🕹️“eBayStop” — GameStop’s craziest idea. Frosted Flakes’ toy comeback. Jane Street’s nerd $$$. +Cheap Guac

0:28This is Nick. The U.S.'s Project Freedom was intended to guide ships through the strait, but instead the Iranians opened fire yesterday. So oil rose, stocks fell, and yet today's podcast is the best one we've ever done. Jack, three fantastic stories for today's show. What have we got on the T-Boy? For our first story, what happens when the king of meme stocks tries to acquire eBay? Well, we just found out, and it happened yesterday. For our second story, Kellogg is bringing toys back to your cereal boxes for the first time in almost 20 years. Because even sugary cereal needs a little care. And our third and final story, a firm you've never even heard of just had the best quarter in Wall Street history.

1:05It's called Jane Street. Jane Street. It's the nerdiest company ever. And we got their secret job interview questions. But besties, before we hit that wonderful mix of stories. Jack, how many M &Ms do you have to fit in a 747 airplane? We'll get to that in a bit. I guess we'll get to that in a bit. Yeti, today is Cinco de Mayo and Taco Tuesday. So Jack and I were talking. and we thought we'd share one of our favorite financial theories for just such an occasion. Guac is always extra. Ah, guac is always extra. Translation, Jack? In economics, there's no such thing as a free lunch. But here's the wild twist, Yetis.

1:37While guac is always extra, right now, it's less extra than ever. We got a trade war, a real war in Iran. Prices of everything have been popping for five years. And yet the iconic avocado that has bankrupted our Venmo account is down. And it's according to Fed data. Avocado prices are lower today than they were 10 years ago. Get this. The average avocado over at Kroger, it's under one buck. Small avocados, they're 45 cents at HEB. Chipotle is still charging two bucks, 95 cents, but everywhere else, it is cheaper. The avocado has gone from Ferrari prices to Fords. Yeah, it's gone from Hermes prices to mayonnaise prices.

2:13And the reason is down in Mexico, we had the best avocado harvest since the Mayans. Yeah, those Mayans. You see, we had the perfect amount of rain, the perfect amount of sun. 2026, the weather has been avocado idyllic. And longer term, Mexico has been doubling down on millennials' favorite fruit by changing fields from whatever was there before to avocado trees today. As a result, we imported a record 2.5 billion of Mexican avocados last year. At 20 % lower prices than last year. Holy guacamole, besties. This is not investing advice, but we suggest you buy the dip. That's actually Cinco de Mayo advice.

2:47Jack, happy Cinco. Let's hit our trade story. 14 years before this song, two boys from the Northeast met in the dorm. They had an idea to cause a cultural storm. It's the best one yet, but the best is the norm. Jack Nick, that's it. I don't even think they need to practice. 50%, that's a fat tip. T-Boy City on your at list. If you know, you know, cause we ready to go. We can't wait no more, so just start the show.

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5:35For our first story, GameStop is trying to acquire eBay, which is like a minnow trying to eat a shark. Whether or not that eBay meme acquisition happens, this tells us something about the future. All right, Jack, let me just make sure I'm reading the whiteboard here correctly. We got a company worth 12 billion bucks that just tried to buy a company worth 46 billion bucks by offering them 56 million bucks. The math makes no sense. The numbers taste funky on my tongue, Jack. But math has never stopped GameStop and it definitely It hasn't stopped GameStop investors. No, it has not, Jack. And central to this story is our protagonist, Mr.

6:12Ryan Cohen. Ryan Cohen's big life achievement was being the founder of Chewy, the legendary dog food company. But he's famous because of GameStop. Ah, GameStop. During the pandemic, he bought 13 % of this video game store and then dudes on Reddit, and yeah, it was mostly dudes, noticed what was happening. So a band of rebel investors with Robinhood accounts and stimulus checks took GameStop stock to the moon. To the moon! And took hedge funds to hell. And Ryan Cohen was the central character in that meme stock revolution of 2021. You remember it, you sat down, you stood up, and you sat back down again.

6:46But now, Mr. Ryan Cohen is chairman and CEO of GameStop, and he has now tried to pivot them from video games to NFTs. But now he's doing something that sounds like even more of a joke than that. Oh, but oh, it is so real, Jack. What is going on exactly? Ryan Cohen is trying to acquire eBay, a company four times bigger than GameStop. Ryan Cohen dropped the news on Sunday night over the weekend, but then wouldn't explain how he'd get the cash to pull off this major heist. On CNBC with Andrew Ross Sorkin, he was asked repeatedly, how on earth are you going to pay for a company four times bigger than you?

