Celebrity Trainer Sandy Brockman On Body Composition Secrets, Building Strength That Lasts, Mastering The Basics, & The Power Of Corrective Movement

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35:11You're just going to tell everybody, you're going to tell me like oh i just have this so i can't do this well i'm not going to put up with that yeah you know you sent michael straight to the physical therapist oh yeah yeah we weren't doing that you sent me straight to the foot spot again mike on my back yeah i'm not doing that what are the type of clients you take on typically and like what's what are you looking for and what's what's a pass from you well okay what's interesting for me as a trainer because i know i'm going to say it for you you're selective about who you take on well that's just because of time now is like really um but um okay this is this will be interesting y 'all as a trainer so when I first started training people I wanted to be like the athletic trainer I wanted to train the athletes right I can say when you can't where you're not a good athlete you're a strength and conditioning coach y 'all know what I mean so uh you become a strength and conditioning coach uh but no but I wanted so I thought that would be my career that's who I thought but but what happens if you really care.

36:06And what you notice is the people that need you the most are the hardest cases. So what I used to find very uninteresting in my training people would be like, let's say I took a 65 year old woman who had bad patterning and had a bad back and I would just start her on box squats. You know, she doesn't have to be anybody like a big deal. I find those cases the most interesting now. The more screwed up you are in the older, I find it very interesting because now I've got to work and I've got to solve I can put an athlete anywhere they can do anything and if they're in their 20s they're made of plastic and glitter and nothing hurts you know what I mean I'm worried why you took me on oh my god no no not that you're the 65 year old woman to this but you do y 'all are actually perfect candidates because you're in midlife you're busy with kids so right now you would set really wacky patterning you would grab the kids and hurt your back and hold it like this all the time, you know, and you wouldn't think about like how to hold your posture.

37:06So right now is like the perfect timing for you guys to make sure that when you're in your fifties, like me, then you're, you won't have to worry about injuries. That's what I want for y 'all. I do not want you to be, I want y 'all to be having so much fun in your fifties. Like I am, I move great. I feel great. And like, that's how we all should be. But it starts in earlier decades. And not that you can't do it in your fifties. Cause you can, you can't you have to just start no i think about this all the time and i've told brent who we train with as well here and i've told you like for me like the most important thing like i like i've only so when we had zaza we were living in la i was not in shape i'm not going to speak for lauren why and why because i'm not going to do that what the fuck does that mean what do you mean you're not going to speak for me like well what do you mean you weren't as you weren't let's just say you weren't training as much as you are now oh y 'all do this on the show and uh yeah and and And what I really, like, my motivation at the time, my motivation at the time was I needed to be in shape as a father to be able to deal with all the things.

38:06Because what I, okay. And so since then I've focused a lot on getting in shape and I would say I'm not the most in shape, but I'm in pretty good shape. You're in great shape. So, but, um, but I think about this all the time. I'm like, I can't imagine how much harder parenting would be for me specifically. Yes. Maybe for others, but for me, if I was out of shape or if I was catching my breath, if I wasn't strong, especially with three small kids, because it's a lot of physical work. It's getting up, it's going up and down stairs. Can I tell you something wild that you might not believe, but there are people in this world, y 'all, and they worry me the most.

38:39They're so disassociated from their body. They don't even know when they're in pain. So they're picking up those kids and those are the ones in their 60s, 70s and 80s that cannot walk anymore because they really ignored any they never got in shape and they never had pain because they never even really locked in with their bodies you know what i mean and those are the ones that scare me the most yeah i mean but like the what i'm saying like the aesthetic outcome of getting in shape is great yes but the motivation is like what you're talking about not going into that and also like i'm exhausted michael we need you to be an asset not a liability with this family.

