🐣 “Shoes to GPUs” — Allbirds 800% AI surge. Bad News Bull Market. Alex vs. Alix. +BieberChella

0:00This is Nick. This is Jack. It's Thursday, the new Friday, April 16th. And today's pod is the best one yet. This is a T-Boy. The top three pop business news stories you need to know today. I'm sorry, Jack. Today we got all-time highs, influencers, and AI shoes. All that's on the pod. It's a terrific mix of stories. Absolutely the best pod we've ever done. Jack, let's get right to it. What do we got on today's T-Boy? For our first story, Allbirds had plummeted by 99%. They sold their brand and their sneaker designs for pennies on the dollar. But yesterday, Allbirds stocks surged as much as 800 % because they're pivoting from shoes to GPUs.

0:37Allbirds is now an AI company. Can't smell Allbirds without AI jacks. For our second story, stocks just hit all-time highs. The S &P 500 hit 7 ,000 points yesterday for the first time ever. It's a bad news bull market, besties. and we can explain it all using gravity. And our third and final story. Influencer Alex Earl is fighting with podcaster Alex Cooper and the drama is in the comments. But the battle is over their business models. But Yetis, before we hit that wonderful mix of stories. I mean, it's like we told you, it's the best mix we've ever done. We didn't tell you about Coachella. No, we didn't, we didn't.

1:11You spend$500 to stand in the desert waiting in line for music. Yetis, it's the legendary California concert with more porta-potties than people, Coachella. But the highlight of Coachella this year, it's Justin Bieber singing. Sorry, Jack, I think we mean Justin Bieber scrolling. Yeah, because Biebs didn't have dances, costume changes, and bright lights this year. No, no, no, no, no. The only thing that Bieber brought on stage was a MacBook laptop. And an HDMI adapter, because he opened up his laptop to cast old YouTube videos of his up on the screen. No joke. Bieber's set was no singing, no dancing, no beauty, and no beats.

1:47Just a man, a hoodie, and a Wi-Fi password. We were watching Bieber watching Bieber. Justin Bieber was reportedly paid$10 million by Coachella, but all he did was waterboard the audience with YouTube videos. Honestly, Jack, boldest move in music since Beethoven cold dropped his ninth. Nick and I respect the move, though, because Justin Bieber is the first true algorithmic artist. Yet he's never forget Bieber was actually discovered back on YouTube. In 2007, YouTube made his bowl cut go viral. And now, nearly 20 years later, Bieber just turned his old videos into an entire Coachella concert. And now Bieber's YouTube searches are jumping like baby, baby, baby.

2:24So besties, when it comes to revenue streams, learn to love yourself. Believe, baby. Believe. But it's in three stories.

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5:21Support our show and let them know we sent you after the checkout. Lisa.com, promo code TBOY. For our first story, by popular demand, because we got so many DMs on this, Allbirds stock surged 800 % yesterday because the defunct sneaker brand is pivoting to AI from shoes to GPUs. Sounds unprecedented, but it's not. We saw the same thing happen to a different company nine years ago, and we know how this is going to end. Besties, here's what Jack and I are thinking. One day, someone is going to write a tragic opera about Allbirds. Maybe it's us. After the IPO, five years later, the stock had fallen 99 % like a sparrow that hit a windshield wiper.

6:01Allbirds, once worth$4 billion, part of the millennial uniform, was bought earlier this month for just$39 mil. Allbirds had gone from disruptor to dodo. And as loyal besties and yetis out there, you know Jack and I have done about a half a dozen podcasts on Allbirds becoming Fallbirds. And we'd say there are a full flock of reasons why, right Jack? The first reason Allbirds fell is the three F's of fads. Food, fitness, and fashion. Those are the three industries that tend to be short-term fads. You're quick to get the ick. Second is the Charlie problem. Ah, the Charlie problem. Allbirds couldn't agree on who their target customer was.

