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TBPN

by John Coogan & Jordi Hays · English

TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.

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AI Execs Sign Joint Commitment, Converting Watts to GDP, the Model Consciousness Debate | Diet TBPNA White House “Joint Committee on Frontier Responsibilities”/“White House Accord on Super Intelligence” dinner and letter; debate over open-source models amid cyber risk; Elon Musk’s claim that added…30 Sep 2026 · 30 min

White House AI Accord, Model Welfare, Ken Griffindor School of Market Wizardry | Ali Golshan, Mike Intrator, Vlad Tenev, Pari Singh, Minna Song, Dev Ittycheria, Daragh Murphy, Noah FriedmanThe episode covers (1) a “White House Accord on Super Intelligence” dinner and the political/industry signaling around AI safety and open-source, (2) a debate about “model welfare” and whether…30 Sep 2026 · 3 h

OpenAI DevDay | Sam Altman, Alexander Embiricos, Andrew Ambrosino, Peter Steinberger, Tibo Sottiaux, Kath Korevec, Casey NeistatOpenAI Dev Day 2026 recap and product/market discussion, centered on “personal AI agents” (Dots) and the “merge” of Codex-style agentic coding into ChatGPT/ChatGPT Work, plus broader tech/news items.29 Sep 2026 · 2 h 6 min

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Cambridge AI Safety Plan, Instinct CEO on Invest Like the Best, Zuck Hires MongoDB CEO | Diet TBPNThe episode discusses AI’s rising public profile, using a viral SNL parody of Dario Amodei (Anthropic) as an example of “crossing the chasm” into mainstream awareness.29 Sep 2026 · 30 min · 12 chapters

Dario Goes From SNL to White House, Some Personal Agent News, Mongo Got Zucked | Lo Toney, Zack London, Anish Acharya, Evan Conrad, Gstaad GuyThe episode is a wide-ranging discussion of AI’s mainstreaming and “agent” era: (1) Dario Amodei’s SNL parody and his sudden White House access, (2) formal AI safety proposals from top researchers…28 Sep 2026 · 2 h 46 min · 56 chapters

Microsoft to Take On Muse, Trump & Xi Dinner, The Mansion Section | Diet TBPNThe episode debates (1) whether Microsoft’s new “Autopilot” agent will be a “Muse moment” and how it compares to Meta’s Muse, (2) a White House dinner with Xi Jinping and major tech leaders, and (3)…25 Sep 2026 · 31 min · 14 chapters

4 Tech Arguments (Number 3 Will Shock You), Mansion Section, John Arnold Joins | Viswa Colluru, Jake Adler, Adam KorsunskyThe hosts debate “personal agents” and Microsoft’s Copilot-to-“Autopilot” push (including whether it’s a real breakthrough or just another OpenClaw-style agent), then pivot to AI “slop” in ads and…25 Sep 2026 · 2 h 12 min · 44 chapters

Meta Connect 2026, OpenAI’s Australia ‘Incident,’ Bentley’s New EV | Diet TBPNRecap and analysis of Meta Connect 2026, Meta’s “Muse” personal AI agent rollout and positioning, plus coverage of OpenAI-related news in Australia, and Bentley’s new EV (Torquil).24 Sep 2026 · 32 min · 18 chapters

Meta Connect Reactions, Zuck's Beer Pong Controversy, New Bentley EV | Shalev Lifshitz & Romi Lifshitz, Leif Abraham, Diogo Almeida, Hooman Reza Nezhad, Jordan Nanos, Erika Alden DeBenedictisReaction to Meta’s Meta Connect keynote, focusing on Muse (Meta’s personal AI agent), Zuck’s beer pong controversy, and major Meta hardware updates—especially $1,300 Meta VR glasses (spring 2027)…24 Sep 2026 · 2 h 2 min · 35 chapters

Jensen’s Ezra Interview, EV News, Nathan Fielder’s Elizabeth Holmes Doc | Diet TBPNThe hosts react to NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang’s interviews (especially with Ezra Klein) about AI pacing, regulation, and whether AI job losses are overstated; they also discuss AI’s economic impact, EV…24 Sep 2026 · 29 min · 9 chapters

Jensen vs NYT, New Model Reactions, "You Can See Everything" Trailer, Saudi EVs | Cristiano Amon, Talia Goldberg, John & Louis Antonelli, Max Levchin, Sam RossThe hosts react to Jensen Huang’s recent public interviews (especially with Ezra Klein), debating AI pacing/“slowdowns,” AI safety vs engineering-only explanations, and whether jobs/economic impact…23 Sep 2026 · 1 h 50 min · 38 chapters

Harvey’s Margins, Are Insects Worth More Than Humans?, Meta Tests Human Help for Muse | Diet TBPNTBPN episode covering (1) Harvey AI’s “negative gross margin” controversy tied to agentic token usage and how it recovered, (2) the “insects worth more than humans” EA thought experiment and…22 Sep 2026 · 33 min · 13 chapters