39:17We're going to need, there's a lot of young children. No, but I mean, and also this one is like, you know, she gets upstairs and gets comfortable in her bed. And as soon as that happens, it's like, I need you up. I go up and down the stairs probably 30 times a night. How many times? I love to be like, I know. And, you know, have you ever seen the stepmother in Cinderella? Yes. And the windows and the washing. And the kids. I want to talk about. But y 'all, you like that apparently because y 'all do it. Yeah, we're in it. I want to talk about what you just did with obey because obviously not everybody gets access to you and they're not with you and i'm wondering like i want you to talk about it because i thought it was interesting obviously like we made the announcement that dear media acquired obey and we're doing more and more on that platform and you are one of the first people that we partnered with and i want you to talk about kind of what you did there because it gives people access especially since you have such a select group of clients yes for everyone to be able to have access to you and have your exact workouts that we do is insane yes and so and that this is great and i know and i want to tell everybody i really didn't answer the question what you're exactly doing and i will tell you everybody at the end but obey is so exciting because it's literally meeting i feel like the obey app is very accessible for women um especially and men but yeah i mean for men no 100 but um i'm i'm like a i'm so i'm like a weird trainer because i can meet women in like really dingy dirty power lifting rooms.

40:42I've been there. Or I can meet them in a beautiful app by Obey done with all these beautiful colors and in a light box. And it's the same both things, right? So what I can do that all my teachings are always the same. Whether I'm in your living room and we just have a couple dumbbells or if I'm in a dirty gym with no AC and we've got barbells, my thought processes are the same. And that is what's the most efficient way we're going to get fit and not like in like a silly way, but like for real. So we're going to gain access. So in Obey app, I do correctives, meaning that we're not just going to strengthen the muscle.

41:26We're going to do something to start to be able to access the muscle. And that's where a lot of trainers like come behind. They're not, they're only going straight for the problem. They're not addressing three steps behind. It's hard to do, but in the Obey app, I've done it for each body part. You know, I've showed you how to access your glutes, how to start accessing your back. So, but you can do it like literally in your living room. And I'm leading it, which I never, like I'm a coach, just so everybody knows. Like I coach y 'all, but I rarely lead workouts. So it's pretty, I'm like talking the whole time and working out, which I'll never see because I'm always like standing over y 'all with my coffee and my cigarette.

42:06I think that when we had you on the podcast last time, everyone wanted access to your workouts. Yes. And yes, we could get access to all of your secrets and tips and tricks, but we also wanted to actually see you working out in action. So to have that information now. Yes. You did three levels. So somebody who's beginning and has never done weightlifting, they can jump in. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then advance. Yeah. And what's great about it is it'll all come back to the same patterning. Again, it's just repatterning. Right. Can anyone pick up and do this program? Doesn't matter who they are. Yeah, I think so.

42:39I mean, you can do it definitely literally with no dumbbells. I mean, to repattern your body and get it strong, you're going to just have to start. You're going to have to start and just do the movements like I'm telling you on the Obey app. do the correctives they're not like a so just so everybody knows correctives my correctives are not like oh i should maybe do them because they're a stretch no they're part of the workout they're not even that's not even like um it's a non-negotiable it's a non-negotiable if you really want to make a difference so so it's a six-week progressive strength uh-huh okay yeah and it's upper and lower and you will get stronger doing it it's not 100 and uh what i the thing is is now that you've got access through the correctives, you'll get stronger and you can decide your weight.

43:25You know, I don't ask you to choose weights in there because we're doing strength training. We're not in cardio land. And I do express when I'm just filming obey, when I tell, I say straight to the camera, I'm not usually this out of breath when I'm strength training. So you take a break if you need to, because we're not doing cardio. We're doing, we're trying to get stronger. Let me ask you this. If I was doing this program as me, what would you give me for a weight i would love for you to do this program um well depending on what is it what are we doing are we doing like curtsy lunges are we doing squats squats what is like where does the program take you through does it like start upper lower like how does it how so the first yeah it starts with upper and lower okay and then and then you progress at six weeks and then um so i taped a total of uh three and three upper three lower and then i did a conditioning unit.

