Busy Philipps: Unfiltered & Unapologetic On ADHD, Boundaries, & The Realities of Hollywood

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28:02Our generation with younger, you're going to kind of see like, okay, how did that first group handle this? And what did they do right? And what did they, shouldn't they not have done? I think it's an important conversation because at that time for younger people, they don't see this, but nobody had the playbook or the advice on how to manage any of this.

28:17Busy Philipps:Right. And it felt very accepting at the time. Yeah. You had the community there. Now you don't really know who's following and how and what the intention is. That's right. That, to your point, that's what I mean. Like in that early day, like I felt like it was really a community and it was really support. It felt very supportive. It would be rarely bad comments. Yes. And I think that the whole landscape kind of shifted. And yeah, I mean, I think we were all trying to figure it out. And and also I would say that I do feel like intuitively or not, I never shared anything, even though there were things that were going on in my kids lives that were tough.

29:00Busy Philipps:I never shared anything from their lives that could possibly that in my in my estimation now this is like this is where it's like they're their own people. Right. But in my estimation, nothing that I shared when they were younger. would be something that, you know, could be embarrassing to them later in life, you know. But again, they're their own people. So they get to decide what was embarrassing or not embarrassing for me to have shared. In terms of Birdie, you know, Birdie's very, my older daughter was always very much, well, she's always been like hyper verbal and really smart. And I mean, both my kids are very smart but really expressive and birdie always was very specific of like i would like for you to share this i don't want you to you know and yeah and like and my younger daughter cricket a couple years ago was like i do not want to be on your instagram at all period full stop and i was like great you don't have to be on my instagram ever again like that's great isn't it weird how they're so different they're so different and it is funny sometimes when like people leave comments like i know who your favorite child is it's very clear i'm like do you okay but that's what i'm saying like all right those kind of comments are the new age social right exactly you didn't get them in the past i mean that's yeah just not everyone knows my favorite child is my dog i'm kidding how have you managed to co-parent so successfully what are the tips for people who are listening like through divorce yeah well i really love mark yeah it seems like you have like a very good relationship with him yeah he's awesome i wouldn't be like this just so you know well i don't know that and you don't know that you don't know how you would be i mean you're how many months postpartum right now yeah let's not make the decision right now let's not talk about it right now okay because you're not even you know i think you're pretty cool how you how you are it seems like you guys are pretty cool with each other yeah well we did a lot of therapy for many many years before we even separated got it and like the therapy that the couples therapy i'm a huge i don't like religiously watch couples therapy that show but i do love it i love to dip in and out of it and i do just love that i hope that it's normalizing couples therapy at all stages of relationships because i think that there's so much value in finding a person that can help you find a common language with your partner because it's it's hard you know like it's hard under the best of circumstances like and then you add all of the kids and the craziness and career and you know upset and turmoil and taking people for granted and whatever you know into the mix and then it's just becomes and just like life like the mundane parts of life and it can be really difficult so I think you know I'm a big believer in couples therapy and I do think that Mark and I both look at our relationship as very successful even though we ended one part of it which was the romantic part of our relationship and And like, ultimately, we want the other person to be happy and fulfilled and be living their truest life, you know?

32:35It's very evolved, Izzy. It's a very healthy perspective, too. Not everyone's like that. It's healthy.

32:38Busy Philipps:Well, I think that Mark is what I really love about him is that I think that he's very much a person who, you know, is as down to dismantle the patriarchy as I am. And I think a lot of our belief systems about the way that it looks when heteronormative relationships end is deeply rooted in like a patriarchal society and the idea that partnerships are actually ownerships when in fact they're not. And he never had ownership over me and I never had ownership over him. and we came to the conclusion of our romantic partnership together entered into a new phase that at times was messy and feelings were hurt and it was hard but we did a lot of work to make sure that our kids didn't see too much of that and that we were able to forgive one another continuously.

