Ben Azadi On How To Reset Your Metabolism, Eliminate Cravings, & Lose Fat For Good

13:55And long-term, these individuals, they gain the weight back and now they're more frustrated. So I'm not a fan of it to be abused. I'm a fan of the lifestyle changes. Now, if somebody does it, they get enough protein, they're lifting weights to preserving muscle. There's a right way to do that. But most people don't do it that way.

14:10Lauryn Bosstick:You lost 80 pounds. I did. Tell me something that people would not know about losing 80 pounds. Maybe it's something, a mindset shift that you had to make. Maybe when you lost the weight, maybe you felt you were still overweight. I've heard that a lot. I feel people like have an identity crisis. What's something that no one knows about losing that much weight? I talk about that, right? What you said right there in my previous book, metabolic freedom, my self-image. So I lost 80 pounds in nine months. I was obese for most of my life. My mom worked at Kentucky Fried Chicken when I was a kid and she brought me Kentucky Fried Chicken.

14:47And for 23, 24 years, I was obese. And in 2007, I went through this transformation. I lost 80 pounds in nine months. I went from 34 % body fat at my highest to 6 % at my lowest. So dramatic shift. And I achieved this physical six pack. And I always dreamed of that as a kid. but the most important benefit was not the physical six-pack it was the the mental six-pack is what it did for my i used to have suicidal thoughts i would look go on the internet look for ways to end my life and what stopped me was thinking about my mother i didn't want to cause that devastation to her so that was the only thread that i was hanging on and after the transformation the physical transformation what it did for my mental health was tremendous but you know to your point lauren i lost the weight i'm looking in the mirror i'm seeing my abs and i'm still seeing this obese Ben.

15:35My self-image identified as obese Ben. So I kept finding ways to sabotage myself to gain the weight back to match that self-image I had of myself. I literally had to write on a card, I'm so happy and grateful now I'm at my perfect body weight. The perfect health I seek is now seeking me. I remove any blockages between us. I had to reprogram my subconscious mind to identify with a new image of myself, which is healthy lean Ben, because the old image kept trying to sabotage me to go back. And that happens to so many people when they lose weight. their image sabotages them to go back. So they find themselves eating Cheetos, eating a whole bunch of fast food to gain the weight back to match that self-image that they never changed at a subconscious level.

16:13Michael Bosstick:I have two questions that are, I know you brought us some books on the way in and it seems like you're a reader and self-learner. First, what was the thing or the spark that got you to get motivated to lose the weight in the first place? And then second, what kind of content or books were you consuming while you were doing this? And how did you know to even write those notes to yourself? The spark was going through a breakup with my ex-girlfriend. She broke up with me. And the reason I believe she broke up with me is because I was just overweight and unhealthy. That probably wasn't the reason, but that was what I told myself.

16:44So I wanted to show her. I'm going to show her what she lost. I'm going to get these six-pack abs. I'm going to win her back. So it was very vanity, motivation-based, which was fine because it got me started. But I believe it's not about the motivation. It's about the inspiration to find that from within. And then I just started to fall in love with training. I started to fall in love with nutrition and I started seeing these changes. And then, you know, I didn't have cheap beauty back then. I didn't have YouTube and I didn't have these like your amazing podcast to listen to. So for me, it was like men's health magazine, bodybuilding.com and just trying to figure things out on my own.

17:18But I really just did some simple changes. I just ate, started to eat real food, like single ingredient, whole foods. I started moving my body. I was very young at that time, 24 years old. And when I was doing that before the transformation at 24 years old, erectile dysfunction, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, 80 pounds overweight, explaining this to my doctor during my appointment. Never once did he ask me, what are you eating? Let's talk about your lifestyle. Not once did he ask me that.

17:42Michael Bosstick:It's so crazy because, I mean, we've done, we've talked to so many people and, you know, and you get so many messages. There's so many people looking for like the thing, the quick fix. But when you hear real stories like, I started eating right, started taking care of myself, started exercising, started crowding my mind with the right stuff. It's like the answers are always there right in front of us. And the answers are simple. The implementation is really hard and the discipline is hard. That's right. That's right. And, you know, that's the difference between motivation and inspiration. We got to be inspired to make lasting changes, not just motivation is external.

18:15You need something external. Like I wanted to show this ex-girlfriend what she lost out on. And then I started to fall in love with myself. I started listening and reading Dr. Wayne Dyer's work. Have you heard Dr. Wayne Dyer?

18:25Michael Bosstick:She's a big fan. She's a big fan.

18:26Lauryn Bosstick:Every morning. Me too. Every morning. Still? Every morning. Me too, Warren. I don't wake up without Wayne. This morning too. Wayne is in my bed before my husband. Oh boy. I'm sure you're okay with that. He's in there with us. Wayne, I listen to him like, I always get this word wrong. What's a cernum?

18:42Michael Bosstick:Sermon?

18:43Lauryn Bosstick:Sermon. Sermon. Sermon.

18:45Michael Bosstick:Got it.

18:46Lauryn Bosstick:I listen to like a sermon.

18:47Michael Bosstick:A couple of vowels off. You almost could have gone a different direction. Not a semen, a sermon.

18:53Lauryn Bosstick:Every single morning I listen like it's like it's so spiritual to wake up to his voice and his words. His voice is just so like angelic, right? Yes. So I have a book from Dr. Wayne Dyer called 365 Days of Meditations. So every day of the year there's a passage from him and then I just reflect on that. So every morning I read that. Like this morning I read it back in Miami. But during the transformation I would read his work and he used the word responsibility back then. He's like, you got to take responsibility for your health, for your life. And I'm like, okay, that's obvious. But what exactly does that mean?

19:25I hear it all the time, responsibility, take responsibility. And then he explained it in a way that I never really understood. He said, responsibility is your ability to respond to life. That is your responsibility. And if you're the victim, if you're blaming other people, like I was blaming my slow metabolism and my enabling mom and my bad genetics, I'm going to get poor results. But when I took ownership and said this, I am responsible, everything changed for me. And that is the starting point to great change. When you actually declare those words, I am responsible, which I did back then. And it changed my life.

