In short
Stock Market Today (Sept 11, 25th anniversary of 9/11) discusses “positive reaction to negative news” after hotter-than-expected CPI that boosted Fed funds futures for a hike next week. Indexes rose but closed off highs; breadth/equal-weight weakness suggests the average stock is still falling.
Guests/backgrounds
Hosts Webby and Alyssa (names referenced in transcript). Webby is a technical analyst using chart “checklists,” moving averages, breadth measures, regression channels, ATR, and position-sizing rules. Alyssa asks about Fed/yield-curve dynamics and specific stocks.
Key claims
- Market “priced in” the hike; Nasdaq held gains (~<1%) despite bad CPI.
- Breadth is the “elephant”: RSP equal-weight is weak and still below key moving averages (needs to reclaim 50-day).
- Yield-curve effects can be misleading; focus on simpler index/stock trends rather than overthinking curve inversions.
- Choppy environment until closes and lows stay above the 21-day.
Notable examples (stocks/sectors)
- Apple +1.8% (strength after new products/CEO; RS line flat vs S&P).
- Bloom Energy: up ~9% this week, +20% prior week; high volatility (8% ATR); traders should use wide stops.
- HeartFlow (HTFL): +10% after prior earnings breakout; AI-assisted analysis of hard medical data; support around 21-day; thin trading—careful sizing.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOReflecting on 9/11 and Togetherness
0:00 to 0:24
Discussion on how the nation came together after the attacks and the importance of unity.
“Planning for retirement and all the things that go with it can be stressful.”
Reflecting on 9/11 and Togetherness
1:07 to 2:58
Discussion on how the nation came together after the attacks and the importance of unity.
“but I think it's very appropriate to do it now.”
Market Overview on September 11th
3:01 to 3:41
Hosts discuss the market's positive reaction despite negative news.
“So wanted to take that moment here right up top.”
Detailed Index Performance Analysis
3:42 to 4:30
In-depth look at the performance of major market indexes.
“And we also want to cover a number of notable stocks, including Apple, Bloom Energy and HeartFlow.”
NASDAQ Trends and Thresholds
4:31 to 7:18
Webby discusses key indicators and thresholds for the NASDAQ index.
“So let's start perhaps with a positive, and let's go to the NASDAQ.”
Market Response to Economic News
7:19 to 9:57
Exploration of market reactions to economic data and potential Fed rate hikes.
“Yeah, so when you look at that, yeah, perfect.”
Market Breadth and Trends
9:58 to 12:20
Analysis of market breadth and trends affecting stock performance.
“We have to wait and see how he phrases things next week.”
Interest Rate Dynamics and Market Reactions
12:21 to 14:00
Discussion on the relationship between interest rates and market reactions.
“First, it's got to get above the 50 day, which is your red line there.”
Interest Rates and Market Reactions
14:00 to 17:45
Discussion on how rate hikes could impact yields and the overall market.
“And maybe it's also murky for me because that's when I was on maternity leave.”
Market Trends and Analysis
17:45 to 19:45
Analyzing current market trends and the overarching bull market despite volatility.
“it was pretty much pointing to like an 80 % chance.”
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Sector Performance Overview
19:45 to 23:40
Reviewing sector performances, particularly software and biotech.
“We've talked about, you know, sort of this week's action for the major indexes.”
Focus on Apple and Its Market Position
23:40 to 28:00
Examining Apple's recent performance and its potential as a stable investment.
“So some of the areas that we are watching, just an update on that.”
Analyzing Conservative Strategies
28:00 to 28:31
Discussion about the cautious approach of certain companies and its implications.
“Yeah, they are just really conservative with stuff like that.”
Bloom Energy's Recent Performance
28:31 to 29:36
Overview of Bloom Energy's stock performance and its implications for traders.
“a different flavor, different speed, going from Apple's 21-day ATR of 2.2%, quite mild there.”
Understanding Volatility in AI Stocks
29:36 to 31:06
Exploration of the volatility in AI stocks and how to navigate it.
“Yeah, unlike what happened with the DRAM space of the SanDisk and the Microns and all of that, that you would have thought that if this was moving, that that was going to move as well.”
Key Trading Strategies for Volatile Stocks
31:06 to 33:35
Strategies and considerations for trading in volatile market conditions.
“with valuations, but we do concern ourselves with where the stock is going.”
Evaluating Stock Performance Across the Market
33:35 to 34:29
Discussion on the evaluation of stock performance within the broader market context.
“notable standout stories in the AI space.”
The Importance of Quality Stocks in AI
34:29 to 36:13
Highlighting notable AI stocks and their fundamentals and performance.
“Well, 3.5 when the market's up 1 % and heat like the BE and those things are going up.”
Diving into Heartflow's Market Potential
36:13 to 37:36
An analysis of Heartflow's stock performance post-earnings breakout.
“And then you get a move like today up 10%.”
Trading Strategies for Growth Stocks
37:36 to 41:22
Insightful tactics for trading growth stocks in a dynamic market.
“It's going to be about the end use, who's actually able to take the AI and make money off of it.”
Importance of Sales in Earnings
42:02 to 42:27
Discussion on the focus shift from earnings to sales in market evaluations.
“are still just about the earnings there's nothing wrong with that and then more of the newer folks are looking at the sales aspect of it as being just as important if in some cases not more important than the earnings.”
Market Analysis: Weekly Charts
42:31 to 45:05
In-depth examination of weekly market charts and candle patterns.
“Well, let's now turn our attention to your chart so we can put together the mosaic of the market.”
Regression Analysis Insights
45:05 to 49:41
Discussion on regression analysis and its implications for market trends.
“And so the way I like to look at it is when you come down to the green solid line, it wants to bounce and move back to home base if it's indeed a trend.”
Critical Levels and Market Indicators
49:41 to 56:00
Exploration of crucial market levels and the significance of moving averages.
“And we're at least in the Northern hemisphere, but we want to get up above that green line.”
Market Analysis: Indicators and Trends
56:00 to 1:03:25
Learn about market indicators and the current stock trends affecting investments.
“And I think the important thing that you said, the most important thing that you said was something about it, just not respecting it.”
Trading Strategies in Uncertain Markets
1:03:25 to 1:10:02
Explore trading strategies amidst market uncertainties, focusing on energy stocks and their risks.
“So I'm not opposed to trading oil related stocks at all, but I'm not a huge fan of them when you've got this news environment this way that that can throw you off at any point where you can't see that in the chart.”
Upcoming Events and Community Interaction
1:10:02 to 1:13:04
Learn about the Founders Club event in Vegas and the benefits of joining this exclusive community.
“I definitely will enjoy a couple weeks without me because I will be doing some some traveling and stuff.”
Concert Plans and Personal Interests
1:13:04 to 1:14:10
Discover the hosts' excitement about upcoming concerts and the artists they'll see.
“Yeah, that wouldn't have been the— But I will say along the lines, the speaking and, you know, all the presentations are always A plus because everyone brings their A game or their A plus game.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Mike Webster:Planning for retirement and all the things that go with it can be stressful. That's why Fisher Investments partners with you to understand your unique goals and needs so that they can build a tailored plan that helps you achieve a comfortable retirement. Whether you need help with financial planning, estate planning, tax optimization, or social security, Fisher has specialists to help. Fisher Investments. Now that's clearly different wealth management. Learn more at fisherinvestments.com. Investing in securities involves the risk of loss.