6:33Was it Charlie, a middle-aged man, or Charlie, a young athletic female? And finally, sustainability, sadly, doesn't sell. Nope, it's style, price, and quality, and convenience that are the top four factors when you make your buying decision. So in March, we covered the news that Allbirds sold their key assets to a random financial company you'd never heard of. I'm sorry, Jack, pause the pod for a sec. Allbirds didn't sell the company, right? They sold the assets. They sold the shoe designs, the brand Allbirds, and the name. So I gotta ask Jack, what happens to the hollow skeleton of a company that is Allbirds.

7:03An aggressive and seemingly ridiculous pivot to artificial intelligence. That's what happens, Nick. By the end of yesterday, Allbirds stock had risen 650%. The best day for any business on the stock market this year. Sit down, stand up, and double knot our portfolios again. The stock went from$3 at the beginning of the day to$18 at its high. It hit 21 at one point. So what exactly changed while we were prepping this pod, Jack? What changed is a press release was published that Nick and I thought must have been fake. And now besties, when Jack and I jump in T-boy style, we read the whole press release.

7:37And at this point, we're not going to explain what happens. We'll let the press release do the talking. Allbirds will pivot its business to AI compute infrastructure with a long-term vision to become a fully integrated GPU as a service or GPU-ass business and AI native cloud solutions provider. Sounds like a script from a semiconductor sitcom. What is going on? That is the verbatim hero sentence of the Allbirds press release from yesterday. Reminder, besties, this is Allbirds, the company that put wool into a shoelace. False. Nick, this is Newbird AI, because in connection with the pivot, the company anticipates changing their name to Newbird AI.

8:16I mean, Jack, this is like Nike pretending they're suddenly NVIDIA. Yeah, we're pivoting from Air Force Ones to Sail Force One. You know you're in a bubble, Jack, when a sheep hair shoe company thinks they're a GPU company. This is absurd. AI infrastructure that requires tens of billions of dollars. And these guys have experience in shoes, not GPUs. You can't spell Allbirds without AI. I got to point that out again, my friend. That's the only slide in the pitch deck. So besties, we got to sprinkle on some more context here, don't we, Jack? Neither of the Allbirds co-founders are with the company anymore.

8:48So this news was announced by a new CEO. And he says he has$50 million lined up in financing to make this metamorphosis happen. He just needs shareholder approval, and he expects the money to arrive in six months. But in the meantime, WallStreetBets on Reddit is not waiting for that money to show up in their inbox. No, they didn't, Nick. Allbirds was the number one discussed topic on WallStreetBets yesterday, as the stock rose 800 % at its high. I'm sorry, Jack. Pause the pod. This means Allbirds has gone full circle. From selling to tech bros to becoming a tech bro. Wild. Which means we got to whip up the takeaways.

9:21Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Allbirds? Don't confuse a costume for a pivot. Yetis, Jack and I would like to take this moment to remind you about a New York-based iced tea company we covered on the pod called Long Island Beverage. Back in 2017, they rebranded to Long Island Blockchain to, quote-unquote, explore and leverage blockchain in crypto opportunities. And back in 17, on that day, their stock surged 380%. On word, a lemonade business was going all in on Bitcoin. And what happened one year later? Long Island Blockchain stock had fallen so far, they got delisted from the stock market.

9:57Now, Yetis, look, Jack and I love Allbirds, but clearly what remains of the company ain't the same Allbirds as we've been putting on our feet. So their strategy appears to be the same strategy of Long Island Blockchain nine years ago. It's a three-parter. Abandon the core business, change your name to a trendy word, and capture some online investor vibes. We wouldn't be shocked if a bunch of Allbirds insiders sold the stock yesterday. They couldn't believe their plan worked. Now look, it is possible that Allbirds gets that 50 million bucks in financing and does pull off a pivot to some kind of AI.

10:25But it's much more likely that they don't get the financing because this sounds absurd and the stock goes to zero. But whatever happens to Allbirds, never forget, don't confuse a costume for a pivot. For our second story, we're in the middle of a war with Iran and yet stocks just hit all-time highs? What's going on? Is Wall Street singing Everything is Awesome like those characters in the Lego movie? It's such a good song, it's such a good movie. We're going to demystify how the headlines are so horrible, but stocks are so stupendous. Yetis, let's talk macro to sprinkle on the context. The Strait of Hormuz, it is double blockaded right now.

