Heather Knight and her alter ego

26:42Before, during or after dinner

26:47I got up early this morning and figured it all out I mean it's not a very complicated quiz and I know you're going to compare it to another type of quiz but welcome to a brand new original quiz that is no way similar to Mr and Mrs. Welcome to Rhythm of the Night, Heather Knight. Yeah, nice. Thank you for having us on Rhythm of the Night, Heather Knight. Where we learn about the life and times of Heather Knight and who knows her better? Her teammate, Izzy Wong or her partner, Tim? Oh! Oh, I like this. This is good. This is really good. He's in trouble. He loves doing this. Loves texting people's partners for information about them.

27:31Again. That's his calling card. I'm going to tell Katie to block him. Yeah, it's actually we got in touch with Tim, who is Heather's partner. I'm going to ask him a series of questions. Who will get more answers correct? Tim? Or is he wrong? Okay. Is that Heather? Is that okay?

27:49Issy Wong:I can't say no. No. No, no, should have checked that. How is Tim, by the way? Ask Matt. Oh, no, what do you ask? Ask Matt. How is Tim, Matt? He's good. He's very good cricket. I was going to ask this, Heather. Is it good having someone that's... Is he? He's decent, isn't he? Well, he's done in the back at the moment. He was actually bowling at me, my first face of bowlers. And in a back spasm. And he hasn't been able to move properly for two weeks. Oh, God, you two have had a nightmare. Well, I was going to ask this. We're ageing in a right household. This is a genuine question. is it some is it important for you in a relationship to have someone that knows the cricket world because some crickets i've chatted to mainly jimmy their their partner doesn't like cricket at all very supportive whereas tim obviously knows everything he knows a lot about the women's games doesn't he same for you is you've got partners in the cricket world is that a good thing to have i mean i wouldn't compare tim to a professional cricketer as katie I'm not sure what he's been telling you but it's useful that he enjoys cricket and he likes coming to watch he did tell me once after quite a heavy loss that it's just a game which probably was not the correct thing to say I imagine he's only ever said that once yeah he got the look that Felix got when he spat at me I know that look I know what you've just done he obviously plays a little bit of club cricket himself and during my rehab actually I've gone down to watch him a little bit more and found myself being sort of dragged behind the bar to pull pints and catching the winning the winning softball team as well which is quite fun so that's been quite nice to to sort of be around do you um club cricket again do you give him pointers after he's come off and sort of played a bad shot just a game it's only a game tim no we we try not to discuss that sort of thing do you give Katie great question no sometimes I ask for pointers because Casey's a very good fielder so often when I've dropped a catch I will either if she wasn't there send her the video or be like after a safe amount of time where I've felt sad about it be like what have I done wrong here and a lot of the time it's you were trying to catch it with your legs crossed or something like that but I would say we know when to talk to each other and when to just be like yeah should we stick the telly on yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm related to everything i think you've got more brummy do you reckon i mean you just went you dropped a catch really it really caught me off guard i didn't listen to the rest of what you're saying because i couldn't stop thinking about that magic catch amazing i reckon it's because all the times i've dropped a catch all the time i had a brummy coach you've dropped a catch the amount of times you've heard it yeah yeah that's so funny sorry about that make yourself conscious now anyway imagine should we do the bloody quiz okay do i need a pen and paper no heather needs a pen and paper i don't have a pen and paper you just defied your instruction okay heather i asked him what aspect of your job as a professional cricketer do you like least what's the worst bit about being a professional cricketer?

31:05I think I know the answer to this what would you say? I would say just from the start of this conversation what we've got a sense of the diplomacy required oh that's quite good

31:14Issy Wong:she don't need to be diplomatic anymore oh that's true, tells me what she really thinks now Izzy what would you say? it depends if she's gone, well like if you've gone serious it might be like spending long periods of time away from home and friends and family and stuff like that if it's unserious to have a multiple choice. It could be like... It could be like... No. No. Where would it be? Okay. Worst part of being a professional cricketer. Sorry, everyone. That was a terrible idea. I apologize. Team's answer was when your captain is telling players they weren't in the team. Is that the correct answer?

31:46Right. It's so specific. I just... Of all the things in the... It's like, you choose one thing and all the things that it could possibly be in the whole world. All right. The other question is more specific.