0:40Mike Webster:Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Stock Market Today on Friday, September 11th. We have heavy hearts today on this 25th anniversary of the 9-11 September attacks on New York City and elsewhere in the U.S. So our hearts, once again, go out to all the families. And Webby, a quick word from you before we launch into all this stock talk. Yeah, I didn't know we were going to do that now, but I think it's very appropriate to do it now. Look, September 11th, I remember it like it was yesterday, like all of us, you know, who lived through it. Those of you who weren't born yet, you had the benefit of not having to live through that.
1:20It was a very scary time. But I will say this morning we talked about kind of the somber part of it. But the great part of it was afterwards. America really came together. If you remember, like everyone had flags on their cars and we were all, it didn't matter if you were from the right or the left or in between or anywhere on the spectrum of political stuff. We all came together, all races and nationalities, and everyone came together against some bad folks that did really bad things and had horrible consequences. And hopefully we can get back to something like that without having a terrible event, because we all have more in common than we have differences.
2:04And I think we can all find that together. And it's a day to remember. We talked about it on the show this morning about how we were both got to go up to the World Trade Center probably around the same time, plus or minus a month. It was my first time to New York City. And on June of 2000, I went with a couple other PMs for a bill workshop that he was doing there and got to go down to the floor, but also got to go up there. And New Yorkers are just super special people. My better half worked in the World Trade Center center, you know, not the two tall buildings, but the other stuff. And she moved out here just shortly before the attacks.
2:43And like everybody on the East Coast knows people that were, that didn't make it and all of that. And it's just sad day for our country. But to remember, we can all get back together and be positive again.
2:57Mike Webster:Yeah, that's a great note to pivot on. And I just know that this is such a notable day in history. So wanted to take that moment here right up top. But looking at today's market, Webby, we did get a bounce on some negative news. So a positive reaction to negative news, helping investors shape what they could be seeing in terms of interest rates in not too long from now with the Fed. So we'll dig in more into that. But I think also this week marked a notable deterioration in some of the key indexes that we look at. So a lot to get through. We will cover all of that. We'll go to Webby's charts. And we also want to cover a number of notable stocks, including Apple, Bloom Energy and HeartFlow.
3:51Mike Webster:So we'll get to that. But first, a closer look at the major indexes and today's action in particular. We did have gains across the board, but we closed off highs. The Nasdaq up a little less than 1%. Meanwhile, the S &P 500 was up some nine-tenths of a percent. The Dow was up 1 % on the day. The Russell also bouncing, but from a weaker position and with a weak close here. up less than a half percent on the day. RSP, with the weakening picture here, did bounce today, up eight-tenths of a percent. But like I said, a notable deterioration there in the S &P 500 equal weight. So let's start perhaps with a positive, and let's go to the NASDAQ.
4:45Mike Webster:Webby, Give me your thoughts on how today's action potentially changes the chart or what outstanding questions or levels do we have to conquer? Well, that's the right question. And there's when in doubt, you always go back to your indicators and things that you really trust and understand. So again, we'll just go to our checklist. Where are we in the checklist? You've got to get your close above the 21 day. You've got to get your low above the 21 day. Those have been happening easier. But the hard part is to get three consecutive days with your low above the 21 day and closing up. And that's really what I'm looking for.
5:35Yes, we can have three days up and then they pull the rug out. But it's just it's harder to get those three days. And if you want added conviction, you could incrementally do it and then say you also want five days as well. That was something we did with market school. I think on balance, three is much better than five because by the time you get five, sometimes you're getting a little too stretched from there. So that's what I would like is kind of a time trend because we are able to get above this keep moving average. But then in a blink of an eye, we go back below it. And so I think that's where, you know, just putting a little bit more weight on the three-day portion that we normally do.
6:17So if we've been under it for a long time and then we're poking through, that's where you want to act like heavy on the clothes, just the clothes above it. Because then your expectation is for the others to come. But now that we've been given this expectation of gets above it, gets a day, you know, the low above it, and then the rug gets pulled or sometimes even three days or more, and then the rug gets pulled, you got to realize it's a choppy environment until it's not. So I like the line that you drew there because it's very close, that downside reversal with the second downside reversal, the more recent one, and really getting above those levels on a closing basis is what you want.
7:00especially because both of them went up there and then got turned away in a big way by the close. We don't want to see that happen. And I'm not a fan of the close that we had today on any of the indexes, but it's actually better than what the chart looks like. Can you just zoom in really a whole lot for a second? Yeah, so when you look at that, yeah, perfect. That's your real bar on there. if we drew in the gap, that would look a lot better. So your true range of your closing range is a lot higher than the where closed within the bar. That is meaningful, but still the look of it just doesn't look that powerful when you close that low in there.
7:46And let's go to spy with the same zoom in because it looked even worse over there from memory. Yeah, and then go to RSP. Uh-huh. and then iwm and just all focusing in on that that so then iwm looks the the worst of the bunch right so we can go back to the nasdaq so all of them had this close going into a weekend that was weak but as you said at the beginning we we had this positive reaction to the news that should have been a negative like because the way you want to think of it is the stock market should go down on bad news and should go up on good news and then when that happens that's just normal and natural but we had bad news this morning with a hotter than expected cpi it wasn't like crazy but it was hot enough for the fed funds futures market to basically price in a hype next week which is i think a good thing it's just like rip that band-aid off like let's just start getting the hikes you know over with and then the market can digest it and that's what it was doing today today basically my interpretation i read that it said okay he's got no choice if he wants credibility but to hike next week or the whole group to hike next week and then it was able to price it in and we actually lifted and at least held those gains up around a percent on the nasdaq because you know it's not two percent not three percent but again it was negative news so that news you could have looked at it been down two two and a half percent would have been normal even a little bit more than that if the market wanted to react in a way of i mean let's just face it when when the fed is increasing rates.
9:42It's trying to slow down the economy. Well, what is the stock market? It's just the economy just priced in every day of all the different companies in there. So it should have gone down and should have probably gone down in a material way. But I think this was proof that it was starting to get priced in. We have to wait and see how he phrases things next week. My guess would be he's going to be very, he's going to leave himself wide open and not doing any cuts the rest of the year. But I think the market is going to assume that he's going to do one more in there. And I just don't think he wants to do four.
10:15Say again? Hike or cut? Hike. Did I say cut? Well, then I was just playing wrong.
10:22Mike Webster:You're testing me. No, I've been misspeaking all day, Becky. Isn't that your name? What is it? Oh, it's right there in front of me. Alyssa. Okay. I've been calling you Ally all this time. We called you by the wrong name. But look, we have to make it through next week. This was encouraging. But when you see the RSP, let's go to the RSP and you can do the normal Zoom level on this. You can't be pointing to something as a good thing when it's working out. And then when it turns bad, ignore it. So this is the elephant in the room. This is how I like to look at breath. Everyone's got their way. Every technician has their way of advanced decline lines, new highs, new lows.
11:08All those things have a place if you understand how to interpret them. I think the easier way to do it is to find a good equal weight. You know, this isn't perfect, but it's of the S &P 500. There's also the EQAL. That's not perfect. There's, you know, there's the QQQE. You kind of look at all of them to get a sense for what is your average stock doing. And so this is how I like to look at breadth. and they all look bad. And so that's telling you your average stock is falling down. But at the same time, you've got to look at SPY. So let's pull up SPY for a second. So SPY is up there, found support at the 50-day and was up on the day, 0.8 % or so.