19:55Lauryn Bosstick:Ed Milet, he talks about the temperature and how when you lose weight like you did, you want to cool your identity back to what's comfortable. Exactly right. Is that how you felt? And what was the aha moment that got you out of that? That's exactly what happens. It's like a thermostat. The thermostat. Yeah, exactly. And it's kind of like, so there's a book called Psycho-Cybernetics. Have you heard of it? I have not. Maxwell Maltz from the 1960s. And in this book, the author, he was a plastic surgeon. He was a world-renowned plastic surgeon. And this is relevant to your question, by the way. And he noticed that, so he would perform surgeries on individuals who had these wicked facial disformities.

20:37who were unhappy, they were depressed, they were very self-conscious, they identified with that deformity. So he would perform surgery and he would remove the deformity and they would look perfect, like they were restored. But he noticed about half of his patients still were self-conscious, depressed, and unhappy. They would literally look in the mirror and see the deformity, even though it was removed, because they identified, their self-image identified with that deformity. And it wasn't until he changed that self-image that they changed their happiness levels and their health and everything else.

21:09It's the same thing with our weight. What happens is when we start to lose weight, by the way, we don't want to lose weight. We want to release the weight. When we lose things, we try to find those things, right? So we want to release the weight. So that's an important caveat in the language. But when we release the weight and you're still identifying as the overweight person, like I was, you will find a way, the thermostat, to course correct and get the weight back because you haven't changed the subconscious in terms of your self-image. So for me, I started learning about this through Wayne Dyer and Bob Proctor.

21:40So I wrote down the new self-image. I wrote it on the card and I wrote those words. I'm so happy and grateful. And then I wrote the new self-image of myself and I kept reading it every single day, every single day to replace the old self-image because there's only two ways to change that, Lauren and Michael. There's only two ways to change that paradigm. An emotional impact is number one, which is like a death scare or you lose somebody you love. It changes the way you think it changes your paradigm. That's unpredictable and usually negative. The second way, which is the way I prefer, is the constant spaced repetition of that new idea.

22:12You write the new self-image and you read it every day and every night enough times, 30 to 60 days until it replaces the old image. And that's what I did.

22:19Lauryn Bosstick:So say you want to become the best businessman on the planet. I'm just using this as an example. To identify with that new person, you would write it down on the card and you would constantly look at it every single day. So you're almost brainwashing yourself. Yes. You write it down in the present tense. I mean, I have a card right here that I carry with me. It's called a goal card and I have the biggest goal I want to accomplish. And I have it written down in the present tense and I, and I read it and I feel like I'm already there. And I can tell you, it sounds woo-woo to some people, but I'll give you a story.

22:47Not to you. Not to me. I know you're into this, but let me show you.

22:50Lauryn Bosstick:I would tattoo it on my ass if I could. So, so last year, so this book, Metabolic Freedom that came out last year, six months before it came out, I wrote on a card. I'm so happy and grateful now that my published book with Hay House, Metabolic Freedom is a New York Times bestseller. Now, I've never done that before. It's very difficult to make the New York Times list. Millions of books, only 10 books a week make it in that category. I've never done it. It's like so rare, but I wrote it down and I became that person before the book came out. I'll tell you what I mean by that. I was being interviewed for a documentary a month before the book came out and they said, Ben, introduce yourself.

23:23And I said, my name is Ben Azadi. I'm the New York Times bestselling author of Metabolic freedom a month before the book came out. Like if I didn't hit that list, I'd have to reach out to them and say, you got to remove that part. I recorded videos celebrating hitting the list, paid my editor to edit them, got it scheduled into the queue on social media for when the list came out. So I acted as if, and then the list came out and we hit the list. We hit the New York Times list. This happens with New York Times. This happened with my dream house that I just got. It happens over and over and over, but you have to write it in the present tense, carry it with you.

23:53I have my current goal card here. Read it every single day. And it's just a matter of time before it becomes a reality.

23:58Lauryn Bosstick:And you're published with Hay House. Yes. Louise Hay. And Dr. Wayne Dyer. And by the way, she says too, when you say I'm losing weight, exactly to what you said, you need to say you're releasing.

24:10Michael Bosstick:To your point, for me personally, my entire life, there's people that I look to that I admire and that I look to as kind of like roadmaps. And the people in history are just people that are currently living. And my attitude is if that's where I'm going, then why not just behave like that now? And I know it sounds strange and sometimes it can be perceived as arrogant, but my, I think what a lot of people do is they, they're like, well, I need to wait to behave that way, or I need to get the credentials or I need to like get the permission. And my whole thing is like, if they're there and I'm going to be there, I might as well just start acting like they act right now as the, as the same way they do.

24:49Michael Bosstick:Does that make sense? A hundred percent makes sense. And it may kind of like at sometimes look a little off-putting to someone that's like, wow, you don't have the experience. You don't have the credentials or why are you doing it? I mean, we got even this show, like we've talked on it for a long time now. So I think we have the credentials to do the show. But in the beginning, like, how can you do this? How can you speak on that? And my whole thought is like, well, if I'm going to eventually be this thing or get to that level of be that person, then I might as well just be that now. Exactly right.

25:12Michael Bosstick:And eventually what happens is that just becomes your identity. And you're kind of like, of course, that's how it is. That's who I am. That's it. Right. You're literally being an actor. Yeah, of course. It's different than faking it till you make it. This is not what we're talking about here. You're literally acting as if. Because the acting makes you take the action to behave as the person who would do those kind of things. And then everybody sees you as that as well. They see you from that lens. Now, it's very difficult to do, especially when people are familiar with who you were. They'll laugh at you.

25:39Talk about that. They laughed at me. I've been laughed at before all the time. It's like it sucks sometimes and it's going to happen, but they don't see your vision. They don't understand what's happening and they don't have the faith. The bottom line is like, faith and fear are both two things that you cannot see, but you're choosing what you're putting your energy into. Why not choose the positive route? And that word faith is so important to me. You know, Bob Proctor explained faith, like the greatest definition to faith. He said, faith is the ability to see the invisible, to believe in the incredible, which will permit you to achieve what most people think is impossible.

