Little Yearns - The Second Innings

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0:30James Anderson:at Whole Foods Market. Odoo, providing tools for businesses across industries into one fully integrated platform. Whatever your business needs, Odoo is committed to providing it. Learn more at od00.com. Hello and welcome to TailEnders. Hello, thank you for having us on TailEnders. That's Felix White. We have Sir Jimmy Anderson. We also have Dame Machin-Tendulka, who is with us today. It's the second ever Little Yearns special. It's a good old-fashioned radio phone-in. Felix, can you explain what a Little Yearn is, please? Yes, exactly. Well, from the beginning of Taylor Lenders, the beginning of time almost, we've talked about how we fell in love with cricket, apart from Jimmy, obviously, who is absolutely elite at it.

1:19For the little things, we don't dream of hundreds and wickets and so on and so forth. We dream of things like you might have batted in South Africa and you're going off for lunch and your pads are a little bit wet because it's really hot. And you might just take them off at the boundary and just leave them there to dry. It's tiny little things like that. You might come on to bowl and all you might desire is Owen Morgan saying on comm somewhere that you are a classy operator as you run into bowl with shades on. It's tiny little yearns like that that we're looking for. so that's where we're at today and i always look forward to this episode yeah it's really nice nice

1:57James Anderson:also to have a phone in which isn't full of maniacs mad people racists or bigots it's just really it's just really lovely yeah funny tail enders who've got good hearts good souls and good taste in sport can i just quickly chuck one i thought of the other day out in really quickly um a little year and i've always had is in australia i don't know if jimmy's done this but I'd like to be playing for England. It could be a warm-up game, but I'm in Australia. Could have been a bit more warm-up games, actually. Are you at Lilac Hill? Yeah, I'm at Lilac Hill. But the crowd behind are quite beer-y, quite loud.

2:34And I'm coming on to bowl quite soon. And I'm going through my warm-ups. And they start imitating my warm-ups. And then I realise they're imitating my warm-ups. And then I start doing the old double left, double right. And then they all start doing it with me. And we have a simpatico relationship. where they know I'm a good time as well as an elite international bowler.

2:55James Anderson:Yeah, lovely. I also had one through the ashes, which was I wanted to be opening the batting and get distracted by a light or something shining from the stands or a steward moving behind the bowler's arm and then waiting for him to clamber over the seats. Meanwhile, I'm sharing a joke with the slip cord and the bowler and I'm just rolling my eyes. I'm rolling my eyes and going, oh, what is going on here? Then I take my guard. Then I hit the first ball for four. Is that too much to ask? It's not until the last bit. That is too much to ask. James, welcome to TailEnders. You're live. Your call's live to air.

3:39James Anderson:What would you like to say on LBC? Leading Britain's conversation. Thank you for having me on Little Yearns. You're very welcome for being on Little Yearns. You're on with Greg James O 'Brien. what would you like to say i'm doing my best not to say anything that might get you or me cancelled i think it's probably the best best way to go i think yeah i'll just be sitting here rubbing my beard being very clever what would you like to say right so my little year and i don't have a bit of runs you've got so it starts with i've been a bit of bad form and i'm at the crease and i've sort of got my way up to sort of 15 20 runs you know it's noted by the commentators that i'm in but i need to sort of crack one and get and get a big score so next ball up i think what i play is a really good sort of cover drive um something doesn't sound quite right so all of a sudden the commentator is not sure overcome the uh the slips give me a bit of yep but i could look at my bat and go oh do you know what oh it's not my play hold up hold up my bat guess what the bat's broken so so first of all a little roll to the eyes you know it's not it's not me it's my bat and then And there's probably a double pronged sort of little year into this.

