Jimmy’s Underrated Ashes XI

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0:39Hello and welcome to Tailenders. Hello and thank you for having us on Tailenders. Tailenders. Tailenders. This is great, James. Jimmy Anderson's over there. Sorry, I should say G-Force for those that prefer that. Jimmy Anderson. And soon to be Sir Jimmy Anderson. Next week. Yeah, we've got a date. We should talk about that actually at the top of the show, as they say in the business. Felix White as well. And later on, Matt Chintendorka will be joining us too. We want to talk about Ashes Fever. We want to do some sort of Ashes 11, but it seems like every other podcast has done an Ashes 11. So we think we found a new Ashes 11 that no one's done yet.

1:19We also want to talk about the Women's World Cup, which is going well. Cheers. Well, going well-ish. Cheers. We want to talk about England's men down under in New Zealand. Fon Bunthian update. plus if you've got time some little yearns as well jimmy oh cheers getting you're getting knighted give us the details uh what do you want to know a time and place when i don't don't tell because people will turn up i just i'd say like do you know who's doing it the buzz what have you been talked have you been have you been talked through the process because you've got to do like a kneel but what do you say?

1:55What's the, what have you received? Yeah, not a lot really. I know when to turn up and where. Yep. Yep. What palace you at? Big one, Buckingham? Windsor. Windsor. So did they tell you, Jim, like this is what the procedure's going to be? Like you're going to have to bow? Is there a rehearsal or anything like that? No. Wow. Wow. I've literally been told where to go and when. That is it. And you don't know what role you're getting? No. What's your hunch? Charles? Charles? Royal. I don't know. Oh, Royal. I don't know. William? Which Royal do you want? Yeah, who do you want? Who do you... Well, I don't think I've ever met William.

2:36You think him. Maybe him. What if you turn up and it was the Dalai Lama? I'd be devastated. I'm wasting my time. What are you doing here? I'm booking. I'm booking. I've got to go. I've got to make a call. I'd walk straight out.

2:54keep it keep it keep it for yourself yeah this is how much i can't obviously i can't want to kneel down for you tonight no are you a bit nervous because i even like those things like would make me nervous like i want so i walk over there what's the exact thing you need me to do it's like a wedding when all you have to do is hand over the flowers but you get a bit freaked out. I can't say. I'm nervous now. That's good. I think you shouldn't be. Should I be making a bigger deal of it? I like how little of a deal you're making out of it. Let me tell you this. In the UK the knighting ceremony is performed by the king.

3:39Congratulations. Have you met him before? I've met him a few times before, yeah. Oh, okay. He did my... I went to Buckingham Palace for my OBE and needed that. Right. Right. Yeah, Ian. Nice to see you again, James. Nice to see you. Have you met the king, Greg? And he's still bowling. Greg, you met the king, haven't you? I haven't met the king, no. No. No, I've not met the king. I've not met the king. I've met the queen. I've met... I've met the queen, but she's dead now. But the queen isn't dead, is she, anymore? Because the queen's now Camilla. Oh, right, yeah. They call her the queen now. She must never be queen.

4:18The queen never dies. A mate of mine met King Charles when he was a carpenter. And he went on a show to see people because he's really into people. King Charles was a carpenter? No, no, my mate's a carpenter. I think you're getting confused with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ, superstar. No, my mate did the thing that I did to Sachin. He just said, all right, mate, to him. Nice. Yeah.

4:46I remember when the queen came to radio one and, um, all the DJs lined up and they're all like, you know, it's, it's ma 'am, not ham. You've got to say, hello, ma 'am. Nice to see you. Whatever. Yeah. But, um, but she went down the line and Grimmy was there and he went, you're right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. How are you doing? Yeah. Right. Well, I think that's a fine thing to say. That's a complicated one because it's like, would it be rude to say to any person of 80, yeah, all right, or would it be fine? Well, I don't think it is, but there's just these rules, aren't there? Yeah, yeah. No. They're just humans, aren't they?