7:18And he just kept on saying, the details are on our website. But here's the vision. Here's what Ryan Cohen is picturing. Jack, why don't you bedazzle that vision for us? He thinks eBay has become a bit of a zombie e-commerce company that still has huge potential. You see, if you can combine eBay's e-commerce with GameStop's 1600 brick and mortar stores and double down on the trading cards, collectibles, and vintage tech category, then you can compete with Amazon and create an Amazonian killer. Side note, I'm a huge eBay super fan right now. Yeah, we should point that out. I use it for stuff I can't buy on Amazon.

7:54Specifically, a vintage Yankees jacket for a New York Live show. That's what we wore on stage. A used baseball glove, because I'm not going to take two years to break in a new glove. Jack tells me about it every day, it's a true thing. And a Bob Marley vinyl of his live album, because you're not going to listen to No Woman, No Cry any way but live. And eBay stock, it's actually at an all-time high right now, given everything Jack just described. And we're rooting for eBay, because it'd be nice if Amazon had some legit e-commerce competition. The reality is, there are just certain things you can't buy on Prime.

8:23But again, how is little GameStop going to acquire eBay, a company four times more expensive than GameStop on the stock market? Jack, this is like Rudy walking into Notre Dame's field and asking to buy the team. But Nick, Ryan Cohen did say he has basically a pre-qualification letter from TD Bank for a loan up to$20 billion. And Jack Ryan said that he will issue and sell as much GameStop stop as necessary in order to pay for the rest. And that's GameStop's meme superpower. They can issue stock in unlimited quantities like an ATM machine to raise cash. Only GameStop can do this because the guys on Reddit are loyal to Cohen, just like Tesla shareholders are loyal to Elon.

9:03It's like Ryan Cohen has an unlimited stack of Monopoly money, but these guys on Wall Street bets will pay real cash for them. So Ryan sent a one-page letter to eBay's CEO, docu-signed it, and then tweeted it out for the whole world to see. I'm buying a company four times my size. He didn't even draw out his own signature. He just used the generic DocuSign signature of Ryan Cohen. It's never as good. It's just never as good a signature. So Jack, what's the takeaway for our, but it's really hard to sign something online. Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at GameStop and eBay? This meme story has a mainstay lesson that live commerce is the future.

9:41Yet he's in his letter to eBay's board. Ryan Cohen lays out this exact vision, win the live commerce category. What is live commerce? It's QVC, but adapted to the digital age. You see, Cohen's real vision is that GameStop's 1600 stores will double as broadcasting studios for e-commerce influencers. And while these influencers are live auctioning some vintage tech, it'll be streamed on the eBay app, a never-ending feed of things being sold right now to the highest bidder in the next 10 minutes. I got a baseball mitt,$10, broke it in since my daddy gave it to me. Now, that sounds really fun, that concept of live commerce that Nick and I just described.

10:22And it's already here. It's huge in China. Get this, Yetis. 60 % of all online shopping in China is done like this, through live video commerce. China does almost as much live shopping online as we do all shopping online here in America. Well, Ryan Cohen is betting that that TikTok-style instant commerce happening in China, it's going to happen here too, and we agree with him. So besties, this meme story has a mainstay lesson. Live commerce is coming. For our second story, for the first time in over a decade, Kellogg is bringing back toys inside the cereal box. Because the toy at the bottom of the cereal box was actually the first growth hack of business.

11:06Oh, Yetis, hold on to your tater tots, because no meal has been more disrupted than breakfast. I really thought you were going to say more scrambled. Yetis, on the go millennials, we prioritize time. That's the kicker here. Waffles, pancakes, bacon and eggs, that's out. Acai and smoothie and David bars are in. But now that alcohol is down, breakfast is up, baby. No to hangover. Yes to hash browns. And Gen Z, they eat veggies for breakfast. Can you believe that? What's going on here? Yeah, so Starbucks' fastest growing meal. Yep, it's breakfast. And amid all of that change, besties, cereal has been the loser.