33:42Busy Philipps:It's a process. I was like mad at him the other day and like, you know, and he apologized and I was like, okay, I appreciate that. Thank you. You know, like we continue to have this, you know, conversation that's kind of ongoing. We're not like in therapy anymore, but, but I think that part of that idea of like, once one person is like, wait, I don't know if I'm in this in the same way anymore there are going to be hurt feelings and it's going to not feel great and then the challenge becomes if you have children and you want to maintain a relationship with this person I mean I think you owe it to your children to do it that was like my feeling was always like we owe it to them and can't get bogged down in our own weirdness because ultimately at the end of the day, like life is so short.

34:35How have you managed to stay like so down to earth and real? You can like you get it when you when you talk to you in Hollywood, because it's very it's a it's a it's a different energy than a lot of Hollywood to me.

34:50Busy Philipps:Well, I mean, I don't really hang out with a lot of people from Hollywood, I guess. I mean, Michelle Williams is like one of my best friends, but obviously she is one of my closest friends of all time but she is also similarly like very grounded and down to earth and really family focused and I don't know I think it's just kind of who I am and I think there are a ton of people in Hollywood that are like that I just like in any industry you have you know people that are not chill. Yeah. And like not real. Yeah. You know, but I just try to gravitate towards people that have the same kind of energy as I do and not really waste my time.

35:38Busy Philipps:It's I mean, it's a full time job. It is. I want to talk about your early acting because everyone would we have to talk about that and how it's we're bringing it full circle to today. Oh, yeah. When did you get your big break on Dawson's Creek? Like, what was the moment that you knew that this is going to change your whole life? Well, I don't know if I mean, you know, it's so funny. So I had done, you know, Freaks and Geeks was the first TV show that I did. And I was 19. I was a sophomore in college and got cast on that show. And it was, you know, NBC. it felt like that was going to change my life you know and then we started doing press for the show and you know it's james franco and jason siegel and linda cartellini and you know john francis daly and judd apatow and paul feig and you know it really and seth rogan and it just really felt like yeah that show launched a lot of yeah it launched all like it was crazy was that a fun set yeah it was so fun i mean it was so fun and and doing the press for the show everyone was saying like this is the best new show of the season like this and the west wing were like the two new best shows of the season and then you know and i was sort of like well this is it like i'm gonna like it's gonna happen you know and then like just did not like no one watched the show like the ratings were bad we kind of always knew that it was like nbc didn't think it was a hit We were sort of, we got the back order for the, you know, back, it's like a back nine, but I think they only gave us seven.

37:17Busy Philipps:And, you know, we were just sort of like chugging along, but it really felt like no one knew who we were. It wasn't a hit. When you say back nine, is that how they used to structure the deals? Like you get a season, if it does okay, then they'll give you. So it's like on a network show that used to be that they would do like, they would order for a new show, they would order 13 episodes for the fall. So they would start with 13 and then they would give you an order for the back nine if the show was successful. So that would be like a full season of a show. Like on Cougar Town, for instance, we got the first 13 episodes when we premiered.

37:49Busy Philipps:And then they ordered 10, I think, because we did a lot that first season on ABC. But then the second season, they did like the full season order. So 22 episodes. But that was like the old structure of network TV. That doesn't, I don't even know if that exists anymore. I think they just green light right off the bat now. Well, they do. If they're going to do it. Like they just do the whole season, right? I think they still do 13, like for a lot of shows. But they also do, you know, like they'll only do 13 episodes. Did you guys skyrocket to the moon with Dawson's Creek? Or did it look like that from the outside looking in?

38:24Busy Philipps:Well, those kids did for sure. I mean, they were, I joined. And so I did Freaks and Geeks. I did that season of Freaks and Geeks where it was like, I thought things were going to be one way. It just clearly didn't happen. And then that next year of my life after that show was canceled, I mean, I was really sort of let down and couldn't believe like I really thought that it was going to be a whole thing, you know. And I did some like I did like an indie movie. I did like a made for TV movie. I was just like trying to work. I thought about going back to college for a second and I was going to and then got another job and then got a call that they were that the Dawson's Creek.

