Rated by Greg: Liam Livingstone

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0:47BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. Hello and welcome to Tailenders. Hello and thank you for having us on Tailenders, your weekly loosely cricket-based podcast. oh i like how you're getting into that thank you so much that's quite a good tag i think although we do stumble when it's not weekly i'm trying to differentiate us from the slurry and i will use the word slurry of other cricket and podcasts slurry yeah i don't know is that even a word that's that's that's how i feel about it everyone else is just slurry i'm doing that well this is g-force greg james we have felix white you just heard there talking about slurry and we have uh england and the world's greatest and most successful ever fast bowler jimmy anderson hello hello go well cheers later we will be joined by matching tendorka but first we have a very special guest that we've been trying to get on this podcast for a very very long you have well i have because he comes highly rated by me for many many years it's well overdue this appearance liam livingston welcome to tail enders thank you i think you're probably my only fan in the world hey well this is it this is what i back i backed you from day one my friend from day of it one quite day one wow that one ish close enough mr and mrs livingstone and greg

2:22liam are you aware of how much you're rated on this podcast by me i have heard a few things a few people have mentioned it i've been tagged in a few things so yeah i feel like i should say thank you you're welcome that's all I wanted that's all I ever wanted that's it Liam Livingstone thanks for being on Tailenders well this all came about because we were doing a it was at the end of the season or end of year we were saying who's going to have a great next season basically and this bunch of bellends decided that my shout of Liam Livingstone wasn't quite up to scratch actually not a bunch of bellends one bellend in particular one of the best bowling bellends of all time jimmy took exception to the fact that i said that you were going to be having a great whatever it was 2023 or something and jimmy what did you say something like i have no idea but i i feel like the the issue i had had with it was you were like predicting a big future when he'd already played for five years and done really well.

3:30And he had multiple England caps. Yeah. Played for England. Yeah. Wasn't really like shot in the dark, was it? Yeah. Do you know who I rate? Rahul Dravid.

3:43You're in good company, Lin. You're in good company. I rate him. But look, look what happened. But you only won the IPL for the first time this year. So I was onto something. You were. you'd seen it into the future yeah thanks very much so anyway welcome to the podcast thank you we can we can mute the other two if you like how's the how's the summer been feeling how's it how's it all going it's been good actually obviously i had a really good ipl finished to the ipl came back went straight into the t20 blast playing with jimmy really enjoyed that unfortunately got injured halfway through that which was quite annoying had a few weeks off and then that led into the 100 which has been great I absolutely love the 100 I don't know why but it honestly it's my favorite three or four weeks of the summer I just I feel like it the crowds are just full of kids who are absolutely loving cricket that I feel like five years ago they probably wouldn't have wouldn't have been so yeah I've loved playing in the 100 obviously didn't quite make it to the to the playoffs which was a bit disappointing but yeah I've loved the last sort of month or so and then we've got a quarterfinal on Saturday as well so it's not quite over just yet hopefully got another two weeks left but yeah I've enjoyed it.

5:01You were saying Liam interestingly just before we went on that you like the format of the 100 you like it just like how it rolls out on the pitch. Yeah and I have no explanation why yeah it's not massively different to T20 cricket it's only 20 balls difference but yeah I don't really know why I really like it but I do I feel like the game's a little bit shorter which obviously is but the pace of play is much quicker which gets the game finished quicker but yeah I just really I don't know what Jimmy thinks but I just really enjoy enjoy the crowds the crowds are great but I enjoy the format the way it's all set out yeah I have no explanation why but I just really enjoy it I've got an explanation it's probably because you're smashing a ball everywhere and going about 10 runs a ball personally that might be why I I don't know why I like this, but I just do.