11:41For 25 years, cereal sales have shrank in the United States, with one exception, just one year of the pandemic. Toucan Sams, Tony the Tiger, Trix Bunny, all of them endangered species of aisle six. It's been so bad that three years ago, Kellogg's spun off the cereal business into a separate company. Yeah, the sales, they were not great, Tony. Sorry, they are not great right now, man. So here's cereal's comeback plan. Bring back the toy. Get this. Just last week, Kellogg Cereals added Toy Story toys to the bottom of the box for the first time in nearly two decades. To promote the fifth sequel of Toy Story and save cereal.

12:18But Yetis, Jack and I found this fascinating. We dove in T-boy style. And Jack, could you pour on a little bit of context for us, please, with milk? 100 years ago, cereal actually went viral by adding toys to the inside of the box. Yetis, this is how cereal got its start. Back in 1912, Kellogg Company slides a book into the box of Raisin Bran, and boom, they sold two and a half million boxes. General Mills got jealous, so in the 1920s, they put baseball cards into boxes of whole wheat flakes. Oh, and Jack, do you know what cereal whole wheat flakes became? No. That was the original Wheaties. It began with baseball cards.

12:51By the 1950s, the gimmick had become a ritual. Cornflakes stuck a toy submarine in a box just to promote the U.S. Navy. And in 1989, Post's Golden Crisp cereal stuck a whole teddy bear inside that box. He was bear spreading at the bottom of the box. I'm pushing the limits of this thing. But yet he is, as you know, capitalism giveth and capitalism taketh away. By the 1990s, cereal box toys started to get canceled. Rising costs, box optimization, and angry lawyers, they killed the cereal box toy. Um, choking hazard? Submarine, that was it. That was it. Yeah, yeah. Mom, I need help. Now, the spirit of the cereal box toy did live on in the McDonald's Happy Meal, but the breakfast tables felt a little lonely.

13:33ever since. Yeah, and it's not the same. You got to work for your cereal box toy, Jack. With McDonald's, you just order it up and it's not easy. It's too easy. Well, speaking of work, those box tops that you had to clip off and send in the mail, that was a little too much work. Well, you're supposed to ask an adult for help, Jack. So yeah, it is 2026 and nostalgia never dies. Millennial parents, remember that Captain America toy that was in their Cap 'n Crunch back in the day. And it's millennial parents who are buying the kids cereal right now. So Kellogg is trying to start a box cereal renaissance by tapping into millennial 90s nostalgia.

14:05Plus, kid-alting, if Lego sales to adults are in all-time high, why not rice crispy sales to adults? And Jack, I got one more trend for you. What about the anti-screen itch this scatches in? If your kids are on the iPad during breakfast, that iPad will get turned off once a toy falls out of the Froot Loops box. And ironically, that toy is the carrot in the box of sugary cereal. So Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Kellogg? What is your version of rinse and repeat? Ah, rinse and repeat. Yetis, that's our favorite psychonomics growth hack to make you pay more. Rinse thoroughly, then repeat.

14:39Adding those two words to the back of the shampoo bottle instructions, then repeat? Nick, that was a growth hack that nearly doubled sales overnight. Oh, Jack, I got another one for you. The wide jar. Peanut butter companies widened their jars years ago to make it easier to scoop twice as much, which also probably doubled sales. But the cereal box toy was the OG version of this. because by placing the toy at the bottom of the box, the kids had to finish the cereal to start playing. The result? The kids ate the cereal twice as fast, which doubled the sales of the cereal. It's all actually the same concept.

15:10Don't change the product, just change the presentation of the product and that can boost sales big time. Besties, these are the OG physical growth hacks before the digital age brought us streaks and loudifications and algorithms. So without changing the product today, simply ask, what is your version of rinse and repeat? Simply ask, what is your version of rinse and repeat? I swear, I swear, you did that. That was a commercial break. Now, a quick word from our sponsor. Dell. Yeti's Dell PCs with Intel inside are built for the moments that matter. For the moments you plan and the ones you don't.

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17:34For our third and final story, who the heck is Jane Street? Answer? It's Axe Capital from Billions, but the staff is all a bunch of Goodwill huntings. Yetis, this is the nerdiest company we've ever seen, but they just set the biggest record we've ever seen. But Nick, let's start with the geography. Because Jane Street is a street in the West Village of New York City, named after a man whose property it was built on. And Jane Street is historic. Get this, Alexander Hamilton, he died in a building on Jane Street after his duel against Aaron Burke. And the Jane Hotel, founded in 1907, took in survivors of the Titanic right there on Jane Street.