39:06Busy Philipps:Look, producers were adding a couple new characters because the kids were going to college. They wanted me to come in and read and then test for this new series regular part to be Joey Potter's roommate at college. And I mean, Dawson's Creek was yeah, they were they had skyrocketed. That was maybe a year or two before Freaks and Geeks, that show had premiered. Yeah, it was like the cover of Rolling Stone. They were the cover of Entertainment Week. They were hugely, hugely successful. You know, James had done Varsity Blues and Josh was in whatever the horror movie was. And Katie was starring in, you know, Ice Storm.

39:47Busy Philipps:And Michelle was in Dick. Like, they were like huge stars, those kids. And so it was like a little intimidating. from that perspective, but I wasn't a fan of the show. Like I hadn't really watched it. And I hadn't really watched, I had never seen it when I got the part. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's really strange. I remember, I remember where I was sitting watching you on the screen. Really? Like, oh my gosh, she's, I remember thinking, oh my gosh, she's so pretty. Oh, that's so nice. And like it added, like it added a layer to the show when you came on, in my opinion. so when you when you get around all these people that are so famous you said it was intimidating were they all welcoming and nice and cool and down to earth yeah I actually met James first like right when I landed in Wilmington and I was taken to the hotel that they were putting me up at to start with before I like got an apartment like found an apartment and stuff to live in and I met James and he was staying in the hotel too because his house I think he had rented his house out for the summer or something.

40:51Busy Philipps:And it wasn't like he couldn't go back yet. And he was so kind and really like, I hear great things and I'm super excited to work with you and really lovely. And then Michelle was happened to be across the street at the convenience market, getting some, I don't even remember what, like, I don't know, but picking some things up. And she was heading to her apartment and she walked across the street and I met her. I mean, Wilmington, North Carolina at the time was like a very small town. It's like 2001. This is the summer of 2001. Yeah. And I met Michelle and like we sort of instantly were just like, okay, well, we're going to hang out all the time.

41:31Busy Philipps:You know, like let's just sit down. And did your life change after that completely? No. Really? No. Yeah. No, it didn't. No, it really didn't. Oh my gosh. I feel that show was like like that was the show it was but like it also was like it was the college years so I think you know sort of that skyrocket moment had really happened already for them and you know now it was like very clearly like it was it was like the last two years of the show and it wasn't that it wasn't hugely popular and I mean it was and tons of people watched it but yeah Yeah, I just it wasn't like a noticeable shift. And in terms of.

42:23Busy Philipps:You know, auditions or parts or. Look, it had already exploded on the scene. It had. Yeah. And so for me coming into it also, again, like the Internet didn't really exist. So, I mean, and by the way, kind of thank God because I was sort of a mess. But it wasn't like, you know, I don't know. There weren't people writing about how awesome I was on the show or something like it wasn't. I didn't it didn't even really I didn't really feel like it was Dawson's Creek in another show but I can't remember the other show what was the other city no there was another show it was Dawson's Creek and and um yes and it's gonna I don't know if it was on the WB but there was those were like two shows to watch and I forgot what the other one was I only remember Dawson's oh no so so how does it the other show thank God I know it's gonna drive me nuts what the other show was if you think of it.

43:14Well, how do you guys decide now to bring all of this sort of like back and like reactivate the reading that you're doing?

43:22Busy Philipps:Oh, well, OK. So James Van Der Beek found out that he had cancer and he has six children and they have six kids. Yeah. He and Kimberly have six kids. And he, you know, revealed that quite some time ago now, I guess, was it December or January last year and or this year January this year December last year you know that sort of like brought us kind of all back together Michelle and I obviously are very very close friends and we've remained super super tight friends for all of these years we all saw each other I mean probably like seven years ago now to do this entertainment weekly cover like special reunion issue.

44:08But, you know, we reached out to James.

