In short
Cellular aging and “cellular dysregulation” driving brain fog, inflammation, hormone dysfunction, and earlier chronic disease; how to slow it using sleep/fasting timing, light/dark circadian cues, toxin reduction, and nervous-system regulation (stress/trauma/spiritual connection).
Key claims
A Stanford 2023 study (published 2023) says 1 in 5 Americans over 50 have at least one organ aging faster than the rest; faster brain-cell aging is linked to 80% higher risk of neurodegenerative issues, and faster heart-cell aging to 200%+ higher risk of heart attack/stroke/heart failure. A Nature study (this summer) claims people born after 1965 age more rapidly than earlier cohorts, with millennials/90s births worst. Mechanism proposed: “cell danger response” and neuroinflammation; cells “forget” identity (X differentiation).
Notable examples
chronobiology (eating too late), autophagy/mitophagy during sleep, “dirty light”/blue light timing, mold/mycotoxins potentially worsened by EMF exposure, and stress-induced dysbiosis/leaky gut.
Guests
Dr. Will Cole—functional medicine expert, New York Times bestselling author, host of The Art of Being Well (Dear Media), recurring guest on The BossDix. Co-guest/mentioned collaborator: Dr. Josh Axe (co-author of Heal Your Cells).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWellness and Balance in Life
0:45 to 2:06
Discussion on the balance between wellness habits and indulgence.
“sometimes I'll smoke a cigar and sometimes I'll have some alcohol.”
The Show's Journey and History
2:06 to 2:40
Recap of the show's history and Dr. Will Cole's frequent appearances.
“Wait, how long have you guys had this show?”
Cellular Aging and Its Impact
2:40 to 4:39
Dr. Will Cole explains the concept of cellular aging and its risks.
“I'm talking about in the new book called Heal Your Cells that I wrote with my friend and colleague, Dr.”
Factors Affecting Cellular Health
4:39 to 9:30
Exploration of various factors contributing to cellular dysfunction.
“I mean, everyone knows what cells are, but explain how you guys got so fascinated with cells and what cellular aging really is and why it occurs.”
Personal Journey Through Grief and Healing
9:30 to 11:49
Dr. Cole shares his personal experience with grief and the need for healing.
“And the cell danger response is this ancient mechanism that's meant to protect us.”
Prioritizing Mental Health and Self-Care
11:49 to 14:00
Insights on prioritizing mental health amid personal and professional demands.
“like, okay, that was the area I needed to focus on that made my cells feel unsafe.”
Navigating Burnout and Finding Joy
14:00 to 14:40
Learn about the importance of recognizing burnout even in jobs you love and the joy of missing out.
“And it's like, you have to get out there.”
Practices for Nervous System Regulation
14:40 to 15:30
Discover practical methods for nervous system regulation, including journaling and vagal nerve stimulation.
“So the underbelly of that burnout, you can still love what you do, but be burning the candle at both ends.”
Environmental Toxins Impacting Health
15:30 to 17:20
Uncover the most common environmental toxins affecting health and how they relate to modern lifestyles.
“Why do I never get access to this stuff?”
Addressing Health Overwhelm
17:20 to 18:50
Understand the importance of consistency in health practices and managing overwhelm when making changes.
“and then some mental, emotional, spiritual piece.”
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The Need for Clear Health Information
18:50 to 21:30
Discuss the frustrations around health advice and the necessity of providing clear information without caveats.
“You know what kind of annoys me these days?”
Practical Tips for Reducing Toxin Exposure
21:30 to 23:50
Gain insights on practical steps to reduce exposure to environmental toxins in daily life.
“even us, we can't do every single thing, maybe all at once, but it's something to strive for and be aware of.”
Healthy Product Recommendations
23:50 to 25:20
Get recommendations for non-toxic kitchenware and personal care products that support health.
“the confusion is the most obvious with autoimmunity when the immune system is attacking certain parts of the body.”
Alcohol and Personal Choices
25:20 to 26:40
Explore the relationship between alcohol and health, and the importance of personal choice without societal pressure.
“I mean, so I kind of rotate between these powerhouse women who I all know and love and kind of mix and match with that.”
The Impact of Chronic Stress on Health
26:40 to 28:00
Understand how chronic stress affects cellular health and overall well-being, and how to mitigate it.
“And that was going to be the next thing I wanted to jump to.”
Cell Membrane Health and Stress
28:00 to 29:10
Explore how stress affects cell membranes and overall health.
“itself, life happens on the cell membrane.”
The Impact of Childhood Trauma
29:10 to 30:40
Understand how childhood experiences influence adult health risks.
“neurotransmitters, that breakdown of those neurotransmitters and hormones adds stress as well.”
The Need for Mindfulness and Meditation
30:40 to 32:50
Discuss the importance of meditation for managing stress and health.
“Like heavy stuff, sexual abuse growing up, physical abuse growing up, neglect growing up.”
Spiritual Connection and Well-being
32:50 to 37:50
Learn how spiritual practices can improve resilience and health.
“What would your response have been then?”
Resilience in Modern Culture
37:50 to 39:40
Examine the lack of resilience in society and its implications.
“Like, it's the frequency from the earth.”
Alternative Healing Practices
39:40 to 41:56
Discover the benefits of holistic practices like cranial sacral therapy.
“I've never met anyone on this show or somebody who is happy in life or that is doing well in life with their family or their friends or their business that is spending time trying to tear down other people.”
Alternative Healing Practices
43:08 to 44:37
Discover the benefits of holistic practices like cranial sacral therapy.
“We take it ourselves, we give it to our children, we even give it to our pets.”
Alternative Healing Practices
44:43 to 46:04
Discover the benefits of holistic practices like cranial sacral therapy.
“The best of the best probiotic powder formulation is OmniBiotic.”
EMF and Cellular Health
46:15 to 54:57
Discuss the impact of EMF on cellular health and methods to protect against it.
“It's another thing that makes our cells feel unsafe because our body is electric.”
EMF and Cellular Health
56:00 to 56:58
Discuss the impact of EMF on cellular health and methods to protect against it.
“And this for me is everything when it comes to travel.”
Digital Boundaries and Wellness
57:02 to 1:01:12
Explore the conversation around setting boundaries with technology and maintaining wellness.