5:28Anyway, so Jimmy, this is your last tailenders where you're not royalty. This is the last ever tailenders you'll do as a mere mortal. Well, sure. Sure. Well, look, I'm looking forward to it even if you're not. I didn't say I'm not looking for you. No, I know. I'm joking. I'm joking. Well, good luck at the castle, Jimmy. We'll be rooting for you and we'll be excited to chat to Sir Jimmy Anderson on the next podcast. That's exciting. Give our regards to Charles. Is he Geordie? It did sound a bit Geordie, that, actually. I didn't realise it was our feeders in pet. Our feeders in pet. right arm over wicket anyway also he's all got leg spinners fingers isn't he he's got quite Shane Warne-esque hands have you seen his hands he's got quite big hands big fingers can you ask him if you get a moment can you ask him if he's a leg spinner because I feel like he might be a wrist spinner I'd always thought this Charles would be a bit more old fashioned up and down doesn't really move it much bowls about 75-80 clicks seam up interesting yeah also ashes fever obviously is is gripping a small percentage of the nation and by that i mean podcasters um podcasters really want to give us their ashes 11s right and we're getting best ashes 11s we're getting best combined ashes 11s we're getting michael vaughan's best alphabetical ashes 11 from the 90s um so what i thought we would do is what's the tailender's version about the tailender's version is underrated ashes because tailenders by their very nature are underrated people that is what a tailender is it's the underdog the tailender you don't expect much from them but sometimes it comes off in the most glorious way so who are those underdogs that don't get enough ashes love so we cross now live to nearly sir jimmy anderson for a couple of names to get us going.

7:37So who's in your underrated tail end as Ashes 11, please? So the names I'm going to read out are potentially not underrated cricketers. Okay. But what I've gone for is, you know, everyone talks about the Ashes and it's who's done amazingly well. And, you know, so Botham, Willis, Broad, all these people get brought up in, you know, Flintoff, Peterson, Stokes. Sessions. these there's just three so yeah I've gone with with recognised recognised names but ones that have performed in the ashes very well contributed towards winning series but aren't necessarily given the credit they're due for that right you've given more thought to this than your knighthood yeah that's how it should be cricket first and that's why he's getting knighted for services to cricket it so i'll start you off with chris broad okay yeah match match referee as the match referee or yeah no no no um for his contributions to so the 86 ashes i think it was 86 87 in australia i think he got i'm going to do him a disservice but i think he got two or three hundreds can't remember that's not disservice and no i mean i mean i just can't remember how many hundreds he got.

8:59Okay, you might have got four or five. I feel like his sort of achievements in the Ashes have been overshadowed by his son. Oh, yeah. Yeah, fair enough. I didn't really think about a succession. Yeah. Get brought up in conversation about the Ashes, even though he is you know, England have won the Ashes twice in Australia in the last 40 odd years. Yeah. He was a very huge contributor towards that. Love that, love that. I've gone for Strauss because I couldn't think of another opening batter but Andrew Strauss captain of that 2010-11 Ashes winning team doesn't really you know he's more talked about for dropping me and Brodie once when he was director of cricket rather than an Ashes winning captain by you and us the old the old phone call on this podcast yeah he's more talked about on this podcast for that actually yeah he's more known for being dead to us but you're right though I mean he's not But he's, yes, in terms of Ashes stuff, definitely because Michael Vaughan with the 2005 Ashes is very, very loud.

10:06That whole series is so vivid in our memories, so loud. It was such a moment that that's got a long tail, hasn't it, that 2005. So actually you're spot on with Andrew Strauss in terms of Ashes, he is underrated. 20 tests, 36 innings, 1 ,400 runs, averaged 40 and got four Ashes centuries as well. So that is spot on. The other thing that I think of Andrew Strauss is that because we always think of him as the guy that's bold, warned him in 05 Ashes one way around his legs and then the other way, the thing. And so whenever I think of Ashes moments, that's the thing that gets clipped up of Andrew Strauss.

