A 2018 Redraft: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson at the top, and lessons we can learn from this loaded class

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2:41Robert Mays: Welcome to the Athletic Football Show I'm Robert Mays doing something a little bit different today We've never done a redraft on this podcast. I've been doing it for five years I don't know why we've never done any sort of redraft. A lot of other people do it. I understand the benefit of them. I understand why they're fun. It's never really particularly interested me as an exercise, but I have Dane, and so there's no reason to not do this every once in a while. That's where I landed with this. That's why we ultimately decided to do our first redraft here in the Drex of summer. I told Dane, you pick any draft from the past 15 years, essentially since the new rookie scale in 2011 and that CBA.

3:22Robert Mays: He went with the 2018 group, obviously tons of intrigue, a lot of quarterbacks, a lot of fun non-quarterbacks at the top of this draft at non-premium positions. So really enjoyed this, just kind of exploring the sliding doors moments, the what ifs, the paths not taken. So let's get to the 2018 NFL redraft with Dane Brugler right now.

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4:14Robert Mays: que se debe tener. Yo le hei, Dane, la pick de cualquier draft desde 2011 que se puede volver a la red. Y tú chose la 2018 draft, Dane. Así que es lo que estamos haciendo hoy. Sí, cuando se broughte esto, first off, yo estaba como, all right, este es un buen modo para romper mi summer considering que estoy viendo Wake Forest running backs ahora. Este es un buen modo para pivotar a la un poco de que mi eyes en la actual realmente buena football y, you know, voy a through some diferentes scenarios. Pero, sí, leívalo open-ended como eso, donde en un año de la cantidad de sample size de diferentes drafts, cada draft es tan diferente.

4:53Así que 2011 fue tan solo en la top 10, y 2012 nos dio un interesante quarterbacks con Luck y Russell Wilson, y todo eso, todo eso, todo eso. Pero yo went con 2018 porque, creo que, un poco de razón. 17 players from the first round Made at least one Pro Bowl so far That's rare Usually just hit rates 50-50 So to have more than half Of the first round make a Pro Bowl Is saying quite a bit I think just the five quarterbacks Drafted in the first round And in a redraft How different that order would be And the fact that it probably wouldn't be Unanimous maybe for everybody Just what the order of those five las que la luchadra் produzceIA podría ser.

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6:34Robert Mays: and I think the coolest layer to this es que hacer esto ahora es diferente de lo que hubiera sido en la semana. La idea de que es siete años después y aún estamos grabando información para hacer un ejercicio como este. Como Sam Darnold, por ejemplo. Sam Darnold, si no tiene el año pasado, no tiene el primer año. Él no tiene el primer año. Así que tenemos que hablar de eso. El que estamos hablando de Baker Mayfield ahora, compared a un poco de años atrás cuando estaba siendo cut por el Panthers, feels very different. And even Saquon after last season, I think you kind of have to reframe that a little bit.

7:08Robert Mays: And then it goes the other way as well, where you have some of these guys that if we had done this exercise, let's say two years ago, Jair Alexander is probably like a top 10 pick in something like this. When Jair Alexander just got released and signed for a couple million bucks by the Ravens. And then you have other guys who maybe a few years ago wouldn't have been drafted as high, but they're still top players at their positions. I'm thinking about Jesse Bates or DJ Reed, Carlton Davis. You kind of have to flip where some of the corners are. The tackles are really interesting based on how the last couple years have gone.

7:42Robert Mays: The Milota question, which you just brought up, I didn't know what to do with that. And so there are just so many different layers to this that I think are going to be really fun to dig into. The way that we're going to do this is that you're going to kind of give your picks for what you would do in a redraft. And then I'm going to throw some of my thoughts in there. And then I did this exercise as well. So I have ones that I went with and where we really differ. I think that we can talk about why there's a little bit of a gap there and maybe dig into that a little bit. Some of these we're going to spend very little time on because I think they're pretty obvious.

8:10Robert Mays: Some of them will spend a little bit more time on because there's a little bit more to chew on. So let's dig into this. Let's start with the Cleveland Browns who had the last note here. All the final draft order is what we went with. I'll be honest with you. I was not going to go back and untangle all of the draft day trades and all of the moves that happened with some of them. It is kind of silly, like the bills wouldn't be picking at seven if they weren't trading up for Josh Allen. So that one, maybe we could have done something about it. But I think just going with the final draft order and rolling with that made things a little bit easier for us on July 1st.

8:43Robert Mays: So that's what we're going to go with today. So let's start with the Cleveland Browns. They actually took Baker Mayfield with the number one overall pick. Who would you be drafting right now in the 2018 draft with some hindsight if you were the Cleveland Browns? con el beneficio de hindsight creo que la dos cuartas Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson I went Josh Allen que era rumored a ser en la short list de la Browns way back then fue Baker Mayfield fue Josh Allen Sam Darnold had some love there for a little bit this was John Dorsey GM at that time Hugh Jackson was the head coach and that was a disaster you know is Josh Allen that we know today still the Josh Allen if he goes to Cleveland who knows you know it Hugh Jackson Freddy Kitchens does Josh Allen survive that and still come out the other side with a Kevin Stefanski and be this superstar that we know that he is who knows you know no one can say that but it with the benefit of hindsight I'm taking Josh Allen there at number one I think you could make an argument that it works out better for Josh Allen than it might have for some of these other quarterbacks because the La situación Josh Allen was dropped into as a rookie was not good.

9:56Robert Mays: It was very, very bad. The Rick Denison was the offensive coordinator. He lasted one year there with the Bills. The pass catchers, we'll talk about that group a little bit later because the Bills have another pick in this first round. So I think that even if the Bills set him up for some success by some of the decisions they made in the coming years, he did work through some really bad situations early in his career and still worked out fine. Obviously, the work he's done on his own and just how he took control Yo no quiero cobrar apoyos del JK IFES lonosisó claro porque no libraneras coешь mane warming los triple Memo fino a Badí rewindo, el товario de Grifo y creo que se puede poner un cambio 35 de bebé me bailenう y translator texas que tomó Bay 요 en particularmente enviando la ubicarica de nivel de compito en todas las primeras capas que decimos a proyect f digestína II en muuj arrested como criar stones y todo el caso de entran 2007 stage Ha bro de porque fue así que Eli Manni, aunque era 37 entonces, era un año si no, era dos años de hecho.

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11:50Robert Mays: Si se ha llegado a sit en New York Para el año de Eli Manning Es probablemente un buen día Y así no hubiera de estarlo Así que hay muchas cosas Lindo donde Lamar Jackson Would haber sido el correcto pick Si los Browns No teníamos a la primera Yo me acuerdo People diciendo How wildly different Lamar Jackson style of play Compared a Eli Manning You could say the same thing About Joe Flacco y mario jackson en baltimore y que funcionó bien así que con el beneficio de hindsight este es un no-brainer 1 y 2, lo que sea lo que sea que se ha en el este uno de 3, lo que se ha un poco interesante porque se puede ir a un montón de diferentes direcciones obviamente en 3 en el 2018 draft el Jets took Sam Darnold hay un argumento para Baker Mayfield pero hay un argumento para otros players porque no sé si se sabe si Baker Mayfield survives the Jets situation in the same way that Sam Darnold struggled to survive it so which direction did you go at three for the Jets after they took Sam Darnold in 2018 I went Baker Mayfield I mean I think this is a Jets team still searching for a quarterback you know I mean it's and you know you have to kind of take your shot and Baker what he did because he survived the Cleveland debacle with Hugh Jackson and then Freddie Kitchens and first year with Kevin Stefanski you know he leads Browns a playoff win so you know it's something that it feels like baker mayfield has reinvented himself quite a few times now in the nfl and he probably would have had to do that with the jets and no i mean he might not be still be on the jets uh if they drafted him in that draft who knows but i'm at least rolling the dice that he's able to figure things out and you you have a quarterback in new york that can be the guy something they haven't had you know for quite a while so i did go Baker Mayfield there at three, but it's not like it was a slam dunk where it is no brainer like the first two picks.