“Um, but yeah, it's, it's one of those things that I am on it too much.”
Gut Health and Aging
1:01:12 to 1:02:12
Understand the importance of gut health and cellular repair in the aging process.
“back to resilience, actually help upregulate these cellular repair mechanisms like autophagy.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Dr. Will Cole:Welcome back to The BossDix. If you have been listening for some time to our show, you already know Dr. Will Cole. He's a functional medicine expert, New York Times bestselling author, and the host of The Art of Being Well on the Dear Media Network. He is also Gwyneth Paltrow approved. He is not messing around when it comes to exhaustion, inflammation, hormone dysfunction, and symptoms. You are going to learn how to cut through the wellness noise in this episode. let's welcome our friend, Dr. Will Cole, back to the Bostics. You know, we've done this show for a long time. We're really into these kind of topics.
0:34We're going to get all into cellular aging. We're into all of the things, the fringe things. We've tried all the, you know, we're always experimenting, taking care of ourselves, supplementing, all the stuff that we all like. And I say that because I was, the other day, I was, sometimes I'll smoke a cigar and sometimes I'll have some alcohol. And this woman -
0:52Dr. Will Cole:Sometimes you'll smoke a cigarette. this woman wrote into me and she's like how could you be doing these things and i was like listen i was like whoa whoa whoa i was like sometimes i drink sometimes i enjoy a cigar and sometimes i stay up past my bedtime like let's not get confused about like me enjoying drugs and but i think that people think like you know like that this wellness community has gotten so far into like the pockets of like peptides and wellness and soberly fine do your thing but like my message is it could be an 80-20, right? Like you can, you can sometimes let loose a little bit and you'll be fine if you're doing the consistent things most of the time.
1:30Yeah. The consistent foundation matters the most. I will say most, there's a certain percentage of people that the 80-20 doesn't work when they're looking to heal. Sure. Of course. But if you're an averagely healthy person, yeah, you have to find what that wiggle room and resilience that your body has. And there's so much bio-individuality. Yeah. I mean, like personally, like Lauren and I are in the gym four to five days a week. We're doing all that. We do all the things that we talk about on the show. And then once in a while, we'll go out with some friends and let loose. I think the reason being is like, we do all the things that we all discuss so that we can also do the other things.
2:03But I would be very bored if it was just all this stuff. Okay. Yeah. Let's wrap up. Wait, how long have you guys had this show? What year did you start it? March of 2016. Okay. I think it probably was on 17 or 18. You were on, we were pulling, you were on the earliest episode was episode like 280 or 238 or 283. One of the, we were looking it up. For nearly like 10 years probably. Yeah. You've been on, you probably are one of the most recurring guests with four. There's a few people that have got that number, but yeah. You need like a. A tally. A tally. Yeah. We just, we just got over a thousand episodes.
2:37So it's been a while. Congratulations. Thank you.
2:39Dr. Will Cole:Talk to us about brain fog. I'm talking about in the new book called Heal Your Cells that I wrote with my friend and colleague, Dr. Josh Axe, who's been on the pod before, on your pod before. We have an epidemic of cellular dysregulation going on. And one of the hallmark studies that we talk about in the book was a Stanford study. It was published in 2023. They found one in five Americans over the age of 50 have at least one organ aging more rapidly than the rest of their body. This uneven aging. and if the brain cells were aging more rapidly, they were at 80 % increased risk of some neurodegenerative issues like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's.
3:14If their heart cells were aging more rapidly, they were at over a 200 % increased risk of heart attack, stroke, heart failure. And they look at 11 different organs. They look at the liver, they look at many different things. That's even worse for younger people. There was a study published just this summer in Nature. They found that people born after 1965 and every decade after that are aging more rapidly than people born prior to 1965 at that same age. The worst was people, millennials, people born in the 90s are aging more rapidly than people born in 1965 at the same age. So we have this rapidity of cellular aging.
3:51That's why things like autoimmune problems are happening younger and younger. Girls are getting their periods younger and younger. Type 2 diabetes used to be called adult onset diabetes. Now 38 % of preteens are pre-diabetic. So why brain fog? It's because of this. The nervous system, the cells of the nervous system are dysregulated. They're stressed out. I mean, the guy Sinclair at Harvard, he talks about X differentiation. So we talk about in the book, but the brain cells forget to be a brain cell. So they're dysregulated or X differentiated. And that's when you have chronic health problems.
4:27So in short, systemically, it's neuroinflammation. It's inflammation of the nervous system. But it's actually not an organ problem. It's the cells that make up the organ that are all impacting each other.
4:39Dr. Will Cole:So how do we fix this? How do we fix ourselves? So maybe explain. I mean, everyone knows what cells are, but explain how you guys got so fascinated with cells and what cellular aging really is and why it occurs. Yeah. So in part, it's not just one thing. Right. So you have to look. Let me say this. This is based on research that we very well documented in the book. and is born out of tens of thousands of telehealth patients I've seen over the past 16 years. So this isn't just conjecture from my perspective. This is, I look at labs all day long. I see what moves the needle. So this is not, do I believe in it or not?
5:16This is what works, what doesn't, and the rest is just commentary from people on social media. So I'll break down the main things that are causing the cellular confusion where cells kind of lose recognition of self and they kind of lose their way. And all of this exists on a spectrum. Mild symptoms for some people, like mild brain fog, mild background anxiety, all the way to neurodegenerative problems. And that's just the brain, let alone the gut or the ovaries or your skin. It's every system of your body. So it's the foods we're eating and the foods we're not eating. So that's a piece of it. It's not just what we eat, it's when we eat.
5:53So researchers call a lot of these cellular dysfunctions or chronic health problems is chronobiological, meaning we're eating too many foods that don't love us back too often. So this idea of fasting, even if it's just fasting through the night, back to like optimizing sleep and not eating too late at night, because your cellular repair mechanisms like autophagy, where your cell actually renews itself and mitophagy where the mitochondria renew themselves, it's happening exponentially higher when you're sleeping. So to make sure we're really getting that sleep hygiene down well. So it's, back to what we eat when we eat light is the natural next one it is we're exposed to all of this dirty light too often it's throwing off our circadian rhythms dirty light did you hear that i'm gonna scream that in the kitchen dirty light dr oldson dirty light michael but you i want to say michael here is that i know you're trying to say michael i could tell blue light you actually you do need blue light in the morning.