10:41The one when he leaves it outside, leg stump, and then he does him the other way. So anyway, go on, Jim. So as I said, England have only won there once in the last 30 odd years. And he was the captain of that. And I don't, I think, as you said, Greg, Michael Bourne gets more compliments for the 2005 Ashes. Whereas, obviously, Strauss was a huge part of that away win, which is even rarer than... Yeah, so true. So true. Okay, so Andrew Strauss is a great shout. And he's your captain? He's your captain? Okay, we might get to your captain. We might get to your captain. Yeah, I'll go with his captain.

11:18Okay, he's captain. Your pick for number three... Jonathan Trott. Massive part of home ashes. So 2009 through to 2011. I just think that he's, yeah, maybe he's remembered for 2013 ashes where he went home, had struggles. And actually he was a massive part of the 10-11 win. I think that's forgotten. Okay. Jonathan Trott, 12 ashes, tests, 21 innings, nearly a thousand runs. Average 48 with three centuries. Fantastic record. Who's back in at four? Who's coming in next? Mike Gatting. Well, again, this is the thing, isn't it? Is this a common theme in your picks, do we think, Jimmy, that they were part of hugely famous Ashes moments, but actually they should not be defining that player?

12:12Yeah, well, I think, again, Mike Gatting's remembered for the ball of the century at Old Trafford. Shane Warne pitching one nearly off the wicket and spins to hit the top of off stump. but actually his contribution to Ash's victories was big. Again, that 86 team he was part of. So I just think, you know, he's an absolute English legend as well. Gave so much to English cricket and I'm sure he laughs about it now, the fact that most people will have seen him from that video of Shane Warne getting him out, but obviously he's a much better player than that. Is there a more watched wicket than any, than that ever?

12:48It's the most watched wicket of all time. More people have seen Mike Gatton get out than any other batter. Yeah, I can't think of any other wicket to be much more than that in the whole world. I can't think of anything when he got close. I think it might get close. Jimmy and why are you chirping now, mate? You're not getting any wickets in Australia. I think that might be in the top five of most viewed wickets. But yeah, nothing close to Gatton. Four centuries, average 37.75, 27 Ashes test matches, nailed on. Number four. Coming in at number five, it's tail ender's favourite, Alan Lamb. Tell us why.

13:25Well, I think this is probably the most, or potentially the most dubious pick in an underrated 11 because it's Alan Lamb. Alan Lamb. Obviously a huge, honorary tail ender, Sharky's hero. So it's dubious that he's in there. But again, I don't think people associate him. When they talk about Alan Lamb, the cricketer, They don't talk about him in an Ashes sense. It's just what he did for England and how he performed for England. But I think his record in Ashes cricket is extremely good. So that's why I included him. Yeah, nice. Alan Lamb at five. Sharky's popped up excitedly. Am I faded up? Yes, you've faded up.

14:07An addendum to Alan Lamb. An addendum. What's brilliant about Alan Lamb in Ashes cricket? not a test match but it's all over YouTube in a pre-buzzball era in a pre-smashing you know loads off and over in a World Series game he dismantles Bruce Reid In a baseball match? I think he scores what's in a World Series no it was a World Series which was a World Series cricket yeah it was a one day series after the test matches which was called World Series because of the relationship and the compromise they came to off the back of the World Series Kerry Packard and all that blah blah blah anyway go on YouTube he smashes Bruce Reid all over the place I think he hits maybe 18 off and over or maybe 16 in a time when people did not hit 16 or 18 off and over and they're all wearing brilliant coloured kits as well I will fade myself down lovely to hear from you Sharknade in the movie passionate addition Sharky thank you so much go well cheers who's in after Lamb got Derek Randall at number 6 hmm go on then tell us about Derek Randall give us your pitch I'm not sure about his record in Ashes cricket.

