Iran Retaliation & “Know Your Value” with Mika Brzezinski 3/18/26

18 Mar 2026 · 27 min · 11 chapters

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In short

The episode covers two main topics: (1) Iran’s retaliation in the Middle East and its ripple effects on oil markets and U.S. policy, and (2) a “Know Your Value” segment on women’s financial fluency.

Guests and backgrounds

Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO/National Director of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), leads ADL’s Never Is Now Summit. Mika Brzezinski, co-founder of Know Your Value and Morning Joe co-anchor, focuses on women’s financial empowerment. Raquel Oden, HSBC U.S. head of international wealth and private banking, works on wealth planning for affluent clients.

Key claims and notable examples

Greenblatt says antisemitism is worse in some ways despite improvements on college campuses; he criticizes anti-Zionism rhetoric and cites Tucker Carlson platforming Holocaust deniers. He responds to Joe Kent’s resignation, arguing Iran posed threats and that blaming Jews/Jewish state is antisemitic. The geopolitical portion notes Iran’s drone/rocket attacks after Ali Larajani’s killing, claims of 100+ targets hit in Israel, and Iraq resuming crude flows via the KC pipeline (about 250,000 bpd), described as limited relief. The finance segment cites HSBC/Ipsos data: by 2030 women may control 40%+ of global wealth, but only 29% of affluent women feel prepared; it argues to move from “financial literacy” to “financial fluency” with life-stage-specific advice (20s vs 30s/40s/50s) and emphasizes caregiving, longevity, and philanthropy.

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Iran's Retaliation in the Middle East

0:00 to 0:24

Analysis of Iran's military response following recent airstrikes.

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Iran's Retaliation in the Middle East

0:33 to 0:53

Analysis of Iran's military response following recent airstrikes.

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Iran's Retaliation in the Middle East

2:23 to 4:49

Analysis of Iran's military response following recent airstrikes.

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Gulf States' Shift in Strategy

4:49 to 6:38

Discussion on the changing dynamics of Gulf states towards Iran.

“So the markets seem to be cooling on that news for now, particularly the news flow out of Iraq.”

U.S. Military and Diplomatic Strategy

6:38 to 8:30

Exploration of U.S. position and potential military strategies in the region.

“As you say, the UAE and Saudi Arabia had attempted to work with the previous Iranian regime.”

AI Developments with Jensen Wang

8:30 to 12:12

Insights on AI advancements from NVIDIA's CEO and implications for the industry.

“diplomatic off-ramp to this conflict, which is now extended into its third week with no real end in Okay.”

Anti-Semitism and Current Events

13:02 to 14:00

Exploration of anti-Semitic incidents and their connection to current geopolitical events.

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Discussion on Anti-Semitism and U.S.-Iran Relations

14:00 to 22:33

Understanding the complexities of anti-Semitism in the context of the U.S.-Iran conflict.

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Mika Brzezinski on Financial Fluency for Women

22:40 to 26:40

Exploring the importance of financial fluency among women and the challenges they face.

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The Financial Glow-Up: Bridging the Confidence Gap

26:40 to 28:00

Discussing the concept of a 'financial glow-up' and its significance for women.

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The Importance of Financial Awareness

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Learn about the significance of financial literacy and its impact on caregiving and community involvement.

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0:00Dan Murphy:Your data lives everywhere. On-prem, in the cloud, across apps. Bring it all together with EverPure, the platform that acts like a living system, delivering the latest in data performance, security, and innovation without ever slowing you down. Sophisticated enough to anticipate your ever-changing data needs, yet simple enough to feel like second nature. Tame your data chaos with EverPure and make storage and data management the simplest part of your business. Visit everpuredata.com to learn more. This episode is brought to you by Schwab Market Update, an original podcast from Charles Schwab. Join host Keith Lansford for this information-packed daily market preview delivered in 10 minutes or less, including projected stock updates, monetary policy decisions, and key results and statistics that may impact your trading.

0:47Download the latest episode and subscribe at schwab.com slash marketupdatepodcast or find Schwab Market Update wherever you get your podcasts. Bring in show music, please.