11:55And yet you have this RSP in this really weak position. go back to the RSP, focus your eyes on the high versus the moving averages. So when your high gets stuck underneath the 21 day for several days, that's a really, really bad sign. It's telling you that that trend has changed and it's going down. This one day blip up today does not change that. It will change it when we get back above that. First, it's got to get above the 50 day, which is your red line there. So it's got a lot of work to do. On the positive side of things, it's only 3.83 % off of its highs, all-time highs. But you want to look at the context of it.
12:36It's a slow-moving instrument. So 3.83 on this is a lot more than 3.83 on the queues, which could just be one-day move. So when you've got an ATR, average true range, of less than 1 % the way this one does, that 3.83 is substantial or substantial enough to just look at and go, okay, I'm getting, you know, concerned about your average stock. So we want that to continue. But the good part of it, the reality is you can have sustained moves in the market with the average stock not doing well. And we've seen that before, just like what you've pointed out, we've had times where the bond market is working against us, and the market can still push through it.
13:19You'd rather not have to deal with that, but, you know, RSP could come down to 210, and the Qs could, which I have a position in, could keep on moving up. That's not impossible to have happen, and it wouldn't be unprecedented. It's just easier the other way.
13:37Mike Webster:Okay, well, I know, Webby, that you do talk about how if you're trading stocks. Look at the stock market. There is this element of the market's reaction to what's going on with interest rates, whether it's a hike or a cut. But I want to get your thoughts on something that actually Ed mentioned pre-show on IABD Live, and I'm trying to see where I am. I can't remember exactly in the chart. You're in the Carolinas. I know. Where am I? But I think it was last fall, right? And maybe it's also murky for me because that's when I was on maternity leave. But whether it was more recently or in the past, you do have these times where the Fed will cut rates, but you still have an increase in yield.
14:35Mike Webster:So one could argue that we could see a rate hike and yields could fall. So we don't know what we're going to get. But I thought that that was an interesting element to consider there. Yeah, he was probably talking about the long end versus the short end. So they control the short end and then the long end will, you know, the bond folks are the brightest folks. They're just like up there with the folks who short. And I'm not joking. Like they're really, really smart. They look at every last bit of data to figure out where the rates should go. And the whole yield curve thing is something you could spend your lifetime studying and probably still have more to figure out just like with the stock market.
15:15So it does do weird things. Sometimes, you know, you get the one end going up and then the other end coming down and kind of flattening that out. And it's just how the bond market is looking at the future economy and future moves with the Fed. And the good thing about Bill is he, the founder of IBD, he wouldn't get down into that rabbit hole. He would just say, okay, there's lots of moving parts there. What can I do? I can just keep it simple and just look at what the S &P is doing or what the NASDAQ is doing or whatever your favorite instrument is that you're actually trading rather than overthinking it and then just making things too complicated for yourself.
15:59because then you were looking at, oh, okay, well, the Fed fund futures are doing this. The 10-year and the 30-year are doing this and the yield curve. And people, years ago, the yield curve inverted. And everyone was freaking out about it. And I went back and I studied it. And I studied every single time in all of history that it inverted to see what the market actually did from that point. what would happen is people would have very selective memories of the big ones that it moved and it was just noise it ended up being it was a non-event it would it just didn't change it if you look at every single time it happened so after doing that that was whenever that was 15 years ago or something like that and now i'm off on that that time frame probably 10 years ago and it just it creates more ways to get you whipped around.
16:54And this market is doing a good enough job whipping me around to throw that in there. So I tend to ignore it. I think I'm kind of in the minority there, but just following Bill's footsteps as far as that's concerned.
17:08Mike Webster:Yeah, an interesting interplay because I did mark on the chart as a refresher for myself that we had three quarter point rate cuts in 2025, one in September, one in October, and one in December. And you can see, you know, just looking at the 10-year here, what has happened since then? So it'll be really interesting to see what kind of movement we get if we do get a hike next week. And more importantly, what's the stock market's reaction, right? Well, I think we saw it today because last time I saw the Fed Funds Futures, it was pretty much pointing to like an 80 % chance. And the Fed doesn't want to surprise the market unless their intent is to surprise the market.
18:00And I don't think that that's what he wants to do. He's basically getting a pass right now. It's like, hey, there's some folks in D.C. that don't want him to go in the other direction. He also needs to show that he is his own person and they are their own people that aren't going to be influenced. This isn't political, but just saying reality. And now he's getting this opportunity to go ahead and hike without like no harm, no foul. I don't see, I think it would be very illogical. Anything is possible, but I think it would be very illogical for him not to hike. So then it's just around what is, you know, what happens going forward?
18:39Or are they just figuring one more in? That's where the market is right now. The market is thinking two hikes. I didn't say cut this time. I'm getting better, Allie. Or Becky, whatever your name is. We're pricing in two more or two for this year. And the market is still up near highs. I mean, yes, it's been choppy and sloppy and hard as can be to trade actively. but still if you take a step back go to the weekly chart or go to the monthly chart for that matter because sometimes it's just and go ahead and put the auto fit on it look at we're still in this big nice uptrend you know when you really step back from it so if things were that terrible now we're not trading monthlies we're trading dailies and inner days and weeklies but still you it's sometimes it's important to kind of step back and say like we're in a major bull market at one of the biggest of all of history, it's just not always easy when you get into the nitty gritty of the day by day.
19:45Mike Webster:Absolutely. Well, a fun discussion there. And let's continue forward, Webby. We've talked about, you know, sort of this week's action for the major indexes. Any particular sectors of note? I know that this isn't a standout on the upside, but just notable in terms of what we're watching with some of the growthy areas within software, cybersecurity, right? Not seeing a whole lot of action here, not participating today, right, in the upside move. I was disappointed because yesterday I was looking at this one and CIBR, you can stick on this one, they look the same. And it's got this ascending base type of feel to it.
20:35And yesterday when it poked up through its 50 day is really where it should have closed near the highs and then been moving up towards the 120 area today. And that not happening is discouraging, frankly, because that is a place where we could have gotten, you know, tons of, they're all growth names or sale from a sales standpoint, their growth. And that not working out, that was a little disappointing. Let's go to DRAM, something that I had been trading. And I'd been trading all of those. I got heavy into it as I was moving through the 50-day there on the Sandus and the Microns and the SKHY and this one.
21:19And I had to back out of all of them because it just wasn't doing – let's go to Micron. I think that would be a good one to look at. Maybe Sandus might – yeah, this is fine. So when you went above that marked high there, you should have just kept going because that's a place where people get squeezed on the short side. And you better believe there are a lot of shorts in this. I'm not saying they're going to end up being right, but you would have wanted more follow on. And then the fact of seeing this on a day when the market was lifting, not participating. is again so now you've got the the um this group not participating and then you also have the software not participating and and there were a lot of other groups that really weren't um as i was going through things that uh it just yeah the igv another way of of looking at it there's a few in there that look that look good but it is is very few and this was just two weeks it should have bounced off of the 21 day or when it bounced off the 21 day, it should have stayed up above the 21 day, but now it's living in this weak area.
