A Woman's Blueprint To Thyroid Health: Why You're Still Tired, Gaining Weight & Why So Many Women Are Being Misdiagnosed Ft. McCall McPherson

23:24Lauryn Bosstick:And like, this is just what you committed to and like be disciplined about it and don't complain. So I think that's my inner narrative. And if I am, as you said, functioning on crude oil, I think what has helped push through is that inner narrative. But I don't know that that works forever. I think that eventually leads to burnout. But if the audience thinks that I'm like, I want to be very honest, this like super, super woman, I have brain fog all the time. if michael tries to talk to me before 10 o 'clock like i'm a zombie i i have to like i have to actually the thing that helps me most and i'm curious what you think is cold plunging it feels like it and i know that a lot of women hate that and i've gotten so much pushback for that but for me what it does is if my windshield wipers are like fogged it clears them for me and i don't know if it's the shock of the cold, but it's kind of almost ridiculous.

24:24Lauryn Bosstick:And now that I'm even saying it, that I have to shock my body into getting it in gear. And it's funny, even if I have two cups of coffee, you would think it like would make it better than one. Even sometimes after two cups of coffee, I still have brain fog. So I'm listening to what you're saying and I feel like I'm a candidate and I feel like my labs are gonna say what you said yeah no I can almost guarantee and what I think is so interesting about that is a couple things number one I think what you said in the beginning echoes the story of so many women I'm tired because I'm pregnant I'm foggy because I'm postpartum oh now my kids are in elementary school now I'm going through teenagers now they're in college I've had so many women show up to my office that look at me and say all my children are in college.

25:14I'm an empty nester. I still feel like this and I have no excuse. And they've missed out on the most joyous years. Some of them of our lives, they're surviving. Like there's a hierarchy for women. And yes, we can push through. We can show up, especially when you're really driven. Joy, creativity, like the freedom to just hang out with your kids and actually connect, those are later on the hierarchy, right? So when we're busy trying to survive, we miss out on all of that. And the story for so many women that their whole motherhood experience of that, their whole thirties, forties, which is, I think the most magical times of our lives, infuriates me.

25:59Like it's so frustrating. Women do not need to live like that.

26:02Lauryn Bosstick:And I get it. Listen, if anyone's tired and you know, this is also even on days, I want to like, be honest about this on like a Sunday when I don't have anything, I still feel that tiredness. Yeah. And I sleep. I mean, people are like hot, like I sleep. I'm, I like want to be in bed at seven 30 like that. I know if I could pick, I'm in bed at like seven 45 latest. and I sleep till about seven. I sleep. I read for about an hour. I go to bed. Probably my lights are off at like eight forty five, nine. So it's not like I'm not sleeping and then I'm tired. I'm sleeping, but I'm still like I still have that brain fog during the day.

26:44Lauryn Bosstick:So you think that has to do with my thyroid? I really was like, oh, Lauren, like your postpartum. Oh, God, no, I could get rid of your brain fog in like two weeks, I'm sure. So did you guys hear that? Maybe less. I'm going to be unstoppable, Carson. I know. Be afraid. If you get rid of my brain fog, oh, I thought that was just a part of being a mom. No, no. I can totally get rid of your brain fog. So I think it's part thyroid and part of it is adrenals. So your thyroid and your adrenals are connected. That makes sense. Right? When your thyroid is not functioning, your adrenals are compensating.

27:16So they're picking up the extra work. And like anything that's being overworked, they too get tired eventually and they need more and more demand to respond. Which is why the cold punch works. Exactly. So one cup of coffee used to work. Then two cups of coffee has to work. Now that doesn't even work anymore. Now you have to stimulate your body and get into a complete fight or flight situation for your brain to come online, which is not healthy. That's not what we want you to do.

27:43Lauryn Bosstick:Which is why when I'm like in New York City, I almost feel so clear there when it comes to work because it's kind of a fight or flight city, right? There's all these noises. There's sounds. It's like right in your face. It's back to back, I have that fight or flight. You know what's interesting? The best thing that I've ever done for myself is cranial sacral. And I've been talking about it like no tomorrow. And that works on the fight or flight. So everything you're saying is like really making sense to me of what maybe I'm so attracted to that because the fight or flight is fatigued from the adrenals.

28:18Oh, absolutely. And, you know, for someone like you who has a high demand job, you have a family, right? It's not like you go home every evening and just recover all night.

28:28Lauryn Bosstick:No, that's not what we do. That's not what we get to do. Hanging by a thread. Hanging by a thread. And then, you know, the thread gets thinner and your body gets more and more taxed until it can't keep up with that demand anymore. And you have like a total. And then when my husband wants to have a full monologue at seven o 'clock in the morning, I'm like, I got to get I got to get the water, the electrolytes. I got a cold plunge. I got to have a coffee. And like then maybe. So it's so interesting because people in our space, they want natural solutions. They want to come off of medication. They don't want to go on thyroid medication.