11:02The fighting is paused, but the conclusion of the war in Iran is totally unclear. And that is why an April survey of 68 economists by the Wall Street Journal say the war in Iran is going to make everything in the economy, spoiler, worse. The war makes inflation higher, economic growth slower, and job creation weaker, according to 68 economists. I mean, Jack and I just did a whole story on the BLT drama on tomato prices hitting all-time highs, right, Jack? Oil is messing with trucks, fertilizer, diesel, regular unleaded, aluminum, and tomatoes. Besties, all but one of those economists we just mentioned thinks that oil is not going to return to pre-war levels until 2028.

11:38And that's not all. The University of Michigan's Consumer Confidence Survey announced in March that American vibes about the economy are at all-time record lows. Okay, we're talking how all-time lows, Jack. Worse than when inflation was 9 % in 2022. Okay, worse than when we had an unemployment rate of 10 % after the 08 financial crisis. Asian countries remain in economic emergencies. They're doing work from home over in Thailand with four-day work weeks just to ration energy. And despite all of that economic turbulence and damage, the S &P 500 climbed to an all-time record high on Wednesday. This ceasefire is flimsy, but this relief rally, it has been unstoppable, man.

12:18The S &P 500 is up 10 % in the last 10 trading days. Oh, I'm sorry, Jack. Can you tell us about the tech-heavy nifty Nasdaq? What are they doing? It's up 15.5 % in the last 10 trading days. This is insane. The only thing we could do is press that button. So we're calling it a bad news bull market. It's a bad news bull market, Yetis. And we found five arguments explaining why stocks are at all-time highs while vibes are at all-time lows. Number one, the straight is not as important as you think. Oil's got some options. Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, they have pipelines that can move 7 million and 1.5 million barrels per day.

12:52That's not a full replacement because the straight does 20 million barrels a day on a normal day. It's enough to prevent a market collapse. It's not too shabby. The second explainer is the petroleum paradox. High oil prices are perversely a good thing for U.S. stocks. You see, Eddie, since the U.S. is a net exporter of oil, the economic damage of this war is much worse abroad. So investors across the world are looking for the best place to invest when oil is at$100 a barrel, and the answer is the United States. Third reason, it's the profit puppies. Stocks are driven by profits, and companies, they're announcing record profits these days.

13:24J.P. Morgan, Goldman, Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, they all announced Q1 earnings this week, and they all crushed expectations. All birds is pivoting to an AI company. I mean, what a world. Number four, investors focus on the future, not the present. That's right. The future is AI helping companies cut costs like Ozempic helps people lose weight. The oil shock is just a speed bump on the highway to AI. And then finally, Jack, to mention our burrito buddies, we should mention the taco. President Trump won't re-escalate the war despite all the threats he's making. Stocks were down 10%, and that seems to be the most the president was willing to bear.

13:57So Jack, add it all up. And what's the takeaway for our bad news bull market buddies looking at all time highs? The stock market has a force of gravity and it goes up. Yeah, Jack and I were talking before the pod. It feels like Wall Street is singing, everything is awesome from the Lego movie right now. And based on the mega trends, it may be right. Zoom out on the S &P 500 and you'll see an arrow that goes up and to the right. This is why Nick and I never try to time markets. That's right. Like instead, we always say, keep your money invested during a downturn. Stop checking your portfolio. We've said forget your password so you don't even go in there during moments like this.

14:31Time and time again, we've seen these walls of worry that markets always eventually overcome. You see, the megatrends are simply too pro-profit for any risk to keep stocks down for too long. What megatrends are we talking about? Well, record high stock ownership by Americans means there's more buy orders than sell orders on a regular day. And Jack, technology keeps widening profit margins and AI can supercharge that. And the US dollar is the world's reserve currency. No sign that that's changing anytime soon. So besties, add it all up and one market analyst says the S &P 500 feels indestructible right now.