22:31So if you just picture a 50 % retracement from the low around a hundred of that upside reversal up to the peak at 110, we're clearly living in the Southern hemisphere. So we want to stay, you know, 105 and above essentially, and that's not where we're at so it is um that that is discouraging just got to call it the way i see it exactly
22:56Mike Webster:another area that we've been watching that pulled back this week the biotech space yeah that's a mixed bag in there just because there's so many stocks in there but overall look having this look look how good it looked when it was breaking out of that that little flat base or v-shaped cup without handle. And then it poked back up again. It was looking great. There was some negative news on that one bad day, but then it just tried to lift and couldn't get going. So that's where the, you know, that's where the heat is, is, you know, software, you know, chips, you know, and bearing chips and the medicals in the biospace.
23:38So that's not a good look. Yeah.
23:41Mike Webster:Okay. So some of the areas that we are watching, just an update on that. All right. Now let's talk about a couple of individual names of interest, starting with Apple outperforming on the day up 1.8%, clearing an entry or an add-on point even for those who added in Thursday's session. On Thursday, it was IBD's stock of the day. That morning when we were doing our screening, seeing that that stock was an outperformer on a down day, I thought that was notable around its moving averages. So definitely got it on our radar there. Is this the best looking chart out there? No, of course, it has a lot of flaws or warts on it.
24:33Mike Webster:But I do think that it is showing notable strength in the mega cap space well well said and so i'll just add on to that yeah it was viable yesterday and i think it was viable uh today as well i like that it feels like people are going in and hiding and saying okay well they've got this they finally released the their new phones it was a little sticker shock or sticker price shock of some of them like three thousand dollars for a phone, but I think they'll work that out where, you know, the Verizons and the T-Mobiles and the AT &Ts will just subsidize part or all of the phone and build it in that way.
25:14And so that's good. What do you have? You have a new product and you have a new CEO. That's something that, you know, that Bill and IBD has always looked at as just part of the methodology is when you have something new it's a reason for things to change now let's go to the monthly one on on this one and is this something that from this point you're going to make a gazillion dollars no you're not expecting that with this but what you're expecting is to have you know a continuation type of move of what we've had it's a cash cow they're they're very conservative the way they do a lot of the stuff there at apple um and it post steve jobs it was just kind of i think tim was in there just like just don't mess things up and he didn't mess things up but now you've got an opportunity for someone new to come in and take some risks so there's some potential there for a lot of nice upside but what's interesting is yeah and i like how you marked it with the rs line just basically being flat it's been a market stock what does that mean just going along with what the s &p is doing and how do you tell that where well the rs line it's comparison versus the s &p is flat not down but flat so it's just in line with it so why would you want to take during that time frame why would you want to take the extra individual stock risk with this one versus just buying spy you wouldn't but you're you're what you're trying to do is go in when you see some sort of change there whether it's a breakout or just the rs line starting to move up or or new products coming in and some good reaction to it, that's where you want to start jumping on that ship, hoping that it's going to change, but you don't want to let it backtrack a lot.
27:01So with this, if you bought it today, I'd probably use a little bit under today's low as your stop on there. If you bought it yesterday, then I think you could use yesterday's low as your stop. It just depends on what your entry point is. And I think it's a good place to kind of hide until you use it as a source of fun. So if I was buying Apple, most likely I'd kind of be looking at it as like buying an ETF, then I'm buying it, you know, thinking it's going to go up, but I'm not married to it and I'm going to just sell it when something better comes along, if that makes sense.
27:37Mike Webster:Yeah, it's a way to get technology exposure without the same kind of AI exposure that some of the other mega cap techs are because of the way that it has historically, and at least what we know publicly now, has approached its AI investments versus like a meta or a Google or an Amazon. Yeah, they are just really conservative with stuff like that. And that's good and bad, right? It's like they'll likely never blow up. They'll always be around and always be a cash cow, but if they keep on playing it safe like that, they're never going to have another massive move up. But I don't think that's what they're looking for.
28:24So I think they're doing what people expect.
28:27Mike Webster:Okay. Well, shifting gears here and going with something of a little bit of a different flavor, different speed, going from Apple's 21-day ATR of 2.2%, quite mild there. We'll go to Bloom Energy. This has an 8 % ATR, an AI stock, of course, that has been all over the place, but it is showing a notable turn as of late. this one has its own flaws right but worth covering because we do have a lot of audience members who are trading this one so we thought it was a good idea to take another look at this after this week's action i want to talk about the the percent move this week it was up nine percent And that follows on last week's gain of 20%.
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29:23Mike Webster:So it's up 30 % in about two weeks. This is the heat, as you mentioned, AI heat, getting above some short-term levels here, Webby. So is this a good sign for the market? How should traders be handling something like this? Yeah, unlike what happened with the DRAM space of the SanDisk and the Microns and all of that, that you would have thought that if this was moving, that that was going to move as well. So I think it's good that at least this is moving, but it is that little disconnect where not all of them are going. And I do have a position in this. I was buying it as it was making it through its 50-day and varying sizes of it because it's so erratic and so wide and loose.
30:09If Bill were here and he looked at this chart, he would just shoot me like four times for even talking about this because it's so all over the place. What do I mean by that? just look at the spreads from the high to the low each week. And if you were to track price and go through there, it would be nice if we added on like what the percent of the spread was. You would just go, oh my gosh, how, you know, it's 20 % back and forth all the time. What does that tell you? No one knows what to pay for this because when you start getting in these things with extreme valuations, nobody knows what it should really be valued at because if you truly just did, you know, just kind of cash flow analysis is probably like 20 bucks or something like that, but everyone's playing, you know, the, the greater fool theory.
30:57That's what we all do. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm in there doing, doing the same thing. That's where you get these crazy valuations that can get even crazier. And that's why we don't concern ourselves with valuations, but we do concern ourselves with where the stock is going. Let's go to the daily chart because i think it's a little easier to even see the the swings in there going from recently 351 down to 157 and it doesn't even look that bad on the chart like it looks bad but it doesn't look that bad for that big of a move down but if you're trading it what you're doing is looking for key areas so making it through the 50 day one of your go-to trades and i like doing that and that tool is firmly in my toolbox as well.
31:43And so when it was going up there and then making it through a round number like the 250, closing at the high is a reason to add more to it. And last couple days were rough, but when you're up there like that, you do expect a pullback. You could have actually had another day down with an upside reversal today, but you got that added strength. If you're trading this heat, if you were to be buying it on a close or buying it right around here i would not let it go underneath yesterday's low that's still a long way down there so you've got it if you're going to trade it you got to have kind of a wide stop on it you either have a super tight stop and you try like five times in one day until one of them works if that's how you're wired and i'm that way a lot of times or you're looking at this going okay i buy it here my expectation is for it to move up to 300 and beyond.
32:34And then so how much am I willing to give back? And you don't want to give back more than yesterday's low. And so just do your position size accordingly. Our good friend and colleague, Chris Gessel, has this little thing that he, this calculator that I know we've got on the web. I think it's on the IBD Live Frequently Asked Question page. Yeah, it just shows, it walks you through like how to do the position sizing with wider stops and all. And you can just do the math on your own, but that's what I would do with this one. That's how I'm trading it.
33:10Mike Webster:Okay. So yeah, so you are trading this one. So levels to watch there. All right. And I think even though this is a wild stock, you not only have the story, but you have the strong fundamentals too, right? I mean, that accelerating top line growth, general acceleration of earnings. So triple digit growth in the last quarter for both the top and bottom line. So this is one of those notable standout stories in the AI space. So even though we aren't seeing all of the AI trade any longer moving in concert together higher, seeing some of these names starting to improve, I think is a really good sign.