1:25in U.S. and Israeli airstrikes this week.

1:29Dan Murphy:And in a turbulent world, we'll take a look at antisemitism in the United States. CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, Jonathan Greenblatt, on the progress made and the work still to do. On college campuses, it's better. We've seen no encampments in the last year. We've seen less, you know, violative acts of antisemitism in the last year. And yet in other ways, we know that it's worse. I mean, you talked about Tucker Carlson a minute ago. Plus, know your value. Women and Wealth Fluency, MS Now's Mika Brzezinski. Even at this stage, I've been working on these issues specifically, and I need a glow up.

2:05And HSBC's Raquel Oden, news you can use. What we want in our 20s looks very different in our 30s versus our 40s and our 50s. So what this really comes down to is the ability to have customized advice specific to our life stages.

2:19Dan Murphy:It is Wednesday, March 18, 2026. Squawk Pod begins right now. Stand Becky by in three, two, one. Cue it, please. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Squawk Box right here on CNBC. We are live from the Nasdaq market site in Times Square. I'm Becky Quick along with Andrew Ross Sorkin. Joe is out today. Meantime, Iran retaliating in the Middle East. This after killing one of its top security officials after Israel did that. I want to get over to CNBC's Dan Murphy in Dubai. Good morning. Andrew, good morning to you. Well, another volatile morning here in Dubai. We were hearing the thought of interceptions over the downtown district earlier this morning as the UAE's missile defense systems continue to engage a wave of Iranian drones and rockets.

3:09Tehran clearly making good on its promise to strike back following the elimination of Ali Larajani, a top Iranian security official who was killed in U.S. and Israeli airstrikes this week. But it's not just the UAE. We're also seeing Iran's state media claim Iran has also hit more than 100 targets inside Israel, fired drones at the American embassy in Baghdad and targeted an Australian airbase here in the Gulf too. And what's interesting is that despite the uptick that we're seeing in these attacks, we are seeing a rare bit of supply side relief for the oil markets today. And that's because Iraq has officially resumed crude flows through what's called the KC pipeline.

3:52This is a 600-mile pipeline that can deliver Iraqi crude to the Med. It's the first time we've seen oil moving through this line in years. But we're talking about 250 ,000 barrels a day here. And in the context of the 20 million barrels currently trapped behind the blockade in the Strait of Hormuz, it really is a drop in the ocean. So to add some context to what we're seeing in the oil markets right now, perhaps this is a psychological win for the market, but it certainly doesn't solve the block in the Strait of Hormuz. We've also heard from the AdNor Group CEO, Dr. Sultan al-Jabba, one of the most respected voices in the global energy market, weighing in on that today.

4:32He told the Wall Street Journal that Iran's move to take Hormuz hostage constitutes what he called global economic warfare. You heard right, global economic warfare. He also said any day after settlement must address Iran's nuclear program, ballistic missile capabilities, and network of regional proxies. So for ADNOK and the UAE, which has, of course, had to shut down operations and bear the brunt of Iran's attacks on civilian and energy infrastructure, the status quo with Iran and the Strait of Hormuz is now officially untenable. So the markets seem to be cooling on that news for now, particularly the news flow out of Iraq.

5:14But with economic warfare being the phrase of the day here in Dubai, the risk premium probably isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Andrew? So Dan, though, the thing I want to ask about that quote, and I think it comes from a story that has this headline, Gulf states want the U.S. to cripple Iran's regime before ending the war. And the subheadline there is, in pivot for regions that had accorded Tehran, Gulf leaders now insist that Iran must be rendered incapable of future attacks. How much of that is a pivot, even in the last two or three days from what you'd be hearing on the ground? Andrew, we were talking about this yesterday, and you're exactly right.

5:53It is a significant pivot. The economic impact of this war on the Gulf states, and in particular on the UAE, will be significant. And as a result, leaders here see the status quo when it comes to Iran effectively having to change. As you heard there, Dr. Sultan al-Jaba saying that Iran's control over the Strait of Hormuz will have to change into the future. And their entire defensive posture will have to change as well. Of course, the UAE has proven resilient in the face of these Iranian missile and drone attacks. But of course, it has also demonstrated an ability to defend itself. And as a result, we'll have to continue to do so in the future if the Iranian regime and its capabilities aren't dismantled.