44:18And is this the exact workouts you do with me and Michael? I mean, they're yet. Yes. Because why? My system never changes. So yes, they're doing back squats. They're doing, you know, I'm having a back rack if they can on their dumbbells. I'm having them try to load. I'm doing all the things that we do because everything I do is the same with everybody. It's designed to be done from home or when you're traveling. So you can get a workout. And if like, if Lauren and I are traveling, you're not there, we could do this. Yes. Yes. And it'll feel very familiar. But yeah. So and again, I love barbell.

44:47Everyone knows I love barbell because it puts weight over your spine and it does a lot of magical, beautiful things all at once. But not everybody has that. What do you think people can expect? Like, say there's a woman, she's 30 years old. Maybe she's had one kid. What can she expect from doing your program? What do you think she'll expect to get smarter? That's what she can expect. So she's not just doing another workout. out it's not just another rah rah rah I am telling you through Sandy Science of doing this for so long why we're doing this how to do it how this changes it start I trying to give people wisdom of what this changes the changing the pattering because I feel like if I give you the if I give you the keys to your car which I'm trying to give y 'all I'm trying to give you your the own keys to your car.

45:35So, and you one day, and it might take, look, everyone has different neural adaptions, right? You've worked out longer with weights than Lauren. So your neural adaptions and your mind muscle connections, a little bit, training age is a little higher than Lauren's, right? Stuff like that. But everyone's neural, but one day you could be doing that workout and you could be doing it and something clicks and you're like, oh wait, I just felt my back muscles. And that click can move to the next thing and the next thing you know what i mean for now everybody i'm giving you keys i'm just starting giving you keys and so i do that in the obey app i start to talk you through why we're doing it and when you talk someone through it if they're not disassociating i can associate and they're focusing they'll feel it i get a little disassociated once you i know i know but once you feel it it's like that's the shit right there when people lock in well listen i mean part of the reason we always love talking to you but we want to give people access to you we've been training with you.

46:32Lauren's really been focused. So you said, and I want to know what you mean by this. You said we can all starve ourselves and have abs, but can you feed yourself and have an ass? Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's a quote from you. Yes. I know. Put it. Sounds like a, somebody get me a t-shirt company. I have so many good. Yeah. You got to put that on like a knit. What are those things called? Put it on your pillow. A needle point. A needle point. Exactly. Okay. Okay. So this is what's going on. I don't know how we're living in a world right now. where strength training is like really popular and women are like, yeah, I want to have a, like a strong body.

47:05And then we also have Ozempic, right? So we're living in a really like strange dual world right now. Um, but what, okay. What people admire and, and they, they covet is abs. Okay. If you know, if you're, if you're a strength and conditioning coach, you understand that abs are so easy. Abs are just diet. That's the easiest thing. Controlling food is the easiest thing. Having an ass is a lot of work. So when, when everyone's got their waist trainers on, or they're showing me their abs in the pictures, I'm like, cool. I could starve for three days and have those abs too. Right. But, uh, and I'm not putting down abs.

47:45Don't get me wrong. I'm not anti-ab. You're just saying ass is what I'm saying. If I'm going to, if I've got a higher prize, the abs, I mean, I hate to break it to everybody. It's just starving yourself literally to see that that layer and then it's the backside that really matters so remember we always talk about the back is for go and the front is for show so if you're starving yourself to have those abs you're probably and that's all i see in your pictures if that's all i see in your instagram pictures then i know there's no ass going on and if no ass is going on i know your hormones are fucked up i know your back is fucked up there's a lot of stuff i know and i'm not judging on aesthetics why is the hormone fucked up because you're just not well because you're not storing you remember your hips are like a place that hormone like you're going to want your hormones you're going to want to have they're the biggest muscle group on your body the more muscle you have the more your hormones are regulated from just having that muscle now there's all this intricate science of how that works but your glutes are the biggest muscle on your body and you want them to they they alone will start to get your hormones right but if you have no glutes, it shows me like your hormones are fucked up.