33:55Yeah. When you look at the mosaic of the market and look at, you know the old saying of it's it's not a stock market it's a market of stocks and all of that and just looking at it from the bottom up you want to see more things like this even if you're not trading them you might say you know i'm not going to trade anything with an 8 atr i'm going to only trade things with a 2 or a 3 nothing wrong with that if that's how you'd like to trade but you'd still look at these and just look at the overall health and go okay i want to see ones that look like this let's pull up sandisk because it doesn't look like this and when you see this and go, wow, yeah, it's down 3 % on a, you know, it's a 7.6 ATR.
34:34What are you upset about? Well, 3.5 when the market's up 1 % and heat like the BE and those things are going up. It's just, there's more of a divergence there. So that's putting that in the mosaic of it, of just saying of all the AI stocks. And I think our good friend, Don V, I never say his last name because I always butcher it. I think he's got like - Vandenberg? Yes, I cannot say that. I can't say trend change, the other thing either. I have trouble speaking, Allie. And I think he's got like a list of 100 AI stocks in there. And so that's something I need to throw in, market surge to just play through.
35:15I think Justin told me about that because he always watches his videos and stuff.
35:20Mike Webster:And I think he talked about it on our podcast, our Investing with IBD podcast with Justin a couple weeks ago. Okay, cool. I got to check that out. I did watch one with, who did he have on this? Oh, yeah, I think he had Fahmy. Yeah, Fahmy on. I watched that. That was a really good one. Speaking of BE, let's go back to BE. Yeah. Fahmy, and everyone should watch that IBD podcast from this week. Go to the weekly chart. Fahmy was talking to me about BE, I think, when it was down at like 10 bucks or something. He was all over this story and I think he wrote, well, I don't want to talk for him, but I think he wrote that up really, really nicely.
35:58So there are a lot of good folks out there in the IBD world who might not work directly for us, but are, you know, friends of the show who really know things inside and out. So always be watching Justin's podcast for those folks.
36:14Mike Webster:Oh, yeah, no doubt. Okay, let's round things out for this section with a look at high tight flag land just kidding the htfl which is heart flow and one of the reasons why we want to cover this one is you and i talked about this on the show a couple of weeks ago when it had a powerful breakout on earnings so cue the tape of that uh we don't have it but if you want to go watch you can see what we said on that day but we were saying this was a very powerful earnings breakout, something to put on your radar. And then you get a move like today up 10%. While putting that in context, you had more of a run up after that powerful earnings breakout, then an orderly pullback to some key moving averages and then a bounce.
37:03Mike Webster:So today, either an add on opportunity, if you took advantage of that powerful breakout, or if that breakout put this stock on your radar, today could have been an opportunity to get in to the stock. Yeah, and I was getting in to it today, so I do still have a position in this. And this is the type of setup I like. So we noticed it when it went up there. I looked into the story a little bit. Essentially, they use AI to help with analysis of hard stuff in a nutshell. And, And so that's in a couple of right places, right? It's the use of AI, which is something that people don't really talk about much, but that's going to be probably what everyone's talking about two or three years from now when it's not about the NVIDIAs of the world and the SanDisk and the Microns.
37:53It's going to be about the end use, who's actually able to take the AI and make money off of it. So you're always interested from that standpoint. But the reality is this gave you a couple places in the sideways movement to try it where it shook you out. And it shook me out. I tried it a few times in there. We tried it once on Swing Trader when intraday was doing an upside reversal, but it faded by the end of the day. So it's a little squirrely. But what's nice about this is it came in and found support around the 21 day. It would have scared anybody out yesterday that was short term because it closed so horrible.
38:29and you have one, two, three, four, five, six days down in a row, which is a really weak position. But then as it started firming up this morning and it was moving up, just started buying it, not in a big way, it's on the thin side. So it's where it trades thin. It's not super thin as far as the dollar volume, but it trades thinner than you would think. And so you want to just be careful with position sizing on this. But this is how I like to buy them. You don't always get them out the gate when they're breaking out of their first base, you're looking for a follow-on. Let's go to the weekly for an alternative way of looking at this.
39:10So this was kind of a go-to, again, for the way Bill would look at IPOs. He wasn't a fan of the IPO base in most cases because you didn't see a lot of those until Google, at least that he was looking at. But he would like things that have gone public in the last seven years or certainly in a shorter period of time. So he would think of a stock priced out seven years ago. That's an IPO to him. And if it was a shorter period, like two years or three years or just a year, there was an added benefit. And the thought process there that we both talked about is the institutions are having to build their positions.
39:50They might have had some pre-IPO. These days they do. but then they're just having to build it. And when it's working, they're adding to it. So imagine you were in an institution, you have this at the IPO at 19, it's been dead money for you, just going back and forth. You're up, down on the position. Now it finally goes and you've got your 100 ,000 shares or 200 ,000 shares or whatever. Now you've had a profit, you're more likely to keep adding to that. And then the flip side is the shorts are getting squeezed. So on the weekly, you're just looking for a pullback into the 50-day or you're looking for three weeks tight.
40:28This wasn't three weeks tight, but it was in that spirit of three weeks tight in that the weekly ranges were very tight. The closes weren't tight enough to meet our parameters. But I'm looking at this as a three weeks tight with a shakeout to the upside. But it's a squirrely one, so be careful with it. because if something is up 10 % in a day, I always say it can be down 50 % more than that. So 15 % on Monday is what I have to like put in my mind that I bought it, I held it over the weekend, I'm down 15 % on it on Monday. Anything better than that and I won. Anything worse than that, man, I've got to exaggerate my worst case scenario a little bit more.
41:10But I think that's just how you kind of have to look at things when you trade heat. You know, this has got no earnings yet. So this is another stock. He would have shot me for, Mike, why are you talking about a stock that doesn't have earnings? Why?
41:24Mike Webster:Well, we, more recently at IBD, have been looking at IPOs through more of a sales lens. Yes. Sales plus technicals. And not just IPOs. Yeah. There was a major change that happened. Really, it was like Adobe and a few others. early on they switched and they started going to like software as a service and then company PM started getting comfortable with looking at sales growth and in recurring revenue is like the golden thing the way earnings used to be the golden thing so now you've got old schoolers who are still just about the earnings there's nothing wrong with that and then more of the newer folks are looking at the sales aspect of it as being just as important if in some cases not more important than the earnings.
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42:23Mike Webster:support your firm needs, the difference is so obvious. It's Schwabvious. Follow the clues at schwabvious.com. Well said. All right, Webby. Well, let's now turn our attention to your chart so we can put together the mosaic of the market. Okay. Can you see this? Yep. We've got the weekly, spy weekly. Okay, so this is our, the part where we take a step back and we look at a weekly candle and we're going to look at a bunch of charts and then kind of let it paint a picture for us. So what do we notice here with this, this candle? Well, the first thing is it's a negative body. So you close lower than you open for the week.
43:03But the next thing you do is you look at this bottom wick there's hardly any top wick which is a very good thing and a very long bottom wick which is a which is also a very good thing and on top of that it shook out below the lows of all the prior weeks in there the last three weeks so that is a good thing cleaning out people and then closing well off of there but it's a mixed bag because whenever you have a pink uh body your your assumption is sideways or down. So I would say more sideways because if you have that really nice wick in there, that bottom part that where it traced down there. So that's what I would be looking at.