Harvey's Margin Whiplash, Human Powered Agents, McLaren Rebrand, Insects > Humans? | Ben Thompson, Gagan Biyani, Alex Ratner, Peter Kalogiannis, Daniel PetkevichThe hosts discuss (1) Harvey’s “margin whiplash” after agentic AI drove token costs up, (2) the rise of human-powered AI agents and agentic commerce (Meta Muse, Amazon, Shopify), (3) the viral…22 Sep 2026 · 2 h 15 min · 60 chapters

AI Video Levels Up, Amazon Blocks Muse, Paramount Stays in CA | Diet TBPNAI video generation advances (SeaDance 2.5/CDNs 2.5) and practical creation via Codex; China’s compute/video strategy; Meta’s Muse agent growth and Amazon blocking Muse shopping; plus Paramount’s…21 Sep 2026 · 31 min · 13 chapters

Amazon Ban Hammer, Seedance Strategy, Amazon Blocks Muse | Vinod Khosla, Augustus Doricko, Ben Hylak, Aaron Levie, Lucas ShawThe episode mixes (1) a live demo/discussion of cutting-edge AI video (“CDance 2.5” / “SeaDance 2.5”) and how text-to-video face/object replacement is becoming easy and cheap, (2) a deep dive on…21 Sep 2026 · 2 h 51 min · 71 chapters

Snap Launches SPECS, Paramount Eyes Nashville Offices, OpenAI Explores $1.2T Valuation | Diet TBPNThe episode is a rapid-fire tech/media news roundup plus a firsthand recap of Snap’s launch event for its new smart glasses, “Spex/SPECS.” The host missed most of the keynote due to back-to-back…17 Sep 2026 · 29 min · 12 chapters

Snap Launches Specs, Paramount Eyes Nashville, Japan's Monks Turn to Investing, New Clip from 'The Social Reckoning' | Aaref Hilaly, David Gross, Max Junestrand, Chase Lochmiller, Jesse Zhang, Nilam Ganenthiran & Leonard Tang, Joe WeisenthalA tech/business round-up focused on (1) Bain Capital Ventures’ “post-AGI economy” investing thesis and specific venture bets, (2) Snap’s consumer AR glasses launch (“Specs”) and what demos showed…17 Sep 2026 · 3 h 2 min · 67 chapters

METR and AI Regulation, Zuck Pushes Back on AI Slowdown, Fed Hikes Rates | Diet TBPNThe episode discusses three intertwined threads: (1) AI regulation and independent evaluation, sparked by debate over “METR” and third-party AI watchdogs; (2) Fed policy—Kevin Warsh’s first rate hike…16 Sep 2026 · 31 min · 13 chapters

Third Party Evaluators, Fed Hikes Rates, Zuck Pushes Back On AI Slowdown | Jeremy Allaire, Tomasz Tunguz, William Layden, Justin Beroz, Eli Wachs, Sean McCarthy, Tom MuellerThe episode debates how AI should be evaluated and regulated, focusing on “third-party evaluators” (e.g., Meter) versus lab self-safety, and whether independent oversight can be trusted given…16 Sep 2026 · 2 h 20 min · 52 chapters

Interest Rates Spike, Politicians Take Sides on the AI Safety Debate, Time’s AI Cover | Diet TBPNWhy interest rates are spiking (linked to a Middle East war driving energy/inflation), how AI affects rates via heavy upfront capex before productivity, and the political/industry debate over AI…15 Sep 2026 · 32 min · 16 chapters

High Interest Rate Phenomenon, Driscoll's China Bet Backfires, Who Votes on AI Safety? | Stephen Colbert & Josh Kline, Jim VandeHei, Steve Menneto, Matthew Wilson, Rune Kvist, Tyler Bahl, James CadwalladerThe episode connects three threads: (1) why interest rates are high after the “ZERP” era, arguing war-driven energy/inflation dynamics plus AI-driven investment demand are key; (2) how AI safety…15 Sep 2026 · 2 h 57 min · 74 chapters

The AI Slowdown Debate | Diet TBPNThe “AI slowdown” debate—how fast frontier AI should advance—plus a weekend tech/news roundup (including the U.S. Open and Trump’s comments).14 Sep 2026 · 26 min · 13 chapters

The AI Slowdown Debate | Nico Wittenborn, Scott Keogh, Mitchell Green, David Rosenthal & Ben Gilbert, Faraj AalaeiThe episode debates whether frontier AI development should be “paced” (slowed) and what mechanisms—third-party evaluation, safety standards, and international coordination—should be used.14 Sep 2026 · 2 h 50 min · 61 chapters

Washington Hones in on AI Safety, What Are AI Doomers Proposing | Diet TBPNThe episode asks what “AI doomers” are actually proposing, arguing it’s not a full stop but a slowdown toward “superintelligence by 2040.” It claims AI 2027 predicts Congress will wake up to AI risk…11 Sep 2026 · 30 min · 15 chapters