6:37So part of what we're seeing right now is quite a significant tone shift for this region. As you say, the UAE and Saudi Arabia had attempted to work with the previous Iranian regime. And of course, with the whereabouts of the current Iranian leader still unknown and his well-being also having a big question mark against it, The Gulf states don't really know what to expect when it comes to what could happen next. And of course, now questioning whether or not they can actually work with any leadership inside the Iranian regime moving forward as well.

7:07Dan Murphy:That's a huge miscalculation on the part of the Iranian. I don't know what leadership is there at this point, but that's a huge miscalculation, thinking that they could force the Arab states into putting pressure on both the United States and Israel by attacking them. and then to see maybe this development as a result where they say we can't live with them as neighbors. Exactly, Becky. And it's also interesting to see in terms of what could happen next here when it comes to the control of the Strait of Hormuz. We've also been talking about this through the course of the week. It seems as if the president's tone has also changed here.

7:43Remember, he was attempting to build a coalition to try and build national support, a naval support group, to get those ships moving again through the strait. It seems as if the president has turned more America first on this and said essentially that help is no longer required. Of course, who will ultimately end up securing the safe passage of those ships remains to be seen at this point. And whether or not the Gulf states will actually step in to contribute is unclear as well. We've also heard from top UAE officials suggesting that they could provide some assistance here, perhaps also signaling that this region may play a greater role when it comes to the safety and security and the responsibility of that strait moving forward.

8:27But of course, no firm commitments have been made yet. For now, the immediate focus is on attempting to find some kind of military or diplomatic off-ramp to this conflict, which is now extended into its third week with no real end in Okay. Dan, I want to thank you for your smart analysis and everything that you're bringing us from the ground.

8:48Dan Murphy:Jensen Wong teasing a potentially transformative step in the evolution of AI. The NVIDIA CEO talking up OpenClaw. That's an open source AI agent that taps into large language models to perform daily tasks. Here's Wong on Mad Money last night. It was open sourced just recently, a few weeks ago. It is now the largest, most popular, the most successful open source project in the history of humanity. Well, this is like ChatGPT when you told me in November it would be big and then it turned out to be in January. This could be the next thing. This is definitely the next ChatGPT. As you can hear, that was Jensen Wang speaking with Jim Cramer.

9:30Dan Murphy:OpenClaw has seen growing adoption in China where many local tech companies are integrating the technology into their offerings. and we're watching a lot on what's been happening with this. You know, another big thing that he said yesterday, that Jensen Wong said yesterday, was that China has been looking for some increased shipments of that H200 chip, and they are looking to restart production of some of those chips as a result. They'd been telling the street, basically, look at that as a zero, right? China down to zero. So if that starts up, that could show you a little bit, too. Stock's up by about 1%, but you can see over the last year up by close to 60%.

10:06So the big question to me about, by the way, OpenClaw is, you know, the leader, the guy who created OpenClaw has basically been acqui-hired by OpenAI. And so that whole him and whatever his team is.

10:21Dan Murphy:Yeah, I like that, acqui-hired. It's acquired, right? And so the question is whether what OpenClaw is, which is an open source system, becomes a closed source. Whether OpenAI creates something that looks very much like it or Clawed creates something that looks very much like it. But it lives in a closed universe in some way that we haven't figured out yet. And that'll be very interesting just in terms of what happens. That's a really good word. Aquahired. Aqua Hired, that's the phrase for what they've... By the way, that's what, you know, when you think about the acquisition that Meta had of scale AI, that was an Aqua Hired.

10:59Buying the talent. Cheese will be next.