48:56Like honestly. So we need to be showing our buttholes on our Instagram. So show me your butt. Don't filter it. No body filters here. We're not doing that. We don't need to do that. But just start showing me like less abs, more ass. Because if you want to know someone who's in the business, we're going to that's much more respected. You know, like I don't know what's going on in Hollywood. I don't know like how to act or whatever you know what i mean but like there's people having backroom conversations that y 'all know the general public doesn't know about and it's like we all lauren and i have those we don't we just don't tell the general and i'm not but it's not putting people down just saying like oh yeah they got their abs like but like they have no but and i'm don't want people to be in those conversations i don't want your name anyone's name i know to come up in those conversations do i leave the gym and everyone's like there goes flat ass no no you're looking great michael and you're so if we're going to talk about michael and like also men and obey oh michael's favorite subject don't even need my note cards for this part really takes a hit we can talk about michael let's go let's go no but no but you're so what's crazy okay so if your perfect formula is strength training is the bulk of your workouts a week with an athletic day meaning we're we're keeping in all our practices of jumping running being athletic um and then we've got a mobility day right so we've been doing people evolve and evolve has been great yeah and stability obey for strength training yeah athletic day my kids come so they can see us working out and i make you play basketball one-on-one on each other just to like dribble i know the kids love it i know they are so athletic but um okay so but michael has a different goal so you are a male who wants to like look like you have you're strong you're athletic get some blood flowing you yeah yeah You want to have less blood flowing, actually.

50:44We can slow down on these kids. I can't. Y 'all are so scary. No, I'm just kidding. Like in the best way. Y 'all, if you get pregnant again. Oh, my God. I think you got me pregnant last night. What? It's all that ass work. It's all that ass work, Sandy. Oh, I know. That's a pro. Listen. Okay, y 'all. On my app thing, there's like 15 women that have gotten pregnant. On it. Like we have people that we get. And I'm like, I'm not saying anything. but what i'm saying is like i'm just doing probably you probably get thank you notes from the husbands think about the mobility alone yeah i've got a woman doing a full depth squat now over your uh you're welcome the thrust yeah you're welcome you're welcome and i grow your husband's glutes and get him open hips and strong hips no they're i was creeping away last night she's like let me look at your legs i was like oh i know i know well so anyway so it's like it's it's jarring i've never seen it like that i digress all right let's not get into our stuff but let's just be honest let's go back to michael we got our butt but my goal yes my goal is that to be athletic to have an athletic build yeah to have the right but for me like a lot of the stuff we're doing is obviously i want the right movement patterning yes right so for you and um and males have slightly different movement pattern meaning like we do want you to have upper traps and we do have a bigger quad suite for you it's that you know just for the aesthetic look and how your clothes are designed alone remember and i want y 'all to have glutes because the seam on that those athletic shorts have to be popping i do not want to see men walking around with that seam all caved in on the side that seam needs to be popped the seam needs to be popping the seam needs to be semen on the outside of men's shorts or don't start with me by the way the best clothes that we all agree on are as rv yes and that seam on those men's pants if you want your seam popping go get some asrb tan and pop the seam with the ass yeah that's hot no it just goes that we're partners in that business but uh also it is the best athletic wear yeah i'm not just saying that no i know we originally invested because i just like you could tell jay over there who runs that business like it's somebody who lifts and understands the gym and has a good eye for design but also aesthetically and it's all great but functionally yeah he knows what he's doing to design athletic clothing are like in the right place it's vented correctly okay so you want it you want it popping so okay so men so men um so what your goal is is like you've got to keep mass on you you lose mass very easily you gain muscle easily and you lose it easily so you're one of those people that's like um you can either be really really thin hybrid people or yeah you can call it that exactly but for you eating is really important we talk about that a lot.