15:16But again, he's not someone who's regularly talked about. Probably not in terms of being an England legend. But to me, you know, I had videos when I was growing up as a kid. And he was an unbelievable fielder. Very trustworthy with the bat. And I also played against him when I started my career. Oh, no way. You played against him? Yeah, he was playing for a minor county. I want to say Cumberland maybe when the minor counties were in one of the trophies basically, one of the knockout competitions and I was 18 probably playing for Lancashire Cricket Board Lancashire Cricket Board If you want to know anything about that period of cricket just google Derek Randall and see the first photo that comes up, it's him drinking the biggest bottle of some sort of alcohol with his white son just google it Derek Randall don't you know what he's drinking oh yeah what is that is that scotch is it scotch yeah that is that couldn't tell you more about cricket at that time his official photo on ESPN quick info is that that's his official photo

16:33it's amazing that that's the era you joined and then you know we always sort of joke about oh oh, look, Jimmy's playing and Ray and Ahmed's playing and he's 18. And that, my friend, is the circle of life, isn't it? Yeah. Did you drink a bottle of whiskey when Ray and Ahmed turned up in the dressing room? No. No. See, and that's progress. Who's your keeper? I've gone for Alan Nott. Great shout. Yeah. Not underrated, really, but just maybe not spoken about that much. No, not underrated. But again, yeah, I think he averaged like nearly 36, 37 in his career, which was unheard of. around that time for wicket keepers.

17:10And he was also a brilliant wicket keeper. Love Alan Knott. His Ashes record is really good. 34 tests, 1 ,600 runs, nearly averaging 33 in Ashes, two centuries, 97 catches and eight stumpings. Very, very good. Really nice. Come on, let's get into the bowlers. Who's your spinner? My spinner's John Embry. Nice. Lovely. Really nice. He was vice captain of the 86, 87 team. Okay. I think he was a leading wicket-taker in that series for England as well, with 18 wickets. Great. But again, he's not someone that I hear talked about in that, you know, people's ashes memories and stuff. I know this is a long time ago, but, you know, it's quickly forgotten.

17:57And I think, you know, as I said, like 81, everyone talks about Botham and Willis in that series. But obviously, like, yeah, someone like John Embry, I think obviously was a huge part of that. John Embry was famously recalled at the age of 43 to the England Test team in the mid-90s. So you're saying there's a chance. Exactly, exactly. That's what King Charles is going to say to you, realise that? John Embry was famously recalled at the age of 43. Well, maybe not the John Embry. Why, did you know that John Embry? Anyway, John Embry, great. Let's go into the, let's get the quicks. Who's your quicks?

18:35I've gone Bresnan Tremlett Onions Bresnan Tremlett famously in that series I played in 10-11 came in for the industry at Broad and Stephen Finn and did incredibly well like helped us win that series and again not sure there talks about that much and similarly with Graham Onions 2009 the win in England remember him getting he bounced Ricky Ponting out which I've not really seen I didn't even see Shobak Taddy that don't think and then got Mike Hussey out first ball in two and two balls at Edgbaston just little moments like that through that series he was a huge part of that love it yeah Graham Onions three tests ten wickets average of 30 loved watching him bowl these are great picks loved Tremlett loved watching Breslin sort of bustling in as well really solid solid fast bowlers great picks Jimmy why don't we do Fi why don't we do yours next week and then I completely miss this in the group so I'll come up with a team as well we'll do we'll do two more underrated 11s and if there's some we'd love some tailenders ones as well so please feel free to send them in i quite like the idea of i know jimmy wanted to keep it to keep it england i quite like a mixed a mixed um underrated um 11 as well that's quite fun so yeah send send all yours in and um you can send them to tailenders at bbc.co.uk OK, Women's World Cup.