5:48Do you enjoy being captain? Yeah, I did actually. Yeah, I feel like fielding can be a little bit boring sometimes and you're just sort of waiting for something to happen. Whereas when you're captain, you're always involved in the game. So yeah, I've really enjoyed it. We had a great group of lads, which always makes things easier. So yeah, I just enjoyed always being involved in the game and being able to bowl at the easy times, which is a great thing about being captain. someone gets two wickets and then two new batters you just think 100 % yeah I'll have five now wait for another couple of wickets have another five take my cap one thing I'm not is stupid yeah I like really really short boundaries when I'm batting that's a really good bit of the hundred I've really got into the sort of rhythm of the hundred a bit more this season since stepping back as one of the co-chairs of Overland Invincibles, I've actually been able to just enjoy it as cricket without the stress and the strain of having to go down and do the team talks and, you know, having sleepless nights about whether or not the players are going to play and whether, oh my God, there's so much to think about when you're co-chairs.

6:56Isn't that right, Fee? But I've really, I've liked it as a, because... It's all right, don't worry. It's probably a delivery. Go and get it. Yeah, leave it. Go and get it. Do you know what... Is he in Nando's? No, it's not. I knew you'd come up with something like that. It's actually alignment sticks for golf. That's exactly what it is. Let me see if it is. You're going to go and miss it. Go and get your alignment sticks. Alignment sticks. Again, live proof that cricketers would rather be golfers and like that more. I've got a query of alignment sticks. There we are. Alignment sticks. Come on, unpack them.

7:39Let's do an unboxing. I think in the back of Liam's shop, that's also a coffee maker. This is our thing. No, it's not. They're flowers. Look at that. Yeah, they're flowers I got my missus. They're not actually. They're flowers that my missus has got me to take home to my mum and my nan, so I look like a great bloke. I could lie, but I won't. Here we go. Talk us through alignment sticks, Timmy. Have you got alignment sticks? Get it on socials. There we are. Let's do that. I mean, it looks like a curtain rail. Yeah, I probably should have used a curtain rail. It would have been cheaper.

8:20What's an alignment stick? Good question. I actually don't know, but I've seen it online and I feel like it makes you hit the ball straighter. Does it, Jim? Yeah. Well, because golf is similar to cricket where it's like side on, isn't it? You side on to the ball to where you're hitting. Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah. so it's not not always that easy to align yourself like your feet point in the same directions your shoulders and where you want the ball to go so the sticks help your practice for that what they they point the other they point in a parallel way type thing just so you know yeah right supposedly yeah make sure the ball's straight they're just sticks then yeah that's all they are they're plastic white sticks that you can sell for more money because they're alignment sticks i think i might go into the alignment sticks business that is literally all they are if it's just sticks sticks everywhere flog them to cricketers you rate yeah liam are you as good at golf as you should be um how good should he be no he should be extremely good but a lot of cricketers say when like when the ball's not moving it's harder to hit a lot of cricketers say yeah i don't really know why i could be much better at golf and i feel like there's going to be a time where I'm going to devote a lot of time to golf and I'm going to become better but at the moment it's so much fun just putting a ball on a tee and trying to hit it as far as you can but that's not the way to be good at golf unfortunately range hitting always yeah Liam Livingston never not range hitting literally yeah treating every hole like a driving range well you obviously you're you're investing money into your golf game which is uh getting better yeah into your future.

9:58Yeah. Yeah. Well, Jimmy managed it sort of doing it at the same time as being one of the greatest ever bowlers. I mean, he just he just sort of dedicates his life to either cricket or golf. Even if the Dalai Lama is knocking on the door, he's like, no, I've got to do my alignment sticks. I actually find it remarkable with Jimmy because you play golf with him and he swings a golf club right-handed like one of the greatest cricketers I've ever seen. Weird, isn't it? And then he goes and bats left-handed in cricket. Yeah. What? And reverse sweeps everything and hits everything right-handed. So I am adamant that Jimmy is batting the wrong way around.