53:30Just keeping that protein and more calories is going to be important for you to maintain muscle mass. Now, what we do on top of that, like that's where you and I always negotiate, how much do you like to weigh as a male, but you still feel mobile and athletic? And that's where I, with men, I understand because you don't want to be one of those big bound up men, again, bad patterning with the bound up men, you know what I mean? Like, and they're walking around like this, like you don't want to be that. Like a meatball. Yeah. They're like a big meatball. yeah so like i feel like um that i mean so i want men to be able to still move it's really important especially like going back to your point of like being an asset not a liability to your family as a man you want to be you don't want to like get up and like your knee goes out you know you have to be able to move you have to be able to jump you have to be able to run i mean i was watching like peter atia who's been on this show he was just doing this thing on 60 minutes which was awesome but he was talking about like how the cliff for a lot of people men and women is like 75 and if you don't do the things like we're talking about the patterning yeah like it's a cliff that you just fall off of and you know like my dad's getting older unfortunately he works out and he trains and he's still like doing all the things with kettlebells and all that yeah but i see a lot of his friends that are getting older and it's it's right like peter's right it's like a cliff like it's like a cliff they can't walk like there's and then it's so sad because that's when they have grandkids and they need to be able to move yeah and so you know like one of my big fears and i think this just comes with age and what i was saying to the younger people earlier is what i've been decent at in my life is looking at that and being like oh that will be me in 30 40 years if i don't do the things and i think sometimes when you're young you're just like oh i'm gonna be young forever yeah yeah that's what you think yeah i know but like again back to the point like i feel like when you're in your 20s you feel like i can fuck up for so long because i've got this whole decade to fuck up but you're you really shouldn't like you should take it you should do your mobility you should like start doing it now seems like an old person thing but it's a young person thing no it's it's the same thing i think about like sometimes i'll do episodes on personal finance and one thing i learned under learning about money is that it is really easy to become a millionaire if you start investing little amounts in your 20s it is really really difficult no but it's really really difficult to become a millionaire if you start investing and saving in your 40s and 50s oh 100 yeah like it's the same with your body like the effort that's required in your 20s because you have the time yeah it's almost like no effort yeah the effort to do that in your 40s and 50s is a shitload of effort same thing with working there's an old saying and it'll go for that and training and that is if you get on the wrong train for too long it's real expensive to get it back on track and that's how i feel like same way about training it's real expensive to get it now you're dealing with me and i'm not cheap you know we're dealing and if we if if people will start understanding that the faster they get on the the understanding that mobility matters um getting under a barbell matters getting under dumbbells matter just start not just thinking about like a random workout all the time you need to start thinking about how am i moving where am i growing my body and is that how i want to look in 30 years why are so many women's workouts laying down oh link i don't know women love to lay down and do the Pilates and they love to lay down and do the hip thrusters.

57:01And what I hate and they love, women are always laying down everywhere. Every, all the classes, everyone's laying down. And if they're not laying down, they're getting up and like jumping, like hopping, hopping, which is, I mean, you need to jump a little bit, but like these, these are their two levels or hopping or they're laying down. And what happens is why women lose their bone density. I mean besides hormone stuff and all that is because they never have weight bearing on them They're just doing body weight like constantly, you know what I mean or like really tiny weights So that's why I like y 'all to have weight over your spine to like start to strengthen your spine So I feel like the one disservice for women is that they never they are so worried about their bone density and like that They need to be strong, but they never actually everything they're doing is like laying down and doesn't use gravity as even an assistor.

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1:04:14Like I want you to feel that muscle. So you're like, you just turn the mirror like back inside of you. And you're like, and I tell you like, Lauren and Michael, I want you to do these reverse lunges. And I want you to use your glute max as your primary mover. I'm saying so many words to y 'all, right? Glute max is your primary mover. Now you have to turn your eyeballs inside and say, where's my glute max? And now you have to see that muscle. I know where it is. And you have to use it. Yes. Use Tommy. Yeah. So that's when I want you to go heavy is when you're like cool on everything. And you're like, okay, let's just grind this.