6:52You do need it in the morning. It is just, we don't need it all day long. So yeah. I mean, it's, it's, you want to get outdoors in the real sunlight of the day, but my thing in the morning, again, I think where people are to your point about sleep hygiene, you will have poor sleep hygiene. If you wake up in dark settings and don't get light in your eyes. And then if you're the reverse of that, if you're just blasting yourself with light late at night, you're going to have bad, it's just not a good, it's not good for sleep. Sleep and light and dark. We need a healthy relationship with that because it's actually throwing off our cellular clocks.
7:25We have what's called the SCN part of the brain. It's the central nervous system clock that connects and communicates to our peripheral cellular clocks. So because we're scrolling on our phone too late at night, because we're not outside getting natural sunlight and seeing the dark, our cellular clocks have lost track of time and they're tick-tocking too fast and that's contributing to cellular aging. The next one would be environmental toxins, of course, herbicides, pesticides, microplastics, forever chemicals, heavy metals. And the next would be biotoxins. That's things like mold, bacteria, viruses.
7:58But I will say mold, toxic mold has never been healthy. I mean, the Bible talks about it. And Leviticus talks about burning the house down if you have mold. We have mold remediators now. We don't have to do that. But I think we're hearing about it more and more because of the EMF conversation. And there's in vitro cell studies that show this, that the mycotoxins, the mold releases more mycotoxins because of EMFs, because the electricity, the man-made polarized EMFs we're exposed to. Wow. So I think that's why people are in these sick homes more and more. It's just, yes, it's a mold, but it's a mold EMF storm and our cells are more permeable.
8:36Dr. Will Cole:So the mold is activated by the EMF from the electricity. Yeah. And then people are genetically, some people are more sensitive to mold than others. So there's nuance in context to that. But yes, it is a perfect storm. And then the last piece I will say is the mental, emotional, spiritual stuff. It's chronic stress, unresolved trauma, spiritual disconnection, a relationship with God and other people, our relationships and the tribalism that's there. So all of that stuff is what I mean to say is it's not just one thing and nor do you have to find out it'd be perfect in all of those things. But everyone has their own stubborn areas.
9:10For some people, they have the food down, but they're serving their body a big slice of stress and trauma every day. And they're not dealing with the mental, emotional, spiritual stuff. For some people, when you run labs, it's an environmental toxin piece and it has nothing to do with the foods that they ate. It has to do with something that they were exposed to when they were younger. There's bio-individuality to that. But we need all of that summarized with this. Our cells feel unsafe. So what's making our cells feel unsafe? And the cell danger response is this ancient mechanism that's meant to protect us.
9:41it cannot distinguish between physiological stress and psychological stress. So we have to find what's not loving our body back, what's making ourselves feel unsafe, and then start with that process of addressing it.
9:53Dr. Will Cole:How do you personally feel most in alignment? I would say simplicity, simplicity and sustainability, sustainability. Like what are something that I love so I can stay consistent with it that loves me back? It's not a source of dread or obsession or like this frenetic OCD tendency that I think is too rampant in our space. So it's eating foods like I eat pretty simply, meat, fruits, rice, some vegetables, fish. I mean, I eat clean. I have a gratitude practice in the morning. But for me, and I talk about in the book, I was doing all the basic wellness stuff. But in 2023, I think I told you guys this, I was obviously in the Dear Media family.
10:40My dad died suddenly in a car accident. And I had already been go, go, go for so long. You guys know, like running, doing all the things, right? And there was an eve of my book, fourth book, Got Feelings, that came out. And my dad was going to pick up my mom from the airport. It never made it. We don't know the details, but he lost consciousness in his car, had some cardiovascular event, autopsy, police reports, people saying. and he passed out, ran off the road full speed and died in a car accident. Never made it. So that was a, and my dad and I, I love my dad and he loved me, but we had this healing relationship that was complex, but was like the best it had ever been before he died.
11:22So it was wrestling with all those, like, why didn't I get more time with that guy that I was like, we were like really growing together. Um, so I, to answer your question, like what works for me, it was for me, all that stuff worked until it didn't. All the wellness stuff worked until it didn't. And I needed to deal with this burnout stress trauma piece that was like easy for me to give advice to telehealth patients. It's another thing for me to address. So that's an example there is like, okay, that was the area I needed to focus on that made my cells feel unsafe. So like leaning into therapy and EMDR and somatic practices and vagal nerve stimulation, the things we talk about in the book because that was my stubborn area that was the area that i needed to focus on and that around that same time in 2023 was when that whole gwyneth paltrow with the bone broth and the podcast drama so like the world didn't know like i was going through my dad just dying the book was coming out and then like the world was saying that we were gonna like killing people with disordered eating and fasting and that was intense i don't know if you remember that lauren with the when the clip went viral, the eating the bone broth.
12:29Dr. Will Cole:I don't understand how a clip on bone broth activates that many people. It activated people. It was like a thing. And it wasn't just like, ha ha funny. Some of it was, but it was like, you are wicked and you are hurting people and this is dangerous. You know, like. I mean, listen, anything in media between 2020 and 2024 was dicey. I mean, we do this show. We get plenty of flack for doing the show on a regular basis. this it's what we signed up for no problem but like also running dear media and having other shows yeah like that was one fire there's a lot of fires during that time is what i would tell you exactly it was like everything was people were suit you're right it was like just in the midst of covid everyone was just at home it had nothing better to do than just be keyboard warriors and then the press just loved it and i was just look on a normal day it wouldn't matter i could handle it but it was like i was stressing and already stressed out burnt out person i was like i just want to hide and go away.
13:25So like that's where the origins of heal yourselves came from, because I was like, I need to go beyond the basics and deal with these things that were keeping my cells on hypervigilant mode. My nervous system was hypervigilant.
13:35Dr. Will Cole:So how do you doing what you do, working with the clientele that you work with, with your podcast and all these different things you're doing, stop yourself and say, I need to heal. And what works out of all these things? It started that in 2023 when I Got Feelings came out. I kind of said no to a lot of things. You just stopped. Around the book, yeah. Just letting no be okay. And it was uncomfortable because it was like, you have to promote a book. And it's like, you have to get out there. And I did some of it, but it kind of helped too because it was still in the COVID-esque era. So you could do more remote.
