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TED Radio Hour - Episode Summary
DIY: There's a Problem and Only You Can Fix It
Original Broadcast Date: May 5, 2023 Host: Manoush Zomorodi Guests: Kate Stone, Tiffani Ashley Bell, Emily Pilloton-Lam, Jack Corbett
Episode Overview This episode of TED Radio Hour explores the theme of "Do It Yourself" (DIY), emphasizing how individuals can take initiative to address problems in their communities. Through the stories of four speakers, the episode highlights the power of personal action in the face of larger societal issues.
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Key Speakers and Themes
Kate Stone - Confronting Media Sensationalism
- Background: Kate Stone is a physicist and engineer who experienced a life-threatening accident when she was gored by a stag in Scotland.
- Media Response: Following her accident, British tabloids sensationalized her story, focusing on her gender identity rather than the incident itself. Headlines referred to her derogatorily, which led to public scrutiny and discomfort.
- Response to Sensationalism:
- Action Taken: Kate decided to confront the media by reaching out to the newspapers with calm and kind letters, advocating for better representation and sensitivity towards trans individuals.
- Outcome: Six newspapers acknowledged their wrongdoing without her demanding apologies or retractions. She later became a member of a panel that advises on media ethics regarding reporting on gender and diversity.
- Key Takeaway: Personal actions can lead to significant changes in media standards and societal perceptions.
Tiffani Ashley Bell - Addressing Water Injustice
- Background: Tiffani is a humanitarian programmer who started the Human Utility project after learning about widespread water shutoffs in Detroit.
- Initial Discovery: Inspired by a news article, she recognized the dire situation where many residents lost access to water due to unpaid bills, which disproportionately affected low-income communities.
- DIY Response:
- Action Taken: Using her programming skills, Tiffani created a website to connect people willing to help pay water bills with those in need.
- Impact: Over $100,000 was raised in the first 40 days to assist families, demonstrating the power of grassroots efforts.
- Key Takeaway: Individual initiative can create effective support systems to address urgent community needs.
Emily Pilloton-Lam - Empowering Young Women in Construction
- Background: Emily is an architect and educator who founded Girls Garage, a nonprofit organization aimed at teaching design and construction skills to young women and gender-expansive youth.
- Purpose of Girls Garage: To create a supportive and inclusive environment where girls can learn technical skills, breaking down gender stereotypes in construction.
- Achievements: Over 1,000 students have been trained, and they have completed more than 150 pro bono projects for their communities.
- Key Takeaway: Empowering underrepresented groups in technical fields can reshape industries and create equitable opportunities.
Jack Corbett - Simplifying Economics via TikTok
- Background: Jack is a videographer for NPR's Planet Money, using TikTok to make economics accessible and entertaining.
- Content Creation: His short, humorous videos explain complex economic concepts in layman's terms, reaching a broad audience.
- Engagement: Jack's approach has garnered significant attention on social media, making economic discussions more relatable and understandable.
- Key Takeaway: Creative use of social media can democratize knowledge and engage audiences in topics that are often seen as complicated or boring.
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Conclusion The episode emphasizes that when faced with problems, individuals have the power to take action and seek solutions. The stories shared illustrate diverse approaches to DIY initiatives, showcasing how personal responsibility and creativity can lead to meaningful change in communities.
Final Thoughts
- Empowerment Through Action: Each speaker's narrative highlights the importance of being proactive rather than waiting for systemic solutions.
- Community and Collaboration: The power of community support emerges as a crucial element in addressing societal issues.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This message comes from Charles Schwab with their original podcast, Choiceology. Choiceology is a show about the psychology and economics behind people's decisions. Download the latest episode of the latest. now is to dream big. Delivered at TED conferences. To bring about the future we want to see. Around the world. To understand who we are. From those talks, we bring you speakers and ideas that will surprise you. You just don't know what you're going to find. Challenge you. We truly have to ask ourselves, like, why is it noteworthy? And even change you. I literally feel like I'm a different person.
0:43Yes. Do you feel that way? Ideas worth spreading. From TED and NPR. I'm Manoush Zomorodi, and our story today begins one winter night in 2013 in an isolated area of Scotland. A small, like a hamlet, called Loch Eilert, fairly near the west coast of Scotland. So, yeah, a very remote place. This is Kate Stone. She's a physicist and the founder of an electronics company. But that night, she was on vacation. Some of my close friends, we spent the little time between Christmas and New Year in an Airbnb and we went out to the pub, drank lots of Guinness and some locals were playing music with their guitars and violins and things and we listened to the music and then they invited us to go back to their place which was a little shed in the garden where they played more music and drank more whiskey.