43:45This is sideways for next week. And let's take a look at the NASDAQ. And not as good here from the standpoint of it didn't shake out below the lows of your prior weeks. It just kind of came down right with last week's, give or take, in there and still have that negative body. So through this lens, you're looking at sideways to maybe slightly down. Let's look at the next chart and see what that tells us. So we just look at these in isolation. So now we have, I think, 32 days. So typically I don't do regression analysis or take it seriously until you're at least 35 days or more, but you're getting close to it and then we'll stop it at 50 days.
44:35What do I mean by stop? Let's just kind of blow this up here. We're starting this regression here and right now we're ending it here at 32 days. Once we get out to 50 days, assuming we're still in somewhat of a trend, we will lock those points in. And we're just doing this regression analysis, if you remember, to your stats class. It's just a line of best fit. It's this line, this white line just goes through this data and it slices it exactly right to be in the middle. And then we just put these standard deviations around it to get a sense for things. And so the way I like to look at it is when you come down to the green solid line, it wants to bounce and move back to home base if it's indeed a trend.
45:19And that's what it appears that it's trying to do right now is going back up here. If this was a longer, if we had more time in here, I'd be taking it more seriously. If we had already had 50 days and we were in this position, I would say it's a strong, it should absolutely go to here and beyond up to here in short order because it's this mean reversion trade that tends to happen. So through this lens, you're looking at it going, yeah, you didn't have your 50 days, but that's just random. Mike picked a round number at 50 days. I could have picked 21 days or could pick 100 days or 34 days. But we, you know, so you've got that caveat in there, but it's still, it looks like it's going to go up there.
46:04Now, I just want to show, this is a good example of one that was working for quite some time here, the April 8th, that went out 60 days or 50 days over to here. And when it fell out underneath it, that's when you had to throw it out. Once, you know, three, four, five days where your high is stuck underneath this solid green line, you're saying it's now broken that trend. And look, that's exactly what ended up happening. so let's go to the nasdaq same thing over here started living underneath it over here so you said that trend was gone now we go over our current one and same thing here it's it came down exactly to the one standard deviation bounce through your dash line which is um where you want to kind of gun it and then it moves it looks like it's moving up uh to your um uh line of best fit home base and let's go to the rsp and i think i had some of my standard deviations off on some of those this is the concerning thing and we've talked about this one in the past and this is the thing that bothers me this was such a nice trend rsp the equal weight of spy and this was a beautiful full channel in here and just staying within it came down underneath it a little bit and immediately you can see such a great example of going back to home base the white line that's where it feels comfortable in that trend over here it started living underneath and we were trying to give it time there because it is an art but really by this day on this day here is like okay, the next day we really need to move up.
47:53And instead of moving up, we came down and we also went through the 50 days. So that is dead and gone and problematic really for the market. It just really is what it is.
48:05Mike Webster:Question for you on the regressions, if I may jump in here before we move on to the levels. So I know we've done research on historical power trends and the length that they last. What about regression channels, Webby? That's something that I need to do to get the exact numbers on. I've done a bunch of select ones, the best ones, but really what I want to do is automate this in market search where it automatically draws it for you. And so throughout history, it would make that research a lot easier because right now Now it's very tedious to do. So to do the research the way it should be done on every regression one.
48:51But this was on the medium to longer side of it. And of course, if you were to, instead of 50 days, choose 75 days or something longer, they're going to stay in longer because it's going to be wider. And the shorter you go, the more they're going to break out from it. And I don't know that I'm always going to stick with 50 days. It's just, it was a placeholder. And, you know, I've been using this for a number of years. And at some point I decided to share it with everybody because it was like, okay, I'm still working on this, but I might as well just let the cat out of the bag and let other people use it while I'm still working on it.
49:33So that 50 days is not set in stone. Where you start it isn't set in stone. it could be the bottom day it could be the follow-through day it could be you know like so i go back and forth on that and it just i need more time ali could you give me 26 hours in a day that would be helpful i get two more guess we can move to mars right mars has more
49:57Mike Webster:oh it does more time in a day i think let's occupy mars and there you go yeah just call musk get on get on the first uh flight there you can move there you're in hiding okay He's in an unboxable right now Alright, so now we've got our 50 % retracement That was a good question by the way 50 % retracement From the highs and the lows Here back in June And we're still living above it We poked down below it yesterday It was concerning But now we're still up there Above the Peak there and we want to stay above it Let's look at the NASDAQ We've got the high from June and then the low from July. And we're at least in the Northern hemisphere, but we want to get up above that green line.
50:48Next, we will go over to our lines of importance. And let's just kind of blow that up. I removed a few in here and I was putting some back and I just wanted to try to clean this up a little bit because there's so many important levels. And I kept this one on here that it broke through yesterday because that is one of those important levels that big move up that we had on the fourth, it closed below that yesterday. So that was certainly important. The low of this day here, the third, that's important. And then we have our other lines in the sand along there. And you could put a lot more in there, but these were what I thought were the most important levels.
51:29So we certainly want to get through the high from the third sooner rather than later if this is going to work out. So on here, I think I kept the high from the 28th as one of our goals to get through. And the low from the 24th, again, there's a lot more on here. What I like to do is find a line in the sand that is somewhat close to the 200 day. Because once you go under the 200 day, you're in a whole different world. And so that final line in the sand is the July 29th low. So if you get down there, it's like, you know, go to your bunker, just go on vacation for a long time because it could get really, really ugly.
52:13Next, we will go over to my Webinacci thing. This looks complicated. It's actually extremely simple. It's just this line on the bottom here that just tallies up, gives a plus one for every time a short term moving average is above a longer term moving average. And we've got a bunch of different ones on there. And I just use the FIB numbers, like a three day, a five day, an eight day, and so on. The white line is your current price. And so it's a nice way to objectively just put a number to the trend that you're in. And that number right now is 36. But it's also important to know, is that a 36 down from a 45, because 45 is your peak, or is it a 36 up from 20?
52:55Or in this case, just a little bounce here from yesterday. So you want this to continue and you take it more seriously once it gets through that green line, that 40. And it's just tallying up all of those. Is it perfect? No. But does it give you a general feel for the type of trend in a very nice way? It really does. And eventually we'll put this in market surge. But it's very simple. And you can see in times when you get these major corrections, how quickly that goes down and also quickly it ramps back up. So you could do a lot of work just around these numbers. So where do we stand here? Well, the color kind of tells you everything in this kind of cautionary area because you're down at 36, which is right around the area to be cautious.
53:43Once you get down to 30, and again, these are subject to change, that's when you wanna be more concerned. We bounce right after we undercut that there in late July. So we'll see what ends up happening. Let's go over to the NASDAQ. For the same thing, this one through this lens is much stronger because you didn't come down, you didn't even come down to your 35, either of these pullbacks, and now you're all the way back up to 39. So how does that look to you?
54:15Mike Webster:I mean, I think we are at a level where we could easily see some improvement that would warrant us adding more exposure. but you could also see this. I just think we're at a critical juncture here. Okay, fair. And now what about the RSP? How does that look to you? That looks bad. Yeah. That's the technical term, Allie. It looks bad. So now let's go over to your favorite one. What is this that we're looking at? So we are looking at the 21 EMA only. And I think what is notable here is that has not been a reliable area of support. We've been in a very choppy market. We cannot stay above that level, yet we aren't just falling apart beneath that level either.