44:12Busy Philipps:I mean, I reached out to James. I know Michelle reached out to James. And, you know, I've seen Katie over the years. Michelle's seen Katie. But, like, we haven't stayed in super close contact. Josh. Also, Josh and I are, you know, we text every once in a while. But, like, everybody lives such disparate lives. And we have all these other things going on. Josh Jackson, you know, he lost his home in the fires in Los Angeles. last year. And so, you know, at that point, I was reaching out to him a lot and making sure that he was OK. So after James, you know, revealed his diagnosis and we all sort of were like, what can we can we do something like we should do something like let's just do something.

44:50Busy Philipps:Michelle really was the one that kind of led the charge and just was like busy. I just really feel like we have to we have to get together and we should do like a fundraiser and it can benefit, you know, Greg Berlanti, who was one of the showrunners of Dawson's Creek, he's like on the board of F Cancer organization. She's like, we can benefit F Cancer and we can benefit like, you know, a fund for James's kids. And, you know, we should just try to put something together. And she really, really has like led the charge. And so we tried to do it earlier, like in the spring and schedules just didn't work out.

45:31Busy Philipps:And we're going to do it, yeah, on September 22nd at the Richard Rogers Theater on Broadway. And ticket sales have been insane. It sold out in like 12 minutes. And a lot of people are asking for it to be streamed, live streamed, but, you know, I was talking to all the people that are involved. I mean, this is kind of like a huge undertaking. Like there's producers and people from the theater and it's like, you know, who are helping coordinate. And Richard, the Richard Rogers theater is where Hamilton is. It's where Hamilton's performed. So we're doing it on Monday night because Broadway is dark on Monday nights.

46:05Busy Philipps:And it's my understanding we can't actually do a live stream because of like what the cost of that would be. So I know that there are going to be filming parts of it. And like, hopefully we'll be able to like put together something at a later date. And so that people can, who aren't able to make it are going to be able to see some of it. Are you guys reenacting a new, like you guys today? or is it you reading an old script from back in the day? I don't even know. Danny, am I even allowed to say what is happening? Or is it a surprise? Yeah, I think it's a surprise. It's a surprise. Okay, so we're in for a surprise.

46:37Busy Philipps:Well, I was going to say buy some tickets, but... Well, I know. Are there any tickets left? I feel like people could figure out that streaming thing. And there's a raffle, though, that's happening for tickets now, which somebody was very angry with me about online the other day. And I was like, I mean, I'm not doing it. I mean, this is all going to charity anyway. It's like 100 % of the proceeds are going to charity. So someone online will always find something to be mad about. I know they were upset because they had like spent a lot of money. And then they're like, and now you're just raffling off tickets for$25.

47:08I was like, yeah, but you don't spend$25.

47:10Busy Philipps:You don't know if you're going to win. You know what I mean? Like there's no guarantee that you're getting a ticket, babe. Sometimes you just can't explain stuff. You can always enter the raffle. Somebody will win, and it's possible that they maybe just spent$25 on raffle tickets. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Who knows? Sometimes you just can't win online. Yes. Well, ain't that the truth. How do you think about social media today, and how do you show up on social media? I mean, I feel like I'm so bad at it now. So you don't want to, like, story tell through stories anymore like you did? I do sometimes.

47:44Busy Philipps:Yeah, like, I do. I do. I do enjoy it. but I just feel like I have so many other things that are happening in my life that I have to focus on and I really and you know I've never had anyone do my social media for me so I've never had anyone post for me I don't have a social media manager like I don't have a person who's like you know what you should do you should do some like cooking videos or whatever and we'll come over and film a bunch of content for you and then we'll upload it like I know a lot of actors and celebrities that do that kind of content creation. I don't have someone who's filming things for me and then giving me the content later.