20:01So it seems like Australia could well be winning that. However, England have done really well. They qualified for the semifinals. There was a really good game against India, which India sort of had. And then it was Smriti Mandana sort of messed it up a little bit. But it was a brilliant, brilliant game of cricket. So there's a chance that England could do this still. Absolutely there is. How do you see it, Jimmy? yeah I obviously want England to be able to win it but I just don't see anyone beating Australia I can't see it even the game against England the other day they were missing Alyssa Healy and still you see the strength and depth in that batting line up they've got all bases covered with the ball I just feel like they've got that little 5 % 10 % on England in most departments so I think England would take like just their best performance that they could possibly do and Australia just to be a little bit off to be able to beat them I think that's I mean in 50 over cricket that's very very possible so especially on the wickets that we've been seeing I think England have got a lovely balance of their seamers and spinners can really utilize those conditions so I do think that the bowling's like pretty solid it's the batting that you know it needs people to come to the party on that front And too many times they've been like three or four down in the first 20 overs.

21:32And you can't afford to do that against top teams. Yeah, some really good batting from Tammy Beaumont. She hits 78 against the Aussies. Great to see Heather Knight in form as well. Probably to do with Matchin keeping her eye in while playing paddle. That was a huge part of her rehabilitation. So that's good. It's good to see Matchin's work coming good. We'll see how it all pans out. We've got a good chance of seeing, well, we've got a great chance of seeing some good cricket and a chance that England can do this. So all the coverage on Test Match Special on BBC Sounds. You can get ball by ball on there.

22:10Right, Jimmy's had to go for a family occasion, not an emergency. Everything's fine, actually. It's the opposite. It's a family celebration. And we'll see him next time when we're doing Tailwinders and he'll be a sir, which is very exciting. I think it's like, oh, well, cheers, Jimmy. Cheers. Cheers, God. Match in Tendorka's joined. Wow. In and out. Next one in. Next cab off the rank. Hello. Hello. Hello. Quicks. A quick. How did a boycott Jimmy become a billionaire from posting videos? On Good, Bad, Billionaire. We're going to find out how the world's most popular YouTuber, Mr Beast, made his fortune.

22:47He's buried himself in a coffin for days. Counted to 100 ,000 on camera. And even recreated Squid Games, all in an attempt to go viral on the internet. But it all started when he gave a homeless man$10 ,000. So is he a philanthropist reshaping capitalism? Or is he just the king of the attention economy? Find out on Good Bad Billionaire. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Speed catch up with the England men in New Zealand situation, which is like, that is a long way to go for one game of cricket. The third T20 was washed out. It was a washout. Hope not. Hope not. It was. England took the series 1-0.

23:24The first match was also a washout. But positives. Some great batting. We saw Harry Brook and we saw Phil Soule absolutely nailing it. Basically, they hit the ball so far, it went, actually, they hit it off the island. He's now won seven of the eight T20s he's captain, which is, that's going well. encouraging signs ahead for the T20 World Cup in February or as my Welsh nan would say February so I imagine have you got a you've got something to say to Felix what's happening here you've got an answer to a question here you've got something you want to say to me well no I was going to come and do a quiz say it to his face then I was going to come and do a quiz but then we thought maybe roll over the quiz for next week yeah because I'm always being creatively muzzled by Sharky about the about the theme tunes for the quiz can't do can't copy a song can't use ai on the bbc apparently but could i ask the listeners yeah to come up with a theme tune for next week's quiz if i prep them now oh great question that's a great idea you probably could tell you the premise of the quiz absolutely 100 it's called um it's a brand new original quiz it's called send that up for review nice is it to do with reviews on things Amazon that would have been good we are taking a deep dive into Cricket Stadia and we'll be looking at TripAdvisor reviews of various stadiums and trying to work out which stadium you're at TripAdvisor send that up for review oh nice, yeah really nice that's great it immediately comes to mind is that Adele song send my love to your new lover send it upstairs for a review ha ha that could work okay i don't know i think i think sharky will create a muzzle that's the problem because it's a oh of course of course sorry oh my god oh my god i'm so sorry to offcom sorry offcom be original so i know not what i do it has to be original this is the problem yeah so if any talent is listeners well so hang on what we said whoa hang on are the rules of a bbc podcast that you're not allowed to sing i mean it does seem a bit mental to me i always feel like how come politicians can do what the f**k they want but we're not allowed to sing on a loosely cricket based podcast yeah so we can have sort of a president that can just lie exactly fine but we're not allowed to sing a happy song that's exactly on a podcast i i often think that there must be some sort of loophole if some of the things in the world are going on but we but the thing we're going to focus on is we can't sing on tailenders that's the thing that can't happen so well look maybe we've got to make it work to our advantage and that's that's how you get you've got to be creative in those parameters and these are our parameters so look we need help we need the listeners to stand up so go on then what else do we need to tell the listeners about matching if you could write it if you could send in a short theme tune for send that up to review that'd be great it's got to be original it's got to be original are they allowed so i I guess they're not allowed to sing and they can't use AI either.