4:46James Anderson:So the first thing you do is you'll see you wave over to the pavilion. Dear colleagues, friends, can you bring over a new bat for me? Obviously, you know, in village cricket, I play at absolute village level. And you're lucky if you get, you know, a Schlesinger, what sort of V100 that, you know, doesn't have a handle in rubber. It's just got that string around it. um so so i'm waving over and the first thing we yearn is to bring out not one but six bats so we've got i know yeah i like that so and i sort of matt potts and shred bushire running out with uh with the bats so the first bit is i'm professional cricket because i've got six bats yeah and then when they as i approach they present to me six bats and the second little yearn is of the six i'm going straight for one so i'm not thinking about i'm not gonna have a look each individual bat i'm a professional cricketer i know which of these bats is my bat so i've got this one bat and i'm gonna hold it this is my bat you know matt parts and show me show again you've got you've got five bats here i know i'm gonna i'm gonna stick with this bat so in my mind for some reason minus labashane stood next to me give me a bit of jip he's looking at the other bats trying to persuade him otherwise to pick another bat but yeah i'm a professional cricketer i know what bat I want um so yeah I take the one bat leave the guys to take my other five bats back then straw back to decrease next ball for four runs just a little nod to say yeah in the bats it wasn't me yeah pick the right one yeah it's nice there's also a lovely that that's a really brilliant little year and James that's something that presentation of the bats is great it's also lived in my head as well and I've I've not really thought of it but those moments are really lovely to watch because you just that's just that's just like the super rich isn't it in cricket terms she's like you brought out six identical wonderful bats which cost thousands of pounds the best willow and then what i also like just to add to that i wonder if you ever thought about this i like the idea i've seen this quite a few times where the slips might come up like a labashane type character might come up and try it out as well oh lovely he'll try the back lift yeah he'll like oh that feels good that's nicely weighted that's really that's a that's a lovely little year and that that doesn't happen at village standard you're right you're lucky you're lucky if you get anyone volunteering to give you their bat at all jimmy did you have a selection of bats when you were playing for england or was it just one and then you'd borrow someone else's borrow someone else's did how many bats did you have in your bag then i would generally travel with three bats because the likelihood of me batting long enough to break one is very slim but I'd just have three but one of my little yearns when I was growing up was calling for gloves, doing the old sign with the gloves but again I travel with two pairs, I don't think I've ever called for gloves, maybe once when I got 80 at Trent Bridge but I do remember being 12th man once and having to take bats out, I've been that person running the eight bats on, once I snuck in, do you remember, have you seen the autograph bats, like full size that are made of MDF.

7:58I brought one of them out as well. So like... And then this piece of plywood or something. To who? I can't remember. I was just bored doing 12th man. I don't see much 12th man. That's really... Let's bring out a carrot. Jim, can I ask a question? Is there a point in your career where you should have to stop knocking your bat in and someone else does it for you? I can't remember a player knocking a bat in. Really? The only thing players will do now is they'll graze a ball along the edge to try and round off the edges of the bat. So they're not like completely square. They'll just try and round them off a little bit.

8:39But generally bats are good to go when you get them. Well, for the professionals anyway.

8:45James Anderson:A lot of them are pre-knocked in these days. It's a shame really. the days of standing them in linseed oil in a little bucket are over lovely smell my best stick it by the radiator to dry out as a as a teenage boy my bedroom smell of farts and linseed oil that's that was it that's it that's that's that's a real that's and if you're a cricket fan that's you relate to that if you're an old cricket fan of course is that a true smell of cricket is it Greg? That's the real that's the true smell of cricket. That dressing room feel at home. Greg's going to bring out a range of candles but just farts at Lindsay Doyle just so you can get that.

9:31I'll have a chat with Gwyneth Paltrow.

9:38James Anderson:James, thank you for being on Tealenders. What a fantastic little yearn. Go well and thanks for being. Can I say a quick go well to my brother. So he would hate for me to be a Tealender before me. He would hate for me to come in and not mention and give him a go well. And to apologise on this format for the time in 2013, it turned out at the Oval fifth Ashes test against the Aussies, it turned out I'd given him gastroenteritis. It's the one thing that he has never forgiven before. And I want to use this format to formally apologise for that moment. So a go well for him would be great. For your general cricket and sadness, what's his name?