48:21Busy Philipps:And I was really lucky because my ex-husband, Mark, is kind of an amazing photographer. And so for so long, I had just the best pictures to post. That's hard to get a divorce from. I mean, honestly, I always am like, I'm sad that I divorced my Instagram husband. Yeah. I'm not a very good photographer at all. The worst. It's the worst. I know. It was a real bummer. This is my second marriage. I'm going to, one of the requirements is you have to be an incredible photographer. Now I feel much more vulnerable in this relationship. Yeah, you are. I think I should tack on that photographer. I think you need to work on your skills, sir.

48:52You know what? I set the bar so low in the beginning because I knew if I was good, if I developed that skill, it would be like, that's what I would become. By the way, I've taken so many amazing photos of you and you're like, send me all of them and you're like posting yourself. I get literal jack shit. You take some blurry photo with a dirty lens it's horrible it's also funny though too kind of i see some of these guys that do that are the photographers and it it's it's it's a tough gig i think i think it's a tough gig

49:23Busy Philipps:yeah mark always liked it because he loves he genuinely loves taking pictures but yeah but like it's so funny i do feel like i said to him at some point like during our separation you know early on at one point I was like oh I think you're like over me the pictures aren't good anymore and and I was just like that I was like but that's real like I feel like that's what he still takes the most beautiful pictures of our children so at least I benefit from that even if I'm not posting them online but like yeah he really I remember the turn I like remember when I was like, oh, yeah, you don't see me that way anymore.

50:02Busy Philipps:Like, it's really kind of special. The photos are a reflection of his adoration. And that's, I think it was. I mean, I really think it was. Huh. I know. Interesting. How do you think about everything you're doing now? What are the buckets that you're putting your energy into? Oh, my gosh. So many buckets. I mean, my kids, my teenagers, I know before we started and you were like, I think once they're a little bit older, it'll be so much easier. It'll make myself feel better. I know. And the truth is, it's hard in a different way. Yeah. And they demand it's challenging in new ways because you want to make sure that you're there for them and you're able to like be supportive and also meet them where they're at, but also not meet them as like a peer because that's weird.

50:46Busy Philipps:Yeah. And provide them with safe boundaries, but also know that like at a certain point, age 17, like she's making decisions on her own that I'm not going to be involved in. And she may or may not even tell me about. And I have to feel good about how Mark and I have parented her up till this point to know that she's going to be making the best choices she can make. That's so hard. It is so hard. It's hard. Like, whereas when you're when you have the baby, right, like your brain is always like, we're keeping this baby alive. We're keeping this baby alive. Like, I'm keeping track of all of these different things that we need all the time to protect my children.

51:23Busy Philipps:Right. it's a similar piece of your brain but you there's no there's no practical outlet for it you can't like you can't baby proof the the outlets do you know what i mean you have to just know that like theoretically you baby proofed the outlets emotionally hopefully yeah so that they're strong enough to move into this very confusing very difficult complicated time in their lives and in the world. It's hard. Yeah, and also teaching them how to manage social media with that. Oh, yeah. I mean, I can't imagine being a 17-year-old girl and having, like, the internet how it is now. It's a lot. It's intense.

52:08Busy Philipps:You have to really have so many. I'm more concerned. I have to tell you, just personally, just in watching it, and I think it shifts. I think it'll just be different for your kids, too. For me, I think that, like, really where I saw a lot of parents kind of... falter fall off the cliff the conversation was always open in our house about social media because of my job and my presence i saw a lot of parents not deal with it early enough what do you mean like i mean parents saying things like well my kid's just not gonna have social media until their x age and it's like baby your kid is playing roblox they have social media what is your road everyone talks about this it's a game exactly what you're saying kids can like talk to other kids through roblox and like you have to have these conversations at like age eight and nine not wait until they're teenagers they need to start learning what's appropriate to say and post and communicate online when they're like younger that was where i saw a lot of my peers as parents have a little bit of a disconnect where they're like well my kid's not even gonna have a phone until middle school.

53:18It's exactly like sex though, isn't it? Yes, correct. It's like when we were young, our parents are like, well, I'm not going to talk to her about sex because she's 13 years old. And it's like, no, actually they're already doing sexual things at 13 years old. You need to have the conversation at like probably 12 or even 11. It's very similar to that kind of conversation. It needs to be done before it happens.