1:04:47Let's stress this muscle that she wants me to stress. Not everything else. What do you want your legacy to be with training? I want my legacy to be that I have learned so much. most women don't stay in the game as long as i've been in this game right they really don't man's world it's a man you have no idea the the hell i've seen it's another show but i'm just kidding uh no but but honestly because it's it's really i love being a personal trainer how long have you been doing this i've been doing it for over 20 years like but let's just say it this way since i'm 15 i've been coaching i've been teaching my parents how to move i've been i've been really interested in, I'm so, I'm so in love with the human body.

1:05:32I think it's so fucking cool. I think people that understand the body to me are like, it's, it's next worldly. You know what I mean? Because the body's your vehicle that carries you through this world forever. You only get one body. And I think it's so interesting. So since I'm 15, I'm looking at people, I'm wondering like how, you know, we can change. So, but I've been, I mean, more than 20 years, probably 25. oh how old am I yeah like probably at least 25 years but um my legacy would be that I fucked up a lot and I did a bunch of stupid shit but I but I learned from it and instead of and instead of just taking what I my toys and running away and keeping it for myself I want to share with everybody what I don't want to gatekeep this because I understand how it works now but it took me a long time to understand that what's my body gonna look like oh brother let's round it out after I lose 30 pounds um oh my god body yaddy yaddy y 'all what you don't know is that Lauren has like fucking like slim fucking slim thick like thin like your hip bones are like narrow your ass is popping oh my god I'm excited the ass can I say that yeah go for it no oh my god The ass is big right now.

1:06:49It is. I love it because I've got so much to work with. It reminds me in the olden days when those women used to wear those bustle. Those bustles for the butt. I have like a bustle right now. And that was one of the reasons is because all we did was open your hips. And once your hips opened, because you do have narrow, like a little narrower hip bones, your butt went like shot straight up. You know those toys that the kids pop the thing out? yeah you can get them at the gas station yeah yeah that's what you did to my yeah that's like what i did but imagine that if you hadn't done the if you were like i just got to start working out da da da and you went straight and you skipped the correctives or the mobility yeah you would have never gotten that result no it's been great yeah if you guys are in austin and you want to contact sandy she's on instagram yes i'm on sandy brockman fitness and then if you also want to work out with our other trainer brent bodies by brent you can work out with both of them in austin if they have availability.

1:07:46Yeah, that's, yeah. But if they don't, and you really don't. Yes, I really don't right now. No, you don't. I've seen you have to turn my people away. I think that's why we are so excited that you've joined the Obey platform because people can literally go travel with you. I'm going to use the app whenever I'm in LA. They're going to hear me talking for 30 minutes straight. Yeah, there's like, there's a ton of great stuff on there. But again, guys, like Dear Media made this acquisition over this year with Obey. It's an incredible platform and we have a 30-day free trial for everyone. So again, no risk.

1:08:16And just use code SKINNY and you can check out Sandy's program. What's it called? It's the Strength Collective. Collective, yes. The six-week progressive strength plan. Also check out those ASRV clothing because it's cool. I really like those. Well, they just launched women's clothing. They never did it before. It was only men. So I was just telling myself. So if someone wants to go sign up, they can go to obeyfitness.com for the 30-day free trial. And what are they going to find on there? It's called the Strength Collective. Tell us exactly what they're going to get. Okay, so you're going to get a six-week program that has basically, it'll progress you to the first two weeks and then the second two weeks and then the third two weeks.