1:47So we said yes. And we followed our Pied Piper through the dark woods at midnight. I mean, it sounds like the perfect evening. It was perfect. It was all going well. And then something completely out of the dark happened. Something out of the dark happened, yes. I shouldn't really laugh. I think kind of what happened is the locals walked a little too fast, disappeared into the darkness. My friends fell behind, and I tried to be that person that stayed in the middle to keep the two groups together. So I ended up on my own in the darkness. The next thing Kate knew? I remember just feeling a massive thud hitting my chest, and then a second thud, and then falling to my knees, and then realizing there was a hole in my throat from where the deer's antler had gone.
2:38A stag, a deer with massive antlers, had mauled Kate. And I found out later that it stopped two millimeters before my spinal cord. And as I tried to call for help, it was really more of a gargle. Did you realize how, what had happened? I was conscious for 40 minutes. It took 20 minutes for an ambulance to come. You know, and my friend came to my side and the one thing she said to me was, just breathe. So I took my friend's advice and I put all my attention onto breath. lie very still and focus on the next breath in and then when you get there focus on the next breath out and then I asked myself the question of like you know am I happy with how I've lived my life and I'm like you know well I wish it was a bit longer you know and it's like it's as if my life was like you know a tv show a series and it's like like I'm the protagonist like I'm the main character in my show and they've written me out as a great season finale like come on a couple more seasons exactly so yeah so my end of season finale was me dying in the forest floor but i'm like i'm really proud of who i am what i've done okay it's time to go out but i'm going to go out calmly but you didn't go out you ended up being airlifted yes they operated on me reconstructed my throat and then they decided to put me in an induced coma.
4:08So yeah, it took a while to get back to reality. It was a slow process. You've come to in the hospital. You know what's happened. You know you've got a long road of recovery. When did you first know that this had made the newspapers, this had been in the press, your crazy freak accident, you know, tabloid papers love that kind of stuff. When did you figure that out? Yeah, that was a few weeks. You know, I gave myself the sort of the luxury of not being on an iPad or any social media or anything for probably, my memory is about a month, but that, you know, that could be wrong. So I tried to really keep away from that, said to my sister, has there been any, like, has it been in the news or anything?
4:51And she's like, oh, a little bit. She didn't tell me that newspapers wrote headlines such as sex swap scientist gored by stag. I just want to make it clear to the listener what ended up happening, which was that multiple newspapers, national papers like the Daily Mail, The Sun, your accident was featured in all of them. But what they did was put it into the headlines. They called you sex swap Kate. Some of them did. And in some ways, they made the story about your gender, not the accident. And I guess just explain to people how it felt to read that. So yes, I'm a trans woman, but calling me a sex swap scientist is derogatory and not pertinent to the story, but it implies that it is.
5:46And it tells everyone who sees that, which is probably a few million people that when you see someone that's trans you label them as someone that's trans to say you know hey tranny i'm talking to you you know when it's nothing to do with that it's offensive it's absolutely inappropriate but worst of all to me is it tells a nation that this is how you refer to a trans person they wanted to know former name dates of operation what operations you know they made that part of the story it's not part of the story it's absolutely irrelevant you know I was lay on a forest floor goled by a stag and they wanted to sensationalize it you know my children had to leave that home because of the camera crews outside they had to they had to leave where they were living to go somewhere else because people were interested in this um and wanted to ask inappropriate questions of people that knew me And so I was like, I have to do something.
6:48I know I can make a difference. I know I can't stop them from doing this. But I know I can make them less likely to do it. For Kate Stone, this invasion of privacy, well, it felt like the world had let her down. And as much as she wanted to lean on her family, her friends, her community, she realized she needed to take matters into her own hands. So today on the show, DIY. Stories and ideas about taking on institutions, companies, and stereotypes in ingenious ways. Because sometimes you just need to do it yourself. Back in her hospital bed, recovering from her injuries, Kate began strategizing on how to confront the UK press for sensationalizing her accident, and especially her identity.
7:41A warning, in this section we will mention suicide. I felt an overwhelming sense of responsibility and duty, and I'd seen what happens to other people. What came to my mind was, I think it might have been the previous year, a newspaper wrote a piece about a trans woman called Lucy Meadows, who transitioned as a school teacher. um and they wrote in that the headline um not only is she in the wrong body but she's in the wrong job and she then committed suicide oh gosh and it's heartbreaking and so i was like i know i can do something and if i don't and someone else dies that's on my hands as far as i was concerned So I knew I had to.