26:12That's what faith is, right? Most people don't think that way. So you have to be so bold. You have to be so strong. And if they're not on board, I had to cut a lot of people out of my life or spend less time with them.

26:22Michael Bosstick:No, sure. I mean, it's funny because everyone has different people in their lives. So we have some friends, like I'll use them to dating, that you like on the surface, you look at these people, not because they're aesthetics, just the way they behave. Like, oh, they would never get this kind of girl, this kind of person. But because they are the personification of they believe, like, of course, that girl wants me. Like, of course, like I'm going to get like, of course, I'm going to walk. Like, for some reason, it works out for them. And then you have the other, it's like you look at that person like, oh, that person's the person that's going to get everybody, but they don't believe they deserve it.

26:50Michael Bosstick:And then they never get it. And it's just, it's this weird dichotomy where you look at this and it's really like, it's a behavioral thing. It's how people perceive themselves. And sometimes it's like, hey man, you're delusional, but the delusion works in their favor. Like I've seen some of my friends that I'm like, there is absolutely no chance you're going to end up with that girl. And they just walk over there and it's an energy thing. It's the person believing that they believe. And I think you see this in different walks of life. You see it in business, you see it in sales, you see it in relationships, you see it in fitness.

27:19Michael Bosstick:A lot of people that achieve huge fitness goals, they have these stories where that person's never going to be the next thing you know. They're like champions. That's right. That's exactly what separates musicians, for example. Somebody who's a world-famous musician, who's not the most talented, but everybody knows them, that musician sees themselves as a rock star. But then you have somebody who's even more talented, who's playing in a hotel lobby, and nobody knows who they are. And they're more talented because they see themselves as a hotel lobby musician. So it's the way you see yourself. I think I saw Tom Brady the other day speaking to somebody, I guess when he was, and I'm going to get this wrong because I'm not a huge football guy, but he was talking about how he called his agent and was like trying to buy some house, even when he was sitting on the bench or maybe not even being able to draft it.

28:05Michael Bosstick:The guy's like, what are you talking about? You don't even have the job yet. And you're like on the bench. And he saw himself as the person he is then, even before he had the role. And then all of a sudden he did it. Right. So I think mindset, and we were talking about this off air, plays a bigger part than even the tactics of doing the thing.

28:24Lauryn Bosstick:By the way, my manifestation is that you come back on the show more. Deal. Yeah. And I still need to share my story with you maybe offline of how I manifested a dream house recently. Well, no, you can still share that with us. You want to share that with us now? Share it. Okay. This is wild because last year I had no intentions of buying a house. Me and my wife were renting and I was good with that. And then I walked around my neighborhood. I live in Miami and it's a beautiful neighborhood. And I see this incredible house and it had a for sale sign. And I saw, okay, that's really interesting. I'm going to go online and see what it looks like on the inside.

28:56And I looked at the photos and I'm like, that's a beautiful home. So I texted my realtor friend. I said, look, I want to go look at this house. I have no intentions of buying it. I really don't want to waste your time or the realtor's time, but I want to just look at it for like future dream building. And then I walk into the house and I told my wife to come with me and I'm walking around and I start seeing like my future children walking around. I start seeing, okay, I could turn this backyard into a basketball court. I love basketball. I could turn this guest house into a studio. So I start dreaming and I leave that appointment and I'm like, I want this house.

29:26Should I pay for this house? That's the question. And then Bob Proctor came into my head and he said, it doesn't matter what the price is. The question is, do you want it? Do you really want it? And then I asked myself, do I really want it? And the answer was yes. So I made an offer. Part of me was like, I hope they don't accept because I'm not sure what I'm getting myself into here, but they accept it. And then I had about 90 days to come up with a million dollars that I didn't have without like liquefying things and finding creative ways, like new income I wanted to bring. I didn't want to use what I currently have.

29:53So I had 90 days to do that. And I came up with most of it until two weeks prior to closing. I was about 180 ,000 short without liquidating things. And I really didn't want to liquidate things. So I'm in Tampa speaking at an event and I'm kind of stressed. I have two weeks to close what am I gonna do buying a house is really stressful it is stressful yeah so I met all the deadlines for the deposits on that but two weeks anyways I let it go I said I'm just gonna let it go I'll figure it out when I go back to Miami and then I go to dinner that night and a friend of mine is at dinner and he comes up to me and he says Ben I heard you're buying a house how's it going uh you know I have a question for you let's talk more about this let's go outside so we go outside and he's telling me how I've changed his life because I met him back in 2022 when he was going through the divorce he was suicidal he was obese and I helped him like health coached him.

30:40He lost a ton of weight. He's now remarried. He's thriving. And he's telling me how thankful he is. And he's telling me he's so successful. He had$44 in his banking account. Now he's worth X, Y, Z. And he's asking me how it's going with the house. I said, I'm about 180K short and I have two weeks to close. And he goes, I'm just going to give it to you. What do you mean? You're going to give me a loan? I'm going to sign a contract? No contract. You want to pay me back? Pay me back. You don't. It's fine. On Monday, when you get back to Miami, me, give me your banking details. I'm going to wire it to you.

31:07And he wired it to me.

31:08Michael Bosstick:Where's your friend? Where's your community's number later? And he wired it to me. Wow. Wow. Like, because I committed to the house and Bob Proctor used to say, cause they, he had a couple that wanted to buy a house. They didn't have the money. And he goes, you don't need any money. And they're like, what do you mean? I don't need any money. We need money to buy the house. He goes, you don't need any money. You haven't made a decision. Why do you need the money? Once you commit and make a decision, then the money comes. And that's exactly what I did. And it came in at the two week mark of the closing.

31:36Lauryn Bosstick:I don't mean to like annoy you, but this is where you say my wife is right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is what I always say.

31:44Michael Bosstick:As it relates to these kinds of things.