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1:00:09I've said a few times on this show that I actually think people, I'll just say like people like us that use these tools professionally will actually in some ways be better equipped to speak to our children about it because you're aware of how these things work in an intricate way. Oh, totally. where like if you like take someone like my dad who again has never been on it he doesn't even know what advice to give because he doesn't even understand what's going on on the platforms to begin with and then the kids get a hold of it and like he can't like he could have never given me advice on how to manage this thing because he's never used the thing right but if you're in it day in day out and you understand like how the comments and you can also this is a weird thing i was thinking about another lens you can kind of get the temperature of the internet and what's going on and what's like happening in the moment if that makes sense if you're in it you can okay like you know there's a lot of crazy stuff going on right now it's like hey maybe sure like take a

1:00:59Busy Philipps:beat for a second you know like well the one thing that i feel like i said to birdie very early on and i've said to cricket now as well very early on was this idea of like here's here's the thing kid like in life once you see something you can never unsee it and it's in your brain forever and there are just things in this world that you don't want to have in your brain i'm just telling you you just don't that's very good advice and like you know we're talking today which this will air in a few weeks but the day after something really horrific happened that was all over social media and there's no way to protect yourself sometimes as an adult from seeing really horrific imagery you're right you can't unsee that stuff you cannot unsee it's in your brain forever and you don't need it.

1:01:49Busy Philipps:I'm telling you, you don't need it. And so you have to be very, very careful and vigilant. And, you know, like you said earlier, every kid is different. And like that message to Birdie was like, yes, like she really older kid, like first daughter or whatever. Like she was like, yes, cricket, I can tell is a little bit more of like, but what if I see it? You know what I mean? Like, maybe I saw it, you know, and that's and then you have to you have to like meet them there you have to meet your kid where they are there and say like okay so what did you did you end up seeing that thing and what did what happened and how did it make you feel and are you all right about it do you have to have that conversation at this point of course of course and the other thing that i did that like is just such a bummer is that i watched every YouTuber that they liked.

1:02:42Busy Philipps:Both of my children. I cannot tell you about the television show, The Bear, because I've missed all of the seasons. But I can tell you about Kaylin and Weston Corey, my daughter's favorite YouTubers. And I can tell you about a bunch of other YouTubers, Veronica and Kyle. Love them. Shout out. And he's just watching them to make sure that it's like, you want to see what's going on. You want to understand what they're watching. It's not just that. It's like, yes, 100 percent, because I think also when they were like a little bit younger and starting to watch YouTube, I think there's a lot that gets put in to subliminal shit.