10:35Yes. You're not the first to say it, was it? It was Tres Gothic, wasn't it, who tried it out and tried to make you into a right-hander? Yeah, it's happened a few times. I feel like we talked about it a lot on the podcast as well. Yeah, but I do notice... I can't hit a cricket ball. I think it's just the thing about the moving ball. Because the ball's still on the tee or on the ground, I can hit that. Yeah. I can't hit a moving ball. If you'd have had your England career again and you made a deal and you said, I'll bat right-handed, but the ball must not be moving, how many runs do you think you'd have scored over your career?

11:08What's the question? It's just on a tee. If the ball was steady. Yeah, but they just make a special dispensation because you're Jimmy Anderson. They're like, okay, we'll put it on a tee. How's he getting out then? Yeah, well, it was plastic cones. I'd be the leading run scorer in world cricket. Amazing. World test his quote. And to answer your question, Fee, he's getting out court or he could miss it. Yeah, or LBW. He still managed to get LBW. He'd do well to miss it. LBW, yeah, from a static ball. I could still believe it. At first, actually. I wouldn't put it past him. Yeah, let's have a look at that.

11:39Oh, dear.

11:44Liam, when was the last time you played in the same team as Jimmy? A couple of weeks ago in the Blast. Okay, what's it like? What's he like as a teammate? Don't really want to blow smoke up his ass, but he's actually been great fun. He can usually be pretty miserable. Some rich coming from you. But honestly, I've never seen him smile so much in a summer. But fair play to him. I think he's finally realised how much more enjoyable white ball cricket is. And being able to just run out there, bowl four overs, usually four with a new ball for him. But yeah, being able to just go out and enjoy playing white ball cricket, running around in the field in front of good crowds.

12:21Yeah, he's actually done really well at it, which you would expect. He's obviously one of the best we've ever seen in Red Bull cricket. But yeah, I know the lads have absolutely loved having him play. I really enjoyed playing with him, to be fair. So yeah, fair play to him. We actually haven't asked that question yet, Jim. I hadn't thought about it. The lack of workload compared to Red Bull cricket. Are you enjoying that, Jim? Or do you want to bowl more when you get out there? No, I don't want to bowl more. But the hardest bit is the amount of games. it's like you still got to manage your workload a little bit as a bowler because we had a situation we took Liam talked about him getting injured so we played a game at Northampton on this Friday night half six start we travel back it's get back to Old Trafford at 3 a.m.

13:08because of traffic and then we had a game the next day at 3 p.m. I think it was yeah and then it's mad he gets injured there's a hamstring there's no surprise that that happens after that sort of schedule and Saki Mahmood as well got injured in that game so it's like I still feel like you've got to try and manage your your workloads a little bit through that yeah it's mad Liam since we I rated you highly on this podcast you've um you've done some amazing things you've done you've played in the IPL Big Bash PSL SA20 the 100 obviously we've talked about that you've capped in England you won a T20 World Cup as well obviously played for Lanx I want to talk about Rob Key do you need me to have a word with Rob Key as your biggest fan to tell him that it's an absolute disgrace that you're not in the white ball squad no absolutely not I don't think that would uh that was I'm ready for it if you want me to fight on your behalf I will no no no I think um yeah to be fair I didn't even say that he he needed to ring me I just said that I hadn't heard anything so I didn't know where I was that was actually all that was said so So yeah, I think we leave that one there.

14:20But that is not over, right? Because you've got a lot of your career left. So what's in your sights? What are you going to be working towards? Yeah, hopefully. I would love to play for England again. I absolutely loved it. There's nothing better than playing for your country. But at the same time, if it doesn't happen for whatever reason, there's still so many opportunities around the world to play cricket. And there's so many tournaments around the world. And yeah, you can kind of map out a sort of franchise year, which is a lot of cricket still, but you probably get to spend a little bit more time at home.