8:31And, you know, my kind of science brain is like identify the goal, which is reduce the chances of them doing this again to someone else. OK, identify, you know, the resources I have at hand, which is connecting with them, communicating with them, helping them see what they've done is wrong. And then identify what this is going to cost me and what this is going to cost me is my privacy. you know i take pride in talking about who i am as a scientist being outside of that open about being trans but not talking about it and i only don't talk about it because i want people to know but i want them also to know that i'm a pretty awesome creative scientist you know i want to to be open about being trans in a way where people who maybe have never met a trans woman and maybe are a little bigoted for one moment might be wow i hope my children turn out to be like her you know I want to be like that kind of role model so for me to have to sacrifice my privacy and tell 10 million people that's the price I will pay to you know hopefully achieve my goal here's Kate Stone on the TED stage I'm a kindness ninja I don't really know what a ninja does but to me they slip through the shadows crawl through the sewers skip across the rooftops before you know it they're behind you they don't turn up with an army or complain and they're laser are focused on a plan.
9:54And so I didn't attack them, and they were defenseless. And I wrote kind and calm letters to these newspapers. And the Sun newspaper, the kind of Fox News of the UK, thanked me for my reasoned approach. And I asked for no apology, no retraction, no money, just an acknowledgement that they broke their own rules, and what they did was just wrong. and on this journey I started to learn who they are and they began to learn who I am and we actually became friends and after three months they all agreed and the statements were published on a Friday and that was the end of that or so they thought on the Saturday I went on the evening news and with the headline six national newspapers admit they are wrong and the anchor said to me but don't you think it's our job as journalists to sensationalize a story?
10:46And I said, I was laying on a forest floor gored by a stag. Is that not sensational enough? And I was now writing the headlines, and my favorite one was, the stag trampled on my throat and the press trampled on my privacy. And it was the most read piece of BBC News online that day, and I was kind of having fun. I mean, you didn't ask for a retraction, right? You didn't ask for, did you ask for an apology? Like, what did you actually ask for in your letters? so in the uk the the press is self-regulated so most of the press sign up to the independent press standards organization and there's a set of rules by which they have to abide by about reporting around um you know diversity um or around gambling or suicide or all those types of things so i just asked them to acknowledge that it was wrong and acknowledge that it broke the rules and i asked for that to be published in the press gazette which is an industry newspaper that's really not read by the public but i got it i wanted it on record and they responded in a really kind and slightly shocked way you know philippa kennedy the ombudsman for the sun was like wow we actually really respect the way you've approached us they couldn't understand why i wasn't angry and i think i felt i felt a sense that other people maybe in my community were angry at me too for not using it as an opportunity to get people fired or to actually bring a formal complaint and get a judgment against them get a ruling made against them i just didn't feel for me that was the most effective thing to do i just like to say i'm not an angry activist i'm a happy healer That's a nice way to put it.
12:42Because I can see myself in these people. Like, I just feel that for the grace of God, you know, like I can see myself in these other people. I can see why they have their perspective from the journey that they've taken. In a minute, how Kate's budding relationship with reporters evolved. On the show today, ideas about doing it yourself. I'm Manoush Zomorodi, and you're listening to the TED Radio Hour from NPR. Stay with us.
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15:29And you'll be supporting public radio. Listener support is crucial to keeping us going. Go to plus.npr.org slash TED or give it a try right in the Apple Podcasts app. It's the TED Radio Hour from NPR. I'm Manoush Zomorodi. And on the show today, DIY. Ideas about rolling up your sleeves and fixing things yourself. And we were just talking to physicist and engineer Kate Stone. Kate had a terrible accident in 2013, which the British media sensationalized, along with her transgender identity. What I saw is on the Daily Mail online article, I saw like 180 comments and 179 of those comments were saying the way you've spoken about her and spoken about her being trans is inappropriate.
16:31So I saw an industry that was out of touch and old fashioned. So it was really about holding a mirror up and all it was going to take is a gentle nudge and done in a kind way. So you got all six newspapers that had written about you to admit that they were wrong. And then what? What happened was I was encouraged by the newspaper industry to apply to this committee that writes these rules, which is formed of the editors, chaired by, at the time, the Daily Mail editor. so you have this room filled with the editors who make these decisions deciding what their own rules should be it was recommended to them that they include three members of the public and they put me on that panel and six years later i still sit on that panel oh you do yeah in the room with the editors who respect me as a member of the public who has a brain and can contribute usually nearly exclusively about things that have nothing to do with being trans.
