Tymal Mills: Fast Bowling and Franchises

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1:13My name is Greg James, a.k.a. G-Force. That is Felix White over there, matching Tendulkar on the way. Plus, we're going to speak to a viral sensation, an amazing guy called Miles, who got six in six last weekend. And you may well have seen him. If you're on the cricket internet, then you will have seen it. We're going to chat to him in just a bit. And very excitingly, we are joined by a, well, a legend. Someone that we talk about a lot in this podcast. Someone that we rate very highly, both in front of the camera and in front of, behind the umpire and also in front of a bowler. It's Timar Mills.

1:55Timar, welcome to Tell Enders Hello guys, that's an introduction, thank you It is an introduction Happy to be here It's an introduction It's really great to have you on This is a great Jimmy Anderson replacement Really, really strong Jimmy Anderson replacement Have you played against Jimmy Mux? Have you played against Jimmy Mux, Timar?

2:14Tymal Mills:I don't reckon I would have, no No, I've worked with him a lot on the BBC And bits like that But no, he won't, obviously he hasn't He's only just started playing white ball cricket again recently and Lancashire obviously being in the north group I'm down in the south and yeah didn't play against him in the 100 last year although I heard his I saw his quotes of all the great things you have to say about the competition so I won't be playing against him again this year it's funny I don't think we've even talked about his quotes have we no he hated it well he hated every moment it's funny he put it in the tailenders group and he went oh whoops and it's because the interview has obviously got him on a where is it okay here we go he yeah the quote is it was a mixture of hating every minute of the hundred last year if i can say that and especially being captain this year i think it's really important that i focus on being as fit as i can be for the four day stuff i want to play in the blast as well again when the hundred's on i'm hopefully going to be on holiday somewhere and then he like sent that to the group and went that can't really be twisted much I just feel like that's pretty it's pretty clear it's unambiguous I'd say that 100 % you guys usually haven't followed up with him and asked him why he hated it so much well we're not great journalists for doing it you literally have a podcast with the man who's giving you this lovely do you know what he said a few times is that he hates the form of dismissal like he can't he can't get into his system that you're celebrating when someone skied you to mid wicket like a stapler and it's just really having just been celebrating got your adrenaline rush from Nick off Nick off one that comes back in on the pad type thing just the idea that someone smashed you 20 feet in the air it's just a different feeling I completely get that especially as you say Jimmy a man who's literally made a career of the art form of bowling and working over and manipulating batters and then you've got clowns like me just chucking it halfway down and blokes hitting it's a deep square leg and I'm doing laps of the pits like I've just you know like I've just sold the Iran-America war

4:38Tymal Mills:I completely understand that Have you? Is that breaking news? I should be a journalist here. Have you just solved the crisis? Things are going, it's quite quiet at the moment so watch this space So, Tamar, look, that's interesting. That's a very interesting take from you, is that you understand that different wickets have different values or different methods of dismissal have different values. Captain of the blast for Sussex this season. You're going to play for London Spirit in the 100. Over the years, you've played for England in the T20s. And your franchise clubs, so many now. I might have missed one out, but Royal Challengers, Bangalore, Mumbai Indians Brisbane Heat Perth Scorchers Hobart Hurricanes Islamabad United Pretoria Capitals and St.

5:23Lucia Kings

5:25Tymal Mills:oh there's many more on top of that that's probably that's probably only the last five years I reckon who's your favourite? do you know what I played I played for Pretoria Capitals in the SA20 this year and that was the first time I'd played in the SA20 and that competition is leaps and bounds ahead of everything at the moment That was such a good five weeks. Being in South Africa over Christmas, New Year, the weather was perfect. The crowds, like every game pretty much was sold out. I don't know if you guys have been to South Africa much, but just an amazing country. Cheap food and drink over there.