29:03Have me back, sister. Let me fix your thyroid before you try to go off of thyroid meds. See what life actually is supposed to look like. OK. Before you make the decision to taper off with whoever you decide to do that with, myself or someone else. But I can promise you when I fix your thyroid, you will not want to not have it because it is essential for your body to function and you're going to feel what it's supposed to feel like to be a woman.

29:28Lauryn Bosstick:You can come back. Well, should we say six months? Oh, yeah. Six months. I swear to God, I think I'm really a big believer in everything's happening for you. And I believe that you were put in front of me in some way to meet. And there's a frequency that I was attracted to with you. And I swear I even kicked Michael off because I find this topic so fascinating. And I hear from so many women about their thyroid. They'll DM me like asking me questions about it. And I'm not an expert in it. And I don't want to give medical advice. That's why I go to experts like you. And this is subject that in a thousand episodes we've never talked about.

30:07Yeah. It's so, and I hope, I hope that we're about to be in our thyroid era because what we're living in right now in terms of thyroid is what women have been living in with hormones. We're exiting that now. We're leaving the era of the women's health initiative where hormone replacement therapy was like the dark ages for us, but we're in the dark ages of thyroid right now. And it's a conversation that really needs to be brought to the surface because it impacts, like you said, pretty much every woman we know.

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36:25We become insulin resistant, leptin resistant, metabolically dysfunctional. And that doesn't unravel immediately just when I fix your thyroid hormones because you have to unwind those years, decades of that dysfunction. So I used GLPs initially for weight loss. And what I found was it's great. People start it for weight loss. They continue it for entirely different reasons. And I think this is the biggest thing that will happen in my lifetime in medicine, these medications. And it has nothing to do with weight loss. So do I think they lower inflammation? About a thousand times better than anything else I've ever seen.

37:01Wow. Yeah. And which one do you like out of all of them? Good question. So they all have inflammatory impacts that are similar to one another. I've seen inflammatory reductions in a massive way after one microdose injection. literally in black and white on labs, not even, hey, they look less inflamed. They feel, no, this is like lab data. Yeah. So it's immediate. Really, it happens within like 48 to 72 hours. But as far as inflammation goes, they're equal. Now, if I took someone that wanted to lose weight, that also had inflammation, that had Hashimoto's, that had thyroid problems, if it were up to me, the vast majority of people, I would not start on terzepatide.

37:42I would start on semaglutide because the biggest risk for these people is their appetite gets overly suppressed. They don't eat. They don't consume enough micronutrients. They don't consume enough protein. And trisopatide tends to bomb out people's appetite when you start it initially almost too much. And I'm so protective of that. That's part of the reason I advocate for microdosing. So if I had to pick, I would say to start, I do most people on semaglutide.

38:11Lauryn Bosstick:okay so i know so many people who are on glp ones and i have one girl i know who's on 10 units i think it's 10 units is it 10 units or milligrams it depends so most people on compounds compounds it's tricky they're all concentrated differently okay so 10 units of one even the same i think it's trisepatide 10 what does that mean and i mean it doesn't mean a whole lot because it could be Isn't that high, though? She said that it caps at 12. Okay, so hers caps at 12. Okay. So then, obviously, she's very high. She's high. So I have one person I know who's really high, and then I have another friend I know who's on a microdose, and then I have another friend I know that's on a mid-dose.

38:52Lauryn Bosstick:Yeah. How do you know what to be on? How do you even gauge that? Call me biased. Lauren, call me biased. But I think we have used diabetic dosing and we've applied it to non-diabetics for weight loss. And what's a diabetic dosing over what? So these meds used to be diabetes meds. We've repurposed them for weight loss. Right. But like what's on the spectrum? What is, is it, is it a diabetic on a mid or, oh, it's on, okay. Like I think people should not be on diabetic doses of medication to lose weight. So you're a micro dose fan? I am. I started standard dose and I'll tell you people had side effects.

39:31I wrote Zofran prescriptions, anti-nausea prescriptions every day and people weren't eating enough food. They were under fueling their bodies and they were losing muscle mass, et cetera. I started doing microdosing with our patients before it was a term that was used and I haven't written a Zofran prescription in, I don't know, two years. People do not lose muscle. I mean, it's a completely different ballgame.

39:51Lauryn Bosstick:And what is a microdose? This is where I'm confused. I don't understand is my, I told you, three different friends, which is the five milligram, I think it's milligram or unit microdose. Yeah. So let's say, you know, the starting dose of semaglutide, 2.5 milligrams. Okay. That's like what people get initially put on. And then they double every month initially. So they get on five at first. Yes. They get 2.5, five, you know, and it just keeps increasing, increasing on a scheduled basis. We start people on a quarter to a tenth of the lowest dose of medication. So you're talking about like microdose.