17:31I'm just a smart woman in the room who has a seat at the table. That makes a difference. And, you know, people will show, can show and say how they still do some of these things. But I know, you know, a report was commissioned and it showed that one of the biggest impact on the press in the last decade to do with trans reporting was what I did. So I know it made a difference. I just don't claim it changed everything. No, but it goes to show that one person taking charge of a situation and being willing to sacrifice yet more of their privacy can have an impact. Yeah. I think there's three things that decides what goes in the newspaper.
18:09One is what the editor decides. The other is the fact that you click on it and read it as a reader. And the other is that you buy the products that are advertised in that newspaper. And as members of the public, we have to realize we hold the power over two after three of those levers. We can choose to not buy a product and we can choose to not click. Every time you click, you are the reason that thing is there. So, you know, we do have the power. We have two thirds of the power. Do you see yourself as an activist? Because there are some people who might think, well, Well, this approach, one woman doing it herself, that can't be scaled.
18:53She needs to join, you know, organizations, activist organizations that are trying to change laws, that are trying to change not just the way one industry works, but the way society works. What would you say to that? I think it depends on the circumstance, right? you know sometimes joining the movement being an activist by joining another group is the right thing to do but sometimes you know we can be in such an independent moment where we can see how we can make an impact by doing something directly ourselves by not aligning us with other people and how other people do things that sometimes the most effective way is to do it yourself and honestly personally i i'd rather be that one person that tries to make a change that no one ever notices or hears and that change never happens than the millionth person that joins the million person march um because you know the biggest movement potentially can come from the individual who just says enough.
20:02And so we should not be oppressed by our own feeling of insignificance. We should always speak out, even when we tell ourselves no one's going to care, because it actually makes a difference. I kind of believe in like, I call a quantum state of mind, which is everything is possible. Everything has a probability. Are those newspapers going to be mean to me, probably, but probably means they might not be as well. Everything in the future is a possibility. And our job is to try and change the odds so that in the moment, they're more likely to do the thing you want them to do. And that's the way I look at the world.
20:45That's physicist and engineer Kate Stone. She's the founder of the tech company Novalia, and you can see both of her TED Talks at TED.com. On the show today, ideas about doing it yourself. And for our next speaker, well, her story starts by doing not much at all, just scrolling through social media. Yeah, so this was July 2014. And at that time, I fully would use Twitter and social media, but mostly Twitter as a sort of newspaper and just scroll through my timeline for any sort of news just to see what was happening in the world. This is Tiffany Ashley Bell. And on that day in 2014, one news story caught her eye.
21:35I ran across an article that talked about how people in Detroit were about to have to live without running water. The article was in The Atlantic and the headline read, what happens when Detroit shuts off the water of 100 ,000 people? At the time, I was a consultant for the city of Atlanta. So seeing the story where another major city was going to shut off the water of a ton of people made me, you know, intrigued and confused. And so I also just decided to read it. The crew came out this morning and cut her off by... What she learned was pretty jarring. For months, trucks had been going street by street, shutting off the water to nearly anyone who was overdue on their bills.
22:20I can't take a bath. I can't wash up. I don't have water to do anything. And it's me and my three children. So people had started collecting rainwater. I think we're going into a third world direction. Others walked to relatives' houses to fill up jugs or take showers. My neighbors who don't have water can come and get water. Even child custody was at risk. A child living in a home without basic utilities like water is living in a dwelling that's like the legal language, unfit for habitation. And when that's a thing, then that child can be removed from that home. Turns out water in Detroit costs twice the national average.
23:00And one out of three residents live below the poverty line. So sometimes they just can't afford to pay for water. Tiffany also learned that the shutoff started after Detroit declared bankruptcy in 2013. So a lot of it had to do with the city being under emergency management. The day we decided to file for Chapter 9 protection. Chapter 9 filing came today. Detroit faces a long-term debt estimated at a whopping$18 to$20 billion. Detroit had a lot of bond debt that they needed to pay. And so the solution the city had at that time to collect the money they were not collecting was just to shut people off.
23:41And so what I ended up seeing was people who were in truly dire straits effectively being bullied by the local government. And that's what really triggered me. Let's be honest, most of us probably would have read the article, retweeted and moved on. Not Tiffany. Here is Tiffany Ashley Bell on the TED stage. To me, how they were being treated and how easy it was to simply deny them something that we all need to live was disgusting. It's disgusting. But to me, this also felt personal, even though I have no direct family ties to Detroit. And here's why. Many of the people who were facing shutoffs were black.