11:04Dan Murphy:Next on Squawk Pod, a conversation about anti-Semitism and geopolitics. CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, Jonathan Greenblatt, responds to yesterday's resignation of Joe Kent, former director of the National Counterterrorism Center, and what it means. His letter, in your mind, a protest of the war and what Israel as a country politically is doing? Yeah. Or do you look at that and say, he's an anti-Semite and he doesn't like Jews? You can say, I oppose this war on some grounds, but to blame Jews or the Jewish state for the war?

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12:59Dan Murphy:This is Squawk Pod. Up on Becky. You are watching Squawk Box right here on CNBC. I'm Becky Quick along with Andrew Ross-Sorkin. Joe is out today. Our next guest here to weigh in on the global battle against rising anti-Semitism. Joining us right now is Jonathan Greenblatt. He is Anti-Defamation League CEO and National Director of the ADL. Just wrapping up its annual Never Is Now Summit in New York City and honored business leaders who stand up to hate, including New England Patriots chairman and CEO Robert Kraft and GAP CEO Richard Dixon. Good morning to you. State of anti-Semitism, and then we're going to get into everything that's going on in the Middle East, because I think it's all connected in a certain way.

13:41Yeah. Look, it's a really complicated time. I mean, I think a lot of Jewish Americans, probably like yourself, many of your audience, are wondering if this is the new normal. 20 people were killed last year, Jewish people in anti-Semitic attacks, and of course in Bondi Beach, in Washington, D.C., Boulder, Colorado, Manchester, England, one of the most lethal years in recent memory. And just last week, a terrorist tried to add West Bloomfield to that mix, right? There were over 100 preschool children in that building. And this individual drove an explosives-packed car into the actual synagogue.

14:15I mean, I fielded calls in the last week from parents who were concerned. Can I send my child to school? Can I go to the JCC, or will I be targeted? The idea that Jewish people are wondering, can they sort of live their lives, or will they be threatened here in America in 2026? It's a terrible thing. Help me understand this. we are now in the middle of a war in the Middle East, in Iran specifically. But there is a lot of debate among politicians, among the public here in the U.S., among some very influential voices, by the way, in the Republican Party, including people like Tucker Carlson and others, who have suggested that we have been pulled, the U.S.

14:57has been pulled into this war by Israel. And there is a view among some that that that that unto itself creates these other questions about anti-Semitism and this sort of interconnection between those who have problems with Israel and those who have problems with Jews. So this is a good opportunity to talk about anti-Semitism, right? Some might call it the oldest hatred. Some might call it the oldest conspiracy theory. It's been around for thousands of years, and it's typically involved scapegoating and blaming a small group of people for things that are going wrong. This has been happening for ages and ages.

15:39And one of those age-old tropes is that Jews aren't loyal to the country where they live. Remember, they've lived as a minority in exile for thousands of years. And that not only are they not loyal, they caused the world's wars. Right? Again, this is an age-old trope that the Jews caused World War I, that the Jews caused World War II, and the Jews caused the Gulf War. And now we're seeing people like Tucker Carlson make this claim. Now, look, Tucker Carlson is probably the most prominent public bigot in our lives today. Like, look, he has platformed Holocaust deniers. He's platformed virulent anti-Semites.

16:12He's engaged in this kind of rhetoric for a long time. So it shouldn't be surprised that he goes there. But I think to be honest with you, there's a reasonable debate to have about this war. There's a reasonable debate to have, like, how is it being prosecuted? Do we understand what the objectives are, et cetera? But it's unreasonable to suggest that President Trump is being manipulated by a small group of people. I think one thing we know about President Trump. That's a piece of it, because there's, right, and that's what I'm trying to get at. There's sort of how you thread the needle between having a open debate about what's happening in Iran, what Israel is doing, the relationship between the United States and Israel on that front, and how you think about Jews and how you think about anti-Semitism and how they relate or not to each other.

16:58That, I think, is the hardest part about this. Look, these issues are complicated. They're not always as a clear cut, let's say, as other forms of hate. But, like, take Joe Kent, who resigned yesterday in a very public letter from his position as the head of the National Center for Counterterrorism. ADL opposed his nomination a year ago because of his white supremacist and extremist ties. He'd engaged in anti-Semitic rhetoric long before he was nominated. So when this person publishes a letter saying, I'm resigning because Israel pulled us into the war, Iran didn't pose a threat. And so my question to you is, if you look at that and say that that is an anti - This is the question.