1:08:52So the first is going to be, you're gonna do the same workouts for two weeks because I am not into random shit. You gotta do the same, you know how y 'all have to do the same stuff. So the first two weeks, y 'all are gonna do the same workouts, upper, lower. Then you're gonna move to intermediate and then weeks four and five, or excuse me, three and four, you'll do intermediate. it. You'll do one week and it's the same workout the next week. And then the last two weeks, you'll move to the advanced and then you'll do two weeks straight of that. So six weeks is what I asked for from Obey because that gives me just enough time to make a difference in someone's body.

1:09:27Four weeks, like I feel like it's too fast. So they gave me this luxury of six weeks and they're going to find some correctives that no one's seen before of mine, which is really cool that no one's seen and they're going to see me talking you through the movements just like I'm with y 'all exactly how I talk to y 'all and they'll see how I train you. And guys, we've talked about Obey Fitness on this podcast before but if you're new to it, it's basically, it's an app that you can do right from your own home or hotel and you can basically do an assortment of different workouts, work out with Sandy.

1:09:58But if you don't want to spend any money, like let's say you're listening and you're like, fuck, I don't want to spend any money. You get 30-day free trial. That's cool. So my thing is every single person go sign up at obeyfitness.com and use code skinny because you literally get access to Sandy for 30 days for free. You'll learn so much. Like I promise, like I even got sick of myself talking. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I hear you talking every day. In the best way. Like I was like, I was throwing out, like you're going to learn so much. And again, you're going to, um, I'm going to be preaching the basics to you.

1:10:33The basics are what matter. We don't even go into anything fancy until we master the basics and then once we master this six weeks then let's see you know then we're gonna we're also doing waist to hip ratio on there meaning you're gonna measure at the beginning of your six week your waist hip ratio and then we're gonna do a remeasure at the end which is exciting and also like this is a good one to send to your friends your family like your mom i think it's really accessible like really you can really do it in your living room you just get like a bench and a couple dumbbells like everybody has that i think it's good too for people like you know um i mentioned my dad earlier and a few years ago i got him back into strength training mom i know you're listening to this and i want my mom to start like yes i think there's there's a lot of women in particular that have never been introduced to strength training i'm not trying to be sexist but it's true like it's been it has been a man's game um and i think it's exciting for me to watch because i mean you've been doing this for forever but lauren over the last four or five years now like this was the first introduction to start strengthening like her whole life she never did it and i think that's that's a story for a lot of women they just you just don't get introduced like i know my sisters for sure didn't get introduced to it till later well and like and i'm saying it's a weird world because we're living where these 20 year olds are going to the gym and they're doing strength training and then we have a world where girls are not eating and they're getting very very thin so it's like i pray that the strength training is will overcome that thinness you know what it is though too i think sometimes like i think because you're a woman who strength trains and understands a woman's body you introducing this to women is different sometimes than a man yeah yeah like not that there's wrong men can do it yeah but i just think that like i know you know as lauren's postpartum like she's more comfortable doing this with you yeah no i think that's a thing i mean i think like um it's it with i i like to go to a woman sometimes you know what i mean just like a man likes to go to a man for certain things sometimes it sometimes like no offense men but if I want to get the straight shit I got old well I think when you're postpartum too yeah I like sometimes I think it's good for a woman when you're postpartum to switch to a to a woman for a while because they understand yeah and I will no I mean yes exactly and especially postpartum yeah I will say that you and Brent and whoever I've been around that that recommends strength training has really changed my relationship with food and how I feel about my body.