31:46Lauryn Bosstick:He'll stress out about stuff and I'll be like, it'll happen. I literally, he wants me to like have emotional residency where I get worked up over something and I don't.

31:56Michael Bosstick:No, my stress lives in the moments of indecision. really like what you're just saying my my when i make a decision i'm not stressed at all at all the indecision it's the when i when i'm gonna do something no matter how intense it is like that's not what worries me like if i'm gonna go do something with the business or buy something that doesn't it's the moments of like when i'm not sure that's my that's where i like i'm just like opening every drawer in my brain and slamming it and not knowing that until i can resolve that it's stressful yeah well there's one more piece to this and then i'm done i promise please i close in the house.

32:28We move in. It's a beautiful house. We love it. Three months later, I get a text from the same friend coming out of my pool. Beautiful Monday afternoon. And he texts me, Ben, it's a long text. Essentially, I'm sorry to do this. Going through a lot of challenges with my businesses. And I need the 150, he gave me actually 150K. I need 150K back like ASAP. I'm like, oh, I just got a 150K bill that I did not expect. And I had every intention of paying him back, by the way, but not so soon. And I didn't react. My old version would have reacted. And I sat there. I'm like, wherever the money is, it's coming to me.

33:03It's coming to me. I'm going to figure it out, kind of like what you said. I'm not stressing over this. So I was thinking, where is the money going to come from? How can I bring in this new income to pay him as soon as possible? So I thought, oh, my publisher, Hay House, my books came out last year. I haven't been paid a royalty yet because I got the advance and the royalties come out later. So anyways, I emailed the VP of Hay house and I, I asked her, Hey, I know the, um, my first royalty checks coming in a few weeks. I have no idea what that's going to be. Can you check accounting and let me know?

33:31She gets back to me 12 hours later when she said$150 ,000, the exact amount to pay him back.

33:40Lauryn Bosstick:That is, that is very, very Louise Hay. Yes. By the way. I know. I almost feel like she has a story that's similar to that where it's not the same story, but it's like there is it's what you just described is so Louise Hay, but people, they they do want to call it woo woo. How do you deal with that? Because I actually like being called woo woo. Like I'm very into it. I am woo woo. I hope no one forgets I am too. But how do you what do you say when someone says you're woo woo? I say if your way is not working, why don't you try mine? Even if it's woo woo, give me 30 days of this woo woo and let's see what happens.

34:18Michael Bosstick:I love it. The thing is, is like, I don't think it's a good strategy to be closed off to other strategies to begin with.

34:25Lauryn Bosstick:You do do a good job of that, Michael. Michael's open. Michael, as we've gone on, it has gotten way more woo woo. Well, no, it's not that I'm

34:32Michael Bosstick:way more woo woo. I just don't see the logic in closing off strategies to your point that are and could be working for other people. Like there's some people that say it's it's it only can be done this way. Like I have ideas about how certain things can be done. And then there's certain things. I'm like, well, maybe if that's not working, I got to try somebody else's. Like, I want to go through any outlet that makes sense and gets it done. I don't want to be closed off to different ideas. I think that's a really, that's limiting beliefs. Yes, 100%.

34:57Lauryn Bosstick:I got to ask you about fasting. Please. What is everyone doing wrong when it comes to fasting and how can we do it right? Fasting is the greatest health tool available to us. It's greater than any biohack out there, sauna, plunge, PMF. And I love all that stuff. I have all those things, but fast, there's nothing that could replace the healing powers of fasting when done right. It's the greatest way to harness this innate intelligence we have within the body, this inner physician that God put within every single cell. It's with fasting, remove the interference, remove the food, remove the noise.

35:29Now, where people get it wrong is that they don't understand that fasting is a stress to the body. And you might think, okay, well, then I should never fast because it's a stress. Well, no, that's not necessarily true. Exercise is a stress, but when you adapt to exercise, you get stronger. Same thing with fasting. It's a stress, but you want to make sure you adapt.

35:49Lauryn Bosstick:Same thing with sauna and cold plunge. Same thing with every single biohack. Exactly. So there's a principle called hormesis. Have you had a guess? No, talk more. I know, but talk more about it. Hormesis is a principle that states when you apply a stressor to a human being and that human being adapts to it, you're stronger and healthier. Got it. But if you don't adapt to that stress, then you're actually more inflamed. So exercise is the perfect example. If you're a couch potato and you go and do a CrossFit workout, you did too much stress, you're not going to adapt, you could really hurt yourself.

36:19If you've never fasted and you're eating 17 to 23 times a day, you're a sugar burner and you go into a 24-hour fast, not a good idea. You're not going to adapt to that stress. So you want to make sure you're easing into fasting. Fasting is like a muscle.

36:31Lauryn Bosstick:Do you like Prolon? It's a good option for people who are on a standard American diet. It's a great shift into the world of fasting. For me, Prolon is a step back because I already do five-day water fast. I do three-day fast. I'm fasted today. I haven't eaten since yesterday. I'm used to water fasting. To me, Prolon's a step back. But for most people, it's a good step in the right direction. How often are you doing these fasts? Like a long fast? Like five days? Yeah. Once a year for five days. And today happens to be one of the fasts? Today's 24, like 26 hours right now because it was a travel day and I never eat on the plane.

37:04I never eat at the airport. And then I want it to be focused for you guys. and I'm going to go to the Commodore after this and break the fast. Yeah, so, but a long fast is good once a year, like three days or longer.

37:15Michael Bosstick:Only once a year, once is enough. I mean, you can do it once a quarter if you want. If you're really overweight, you could probably get away with once a quarter. But people fall in love with fasting and then they forget they also need a feast. You got to feast. You got to eat enough protein, eat enough calories as well. It's very important not just to fast, but to feast as well. And that's where people make a mistake with fasting.

37:34Lauryn Bosstick:So when you break a fast, you feast. Oh, I feast. What are we feasting on tonight? I'm going to have their bone marrow tacos. The best. I'm going to have their ribeye. Okay. And then I forget what else they have. Probably a whole bunch of other appetizers and a mocktail.

37:50Michael Bosstick:So it'll be a heavy meal tonight after the fast. Yeah.