1:03:18Busy Philipps:Well, just like you just have to watch it. And I'm saying like it's a lot of I think that a lot of parents sort of use it as a little bit of a babysitter. And I think that that's the biggest mistake, because obviously, like you can't course correct messaging or things that don't align with what you believe in your home. if like your kids you think these boys are watching just a thing about cool cars and then it's andrew tate you know what i mean like that's like that was the thing with my older daughter was really like that era of where the the middle school boys were like he's all about like money and cars like yeah middle school boys like money and cars and guess what else they were getting a lot of misogyny and horrible horrible rhetoric about how women are possessions and they're yours to take and you know we had like lots of conversations with the school about it because birdie was coming home and telling us like these boys are like obsessed with andrew tate and da da da da and i talked to one of the parents and they were like i don't know what that is yeah i don't know who that is i'm like will your son does so how'd they see that because it's because it's i mean what do you mean it's on youtube i mean how do they not see it they would be watching cars and then it would just go to he does car like he was like look at my car look at the thing look at the money it's all a grind and the like you're gonna grind and you're gonna make money and then also also all of these other horrible horrible ideological ideas that were like getting put into it that's wild you have to be like as effective as a parent it's like so many hats to put on you're really an octopus it's like a detective i mean you were lucky circus act a juggler you gotta make you gotta be a cook if you were lucky you would find like a dirty magazine in the bushes that was about it i know that's now you can find i feel like that's a very like specific story you found dirty magazines in the bushes no it's not it's not i swear to you it's not i so many guy men that i know and i'm friends with were like yeah yeah behind the circle k there was like a dumpster and you knew that like behind the dumpster there would be like and i have another friend who in the woods they were like you find a dirty magazine there was a cachet i don't know if it was like a community thing that everyone's like you might need this it's like a library in the woods yes i swear to you i have heard this story from so many dudes and then you had like the secret vhs type if you were lucky like you had like one tape well i remember my sister was obsessed with george michael the singer i mean obviously and she got the vhs of i want your sex which was like a music video guys it was not a porn yeah but we literally thought it was like watching porn like we did not know but we were like back in the day you would have the last on the remote control and you'd be like up at night in the middle of the night and there'd be like cinemax or hbo or whatever was on and then someone walking to hit last and it goes back to like an infomercial oh my god that is really funny no i don't so you'd just be like beating your meat to hbo and press last when your mom and then you stay home from school and it would be like jerry springer you'd be like six years old and people would be screaming and throwing chairs at each other like that's what we grew up on it was it was wholesome at the time no i mean yeah dirty magazine jerry springer i mean there is something to be said for that i mean there is definitely something to be said for that I think what you said, though, about talking to your kids before it happens or early instead of, I'm just going to talk to my kids about sex when they start having sex.

1:06:52You need to talk about it before so they have context. It's a crazy thing, though, because I was talking to another friend of mine who's got older kids, and he's saying that the problem is that if you get, you know, you see even pornography on the Internet, like what a young kid thinks is supposed to be a sexual experience is then so revved up. Stretched. that then when they have a real one it's like what this is what they think that's what it's supposed to be depending on how hardcore whatever the stuff and he said you have to like really just be mindful of that stuff because we didn't have access to it and so right that was the that's the

1:07:22Busy Philipps:other conversation you especially you guys have boys like you really have to talk to them about porn and like it's i know no one wants to do it no one wants to talk to their parents about porn and nobody wants to talk to their children about porn and you have to i thought that my boys were just gonna like stare at photos as long as i don't have to talk to my daughter about porn when i like you don't have to but you someone has to talk to your daughter about porn i'm gonna have a rough time i'm gonna have i'm gonna struggle with that we're gonna become amish and just well they get a rumspringa honey so you know what i mean okay yeah the amish i feel like i have a lot of kids in the family they're having fun the amish are the rumspringa is the year that they get before they like fully commit their lives to being amish so it's like i think it's like they're 19 years old or something there's a really good documentary about it perfect age for a rumshringer and they spend an entire they get like at least a year some of them take longer and they just go wild i think i had like a six-year rumshringer that's what you might have yeah you may have i hope you got it out of your system before we got married six year one what does it take to date you at this point oh my god what a transition i love it from hardcore porn to what is it like what is what is like your requirements where you're like you have to be single and not married okay that's someone else that's a good one check check no you guys you would be shocked at like at this point how many married men like hit me up uh like on like raya or like on dm or what no no no i mean if i mean if they're on raya yeah no i mean there are like a lot of people who are like ethically non-monogamous or whatever dr drew said that doesn't work i don't know what i mean who knows what works for anyone i don't know i mean i think i'm very wary of people who make blanket statements is what I would say.

1:09:03Busy Philipps:Yeah, I feel what I'm saying. Like everyone's everyone's different. I don't know if I've ever known it to work for anyone, but like maybe it does. I don't know. So I'm I'm open to whatever people are coming into your GMs. Well, it has happened. Yes. But I'm just saying I'm just saying you have to be single. OK. And I don't know. I like, you know, public person or non-public person, better or worse. It doesn't matter. I don't think I've ever really I mean, I don't know if I've really ever dated someone who's like public person maybe I don't know or sort of I guess I guess I have sort of I like actually never thought I had a type and now I realize like I do actually sort of have a type which is just like I like very intelligent men who are funny generally like have a good sense of humor and are creative and and I generally like men who are writers or who work like in this industry in my industry just for a lot of reasons but I think like I just you know I need to be able to do bits with them and they need to be a photographer that's not as important anymore I'm okay with it not of not having a photographer boyfriend or Instagram boyfriend or husband but you know I'm okay with that what does the next chapter of your life look like I don't know well like what Are you going to be concentrating on writing?