6:01Tymal Mills:You know, you're living well for a month. And yeah, the vibe, I guess, because they're all proper cricket stadiums. They're not multi-use stadiums. Every ground is different. It's authentic. You go to Port Elizabeth, they've got a live band playing and chanting. and I've watched it on TV and I haven't played in it and then this year I got the chance to go over and play and absolutely loved it it was so much fun so hopefully I'll go back next season yeah there's been a few cricketers have said that the SA20 has been their favourite tournament and I didn't realise it had been sold out yeah relatively honestly I reckon we played we played 10 group games and then the knockouts we had a game in Durban where it was a bit rainy and a bit you know just a bit of a rubbish day and that crowd wasn't great but all our games in centurion were sold out um as i say port elizabeth was sold out newlands like everything yeah it was it was quality what sort of crowds was it was it like because like obviously the hundred is famously different sort of audience intentionally than cricket did you feel that they like sort of cricket centric crowds or like what's the sort of feeling yeah similar similar lots of kids because uh it's during it's during the christmas holiday christmas new year time so you know kids are kids are off school yeah to be honest you can just tell people really get around it and because they haven't had a big cricket competition before in in the country and it's just works they get behind the cities people travel you know they're doing into it's i think they do the tv well they've always got you know people in the crowd talking to you know different families and people at the games musicians are in the crowd there's there's yeah it's just it's just a good vibe and it's yeah just really good atmosphere and as as greg said pretty much everybody that i'd spoken to that played in it previously had had nothing but good things to say and yeah, it was an awesome way to spend, what, four or five weeks.

7:44Tymal Mills:Yeah, that's great. Tamal, I'm really interested in you valuing different modes of dismissal over others because you've got to get your head around a lot of stuff when you're travelling around playing cricket. So what are you taking from these games and what keeps you going? Because you don't have, I mean, you've got lots of teams that you play for and you're doing Blast here and you're doing the 100 there. So what's the thing that keeps you hungry? hungry because if it's for jimmy it seems like it's pretty much long for you know long form four day cricket obviously formally test cricket that's my thing that's my i've gone i'm just gonna be the best at that but how do you approach your game now multifaceted really like well i caught my best mate a few weeks ago um he lives overseas now but he was back in the uk and we caught up and he he used to play cricket and he's like he just asked me like do you still like enjoy it and i said yeah like i still i still love it like i've been professional now for 15 years and i'm still hungry to do you know what it is I know that once I stop playing cricket I won't ever get that feeling again of those good days, of those taking those wickets, bowling a match winning spell, bowling that last over to defend to win a game, I know that that will those days are numbered and I'll never get it again, those are the things that you chase and I've been so lucky to travel all around the world and cricket is really unique in terms of the places that we get to go to we go to quite niche places at times that again I wouldn't have normally just traveled to probably if I you know did any other job or in any other walk of life but I think that being honest T20 cricket and franchise cricket it can blend into one and you can just roll game into game tournament into tournament and the teams that I've been a part of that are most successful they find a way to get the players invested whatever way that might be and that's hard when you're only together.

9:32Tymal Mills:Often you'll get together three days before your first game. You'll have a three-week group stage and then hopefully you've qualified for the knockouts, playoffs, and then everybody leaves. And then you probably don't see each other again next year. There's very little in the way of loyalty. Hopefully you do well and you get retained, but it often doesn't work like that. So the coaches and the teams that find a way to get you to care about one another. Mickey Arfa was good. Do you know Mickey Arfa? He's now Derbyshire head coach. Madsen's man. Yes, so he was at the time, he was Pakistan head coach and he was also the head coach of the Karachi Kings for the PSL.

10:07Tymal Mills:I got drafted by the Karachi Kings and one of the first things Mickey did was he got the overseas players together. The eight overseas players was me, Ravi Bapara, Joe Denley, David Vesa, Lendell Simmons, I can't remember, a few other guys. And he said, look, I'm not worried, you guys, you're here for a month. I know you're going to try your best and hopefully you're going to win some cricket games. but what I'd like you to do is get a young Pakistani player or two players and can you help them for the next four weeks can you just give them a little bit of something that because they're you'll because after this month you'll disappear and you'll go to your next thing but for them this is their kind of big moment and they might not play but then they'll go back into Pakistan domestic cricket and you know yada yada yada so straight away he kind of gave us a bit of responsibility and a reason to care about somebody in the team.