37:53Lauryn Bosstick:But you won't have a cocktail. I don't drink. It would be a mocktail. Do you not drink for health reasons? Ten years ago, I gave it up because it was taking me away from my goals. And every time I drank, I was a step or two behind the next day. and I thought it wasn't worth it to me. So I set a goal. It was a stupid goal, but I said, maybe not stupid, but I said, when I become a millionaire, I'll have my next sip of alcohol. But I felt like I didn't deserve it then. And then I became, thankfully I was able to earn that, but I still didn't drink because I feel so good without it. So it is a health reason.

38:23I never had a drinking problem, but for me, it was taking me away from my goals. And I'm so committed to the vision that I don't want anything that's gonna take me away from it.

38:31Michael Bosstick:So for somebody who, when you say it's one of the greatest tools we have for overall health. What are some of the things fasting can do for an individual from your perspective? So what happens inside of your body when you go without food for 100 hours, which is four days and four hours, is incredible. There is not a pill, a supplement, anything out there that could do what this does, right? Okay, 14 hours without food, pretty basic, 14 hours. You're done eating, let's say, at 7 p.m. and you don't eat until 9 a.m. the next morning. That's 14 hours. At that 14-hour mark, there are two benefits that happen.

39:03Number one, you lower insulin. Insulin is the only hormone that stores fat. So that means you're lowering insulin and you're actually getting access to fat for fuel. The second benefit at the 14 hour mark is your body has completed digesting your last meal. And it takes a lot of energy to digest food. That's why when you feast, you feel sluggish, right? So what happens when you're done digesting food at the 14 hour mark, a process called energy diversion gets turned on where the energy that was used for being used for digestion is now being diverted to the brain. So you get more focus. That happens at 14 hour mark.

39:3717 hours into the fast without food, 17 hours without food, your body ramps up a process called autophagy, which I'm sure you have some had some guests talk about, which is the cellular cleanup process. It's kind of like Pac-Man going within your cells, looking for damaged cells and eating it for fuel. Really, really important to prevent cancer and heal mitochondria. So that gets ramped up 17 hours and 24 hours into the fast, there's a surge in human growth hormone. Like us men, studies show there's a 2 ,000 % increase in HDH at that 2 ,000 hour mark.

40:08Lauryn Bosstick:Oh my God. Ladies? Michael sold on the fast. Yes. Wait, what about for ladies? Go on. 1 ,300 % for ladies. Human growth hormone is muscle building, anti-aging, and fat burning. And you could spend thousands of dollars getting injected, but you get it for free. And does that happen

40:23Michael Bosstick:because the body recognizes that it needs to keep the muscle on? Exactly right. The body's so smart, It wants to preserve muscle, which is very important. So it raises human growth hormone. So you're not breaking down muscle. You're breaking down fat. Interesting. Quick break to talk about court furniture. Here's the deal. Moving season is here. You're getting that new apartment, that new job. Maybe you're moving to a new city. But then comes the furniture problem. It's a total headache trying to furnish a new place, trying to go out and furniture shop. It's expensive. It's not sustainable. It's not durable.

40:53Michael Bosstick:And it's not something that you're going to keep forever. You don't know what you're doing. I know when I was younger, I was constantly on the move, moving different cities, different apartments, different places. And every single time the space required a little bit of different furniture. I wish I knew about court back then because buying furniture is expensive. Delivery takes forever and assembling it. It's a nightmare. Every time they say it's easy to assemble, it's not. It's always a mess. What I love about court is court furniture rental gets it. They help people furnish homes, apartments, and temporary spaces without the stress, the waste, or the big upfront costs.

41:20Michael Bosstick:Getting the apartment, getting the new place, getting the new condo, getting the new house is just one part of the cost. then you have to furnish the thing and it's expensive and there's nothing worse than being strapped for cash just for a place to live. This is why court's so great because all you have to do is choose a curated move-in ready package or create your own custom package. You pick your delivery date and court delivers and sets everything up. So when you walk in, your place is already done. It's ready to go, ready to live. And it's a rental. So you don't have to think about it when you leave.

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46:39Lauryn Bosstick:Is it true? You mentioned cancer. Is it true that if someone has cancerous cells in their system that the fast helps get rid of that? Yes. For most cancers, because a lot of cancers feed off of sugar and glucose. So by fasting, you starve the cancer cell, the tumor, with its energy source, which is sugar and glucose. And then you're producing ketones, which I'll talk about more later. But yes, it works for a lot of cancers. It's really, really good. Now, somebody's really skinny and they have cancer, it could be difficult to fast because it makes them even more like they're cachexic and you don't want to fast too much.

47:11So it's difficult for individuals who are very skinny and with cancer and they want to do fasting. But for other individuals, it's a valuable tool for cancer. Yes. 30 hours in. This is one of my favorite benefits of a fast. 30 hours in, 30 hours, no food. The brain starts producing something called brain derived neurotropic factor, BDNF, which is like miracle grow for the brain, brain fertilizer. Have any of you done 30 hours or longer? No.

47:37Lauryn Bosstick:No, we did Prolong. Okay. So this is a feeling that's hard to explain, but you feel euphoric. It makes sense to me why every religion has fasting in it because you get connected to your source. And that is for a reason because the body thinks you're going through a famine and it wants to survive. It doesn't understand that I could go on my phone and order Uber Eats or go to my pantry. It automatically goes into this mode and the brain produces BDNF so you're more creative and focused to go out there and hunt and kill, but you're going to use it for a podcast interview. I'm actually approaching that 30-hour mark, so I'm getting that BDNF.

48:1036 hours into a fast, your body is crushing fat cells. You've now depleted your sugar reserves and you're now only burning fat for fuel so your body produces ketones and those ketones tell your mitochondria to reproduce and you produce 400 % more energy when you're using ketones versus sugar, which is really, really important because you're gonna feel better. The next one is 48 hours in. This is called a dopamine fast. We live in a world where not only do we have insulin resistance, we have something called dopamine resistance. Dopamine is the chemical your brain produces to feel good, to have drive, inspiration.