17:34Is his decision in his letter, in your mind, a protest of the war and what Israel as a country politically is doing? Yeah. Or do you look at that and say, he's an anti-Semite and he doesn't like Jews? This is what I think is the fundamental question. Right. Well, look, let's talk about it. So you can say I oppose this war on some grounds. But to blame Jews or the Jewish state for the war? He testified in his confirmation hearing a year ago that the Islamic Republic of Iran and their proxies were threatening American service members. Yesterday, he says, there was no threat at all. What's the difference?

18:14So we know that the Islamic Republic of Iran has murdered more Americans, perhaps, than any other sovereign government over the last 40 years. Killed American service members, diplomats, civilians in Lebanon, in Iraq, in Saudi Arabia, all over the Middle East. So to suddenly say, whoa, whoa, whoa, they didn't pose a threat. They weren't a danger to us. It's just the Jews who made us do this. I mean, come on. President Trump, you can like him or dislike him, but he does exactly what he wants to do. and I appreciate that about him, even if I don't agree with everything that he does. What is the ADL position on this war in Iran right now?

18:49Look, my focus every day is on fighting anti-Semitism and hate. I will tell you, the Islamic Republic of Iran was the largest state sponsor of terror in the world, the largest exporter of anti-Semitism, Holocaust denialism, all of it. Incredibly problematic. On the War Powers Act and how all that goes, really, that's not my issue. I'm sure, though. But it will be good. If that regime is gone, better for the people of Iran, better for the people of the region, better for the world. Okay, so then you would be for it, it sounds like. The reason I ask is there's a split even among Jews around the world and in this country about whether we should continue this war, continue to prosecute the war, continue to prosecute it until there is fundamental regime change, and others who say, we've got to get out of this as quickly as humanly possible.

19:40Look, I want an end to this conflict with the least lives lost as possible at the same time. The Islamic Republic is a totalitarian regime. They murdered 30 ,000 to 40 ,000 of their own citizens less than two months ago, like in the span of a week. The world will be safer if that regime is gone. The world is safer that Khamenei is gone. The world is safer that Larjani is gone, for sure. What do you make of just what's happening in the U.S. in terms of where things stand as it relates to anti-Semitism? Meaning, do you believe that it is getting materially worse, materially better, flat? Well, here's what I know.

20:20What I know is on college campuses, it's better. We've seen no encampments in the last year. We've seen less, you know, violative acts of anti-Semitism in the last year. And yet in other ways, we know that it's worse. I mean, you talked about Tucker Carlson a minute ago. There certainly is a strain of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism in the politics of both the far left and the far right. And that's moving into the mainstream. I mean, he would, I don't want to speak for him, but I've heard him talk about it. Tucker Carlson? He would say that his position is not about anti-Semitism at all. That is what anti-Semites always say.

20:52They say, I don't hate Jews. It's just I'm raising questions about the Jewish people, about Jewish influence, about the Jewish state. He's raising questions about Israel and its influence over the United States. That's what he would say. I mean, look. Again, I don't want to speak for the man. I'm just suggesting to you. He platforms Holocaust deniers on his show. He kind of calls out the integrity of Jewish people repeatedly on his show, the motives of Jewish organizations on his show. He's an anti-Semite through and through, Andrew. And that's why we call him out.

21:21Dan Murphy:Have you ever spoken with him or been on his show either? I've never been on his show. I was invited on a show at Fox a few times. But, like, I'm not going to engage. Like, my view at ADL, my view as CEO of ADL, I'll engage with anyone as long as you don't dehumanize other people. When he dehumanizes Zionists, that's a red line for me. Jonathan Greenblatt, thank you for coming in this morning. Thank you. Nice to see you. Coming up on Squawk Pod, a little segment collab with our sister network, MS Now Morning Joe co-anchor Mika Brzezinski. She's teaming up with HSBC to boost financial fluency among women.