10:53Tymal Mills:And not everybody does that. And that's something that actually stuck with me. That was quite a while ago now. And I think that is quite important because whilst we kind of drop in and drop out and fly in and fly out, underneath that, there are a lot of guys still, you know, fighting really hard to make it and to experience it. And those little things, all of a sudden, now you might keep half an eye on a couple of players. You know, once you leave, I helped him out. So he took a five for two months after I left. That's awesome. You might send him a text or whatever it might be. So those are little things that I think good T20 teams do well, but it is hard.

11:26Tymal Mills:Who was it specifically that you helped? So it was Mir Hamza. He stayed on. He still plays now, so he's still playing in the PSL. He was left on Seymour. I worked with him, so he was a young guy back when I was playing in the PSL. And yeah, there's always guys. There's so many. Because the squads are big and you have a lot of players. And yeah, it's rewarding and it's nice. and it just keeps you, does keep you kind of invested. I'm really interested in this and I love talking to franchise players who go and drop into a new team and have to, you have to adapt very, very quickly, not just your game, but the whole philosophy of a team and feet.

11:59I think you're much better qualified to talk about this than I am, particularly because you've just written a lovely book about football and its relationship with its fans and the clubs and how they all differ. And one of the things, particularly about a football team is there is normally, a successful team has a philosophy that all the players join in with and they say yeah we're going to we're going to do this is this is why we're doing it I find that must be quite hard if you're dropping into a team suddenly go oh this is the team that is that they play like this now and oh actually that's the team that that plays like that do you feel like you're the same cricketer in each team that you play in I guess you have to adapt a little bit right yeah it's

12:37Tymal Mills:hard because as well in franchise cricket you have to remember every player's got their own agenda like yeah in in theory in theory you're bringing these people together and you want them to gel and players one and do you know do the right job for the team but within that each individual player is trying to secure their contracts for the next tournament or for the next year so it's hard so you do sometimes you might arrive and a team asks me as a bowler to do a role that i'm probably not my best at and i've got no choice but to do that or i can kick off and you know say no no this is this is what i do or a lot of the time it's dealing with captains so you might come in especially in like the subcontinent where it's quite hierarchical hierarchical yeah so in that culture you know you won't you won't see a young pakistani guy for example took back to a senior pakistani player that's just kind of the culture whereas you know as foreign players you know it's a bit it's a bit different so you can clash you can clash sometimes when you've got say a captain like berating you for doing something that he doesn't want you to do or whatever there can be some challenging moments but yeah as i said you you do that's why you'll see teams maybe retain players when you might think oh why have they retained this player you know they didn't do very well last year or there's better options available but actually there is some merit in trying to keep some of the group together to instead of just always trying to kind of chop and change and and have that quick fix strange isn't it if you were to transpose that onto fulham or something fee it's quite interesting that they they're all they're all sort of on message right and then suddenly if they're going off halfway through the season and going to another club and it's it's quite an odd yeah it's interesting but i'm just thinking about that even from a musical perspective in bands or whatever there's there's an element in anything that works of sort of productive tension like you need to have a little bit of people being competitive with each other within that system in order for that to work and so often you see it in like the test teams there's a period of time when that works really effectively and then it always snaps it always goes like it boils over just at that point but if you can get that clicking through you can almost feel it can't you when people are competitive with each other like in my in my head that's a 10-11 England team where it's where um I just thought when Steve Fing got dropped him for the boxing day test when he's the highest wicket taker like it's so competitive for places within that and it's just like right at breaking point all the time.

15:05But really hard to get that done in a short period of time. I've got a very, very basic question for you tomorrow that I'm going to ask you. Yeah, go. What is the quickest ball you've ever bowled, recorded?

15:15Tymal Mills:I think it was, again, in the PSL, I was playing for the Peshawar Zalmi, one of the teams you missed off the list. Silly me. I was 20, I want to say it was just before COVID, so maybe 2019. Yeah. I think I got clocked at about 94.5 mile an hour. okay that day yeah do you think you bowl quicker than that maybe obviously i played a lot of games that weren't televised but i was that was definitely a little period of time where i was definitely bowling kind of as quick as because you're really good in that period because you're saying that you're going to miss that when you start playing and i wonder whether part of that is the thrill of really scaring someone i don't know if it's scaring but it's control it's control Yeah, like knowing it is a really empowering feeling when you're stood at the end of your mark, knowing that you're on top, regardless of what happens at the other end of the ball, because, you know, top edges go for six and all that type of stuff.