14:53But the tournaments are just as enjoyable. Like if you go out to, I don't know, South Africa in January, there's a UAE before Christmas, there's cricket now in America and obviously the IPL as well. So there's still loads of cricket to play. I would just love to, yeah, I guess it's up to me. As long as I'm scoring runs and taking wickets and winning games of cricket, then that's all I can do. And ultimately it's not down to me, is it? It's somebody else's choice. I'm just a player, so I'll keep concentrating on playing. Well, you're scoring a load of runs. I've got a question. You talk there about franchise cricket and the year that you can have, you can map it out.

15:30Does that mean you are completely done with Red Bull cricket? um you see like it's i actually really enjoy playing red ball cricket but you can only play a certain amount of cricket in a year and for me to try and play in all the franchise tournaments come straight home go straight into four-day cricket and play you'll just burn out and you definitely can't do that for a number of years you might get away with it for one year but yeah for sure if there becomes a break at some point like i probably would have played these last three games coming up but obviously when I did my hamstring I kind of need to look after that and protect that for for what's coming in Christmas and after Christmas so but yeah certainly if I go away and play and I'm not playing for England or whatever and I come back and there's there's a break of six weeks of white ball cricket and a couple of four-day games I would love to play I enjoyed playing for Lanks but it's just like I think it's probably last in line for me right now just because I haven't played it for so long.

16:30But yeah, I love playing four-day cricket. There's nothing more rewarding than winning a four-day game on the last day and sitting down at the end of the game having a beer together. And that feeling will never go away. But I'm also 32. How long do I have left? Hopefully another six, seven, eight years of cricket. Can I play four-day cricket as well as all the franchise tournaments around the world? Probably not. I mean you keep saying four why not push it up to five day cricket yeah I think those days are definitely gone do you not think like I the way I look at when I the way I see you as a player like I was fortunate enough to play four day cricket with you in test match cricket there'll be fans out there that just see you as this like white ball player guy who can smack it out the ground but I see you as like a proper proper batter you've got one of the better techniques I've seen of players I've played with.

17:22I remember hundreds you got in the championship. You won us a game against Somerset, Old Trafford, getting a massive 100 in the second innings. I understand where your priorities are, but from a fan's perspective, I'd love to see you play Red Bull as well. Yeah, and I get that. And I understand if there was more days in a year than there are, then I'd try and play everything I could, honestly. And if I was still 21, I probably would because body-wise you can get through it all. But I reckon once I got injured once and I was forever trying to race to get back, you kind of just chasing your tail a little bit.

17:56So I'm hoping after the summer, I've got a few months off planned at the moment. So hopefully I can start to train, get into some decent, get my injuries sort of under control and sort of like start afresh. And hopefully that going forward for the next four, five, six years can help me stay injury free. and then you never know. Like I may feel great when I come back next summer and I'm like, I can play everything. But I wouldn't want to miss, for example, this year, if I'd have played them two four-day games just after the blast and I would have missed the 100, then I would never have forgiven myself for missing the 100.

18:34Do you know what I mean? So more like financially and physically, you've got to try and like map it out how it all works into 12 months. But I would love to have played more four-day cricket, but it kind of I think naturally your career just takes you down certain paths of of where you're meant to be and yeah you can't always do it all at the same time it's interesting because when you were talking about all those tournaments you play for franchise wise it you made me think of a tennis player a little bit going around the grand slams a little bit going around do you mean doing the tour type yeah so it started to feel like that a bit it's more of an individual pursuit in some ways.

19:12I think a bit more that I would sort of relate to is golf. And you see the lads that go and play on the PGA or whatever. So like Rory McIlroy, he doesn't play every week. He picks and chooses the tournaments that he wants to play in and he gets ready to play for the majors in certain tournaments. And he'll probably sit there in January and map out his year of where he's going to play and how it's going to go. And then obviously injuries and stuff can change that. But yeah, it's kind of, you sort of have like a calendar in front of you and you go, you want to play in this tournament, this tournament, this tournament.