13:51Robert Mays: The first two picks are easy. This one's a little bit more difficult. The first what if I think is worth asking, what if the Browns just never traded Baker Mayfield? I think that's a conversation that we should probably revisit at some point because we would just think so much differently about the Browns and they would be in such a different position right now. I just feel like they'd una de las mejores historias en la entera liga si hubiera que se quedara con Baker Mayfield porque si hubiera que pagar Baker Mayfield a la final de su rique deal, no se hubiera que lo que hiciera para Deshaun Watson y el draft picks.

14:24Robert Mays: Justo que el Browns se hubiera en una situación diferente. En el momento que se hizo que se hizo que Baker Mayfield limitó a la ceilidad. Deshaun Watson gives us un limitado ceiling, no considerando lo que el floor for both of those players looked like. Y así, es un fascinante lo que que creo que es probable que reexamina en un poco más depth at some point. I did not go with Baker Mayfield to the Jets for this reason. I just have so many horrific memories of Sam Darnold behind that offensive line with the Jets that part of me just wanted to atone for what those teams felt like in New York. And so I was just so tempted to just throw an offensive tackle on this team.

15:01Robert Mays: Kelvin Beachum was kind of like a mild stopgap left tackle for the Jets at that point. And then Brandon Schell was the right tackle. And so you can make an argument for a bunch of different tackles here. I think they're all kind of grouped together in the non Jordan Milata tier which we'll get to a little bit later but Colton Miller Brian O 'Neill Orlando Brown Jr like if you're stacking up just starting tackles in the league they're probably all grouped similarly I went with Colton Miller just because if you put him on the right side for a year he could probably move to the left side he's shown an ability to do that and he's just a more than capable left tackle which are hard to find but I I could see you going with a couple different tackles here, and I could see you going with the guy that we both had at four, which I think is a little bit easier to land on.

15:44Robert Mays: So the Browns at four in the original draft went with Denzel Ward. Who did you have them picking here in the redraft? So I really consider Denzel Ward here. I think it really came down to two players for me, Denzel Ward and Fred Warner. I ended up going Fred Warner. You can make the argument he's the best non-quarterback That come out of this draft class Even though he does play a Non-premium position A linebacker who isn't Going to give you a ton of blitzing As a pass rusher At least that's not his forte But the way he impacts the entire defense In coverage, snap to snap He's still doing it at a high High level to this day So for the Browns Josh Allen at 1, Fred Warner at 4 ¿Cómo se puede hacer que la gente tiene dos pilares en ambos lados de la bola?

16:39Eso es que me hacía lean hacia Warner sobre la choc pick, que fue hecho con Denzel Ward.

16:48Robert Mays: El blindador considerado en la top 5, part de la razón es un gran propósito para draft a linebacker high en la primera o en la primera round es que es un muy difícil posición para projectar moving forward. Like that's part of the downside is that we don't really know which linebacker traits are always going to translate that and safety. I think that there's just a lot of murkiness and projecting guys to the next level. Well, if you know a guy is going to be a Hall of Fame player at that position, the impact is still there. And so all of that uncertainty gets wiped away in an exercise like this.

17:22Robert Mays: And I think it's very easy to plug Fred Warner into there. y uno de los otros consideraciones con Warner es que muchos de estos chicos incluso en los primeros de la primera de esta draft, son de los que se acercan son de vacilaciones en play sobre los últimos 7 años, con Warner no ha sido nada de eso, he empezó a 115 games en 7 años, he ha sido uno de los más reliable players en la league, along con el mejor player en su posición este fue un muy fácil para mí, y también, creo que la única razón de que no ha haberlo a 3 a 3 a 3 Jets, es porque yo tengo los memories de los Jets, los offensive lines y Sam Darnoldo en mi head y no quiero vivir como que.

18:01No, eso es. Y como dije, esto es un weird draft porque no Miles Garrett, no Nick Bosa, no Malik Nabors, la receiver, la rusa, no es que no es un un hombre que es que es el este es el top non-cuartelar, este es el derecho que se se va. So, yeah, for everything that you said with Fred Warner kind of is the reason why the next pick at number five with the Broncos, I went Saquon Barkley. It's, you know, running back is a position where, yes, you can find it later on. There's going to be a lot of running backs in every draft. But when you know exactly the type of player you're getting and we had a good idea before the draft, that's why he was the second overall pick.

18:46cómo talento y él es, cómo gifted de un atlete. Pero viendo lo que hemos visto con él en el NFL, el impacto que él hace, especialmente este año en Philly, lo que ha sido en Denver a 5, un equipo que necesitaba un cuarto. Yo sé que esto ha sido dicho antes, pero es increíble que Elwaya no se drafta Josh Allen a 5. I mean, it es... Y yo, Elwaya ha llamado el el principal mistake de su GM tenure, pero es que en el momento, pero incluso en el momento, es muy sorprendido que que era su tipo de quarterback. Y ellos necesitaban un quarterback a ese momento. Así, no sé. Es sorprendido. Pero en este situación, con los tres cuartosos de la mesa, yo acabo de ir a sacar un Barclay

19:32Robert Mays: ahí a cinco. Bueno, así que entiendo cómo es lo que pasa, ¿no? Porque, en la vista de la vista, es así que decirlo, ¿no? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, en there. Well, they were just coming off of the Paxton Lynch experience after drafting Paxton Lynch in the first round. They signed Case Keenum that offseason to one of those veteran quarterback deals that has never worked out ever. Guys who are sort of career backups that have that one flash season where they play really well and then get rewarded in free agency. I'm sure there's some example hiding out there that I'm not thinking of, but guys like the Nick Foles contract in Jacksonville, the Case Quintam contract here the Mike Glennon deal he didn't even play well to get that deal but like any sort of contract like that I think the history of those is very bad but I think they just wanted some sort of stability and certainty and so they signed Case Quintam and free agency that you're coming off the Paxton Lynch thing and they didn't need a quarterback because they had just paid one like 18 million dollars a year we all know how that worked out the next year they were on the same train doing it with Joe Flacco so finding a quarterback here I think was the priority for me as I went back to do it.

20:41Robert Mays: And in my version of this, Baker Mayfield is still available. So it was very easy for me to just drop Baker Mayfield onto the Broncos and kind of correct their quarterback issues. What was it? Six years before they eventually did it. Right. Yeah. And it's fascinating because, and that's the intrigue with the draft, because you can't, you have to learn from your draft mistakes. No doubt about it. You have to learn from everything. Pero al mismo tiempo, no puedes dejar past mistakes dictar la manera que se mueve. Así que es un buen line de walk porque hay que aprender de lo que se mueve. Pero al mismo tiempo, no puedes dejar que lo influencia la manera que se mueve.

21:22Así que, sí, sí, están bien. Ellos fueron al contrario, la otra parte del espectro. Y, de hecho, no funcionó. Y la answer era de los que se sentía en frente de ellos el tiempo. Pero, sí, eso es un interesante lo que si en Broncos historia, no doubt.

21:38Robert Mays: Let's get to the Colts at 6 In the original draft they took Quentin Nelson I was very tempted to just have them Do the same thing all over again Because Quentin Nelson has been a very very good player What did you do for the Colts at number 6? That's exactly what I did Quentin Nelson's been just a rock solid player And again we talked about Think about the first three non-quarterbacks drafted We've got a linebacker, a running back And now a guard It's really fascinating the way that That has played out for me and my order We can argue about Whether you can find guards later And all of that Nelson's just been a And I know maybe every season hasn't been an all pro season But he's been above average Since he's been in the league And he still has plenty of really good seasons left We're paying guards $25 million a year now I think it's okay if you feel like you have a Pro Bowl caliber guard for a decade To plug him in at number 6 overall In this draft And it was, I think for me here, you probably could throw Saquon Barkley in here just because I haven't had him go off the board yet, but this is a conversation about running backs and about what you need to do for running backs.

22:48Robert Mays: Saquon Barkley, without that season last year with the Eagles, do you think we'd be talking about Saquon Barkley in the top five of a redraft like this? I don't know if we would necessarily. And I think that speaks to how important a situation is for running backs. I mean, Saquon is such an example of what happens when you take a guy from an awful spot to a really good one and what he's capable of. I still feel like there's so many components necessary for all of that to line up that it's tempting for me just to take a guy like Quentin Nelson, who I know can be whatever he's going to be independent of anything else you put around him.