16:09Tymal Mills:But it's that feeling of power, I guess, and control. And don't get me wrong, it goes the complete opposite way sometimes as well. There are plenty of times I'm stood at the back of my mark knowing I've got zero control and the batter is going to dispatch me. Doesn't matter what I bowl, it's going for six. but yeah those moments are they're they're pretty special what about when you smashed graham swan's arm in 2013 oh this is great yeah this is a great one because that was you were like we weren't there to like recreate mitchell johnson or something was it something like that that was after so that was after yeah so so at the time it's again it doesn't happen it's a different time but yeah essex i was playing for essex and england played essex in a four-day televised match at chelmsford ahead of the ashes, home ashes.

16:53Tymal Mills:And it was brilliant, like amazing. I was a young guy at the time I think I was only 20, 21. We produced an absolute flat road at Chelmsford so the game would last four days essentially. And yeah, we did a day in the field, I got a couple of wickets and then we came back for day two and we didn't want to be out there for another day bowling so Ravi Bapara was captain at the time and told me to, yeah, let's bowl some short stuff. Yeah, hit Swanee pretty hard in the arm and yeah there was obviously some worries about him that he'd broken his arm at the time he was going to miss the ashes but luckily luckily it was just a like a bad bruise yeah okay and yeah but that was an amazing amazing time and then they took me to the ashes that following winter as a net bowler amazing to get them ready for Mitchell Johnson who then I think took 30 wickets in the in the series yeah yeah terrible I did I did a terrible job in that regard I don't think I don't I don't think it was to you to play but I wouldn't have surprised if they put I put you out for interview.

17:50Tymal Mills:I was there literally up until the first test. I was with them for about a month. And then as soon as the real stuff happened, I was shipped off again. Should we talk about some real stuff? Because obviously we've had a less than ideal winter with the men in the ashes. And we have to, because we are optimists, we have to be positive about the new cricket season and you know the men's test matches in early June as a bowler fast bowler who are you picking what's the attach please tomorrow because none of us really know and I don't think they do either yeah I think well Josh Tong he's probably the the only one where his name is in pen probably because he's he finished the winter well and he's done well playing for for knots now so he's he's definitely in joff's in i guess the only thing with joff is that he's at the ipl playing t20 cricket and he if registrar made the final for example he won't have you know really had much time at all to build himself up and be ready for that first test they might even hold him off for a test just to kind of get him ready and then yeah aside from that yeah gus atkinson's back playing for surrey now but that the ovals are you know It's been an absolute run fest so far this year.

19:08Tymal Mills:Surrey are playing my boys Sussex this weekend. It'll be interesting to see what the pitch is like. And then, yeah, some names. Look, Oli Robinson's been making all the right noises about trying to get back in the side. He's bowling well at the moment. Probably hasn't taken the wickets that he would have liked, but he's bowling well. He's beating the bat a lot, and he's captain at Sussex. I think Sonny Baker is a good shout. That's a good one. Especially maybe if Joff doesn't play, because then you get that kind of pace. He's bowling really well for Hampshire. He's swinging it. he's by all accounts still bowling fast like later in spells and later in days you know it's not like he bowls you know like I used to when I was playing four day cricket I'd bowl a quick first four overs and then it'd be downhill from there so yeah keep an eye out on Sonny Baker maybe I think it'd be exciting to watch because he's a funny character and he's all action so yeah there's a few names there to go with the usual suspects yes who's it going to be the Ollie Robinson thing's interesting isn't it because it'd be nice for sort of cricket story time there is a story to be had there you want a sort of redemptive arc a little bit of him coming back and taking a load of wickets yeah it feels like there was a captain as well yeah there's been a lot of chat from him saying that he's up for it and the word sort of from the rest of the players at Sussex is yeah he's sort of taking things even more seriously now and making sure he's really fit and you know he's serious about this stuff because I guess when you get if you get to play for England you're like oh my god this is my chance and then if he doesn't quite got a plan you think oh god is that ever going to happen again Yeah, definitely.