14:10So it wasn't flying as much and traveling as much. it was yeah creating more spaces for stillness which is uncomfortable it doesn't come naturally to me because when you love what you do you can't you don't always recognize burnout it's easy when you have a you know a job you hate it's easy when you have a relationship you just like uh you have such inner resistance towards it i love what i get to do i love being a part of people's health journey. I love talking about it on the podcast. So the underbelly of that burnout, you can still love what you do, but be burning the candle at both ends. So for me, it was just like saying no and being used with a different frequency, being used with a slower pace.
14:54And I talk about like Jomo, finding Jomo, which is the antithesis of the fear of missing out. It's finding the joy of missing out. It's uncomfortable, but it's slowing down and finding that new pace and being consistent with it over time. And then there's practical things that I talk about in the book, like journaling is a big part of nervous system regulation for me. EMDR was a big process for me. It still is. And vagal nerve stimulation. Do you guys know about? We know about the vagus nerve and we've heard about vagal nerve stimulation, but if there's a specific practice you use. Yeah. Well, there's different ways to do it.
15:30I mean, humming, chanting can help with, gargling can help with vagal nerve stimulation but what i'm talking about is that our devices
15:39Dr. Will Cole:that go on these auricular branches i like the pulsetto and the shift wave chair yeah those are the two things is that what you're talking about yeah pulsetto goes around the neck and then there's one called neuropod it goes on the ear these branches which one do you like best pulsetto neuropod i think are doing innovative things do not take my pulsetto i don't even know we had one yes we do where do you use it that he's not there i i do all kinds of things what the hell's going on? Why do I never get access to this stuff? Have you ever tried a shift wave chair? Is it the white one that's like S-shaped?
16:08No, it's kind of, it feels, sorry, shift wave, but it feels kind of like almost like a, like a, like a lawn chair. Okay. But you get, sorry, it's a bad, but you get it and it's got all these different vibrating, stimulating things. It's amazing. It's a great product. I think I have probably used it. It shakes and does the thing, but it, but it kind of looks like that. Yes. I probably, you're probably going to be like, listen. By the way, you need to do that chair probably like terrible description michael listen it is like a incredible
16:32Dr. Will Cole:product turn off the lights and go on the we do love it but it kind of folds up and looks like a lawn chair when he turns on the lights just so we can go back and just put a pin in this yeah i go in the room i open the shades in this tiny room and i put my red light on and i do my shift wave let me let me let me let me shift this conversation along a little bit as you guys are writing this book yeah and with all the patients you have and dr josh ax has and also a friend of the show. Is there one thing that you have, that you identified that is causing the most damage to ourselves? Is it a theme?
17:03Is it different for everybody? Is there a common thread? I would say it's looking at health histories and labs. As long as I have, I would say there is different variables for every one of these things that I mentioned. But I would say typically there's a physiological component to it, meaning something physical that you can measure directly on labs and then some mental, emotional, spiritual piece. But if I had to say, okay, the most common variable that is definitely from a modernity standpoint, because our genetics haven't changed in thousands of years. So what has changed the most in a very finite period of time, and you're putting that in context with human history, it's the environmental toxin piece, which is a very complex, messy topic because then people just get afraid and they just want to say, I give up and there's this fatalistic, oh, we're all going to die sometime.
17:50You don't have to be perfect, but you still need, you don't want to stick your head in the sand either. The truth is oftentimes somewhere in the middle. It's being informed, being empowered, doing the best you can with, in this case, reducing toxic exposure, and then give the rest to God. Again, like stressing about this isn't good for your health. So yeah, I would say looking at microplastics, forever chemicals.
18:12Dr. Will Cole:What are specifics with the environmental factors? Like I want you to get very granular with that. Yeah. So we have to look at every room of your home and as you can, as you have access to work with what's within your budget. And again, where you're at from a headspace standpoint, because all of this is overwhelming. I'd rather you just be consistent with the things you're ready to and get some weeks and months and maybe even years, some under your belt. And the things that overwhelmed you today aren't going to overwhelm you. So you want, because consistency is key. If you do something for two or three weeks and then stop and then go back because you just like nothing worked or I'm disillusioned, you have this paralysis of analysis, it's not going to work.
18:52You know what kind of annoys me these days? Yeah. When I wanted something. Yeah. Then I want you to keep going. When we have someone like you on that's so knowledgeable, that has the information, I get frustrated that these days we have to caveat everything, right? Let's make sure you're a budget. Let's make sure your environment, like we understand it's not okay, but we just need the information. And then the people online have to obviously go and do what they can do. Wait, this is called something.
19:20Dr. Will Cole:This is called something. I forgot what it's called. But what I don't like is like, listen, I need you to come on here and do your thing and give us this information because you have the information. And in a perfect world, everybody would be resourced well enough where they could do every single thing on your list. But we know that that's also not realistic, but I also still need the information. So maybe today I can't afford the crazy air filter. I can't afford this machine or that, but I still need the information. So I guess what I'm saying is I'm annoyed that you have to like, just give me the information.
19:49And then yeah, people obviously do it within your means, like whatever you can.
19:52Dr. Will Cole:There's a slogan for this. Someone tell me what it is. It's called like, like, why is the soup not? And there'll be a recipe for soup that pops up on your feed. And there's a hundred comments of, well, what if you're gluten-free or what if you can't handle chicken? or what if you're vegetarian or what if you don't like carrots? And the point of the slogan, I forgot what it is, is like, just keep scrolling. Cause there's like that soup recipe is not gluten-free and it's not everything's for you. Not everything. I remember years ago, someone asked me like what my like health routine was. And I gave them all the things I gave them all the things I was doing.
20:28And somebody wrote in, they're like, this is not related. It's not a table. I go, do you want me to just lie and say, I just take lemon water and I just look this good genetically all the time doing that? Like, what do you want me to do? I'm going to tell you the thing then you decide what's within your your means it's probably because i'm i talk to people all day long no no no give me a little shit but i i hear what you're saying because but i when i talk to people and i see their eyes glass over or they feel like they have health fatigue i'm like want to slow i want to lower their guard up with just being like i can't do it because their excuses are bigger than their wise i i want them to know hey i'd rather you be consistent with a few than then feel like you have to have it all figured out.