23:23Robert Mays: So I think that's why it was kind of easy for me to just throw Quentin Nelson back on the Colts and save Saquon for a little bit further down the draft. I also just with some of these it was just fun to have the team take the same player. It's like oh this works out really well just have him do this again. And then the next couple picks there are also I made some decisions based on what I enjoyed as part of the exercise. In these coin flip moments I think that you have to entertain yourself as much as anything. So we both had Quentin Nelson going at six to the Colts. Who did you have going at seven to the Buffalo Bills?

23:54Robert Mays: Again acknowledging that they probably wouldn't be drafting here if they didn't trade up for Josh Allen. I had him going with Denzel Ward Who He could have gone Any of the first or these last three spots I think He has been a top seven corner In the league for some time now If not for the injuries We'd be talking about him even more So when he's healthy And on the field He is one of the best in the NFL At a position that's very hard to play So a premium position I'm getting him at number seven si yo soy el me siento muy bien para eso si yo absolutamente podría ser que la argumento que levi Wallace se hacía que se hacía un saludo de la vida para el 2018 Bills team hay un lot de safeties en este draft y I had to say Bills passed on safety twice porque they had Mike Hyde and Jordan Poirier already in 2018 porque they had signed them both the previous year in free agency so I totally understand the Denzel Ward point Denzel Ward is the one guy that I feel guilty about how late I have him going in this exercise.

24:56Robert Mays: You can make an argument for every pick that I made in front of Denzel Ward, but I already feel bad that I had him going as late as I did. I had them picking Roquan Smith, and it's for this reason. They picked Tremaine Edmonds later in the first round in this draft, so they clearly wanted an off-ball linebacker to come out of this draft, and I just think that Roquan Smith has been so good when he's been in the right situations in the league, and it's very easy for me to imagine Roquan Smith being even an upgrade from what Tremaine Edmonds had been for the Bills before he walked in free agency so the fact that they were sniffing around a position like that anyway and Roquan Smith has been as good as he has over the course of his career, that's why I went that way instead of going with somebody like Denzel Ward just because I know they already wanted a guy at that spot.

25:42Yeah, that makes a ton of sense because like you said, Buffalo had a pick later in mid-first round That's a position that they targeted there. And, you know, Roquan, he was a top 10 linebacker. He played like it for the majority of his career. And, you know, I think it's, again, we're talking about premium positions and where do you draft these guys? But with the benefit of hindsight and understanding the impact that they will make, it takes some of the guesswork out of it. And so you know the type of player you're getting. y eso que cambia la conversación un poco cuando se ha hecho un ejercicio como este

26:21Robert Mays: me lo podría haber thrown Saquon en el equipo de la Bills como también part de la razón que no es que es que hubiera sido tan difícil para poner Roquan Smith en la Bears y I found that boring y eso fue también part de la razón por la razón por poner Roquan Smith en la Bills y allowed la Bears a ir a ir a otra dirección en 8 so they did take Roquan Smith en 2018 ¿qué te haces en la Bears en la redraft para lo que hicieron con el 8 de la final pick. Este es donde se ha interesado para mí. Yo fui con Jordan Maialata. Y, look, este es un difícil. Porque el Bears no tenía un imediato necesito de tackle en 2018.

27:02Charles Leno era un buen option a ese momento. Y creo que continuó a jugar con el Bears en el 3 de la final. Así que no era como el año pasado. there was going to be an opening right tackle a little bit of a different question or a different situation Bobby Massey and you know they could have needed a right tackle but when you look at Jordan Maialata he's fascinating in an exercise like this because you have to understand you have to almost redshirt him for two years this is a guy who didn't play football coming over from rugby has no college football experience you know he has to he barely played he really didn't play his first two years so he read shirts but if you know that maybe not know but if you feel good about his chances of starting in year three a top 15 offensive tackle by year four and then by year six we're talking about him as maybe a top five offensive tackle and to get so even though it's a long process and not every gm is going to be up for that but thinking about what he's going to be Even though it's a little bit of a slow burn I think that's tough to pass on But this is a fascinating conversation With Maialata Because again You have to wait it out There's a little bit of some Trepidation in there Because yes, he went to Philly Where Stoutland U And he got certain development If he goes anywhere else Who knows how that plays out Development is not a guarantee pero yo creo que cuando tú tienes que tener un jugador que podría ser un top 5 offensive tackle en la league por año 6 que es algo worth investing en incluso si es como el top 10

28:46Robert Mays: no sé lo que hacer con él porque tú probablemente podrías ponerlo a 3 para el Jets si tú eres considerado un nivel de la carrera que es un top 5 left tackle por año 5 o 6 yo had him ir a 13 para Washington y fue por este motivo Washington had Trent Williams at the time. So if there's one spot where you know he wouldn't have been an immediate starter, he would have gotten to sit, he would have had some time, Washington is probably the easiest place to project that. And to me, it felt like splitting the difference, where we're not putting him in the top five, but we're also not putting him lower than a guy of his caliber should be going.

29:22Robert Mays: So I think that it just felt like the natural point to me where it's like, okay, now we're kind of accounting for the development curve, we're accounting for the players who are already there, y esto se hace como un natural landing spot for él, pero de cada single player en este ejercicio, creo que fue el más difícil de encontrar un mejor landing spot for just porque de todo el contexto que tienes que trabajar en el trabajo. No hay en la liga que se van a draft a player knowing que no se van a ni get mucho de ellos por dos años que es un poco de agua que es un poco de agua, que es un salto de la fan base pero si en el ejercicio de la beneficio de donde estamos en cuenta defrontadas que hay algún nuevo pick.

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30:47Robert Mays: over los años Sports 2018 fue un terrible It actually was a solid group You alluded to Charles Leno, Bobby Massey They had Kyle Long still at that point Cody Whitehair was a rookie Playing center Cody Whitehair was the center And then they had James Daniels as a rookie At one of those guard spots So to me, dropping Saquon into that situation I think that's probably better than a lot of The teams he played with in New York And I think that we could have seen At least a decent version of Saquon Barkley Behind that offensive line I mean, think about it. Jordan Howard was productive behind that offensive line.

31:27Robert Mays: So I think a back like Saquon Barkley, that one's easy for me to picture. And again, it was just more fun to put Saquon Barkley on the Bears and Roquan Smith on the Bills rather than just throwing Roquan Smith back on the Bears. Yeah, that is 100 percent true. Yeah, Jordan Howard, he didn't last in the NFL very much longer after that. Y así, pensando en lo que podría haber sido, cómo eso podría haber ayudado a Trubisky y el equipo de la situación. Es también un lo que si. Y tener un diseño de la carrera de la carrera, cómo eso afecta el resto de la oferta. Sí, eso ha sido interesante. Jordan Howard, lo que ha visto en la numbers, es un shock incluso en retrospect.

32:09Robert Mays: ¿No Jordan Howard se ha ido a 1 ,300 yards como un rookie? Sí, sí, sí, sí. He fue outstanding. ¿Has un indiano? ¿Has un UAB transfer? ¿Has un gran riqueza? ¿Has un tercer round pick? No, no. ¿Has un tercero de nada? ¿Has un fifth round pick? Oh, wow. ¿Has un tercer round, que incluso en la momenta, ¿qué fue como un poco más que fue un poco más tarde? Pero, como un rookie, ¿eh? ¿Has un 252 caries por 1 ,300 yards? Y en su segundo año, ¿has un 275 caries por 1 ,100 yards? ¿Sobiendo? ¿Has un segundo dos seasons, ¿has un 2 ,400 rushing yards? So again, drop Saquon Barkley into that situation instead of Jordan Howard.

32:46Robert Mays: And I think it's pretty easy to get excited about what that would have looked like. Oh, there's no doubt about it. But that's the fact that you can get Jordan Howard that late and give you that type of production is kind of what we're talking about with the running back position. And, you know, you can find some of these guys later on. He's a great example. Let's get to the Niners at number nine. They took Mike McGlinchey in the actual draft in 2018 at right tackle. ¿Qué ha sido el 9 de la redacción en la redacción? Así que voy a Brian O 'Neal. He fue a 2nd round pick to the Vikings. Turned out to be a muy buen player.