55:10Mike Webster:So we've had a lot of head fakes when we do retake that line. So with the sideways action that we are seeing, I think it'll be interesting to see, will we eventually break out or break down below this level? But the chop has not been fun, Webby. No, it hasn't. And what's your take on, and very well said, what's your take on that same thing for the NASDAQ? very similar i think that some traders will be adding exposure when you do get a retake of the 50-day line because eventually it will work right uh eventually so is now the time you can manage your risk uh against that because we're we're right at that level but you have to if you are going to be taking a shot every time we do get that retake you have to be willing to back away as well.
56:00Yeah. And I think the important thing that you said, the most important thing that you said was something about it, just not respecting it. So when the market or a stock does not respect whatever you care about, an RS line, a moving average of whether it's an eight day or a 21 day or a 50 day or a 200 day, when it doesn't respect it and it just travels back and forth, like it doesn't care, then for that time frame, you just can't take it as seriously. So even though I love the 21 day and I've built a lot of things around the 21 day, when the market isn't caring about it, you've just kind of got to care less about it.
56:41But that's just something for any technique or any indicator. There'll be times where the market just doesn't care about it. and then it'll go back if it's a good indicator and the 21 day really is i think it's the best thing out there uh from a simple standpoint but right now the mark is just slicing back and forth through it and it doesn't really uh like it so what i was doing there for a second is i put the 34 on there because sometimes if it doesn't follow the 21 it will follow the 34 and it didn't care about that either. So it's just a choppy mess, frankly. So let me share one other thing.
57:23Okay. All right. So here is the WebE-RSI, which is using that 21-day and using the low of the 21-day, which I think is better than using the close. And it's just measuring the distance in terms of an ATR. And right now we don't have a positive WebE-RSI on there. In fact, recently we had a negative one because when your high goes underneath it, it starts using that and it paints that with this burnt orange color. So that's a negative sign. So you don't want to see a negative or you don't want to see a wall of burnt orange on there like what we were seeing back here in March as your high is stuck underneath that.
58:10Let's look at the RRSP for a second, because then you can see that wall building up, the negative wall, because it is your highest so far. It got to two ATRs away from it. So then you have this natural mean reversion to go closer up to it. But then you want to see, can that trend change or not? We've got a checklist for that. So then we've got the NASDAQ. same thing here just a little bit better um than uh than what we saw with the other one we're going to go to another uh indicator on here this is the bob marley um off high indicator and it's just measuring your low versus your high express in atrs which is this over here on the on the right side and between uh zero and four atrs we've marked that as green and that's where you want to stay.
59:05So that's one way of looking at it, just saying, okay, I'm still in the green. The next thing is saying each level that it pulled down to, is it getting tighter or is it getting looser? And with this pullback that we had, this was still constructive. It was three and a half ATRs off its high. And this last time it was a little bit worse than that. And back here in June, it got to four and a half ATRs. So from that lens, that is constructive, not fun, but constructive. Let's take a look at the NASDAQ. This one, actually really nice in here. There was holding in well relative to this really nasty one that it had down to six.
59:50And let's take a look at our friend, the RSP, not what we'd like to see. So with this one, you could see there was kind of stopping around two and a half-ish ATRs off the high, and then it just fell out of bed here in a big way. And when it did that, it did it really quickly. So really the takeaway is, this RSP is just not looking good, which is my measure of breadth. So it's not like we're trading RSP and it's like, oh, well, just sell it if you don't care about it. That's just saying the average large cap stock is just not doing what you want it to do right now. That can change, but it hasn't changed yet.
1:00:31So we'll keep an open mind to that.
1:00:33Mike Webster:So how do you adjust for that then, Webby? You have to see where the strength is. And so the strength tends to be right now, it's with the mags in general, but most of them aren't in position. I mean, we looked at Apple, But if you look at all of them, they're not all buyable right now, but at least you want to see, okay, if it's not going into the average one, what are the Qs doing? What are SPY doing? What are the other things? Are they going down quicker or not? And if they're not, it's just telling you, okay, well, on a market cap weighted basis, the larger the better right now. and that's what's happening.
1:01:16And it does seem like it's in the mega caps is where the money is kind of hiding. And we've seen that movie before and it can play out for a while. So I'm taking the RSP as a negative thing because we were taking it as a positive thing before and it's just not right to say, okay, well, I'm gonna take it when it's good and ignore it when it's bad. But I'm also putting it in the context of we've had sustained uptrends before when the average stock wasn't participating. I'm talking about in recent years, we've seen that happen. And so my mind is open towards that. And it's also the kind of the market mechanics these days because you've got so much money in big hedge funds and big mutual funds, and they don't like getting trapped in small stocks, illiquid stocks.
1:02:03So it's always safer to hide in a, you know, you pick it, you know, and Apple and Nvidia, Microsoft, and all the big ones that they can get in and out of. And also, there's no risk. If you're a hedge fund manager or a mutual fund manager and you put a bunch of money into that thin little goodie that I mentioned, the heart flow thing, and then that blows up, you're going to have to answer to a lot of people, why were you trading the stock that's thin with no stocks with 5 % of your account? you know but if they go in an nvidia with 10 of their account and it goes down 30 everyone's gonna be like oh nvidia is a good company so you've got that going in there as well and i just label that as kind of market mechanics of of mutual fund managers and hedge fund managers
1:02:55Mike Webster:and then you also have the energy trade right standing out and we know how tricky tricky that It can be, of course, you know, we've been going an hour and haven't even had a chance to talk about the breakout in crude this week. So you have that trade continuing to work, but so news driven, as we know. So that also seems like an area where we are seeing the money flow. But it's, of course, not your traditional growthy area that we like to trade. Yeah. So I'm not opposed to trading oil related stocks at all, but I'm not a huge fan of them when you've got this news environment this way that that can throw you off at any point where you can't see that in the chart.
1:03:46You know, if you were just in a normal environment where supply and demand dynamics of, you know, like, let's say it was back in the day when everything was just fixated on OPEC, not on what tweet was going to be coming out, then you had a better chance of it. But right now, there's no way of predicting that short-term news. And if you're going to be trading that space, which a lot of people have because it's been working, that you just need to have your position size according to, okay, everything gets resolved. And what do you think is going to happen to oil that day and your oil names? And I just wouldn't make it an oversized bet.
1:04:25Like with technology, you can make it an oversized bet unless you're going into, you know, a big earnings announcement or some risk event. But with energy, every day is a big risk event. They just don't always happen. Like it's just you don't know. I mean, we could be getting a tweet right now that is a material tweet or, you know, news item out of Iran and D.C. So it just it makes it harder. Yeah, it does. How about you? Like do you trade it actively?
1:04:55Mike Webster:No, no, because I am really about, to varying degrees, but I want some level of conviction or something that I can understand, right? Because even if I buy something that looks good technically, looks great on paper, right? Fundamentals and technicals, if I don't believe in it, I'm going to get shaken out at the first sign of weakness, even if it's not triggering a major sell rule that I have, just because I'd be a weak holder, weak hands, right? So I have to have that conviction to be able to have that patience, you know, or else it's not doesn't work out for me. I've tried it. And that's what my post analysis shows me.
1:05:36I'm yeah I'm the same way when it comes to commodity related stocks whether it's you know oil or it's gold or what have you but there are times where that you can have really sustained moves and the one that we always kind of go to is like in the 07 time frame like the fertilizer stocks had this big sustained move and they all moved together and for a while there they were just growth stocks and then they went back to their cyclical nature so there's pockets of time where you want to keep your mind open. And there was a window in the last five years where it was like the XLE and related were the place to be.