31:58Issy Wong:Worst part of being a professional cricketer has got to be getting given out I seem to remember Heather being given out reverse sweeping once and reviewing it thinking she'd loved it and then ultra I did love it yes ultra there we go ultra I remember what you're talking about Southampton which is 2023 so getting given out on a decision getting out on a decision you disagree with that's got to be the worst part of being a professional cricketer okay I think you should talk through that whole delivery and that whole wicket it please yeah why do you two so is he you you think she didn't well no no i had no opinion i was 60 yards away sat on the bench in a busy vest but yeah i was running out the drink so i've like run out the drink and it's been sent upstairs and there's like heather going i've sent upstairs because i've smashed it with my glove i've punched it and then ultra edge coming up and like the flatest line you've ever seen and then the kind of awkwardness of like well I mean it could be wrong but that's what it says yeah it was not happy chaffing I love how funny Izzy's finding this yeah she was tackling as I was walking off and then Izzy's walking off going I f***ing whacked that there was a lot of head shaking wasn't there and we were all there like this bursting of laughter yeah yeah probably did this is the first time in two and a half years I've been able to let it out oh wow that laughter's been canned up inside waiting for the right moment waiting for your stage that's the worst moment part of being a professional cricketer I reckon yeah can I change my answer to teammates laughing at you when you did hit the ball and they don't believe you oh sorry do you still think you hit it yeah yeah I did hit it Greg I'm convinced I thought we should move on because I'm sounding a bit ranting this does make it even funnier I understand why you're laughing Izzy Wong's still laughing by the way it's gone bright red you can't stop giggling at this Izzy's got that thing when you're at school and you know you need to stop laughing but you can't stop laughing now I did hit it actually what was the correct answer oh I forgot about this game oh sorry I did write so when I was captain it was the interviews after he'd lost the game oh okay so I went quite serious okay you shook your head I said it depends if she goes serious and she went like this okay Heather who was your favourite player growing up good this is more specific Do you want multiple choice for this as well, Greg?

34:52Well, it's not just... This podcast isn't for me. I was just thinking about the listeners playing along.

34:58Issy Wong:I think I'm going to go... Don't worry about them. I'm going to go for the obvious one. I'm going to go for the banker. I'm going to go Rachel Hare Herflin. Ooh. Hey. Oh, I'm not that old. Well. Well. Yeah, I was like, what? I'm going to tell you about six. Well, I'll tell you, Tim, man. Tim, man. Oh, Izzy, can't spit me laughing at me. Tim went for Michael Atherton. Oh, nice. No, that's not. Heather just pulled a face. Not disrespectful. Matching, you might get this one. Not disrespectful face, but just... Well, Matching might get it. Triscothic. Yeah, Triscothic. Yeah, it's Triscothic. Come on.

35:35That's a great one. Does that count as a half point?

35:37Issy Wong:Is that a half point? That feels like a half point. Why? Heather says no. No, absolutely not. Begging. It's either Rachel Hayhoe Flint or Marcus Triscothic. This is why I'm all disappointed. Izzy's having to do her own multiple choice. Hevy, you know when you set up, just going to throw a cricket question in here, you know when you set up and your back lift is quite high, where did you learn that from when you stood really tall and your back's like... Well, I actually changed my back lift after the 2017 World Cup, so I used to have my hands quite low, actually. But I found when I played on slow wicket, I wasn't hitting the ball through the infield as well as I wanted to, wanted to hit the ball a little bit harder so i actually changed my technique and went a bit more so higher a bit more rhythmical mainly with the goal of just trying to hit the ball a bit harder on slow wickets really so it gives you like hand speed through the ball essentially yeah if you just feel yeah and just like a bit more rhythm to yeah i don't know get your hands through the ball yeah yeah did it take a while to for that to become natural was that is that just did that quite quickly yeah it took quite a long time actually i remember it was about sort of two months two and a half months before we had nash's series overseas so it was like sort of unlearning yeah all those hours of your technique that you've had and then trying to implement like the new technique but yeah it worked out really well actually was it someone you watched like who had higher hands that you thought are like that might work for me or was it something you just played around with and it's just a conversation with our batting coach at the time another brummy Ali Maiden Warwickshire's finest Warwickshire's finest Wolverhampton and yeah we just chatted about it and like it was just an area that I felt like I could get better and just yeah agreed that hit lots of balls you always look really similar to Johnny Bearstay to me is that the way you both set up not physically not literally thanks Greg anyway well yeah he probably gets the ball a bit a bit further than me but yeah I'll take that yeah I don't think we got the answer to your first question sorry in all that.

37:37What was your actual answer? Michael Striscothic. Michael Striscothic? No, the first one.