20:34Tymal Mills:And there's some England Lions games at the end of this month. So that'll be quite indicative. I think I'm sure they'll probably use, I think they're playing South Africa on the 22nd, I think I saw. That'll be quite indicative. There might be a bit of a shoot out there for, you know, the opening, whoever's going to be the opening batter or, you know, a bowling spot or two. So once that squad gets named, that'll give you a good chance to see who's in the mix. Who would that opener be for you tomorrow? Because so many people's runs in the hat. If Zach's not picked, who do you fancy? Obviously, I'm biased, but I see Tom Haynes down here and he hasn't quite got that big score that the other opening batters have got so far in the championship.

21:07Tymal Mills:He's got a few 50s and he looks a million dollars and then kind of gets out for 60 or so. He'll be frustrated at that because Haynes, he's a very good batter and he had a very good winter with the Lions. It sounds like Emilio Gay is probably in the hot seat at the moment. You could obviously, you say he's been in Div 2, so a little bit of tax there for Division 2 runs, but he did it against Jimmy in Lancashire last week, so at least you're doing it against the best of tax. And then James Rue, he looks a million dollars, but he'd obviously be batting way out of position if he does play and open the batting.

21:42Tymal Mills:But I think it's been quite clear that both of the Rue brothers are very good players and will be England players in some form or shape over the next few years. And that's a matter of time. But I reckon, yeah, between Gay and Rue sounds like might be the way that they go. But there's still another couple of championship games to go between now and then. If you go out there and score a load of runs, you never know. Dom Sibley. Dom Sibley could still be in the mix. He could be. Don't write him off. He took a mental catch, actually, last weekend. Did he see that catch? I did on the boundary, yeah.

22:15Yeah, it was like someone inherited his body for a second. flying through yeah but like i've seen interviews uh this week with emilio gay and tribe just from a non-cricketing perspective what was really interesting about it was they were just quite they're young people they talk very honestly and i just felt like i'm like do you know what i would enjoy listening to you speak more often every week so if you're playing for england and we're missing a few of those personalities where it felt like i'm not just tired of hearing the shtick again and again or knowing exactly what these people are going to say and i just feel from that little pack of batters and bowlers sometimes when you hear them speak you just feel like oh it just feels kind of refreshing like there's an energy in it there's a different point of view there's an open that's probably because they're not in the england setup