10:16James Anderson:Mike Fisher. Mike Fisher. Well, Jimmy, can you say go well and get well for 2013? Go well and get well, even though we're 13 years after the incident. Hope you're feeling better. Cheers. Thanks, James. Go well, James. Cheers. Next caller is Scott. Hello. Hi, Scott. Welcome to DellEnders. Hello. Go well, cheers. Hello. Thank you for having me on this Little Yearn special. You're welcome for having us on the Little Yearn special. special um scott welcome to the tail enders podcast welcome to the little yearns special you're on with sir jimmy anderson dame matching tendorka me and felix as well so scott where are you calling from please i'm calling from milton keen's ah yeah in the great bloom and everything but yeah having a great afternoon lovely so are you are you working are you working from home and you're just in your this is technically a meeting i am yeah i'm on do not disturb on teams at the moment just you know pretend i'm doing something very important which of course i am but little do they know what i actually i am doing yeah yearning you're about to tell one of the sports greatest ever players your little yearn yeah yeah what you're yearning from home what what are you like to tell everyone what's the yearn that you have from home?

11:42So my little yearn sort of harks back to that weird sort of COVID era particularly I remember one T20 World Cup in Abu Dhabi in the UAE where bowlers weren't allowed to give their caps to the umpires so you'd often see players with five or six hats stacked on top of each other on their heads I seem to remember Temba Bovuma at one point having four or five on there so i'd quite like to maybe catch a skyer while simultaneously keeping the five hats maybe throw a rogue floppy in there as well just perfectly on top of my head that would be that would just be my dream sorry scott when so when the ball comes to you are you wearing the five or six assorted hats on your head or are you juggling them all no keeping them on top balancing them on your head or catching it oh it's great

12:35James Anderson:it's really great class yeah that's it says it says responsibility i'm a team man i'm taking one for the team i don't mind even getting infected for this catch that's what it says it's so funny so that's because and that's how mad we all went isn't it in the pandemic the because I guess the umpires were in their own bubble. The team were in their own bubble. So someone thought, oh, Jimmy Anderson's hat might give Mireille Erasmus COVID. So you've, so Joss Butler, you've got to wear this as well, which is really funny. Wow. That's, it's an amazing, it's an amazing weird memory. Jimmy, what do you, what are the?

13:21It was quite weird how many hats actually ended up getting.

13:24James Anderson:Yeah, I feel like I remember Joe Root wearing about four at slip. But Jimmy, you were one of the cricket key workers when you were key working and playing cricket and keeping everything going in the pandemic. What are your memories of that mad time? Or have you moved on from, have you forgotten about them because it was trauma? I try not to think of it too much. It wasn't a great time. But I remember a lot of long hair in that England team. I remember Joe Root's hair being quite long. well I said to you at the time your hair's never looked better actually and you disagree with that and I still say that you're wrong yeah I'm not a fan but I never I just remember handing my cap to Chris Waltz quite a lot and he'd fold it up like took the peak into the back of the cap and put it behind his or down his trousers sticking out of his trousers at the back okay which again I don't think is particularly hygienic but I didn't get Covid from it so that's a positive but you did get dysentery so Scott that's what you're after there is that you're sort of, you want there to be some sort of meme as well as you taking an amazing catch you want it to be a meme and being like oh my god yeah I want to get on to the cricket the crick-tock Scott, what's your surname Scott?