37:42Issy Wong:No, it was giving losing post-match interviews. Yeah. Post-match interviews. Okay, final one. What moment in your career were you happiest? Well, yeah. It's quite an obvious one. Yeah. Well, it's one of two, isn't it? Wow. You can make your own multiple choices in your head, listeners. Oh, don't worry, they are. Was it A, B, or C? just fill in the gaps there okay is he one what do you reckon it's going to be can you look past winning a World Cup at Lords lifting a World Cup at Lords is that too obvious I thought I was straight down the middle of Rachel Hayhoe Flint last time I was a bit off there was it meeting Rachel Hayhoe Flint was it going to Rachel Hayhoe Flint's 18th birthday was it Was it in the ashes when you got given out LBW?

38:34You're like, don't worry, I've definitely gloved it, so it's fine. Well, Tim says, he says it should be losing to New Zealand in a meaningless ODI in Mount Manganui, because that's where you met Tim. Oh, that's lovely. But she'll probably lie and say it was the 2017 World Cup, because she's been dining out on that for years.

38:54Issy Wong:That's quite sweet from Tim, to be fair. It is the 2017 World Cup. Just to clarify, Tim, it isn't Manganui.

39:07but poor old Tim's put his back out as well he's in bed just going well imagine I was being unfair that was actually a very very good game high quality and I actually the game was bad but we've got some great stories out of it exactly and for that thank you really enjoyed it so come on then what's happening in the World Cup because obviously Australia are the team to beat, but India, in India, what are you feeling? Can England actually do this?

39:36Issy Wong:Yeah, definitely. I think we're probably going in and playing underdogs potentially, which isn't a bad place to be. And yeah, it's a World Cup, isn't it? If we play our best cricket, I feel like we can beat anyone. So I'm buzzing for it, actually. It's going to be really fun. It is going to be fun. Izzy, obviously, you know, as Izzy Wong, as the fan club, we want you out there. There's time, isn't there? there's time for you to go and do world cups and be regularly playing for england and stuff how are you feeling about it because obviously we're sort of dancing around it but we want to see you out there and surely you want to be out there thanks greg obviously i'd like to be out there and that's like that's one of them where it's like you get the call and it's like yeah unfortunately not this time and like it is really like i think disappointing is the right term because i wasn't expecting to go but there's still the kind of disappointment of that would have been really cool to represent England at World Cup would be so cool but like you say I've got hopefully a bit of time on my hands and I've had a really good summer and like I've actually just loved being out there and playing cricket and so I like I don't want like my kind of disappointment of not going to the World Cup to take away from like my happiness of how I've how much I've enjoyed this season because they're kind of two separate things yeah well it's been great watching you this summer because you have looked so happy like you've really been enjoying your cricket it's been amazing to see actually.

40:52Heather what do you make of Izzy and what does the future hold for her in your expert opinion?

40:57Issy Wong:I think I said to you during the 100s I think you're back to your best don't you and you just look like you're enjoying cricket and I remember captaining you like at the start of your career and I just loved captaining you because you were just a bundle of energy and you wanted to run in and make an impact in those big moments and that's quite rare in a player I think so yeah it was really cool actually to obviously be part of the coaching staff at 100 and kind of see you do your thing we were so bothered when we got you in the draft like you're such a such a steal and obviously a perfect fit for us at spirit and just to see you running and do what you do and i think the biggest change in the last couple of years have been like you've always had all the skills but you now you kind of know and sense when to use them which is is a really cool thing and yeah just seeing you kind of mature and come back from quite a tricky period probably fair to say the last couple of years is it's pretty cool i love those those kind of stories where people go through tough patches and then come back because it yeah it's almost the making of people as cricketers so yeah i'm pretty buzzing to see what our kids got in store in the next couple of years yeah come on is he Heather what's it like just quickly because i know you've probably got things to do you're training aren't you and everything and you've got a world cup to go and win but what is it can you talk us through what it's like facing izzy what does she do good question what's what are you looking out for with with a bowler like izzy well she's got a lot of tricks they trying to watch her hand quite closely because she's got sort of back of the hand, slow ball, she's got a knuckle ball, got a wobble ball, she's going to get away.