21:54Maybe men are in the exact same position. They just pretend that they're not. That's interesting. I think there's a confidence gap.

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22:33This episode is brought to you by Schwab Market Update, an original podcast from Charles Schwab. Join host Keith Lansford for this information-packed daily market preview delivered in 10 minutes or less, including projected stock updates, monetary policy decisions, and key results and statistics that may impact your trading. Download the latest episode and subscribe at schwab.com slash marketupdatepodcast podcast or find Schwab Market Update wherever you get your podcasts. To realize the future America needs, we understand what's needed from us. To face each threat head on, we've earned our place in the fight for our nation's future.

23:14We are Marines. We were made for this.

23:20Dan Murphy:You're listening to Squawk Pod from CNBC. Welcome back to Squawk Box. By 2030, women are expected to control more than 40 % of global wealth, but only 29 % of affluent women say they feel prepared to meet their financial goals. These stats coming from a new HSBC study conducted in partnership with Ipsos and Know Your Value, the report highlighting what's called a growing financial fluency gap. And joining us right now is Mika Brzezinski, MSNOW Morning Joe co-host and Know Your Value founder, and Raquel Oden, who's HSBC's U.S. head of international wealth and private banking. Before we even get into it, how did this partnership thing even start?

24:00Oh, my gosh. Well, on exactly these issues, because I've been fighting for decades now for equal pay for women. But it's one thing to work toward getting the money. We have gotten there to a certain extent, but still there's so much more work to do. But for women who have arrived, and what I learned, creating the 50 over 50 list for the past five years, Women have arrived. They're in their 60s, 70s, 80s, reaching their highest financial power. And yet they can speak the language of money. But as Raquel found with our research, it's another thing to be fluent on how to use it and how those things apply to our lives.

24:36So what does that mean, though, in terms of making the what what has to change in terms of the fluency? Becky Quick is very fluent. Yes, Becky is absolutely fluent. I think what we've said is historically, we've always talked about women and financial literacy for so long. So what we're referring to is literacy is about knowledge. That's how you build confidence. But fluency really says, what do I do with it? How do I do it? And it allows me to be very specific to my life stages. So we're moving from literacy to fluency. And fluency, to me, feels so empowering. Because when we talk about the transfer of wealth that's going to happen for women, we want to confidently make sure they are prepared, right?

25:11They're going to control 45 % of global wealth by 2030.

25:14Dan Murphy:I will admit I feel very literate. I'm not sure that I'm completely fluent because I don't know what to do at the next stage. And part of that is because I'm not talking to anybody about it. I've always managed all my own stuff. I don't know what to do to tell my mom to do as she faces retirement. I don't know what to do in terms of thinking about kids longer term, how we deal with some of those things. Well, you are the perfect. And I don't really trust the whole lot of people. That's it. That is it. That's exactly what it is. And really what we're saying to our advisors and when we provide guidance for women, allow us to understand how your specific guidance needs to be for us.

25:50We're concerned about our children. We're concerned about caregiving. We are concerned about longevity. We are concerned about check, check, check, check. Those are all the issues. And we change by the decades quite a bit. So what we want in our 20s looks very different in our 30s versus our 40s and our 50s. So what this really comes down to is the ability to have customized advice specific to our life stages, allowing us to feel comfortable that we can plan for all of our needs, which does not just include us. And philanthropy, another huge component for women, and scores quite high versus men.

26:22Yeah. Can I ask one question about the men in all of this? Sure. It seems to me, as I'm looking at this, that maybe men may answer some of these questions more confidently. But as I was looking at this, I was thinking to myself, maybe men are in the exact same position. They just pretend that they're not. That's interesting. I think there's a confidence gap. And also our lives are completely different than men in terms of how we need to manage our money and plan for our future. And once again, this research shows what I've been confirming throughout the 20 years of working with women in the Know Your Value community.