14:51James Anderson:Okay, yeah. Oh, Scott Fawkes there with a super catch. And he's done it. He's done it with bloody three hats on his head. Wow, what a guy. What a character this guy is. What a great character. One of the characters of the game. That's what they'd be saying about you. Mattson's just said Scotty Fourcaps, which has gone unnoticed, which is genius. You say Scotty Fourcaps. Yeah. Scotty Fourcaps. Yeah, Scotty Fourcaps. There we go. Just very sweetly whispered it down the microphone. well Scott thank you so much for being on on tail enders do you have before you go do you have any questions for the great Jimmy Anderson I nearly said the late great Jimmy Anderson there but he very very much looks alive the great Jimmy Anderson who's taking a sip of tea well so slightly on the spot here I guess but I've just come back from Australia actually so I'd like to know Jimmy's favourite off the field memories from Australia what he enjoyed doing out maybe not that noosa aside and all that kind of yeah what did you enjoy traveling around australia yeah i i love australia i actually me and broadie have been texting a bit throughout the noosa bit because we tagged on a trip to noosa just me and him and his mate three of us in an airbnb at the back end of a series did you a lovely four days just strolling down the beach with stewart hand in hand but um yeah i i loved i honestly i love i love australia like the place is amazing but it's just a different beast when the ashes is on because you're just getting it from all angles and you don't feel like you can do anything you don't feel like you can really leave your hotel without getting scrutinized so it is a tough place to be if you're not winning but i do love the place yeah scott were you there for the ashes obviously so my partner's actually australian and it's quite a funny story because we weren't actually going out that long and she told me she was going back for christmas and i was like maybe that sounds like a good not bad idea to come and join you to be honest let's make this serious it all worked out quite well to be fair free accommodation see a couple of the days of the test brilliant it was a yeah did he go to the games yeah it was at adelaide day two and three so that was the 41 degree day which was brutal right but yeah live to tell the tale scott thank you for being on tailenders i'm sorry that it's raining in milton keen's but you have brightened our day with your amazing uh little yearn thanks for yearning from home and we will say a massive go well to you, Scott.

17:16James Anderson:Go well. Go well. Cheers. I like a quizzical cheers. Cheers.

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17:55James Anderson:let's move on to becky now becky hello becky good to see you hello you're on the phone in the little yearns special where are you uh where are you beaming in from from today? South East London. Oh really, same here actually. That's where I'm beaming in from. We can see in the background you've got some high viz. Are you a fire warden or is that cycling gear? No, that's running gear. Okay, nice. Been for a run today in the rain? I did. I got very soggy. Yeah, that can happen. Becky, what else have you been doing today apart from waiting to talk to Jimmy Anderson on Teams? Work. What do you do? I make radio ads.

18:37Do you? Yeah. That's interesting. Do you need someone to write your jingles? I'm pretty, pretty good. If anything comes up, Matchin, that you would be suited for, I know where you are, definitely.

18:56James Anderson:Matchin, have you ever done any radio adverts for shoes? Not radio ads, no. But I think I'm getting the hang of writing jingles now. I think I could do it. What radio station do you think would buy, would get advertising from, like Roller Soul, what's the best place for it? What's a good brand alignment? I reckon that's a heart. Heart, isn't it? Yeah, I think heart is great. The girls going out on the town, little Prosecco on a Friday, hen do situation. Definitely. I think also Magic at the Musicals. Oh, yeah, that's good. Okay. Becky, what's your favourite radio ad of all time? Oh, God. Felix, I don't know if there's an answer to that.

19:38Come on, there must be. I'm going to like delve into the archives and the ad that I think has stuck with me the most is the Hastings insurance ad. What's that? You've got to tell me, I don't remember the Hastings. They have the best jingle ever. Go on. Well, the number is 08456. 100001066

20:06James Anderson:yes because of the battle oh my god I forgot about that come on yeah of course it was so whoever made that decision it's in there I also similarly I think childhood impact of a jingle Sheila's Wheels still in there as well Sheila's Wheels Sheila's Wheels It was car insurance for women. Yeah. Right. Sheila's wheels. Yeah, girls get down to Sheila's wheels. And it was like an Australian concept. Because obviously Aussie women are Sheila's. Aside from advertising, what else do you like about cricket?