33:21Y esto es, como mencioné, instead de Mike McGlinchey, quien yo todavía tengo en la primera round. Pero, looking back, yo no puedo ponerlo en la top 10. Where Brian O 'Neal, he fue un poco de un proyecto coming out. Former tight end, athletic, moves well. pero es un proyecto ido a involve el tema ìjeüro que era buena going nine of the 49ers.

33:52Robert Mays: I just think he's been a little bit better in pass protection over the course of his career than McGlinchey has been. And so I think that's why I give him the nod. And I also had Brian O 'Neal going here. It was very easy considering they needed a right tackle and he's probably the best right tackle to come out of this group. You can make an argument for Orlando Brown Jr. as well, but stylistically, just think about what the Niners offense was back then. Still more athleticism, more outside zone. And so it just would be hard for me to drop a player like Orlando Brown Jr. who really has succeeded in gap schemes por el mundo de su carrera en un situación como el Niner.

34:22Robert Mays: Así que el Brian O 'Neal fue muy fácil para mí. Unos otros sonos que me han traído para mí. Imagina DJ Moore en la Debo Samuel role en la Niner offense. Sí, sí. Porque, ok, el 2018 49ers offense, ¿sí su líder? Ahora, looking a este grupo, es mucho más fácil. Maybe DJ Moore es el pick. So George Kittle had 88 catches that year for the Niners on 136 targets. This is crazy. So George Kittle had 136 targets that year. The second leading target getter on the 2018 Niners was Kendrick Bourne, who had 66. So George Kittle had twice the targets that any other receiver on the 2018 Niners got. Well, and Nick Mullins led that team in passing.

35:13So, you know, I got that. We have CJ Beathard grapple and play three games that year. Oh, man.

35:20Robert Mays: Well, that's a sneaky big year for the Niners because you remember this like they had grapple played so well down the back half of the season in 2018. He gets that monster contract and their Niners have pretty decent expectations going into the next year. He gets hurt. They go four and 12 and it ends up becoming the best thing for them because they draft Nick Bosa with the second overall pick the next year. Right. Exacto. Y así, porque Shanahan, ¿qué fue? ¿Va fue 2018? ¿Va fue el primer año? Según año. Según año. 2017 fue su primer año. Que fue el año que había Heuer y Beathard y pieced it todo bien.

35:57Robert Mays: Y luego de traer a Garoppolo por la parte de la temporada. Sí, creo que es correcto. D.J. Moore, ¿qué es lo que ha hecho? Sí, yo casi fui Roquan Smith ahí, ¿qué fue? Porque yo había Fred Warner obviamente, ¿qué fue? ¿qué fue? ¿qué fue? ¿qué fue? ¿qué fue? ¿qué fue? So, to get Roquan Smith there at nine would make sense. But yeah, one of these pass catchers, man, that would certainly change a lot compared to what they had. I'm still fine going with Brian O 'Neal, but I think the DJ Moore thing, as I look at the wide receiver depth chart, becomes a little bit tempting. The other guy I'd throw out, because I haven't had him go yet, is Denzel Ward.

36:32Robert Mays: Because Akella Weatherspoon is the other outside corner on this team after they signed Richard Sherman. And so, I think you can make the argument for Denzel Ward. Frank Ragnow is a name I'd throw out there Just because of how good Frank Ragnow was But this team had just signed Weston Richburg At center and free agency that year So they had already had their guy That they were really committed to So I feel good about Brian O 'Neal But maybe it's just because of what those Niners teams turned into That it's tempting to think about a few other guys That you could throw into the mix there Weston Richburg, a name I haven't heard in a long time He was one of the prizes It's the best part of stuff like this Yeah, well, he was one of the prizes that free agency offseason.

37:11That's crazy. Well, I mean, speaking of Frank Ragnow, that's who I have going next at 10. Sam, you think of that Cardinals offense. Offensive line was, you know, because 2018 was, was that Sam Bradford? Is there a quarterback for the Cardinals going in that year? So they got, I believe so.

37:32Robert Mays: Well, they drafted Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen started 13 games that year. So they had Sam Bradford originally, but yes. So they had Josh Rosen and he played that season. And so if you look at the offensive line, there are some tackles available, but this is a team that for as bad as they were, actually had some answers at tackle. DJ Humphries was 25 years old to left tackle on this team. They had Andre Smith and Mason Cole. It started 16 games for them at center after being drafted in the middle rounds. So it was very easy to just throw Frank Ragnow in there as an upgrade over what Mason Cole ultimately gave them because I did the same thing and right now he started a guard his entire rookie year for the Lions so I mean you had some flexibility in the middle there where center guard you're just getting a rock solid player for the next even though you know it the end came a little bit sooner than you want for a guy that you're drafting in 2018 just coming off his retirement this offseason he was so good over his career that you can absolutely make the argument that he belongs in the top him yeah you could make you could try to make a case here for somebody like dj more he has not gone for either one of us but they still had larry fitzgerald they actually drafted christian kirk that year but it's just too tempting to have like rock solid i think is the exact way to frame it with rag now where you drop in the middle of that offensive line and just kind of completely remakes that group over the next few years where i think the cardinals during this stretch kind of struggle to figure out who they wanted their offensive line to be and think about they eventually traded for Rodney Hudson because they had to because they couldn't find an answer at this spot.

39:06Robert Mays: So I think giving them rag now and a little bit of certainty is a worthwhile move here. Alright, we're going to take our first quick break and then get back with the Miami Dolphins at 11. Football season has arrived and with the U.S. Bank Smartly Visa Signature Card, you earn an unlimited 2 % cash back on every purchase, including at the stadium or at home watching on a brand new TV. Score big with unlimited 2 % cash back on ¡Suscríbete al canal!

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41:36Robert Mays: Who'd you have going to Miami at 11? They took Minky Fitzpatrick, obviously, in the actual draft, which we could do an hour on all of that and the fact that he's now back in Miami. But what did you have them doing with the benefit of a little bit of hindsight here? I went Orlando Brown Jr. You think about that offensive line, lo que ha sido en la última semana, en el año pasado, en el año 2018 fue Juwan James en la año en Miami. Así que, se drafte Orlando Brown este año, se puede jugar a mi guard en el año 2018. Se está listo en la línea de tackle en 2019. No hay que draft Austin Jackson dos años después en la primera round.

42:15Así que, en la línea de la línea de que, que se puede jugar en diferentes spots en la línea de la línea en la línea de la línea meólova, creo que me hizo un sentido.

42:23Robert Mays: You forget how rough those offensive lines were for Miami, especially after the Tunsil trade. Miami's starting offensive line, the players who started the most games at these positions on the offensive line in 2019, Julian Davenport at left tackle, Michael Dieter at left guard, Daniel Kilgore at center, Shaq Calhoun at right guard, and Jesse Davis at right tackle. I think Orlando Brown might have worked his way into the starting lineup for the Miami Dolphins that year. Yeah, it would not have taken very long for him to move up that depth chart at multiple different positions. So, yeah, I think that that makes a lot of sense.

43:02It's interesting how many offensive linemen we've been talking about already. It just kind of speaks to the league as a whole, where if you don't have offensive line, you need to go invest in that position early. And I know in mine alone, I have four in a row right here, eight, nine, ten, eleven, all offensive linemen. So, yeah, it's a position where even if, like, there might be a B-plus at another position, but if you can get a B-minus on the offensive line, you're going to value that a little bit more just because of the scarcity of finding those guys.

43:37Robert Mays: I'm so glad you said that because it's exactly how my brain was working as I was going back through this where any time there was, like, a tiebreaker necessary, I was like, I'd rather just take the offensive lineman and have it. I'd rather just know that I'm solid there. I mean, that is how Colton Miller goes third overall to the Jets, where it's like, I know this isn't fun or exciting, but just think about what it's like living in the tackle wilderness and having an answer that even as unexciting as Colton Miller is, it just makes your life so much easier and just lessens your anxiety to such a degree that that's why I think it's easy to throw offensive linemen on all of these different teams.