27:00and that is that we actually handle the money for our parents, for our children. We do all this work for other people. My wife is the boss in our house of all the money. But we're not fierce when it comes to actual planning for ourselves, and we don't feel fluent on that level. Is that fair to say, Ray? Right. So that's why you take a look at the report. So we go from financial literacy to financial fluency, and what we're ultimately calling this is the financial glow-up, right? Because I think at the end of this, we want to make sure that women understand And while we are going to control a lot of the global wealth going forward, we should have the confidence, but importantly, be able to share very specifically what we do with this incredible opportunity.

27:40So if we give differently than men, then we need to address that in the plan that they provide us. There's really no difference between men and women in the standpoint of one is right or wrong. It's about being specific to the needs of women that we really want people to focus on.

27:52Dan Murphy:And maybe not just by the needs, but by the desires, right? My big things are, yes, making sure the kids are going to be okay, making sure my parents are going to be okay. Caregiving, your children. Those weigh pretty heavily. Not that they don't on my husband. So in the data point, one of the things you'll actually see, it really talks about in the research, that 33 % of men are concerned about other family members. For women, it's at 43%. So yes, men and women both care about family, but it's even more important to women when we looked at the data that came back from the research. Absolutely.

28:22So what has to happen next? How can people get all of this? You've got to get a glow up. You've got to get a glow up.

28:27Dan Murphy:Well, actually, Becky, what does it mean to get a glow up? Yeah. What's that going to? So what that means is fluency allows you to get you to the point of the glow up. And the glow up really means if I glow up on my finances, it's just like I want to glow up in the standpoint of having control, understanding what I need to do with my wealth. Importantly, the advice is specific to not only myself, but my ability to plan for other family members and make sure that I'm giving back in my community, which is also a very high statistical aspect. And how much of that is about talking, though, to people like you?

28:57How much of that is about just getting educated online in a new age of AI? It's about talking about money for yourself and going to organizations like HSBC, but not depending on someone to just completely take it over for you, which I think a lot of women are like, I feel suntoward to talk about money for myself. Actually, you need to get really comfortable talking about money for yourself. The fight for equal pay, it's vacant unless you care about making money for yourself, taking care of yourself, and then you can take care of others. And I actually did the glow. I started looking at our research, and I filled out the entire page of notes of questions that I have about exactly what I should be doing.

29:42I realized like we all kind of need, even at this stage, I've been working on these issues specifically, and I need a glow up. So this is your selfish moment. Allow yourself the financial glow up. Focus on your finances for yourself. But importantly, do not compromise on the things that are priorities for women. Okay. Raquel and Mika, thank you. It's nice to see you over here for a change. I like this. Yeah, I like it too. Right across the street. It's very nice. Going to run back now. Good luck. Yeah, hurry. Thanks, hurry. Commercial break time. Exactly.

30:15Dan Murphy:And that is Squawk Pod for today, this Wednesday. Thanks for listening. Squawk Box is hosted by Joe Kernan, Becky Quick, and Andrew Ross Sorkin. Tune in weekday mornings on CNBC at 6 Eastern. To get the smartest takes and analysis from our TV show right into your ears, please follow Squawk Pod wherever you get your podcasts and tell a friend to follow, too. We'll meet you right back here tomorrow. We are clear. Thanks, guys.

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From the publisher

From Dubai, CNBC’s Dan Murphy reports on the latest in the Middle East as Iran retaliates against other states in the region. CEO of the Anti-Defamation League Jonathan Greenblatt discusses the state of antisemitism in the U.S., weighing in on university campus changes and potential bias in anti-Iran War sentiment. Plus, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang is calling OpenClaw “the next ChatGPT,” and MSNow’s Morning Joe co-host Mika Brzezinski and HSBC’s Racquel Oden discuss their Know Your Value venture, highlighting financial fluency among women. 

 

Dan Murphy - 02:45

Jonathan Greenblatt - 13:30

Mika Brzezinski & Racquel Oden - 24:01

 

In this episode:

Jonathan Greenblatt, @JGreenblattADL

Dan Murphy, @dan_murphy

Andrew Ross Sorkin, @andrewrsorkin

Becky Quick, @BeckyQuick

Katie Kramer, @Kramer_Katie


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