21:00um tees is my favorite part about cricket i'll be honest yeah there's there's not really any other sport that you stop in the middle of the game so like have a full sit down lunch with probably multiple courses yeah so yeah probably yeah on the last episode we were

21:22James Anderson:talking about the captain of the italian t20 men's cricket team wayne madsen who is slightly confusing he's actually south african but we were talking about maybe that italy would have the best tea and lunches out of all cricketing nations can't think of any better what are you imagining there greg are you imagining like goodfellas like like meat like slow cook meatballs um yeah i'm expect and I would expect this I would expect a big tomatoey pasta spaghetti pasta with meatballs obviously I would also expect lots of pizza I would expect also a lot of red wine and a lot of focaccia and a lot of gelato and like lovely coffee and little you're not playing any cricket after that no much like the rest of Italy

22:17James Anderson:All Italy needs to do is just play a little bit of cricket, but mainly just keep doing what they're doing, but just add a bit of cricket into it. And I think that's the perfect country. Anyway, Becky, can you give us your little yearn, please? What have you got for us? I would like to score a ton. And then when I'm celebrating said ton and I take my helmet off, I want my helmet hair to be as good as Joe Roots. oh yes okay that's do you think that's jimmy you're closest to this do you think that's a consideration do you think that he puts his because i know that when i put my bicycle helmet on i put it on in a certain way as to minimize the impact on the style so when i take it off i know exactly which way to take it off do you think that in the moment thank you for your honesty when he's getting a hundred thank you that's all right you're welcome for my very brave in the moment is brave in the moment do you think he's taking his helmet off to say i've just scored 100 but is he doing it in a specific way so as to preserve the hair i feel like he it it just happens naturally for him i think he's one of the fortunate ones because you get some people when they sweat in their helmet especially you know older guys who where their hair is probably not as thick as it used to be and the sweat and it's it looks like an x-ray um you know it's like an x-ray it's not great but i think joe root's just one of the lucky ones i'm fortunate that I knew I'd never have to take my helmet off when I batted, so I could just plonk it on.

23:45But actually, because we always wear a cap, I did think that I had to put the cap on in a certain way so that when I take it off to bowl, my hair is not... It's so interesting because you're on TV all the time. So you must be... Are you thinking that? Like, oh, I'm going to be on screen all day? It's actually quite interesting. Yeah, you know when there's a replay, you know when the big replay of the last book, I'm like, oh my God, my hair looks terrible. Don't care that I just got it for six. Oh my God.

24:16James Anderson:Or bowled an amazing delivery and got, you know, Coley out. He's like, oh, look at the, you can see the hairline. But I was going to, similar to that, I was going to ask Jimmy, because part of your walking back to your mark routine was just, just what it is. If you look at what it is, it was moving the quiff back, wasn't it? Just to check that it was in the right area for the next. Was it moving it back or was it moving it across to cover my widow's peak? The temple. Oh, so it's moving it back and across. The old ball patches. Right. So that's in a way, that's your trigger movement. Yeah. Back and across.

24:52James Anderson:Back and across. Yeah, back and across. Becky, when you say Joe Root's hair, I can't actually picture it. Is it that it's like sweaty and it looks like he's put energy in or is it that it's just still preserved and perfect as he would have liked it before you put the helmet on? no it's somehow like it's a little bit messy but in a really kind of artful way yeah yeah yes yeah like every time he takes his helmet off which obviously happens fairly often runs like literally the first thing i think of is how does his hair look that good yeah he's been like toiling away getting all his runs for hours and hours and hours.