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17:26For our third and final story, are you Team Alex or are you Team Alex? Because Alex Cooper and Alex Earl are beefing right now. It is Alex versus Alex. It is Licks versus Lex. While we wait for the real dirt to be dished by one of them, we analyze who's the player and who's the coach. Now, Yetis, if you haven't watched Alex Cooper's Hulu documentary, Jack and I whipped up some spark notes for you. Alex Cooper, a college soccer player, became podcaster, outgrew both her co-host and Barstool Sports. But as we always say, the key is the IP, ain't it, Jack? She dramatically won the rights to her show, call her daddy.

18:00And then she rose to number one podcast in the world that isn't hosted by a dude named Joe. Which is why we call her the modern Howard Stern Ryan Seacrest love baby, raised by Katie Couric. She's more than just a podcast. More than just a talk show host, she is a conglomerate. And that conglomerate is her Unwell podcast network. And one of the first free agents she signed to that network was influencer Alex Earl in 2023. But Alex Earl's show, Hot Mess, is not part of the Unwell network anymore. And neither Alex nor Alex explained the breakup. Interesting. So besties, that's the background, but now let's get to the news.

18:35The private breakup between Alex and Alex is now a public beef. Now it's petty, it's melodramatic, it's gossip. But everybody's watching it. The battle is being fought in the comment section, baby. And the first strike was Alex Earl not attending Unwell's Super Bowl party, even though she was in New Orleans. The second strike was Alex Earl liking comments that were throwing shade at Alex Cooper. And the third and biggest strike was a repost by Alex Earl two days ago on a TikTok video that was very critical of Alex Cooper. Basically, someone called Alex Cooper an ambulance chaser for interviewing people during their most vulnerable moments.

19:10So Alex Cooper, the founding father, finally addressed the beef head on with her own selfie video. She was like, you got something to say, say it to my face. That's basically what she said. And then Alex Earl replied, I'm on it. Now this whole thing's blown up like a Real Housewives of Podcasting episode. The latest is the host of BFF's podcast said that Alex Cooper is a very, very mean person who just cares about money. You know, saying Alex Cooper only cares about money, I just don't know if you're going to say that about a dude, right? Like that's just not the kind of thing people criticize guys for.

19:39Every CEO just cares about money. Yeah, and it kind of sounds like half the S &P 500 right there, Jack. But back to Alex vs. Alex. Both built their careers on radical oversharing, but have conspicuously not shared yet what the actual beef is between them. So that's the news, Yetis, but here's the business analysis. Two blonde women with podcasts, similar names, but two very different business models. Alex Cooper has a media network and a 100-person advertising company. She just produced a TV ad for Google. Alex Earl, she hosts a podcast, she launched a skincare brand, and she owns a piece of three different drink companies, including Poppy.

20:18So Jack, analyzing the businesses of the two Alex's, what's the takeaway for our buddies over in the Alex drama? In business, there are players, there are coaches, and there are player coaches. Now Yetis, back when Jack and I were at Robinhood, we noticed there were two different career tracks. You could be an individual contributor, or you could be a manager. We assumed that manager was the more prestigious choice. Yeah, we did. But we were wrong because the individual contributor is the product. The manager oversees the individual contributors, but they don't actually build the product themselves.

20:48Think about it this way. Tom Brady is an individual contributor. Bill Belichick is a manager. And to connect that to our story, Alex Earl, she's an individual contributor. She plays in the games herself. Alex Earl is the product. Alex Cooper also is an individual contributor. She hosts her flagship podcast, but she also is a coach. Alex Cooper is the manager too. Yeah, because Unwell has a drink, it has a YouTube series, it has a Netflix show, and it has a marketing agency. What we're saying is that Alex Cooper is a player coach. She is both player and coach, like Bill Russell, who coached the Celtics while playing for them.

21:24In most businesses, you're either the talent or the executive. The genius of Alex Cooper is that she's both. And that's what puts her name in the same conversation as legendary basketball player coach, Bill Russell. We're still waiting for Alex or Alex to actually say the thing that one of them is so mad about. In the meantime, they show us that in business, there are players, there are coaches, and there are player coaches. Jack, could you whip up the takeaways for us for that new Friday? Allbirds announced they're pivoting from shoes to GPUs. Their new name is Newbird AI Company. Yeah, it is, as we learned from the Long Island blockchain company.