40:33Absolutely. Okay.

40:34Lauryn Bosstick:So none of my, then my friends aren't on microdose. Right. The lowest available dose is not a microdose. Okay. Yep. That makes sense. And a lot of our patients never even reach the lowest available dose. And are they on it for the rest of their life? Good question. About 80 to 85 % of our patients come off. There is particular things that we're looking for in our lab data that show us, I don't share them. They're the only thing I hold private. There's particular lab markers that we look for in certain ranges that show us these people have restored their metabolism. They've reversed metabolic dysfunction and the likelihood they can come off successfully is really high.

41:11Now, the flip side of that is people, so I'm an inflamed person. I'm constantly managing. You don't look like an inflamed person to me. Go look at her on Spotify.

41:19Lauryn Bosstick:This is not looking like an inflamed person. I love you guys. That's not what I would call you. I'm so excited to be here. And I didn't want to be here inflamed. You do not look inflamed. Well, thanks. At all. But I have to work at it. I really do. And so my genetics, you know, they lend me to be inflamed. So I actively have to work on it. There's a lot of people that are the same outside of lifestyle. Some people are genetically prone to it. Those people often don't come off. They're going to get inflammation returned. So do you like it for yourself? And you do. And so do you feel like you're going to be on it for the rest of your life because you're an inflamed person?

41:55Lauryn Bosstick:Good question. So I've just been able to restart it in the last month after taking a few years off, and I will probably be on it for the rest of my life. But I'll tell you this. On a GLP, your chance of dying for any reason whatsoever is about 13 to 25 % less. Okay, your chance of dying of a heart attack or a cardiovascular event is about 13 to 39 % less. Cardiovascular disease kills one and a half times more people every year than all forms of cancer combined. It's the thing we should be focusing on. GLPs are a magic bullet for cardiovascular disease. I lost my brother in November at 48. He was perfectly healthy of a heart attack and we are genetically almost identical.

42:42So I will be on a GLP for the rest of my life.

42:45Lauryn Bosstick:I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. That's amazing that you're able to take preventative care of yourself based on that though. Yeah, absolutely. That's crazy that you can almost look at someone and know if they're going to be on it for the rest of their life or if it's just something they can use as a tool. Yeah. let's talk about hyperthyroidism oh okay different area like it what's what's that look like if someone is experiencing symptoms or they are being treated for hypothyroidism what is the difference between the hyper and the hyper and the hypo hypo hypo and the hyroid hyper yeah i got you i got you So hyper is a beast, but I love that you brought this up because these people are never brought into the conversation and they always feel kind of left out in the cold.

43:39So hyperthyroidism is overactive thyroid. So you're secreting too much thyroid hormones. Okay. So instead of feeling like tired, gaining weight, sluggish, you feel jittery, shaky, anxious, agitated. You can't sleep. You're losing weight. You're losing hair. You can't exercise at all before your heart rate hits like 200. So a very different experience. It's most commonly due to Graves. Graves is an autoimmune disease that attacks your thyroid. Instead of making it tired and slow, it speeds it up. Okay. There aren't, I don't know another practice in the country that treats hyperthyroidism like we do.

44:16So there's a few things that I want these people to know.

44:19Lauryn Bosstick:Okay. Number one, if you can reduce the autoimmune disease level, if you can reduce your antibodies, you reduce your overproduction of thyroid hormones. And that can happen. Medicine doesn't realize that that's possible. It can happen quite quickly in most people. And Graves people are on what I call a roller coaster. They are strapped in. Sometimes they have crazy high thyroid function. Sometimes it's really low and it's unpredictable. It's up and down. So the goal in medicine is to make these people go from high to low because high is dangerous. No one cares if you're hypothyroid. So they'll just make everyone hypothyroid with medication or by taking out their thyroid gland.

45:01okay and they rush to do that and that's a very serious thing and i always tell people really get like three opinions before you get your thyroid taken out because there's no going back but the goal with these people is to reduce their antibodies reducing the severity of their graves which is possible just like in hashimoto's number two is we use enough blocking thyroid medications to make them hypothyroid, but hypothyroid life kind of sucks. So then we replace those hormones with actual thyroid medication. So these people are no longer condemned to living a life like full of anxiety, jittery, palpitations.

45:39They're not condemned to living a life feeling miserable and exhausted. They're in between and they get to actually enjoy their life and thrive. It's called block and replace therapy. It's a big one. That's like a whole hour long conversation.