23:02Tymal Mills:you've become an international cricketer then all of a sudden you just regurgitate the do you know what it's such a good it's such a good point you're probably getting told what to say to a degree the very best and the most confident ones because it is a quiet confidence isn't it to have that self-awareness and to know your own mind and to trust yourself that you're going to say something interesting and that's not going to bring the whole thing down Jacob Bethel did that he did that during the ashes before he got picked before he played he gave a really good interview that everyone then talked about and went oh yeah he seems and it just took sort of Nasser Hussain to go it's the real deal he's like got a good head on his shoulders and he sounds like he does he sort of says interesting things and says funny things he was talking about not wasn't it like not understanding how Joe Root bats or something that was the thing that people took away from that interview and we were talking a lot during the Ashes about how the personality of a player is so important sometimes in communicating the message to us the fans just to tell us that they want to be there and they're trying really hard and they're really enjoying the thrill of playing professional cricket that's something that always comes across from you tomorrow that always has done and that's one of the reasons i said that you're really good on camera because you know how to communicate your passion to an audience and your expertise and how you read the game but that was really lacking and it was such a stark contrast to some of the australians who were just and it helps when you're winning obviously you can be more confident but they know who they are as a team that philosophy again they know who they are as players and they communicate that and they go oh we're just having a laugh i think that's australian culture as well the being in australia a lot they they like that you know they like the arrogant you know kind of the jock do you know i mean that's whereas in england that's that's frowned upon a bit more i think in in australia they they like their sports people to be the you know the big brash cocky australians whereas in england where we obviously we well we don't like that very often do we and you have to be very special but i think a lot of us special to back it a lot of us do like that and we all i think we all love interesting characters playing cricket and it doesn't even have to be sort of swigging beer on the boundary or whatever after a victory we're not saying everyone needs to be like travis head or shane warne but mark wood's a great example just he just it just comes alive in an interview and people are drawn to him because they're like i'd like i like that guy and he's amazing at cricket because they're all amazing at cricket you're all amazing at cricket but if you can just communicate a bit of your personality and that's that's incredible magnetic people well greg said i was just thinking when you're broadcasting commentating whatever it is are you think still thinking about it from a playing perspective so are you learning are you watching a game of cricket and thinking about things for almost like the other side of you do you know what I mean are you like picking up things or is it a completely different skill because you're basically being a broadcaster in that yeah it's it's tricky I think as a broadcaster I definitely try and use my knowledge and yeah the information I've gathered from a from from being a player and things I know and that's that's one thing you know people tell you behind the scenes and producers or whatever they they want you to say things that other people won't you know necessarily know yeah but yeah one thing it definitely keeps you doing commentary as well as playing keeps you in the game so you're watching more balls and you're noticing things and it might not be technical things but you'll because I've say I've been playing and broadcasting I'll know if a batter is low on form or low on runs or yeah if they're getting out in it or if they're getting out in a particular way because like if because as players we get fed loads of information we do the meetings we have the stat packs and you know sometimes it just washes over you you can't absorb all this information that you've been given but if i'm doing some commentary and i notice that you know i say i'm on air live and for my stint and player x you know played in a really poor way or the other way if they played really well but they they did things in a so i'd notice for example james coles i can speak about him because you know he's my mate and i know him well but i noticed that he was only say he was he was scoring a lot more through the offside over cover but he was doing it in the same way he was every time he'd step to the leg side to access the offside whereas the you know the stat pack would just say oh coles is very good over cover but you can add you can add context to that and you can add a little bit more by watching it and analyzing it because you say okay yes yes he's hitting over cover really well but he takes a step to the leg side before so you can see that as a bowler and yeah yeah so there's yeah you need to be one thing i think as a broadcaster and that you guys will know as well as everyone else.

27:47Tymal Mills:I think it's obvious when guys are broadcasting and they're blagging it and they don't know what they're doing. And I'm not saying that you guys do that. I'm saying you don't notice it. I wasn't expecting you were saying us, but now I am. I'll know. If I'll be watching a game and I'll know. So like Ian Bishop, he's probably the best in the world, I think. He goes into so much detail and knows all these backstories and he's probably the gold standard. But you can tell when guys are blagging it and don't know that a player hasn't you know this is his first game for five months because he's been injured and they don't know yeah yeah they think oh he they think oh this player's gone out there and he you know just looks rubbish but they might not know he hasn't played a game because he's you know x y and z so those those are the little things that i think add a lot as a broadcaster and then as a player yeah it definitely helps feed back into your game when you because because you're just constantly watching and reflecting on yeah yeah well it's great to hear your take on everything.

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29:10Tymal Mills:How did a boycott Jimmy become a billionaire from posting videos? On Good Bad Billionaire, we're going to find out how the world's most popular YouTuber, Mr Beast, made his fortune. He's buried himself in a coffin for days. Counted to 100 ,000 on camera. And even recreated squid games, all in an attempt to go viral on the internet. But it all started when he gave a homeless man$10 ,000. So is he a philanthropist reshaping capitalism? Or is he just the king of the attention economy? Find out on Good Bad Billionaire. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Tomorrow, and also, to get your take on the England situation, what's going to happen this summer?

29:48It's all very, very exciting. But the cricket season is already underway, as we know. We're going to have Matching Tendorka in a second to do some fun stuff. But now, did you see the bowler who got six and six? I did, I see the bowler. The whole of cricket is talking about him. Six in six. Middle stump out of the ground. What's your most? Four and over?

30:10Tymal Mills:Got five and five? Definitely don't have that. I might have gotten four maybe back in my club cricket days. I've got a few professional hat tricks, but certainly not six in six. Could only dream. Welcome to the podcast, Miles Davis. Bold, mate. Fantastic area. Thank you. Miles, amazing. First of all, Felix, it must be annoying to now not be the only musician on the podcast. Yeah, but I do. Do you know what I bought? I bought my vinyl copy of Sketches of Spain by Miles Davis. And I was just wondering if you could sign it for me if I send it to Miles. Yeah, no worries. I'll sign that. Can you play the saxophone?