44:12Robert Mays: That being said, I know I read off the starters on the offensive line for the 2019 Jets and why it was justifiable to take a tackle there. I would like to read off to you the production for the 2018 Miami Dolphins wide receivers. Oh, gosh. Ready? Here we go. The leading target getter on the 2018 Dolphins was Danny Amendola. He had 79 targets for 575 yards. Next up, Kenny Stills 37 catches, 553 yards Next up, Albert Wilson 26 catches for 391 yards This was post Jarvis Landry trade I believe He was already on the Browns at this point So this was a tough situation For the pass catching group in Miami Devontae Parker was there He had 24 catches It was easy for me to throw DJ Moore onto this team As bad as the offensive line situation was I think the receiver situation warranted a little bit of help here.

45:13And this is still Tannehill, right?

45:16Robert Mays: This is still Tannehill, yes. Yeah, oh God, he had no chance. What, Adam Gase? So yeah, that was a disaster waiting to happen. No wonder why they were picking so high in the draft. And then the next year, obviously, they trade Tannehill, they go with Ryan Fitzpatrick, and that's when the tank begins with Brian Flores in 2019. But yeah, putting DJ Moore on this team with that group, that was easy for me to do. Pero creo que el defensive line es también muy justificado dado por el principio. There por tu turno aquí ya. T adaptándolo fue procenturo. ¡Tanko fallible, un tema! ¡Oh! Entonces el hecho de que la vez de que estaba tanginando ¡Cantadora , ha competido!

45:53Robert Mays: ¿ crear beaucoup de formas de 450ders con esa race? Creo que una Tools de 15. waited de 으 de O. Con la industria el victreo. ¡Who le dijo BatHubbo con definido reedrevado sting? Hemos estado allí con la juntaán de Vietnam y creo que hay ciertas diferentes direcciones que podría haber ido hay still good players available aquí pero yo diría que ha funcionado bien con Vito Veya con lo que ha hecho por ese equipo sobre el año y así ¿por qué no? A lot de las cosas que hemos dicho sobre Quentin Nelson still going a 6 de la Colts kind de copy y paste right aquí 12 to the Buccaneers This es un hard one porque tú puedes ir a bunch de diferentes direcciones Denzel Ward es still available para mí aquí Minka Fitzpatrick es still available I think you could do that.

46:37Robert Mays: I expected them to take Derwin James in this draft because of the holes that they had at safety. Part of the reason that I also put Vitavia back on the Bucs, they won a Super Bowl like two years later. And part of me is just like, if it ain't broke, like all the stuff that they did, let's just keep doing it because it worked out just fine for them. Even if you could probably make an argument there are more valuable players available at positions of need for them here. Yep, exactly. Washington at 13. They took Deron Payne in the actual draft in 2018. I already mentioned that I had Jordan Maillotta going here.

47:11Robert Mays: What did you have Washington doing at 13? This is where I had Roquan Smith going. 13, maybe a little bit later than he should go. But again, we're still talking about a linebacker. Not everyone's going to take a linebacker that early. But knowing what type of pro he has been. And you look at Washington. They kind of ignored the linebacker position for a while there. 2018, su starters were Mason Foster and Zach Brown. And that really led to the Jameen Davis pick in the first round a couple years later, which obviously did not work out. So to get Roquan Smith here for the middle of that defense, I think would help them quite a bit on that side of the ball.

47:50Robert Mays: And you look at the following year, they drafted Cole Holcomb and he started 15 games from them in 2019. And then Jonathan Bostic later in the draft. And then they got Jonathan Bostic from the Bears y él empezó a 16 años con ellos en 2019. Es el primer de dos veces que Jonathan Bostick es comenzó a llegar a este podcast, por ejemplo. Así que Roquan Smith iría a la vez más de sentido. También, yo tenía mi vida de ahí. Este es el primer punto en este draft donde creo que se puede hacer Sam Darnold. Sí. Sam Darnold es el tema de hablar en este caso. Porque tú eres 100 % correcto. A año atrás, cómo hablamos de él.

48:27Dos años atrás, cómo hablamos de él. Ahora, cómo hablamos de él. A year from now, how are we going to talk about it? It's really a moving target. And but for some of these teams, we both have them going in this first round. So we've kind of already said that. But it just I think you're right. This is where you start to have those conversations about. All right, we in this situation, how is that career trajectory different for the better? Hopefully.

48:55Robert Mays: Yeah, that's interesting. Sam Darnold, I think you could make an argument at 13 for Washington. I think you could make an argument at 14 for the Saints. Knowing that Drew Brees was coming to the end, they probably should have drafted a succession plan sooner than they did. So these are two spots where I think you could easily make a Sam Darnold argument. After this, I think the only other team that really comes up in the middle of the draft is probably the Bills. Because in this exercise, they wouldn't have taken Josh Allen. y así que probablemente throw Sam Darnold onto their team at 16 pero think about all the other teams after that the Raiders at 15 they have Derek Carr they just made Derek Carr one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league Phillip Rivers was still playing really well for the Chargers and still a couple years before he would have done Aaron Rodgers for the Packers Dak Prescott for the Cowboys Matthew Stafford for the Lions you could probably give the Bengals a quarterback but again I don't want to mess with the Joe Burrow juju here And so I didn't want to do that.

49:55Robert Mays: Tennessee had drafted Mariota. And so they already have a quarterback and then they eventually went to get Tannehill a little bit later on. So maybe you can make an argument for that. But I think it was easier. 15, so yeah. 15. Yeah, so probably enough time. It's easier to justify a fourth round pick for Ryan Tannehill than it is using another first round pick on a quarterback. The Patriots maybe with Brady, but I still feel like he had a couple years left. y a lot de los otros otros teams, pero creo que Saints y Washington son dos de los más intriga en el medio de este draft con Sean Payton es interesante cómo que ha sido que ha sido porque no hubo sido thrown into the mix right away could have brought him along at his own pace We know the year before that Peyton wanted to trade up for Patrick Mahomes.

50:56So to get Darnold here at 14, that that would be a really interesting what if how what that version of the Saints would have looked like. That's fascinating.

51:08Robert Mays: That one's tempting. That is not what I did. Who did you ultimately give to the Saints at 14? So I went Minka Fitzpatrick for that secondary. Uns joven Protection En lo 하 did Billy leatherpresivos un brillante Central ¿ jeszcze en warmer 1ua kome warmer 1 ua

51:47wanted to get Mahomes a year before we know Breeze is towards the end we just talked about that they're going up to get Lamar Jackson and then Marcus Davenport comes across the screen that was one of the core memories that I'll have of this draft was that big swing on a draft that didn't have a lot of pass rushers and they kind of swung on a toolsy one that one was kind of crazy but yeah so I went with Mika Fitzpatrick who has been Y, you know, I think it's interesting some of the discourse with Fitzpatrick the last 24 hours after leaving the Steelers and whether or not he's lived up to the contract, whether or not he was a great fit for what they were doing.

52:31He's still a really good player. And so I think you put him in that back end of that defense and the Saints have a little bit. They probably get a little bit more out of that that final run with Peyton and Breeze.

52:43Robert Mays: Yeah, and I think that what Dennis Allen was able to do With that defense over multiple years It's a good situation And it's just so tempting to imagine him next to Marcus Williams Like those two guys next to each other With Marshawn Lattimore in that same secondary With Demario Davis, Cam Jordan still there That was one of the easiest ones for me Just stylistically everything about Minka Fitzpatrick On those Saints teams was very fun to imagine Alright, let's get to the Raiders at 15 They took Colton Miller in the actual draft I had Colton Miller coming off the board earlier. What did you have the Raiders doing in this redraft?

53:17I had him go in Colton Miller, sticking with what worked. And I was one of the big doubters on this pick. Colton Miller was a really inconsistent player at UCLA. It was a bet on traits and what he was going to grow into. And I just felt like a big swing to take there in the top 15. But, you know, he has been more than a rock solid player. He is kind of the ceiling that we thought he could have. He has achieved that. And I think is you could probably say he probably has another year or two of still getting better to go. So he's been a really good player and could have easily gone before the 15th pick.