19:44How does it all work out? And more importantly, when are you going to get your rest to get away from that, to get away from cricket that I think you need. But I also feel like you can't live, you can't live 12 months a year under pressure. Like in all these tournaments, you go into a team, you've got to make an impression, you've got to do well for certain franchises. and you don't really get that like the comfort blanket of not doing well for a couple of weeks because you're there for, you go to South Africa for four weeks and if you don't do well, they don't get you next year. And they don't care that you've just been in another tournament just like a couple of weeks ago type thing.

20:21Yeah, and that's the thing. So I think that's another big thing. It's physically, you've got to have some time to rest and get your body back to where you need it to be. But I think mentally as well, living 12 months of a year under pressure is a pretty difficult thing to do as well. so and you've got to fit some time for your alignment sticks in as well now exactly and how are you meant to get better at golf if you're playing cricket 12 onto the year yeah so it's a difficult one but you've got to try and plan it all out just quickly Liam because I've just like just I'm interested because I will never know this feeling as Greg won't either but like just explain to people that might like what the feeling is like of like hitting the ball as purely as you do for six out of the ground is there like a way that you can sort of like articulate what that's like a lot of baseball players say it's like hitting a cloud when you hit the ball that cleanly like you don't even feel yeah there's like a purity to it do you have do you know what i mean when you hit through the ball down the ground or whatever is there a sort of sensation is it addictive like is there some or like a way of knowing like oh i've nailed that so beautifully Yeah, it's never really down the ground, to be honest.

21:28It's usually over square leg. But yeah, it is. It is like you don't feel the ball come off the bat. And I've actually had a couple in the hundred. And like, obviously, it's good fun hitting sixes, but I don't think there's any better feeling than swinging at one and hitting it as clean as you possibly can and sort of wondering how far it's going and then kind of having a laugh with your partner at the other end. So, yeah, I've certainly had that a couple of times in the 100 this year where I've hit the ball really clean. And I think that's a part of it. I feel like if you're a fan and you go to a ground or whatever, if you're a 10-year-old kid and you want to get into cricket and you see these lads hitting the ball halfway up stands on the roofs of stands or whatever, I feel like it's just a little bit more appealing to want to go and try and do that rather than seeing the ball hit the advertising boards and bounce back into play and then whatever.

22:22so yeah it's better to see it hit in the the heads of the spectators the faces i actually there's i don't know how more people don't get hit to be honest because the ball goes into the crowd and you see and everyone's arms like diving across yeah yeah you'll see a guy jump across three people and the ball goes straight through his hands like i'm actually really surprised more people don't get really hurt but you're right it is amazing to watch and forget and i mean this forget the 10 year old lads, the 39 year old lads who are watching it. I was watching the Oval Invincibles destroy the Trent Rockets the other night after that unbelievable David Willey timeout that he did.