48:46and we are getting dinged with notifications left and right, processed junk food, all this stimulation, which requires dopamine. And we want more dopamine to feel the same way. So now the receptor sites for dopamine are resistant, meaning we don't feel as good. We need more of these stimulations. Well, at the 48 hour mark of a fast, this is super cool. Those receptor sites for dopamine get resensitized. It's like a reset button. So you break that fast and now you don't need as much stimulation. Maybe there's an addiction you have that you could wean off of. So 72 hours in, your immune system regenerates.

49:22So you mentioned Prolon. The founder of it is Dr. Volter Longo. He's been on the show. Oh, he's been on the show. Oh, fantastic. He loves it. He was one of the leading researchers to show what happens to the immune system, 72 hours without food, where you get that max autophagy. And all these what's called senescent cell zombie cells are not being used for fuel. And then your body uses new fresh stem cells to replace it. So it's a regeneration of your entire immune system, 72 hours without food. And then at that 100 hour mark, right before you break the fast, which is four days and four hours, there's a surge of stem cells and people pay for stem cell therapy, which is great.

49:57But you get a surge of it with a 100 hour fast. It's completely life changing.

50:00Lauryn Bosstick:So you waited to come on our show. Did you strategically set up the fast so you could come on our show and have a surge of stem cells and then go eat guacamole? I strategically did it because I wanted to feel good during the conversation and I knew I was going to feast tonight and it was a travel day and I don't want to eat while I travel. So I did do it and I'm metabolically flexible and I feel great. Hold on just really quick. It's been four days and four hours. No, no, no, no, no. It's been about 27 hours for me. So you're not, so you're not doing the full one right now. No, no, I didn't do that.

50:30No, no.

50:30Lauryn Bosstick:Michael just got sold on the fast seconds. No, for sure.

50:33Michael Bosstick:I'm sold on it. And I've been thinking about doing it for a while, but and you're the perfect person to talk to if somebody is okay take me i if i want to do this what's the best way to kind of i don't say ease into it but what's the what's the best way to do it if you're just if you're gonna be your first time or you know and you don't want to like go five days right on day one what's your longest fast that you've done just with water we just done pro alone but you know um i think when you were talking about just like i mean i could do 16, 18 hours, no problem. That doesn't sound like a challenge to me.

51:07With just water, you feel fine? Yeah. I mean, could I have coffee? Coffee's fine.

51:11Michael Bosstick:Yeah. Yeah, water, coffee, I could do that. I have one cup of coffee. But that doesn't seem a challenge. And I imagine you're using a clean source of coffee beans. Of course. Okay, you're going to be safer. Do you like Keon? Keon's great, yeah. Okay. So you use Keon. Yeah. But I could do water. So anyways, but say I wanted to do like 36 hours to start. Is that a good place to start or is that too much for me? If you're going from 16 or 18 hours to 36, it might be a little bit of a stretch. Now, you could go for it, Michael, and see what happens. Or would you do 24 hours instead? I would go 24.

51:40I would do 24 and then go for 24 to 36 and then 36 to the 100-hour fast.

51:45Lauryn Bosstick:Can we text you if we're going to do this so you can give us the blueprint? I mean, I'm sure it's in your books, but I want to know. I'm happy to do that.

51:52Michael Bosstick:For people that are thinking about doing this, why do most people quit the fast when they're in it? Do they get scared? Do they get nervous? Do they just – like, what is it? It's a multitude of things. So number one, they go into it as a sugar burner and then they feel awful during a fast. They're like, oh my gosh, Ben explained it like all these amazing things are going to happen. And I feel like crap, like he lied to me. Well, because they went into it as a sugar burner. You want to first get fat adapted. I teach that in KetoFlex, but it sounds like you're fat adapted. I mean, you're not eating.

52:18Are you snacking and grazing? No, Michael.

52:20Lauryn Bosstick:Michael's the perfect person. Yeah, it sounds like you're pretty metabolically flexible. You're more of a fat burner than a sugar burner. So you're safe. And then the second part to it, why people quit. But psychologically, it's weird to not eat food. We're so conditioned to do it. And your wife cooks, your husband cooks, and then you want to go eat.

52:35Michael Bosstick:His wife doesn't cook. How many days, and you know this, how many days can the human body actually go without food until you starve? Let me ask you, what do you think the Guinness World Record is for the longest recorded fast? Let me guess too. 108 days. Okay. Am I wrong?

52:52Lauryn Bosstick:It's not 108. I'm going to say, hold on. It was a good guess though. I'm going to say six months. Six months. Okay. 382 days. So I was closer. You were closer. Angus Barbary is his name. I actually wrote about him in the book. He was a Scotsman. He was 450 pounds on day one and he was 180 pounds on day 382. He didn't eat food technically, but he was eating from his body. He had all this stored energy, body fat. So he was able to do that long of a fast. So the more fat you have, the longer you could fast. Now, I don't recommend doing a one year fast, but it just shows - Oh, his wife was probably like, get me the fuck out of here.

53:33Lauryn Bosstick:Probably. He's so grumpy.

53:35Michael Bosstick:Okay. So now I'm like, if I can't do 24 hours, I'm going to be thinking of Angus.

53:39Lauryn Bosstick:No, you can do 24 hours. Let Angus inspire you. I actually think, Michael, I actually think you could do three days. Now, technically, this guy Angus, just for the fact checkers, he had water, coffee. He had a multivitamin and nutritional yeast, but not really a meal. Okay, but I mean, nutritional yeast, that doesn't count, right? It's not technically a water fast, but still, I mean, 382 days. And he was medically supervised. I looked at his blood work. Everything looked great. Still pretty impressive, though.

54:08Michael Bosstick:Pretty impressive. I mean, we're over here. I'm over here talking about how can I get to 36? You know what I mean? Okay, so I'm going to go for, I'm going to do the 24. I'm going to work my way up, and I'll report back. But I think it's important to do this just, again, to her point, it's like, yes, it's great for the body, for all the things you listen, but I also think it's like a mental discipline for people, especially if maybe you're veering to a metabolically unhealthy place. This is a thing that costs no money. There's no magic pill. You don't have to spend it. You can do it yourself. You just got to have some discipline and mental fortitude.