25:33James Anderson:Yeah. And then he takes his helmet off. He doesn't even do anything to it. And it just looks good. But it's a life of getting hundreds, isn't it? And he's done that 41 times now. Yeah, well, maybe it's a gift from the cricketing gods that he's so good that an extra level of kind of goodness is that his hair looks great as well. It deserves it. yeah you get the hair you you just you get the hair you deserve and he deserves really good robust sexy hair you know but it's really but everything when joe the thing is that when joe's batting and everything everything's in rhythm everything's clicking into place so obviously this whole body is yeah is reacting to what's happening including the hair it's going look the hair's getting 100 today as well i'm part of this i'm part of the show exactly you know i was just imagining there is that you know how cricketers always get hairy growth programs when often when they retired if you scored a lot of runs in a helmet there's no nothing to say that you couldn't get an infrared hair regrowth system inside of a helmet so you could be batting oh yeah the infrared thing yeah so if you were really good at batting you could be like okay i'm going to be batting for like six hours today and you have a sort of laser treatment inside it so you can be really good at batting and growing back your hair simultaneously it's just an idea i'm amazed that they weren't more like helmets off and the rugs like stuck in the top of the helmet i'm sweating because i sweated the glue off oh when the hairs come off the top you know like when you have um when you have your hair dyed and stuff you could actually similarly you've got a lot of times you're gonna if you're gonna score a big hundred you could have a few hours with all the foil in and actually that could just yeah so when you finish batting you you've got lovely dyed hair or you could you the helmet could actually be that bowl thing they put over old ladies isn't it for a is it for a perm is that what it is yeah and just instead of reading the paper you're instead of reading the paper you're scoring 100 against pakistan i don't i don't mind that at all i think that's a really nice idea didn't we speculate the opposite way though do you think it would go the opposite way in that if you started doing that you then would not be batting for six hours you'd actually be getting and a golden duck, you'd be cursing yourself.

27:52James Anderson:And you'd have to walk off the field with, like, foiling hair. Well, you'd do that for hours, and then you'd take your hair off, your hair's singed. You're like, your hair's like... Yeah, it'd bring superstitions to another level, though, wouldn't it? Because if someone gets 100 having, like, hair dye in their hair, they'd have to do it every time they're battered. Exactly. You'd be none left. Do you think it would have worked for your frosted tips, Jimmy? Oh, lovely question, Becky. Didn't bat long enough. But if I could bat, then yeah, it would have worked perfectly. We'll never know. I've got a great photo, Jimmy.

28:25James Anderson:Do you remember when you went fully blonde? Yeah, I tried to go white. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, I don't know. That was a great era. What it's called? Yeah, like Silver Fox. Silver Fox sort of vibe. You're trying to go... Platinum. Oh, platinum. Yeah. But it sort of started going yellow and I just looked like an idiot. I thought you looked like David Byrne. Well, I did when it was white. I thought you looked great. it was like a mixture between David Byrne and Gary Barlow I'm not sure that's a good thing I don't think that's the look I was going for Greg lots of hits between them though lots of hits between them Becky thanks so much for your time lots of food for thought there Becky that's really been that's really opened up a lot of ideas actually that's really really we really enjoyed chatting to you Becky have a great rest of the day and um oh hang on It says here on my notes, James O 'Brien would never have forgotten this, but Greg James O 'Brien has on the phone in.

29:22James Anderson:You went to see some Ashies cricket. You've just come back from Australia. I did. Oh, no way. Yeah. Oh, so what did you see? I went to day one and day two of Melbourne. So the whole test.

29:37And day one and day three. Yeah. Yeah. And you saw... Tell us about Melbourne. Was it a great atmosphere? Was it a different feeling to be there on? Obviously, people talk about how massive the MCG is. But until you're there, I think it's impossible to kind of understand the scale of it. To me, it felt bigger than Wembley. I know they are pretty similar in terms of capacity. But I think the fact that it is like a fully circular ground and it just goes up and up and up. And we were in the top tier on Boxing Day. so we were very far away but yeah it was amazing and in both Melbourne and Sydney we ended up sitting near Australians who were commenting about the fact that there were so many England fans there and there was like we were trying to estimate and we reckon between 30 and 40 percent of the fans there and both Melbourne and Sydney were that's amazing which is crazy yeah um so yeah obviously when it was going well in Melbourne it was brilliant but yeah it was it was ridiculous I like as a 48 hour period of time was bonkers like we were walking back from the MCG after day one fuming about how ridiculous the day had been being like I can't believe they've done that and then the next day 24 hours later we were doing the same walk back buzzing because we'd seen an England win yeah which like obviously you kind of hope that you're gonna see something when you go out and do that trip but many people have done it and not seen an England win at all so the fact that we got to see that was definitely like such a treat and I think obviously having seen that and been there made it easier to take the fact that the rest of well what we saw in Sydney was a bit rubbish you did get to see um you got you get to see Root take his helmet off you saw his helmet hair no because that was day two so we had the ridiculous thing of rain in Sydney in the middle of summer which maybe we should have expected and I was trying not to look at the forecast thinking if I don't look at this then maybe it won't happen but yeah covers going on for that afternoon session oh yeah slightly early finish as well that was a shame we're not gonna see this yeah so on day two I actually went for a walk in the blue mountains we were sat on a train watching him going it's a ton so oh poetic but yeah no it was it was amazing I feel very lucky that I got to see that and it was a trip that has been planned for a long time like we talked about going for the COVID impacted series which obviously nobody got to go for so yeah as a bucket list trip and also just being able to say I was at that boxing day test was amazing but I got a text from my mum who was like still in the UK at like half three UK time where she'd woken up not being able to sleep and check the score and she was like oh I shouldn't have done that I think I'm gonna have to stay awake now I just stayed awake the whole of the rest of the test well it was day two so the rest of day two to the end of it and I was like well it was a dangerous game checking yeah but she was also texting me going don't reply to my message don't take your eyes off it i'm watching don't worry i am but yeah your mum it was sort of your mum