21:08Sure. And even when I still give those caveats, there'll be the what about isms of something else. By the way, it's the nice, courteous, right thing to do with the caveats. I understand. But we have a real expert that has the information. And my whole thing is like, we just need the information. And of course, we're not all, we're not so delusional that we think we can do, even us, we can't do every single thing, maybe all at once, but it's something to strive for and be aware of. What I don't like is like, we can't have people like yourself gatekeep because you're worried about getting the information that you believe based on your research will work best for people.
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21:44Yeah, it's not the weird time we live in though. It is so strange where it's like, everyone thinks every content's about, only about them and they just are. I think it's a lack of discernment. It's a lack of like, we just want things spoon fed to us and realize and say, maybe just because someone else is doing it doesn't mean I don't have to do it. We're so pacified and weakened as far as our critical thinking skills and discernment. Yeah, we had an incredible cancer researcher on the show. It's all his whole career is like cancer research. And he was giving some advice on, from his perspective, if you could orchestrate the perfect diet and the things that would be the most beneficial to either ward off or fight cancer, what it would be.
22:21And he was talking, it was like, you know, you want to eat these kinds of organic foods and you want to shop in these sections and you want to avoid these areas of the grocery. This guy is like, all he's trying to do is get this messed up. People were acting like he was like the worst guy in the world. I'm like, guys, he's just getting, of course, it's not realistic all the time. But he's saying if in a perfect world, if he could prescribe, that's what he would do. Do what you can. Yes. And I'm like, guys, of course, like you had to do what you can. But this guy is telling you in an ideal scenario that people have to be able to read between the lines.
22:49Pick a few things. Yes. So, yeah, with that said, I think that was actually a good call. So I would say look at kitchen like the things you're using on a daily basis matter. the bioaccumulation of environmental toxins. So like nonstick coated pans, the conventional ones, there's great non-toxic ones, but a single scratch of like Teflon nonstick pans, anything that's water resistant, basically that's conventional can release over 9 ,000 plastic particles. That accumulates over time. So looking and swapping for natural non-toxic pans, cast iron skillets. I think that's a good start. Minimize the amount of plastics you're using in your home.
23:28And you're never going to be plastic free, but minimize it. And then the laundry detergents, the people that use in their home, the conventional ones are a source of endocrine disruption. They create that cellular confusion with your nervous system and your endocrine system, your hormone system. And then of course, beauty products. I mean, that's why women are exponentially more impacted by chronic health problems, specifically autoimmunity, which that cellular the confusion is the most obvious with autoimmunity when the immune system is attacking certain parts of the body. So looking at cleaner, less toxic personal care and beauty products.
24:05So that's a good start. Getting a water filter, getting an air filter like Jasper over there. So I think that's what you need to do.
24:12Dr. Will Cole:What is the Dr. Will Cole approved pan and what are you using for your detergent and what are you using for your skin? Give us your product list. Wow. Okay. The pans that we use in our home is Our Place. They're great. Caraway is another great brand too. I like both. They're both good things, but Our Place is what I typically use. And we use a lot of cast iron skillets too. Detergent? We use the, my wife's going to kill me. She's like, she's, she buys all this stuff. It is Branch Basics. Okay. Branch Basics loves them. Amazing people. I'm sorry again brand names uh branch basics do amazing thing and then skincare I kind of alternate but it's an inside out job it starts with food and nutrient density so polyphenols healthy fats clean protein that is where you start with clear skin but I honestly have so many friends in the space that I kind of alternate and whatever they send me I go in between agent which I formulated Holy May and Holy Radiance for Jenna and other things we're working on.
25:15I love Tina Chen Craig, you know, you beauty. I love you beauty stuff. I love Dr. Barbara Sturm. I mean, so I kind of rotate between these powerhouse women who I all know and love and kind of mix and match with that. And they tell me what to do and I just do what they tell me to do.
25:31Dr. Will Cole:Are you having a cocktail? No, never, never, never mocktails. but I don't drink alcohol. You don't like it? Well, it doesn't love me back. Uh-huh. So it's like, I know I'm going to lose friends here, but it's like, it's not a puritanical judgment thing. It's just, there's so many other options that things that I love that I don't, like something that's going to, it's like a bad trade-off. It's something that's going to make me not feel great the next day. So for me, it's just, I did when I was younger, but it's just not a part of my life anymore. See, but I like that answer because I, again, I think if that's, for you and you've got to that place and like you're in it and you can go and enjoy and be social and have time without that, like great.
26:12What I don't like is like when people are like, hey, a glass of wine is going to kill you and ruin your life. Right. Like that, that drives me nuts. But if you just don't, if you don't like it for you, who cares? Yeah. I don't like it for me. I mean, the research is clear that the healthiest amount of alcohol is none, but, but you, if it's some people can have a healthy relationship with it and it's a few times a year, it's not a lot. I look at their labs and they're just fine. So to pathologize and dramatize, everything's very exhausting. And again, stressing about the thing is sometimes worse than the thing.
26:42Let's talk about stress. And that was going to be the next thing I wanted to jump to. Chronic stress. What's it actually doing to our cells? What's it doing inside of us? Because to your point, maybe you are not partaking in alcohol, but you're an absolute stress case that can't manage. Yeah. Which is the argument that people have. when I talk about the research of how even small amounts of alcohol can impact cellular stress, it's a neurotoxin, it'll impact your nervous system cells. People will say, well, what if you're super stressed? What if you, like, what's stress going to do? And there is an argument, like people can come at me in the comments, but you could make an argument that sort of micro dosing alcohol, it's a small part of your life.
27:18You're doing so many other good things that there may be a hormetic effect with alcohol, meaning it's the dose makes the poison and the dose makes the medicine that's like very mark like mark sisson talks about that okay he does okay and we know polyphenols are xenohermetic in general like things like uh from grapes and resveratrol like the the bright colors and the bitterness of certain plant foods help with cellular repair so there's there is a place for that if it's organic organic biodynamic regenerative um but what your question was what does stress yeah stress like unrelated to alcohol stress you're it's one of those things on the psychological side that's going to activate that that cell danger response.