26:36The listeners are as creatively muzzled as I am. If they can come up with something original based around that, that'd be great. You've got a week. The other question. Lovely, isn't it? Getting someone else to do your homework. The other question. Lovely feeling. Here is my homework. Felix asked me last week about why. What was the question? something about okay well that's a good start what I said was we were talking about the behind square rule on the next side and you could only have two fielders there or something and I thought I thought I know how you like to go yeah so basically it was down in it was the 1932-33 Ashes series and the gentleman's game is about to turn ugly okay England's captain Douglas Jardine and he couldn't work out how to stopped on Bradman.

27:32Jardine. And so he unleashes his fast bowlers, led by, his name was, it's a fearsome character called Harold Larwood. And they start pounding and pounding short balls into the batsman's ribs. At the same time, Jardine lines the leg side with a wall of fielders behind square leg. So just waiting for, they're desperately trying to fend off or get a little gloved catch. and the crowds booed players were hurt, someone smashed their head open Australia was furious there were whispers of a diplomatic crisis between the two countries the empire was collapsing and in the aftermath of all that chaos the MCC stepped in and they changed the laws.

28:17From that day on captains were no longer no more than two fielders were allowed behind behind Square on the leg side there's a line in the sand a rule thank you so a rule to make the game we will always be hard but never be heartless that's body line yeah very well explained that's good I know you like a little I know you like a cricket thing but you can put the phrase diplomatic incident inside matching when you're telling people I do like diplomatic incident in cricket yeah you do like you do do you think do you think that could still happen now yeah it's a nice story a diplomatic incident in cricket could that still happen would it ever get that high?

28:57Great question. Well, put it this way. I think they try it, don't they? They do try it, but I'm just saying put it this way. I think cricket might matter a little bit less than it did 100 years ago in people's psyche. And my anecdote to prove this is I've just got into the BBC and got in the lift with the producer of a six music show. She said, oh, I don't really like cricket, but you're doing ten ends, aren't you? I was like, yeah. And then I just thought in the lift journey, I was like, can you just name me one cricketer just out of interest and want to see what cricketer she said? I was sure she was going to say a cricketer, She said Andy Murray.

29:31So that's an insight into cricket's diplomacy levels at the moment politically. Cricket is incredibly niche these days, isn't it? It's like you said at the start of the show, Greg, we're all talking about it, but are we all talking about it? Is it just for cricket podcast we're talking about it? Because I'm not sure I've seen anyone else. I don't know if I've seen anyone else talk about it, actually. Yeah, I think actually the only... So it's 22 blokes plus Izzy Wong and Alex Hartley and Kate Cross are the only people that actually talk about cricket in the public domain. In the world, yeah. I actually think that might be true because...