24:31Many were also, like myself, black women. And Lord knows it's not the first time in the United States that black people have been denied basic human rights, like water. So to me, that created an overwhelming urge to do something, to help. I mean, I couldn't just read that and then go on about my day. Then it became a question of what can I, sitting in my pajamas as one person at home, actually do? Well, what? Oh, oh, but wait. I'm a programmer. And a heavy, heavy social media user. So I decided to tweet. I hate to hear people suffering and dealing with what is turning into a completely undignified situation.
25:18People are without water. July 17th, 2014 at 2.10 p.m. Is there a directory of any sort where people from Detroit can go for water relief? 4.05 p.m. Info on what people owe Detroit for water is online. 10.26 a.m., 10.27 a.m., 10.28 a.m. We want to connect people who need water bill assistance to folks who are willing to help. Over the course of a few hours of back and forth about what to do, we resolved to do the simplest, most obvious thing. We decided to pay some water bills. To do that, I spent a few hours digging around on the water company's website. And I found something interesting that sort of jump-started what to do for people.
26:06For some reason, there was a 400-page PDF of customers on the website that the water company couldn't deliver their bills to through the mail. One of the things that was interesting about this list is that it also included account numbers for people. So you could just take one of those account numbers and at that time, plug it into the website and see everything about that account. So I did that. And one of the things that was interesting, though, there was that I saw a make a payment button. So the idea then became, what if we got the account numbers of people that needed help and then made payments for them?
26:41So a few hours later, I built a website to find those people and start connecting them to people that needed help. So you build the website. You figure out a way to get people who maybe have some money and are mad like you that people can't pay their water bills, that there's a way to pay them. And you just put it out on Twitter? Like, what happened then? Yeah, so we just tweeted it. My former co-founder and I, we just tweeted it. And, you know, people saw that and they began to pay some bills themselves. I heard from people over the years that they saw the same article and just were like, oh, this is great.
27:22I'm happy I can actually help somebody. That's how in the first 40 or so days of doing this, we paid over$100 ,000 in water bills by just simply. Thank you. Thank you. by just simply sending people directly to the utility company's website to pay$5,$10, whatever they could afford. I mean, so it's a decade later, basically, since that July day, and the Detroit Water Project is now called the Human Utility. Do you remember when there was a moment where you thought, maybe this is something that needs to help cities beyond Detroit? I think some of the earliest stories and, you know, despite the fact that our website originally said Detroit, people from other places just started filing applications and asking if we could help where they were.
28:18And that's that's always happened. We've had people ask for our assistance in most of the states in the U.S. basically. And then also we ask on the application to what people's situations are. And it's, you know, a lot of the same stuff. People lost their jobs or there was a death in the family. We've had people who have gotten terminally ill and they can't work. And utilities don't have a lot of resources for folks, even in just that situation. So we've helped in a lot of situations that are pretty common across different cities. I'm sure you've heard all of the criticism out there. This is a much greater problem than what you're tackling, isn't it?
29:04I mean, people need water to live. It's just that simple. What do you say to people who say, you know, that's a very nice short-term solution that you've created, but how do we change things fundamentally? I mean, I hear them. I think it's a valid criticism. You know, some people have referred to us as a band-aid solution. And a band-aid at least, you know, an appropriately sized band-aid at least gets you into the healing process. You know, I also want to emphasize that we're not the only ones that are doing something around this problem. There are a lot of activists and researchers and policymakers who are looking at this issue.
29:47And I think, you know, for us, we essentially give people a bridge to be able to still maintain access to water while these other folks are doing work around policy change. I always sort of believe we shouldn't exist, honestly. It would be great in 10, 15 years if we didn't have to do this for people because water is affordable in the first place. So what has been the response from utility companies, places like the Detroit water system? What do they think of what you've done? Do you talk to them? Yeah, we do. We do. I will say and just be honest, initially, they were not happy to see us. We didn't mean to do this, but I think we embarrassed them as far as having a program in place that worked in certain ways before they did.
30:34But I think we've really tried to do the work and built a lot of relationships with people at utilities so that they know we're not, you know, we're not there to antagonize them in certain ways. We're just there to help people. And once they see that you sort of have the same imperative they do, they want to serve the public and things like that, it's easier to work with people. When you put together and you start doing something that's imperfect, people will see what you're doing and they'll want to join you, make what you're doing bigger, more impactful, more meaningful, but all in ways unique to themselves.