23:03And then Sam Curran and Jordan Cox just teed off. Some of that hitting from Sam and Jordan was unbelievable, wasn't it? At the Oval the other night. There's something about that pitch. Yeah, it was. I actually watched that game. At the time, we wanted the Oval to keep winning so that there was a chance for us to get into there um so we wanted the uh the oval to win but i feel like that like that is the part of the tournament that you remember um certainly when i look back at the tournament it's the big run chases yeah it's the the hitting the balls out of the ground six after six after six that you remember not necessarily the balls spinning past someone's bat and they've bowled four or five dots in a set no disrespect to bowlers but i do think as a spectator you want to see the balls flying into the stands and out the grounds and stuff like that I don't know if that's just me being really selfish but I do feel especially I think it's the same when you go to the IPL like the pitches are so good and the grounds are so small that you do get big scores but I think that's more entertaining cricket and the bowlers that are really so you look at Bumrah who he never goes for more than 30 and 4 overs boring because because of his skill yeah yeah and and his skill level is you've got to be bang on because if you miss you get hit out of the ground right so i feel like that sort of yeah the spectacle that that creates obviously when coxie and sam were going at it the other day i remember sitting there thinking this this is pretty good oh it's amazing amazing that's the thing about it isn't it it's I actually genuinely haven't quite got used to the format of the of the rhythm of the innings of the hunt of a hundred game yeah and I've watched loads of them but if you've got the biggest stars in the world and you've got some amazing bowlers some amazing hitters and some amazing fielders obviously it's going to be great fun to watch and it is great fun to watch and as actually just to what you were saying about playing franchise cricket and maybe not doing as much rebel cricket as long as you're enjoying it that's kind of it right that was your dream surely that was your dream job just to go and enjoy playing cricket for a living so everything's like kind of everything's all right 100 and people people always say you should be doing this you should be doing that at the end of the day like as long as i'm going out there and having fun playing cricket whether that's if i go and play a league game on a saturday or whatever it is as long as i'm enjoying myself like what does it actually matter and i feel like even when you go to the ipl and you turn up and there's 60 70 000 seat even the final was 110 000 people it's a packed stadium if you're not enjoying that you're probably doing the wrong thing and people sometimes complain that we're not playing four-day cricket in england instead of playing in the ipl when you turn it around that way and you you get in the opportunity to play in front of so many people that just absolutely love cricket like that that is what you want to do when you grow up and that is the reason you got into the game and and that's probably what you want to do until you finish what was that final like come on then take us there because you've won the IPL with Royal Challengers this year, which is Virat Kohli's team.

26:09And Kohli's never won the IPL until you turned up with him. As I said, rate you. You said it, not me. Talk us through the final, talk us through all the rest of this. Do you know what? This is a huge thing. It was, honestly, it was incredible. I feel like the whole way through the tournament, things were just happening. And you were like, hold on a minute, maybe this is the year. Because obviously it's a well-known thing. RCB had never won it. I actually remember after the auction, I remember Brodie commented on an Instagram post saying that we had the worst squad and we'll finish bottom. So the whole way through the tournament, a part of me just wanted to win just because of Brodie's comment.

26:49Anyways, we were playing really well. We had a great team. We had Hazelwood as an overseas baller who was unbelievable for us. He won us a couple of games from nowhere. and anyways we got to a stage where we needed to win a couple to finish in the top two which then gets you straight through to the final our captain broke his finger hazelwood got injured so we were like they're two big losses for us and then out of nowhere the war happened and the tournament sort of got cancelled for 10 days which allowed hazelwood and rajat to get fit again and then by the time we came back we had we had josh available for the finals and rajat to play the next game so there was just certain things that it was obviously virat's 18th season he wears 18 on his back the date of the final i think it was the third of the sixth or fifth when would it have been the sixth three six two two five which added up to 18 salty was having a salty was having a baby that came two days before which allowed him time to fly home, fly back out, play the final.

27:59And it was an 18 pound baby. Yeah. And everything was just like lining up. And I remember on the night thinking, it's just meant to be like, we're going to win it. Wow. And then the actual game was, honestly, it was the most surreal experience. I've probably had two there, the World Cup final at the MCG, which was obviously amazing because you're playing in a World Cup final for your country. But the noise in this stadium was remarkable. And it was kind of nice that we got to a stage in the second innings where we pretty much won the game without winning it. And we had probably about five overs left.

28:36And you could kind of just sort of take a step back and enjoy it and sort of take everything in. And then, yeah, the last over went for about 30 or something and we won by nine runs in the end or something like that. But the noise inside that stadium for about two hours after the game, honestly, it was remarkable. It's something I'll never, ever forget. and looking back as a kid to be able to, when I was watching the likes of Gale and Davilias play for RCB, to then sort of think you're involved in the first ever victory that they've had. Yeah, it was just such a cool experience. And like I said, when I finished playing and look back, it'll be something that I'll look back on and be pretty happy that I was involved in it.