30:17Are there more? Okay, and then you've got the people behind the scenes of cricket. So do you think there's more, do you think more people work in cricket than actually like and watch cricket? Great question. I think if you were to ignore, okay, minus India, right? Because that's like a religion. They do it properly. They actually love cricket. So if the world was, the cricket world didn't include India, I think there's more people that are employed by cricket than like and watch cricket.

30:54absolutely i mean what are you talking like you're saying in the world about 25 people like cricket is what you're saying no i'm talking about all the people that work for the ecb all the players all the so you're saying in the world 100 all those people you think in the whole world about apart from india there's about 125 people that actually like cricket

31:22I don't meet anyone that ever likes cricket I don't meet anyone who likes cricket they're like oh what's that podcast you're doing it's about cricket they go oh I don't know about that no one ever knows about it in fact to the point where this week on the breakfast show we've started doing a question now which is when we have a cricket did you hear this match in so we had this we had this question which was something about the women's world cup and then it was like they won England beat India blah blah blah but name any cricketer that's what I yeah and right so this caller it's funny that you mention that because this caller also this caller went she just went no no yeah just didn't and then I said okay well we've had this question before just say a person's name just make up a name and we'll check to see if they play cricket and she said Eric Dancer Eric Dancer and and eventually we found out that he did at some point play cricket for Devon there you go so you do know cricket and the crowd and the crowd went wild more honest more honest you do know a cricketer Eric Darnes yeah we all know Eric Darnes I immediately thought can I turn that into a quiz where we just say random names and work out if they've played cricket before yeah well I am so yeah if it's good enough for the breakfast show it's definitely good enough for Taylor no Okay Anyway Speaking of cricketers we didn't know existed Link, here we go More information on Cambodian player Phon Bunthian Who played 15 T20s For Cambodia Without scoring a single run or taking a single wicket He has only batted twice in that time Once at 10 and once at 11 And has faced a total of 7 balls Both times finishing on 0-0 out Gideon has emailed in.

33:15He's taken a break from printing Bibles and says, hi, or maybe it's Gideon Haig. Hello, Trail Finders. Go watch it. As someone who used to travel to Cambodia a fair bit for work, I was very excited to hear about the discovery of the phenomenon that is Phon Bunthian. Firstly, I think the pronunciation of the name should be Phon Bunthian with the bun said in a northern flat U with the emphasis on T. I can never get it when people write down a pronunciation thing. Sharky, you're northern. Am I fair enough? Yes. No, yes, you're fair enough. Bon bon tian. Bon bon tian. Bon, but he's put pon. Pon. Like pon de replay.

33:58Bon. Pon. Bon. Bon tian. So what's going on? Bon bon tian. Okay. Bon bon tian. What's a flat U? Bon bon tian.

34:13pon bun pon bun pon bun tian pon bun tian so that's from Yorkshire hello it's pon bun tian here Greg's doing everyone in Northern he's already done King Charles as a Geordie earlier, imagine you missed that, that was good now we've got pon bun tian pon bun tian no, anyway, whatever we'll find out how to say his name properly, otherwise it's rude secondly says Gideon I'm going to reach out to a Cambodian contact of mine to see if we can help find and he's just put PB so maybe let's just call him PB I'll report back go well Gideon go well cheers thank you for your personal best all we ask of you Gideon is your personal best and we give our personal bests to you who do you think we'll get on the podcast okay Oscar who do you think we'll get on the podcast first Pombantian or Sachin Sindoka oh Pombantian I think Pon Bantian yeah given that we've been asking Sachin Tendulkar for 8 years I think maybe it might be Pon Bantian alright one more email from about Pon Oscar and Sam are other tailenders who are heading to Cambodia very soon and they will keep looking out for the mysterious PB Sam also says the advert that I was trying to remember last week about paying for your front and get you back done free was for first glass windows in Chelmsford nice so that checks out actually because I was probably listening to Essex FM and thank you to the people that have got in touch with me telling me that Tempo was a business that went under a long time ago okay should we do some go Wells?