31:10For us, that was the city employees who answered our emails on weekends and then during the week drove people to appointments to get their water turned back on. It was the people in mutual aid groups and nonprofits that partnered with us to completely pay off the water bills for some families. It was the people who actually really made this work possible, some of whom had been in this situation themselves a few years prior, where they couldn't afford their own bills, but they now could, so they were generous about it. It was the people who held bake sales to help people that they didn't know and would never meet.
31:49And people will see you walking the walk, and they'll understand that that compassion is contagious. There's something incredibly, like, simple in some ways or forthright. You read about a problem. You got the information, figured out a system, built the thing, got people's bills paid, and then the water gets turned back on. It really is that simple. But what really seems like the hardest part to me in some ways is not continuing to scroll in Twitter, stopping and deciding that in some ways the buck was going to stop with you. Yeah. Again, I think some of that is just my personality. and for me as a black woman in the united states when you see like your people being impacted by something that's just indefensible at least for me it was easy to try to do something and i also um i'm a military brat and i grew up not wanting for anything we didn't want for clothes water, food, housing.
33:00And I just think that should be the baseline we provide for everybody. Those are just human rights for me. But yeah, people really were enthusiastic about having a really simple, transparent way of helping their fellow man, basically. It was the case of if you build it, they will come. I think so. That's not always true. But I think it was a very emotional thing for people. Everybody sees problems in this country. People are not blind to the suffering of others, but there often is a sort of question of what can I do? People tell me this all the time. You made it very easy to do something. And I think just that resonated with people.
33:46Tiffany Ashley Bell is the executive director of The Human Utility. You can see her full talk at TED.com. And a quick note, the city of Detroit is now piloting a water affordability program with 2 % of its residents. You're listening to the TED Radio Hour from NPR. I'm Manoush Zomorodi, and we'll be right back.
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35:10Oh, I could talk about tools all day long. My true favorite is a Makita Impact Driver. It is the best tool for driving screws. It makes a very satisfying noise. It's like a da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, but like way louder. And screws just go in like butter. This is Emily Peloton-Lam. She has always loved building. Even as a young four or five-year-old, I was really drawn to the physical world, like building forts, going out in the forest, and like making ad hoc tree houses. And so it helped me feel like, okay, I'm able to shape my own world. When she was 16, Emily worked on her first construction site.
35:55And that was the first time when the idea of a career in building became tangible and real for me. So she decided to study architecture in college and then in grad school. And I loved my architectural education. I really, really did. But I think some of the rose-colored glasses came off when I left graduate school, and I was met with a little bit of disappointment that the love that I found of building physical things was kind of lost within the architectural profession. And she noticed something else. Within the construction trades, only 11 % of jobs are filled by women. And then on an actual construction site, only 4%.
36:41So there's a huge gender imbalance. And I have walked onto construction sites. I've walked into rooms where I have to do this social calculus and think like, how do I prove that I'm smart enough to be here? How much am I going to volunteer? How much am I going to show what I know? How much am I going to just like sit back and try to understand the dynamic here? And it's exhausting. It's frankly exhausting. So when she turned 26, Emily decided to call a timeout on her career. It was a way for me to say, like, look, I don't know how I'm going to practice architecture, but I know how I'm not going to practice it.
37:21I kept thinking about young people, like how do young people think about space? What kind of future are we building together? And so I was super interested in these like one-off, really small, really localized projects that lived in your community. And within a couple months, I was standing in front of a class of students in a barn that we had turned into a woodshop. She got a job teaching a co-ed woodworking class at a high school in North Carolina. Yeah, at a public high school within a town of about 2 ,000 people in a way that really hadn't been taught before. Thinking about shop class as a mechanism for community service instead of like, let's build birdhouses to take home to our moms.
38:09So you're looking at these kids and are they looking at you blankly or are they thinking like, yeah, let's do this? I think it was a little bit of both. I mean, this is a school district where everything is pretty standard. You have five class periods. You have English, math, science, maybe an elective and a language. So to say, guess what? You're in this design build shop class now. There was a lot of like, huh? And what about the gender thing? Did you see it playing out there? The class itself did have more boys in it. It was about two thirds boys, but pretty much everyone's skill level was about the same.
38:43I mean, my female students knew how to use the chop saw as well as any of their male counterparts. The biggest difference that I saw was just in that social calculus. I would say like, hey, I need someone to go cut 10 pieces at 96 inches on the chop saw. And I could just see that brief moment of hesitation where my female students would look around and be like, should I raise my hand? Like if I'm the first person to raise my hand and say, I will do it. Who's going to be rolling their eyes at me? Like, what is that saying about the boys in the room? Are they feeling threatened? Like, these are not things we should be thinking about, but they're so ingrained in us.