53:56Robert Mays: Yeah, again, I had him going earlier than this, but I think that this is probably the right spot based on everything else that you've done. And this is I had Denzel. You had Denzel Ward going early. I had Colton Miller going early. I had Denzel Ward here because he's still on the board for me. And just the Raiders think about what a nightmare those cornerback spots have been or were for such a long time. You know, Gary and Conley, Darryl Worley. I mean, just they really have struggled to find that Damon Arnett. And so this to me was just a way to right some of those wrongs with Denzel Ward still sitting on the board here is that you stop the revolving door.

54:32Robert Mays: You have an answer. He probably shouldn't be available here. y estoy seguro que me hicieron no haberlo antes de ir a la hora en este ejercicio pero este fue un easy para mí con Denzel Ward still available we talk about best available best available no doubt about it at this point let's get to the bills at 16 in the actual draft they took Tremaine Edmonds the linebacker who did you have them going with here at 16 so we talked a little bit before how the bills that offense regardless of who was that quarterback they had some big questions at pass catcher and so this is where I had the first receiver coming off the board DJ Moore Zay Jones led that offense in catches in 2018 do you know who was second?

55:20Robert Foster right? LeSean McCoy

55:25Robert Mays: Robert Foster was a starting receiver on that team looking at that offense It was rough. The pass catchers, the skill players So yeah, you drop DJ Moore into there. We still don't know who's You know, the quarterback of the future So I think this is Definitely a Sam Darnold possibility But the chance to get the top receiver In the draft, I think that that would have made Sense for that Bills team My thinking was along similar lines I had them taking Mark Andrews Just give me any sort of pass catcher And for me, DJ Moore is off the board And so anybody for I mean, Josh Allen wouldn't be there. Whoever the quarterback was Tyra Taylor, anybody just give me somebody to throw the ball to.

56:06Robert Mays: I think Mark Andrews and again, tight ends. It's checkered development history. It's hard to figure out which guys are going to be successful, but we know Mark Andrews has turned into a very, very good pass catching tight end. So I think it's pretty justifiable in this spot. A couple other guys I was thinking about, Deron Payne, Kyle Williams was in the final year of his deal here. So they had just signed Star Latula in free agency, but there's a reason they take Ed Oliver shortly after this because they eventually did have a needed defensive tackle. And then this is the first time with LaShawn McCoy in the final year of his deal in Buffalo, I think you could mention Nick Chubb's name here.

56:43Robert Mays: Like if they had taken Nick Chubb in this spot, I would have no issues with that whatsoever. 100 % This is around the range where I was thinking about Nick Chubb as well I knew going into this exercise I was going to have two running backs We had a lot of running backs drafted that year In the top four rounds There's only two that I knew were going to be in there without a doubt Barkley and then Chubb Somewhere else I think that would have made sense There at 16 for Nick Chubb Let's go with the Chargers At 17, the actual draft they took Jerwin James, who did you have the Chargers going with? So I'm with Jesse Bates Kind of maybe a more consistent version I mean I know they're different With how they play But obviously we know they wanted to get better At safety and Jesse Bates has just been a more Consistent player so far In the NFL in terms of healthier Should put it that way as well I have no issue with that at all I went with Orlando Brown Jr.

57:39Robert Mays: because he was available For me here and I just Remember what that right tackle spot was For the Chargers for a very long tiempo. Trey Pipkins gave them some decent play at times over the last few years, but before it was Trey Pipkins. Do you remember who the starting right tackle was for the Chargers in 2018? Gosh, remind me. It was Sam Tevey. Sam Tevey had two years as the Chargers right tackle, so this one was easy for me. As somebody who was watching those Chargers teams with some real intent, being able to go back in time and fix the right tackle situation, this was a no-brainer for me yeah that makes that makes a ton of sense packers at 18 they took jair alexander in the actual draft who'd you have them taking here so i had them going with josh sweat um who interesting he the first player who did not make my first round okay yeah um so he obviously cashed in at the right time uh this past this past year had best year of his career cashed in it's funny i I know a lot of Packers fans were clamoring to spend some of that Banks money on Josh Sweat instead.

58:51But you look back at that 2018 Packers defense. I believe that was Mike Pettin. Clay Matthews, Nick Perry. Those are your starting pass rushers. They were both gone after 2018. So get Josh Sweat in that mix where he's part of the rotation. Ready to be a starter by 2019. I think he fits a lot of Honestly, it came down between him and Deron Payne We know what the Packers look for In the first round of the draft Jair Alexander, who they actually Drafted, was a little bit of a Maybe different than what they usually Go for, but I think Sweat is kind of in their lane For a type of guy that would have Maybe not as, you know, the testing Maybe, I don't know, but based on what he's done The last seven years, I think that It would have made sense for the Packers

59:41Robert Mays: He was a good tester. He's long. I mean, I can understand them. They're buying into the physical traits. It's also funny because that next offseason is the offseason where they spent a shitload of money on edge rushers. They spent for Zedarius Smith that offseason. They spent for Preston Smith. And so this maybe prevents them from having to do that. So I get that one. For me, I put Derwin James here to the Packers at 18 just because the spine of those defenses was a nightmare for like years. So even if it's been up and down for Derwin James, Just giving them some answer at safety Even like as a dime linebacker Some of the things he could have done for this team And some of the issues they had at those spots Derwin's a tough one too Just because the highs have obviously been so high But you know some injury concerns And it's been a little bit up and down But for where that Packers team was Trying to give them like some new version Of what Charles Woodson has been for them That was tempting for me here Yeah and I've got Derwin James Going here a few picks after this So kind of around the same range I was looking.

1:00:41Robert Mays: Dallas Cowboys at 19, went with Leighton Van Der Esch in the actual draft. Who did you have them going with here? Yeah, I was tempted to go receiver. Calvin Ridley, maybe. CeeDee Lamb's not there yet. Amari Cooper's gone, I believe, at this point. So they really could have gone for a receiver for Dak Prescott. Pero, como usted, con Joe Burrow, no me gusta que CeeDee Lamb Vibes Así que yo fui con Tremaine Edmonds We know They actually went Leighton Van Der Esch Who es un buen player Justo, he couldn't stay healthy Injuries ended his career before We had a chance to really see him shine So, thought about receiver Here, ended up going with the linebacker That we know They coveted for that defense I went with De 'Ron Payne Again, just addressing the spine of the defense.

1:01:36Robert Mays: Antoine Woods played a ton of snaps for this team that year, along with Malik Collins. Those were their two starting tackles. I was tempted to throw Jesse Bates in here as well, but they already had Xavier Woods. Jeff Heath was the other safety on that team, so I think you probably could have gone with Jesse Bates. But just one interior pass rusher for this team based on the makeup of that group. That's why I ultimately went with Payne instead of the other guys. I almost went Derwin James Because I know the Cowboys fans really wanted Derwin James in that draft And he didn't make it to him, he went two picks before But it was still available in this scenario So that was a hard consideration as well Number 20 The Detroit Lions, they did take Frank Ragnow In the first round of that draft, worked out okay Who did you have them going with in the redraft?

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1:07:21Robert Mays: El Cincinnati Bengals At 21 They actually took Billy Price This was during that just I don't even know what that Correct adjective is here The wilderness time for the Cincinnati Bengals Draft history Who did you have them going with in the redraft? Billy Price was supposed to be He might not have a high ceiling But he's got a high floor He's a can't miss type of guy Obviously that didn't work out I went with Derwin James He got them BJ Hill, that was worth it They eventually got to trade him for BJ Hill I went with Derwin James Who we know they're going to lose out on Jesse Bates in the second round Jesse Bates already off the board in my Scenario James, I mean really besides 2019 and 2020 When he was hurt I mean he's been Pretty good and so maybe the highs Aren't always there but Derwin James still belongs in this first round I think I absolutely agree.

1:08:17Robert Mays: Obviously, I had him going a few picks before this. I had Mike McGlinchey going here, and again, it's for this reason. Similar to the right tackle situation for the Chargers in those years, with me wanting to rectify it, I remember the Bobby Hart days for the Cincinnati Bengals. This was post-Cedric Abui, Jake Fisher times for the Bengals, and so they were trying to piece together their offensive line situation. They traded for Cordy Glenn before this season, which is what allowed the Bills to move up in this draft. But they still had a big glaring hole at right tackle. So Mike McGlinchey has been more than serviceable in that spot.