42:25Issy Wong:So you're trying to pick up little cues around what she's going to do because she does keep you guessing. Often uses a slow ball quite early as well. Not anymore. You've got to change your tack now, I'm afraid. So yeah, it's just trying to watch it closely and try and counteract the skills that she has, try and put her under pressure. I've always enjoyed facing Wongi because you know there's going to be a massive celly if you get out so you want to try and avoid the celly right they've got about 80 against us this season so she's okay did it quite well though and izzy how are you getting heather knight out i don't know if i've actually ever got heather knight out i got i got here for six over extra cover yeah i'll get i'll get reversing if she pulls her reverse out just so she can punch it off the stumps so now they're just to peel really loudly

43:14Issy Wong:you must have got me out I reckon you got me out I don't think I have I remember you hitting for me for a massive six into the stand at Derby over extra cover and I stood there and watched it and thought that's one of the nicest shots I've ever seen I don't think I've ever got you out I'll give you a big send off if I do look forward to it you're unlucky man call her s***bag Shelly s***bag Shelly why don't you why don't you play tomorrow why don't you play tomorrow get a runner not allowed mate the leash is still on get a runner you can get a runner I also got a plane to catch so yeah she's busy fair enough alright don't rub it in go into the world cup we know he's not going alright some of us have got a plane to catch yeah I've got a plane to catch mate sorry can't be around in Somerset that's my revenge the pitch looks like it's real spin friendly out there actually yeah go have a good one death of Stephen pitch tough place to bowl at Taunton well Heather thank you for your time Izzy it's been great having you back on yeah so what's going on tomorrow?

44:17Issy Wong:Warwickshire Somerset it's our last game of the season is Somerset still in the hunting? yes I think there's a slim chance they could qualify I think we're out of it so it's our last game of the season down at the Coopers Associates County Ground Matching have a great time on the rest of your romantic weekend in Norway thank you any other work that you're doing? later? No, going to a floating sauna tomorrow. So keep an eye out for that. A floating sauna? What's a floating sauna? Do you mean a boat? No, it's a sauna that floats down the lake and then you go in the sauna and then you jump in the lake once you want to cool off and you get back in the sauna.

44:58Kind of is a boat. Mate, send me photos of that. That sounds so good. That sounds amazing.

45:04Issy Wong:How many people fit in the sauna? I think there's 10, but I'm hoping it's just going to be us two. I tried to get it, but it should be 10 random Norwegians. We'll see. I can't wait to hear what the eight random Norwegians you're sharing a floating sauna with say is the nice highlight of her career.

45:25The thing is about sauna etiquette is, do you make conversation in a sauna? I don't like making chat. No. No. Because everyone else can hear you, can't they? It's weird. Yeah, yeah. I can't believe that you don't like making conversation in the sauna well we've actually all sat in a sauna together me, you, Greg and Jimmy and that was the weirdest experience of my whole life yeah well it's quite strange isn't it yeah I think we're not being on Zillip we just giggle anyway anyway that's my weekend oh that sounds really nice that's really nice should we do some some go wells and then get out of here get a hell of a yeah yeah because Matching's got a sauna to get to well you've got to go and see the scream first of all scream then play a sauna are you going to recreate it?

46:13yeah I feel like everyone does a photo next to the scream don't they I'll send that to you later please do Heather look feel free to go if you've got stuff to do but thanks so much for being on Tailenders and go well with the World Cup you're a legend and we're so excited that you're still playing and going out to the World Cup and you're hungry for it we'll be watching and cheering you on and don't forget in six months to end this live ****bag Shelley plays Lucky Man for the first time one night only

46:41Issy Wong:one night only is so good go well Heather can't wait cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers what a lovely moment that was by the way Izzy with her talking about you that was nice that was nice when I was I was talking about Heather yeah I know what I mean you tell her now she poxed what was it like what was it like at being best friends with Rachel A. Hayhoe Flint in the 1830s. I didn't think Rachel A. Flint was that far ago. She was very sweet about you. She is more recent history in my mind. No, she is. She is. She is. We're just being silly.

47:16But it was very nice to her. It's like cool to have someone like that talking that well about you. Anyway, thank you to Heather Knight and go well to the England team who are off to India for the World Cup. You're not going. Remember that? You're not on the plane. Heather Knight is. Not on the plane. thanks to everyone for the amazing feedback for um for last week's episode of tailenders which was the little yearns special we loved the little yearns we're definitely going to do another one of them soon and izzy we'd love you to be part of that next time because jimmy really came alive with some of those last week he he loves hearing when us mere mortals fantasize about bits of the game that he's sort of quite blasé about but it's really really fun so thanks keep those coming in please tailenders at bbc.co.uk and let's do the go wells and then leave you alone to get on with your lives weddings human being weddings human being ones Ben and Evie Jazz and Hugh and Izzy and Tim go well go well anniversaries human being anniversaries human being ones Dec and Suze Kate and Rhys and also no that's it that's the anniversary go well cheers Julie Cakes wants to go well and a get well for her mate Butch.