54:37And that discipline does transfer to other areas. I'm sure. And just real quick, the best way to do a long fast, if you want my coaching on this, you could text me. You want to look at your blood glucose and ketones because that's an important gauge. And I talk about in KetoFlex where you prick your finger, you put it into the meter and you want to see your glucose gradually drop during the fast and your ketones go up. If you see the opposite, it signifies break the fast.

54:58Lauryn Bosstick:Do you have to do that? You don't have to do it. It's a tool, but you don't have to do it. No. Okay. You don't like pricking your finger? No. Okay. Oh, I'd rather fast for three days.

55:07Michael Bosstick:Let's take a quick break to talk about just ingredients. Over the years, Lauren and I have become obsessed with hydration. I know it's a big topic. Many people think about it and there's tons of products out there that are trying to solve the hydration problem. Here's the problem. Many of these products have harmful chemical ingredients, artificial ingredients, things that we know we should not be putting in our body. This is why Lauren and I love a product we recently discovered called Just Ingredients Electrolytes because they're made with real fruit and organic coconut water, things that actually nourish our body.

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56:02Michael Bosstick:If you don't, you're gonna get headaches, you're gonna get fatigued, you're gonna get dehydrated. So this is the one that I like after a strong sauna session. Regardless of sauna sessions, everyone should be hydrating properly. It's not just about water. We've talked about this on the show endlessly. It's about getting that proper electrolyte ratio. So if you've been looking for one that actually works with good ingredients, Just Ingredients has you covered. Of course, we have an incredible offer for our listeners. You can visit justingredients.com slash skinny and use code skinny at checkout for 20 % off your first full price purchase.

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58:00Thank God that Michael has committed to skincare.

58:04Lauryn Bosstick:I mean, he looks young. He looks fresh. He looks glowy. And that is a big thanks to Caldera Lab. This is specifically designed for men's thicker skin.

58:14Michael Bosstick:And they have this simple focus with products. It's just four simple products. It takes only a couple minutes, morning and night. And it's like brushing your teeth. Once I knew exactly what to use and which order, it became a no-brainer for me. It just became a real easy routine to start incorporating into my health routine, just like everything else. And what I think is so important for the men out there is that skincare can be overwhelming. It's not something we're taught as young kids. We're not really turned on to it. And so we kind of feel weird about it. But with Caldera Loud products, they make it easy and seamless and they make it feel part of your routine.

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1:01:04Michael Bosstick:Why do most people struggle to remove that last bit of belly fat under the belly button? Because they stick with the same things that help them lose the first set of weight and you need to change it up for that last mile. Ah, that's what I'm doing. You're changing things up?

1:01:18Lauryn Bosstick:No, I'm doing what you're saying. Oh, you're stuck in the same ways. Eating a lot of meat got me to, I had to lose 60 pounds three times. Pregnancy. Pregnancy. Okay, got it. 60 pounds three times. The losing the weight with the meat and the strength training got me to where I wanted to be, but I'm still doing that and I have about 15 more pounds. So you would say to switch that up? Yes, switch it up because every great personal trainer understands that philosophy of adaptation, right? They always change up the workout. So like change it to chicken? What do you mean? Are you doing carnivore diet?

1:01:48Lauryn Bosstick:No, I'm doing, I don't do carnivore. I do a lot of meat. Okay, me too. Me too. I love meat. Do you do carbs? Yeah. Yeah, I do carbs. Do you time your carbs around your cycle? Oh my God. I got to bring in my cycle? I don't even know when my cycle is. Well, I'll keep it simple for you. The week before your period is when you want to increase your carbs. The week of your period, do the meat, do the fasting. The week before is when you want to increase your carbs. You might have to text me this. That's not how my brain works, what you just said. You might have to text me. So the week before my period, I increase my carbs.

1:02:19Lauryn Bosstick:And the week of my period, I go more meat. Meat and fasting and strength training because that's when hormones are low and then the stressors could be high. But the week before, hormones seem to be high, like estrogen, progesterone. Well, meat's bloody. That's how I'll remember it. There you go. There you go.

1:02:32Michael Bosstick:I know this is a controversial statement these days, but I, as a man, do not get my period. So what do I do? So men could be more aggressive. Now for men, I always tell them, and I would tell women to revisit the fundamentals and make sure those are down pat. So sleep here. You want to make sure you're getting about 90 minutes of deep sleep and REM sleep every night. Do you get that? I would say normally uninterrupted. Yes. But we have three kids under six. And no, it's not our other two kids.

1:03:00Lauryn Bosstick:It's the baby.

1:03:01Michael Bosstick:It's the baby's up a lot right now. And I'm up with the baby a lot.

1:03:03Lauryn Bosstick:So I it's the baby goes like this and he's up.

1:03:06Michael Bosstick:Well, I can't. I'm a light sleeper. I'm like you, dude. My wife, she sleeps through everything. Yeah. She never wakes up.

1:03:12Lauryn Bosstick:That's how I am. Oh, that's how you are, too. Yeah. There could be like we could be robbed and she would not know. If someone robbed me, I'd be like, just don't wake me up. What am I going to do? I can't do anything.

1:03:22Michael Bosstick:But that's why in our relationship, that's why I get up because I'm like, she's not getting up and I'm awake. So I might as well just do it. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, sleep as much as you can. I know you have a new baby. Let's talk about something else outside of sleep. Sprinting is fantastic for belly fat. Do you do any sprinting? I need to do more of it. I used to do more. No, I was doing it for a while really well and I was doing the assault bike. I got to get back into sprinting. I just hate it so much. And sprinting in a fasted state, even better. And it doesn't really mean you're sprinting for an hour.

1:03:51like 20 seconds or 30 seconds all out effort and then a minute and a half rest for like five rounds in a fasted state, you'll start to see that belly fat shred. Right.