1:08:56Robert Mays: And so having a capable right tackle for those Bengals teams, very tempting for me to do here because I remember the experience of watching those teams. Poor Bobby Hart, just going out there trying his best. And he just, it was rough. It was so bad. But yeah, that really led to the emphasis on offensive line for the Bengals. There's these years right here. So that makes total sense. Could McGlinchey there. 22, the Tennessee Titans. They draft Rashawn Evans in the actual draft. Who did you have them going with here? Rashawn Evans, another one. Jeez. I went with Calvin Ridley. You know, just get to Tennessee a little bit earlier.

1:09:34Corey Davis. He was their wide receiver one on that team. And then after that, the receiver depth chart just dropped off in a major way. And so Mariota is still the starter then. You know, obviously that has not that that did not work out. But he also didn't really have anybody to throw to. And so Calvin Ridley kind of tried to help change that.

1:09:57Robert Mays: I don't think this is wrong. But again, the A.J. Brown part of it, I was like, I don't really know if I want to mess with that. I know AJ Brown is coming down the road I went with Jermaine Edmonds And again it was one of those where it's an easy one for one swap They drafted an all ball linebacker They clearly wanted one There's some corners like Jair is still available for me here But they were pretty heavily invested at corner At that point They had Malcolm Butler, Logan Ryan And Adoree Jackson On that team And then even at safety Jesse Bates has not been taken from me yet They had some safeties on that team Kevin Byard was there Y así, es fácil porque yo sabía que quería Rashawn Evans para mí para que se desvierta Tremaine Edmonds en este spot.

1:10:37Robert Mays: 23, el Nueva Ingolando Patriots. Están en la primera round. ¿Quién tiene que ir con el reedrata? Yo tengo que ir con Cortland Sutton. Brady's last dos años, 18, 19 en Nueva Ingolando, los receiver situations fueron so bad. Sí, Julián Edelman fue ahí. Pero además Edelman, Looking at the 2018 Patriots, Do you know who actually led that team in targets? Is James White. He had 123. I couldn't remember which running back it was Because I literally looked up the same thing this morning. 123 targets that year. And obviously Gronk is still on those teams, But to add another weapon on the outside, Like a Cortland Sutton, Maybe you're getting, And those Patriots teams are still 11 win teams, Pero aún, para añadir otro Unos de la otra, Maybe tú eres un poco más de esos De los que realmente hicieron.

1:11:33Robert Mays: Así que estamos en un Muy similar page aquí. I had them doing this at 31 Where they drafted Sonny Michelle. I had them drafting Cortland Sutton For pretty much the same set of reasons. Remember, they went to get Josh Gordon So they wanted a big body receiver On those teams. And so, giving them Cortland Sutton Based on the other decisions they made That was pretty easy for me. But I did that a little bit later on. Another player who was hard to place here Just because he's clearly been valued Really highly by the league When he's healthy, he's a really good player It's just been a question of health I had them going with Bradley Chubb here If you look at those teams Those Patriots teams in 2018 or so Trey Flowers in the final year of his deal Other than that, not a lot of high-end Pass rushing talent on those teams And so them taking the chance on Chubb This late, considering What he's been at his best I think that one is that one's justifiable to me.

1:12:23Well, and Chubb's been a guy that he has a really good season and then it's an injury. Really good season. And it's been on off on off. And so missing this past year, he's due for a big year in 2025. So we'll see if he can if he can do it. So, yeah, that makes I mean, top five pick in this draft when he's healthy. He absolutely belongs in this first round. So I certainly understand that.

1:12:45Robert Mays: The rave or excuse me, the Panthers at 24. They actually took DJ more. I think we both had the same guy going here. What did you do for the Panthers at 24? Yeah, this is where Jair Alexander comes off the board. I think, yeah, that makes sense. Even though his end in Green Bay wasn't exactly what you would expect for a first round pick, a guy that you extended, he's still a good cornerback and maybe took a little bit of a discount to go to Baltimore. So we'll see how that plays out for the Ravens this year. pero para Carolina se necesitó el corno en 2018 para que Jair Alexander aquí en 24 creo que funciona se trata de Jair en ese mismo draft y ya ya ya ya James Dradbury así que ya que uno hace fácil que se quiera que Jair se quiera que se quiera que un poco muy rápido la Ravens en 25 en el actual draft se took Hayden Hurst 7 fix antes de que took Omar Jackson que es siempre muy muy que que que ¿Qué haces con ellos en la redraft en Baltimore?

1:13:50Hayden Hurst will always be the trivia answer. Sí, así que yo fui con Sam Darnold aquí. Y esto es fascinante a pensar en la situación con una mejor situación. He se sat en 2018, al menos a start, behind Joe Flacco. 2018 fue Flacco's last year en Baltimore. So, la oportunidad... Sam Darnold era un redshirt sophomore cuando llegué a un jugador. He was still a muy young player. So to get that ability to come along at your own pace, it just and Marty Morningweg was the offensive coordinator back then. Like, I don't know how that would have worked out, but I understand at least taking that swing at that point.

1:14:31So if things would have played out the way they should have, Lamar Jackson would have went early. Sam Darnold went a little bit later. That trajectory for Darnold in a situation like Baltimore's is fascinating to think about.

1:14:45Robert Mays: Yeah, I had him going at 32. So we're on the exact same page here. And again, trying to figure out what to do with Sam Darnold in this exercise. The fact that the Ravens did take a quarterback and had two picks at the end of this draft, it was easy. It's like, okay, this is where he probably should go in an exercise like this. You change the situation. He goes behind the quarterbacks who've been more successful and consistent than he's been. So I totally understand this. And I did it seven picks later. So we did the same thing with Cortland Sutton and Sam Darnold, where we both had them going to those respective teams just with their second picks in the first round.

1:15:20Robert Mays: Yeah. 26. I actually had Braden Smith going here to the Ravens. Again, they had drafted Orlando Brown in the third round, so they needed a right tackle. And Braden Smith has been really solid for the Colts for most of his career. So that one was another one where it was like, you know what? I knew they wanted a guy at that spot. Give them another starting caliber player here y vamos a la quarterback de 32 el mismo que se hizo en la real draft en mi draft que no hay o no hay en mi draft que tú tenías en el brazo y tú tenías en la tackles que la grupo fue un poco más bajo y así es por qué en la brayden Smith en Atlanta en 26 en la actual draft en la actual draft en la red ¿qué te hagan en la redraft?

1:16:03I'm going Bradley Chubb un poco de picks después de donde Chubb va y esto es donde hay que irme y también, productivo cuando ha sido muy saludable. We've talked about el Falcons' pass rush situación ad nauseum en las 10 años y cómo han struggled a find que upgrade. Vic Beasley fue still en la 2018 pero he lost a starting job en el año. Tack McKinley, se drafted en el primer el año que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no que no

1:16:37Robert Mays: Yeah, I mean, they're still trying to find it. They spent this entire offseason still trying to find it. Bradley Chubb is off the board for me here. I went with Jesse Bates. This is one where he probably could go five times before I had him going. I think there was always a reason why I picked somebody else. Even like with the Bengals at 21, I wasn't going to put him on this Bengals team because they didn't want him. He was there for the rookie contract. Then he left. So I didn't want to do that again. And so the fact that he's currently on the Falcons and that Falcons team had Ricardo Allen and Demonte Casey is at safeties.

1:17:07Robert Mays: That was easy for me. Y a fun one because, again, we have seen him in that spot already. With Jesse Bates still on the board, he was clearly the best player available, and I do think he makes sense there. The Seahawks at 27. Who you got? This is where Mark Andrews coming off the board. This is good. I like that. It's a good fit with Russell Wilson at the time. Look at the tight end depth chart. Nick Vanette, Will Disley, Dixon. A un hombre como Mark Andrews Could have really elevated that position And what he would have meant for that offense So I think that's a great fit there Yeah, I like that one a lot I had Carlton Davis going here They actually took Rashad Penny In the 2018 draft But Trey Flowers started most of that season For the Seahawks Richard Sherman had just moved on They had Shaq Griffin But this was in that time Where they were really searching for some answers at corner And Carlton Davis has been a very good player Y el hecho de que Carlton Davis es Están siendo pagados$20 millones a year Aunque sea en el número 3 Especialmente a lo que es que es Que él es en este momento en su carrera Así que fue uno de los chicos Que es un gran no-brainer Para mí Bueno, es exactamente lo que yo Había que el siguiente pick A 28 Para el Steelers Artie Burns fue a bust Early on para el Steelers They needed some help A corner Joe Hayden fue a fine Stopgap option Pero add in a Carlton Davis que la gente lo hacía, lo que había dicho, es que la gente va a hacer para la Steelers a 28.