27:57Your cell membrane, which is the interface with the rest of life itself, life happens on the cell membrane. That's where the receptor sites are, which are the communication tools to other cells and hormones and neurotransmitters. It is another component. Stress is another component that's going to activate that cell danger response or make your cells feel unsafe. So that oxidation, that rigidity of the cell membrane creates a problem, that's cascaded problem because the good nutrients can't get in the cell as efficiently and the byproducts of of uh energy atp from the mitochondria can't get out because of the rigidity of the cell membrane or the oxidation becomes less permeable so as many people that are stressed can have things like constipation because their body's in fight or flight stress state they're wired and tired anxious and exhausted they don't even realize it their body's holding on to things, actually that's happening on a cellular level.
28:53There's cellular constipation because mitochondria are releasing these reactive oxygen species because the body's stressed for mental, emotional reasons or physiological reasons. It can't tell the difference and the cell becomes more stressed. And then on top of that, when you have excess cortisol and excess adrenaline, these fight or flight, freeze, fawn, hypervigilant, sympathetic neurotransmitters, that breakdown of those neurotransmitters and hormones adds stress as well. And all of that puts the body, when the body's in fight or flight, it decreases vagal tone back to that vagal nerve stimulation.
29:26When you have decreased vagal tone, that resting, digesting, peristalsis, that wave-like motion from the gut and the brain, that bidirectional relationship between the gut and the brain, bacteria will grow from the small intestines and from the large intestines into the small intestines. So a lot of people have dysbiosis or small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. That will cause leaky gut syndrome, which will cause systemic inflammation. That's all from stress.
29:52Dr. Will Cole:Why are some people looking for stress? Why are there some people that have an intensity about them when it comes to stress? You mean they almost... They almost like... It's like a saber-toothed tiger. Yeah. I think just because something's common, they've normalized it. Some people, is their nervous system is bent towards what's normal. I think that's probably part of it. And we're so conditioned for that hustle culture. I think upbringing too, depending on the environment. We go towards what's familiar. I have every telehealth patient fill out an ACE score, an Adverse Childhood Experiences. And it's looking at things like that stress.
30:27What was their home life growing up? An ACE score of just four, which isn't even that high, exponentially, 10, 15X, depending on the study that you cite, increased risk of autoimmune problems, metabolic problems trouble losing weight what's the scale go to? I mean it could be exponentially high depending on the type of ACE score it is but 15, 20 I've seen it pretty high depending on how many yeses you get I don't know the exact number of how high it could be the highest highest but pretty dang high can you do one of those tests just like yeah maybe I'll get one from you yeah just check it's a questionnaire it's very well it's utilized in conventional medicine and functional medicine very what kind of questions does it ask?
31:07So was there sexual abuse growing up? Like heavy stuff, sexual abuse growing up, physical abuse growing up, neglect growing up. Was there substance abuse in the home growing up? What was your parents' relationship growing up? These are some of the top things. And just saying yes to a few of those increases the likelihood. Those first few years of somebody's life determines that their relationship on a cellular level in many ways, but life itself at the present moment. so people and also being busy and stressed distracts you from the present moment so it's like people are so those are the typically the people the people that are so hell-bent on go go go go go they they're the people that typically say well meditation's not for me and they're typically the people that need to meditate the most they like they like to turn the light super bright in the morning i was just reading a whole They rhymes with Lychel.
32:00Lychel Bostic.
32:01Dr. Will Cole:Thesis on people who are hyper aroused and hypo aroused. And they're different. And I would think that that has a lot, and this is Lauren's science, to do with your cells. Is that true? Yeah. Well, I would say that hyper vigilance. Yeah. That sort of conditioning to be in that hyper vigilant resonance. The parasympathetic is taking a backseat in a lot of different people. And for a lot of people, it is that mental, emotional, spiritual stuff that I will say also informs the physiological, meaning if they're stressed and have unresolved trauma, they're going to do self-sabotaging behaviors like with food and exercise and all the things.
32:40Dr. Will Cole:If you, though, had been in your hyper aroused state in before 2023 and your wife had been like, you need to calm down, like you need to meditate. What would your response have been then? And what is it now? that's a good question i mean i would had said historically that i was doing it i just wasn't doing it enough i feel like you've always been pretty chill yeah yeah but i'm one of those people that i seem chill but i have like a lot of nervous yeah i can you're you have sure you got a lot going on you have a high expectation of self yeah so i would have said what number book is this fifth yeah this is like an over a sheet over there yeah fifth book i've been doing art of being well for five years two episodes a week and again i love all this stuff it's all a blessing you're speaking yeah see patients 10 hours a day two kids yeah wife 21 years married 21 years we're just talking about that wife that will get you the most yeah what's the difference between you then and you now if your wife was to tell you something you're saying if she i wouldn't have listened to her when i wasn't ready for it i would say i'm already doing it babe i'm already doing it, but I didn't have ears to hear.
33:52She saw it before I saw it. She saw it before I saw it, for sure. It's not the case. So in most cases.
33:59Dr. Will Cole:And now that you've acknowledged this, what is her energy towards it? She's happy. She's happy that I'm prioritizing that parasympathetic more. Yeah, I think it makes her happy. When you love somebody and you see, okay yeah they love what they do but they're burning themselves out this is not sustainable and there's not a change of course like you can't want it more than they do and i again i'm great at giving advice sometimes and i was i was doing all the wellness stuff the basic stuff but i wasn't looking at these dark corners we all need to find these dark corners are making ourselves feel and outside of the environmental stuff which we've talked about and we we all talk about a lot what are what are things that people are doing you mentioned millennials are the fastest aging generation a long time.
34:46What are things that we're all doing that are aging us the fastest based on what you guys have looked at? Is it certain behaviors? Is it certain foods? Is it certain, you know, what is it? Yeah, I would say the foods are a big part of it. The environmental toxin piece, we talked about that. Food is definitely another common common. If you're looking at the low hanging fruits of what I see most often in most people, it's going to be the stress trauma piece, spiritual disconnection, which that's another one that like people shouldn't sleep on. I really feel like on an individual basis and a larger societal basis, our collective relationship with God is an important thing.
35:21It informs a lot of things. And the science shows that too. People that have a regular faith practice tend to have lower high sensitivity C-reactive protein levels. They tend to have lower mortality risks, which is kind of controversial to say in some cases, but it's just true.