18:13But back in 1999, one guy started a trading firm in an office on Jane Street and named the company after that address. That company, Jane Street Capital, just added to Jane Street's epic history. Because besties, Jane Street Capital just had the biggest year ever on Wall Street. 40 billion bucks in trading revenue. That is more trading revenue than JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs. It's twice as much as Bank of America. It's three times as much as Citadel. It's more than McDonald's is bringing in and they're slinging burgers across the world. Add it all up and Jane Street Capital is the best firm on Wall Street that you have never heard of.

18:50But yetis, how is Jane Street beating Goldman Sachs with 1 13th the number of employees? I don't know, but this is a miracle on price. This is the biggest upside in finance since the dollar beat the pound. So Jane Street is the nerdiest company of all time. They're a proprietary trading firm, which is like a hedge fund, but trading with the owner's money instead of someone else's money. They focus on quantitative trading and they need the best quants on earth to pull all that off. The result is Axe Capital from the show Billions on Showtime, but with the nerdiest cast of characters ever. They're recruiting almost exclusively from MIT, Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge.

19:24That's where they go. And they foster youth geniuses with chess tournaments and math camps, no joke. Which they host at their office. They don't care about your resume. You see, at Jane Street, what they care about is your raw, problem-solving genius. And you know those comically brain-teasing quantitative interview questions somebody once asked you? You always associate them with Google. Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of. Jane Street invented them. Like, Jack, how many M &Ms fit inside a 747 airplane? Where do you begin on that? You better explain your thinking as you try to get to the answer.

19:53I'd start by saying, well, with Skittles, it'd be different than M &Ms. Here's another one that they're famous for. What are the odds that me, the interviewer, is related to a professional baseball player on an MLB roster right now? Or then they'll really throw you off. They'll ask you something like, um, if I ate at Panda Express every meal of the year, what is the implied volatility of ordering overcooked rice that is outside the standard deviation of six? Remember, it's not that you get the question right. It's that you show them how you think about structuring your answer. It's a trick question.

20:22Panda Express never overcooks the rice jack. So the people they end up hiring, they're not wolves of Wall Street. They're wolves of the CS lab. And if you are hired, your job is to make money trading on Wall Street. That's it. That's the focus. Your job is to get the owners of the company even richer. And if you do, you'll receive a giant bonus at the end of the year. And we got Jane Street's receipts that prove it. Get this. of that$40 billion in revenue,$9 billion was paid to employees. That is$2.7 million of total compensation per employee last year across 3 ,000 employees. All right, Jack, could you sprinkle on even more financial context for us, please?

20:55Okay,$40 billion in revenue. They paid out$9 billion in compensation. The rest,$31 billion is pure profit, and that's an 80 % profit margin. Apple is running at a 25 % profit margin. Jane Street is doing 80 % profit margins. It's revenge of the nerds. And for their work, they get to buy a third yacht for their second home because they were first in their class at Harvard. So Jack, what's the takeaway for our calculated nerdy buddies over at Jane Street? To beat the sharks, be an octopus. Yetis, the wildest part of Jane Street's crazy interview questions isn't what they ask. It's what they don't ask.

21:32They don't ask about finance. The world's most successful finance firm right now doesn't ask about finance in their job interview. In fact, Jack and I went to their interview page and it says, problem solving required, finance background optional. Because Jane Street isn't hiring for a role, they're hiring for a mindset. Exactly. They want a mindset of seeing what others do not see. They want a mindset that can crunch numbers quickly to seize a brief opportunity window before it closes. Or see what happens without crunching the numbers. Like sharks have MBAs, but Jane Street hires the math kids who are too weird for business school.

22:05And with a record setting$40 billion of trading revenue last year, which beat every firm on Wall Street. Jane Street's octopuses are beating the Wall Street sharks. Jane Street besties. It proves that the most important variable in hiring is thinking. Jack, could you whip up the takeaways for us for T-Boy Tuesday? GameStop could acquire eBay, which would create a physical and online shopping giant. A meme company has a mainstay vision that live commerce is coming to America. For our second story, Kellogg is adding toys into cereal boxes again, starting with a Toy Story branded plastic spoon. This is Kellogg's version of rinse and repeat, a growth hack that didn't require changing the actual product.