1:18:39Robert Mays: I had Shaq Leonard going here. He was another one of those guys. I just wasn't sure what to do with him because obviously the highs were incredibly high. He was one of the best players in the league at his position for multiple years. So what do you do with that, even though he's out of the league at this point when a lot of these other guys are still productive? I just look at the depth chart at linebacker for where the Steelers were at that point. Again, Y fue muy en flux. Hedió Jonathan Bostick en el año de la primera vez. En el año de 2018. Y así, incluso si no se está haciendo un gran rato con Shaq Leonard, creo que su peak de esos tres o cuatro años, todavía, para mí, se puede hacer un argumento por por qué él se pertenece en el primer round.

1:19:18Shaq Leonard, es casi casi casi en la misma conversación como Vandras, donde es como, este es un buen jugador, es tan solo por la injuries. Y con el Steelers, I think that you look at maybe an offshoot of this, too, is it prevents the Devin Bush trade up a year later. Right. That's right. I didn't think about that part of it. Yeah. That's has a 19 where they traded it up in the first round, get a 10 overall 20 to 10 to get Devin Bush. So, yeah, you're also not only getting a good player here, you're preventing a future mistake a year later. I like that.

1:19:50Robert Mays: This is a really hard one, but because you only get really you get four seasons out of Shaq Leonard. pero he was first team All-Pro three of those seasons and he was second team in the fourth year. I just don't know exactly what to do with that, but it's just so tempting for the peak and where the Steelers team was at that point. They were super competitive and I didn't even think about the Devin Bush trade part of it. I feel good about this one even if you're only getting a few years out of Shaq Leonard if his career played out the same way. The Jacksonville Jaguars at 29. This one's an easy one because they took Taven Bryan In the first round so anything they do Is probably going to be an improvement on what they Ultimately did in real life What are you doing with the Jags at 29?

1:20:37I had him sticking with the same position Going to Ron Payne Who has been A good player, maybe not a great player But a solid to good player For the majority Of his career in Washington And so Jaguars With what didn't work out with Taven Bryan I think Deron Payne kind of fixes that

1:20:58Robert Mays: Yeah, I think that's a very good one I had Calvin Ridley going here Again, it's fun that he eventually did end up on the Jaguars I would like to read you the three leading target getters on the 2018 Jaguars in a post-Allen Robinson world DeeDee Westbrook Dante Moncrief and Keelan Cole Wow I think Calvin Ridley probably could have earned some targets on that 2018 Jaguars team Yeah, I think you're right And it's funny that I had Calvin really going to the Titans at 22 You had him going 29 to the Jaguars So we're just We're getting Tim Dua's teams A little bit earlier 30, the Minnesota Vikings They took Mike Hughes in the actual draft Who did you have them going with in the redraft?

1:21:44I had him going Wyatt Teller The Vikings They were rolling out Mike Rummers And Tom Compton At their starting guards en 2018. I think Tom Compton did my taxes two months ago. It wasn't a good group and so add Wyatt Teller in there. And I know with Teller it wasn't like an immediate hit. It wasn't like from the get-go he was being a Pro Bowl level player. Took a few years but still I think at the end of the first round like this to upgrade your interior even if you have to be a little bit patient I like that pick for Minnesota.

1:22:22Robert Mays: I like this one because this is another team that they've been trying to fix the interior of their offensive line in perpetuity. And so trying to get ahead of it a little bit. I do like that. I did something here with the Vikings that we've done a few times. They took an outside corner in this draft. I just gave them another one. I put DJ Reed here and DJ Reed is another one of those players kind of similar to why I tell her it came came along a little bit slower. You know, it wasn't an immediate hit, but ended up becoming a really good player and is still getting paid. not at the top of the market but like a top 10 corner based on the play that he put on the field over the last couple years.

1:22:57Robert Mays: It got rewarded by the Lions I think in a way that made sense so them getting another corner here the other guy I would throw out that I was tempted to throw into the first round was Taron Johnson. So they Mackenzie Alexander was the slot corner on those teams and so putting Taron Johnson on those Vikings teams instead of Mackenzie Alexander I think that one also makes some sense. y es es muy bueno que se dice que con el siguiente pick con 31 con el patriota cuatro players porque yo no sé cómo era en 32 en baltimore 31, lo que fue cuatro players para mí DJ Reed y Tron Johnson fueron dos de esos los dos y luego el otro Puna Ford y el otro Zach Seiler entre esos cuatro players yo estaba intentando decidiendo quién quería que yo con el patriota I ended up going Zach Seiler Just seemed like a Patriots type of type of guy.

1:23:49He really is. Just a great story, obviously, where he came from being on a walk on and being drafted late. And then I believe he was cut. Like, I mean, he's just everything that happened with, you know, his trajectory is not, you know, the normal way. But he's made it through. And when he's healthy, he's been he's been outstanding for Miami. So I went Zach Sadler there at 31, but Puna Ford, DJ Reed, Teron Johnson were three names that I kind of wrote down for that spot.

1:24:17Robert Mays: Yeah, I think that Sadler makes a lot of sense. He's one of the two guys, him and Wyatt Teller are probably the guys that pained me the most to not put in my first round. And so the fact that you snuck both of them in there, I like that. I already mentioned I had Corlin Sutton going here. And then at 32, I had Sam Darnold going there. You had him going at 25 to the Ravens. Donde tú habías ,순 librete de varie balanced takee con ese tiriículo.べ decades de ver el casting por el primero, más o menos mueren laине Standards. Bino. no hab orbitó el trabajo creado Party, or todavía no hay un viaje que el control para lograr que el balance batón de esas.

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1:25:18Robert Mays: All right, so that's it. I'm sure it pains Ravens fans the fact that they have to come out of the 2018 draft without Lamar Jackson. And the same for Bills fans. The fact that they'll leave an exercise like this without Josh Allen. These are timelines that neither of those fan bases has any interest in exploring. Bueno, yo creo que la Ravens, ellos han perdido tres, al menos tres, porque ellos han perdido Lamar Jackson, Orlando Brown Jr., Mark Andrews. Así que tres de los actual draft picks de la draft se han perdido en este primer round. El Browns han tres con Baker Mayfield, Denzel Ward, Nick Chubb.

1:25:55Yep. That's interesting. I don't think any, I think just those two had three. I don't think any other team had more than that. But 49ers obviously did well for themselves with Fred Warner, Mike McGlinchey. Yeah, that's interesting to look back.

1:26:10Robert Mays: The Bucs had Vitavia and Carlton Davis. Yeah, so there were a few teams that had two. And then for me, the Colts. The Colts had three for me. I had Quentin Nelson, Braden Smith, and Shaq Leonard. El Eagles Estaba en la lada Y Josh Sweat Late in the draft Kind of an all timer For Howie there That put them on the right path I mean that was kind of the stretch Where they were hitting more in the middle rounds Than they were hitting on their first round picks For a little while Obviously things have changed for the Eagles Over the last couple years It's a fascinating exercise I'm glad we did it Again I've never done it before pero es un buen día de la memoria un poco aquí con el día de la semana a la hora de irme de la semana espero que te haya gustado la semana de la semana y vamos a estar y vamos a estar en el día de la semana de 2026 draft talk aquí antes de la semana de la semana I can't wait we got a lot de things planned y así es exciting we do have a lot de fun stuff planned can't tell you everything right now but there is some fun stuff on the horizon on the athletic football show as far as our draft coverage is concerned so be on the lookout for that.

1:27:16Robert Mays: I'm sure we'll be talking about it very soon. For now, that's all we got. Appreciate you guys listening. Me and Derek will be back tomorrow.

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