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52:00Yes. So obviously the full thyroid panel. You can find our optimal ranges. I share them. You can find them at gift.modernthyroidclinic.com. I can also say them out loud if you want. And then number three for hypothyroidism is consider going on a T3-based med. in addition to Levo, instead of Levo, whatever it is, it's unique per person. For Hashimoto's, the autoimmune disease associated with hypothyroidism that can be reversed with lifestyle, okay, you can put that into remission. I'm in remission. Minimally, you can reduce your antibodies. I would say if I had to pick, number one, take selenium, 200 micrograms every day.

52:40Research shows that reduces antibodies. Number two, use glutathione, our body's most potent antioxidant, anti-inflammatory. You can do it orally. Sometimes I even have people put glutathione on their thyroid gland transdermally. It works great. Number three is red light therapy, about six inches from your thyroid. It has been shown to reduce antibodies and even improve conversion. So improve the activation of those hormones, 10 minutes, twice a day in a perfect world. Change your diet. So I like to test people's inflammatory food responses, but number one is dairy. So the number one most common food group that I see causing these people's inflammations, dairy number two is gluten.

53:27So pick one of those, check your antibodies on day zero, go gluten-free check them on day 90 and see if they've reduced how do you check your antibodies

53:37Lauryn Bosstick:you do a blood test can't we think of something else other than the blood test if you can you like please can we do a saliva test what is with these blood tests everyone wants to do a blood test all the time i know we have to find a way someone needs to invent something i thought elizabeth holmes was on it i know i mean oh bummer about that come on can we do saliva Ava, I would rather shit in a box and send it off than do a blood test. So here's the thing. Thyroid's nuanced, my friend. Guessing is throwing darts at a dartboard blindfolded, hoping to hit a bullseye. You don't want me to guess. Why do we have to do like 12 vials of blood?

54:18Oh, I don't need 12. How many do you need? Just for thyroid? Yes. Maybe two at most. okay i hope i'm i'm praying to the universe that the blood test that i did already has your whole

54:32Lauryn Bosstick:20 lists of things you need i know boo me too i'm praying to the universe if someone wants to work with you specifically i'm sure you're booked and busy what do they do yeah so we are nationwide at this point virtual practice we started here in austin and ended up like a 9 000 person wait list so now here we are we're in 48 states we have clinicians that this is their life's work in the same way that it's my life's work and all of them also have a thyroid condition themselves so they know exactly what it's like to sit because the whole world has one right true right um so you can find us at modernthyroidclinic.com okay um we want to change the landscape of thyroid for good what if someone wants to work with you that's the question we're going to be asked like me.

55:19Yeah. Well, I will work with you. Oh, yes, I will do that. There are like it's on a case by case basis. I really haven't taken new patients for the last few years, but I have somehow circulated the Hollywood scene and I get this question a lot. So I will I will figure out a way to have people work with me and set up a system again that I've previously shut down, but I'll make it happen. You need like an avatar that's like a program or something that people can chat to BT. Right. I do have one of those. You can actually go on our website and you can talk to me endlessly. And I've checked it. It's pretty, pretty damn accurate.

55:56The closest thing we have for people working with me is we have a VIP elite program. That's like very, very intensive. I oversee every case. We have a retreat together once a year. It's pretty magical. That is probably the closest thing as of right now to working with me. But my clinicians are amazing. They're incredible. I'm sure they're amazing if they were trained by you.

56:17Lauryn Bosstick:I'm manifesting that you come back on the show like towards the end of December and I don't have brain fog and I can talk to Michael at eight o 'clock because we're not going eight o 'clock instead of 10. Yeah. No, the fact that you are out of commission from 7 p.m. to 10 a.m. is wild. No, 7 a.m. Right. But you don't you can't like you can't do anything really till 10 till you do everything else till 10 a.m. I'm out of commission mentally, I feel like. Like, I could not do a podcast. I mean, I could do a podcast, but it would be pulling teeth from 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. All right, Lauren. So I got a book coming out in February.

56:53Lauryn Bosstick:Yes. I'm going to change your life and you'll have me back on and we'll do it. And we'll talk about your book. Deal. That's literally, I mean, it couldn't have worked out better. I swear. Yeah. Everything's happening for you. That's like six months from now. Six months is a long time, right? Yeah. We're golden. So I'm not going to make the excuse that I'm postpartum. No, we're a year out from that. No, sister, come to me. Let me help you. Because what I've thought, and we mentioned this earlier, but I've had three kids, so I'm kind of just always postpartum. You know what I mean? Yeah, no. I have women tell me consistently they feel better postpartum two months out than they did before they ever had kids.

57:31Okay. This is very interesting.

57:32Lauryn Bosstick:I'm very into this conversation. Thank you so much for coming on. What's your Instagram handle for everyone to say hi? At McCall McPherson, PA. Thank you, McCall.