39:24There was an ongoing and ever-present and nagging voice in my head that I think came from my own experiences on construction sites, in architecture firms, there is a very gender dynamic within really any industry that is responsible for the built environment, architecture, engineering, construction trades. And as I was teaching these classes, I started to feel that that gendered dynamic was also something that my female students were experiencing, even with me as a woman, as their teacher. And that was really the moment when I realized my female students really deserve to have a safe space. We must create intentional spaces for the next generation of tradeswomen to learn technical skills while being unconditionally supported by a community of other women.
40:18Here's Emily Pilliton-Lam on the TED stage. So in 2008, I founded a non-profit to teach design and construction skills to middle and high school students, specifically young women of color. Now, nearly 14 years later, that nonprofit, Girls Garage, has taught over 1 ,000 girls and gender-expansive youth how to use power tools, weld, draft construction documents, and work on a job site. And together, we have built over 150 pro bono projects for other nonprofits in our community. When young women walk into girls' garage, they're acknowledged as capable and whole. They're taught by female instructors who are architects and carpenters and welders, who've lived lives and who've walked paths similar to their own.
41:16When a student uses the chop saw for the very first time, I'm standing right next to them saying, you got this. And these are the things that make the difference. And so the next generation of tradeswomen, our students, will enter the trades knowing what it feels like to be respected and valued and will know how to demand it when they're not. Hi, I'm Erica Chu. I'm 21 years old, so I've been part of Girls Garage for a decade now. When I completed my first weld, I was 11 years old. And you can imagine a little girl in this big welding gear with the shield on. You have to put your hair up. And I do remember being very timid, seeing those flames for the first time.
42:12I mean, I've never felt that power of fusing two metal pieces together. It was exhilarating. I always say, like, how many 11-year-old girls do you know that can weld? In college, I'm studying civil and environmental engineering with a focus in construction management. Learning how to build and construct really made me want to apply that into the real world and learn how to work in construction. Emily, your students are growing up. I mean, it is clear that you and Girls Garage made a huge difference in Erica's life. But I just read a statistic that the number of young people applying for technical jobs fell by half last year compared to 2020.
43:09I mean, this country is facing a big problem. We are not going to have enough people to build new bridges or roads or fix our infrastructure. Yeah, the legacy of vocational education is a complicated one, right? So I think we're kind of up against this pejorative history of like vocational used to be the track for kids that aren't going to go to college, right? It was for quote unquote, those kids, which is horrible. I think our role in helping young people think about their careers is to ask, how do you take that power that you feel when you're welding and bring that into your college applications or your gap year or your job?
43:51We've had over 100 graduates and alumna, and between a third and half have gone into a field related to the built environment. So that includes architecture or engineering or design or directly into the trades. For women, a job in construction can pay more than twice the hourly wage of a comparable job in child care or health aid work. And while the gender pay gap in the U.S. hovers around 82 cents earned by women for every male-earned dollar, in construction, the pay gap is nearly non-existent at 99 cents to the dollar.
44:33The trades desperately need women, too. With over 300 ,000 jobs left unfilled, women are a hugely untapped labor pool. And this is a time when the demand for infrastructure is only growing. We already understand the value of having more women in historically male-dominated spaces, like politics, C-suites, and STEM. What is it going to take for tradeswomen to take part and to take over?
45:10Your talk is called, What If Women Built the World? they want to see. In your mind, what does that world look like? Yeah, so women do experience the built environment very differently than men. We think about safety. We think about how we navigate space with our families or with friends. And so I think a world built by women is more inclusive in its thinking about how the physical world serves people. And it's about rethinking the really old and tired narratives about who gets to build the world, that the authorship should not just be owned by white men, that we all deserve a say in what our world looks like.
45:57That was Emily Pilliton-Lam. She is the founder and executive director of Girls Garage, a nonprofit that teaches design and construction to girls and gender expansive youth. And many thanks to Erica Chu. You can see Emily's full talk at TED.com. So we've talked about people taking on the media, utility companies, gender stereotypes, and we want to end our episode on DIY with an individual who is taking on economics on social media. Because social media is, of course, a place where anyone, anywhere can make anything and reach millions. Yep, I'm recording. This is NPR's very own Jack Corbett. But you won't hear him on air.