22:00That sounds like a costume, not a pivot. For our second story, it's the bad news bull market. The S &P 500 and the Nasdaq hit record highs Wednesday, despite all the terrible headlines. Because the stock market has a force of gravity, but a gravity that goes up. And finally, it's Alex versus Alex. The beef between the two influencers remains unfinished. Alex Earl is a player. Alex Cooper is a player coach. And let us know in the comments what elements of this beef we failed to mention. But besties, this pod's not over yet. Here's what else you need to know today. First, breaking news during our recording.

22:33Live Nation stock fell 6 % because a judge ruled it and Ticketmaster are an illegal monopoly. Record scratch because last month the Trump administration settled with Ticketmaster. But several states refused to settle. So the case went on and Ticketmaster lost. Next, a judge has to decide how to remedy this illegal monopoly situation. Maybe by splitting up Ticketmaster from Live Nation. And second, Tesla just gamified self-driving and it was inspired by Duolingo. Tesla will now let you track your self-driving streaks to incentivize you to do more autopilot. Or sorry, full FSD supervised. Just like how Duolingo tracks how many days in a row you have been learning your Spanish lessons.

23:15Important context, for Elon to earn his record$1 trillion bonus, Tesla must hit 10 million self-driving subscriptions by 2035. So they're gamifying it. And finally, Starbucks just hooked up with ChatGPT. We call the new feature FrapGPT. Within Opening Eyes Chatbot, you can now order Starbucks from the closest location. Okay, but the key is that you can tell the ChatGPT your vibe, and then it suggests your coffee order, and then it orders it for you. I think the only vibe I'm going to tell it is, I need to wake up. Now, time for the best fact yet. This one sent in by Thomas over in lovely Connecticut.

23:50New York City real estate developers are obsessed with the number 99. That's right. Interestingly, the number of new buildings with 99 or fewer units is up 5x in just the last year. The reason? There's a new law that gives a tax exemption to real estate developers who include affordable housing. And have fewer than 100 units. The result? Developers are designing buildings with the maximum number of units while still getting the tax break. And so 99 is the new magic number in real estate. So you probably have a buddy living in an apartment with 99 units. Yetis, you are looking fantastic today. Jack, you are glowing over there in the studio.

24:27And Yetis, we want you to share this episode with your buddy who needs this fantastic mix of stories to start the day. H-Y-H-T-B-O-Y. If they've wanted a pair of Allbirds, send them the story. If they're wondering what to do with their portfolio, send them the pod. If they don't know which Alexide to be on, we think you know what to do. H-Y-H-T-B-O-Y. If you know, you know.

24:51And before we go, happy birthday to Daniel Baker in North Carolina, celebrating 35 by being unbothered at the spa. Happy birthday to Luke Yaidi in Temacula, California. And Jacob Tritt, happy eighth birthday down in Scottsdale, Arizona. Happy birthday to Stephen Kelly, the dinkwad ass of St. Louis. Double income, no kids, with a dog and some succulents. And kawookwad, we see your 37th just outside San Francisco. Happy birthday to Mary McCall in San Francisco. The legendary Yeti and Bo Diekman. Happy birthday in Boonville, Indiana on the way to that lacrosse game. Will and Duke, we see you in the backseat.

25:28Keep being great brothers. And a shout out to Chris, Jeff, and the entire Slate team on the epic fundraise for the coolest car out there, the Slate electric vehicle. Simple and customized, Slate has$650 million of fresh cash. Congratulations, guys. And Jordan Workall just launched a podcast, The Not-So-Little Rascals, because he played Froggy in the movie, and no one can comment on that movie better than Jordan. Congratulations to the Brown University men's club volleyball team, who just won their first national title. Om Patel got the MVP, and Wes Hackett, an all-star. Congratulations, Bears.

26:02Go Bears. And to anyone else celebrating something today, make it a T-boy. Celebrate the wins.

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