22:45And our third and final story is Jane Street. They just set a Wall Street record for trading revenue last quarter. It's revenge of the nerds. Oh, because to stand out in an industry of sharks, be an octopus. But besties, this pod's not over yet. Here's what else you need to know today. First, Spirit Airlines abruptly shut down over the weekend. Yetis, this was the Chinatown bus of the skies. 300 canceled flights, 60 ,000 stranded passengers, and 17 ,000 workers without a job now. I know a lot of people joke about Spirit Airlines, but you got to remember, they disrupted the industry. They made airlines catered to budget travelers really for the first time at a scale.

23:22So while Spirit is dead, its legacy lives on in something called basic economy, which every airline now offers for like 100 or 200 bucks less than all the other tickets. And second, Palantir announced earnings yesterday. They get this, a shocking 85 % jump in sales in Q1 compared to last year. The military uses Palantir to find the bad guys. The rest of the government uses Palantir for who knows what. And increasingly, businesses are using Palantir to crunch numbers and find insights. And Palantir is such a cult following, they're now selling merch. That's right, this AI defense biz now sells fashionable chore coats.

23:53Yeah, we're talking about Palantir. And finally, ChadCBT has another problem, but this time it's kind of a delightful problem. They're just too nerdy. Yeah, they keep talking about goblins. over at ChatGPT. Goblins, gremlins, trolls, ogres. It's like Dwight Schrute took over the brain of ChatGPT for a day. The latest chat, for some reason, sounded really geeky. So OpenAI changed the code to fix it and basically said, stop talking so much about goblins every time people talk to you. They prompted themselves to stop talking about goblins. ChatGPT. It used to suck up to you, and now it sounds like a Dungeons and Dragons fanboy.

24:29Now time for the best fact yet. This one is the answer to yesterday's T-Boy trivia. Jack, what do we got? This past weekend was the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Shareholder Meeting, the first not hosted by Warren Buffett. We call it Coachella for capitalism. And our big question was this. If you had invested$10 ,000 in Berkshire Hathaway back when it started, 61 years ago, how much would that$10K be worth today? $5 million. There were a lot of guesses. There was$5 million,$10 million. We had hundreds of thousands, tens of millions. But Jack, what is the answer? $10 ,000 in Berkshire Hathaway invested 61 years ago would be worth$550 million.

25:07Half a bill on that bad boy. That's two lessons right there. First is compounding interest and how powerful that is, which Warren Buffett is all about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the other is the power of not selling. One of the best investing strategies Jack and I have, Yetis, forget your password. Just set it and forget it. Yetis, you looked fantastic today, Jack. You are glowing over there. It must be that discount guac. Is that what's going on? I am getting tacos tonight. Remember to tap to follow. That way, you get T-Boy every single day. And Jack and I, we'll see you manana.

25:41And before we go, a happy birthday to the legendary Sky Brink. He is going to the moon and he's doing it straight out of Brookline, Massachusetts. Happy birthday to Grace Murray in Millinocket, Maine, who's also graduating this week. And Lauren, Katie, and Nikki, three besties from Chicago, are celebrating their 43rd birthdays on the same day doing logistics. Happy birthday to Mina, who's probably on the subway right now on the way to work in New York. And Ed Tomczyk, happy birthday down in Pittsburgh doing the black and yellow for the B-Day. Happy birthday to Eremine Jozel in Nevada. And Sterling Salzburg, enjoy the birthday down the street in San Francisco.

26:15Happy birthday to Lee Allen in New London, North Carolina. And Kat Elliott, we see your birthday over in New York City. Have the best one yet. Happy birthday to Jesper McWing Day, the ultra marathoner in Valencia, California. And Sarah Cecilia Flores, enjoy that birthday with some oysters down in Charleston, South Carolina. And happy birthday to Matt Way-Charitana in Seattle, Washington. And Chase in Virginia, enjoy that one-year wedding anniversary celebrating in Florida. And congratulations to Lindsay Ardiff and Ainsley Foe. They're celebrating the three-year anniversary of their surprise wedding in Chicago.

26:44And to anyone else celebrating something today, make it a T-boy. Celebrate the wins.

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