46:50I make TikToks for planet money. Yep. TikTok. Jack's job is making short, surreal TikTok videos for NPR's planet money. Videos that explain how the economy works. And what's happening when it doesn't work. Take the collapse of the Silicon Valley Bank. We made a video that just kind of went through all the processes, explained, you know, fractional reserve lending, how bonds and the bank run in pretty layman's terms. Just like, yeah, simplify it. Welcome to Silicon Valley Bank. I'd like to withdraw all my money. Yeah, our vote is kind of out of money. If you've never seen Jack's work, picture a very tall young man acting out strange skits where he plays all the parts that end up describing financial fundamentals.
47:41So you guys screwed up. Well, no, this is how Bankst works. We only keep a fraction of our total reserves available for lending or for withdrawals at any one point. It's called fractional reserve lending. It's great. Unless everyone tries to withdraw their money all at once. Oh, so I can have my money. No, everyone tried to withdraw their money all at once. Jack writes, shoots, stars in, and edits the videos. It's like amateur, but not in the amateur bad. Like amateur, just do it for fun. Even though I do it for work. And if you're thinking the audio from these videos sounds terrible, that's kind of the point.
48:18It's a very low-budget kind of thing. Which is why he does his own sound effects. That's the great thing about TikTok. You can get weird. You think it's so weird. In fact, Jack's Dada-esque, hacked-together style has helped grow the Planet Money TikTok account to over 750 ,000 viewers. And made him social media famous in the process. Sometimes people will come up to me and they'll be like, so, like, fractional reserve lending. And I'm like, man, I'm off the clock. The film school student turned online educator thinks he knows why he's hit a nerve online. I think it's just like speaking their language.
48:56I mean, in film school, I would just read a bunch of like film theory papers and I became so frustrated with how like needlessly complicated all of these giant words and self-serving they were. And so I'm like, just like, just talk, talk like a normal person. Just like explain to me. It's like I'm from Ohio. It's like explain to an Ohio guy like me what's really going on. I, you know, I never studied economics. And so I would always hear these things, these terms like flying around. The S &P ended the day down 3.6%. We're talking about that debt ceiling debate now. Federal Reserve raising by one quarter point by 25 basis points.
49:34And no one was like explaining them in like a way that like I was keen on. I mean, like to just put it simply, it takes some time just to like find out like what really is going on. I did a video on tax brackets and I made it entirely just because my mom didn't know what they were. and like she thought that like you know if you made like a little bit more money that you would like ultimately make less money because you would go into a new bracket taxes are confusing but that's not how it works like uh the first ten thousand dollars you make is taxed at ten percent the next thirty thousand dollars is taxed at twelve percent between forty and eighty six thousand dollars it's taxed at twenty two percent you're never going to bump up into a new bracket and make less overall money and i was like you know there's going to be people in like my mom's position who like won't know this, but like there were so many more people than I thought.
50:25Even my manager came up to me and he's like, oh, I saw this one video about like tax brackets. That was like, you know, and I'm like, that was my video. It's like, you're, you're, you're, you're telling me about the video that I made. Um, and it's like, I never took any economics or financial literacy classes. I always thought it would be like, you know, either too complicated or too boring. But I don't know. It's not. It doesn't have to be. If you just talk normal, if you don't make it complicated, it's fun. Are you concerned at all? I mean, TikTok is in hot water here in the United States. I'm not thinking of this at all from like a national security perspective.
51:05I'm just thinking of this as like a guy who likes videos. I mean, worse, you know, if TikTok is banned, that would, that would, you know, that would stink for me. But in college, I didn't think I'd be doing TikTok. Tell me what you thought you'd be doing. I thought I'd be making like experimental documentaries and getting like maybe like 20 people into a theater to see them. Instead, you have millions, you're teaching millions of people about basic macroeconomics. I know. And I studied the least financially secure major out there probably, which is like experimental cinema. So, I mean, you know, I got that to fall back on.
51:46I got experimental cinema always. That was Jack Corbett. You can see his work on the TikTok app at Planet Money. Thank you so much for listening to our show this week, DIY. This episode was produced by Rachel Faulkner-White, Matthew Cloutier, Andrea Gutierrez, and Fiona Guerin. It was edited by Sanaaz Meshkinpour and me. Our production staff at NPR also includes James De La Hussey, Hersha Nahada, Lane Kaplan-Levinson, Katie Monteleone, and Julia Carney. Beth Donovan is our executive producer. Our audio engineer was Margaret Luthar. Our theme music was written by Ramteen Erablui. Our partners at TED are Chris Anderson, Colin Helms, Michelle Quint, Jimmy Gutierrez, Alejandra Salazar, and Daniela Ballarezzo.
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