1:06:13Mike Webster:So 2022, when everything was... Yeah, I think so, right? Yeah, that was good memory. That's your youth is showing that you're sharp and I'm a little fuddy-duddy. I don't have Justin's memory. I feel like he has many market dates tattooed on his mind. so he really does that guy is scary well speaking of birthdays and all how was your how was your did you see the segue how was it how was the birthday party chloe's first birthday party was quite magical she loves yellow so well yeah so whenever i ask her what her favorite color is She says, oh, for yellow. So yellow early on became just this very fun word to say.
1:07:07Mike Webster:Her face would always light up when I would say yellow. So we wanted yellow to be part of the theme in some way, shape, or form. So we kind of landed on our honey's first bee day, B-E-E. So there were little bees in the flower arrangements. and we wore yellow and she was just as cute as can be. Well, we saw pictures that you shared internally and those were the family pictures, her pictures were really, really adorable. Yeah, she's cute. And even for her cake, I got these little beehive molds for the cake. So yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Does she like the song, The Yellow Submarine? I never really dug that, but try it.
1:07:54Mike Webster:No, we haven't played that. any yellow songs, but she is really into music. I think I did share with you and the broader team the other day. Her absolute favorite song right now is Barbara Ann by the Beach Boys. Oh, I love that song. Because she's into a lot of the B words. So book, ball, block. So baba. So we have this echo show in our kitchen. I don't know if you're familiar with that. So it has the TV, calendar, weather, all sorts of stuff. And so you can play Spotify from it. So whenever we're in the kitchen, she looks at it and she goes, Baba. And she's specifically asking for us to play Barbara Ann.
1:08:34Mike Webster:So we listen to a lot of feel good oldies. And yeah, she gets really, really into it. But Barbara Ann is her favorite. That was such a good group. I actually have some of their albums, you know, in over there. And you've got to watch that you and your hubby. It's not for kids. the Beach Boys movie was really really heavy really what was it Love and Happiness I think but really really solid but you gotta be in a mood for I didn't even I didn't even know I know they did a Jersey Boys movie but I didn't know that they did a Beach Boys thing who's the Jersey Boys Jersey Boys that's Frankie Valli oh okay I thought you were talking about something like no no no so Jersey Boys is the name it was the music no so Jersey Boys The Boys was the musical, and then they turned it into a movie, but it was all about Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons.
1:09:32Mike Webster:Oh, got it. Big Girls Don't Cry. Oh, yeah, great stuff. Sherry, Walk Like a Man. Good stuff. Yeah. Oh, I love all that stuff. Which I know off the top of my head, too, because she likes the Beach Boys and Frankie Valli. She likes soprano male voices. Oh, yeah. She likes the high-pitched. would that be like um who the the bg weren't they from the bg's is that what you said the bg's yeah well that's another group that's okay that's but what were you gonna say no i was gonna say does she like the bg's oh okay so there you go yeah okay not quite as much as the beach the beach boys yeah the beach boys much much better yeah and everyone's like aren't you supposed to be talking about stocks no at the end we talk about whatever we want to talk about this is And if it's music related, then yeah, then Mike is really interested.
1:10:29I definitely will enjoy a couple weeks without me because I will be doing some some traveling and stuff. Looking forward to the Founders Club on the 25th and the 26th for anyone who's coming out to Vegas for that. The 25th, that Friday, we have a cocktail reception. The 26th is when we're speaking all day and it's going to be a great event. If you're not a Founders Club member, they are, you know, I think this is the first or second time where they're selling tickets just to the event. If that makes sense for you, check out on our website. They're also doing something where it's tape delayed, as you told me earlier today, where they're taping us and that'll be available for a different price.
1:11:14So if you can make it or watch it afterwards, words those are normally just great stuff i've been working on um follow-throughs without volume and this has nothing to do with my take on dirty volume this would be something that anyone even if i loved volume still i would use and justin has given me a lot of data behind the scenes and i'm just knee deep in that and i think it'll be really good and we'll have a lot of other great speakers there that don't put people to sleep the way I do. So it'll be a fun event if you can make it out to it. This weekend, my Webby rambles on. I did a little thing on my X handle, MWebster1971.
1:11:56I let people pick which one I was going to release. And it's going to be Expectation Breakers. So that drops tomorrow on my YouTube channel, Webby5150. I think it's a good one. And I think it's less than an hour. So I don't know. Some of these shows go for an hour and 11 minutes. That's ridiculously long.
1:12:14Mike Webster:Who would go on for an hour and 12 minutes? Yeah. And so with the Vegas thing, I just wanted to quickly add on to that. This is our most premium exclusive community. So we're opening. Well, they let me in there. So that's not that exclusive. Well, you know, we make a few exceptions. And you're one of them. But very exclusive community. And we are opening that up to, I guess, a select few others who want to join us there in person. I know it's always a good time. I'm going to be there next year. That's my plan. Baby's just a little too young right now for me to make that trip. I would miss her way, way too much.
1:12:59Mike Webster:And you can learn more by going to— And she would miss you. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that wouldn't have been the— But I will say along the lines, the speaking and, you know, all the presentations are always A plus because everyone brings their A game or their A plus game. And that's always fun. But I think it's more about getting together with everybody because it's all like-minded people. You make connections, make friends and talk about stuff that's not all stock related. And it's just a great group of people. It tends to be the same people year in, year out. Even folks back when we used to do this with a similar thing with Bill in person and in the Santa Monica thing.
1:13:41It's just it's so much fun if it's in your price range. I've never heard anyone, at least they didn't tell me that like, oh, I wish I hadn't come. They just keep coming back and looking forward to the following year. And so it's a great time.
1:13:57Mike Webster:Yeah. So for those who want more information, you can go to investors.com slash FCVegas. All right. And I know you've got at least one concert you're going to. yeah gonna go see sammy um with a couple of guys with madden and don v and and it should be a lot of fun can't can't wait uh for that that's next friday and then the then i'm flying back because i am missing like this is how much i care about this event and i'm not even kidding anybody who knows me eric lapton is doing his crossroads festival here in austin where i live and it's a Saturday, Sunday, and Saturday I'm going to be speaking, so I can't be in two places at once.
1:14:43Flying back first thing in the morning on Sunday and going to that, so I can't wait. Marcus King is going to be playing there. I hope to see John Mayer play there, too. And, of course, the king, the god, Clapton. I mean, come on, man. Like, it doesn't get better than that. And so it should be fun, and I'll be out next week. And so hold down the fort without me.
1:15:04Mike Webster:We will. Don't get sick on the plane. I know that was bad. on wood for you for that. Thank you. All right. Good stuff, Webby. And thanks so much, everyone, for tuning in. That is it from us for this week. And we'll be back on Monday with more, starting with IABD Live in the morning, investors.com slash IABD Live for all the details on our daily morning live stream starting 10 minutes before the opening bell. And then we'll see you Monday after the close, not only for our Stock Market Today video, but also our monthly Market Report with Jim Ropel ahead of a key week for stocks. So that'll be 5 p.m.
1:15:44Mike Webster:Eastern, Monday afternoon, Jim Ropel of the Ropel Report. Don't miss it. We'll see you there. Have a great weekend, everyone.
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