1:04:01Lauryn Bosstick:Oh my gosh. Well, I know it's

1:04:03Michael Bosstick:the reason I ask it. So it's a, it's a, it's like that last bit that everybody kind of complains about. It's like you get it.

1:04:07Lauryn Bosstick:Then it's that last bit, you know, before you go, tell us about keto flex. And then I insist that you come back in like eight months. Well, I'm writing a new book all about belly fat and visceral fat. So I'll come back and talk all about that. It's about 80 % done. It's actually my favorite book that I've written to date. This book, Keto Flex, is being released July 21st. It has a 45-day plan for how to practice keto flexing. So I'm a big fan of keto, big fan of carnivore, big fan of fasting, but not long-term ketosis, not long-term carnivore, not extreme fasting. So this teaches you how to get the best of both worlds, a chapter on how women do it with a menstrual cycle, how post-menopausal women, and then how men do it.

1:04:44So it's all mapped out in a 45-day plan. You get to understand what keto is. It's not a diet. It's a metabolic process. There's some recipes at the end, and there's a beginner guide and an advanced guide, depending on where you're at with your journey. The link for it for free bonuses, if anybody wants it, is ketoflexbook.com.

1:05:01Lauryn Bosstick:I already make these pancakes for my kids. They're called mommy waffles. Look, it's in here, except I do add - Look at that.

1:05:09Michael Bosstick:You didn't title it, right? You call it banana egg. They're called mommy waffles. Mommy waffles.

1:05:13Lauryn Bosstick:I thought you don't cook. I cook mommy waffles, and guess what? My kids think I am the best cook on the planet. Michael, tell them.

1:05:19Michael Bosstick:I eat them all in waffles. They're pretty good, actually. They're pretty good.

1:05:21Lauryn Bosstick:But I do instead of, and I want to know your opinion actually on this. I do ground non-glyphosate oatmeal. Do you like Casanova flour better? It says... Cassava flour. I can't pronounce the name. Yeah, Casanova and glyphosate. Do you like that better than oatmeal? Because I'm going to switch it. They're probably even. They're probably going to be even as long as it's glyphosate free. Yeah. You don't have to switch it. There's only one brand that I found that has no whatever it's called. Viphosate. One Degree. That's the brand. I don't know that brand, but that's great. One Degree. That's great.

1:05:56Lauryn Bosstick:This is amazing that I just opened the page to this because I'm going to show this recipe. You guys have to go get his book. Mommy Waffles are in here. Mommy Waffles. I'm going to tell my publisher we got to rename it on the reprinted edition. We're going to sue your ass, right? Exactly. This is really great. I really like the recipe section too because it seems like these are really easy recipes to make and not overwhelming. That's what I wanted. And you know, I don't cook, so I don't really care for recipes, but I wanted to make sure it had my high standards and it was easy to make. And that's why it's in there.

1:06:24Lauryn Bosstick:I think you're fantastic. That was a home run episode.

1:06:28Michael Bosstick:Yeah, we could go on. There's probably a million rabbit holes we could go down. You guys go get Ben's book on Amazon.

1:06:33Lauryn Bosstick:He brought both of them to us. He also, if you watched my Instagram story, brought me his favorite book. He says it's right after the Bible and it's called The Science of Getting Rich. That's right. And that's not by you, but you love it. That's not by me. Wallace D. Waddles. Wallace C. Wattles. There you go. From 1911. I recommended chapters four, 14, and seven for 90 days in a row. Actually, at the end of this month, for me, it's going to be 365 days in a row listening or reading those three chapters. And it's changed my life.

1:06:58Michael Bosstick:Every day. Every day. I did it on the plane.

1:07:00Lauryn Bosstick:Do you listen or read it? Mostly listen because of convenience, but I get more out of reading.

1:07:07Michael Bosstick:You know, I was going to tell you quickly, and I've said this on the show a few times over the years, but the reason that I can't listen to as many things I can read is I read this book and I was bad in school too, but there's a book called Managing Oneself by Peter Drucker. Have you ever read it? I know Peter Drucker. I haven't read the book. Okay. So you'd like it. It's a small little book. Well, now you've got to get him next time he comes to the show. Next time you come, I'll get it. But he was talking, he said that most people are either a listening learner or a reading learner. And the example he gave is when Dwight D.

1:07:33Michael Bosstick:Eisenhower was the general of the European armies during World War II. He was, and I might get this backwards It's been a while, but he was incredible because he would basically be able to listen to all the, or no, he would be able to read all the reports from his sub generals to be able to figure out what's going on the battlefield and respond accordingly and just like crush it. Then he became president later and all of his reports from his subordinates were verbal and he became like a disaster. Interesting. And it's, and it's not because he wasn't an effective leader or wasn't smart or intelligent.

1:08:03Michael Bosstick:It's because the type of learner he was, was different. And so when I read that for me, I'm like, Oh, anytime I pick up a book. or I read something, I can retain it and I can act on it and I can pick up the lesson. But my whole life in school is terrible because I can't, I'm not the best listening.

1:08:18Lauryn Bosstick:Oh my God, this explains our whole marriage. I'm going to write you a letter.

1:08:23Michael Bosstick:So what happens, if you write me a letter, I'll be good. But so what happens is when she puts the tapes on with, with, um, you know, some of the people she has, I can't, like, I can't deal with, but then if I read the books, if I read the writings of these people, then I really like retain it. So it's good. You guys, I mentioned it because it's a, it's a tangent. It makes total sense to me, by the way. Total sense. Which is why I do a podcast where I listen to people all the time. Exactly. What a great person to be married to. It's different though if I can talk to people. Okay. So like if I, if I like interrupt some people who's like, oh, I was interrupting on the show, but it's, I'm processing.

1:08:54Michael Bosstick:I understand. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But if you just were droning on talking to me and I was like this, I'd be lost. Ben, you're the man.

1:09:00Lauryn Bosstick:thank you very much wait where instagram what do people want to say at the benazati on instagram and then my biggest platform is youtube which is benazati on youtube okay i'm gonna find you right now on instagram that was amazing