1:12:57I wasn't scared to get pregnant this time because I know with lifting and strength training that it comes off. And there was something really liberating about that for me because for so long, I felt like I had to eat less to get to my goal. And also when you strength train and you're eating protein, you know the protein is going to build muscle synthesis. And so you're not as scared of food either. Yeah, I'm not scared of good that's so good that's what i want that's what i want because you know how it is i mean that's really the thing your body's gonna if you if a pound a pound of like muscle compared to a pound of fat like if a girl really could see that what that looks like on your body like it you know they say toning's not a thing but like a pound of like tight muscle versus like a pound of fat is like you could swap 10 pounds for 10 pounds i feel like it would look so much better no but do you know what's your body so i was watching um i was watching a video of this i won't say who the guy was the other day and he was what and he's really in shape he's got a lot of muscle and he was eating and if you were to like show what he was eating to some of the health people that come on the show they'd be freaked out but i think people that weight train and build muscle know yeah like you can get away with eating sometimes some of these like quote-unquote unhealthy foods because your body just needs the fuel i mean that's why i want y 'all to get to maintenance as soon as possible because everyone's like don't have a drink don't have a drink it's okay to have a drink every once in a while like so like once you get you know what i mean like for a while you'll like get you'll have to fight for that we had a couple drinks the other night but here's the thing you you work out with me enough i'm in i'm in decent i'm in decent enough shape but like tonight i will go and i will eat whatever i want in the restaurant i'll have drinks and i won't worry about it at all because i know that i'm doing the workouts and building muscle there so i don't have to worry about that going to bad places and i think like what the problem is is like girls are just trained to worry about calories so much these calories and that calories and if they understood that you're let's go back to the eating if you you you eat every three hours your body like becomes like a with muscle on it becomes like a furnace not it's not like you're literally hot but it burns up the calories so if they understood how inefficient it was to just count calories just make your body the machine the calorie burning machine and you never have to really work just don't be an asshole right like don't eat like horrible but like you eat pretty good 80 20 yeah and you're good for the rest of your life we ate duck hearts well you didn't eat it just i know i did at p-volve i know that was wild yeah they were frozen or not frozen they're good they looked frozen they were they look so good yeah she cooked them really seasons them really well um we are going tonight yes to walk downstairs to the kimberly and we're gonna have have you had their you got to try their beef what is it beef tallow there y 'all beef tallow okay i'm gonna try no not beef tallow what is it called bone marrow bone marrow oh yeah yeah i will i will i can't wait that's good for you i'll eat that yeah and i'm not gonna have six margaritas oh my god the last time we went out i was done no margarita gang yeah that's the text thread no it was because y 'all went for the third margarita no i don't even no i'm my new drink i sat back and I was like, y 'all are...

1:16:03Lauren's move... I was cross-eyed at the first margarita, I swear to God. Lauren's move at the table every time is like everybody will be on like the moon. Yes. And she'll look with like a cross-eye at the waitress or waiter and she'll say, we'll have another round. I like to have fun. I never go out. Cross-eyed at the end. Yeah, but then everyone's like on the floor of the bar. We can't do anymore. You know what my new drink is? You are Brad's son. Yeah, I'm Brad's son. Oh, I mean son, daughter. Brad? You're Brad's daughter. I can imagine Brad would be like, let's, hey, nobody brought over some elk, posoli and cornbread from Moose Farms at the Farmer's Market, Barton Creek for you.

1:16:40Oh my God. Okay. And my new drink, just so everyone knows, is a tequila, like an astral tequila, Blanco on ice, lots of ice in a tall glass with a side of Pellegrino yeah or a perrier if they don't have it that sounds good and a shot of fresh lime juice that's amazing that's the new drink okay that's it last time and no headaches i'm petrified of she's like oh wait till we get home buddy you're gonna get a good one and this thing i know she's like just oh my god do that third margarita will take you into outer space yeah i told you i used to know that guy and he would he was like super creepy and his main question to all the girls was like, how many margaritas does it take to get you drunk?

1:17:23I was like, oh, gross. I was like, why? Why do you need to know that? Sandy, everyone go follow her Instagram at Sandy Brockman. I'm a huge fan. She always responds to DMs. Definitely. You guys go get that free 30 day trial. Obeyfitness.com code skinny. And the clothing company I was talking about is ASRV.com. Yeah. They just they just launched women's clothing so they never did that before and i really like them i really like them yeah thank you all right bye okay bye