30:47Me? No. Not a chance. Okay. But what you can do, Miles, is bowl gas. I've seen that. I've watched that video so many times. you were on a Stuart Broad hot streak. That must have felt incredible. Yeah, it was top of the world. On top of the world, I felt that. Love that. Were your knees pumping, Miles? Did you feel like an energy come through you, like Stuart Broad would talk about? Yeah, the adrenaline was pumping. It was something I've never felt before. Yeah, but it's one of those things, isn't it? And Tamal, you'll be able to give us the professional insight into this. You see it. We can't feel it as mere mortals.

31:24I mean, Miles has felt it, but you feel it. It's just a feeling like I'm going to get this person out. What is that?

31:32Tymal Mills:I don't know. It happens very, very rarely. And how often do you see somebody take two and two, and then it's a hat-trick ball, big occasion, and then it's a wide or it's just some horrible ball outside the off stump and it's a big anti-climax. But yeah, it does it. You feel like you're walking on air sometimes when you're in that zone and you take over. and as you say, I could only dream of doing what Miles did last weekend and especially in the manner of some of the wickets as well, like middle stump, flying out the ground, cartwheeling. The celebrations were on point as well. You were obviously pumped up.

32:04Tymal Mills:Oh, it was the whole team. It was gassed. So this is Penkridge Firsts, a team based in Staffordshire. So this is first 11 cricket. This is not, you know, this is not village. This is not rabbits. These are proper batters here. so what I'd like Miles is what we do when we have moments of extraordinary sporting prowess on tail enders we've got to bask in it because often we celebrate the very sort of worst of cricket sometimes you know the stuff that makes you feel sad so what I want to do is is I just I would love you to talk us through each delivery oh thanks please yes please I've only seen three what's going on in your head yeah each did it so the first one of the hat trick that was just just sticking to basics really the over before he hit me for a boundary and I thought let's go back to basics I think clean bowled him yeah and then yeah and then the next ball I was like just keep sticking to basics all it was just stick to basics and I bowled him again and then that was the end of the over and I got two hat-tricks last year so I already felt I already knew what it would feel like to run a hat-trick ball you got two hat-tricks last year yeah two last year pretty so this was this was coming this was on the cards yeah and uh I need to sign you up I'm gonna have a word with Paul Farbray to get you down for a trial if you're taking hat-tricks for fun I need you I need you on the 2020 team and I think I think most importantly Tamar's made a good point but most importantly for me and Felix we're getting you know our draft team yeah anyway sorry continue please the hat-trick ball was quite a lucky one caught down leg and that was a lucky one strangled but uh it was after that I thought, that's quite lucky that is.

33:47Something more might happen. That was the end of the over. And then it was then my next over after that. It all just clicked into play. Fourth happened, fifth happened. And by the sixth, I didn't even know what was going on. No one could believe it. As long as I was in sheer shock.

34:03Tymal Mills:All bold as well. That second hat trick, it wasn't. It was bold, bold, bold. That's special. What happened in the fifth ball? Fifth. Of the over. Sorry, as in what would have been seven and seven? Oh, legs wide wide. back down to reality I think yeah that's sport it humbles you very very quickly well look Miles tell us who the opposition were and can you give me the score when you took the first wicket and then obviously when you took your sixth the opposition were Poussel like always says it add six to the score and it's different isn't it yeah the opposition were Poussel and they'd signed Monty Panesar but he weren't playing against us that week I think you'd have been fine yeah I think you'd have got 7-7 even with the wide after 10 overs they were 48 for 2 and because we'd been bowled out for 168 I was down at fine leg thinking we're going to be done over here in 30 overs and then yeah it all just happened yeah unless I get a double hat trick give me the ball 52 what's that sorry oh yeah it's amazing I mean look what were the celebrations like afterwards if you've seen the videos it's just everyone is cannot believe it all my mates up there watching as well and they were just they were the ones screaming in the background how many jugs did you buy?

35:24I mean afterwards afterwards