33:31James Anderson:summed up the ashes with that one phrase which is oh i shouldn't have checked it yeah that's it that's the oh i shouldn't have checked that's the entire problem of with all of us becky really nice to chat to you. Thanks for giving us an insight into that win in Melbourne and I'm so glad you had a great trip. It was a long time coming and it was worth doing. Yeah, definitely. And thanks for being on Little Yearns on TailEnders. Go well. Cheers.

34:01James Anderson:I love Becky. What great, I've got to say, what great listeners TailEnders has got. Great calling again. Good people. Love Little Yearns. Love a calling. So let's have one. We're yearning a living. Let's have one more from Ben and then we'll let everyone get on with their lives. Go, cheers. Ben says, I want to be the person in the Sky TV box who, in a huge run chase, when it looks like the team chasing is going to make it, changes the graphic at the bottom from India needing seven wickets to win to England requiring 58 runs to win. I've always thought about this person or vice versa. When the team looks like they will bowl out the team chasing a lower score, the power in the change is something i feel is massively understated for the viewers watching but just shows that the flow of the match has shifted in favor of the massive underdog it is pure theater says ben that's a great point sorry just repeat that it's changing the scoreboard there was so you know in a run chase or not a run chase so in a test match in particular jimmy jimmy you can explain because obviously you feel that on the on the field but it's it suddenly changes from runs to wickets or wickets to rise.

35:08James Anderson:Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it's basically if one team's ahead, they'll go, Australia need three wickets to win. Yeah. But then if England get within 20, they'll swap it to England need 20 runs to win. Yeah, yeah, brilliant. And that is a decision. But sometimes do they not have both on sometimes? Yeah, they do. They do. Yeah, I guess. But it tends to be, I guess a classic example in recent years would be Headingley 2019, where it would have been for ages Australia need two wickets and then it changed from that to England need 14 to win or whatever it might be yes Ben that's a really good one I'm sure if you look on the Sky website there might be that job I think I much prefer that I do like that I think I love seeing at the bottom of the screen what to win or you know wickets or runs what can f*** right off is the win predictor that needs to stay well away let's just let's just have the stats and we'll be the judge yeah yeah it's so true yeah you're right there you've hit upon something because I don't think that WinViz is as good as they think it is no it's really not so what a little robot has just gone I think Pakistan are going to win I don't give a f*** what you think mate this is cricket it we know we know what can happen in this game we know that it's unlikely and that's why we like it so shush all right having a go at artificial intelligence as we should so thank you for listening to this little year and special it's been really nice to chat to our lovely callers and we want to do more of these we'd love to get yours and we've we've have we have got hundreds of them and they're so so good so tailenders at bbc.co.uk please send them our way with the subject little yearns just to help Sharknado out and we'll be back on tailenders next week thanks very much go well cheers