48:33She writes, Butch was playing for East Ardsley Cricket Club and was asked to help the opposition out as a substitute fielder. Whilst there was no needle, there did end up being some theatre. The operating theatre. Unfortunately, when running to take an awkward high catch, Butch collided with another fielder, resulting in a broken collarbone and a pelvis. And a broken ankle for the other guy. You should have seen the other guy. Actually, it was just an ankle, whereas I broke my pelvis and collarbone. On the bright side, Rich didn't have to live with the guilt of catching his mate out and his team went on to win the game.

49:07On the not-so-bright side, he spent his birthday in hospital. So a huge go well, get well to Butch. Go well, get well. Go well, Butch. Cheers. Engagements. Human being engagements, human being ones. Ryan and Holly.

49:20Issy Wong:Go well. One for love. Birthdays. Birthdays, human being birthdays, human being ones. And Remy, also a go-well for his brother Obi, not his birthday, just wanted to shout out, didn't want to get jealous. Jacob, and wonderful, lifelong tailender and friend of the show and also friend of ours from the World Cup final. She managed to sort out an extra ticket, I think for Sharky on the actual day and is just a mad tailender's listener, really amazing person. Claire Booth, we love you. Happy 40th birthday. The biggest go well ever for Claire Booth. Felix, can we have a chord that is appropriate for the brilliance that is Claire Booth?

50:06Oh, I like this one, mate. Go well. That's a good one. Cheers. Move well to Ricky, who has moved to Vietnam for a laugh. Should be a laugh. Cricket clubs. Human being cricket clubs, human being ones. Actonians fourths. Middlesex Over 60s, Seconds, Morriston Cricket Club, St Mary Church Old Boys Cricket Club, Portsmouth and Southsea Cricket Club, Portishead Cricket Club, Aston Rowant Cricket Club, Tilburg Regents, Stockport Trinity Under 9s and Under 11s, and Leicestershire for getting promoted to Division 1 for the first time in 22 years. That has gone well. Go well. Mark, plus 15 mates and family members are off to finals day at Edgbaston.

50:52Go well to you. Cheers Should be a good one Go on cheers We have new tailenders Including a Jasmine And a Felix A human being Baby A human being ones Emilia is off to Is it Geelong To play cricket in the winter That's Sydney

51:10Issy Wong:Is that near Sydney Near Sydney Or is it Geelong Yeah Geelong Geelong I don't know Or is it Geelong Geelong Geelong What is it Sharky Geelong I would say If I'm faded up yes you've faded up I've faded up but Geelong Geelong this podcast is a bit bloody Geelong if you ask me let's get on with it anyway go well Amelia that'll be a very exciting winter and you'll be out there for the ashes as well uh snip well googly news for Tomsy Hoops and Herrick Ram snip well that well it's a ram but that is a ram who's got snip a sheep got ya yes I like it very much like a sheep cheers um stop it doing tupping isn't it that's what they do with sheep that's the let's move on um garden furniture slash equipment edwin has emailed after many years of loyal service and world-class performances it brings me sadness to share that shednerine chander paul has been retired from garden furniture duty do not despair though i am also pleased to announce that he will be replaced in just a matter of weeks by a brand new signing to the garden, which is Tillakaratne Dillshed.

52:24Which is really nice. So thank you for all your go-wells. We have one more, which is Felix White related. And it is from Claire. And it says, Hi G-Force, Jimmy, Matching Shockey and Felix. I wanted to give the biggest shout out to Steve the Chili, who when he's not inappropriately interrupting Felix's book event for emotionally traumatic and beautifully written memoirs is a solicitor in real life and he recently helped me sell my flat so I can buy a house with my boyfriend for a laugh down in Kent. Please can you officially thank him for helping me hashtag sell well. Thanks for having me on the shout outs for Steve the house selling chilli.

53:03Go well Claire Love you Steve, go well P.S. Thanks for the 10 minute takeover request the other day for Hometown Glory the high contrast remix it made my day that's nice you're welcome thank you Matchin enjoy the scream and the sauna hopefully there's no screaming in the sauna because that might mean that you are naked and you weren't supposed to be Izzy Wong we love you see you very soon send our regards to your cats and to Katie and Felix White goodbye God bless love you goodbye to you go well cheers go well

53:36Issy Wong:cheers cheers

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