29:16What's it like showing a dressing room with Virat? What's he like as a teammate? It was great. I was pretty excited because we don't know how long he's got left, but he was to be on the same side as him was was pretty cool but yeah he was such a good guy to be in a dressing room with he was he'd help anybody and everybody and the one thing that really struck me is the indian boys are rock stars over there like they are the biggest of celebrities but verat was still pretty humble about it all he'd carry his bags everywhere he wouldn't have an entourage of 50 people which some of them do and he was just well who's got an entourage this is interesting i know this i'm not i'm not naming names but what do you mean like they've got bag carriers and what pr people or what everything personal photographers chefs everything wow yeah everything you can name they've they've got it with them but very i didn't he was just he was just a real family guy who loved being around his family when his family weren't there he'd spend the whole time on facetime to them and he was just like a real humble guy that didn't really want to live the life that he lived like he is probably one of the most famous people in india but you would never think that spending time with him and i actually think he quite liked the fact that we had a lot of western overseas that actually were there just trying to take the mick out of him and have a laugh with him and i think he probably enjoyed that but yeah like i said he was he was incredible to have as part of your team like an unbelievable competitor on the pitch but a really nice guy off it as well so yeah i really enjoyed it i think he lives in london now is that right does he he does yeah he moved to the uk full time he lives in london yeah um he's obviously got a bit more freedom in in the uk for him and his family so yeah not if he bumps into me and fee we're obsessed with him no he is he's he's a cool guy we'd be like 500 000 indian fans me and fee just together oh my god yeah i can just imagine some of these indians that are walking around london and you see virat walking down the street yeah it'd be pretty mad for them how how they are in their own country well it's mad when we walk down the street with jimmy in london and there's like an indian fan who will just come up to me and fee or sharky or match and just go that man looks like jimmy and is that jimmy anderson and we go yeah and they basically just fall to their knees and go oh what the why is he what okay jimmy's really accommodating as well isn't he well we have to facilitate we have to we have to be jimmy's entourage so we're basically his photographer his personal photographer so we're like jimmy we've got a fan a young fan over here wants to have a photo oh no come on be really nice because you don't know you don't know this this this could spread around social media if it you know just be nice and they go up and jimmy just um he turns it on for about three seconds three seconds yeah yeah yeah yeah

32:14the moony duke and jimmy loves his fans sort of all right what would you reckon next year then so you're gonna you're gonna go for royal challenges again next year is that the plan who knows we've got the auctions in november december and it's all on the franchises so how it worked in the IPL is they kind of get choice over you so if they want you they keep you if they don't want you they throw you back in the auction so who knows like like cattle surely if you've worn it they want to keep as many as possible you would think yeah but I don't know there's certain sometimes you've got a few holes to fill in a team and to do that you've got to get rid of certain people to free up enough purse in your auction budget to get whatever it is so who knows whatever it is I'd I would love to go back because I absolutely love playing for them and it was one of the greatest experiences of my life in franchise cricket.

33:03But yeah, nothing will probably ever be winning a trophy for ICB for the first time. So if it's with somebody else, it's with somebody else. But who knows? Wait a couple of months and we'll see. Stupid question, Liam. But like, apart from like obviously getting paid extremely well, what do you get for winning the IPL? Do you get like, do you get a little, do you got a medal or like a trophy? Is there anything you got? Yeah, they give, we've got a watch. Wow. Wow. It looks like one of those underwater ones. The IPL trophy on the back of it. Wow. Oh, no way, yeah. So that's your green jacket. I think it's a bit better than a medal.

33:39It's a bit different, isn't it? Definitely. It tells the time better than a medal, that's for sure. Yeah, I'm not too sure I'd be strolling around with a green watch, though. That's the only thing. Well, it's quite a move, isn't it? It's quite a like... Yeah. Yeah, walking in his cricket dress rooms with that. Pop quiz. What's in your kids' lunchbox? At Whole Foods Market, they've already done the studying. Over 300 food ingredients are banned from their shelves. No hydronated fats in the peanut butter and no high fructose corn syrup in the cookies. And for sandwiches, there are no synthetic nitrates or nitrites in any of their deli meat.

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