35:39Dr. Will Cole:I have a better day when I listen to things like Dr. Wayne Dyer, it changes the day. It does. Yeah. It's because it's shifting this whole state. If I have a spiritual practice in the day, the day is better. Yeah. So prayer, gratitude. Have you guys had Dr. Lisa Miller on Columbia? You need to have her on. She talks about this resilience that people that have a faith practice have. Resilience is what the world is lacking. There's a guy named Patrick Bett David. Do you know who that is? You know Patrick. Yeah. And I watched a clip from him one time and he was talking about spirituality, spirituality, religion, just in general.
36:14And I think he was saying, and again, like this, if I'm butchering this in the PCs, this clip, but he was basically saying like, maybe he was a non-believer or wasn't, no, maybe not that. Maybe he wasn't as connected to spirituality, but then he like started going through his life. He's like, life is so hard. You know, being an entrepreneur is so hard. The chips are stacked so against you from an odds perspective, just in life in general. and he's like it makes so much sense to just take all the help you can get and it's when he said that i was like it resonated with me because i'm like yeah like what is the downside of having a faith-based mindset whatever that whatever your religion or practice may be because it's all so hard taking every advantage like yeah why not yeah right and i think like even if you're someone who's resistant to religion or faith or whatever like if you think about it from that perspective it's just like why not just stack the deck as much as you can get as much support as you can That's how I think about it.
37:05Well, 100%. Yeah, there was a Harvard study that found that people that had a faith practice had a 33 % decreased risk of dying over a 16-year period. I mean, it's study after study. And yes, it's correlative. We don't, there's, a lot of this stuff is mystery. But it's making the cells feel safer, I think, is a major part of that. Even getting out in nature, I call it God art. It's like, get around the ineffable, the majesty, the wonder. It's not all about you. Get out of your sort of self-obsessed world that our social media feeds, that sort of dopaminergic, cheap dopamine hit. Get out and wonder as medicine and moving your body.
37:42And the research does show that. I mean, that's not religion, but that is God's creation, in my opinion, of this research out of Japan and South Korea of Shinrin-yoku and forest bathing and using nature as a medicine and meditation. And we know the mechanisms. Like, it's the frequency from the earth. It can sound woo-woo, but it's not. It's God made nonpolarized EMF that the earth makes. It actually tells ourselves to be in more frequency with nature.
38:06Dr. Will Cole:This is why I want my kids to go on a walk every morning. Thank you, Dr. Will. You're changing my mornings. Resilience is what the world is lacking. You just said. Yeah. Can you elaborate on that? Yeah. We're addicted to being, we are as a culture addicted to cheap dopamine hits and being offended. And these sort of siloed in the algorithm feeds that the sort of confirmation bias that happens. And we're so fragile. We're so fragile. And when we hear other people that maybe have a different opinion of us, many people, especially people that claim to be the most tolerant and the most progressive, are the biggest bullies on social media.
38:47And I think that exists in many camps online and in real life. We're lacking resilience. It's okay to hear, even like we said about that caveat that I had to give earlier, like It's okay to hear information and have discernment and critical thinking to know, yeah, it's maybe good for somebody else. It's not good for me. But we just get so rattled and we make everything about us. We become so pathology, you know, so egoic. Yeah. I mean, I think if you're an individual spending your time trying to tear somebody else down that's a stranger online, you have to at that point pause and take a look at your life and say, what am I doing?
39:23Yeah. One, it's not productive for you. Two, it's not a kind thing to do. And three, if that's where all of your interests are going or where you're spending your time, you're just holding yourself back. Because I promise you, nobody who's winning in life is taking any time to do anything like that. I've never met anyone on this show or somebody who is happy in life or that is doing well in life with their family or their friends or their business that is spending time trying to tear down other people. It just doesn't happen. I met a lot of miserable, successful people that do that, but I've never met a happy person.
39:57Yeah. That's what I mean. That's what I'm getting out in nature, having a spiritual connection. You're way less likely to, and I'm not saying just rote religiosity. We don't really mean religious people, but I'm saying deep, a spiritual connection to God and to people around you and treat other people the way that you want to be treated. It'd be really hard to come at somebody in the comment section on social media. So I think there's a lack of resilience in our culture for sure, because of all of these things. I look when I look at labs, I can understand why we are dysregulated as a culture and hurt people, hurt people.
40:30As the cliche goes, dysregulated people act out on that dysregulation.
40:34Dr. Will Cole:Have you ever tried cranial sacral? I haven't. I wanted I wanted to. It's on my bucket list. Some people come on this show and I just it comes up. And this one, I feel like you would love cranial sacral. Have you done it? I'm obsessed with it. Have you done it? I've done it. I like it. yeah she gets a she gets um what i've been told is what am i what's what is it with me i'm a little bit more he is locked off cranial sacral is where your body she just or he touches your body and your body heals itself so the it's not like a practitioner doing body work where they're the healer it's your body healing itself i've done similar things like reiki and energy i like it's similar it's similar to reiki yeah i've done reiki before it's similar um i think that you should try I'll try it out.
41:20We should do it.
41:21Dr. Will Cole:I feel like, I don't know how long you're here for, but I leave tomorrow. Okay. Well, next time we have a good recommendation. Can you let me know? Yeah. Because I feel like you would really appreciate it, especially with all the spirituality that you've been talking about. And I, I find it to be very, very helpful. It's my kids love it. Yeah. It's very spiritual. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Energy work is a great tool. Acupuncture. Fantastic. Tai Chi, all that stuff. It's all parasympathetic. Yep. It's all connected. Yeah. To your body. I notice like a huge difference in my body when I do it, but it seems like very related to the things that you're talking about, which is Vegas, Nerve, etc.
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46:09Dr. Will Cole:That's code SKINNY for 20 % off your first order. What does EMF, we're going off on a tangent, do to yourselves? It's another thing that makes our cells feel unsafe because our body is electric. We have an electric cellular conductivity that that's how our cells communicate between each other. That's how electrolytes, all the conversations around electrolytes, sodium, potassium, magnesium, what do they do? They help with electroconductivity at a cellular level. They help cells communicate via electricity. Why are people so resistant to talking about EMF? I don't know. I think it's back to that, probably that caveat.