1:10:24Is it like more social? Like what's the cocktail?

1:10:27Busy Philipps:I think it's sort of every, I think I'm hopeful that I'm able to like continue doing lots of different things. We need another book. I think I need to write another book. Yeah, I've been working on some stuff. Yes, thank you. It was very successful. Were you like surprised or did you know it was going to be that successful? I felt like it was going to be really successful. Yeah, I feel like it's got to be very high up on the Amazon chart. So we need another book. Oh, that's nice. I mean, it's been so many years now. I definitely feel like I need to write another book. And I would like to do that.

1:10:55Busy Philipps:But I need to find the time for that. You know, really, Girls 5 of the reminded me how much I love acting. And so I'm very excited to, like, do some more acting. But I also am writing things for myself to star in. And then I have another movie that I'm working on that would be for myself to direct that I would not be in. you're good on a mic i do yes i mean we are sort of taking a break on the podcast for now just because for a myriad of reasons and i have the qvc plus talk show still so i'm filming some more episodes of that later this month and there'll be like holiday specials that'll be coming out soon and then i'm producing i'm one of the co-producers of this off-broadway play called Ginger Twinsies.

1:11:46Busy Philipps:That's a parody of The Parent Trap. It's really, really funny and wild and hilarious. For young or old, like, could you bring like your kids to it? No, it's like a little adult in tone, in nature. And I'm also one of the producers of an off-Broadway play at Playwrights Horizons called Nothing Can Take You From the Hand of God that starts previews October 2nd and stars is Jennifer Tulloch from Severance. It's a one woman show and it's really brilliant. She wrote it with this playwright, Frank Winters. That's like her writing partner. And I'm thrilled about that. So like I'm doing a lot of different things and I like them all.

1:12:27Busy Philipps:That's fine. I've got these kids, you know, demanding a lot from me. I thought I was going to be done at 15. No, honey. they just it just changes you know but like birdie just last weekend or the weekend before so she's i do like that my kids like get into old shows they really like old shows and so birdie's new old show is arrested development oh it's a great show and so we literally spent like hours on the sofa you know like there's that too like it's like you just get to hang with your kid and it's like a great hang she's fun she's funny we postmated some food we're watching Arrested Development.

1:13:05Busy Philipps:It's a special chapter. Yeah it's really nice there's like a lot of times there's like the complicated hard stuff and then also you get like that stuff which is great. Busy Phillips thank you for coming on the show where can everyone find you where can everyone if they can live stream it check out what you're doing with Dawson's Creek. Yes. Yes. I mean, check the socials for all the information on that. And then the QVC Plus talk show. You can watch all the episodes on QVC Plus. It's called Busy This Week. And we have like incredible we've had incredible guests. I mean, David Letterman and Rosie O'Donnell.

1:13:45Busy Philipps:And I mean, I'm hopeful that Oprah will come on at some point. I just got to get Oprah on. Let's manifest it. Yes, let's manifest that. You could buy everything on the... Yeah, like it's sort of like we don't sell stuff outright on the show. But like, yeah, like a lot of the stuff that you see, you can buy. I always am wearing stuff that's available on QVC. Smart. And yeah, it's cool. It's actually like really the most fun and I love it so much and they've been wonderful partners. So thank you for diagnosing me with ADHD on the show. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. I'm going to go down a rabbit hole.

1:14:17Thank you for coming on. Yeah, thanks guys. It was so great to talk to you.

1:14:20Busy Philipps:That was fun. They're so sweet.