46:49People are just like, we're screwed. And it's always, you know, it's, I think sometimes the nuance and context can be lost with like short clips. So then things get taken out of context. And then people overcorrect either way.
47:04Dr. Will Cole:Our next show is going to be called Taking Out of Context. Yeah. Taking Out of Context. I mean, listen, people take. And then they just shut down. They just burn out and shut down. It's a real, it's a real conversation. Well, listen, we've been talking, who knows, like, show them in an hour. somebody will find something for 30 seconds and say, these people are destroying the world, right? Like that's what'll happen. How do you protect your cells from EMF? Yeah. So some basic things that I, that I do that we recommend to our patients and you can go, you can go to the level that you want to, right?
47:33Lean into this stuff. I have EMF, like a soma vedic EMF harmonizer.
47:39Dr. Will Cole:You have that in your room, the silver one. yeah mine's green i think okay yeah i have this omavidic i have the um the lila quantum devices that are you've been in is that the like the gold looking yeah you put the stuff in them where you go to like sun life organic you know that yeah yeah um they have them in there so these are mild emf i think khalil lives in one of those things like a human size khalil definitely lives in the lila quantum for sure so these are mild ways the big bigger guns are going to be not sleeping with your phone at night. It's all about night. That's when your cells are rejuvenating.
48:15There's autophagy, metophagy. So sleep with your phone outside of the room or turn it off. You don't do it.
48:22Dr. Will Cole:No, I do. We do. Of course I do. I'm so happy to have this conversation. I think it's one of the most important things you can do. 100%. And you should, you can put those EMF lockers underneath your bed. the best way to shut down the EMFs is a Faraday cage. You just turn it off at night? Well, it's a Faraday cage. It's kind of like it looks like a mosquito net. Oh, that goes around your bed. I'd do it if Michael would let me. I would do a mosquito net. It's not actually a mosquito net, but it looks like a mosquito net. Yeah, but it's not. Faraday cage sounds like I'm going to sleep in a cage now.
48:58But it's more of like a net. They need to rebrand it.
49:00Dr. Will Cole:Those headlines, Dr. Will tells us to sleep in a cage. Yeah, every night I crawl down, I lock myself in my basement and dig a hole and what kind of kinky stuff yeah i put a hat on and i just stay down there until someone came on the show i think it was um dr pompa okay and he said i talk about him in the book he was my dad's best friend oh wow what i've known another background on dr pompa i talk about him in the book because he went through his own healing journey i've known him since the 80s yeah he was a trainer in my dad's gold gym because your dad was a bodybuilder my dad was a bodybuilder we've was my dad's best friend.
49:35He was a trainer. And that's how he got Dan got into the health space. My dad. Wow.
49:40Dr. Will Cole:Wow. Yeah. You've got to have him on your show if you have not. Oh, yeah. No, we've tried to make it happen. He lives in Utah now, but he's from Pennsylvania where I'm from. He's great on a mic. He told me, I think it was him to put Shanghai. Oh, yes. In the house. So Michael doesn't know this, but in the drawers in our beds, we have drawers like in the bed. I have all these shangai rocks and then downstairs by all the electricity I have a huge crystal and then Michael also doesn't know this I drop it into his water um yeah I put it in his like um not your water bottle like your aminos like a big rock oh that's the thing I always thought that was just shaking around my my stuff breaking up apparently yeah crystals certain crystals have some it absorbs yeah and i that's another one i didn't think about yeah we have crystals around the house too are you into that yeah from my emf blocking i consider them god art as well as like the way that bringing nature into your home in general that's why even just talk about emf mitigation it's getting out nature like connecting putting your feet in the grass get jumping in the water is one of the best ways like a natural body of water if you have access to it and then if you can turn off your electricity to your room like with the breaker if you if it doesn't if it's not attached to like a fridge or something you need to keep on through at night like it's not just about the 5g and the wi-fi turn off your wi-fi at night like that's a non-negotiable everyone should be turning what do you use to turn off your wi-fi just kill switch yeah can you get me one of those for our anniversary i want to kill switch and uh the electricity is wild we had Brian from test my home come into our house and test the house and he said watch this and he turned all the electricity off in my home and you immediately feel a shift in your nervous system it's it's insane and I think to have the electricity off when I'm sleeping just sounds like a dream well listen I think like again I just think from a nervous regulation perspective if we're talking about stress in general yeah what happens is you normalize symptoms like I I think we can all agree that we are becoming sicker as a population.
51:50That's why you have all these chronic diseases happening younger and younger, people getting sicker and sicker, bigger and bigger. Everyone knows that that's happening. So now the question is, and what people don't agree on is how that's happening. We've talked about environmental toxins. We've talked about food. We've talked about all the things we've talked about, stress and trauma. But if the environment is part of this, it's so foreign because it's hard to measure. like you don't like you know wi-fi is on it's not burning my skin right now you don't see a physical thing happening right now that doesn't mean that there's not something that's ticking away at you on a regular basis the other thing is is we're so disconnected from just living without these things being in nature being around without electronics being around that you just this is the new norm that we all live in and you can't really feel that or figure that out until you leave these environments and go into those places that's why a lot of people are drawn to that but But if you're a city dweller or you've been in an office a long time or you've been in an environment like this your whole life, it's almost like you just don't know until you try it type thing.
52:53So I'm never resistant to these things because what I've realized is if you would go back 25 years and say that these pesticides and herbicides are not good for us, people will look at you like you were nuts. If you were to go back to our parents' generation, speaking to millennials, and said, hey, Red 5 and all these dyes and all these things, artificial flavors, and our food is bad. First, people would have looked at you like you were nuts. We've come a long way. We now know that these things are harmful. I think that this conversation is just going to be another one of those conversations that 20 years from now, people are like, yeah, that wasn't that great, and you had to mitigate it.
53:26Dr. Will Cole:And flexibility of the mind is a sign of intelligence. So just because something was true yesterday doesn't mean it's not worth looking into today. In the 40s and 50s, people would smoke cigarettes and people like, you know, it was not until the 60s that big tobacco started getting hit by the government. Like people back then thought it was this is a great thing to do. One thing that my entire family does is we spray beekeepers naturals all the time. We do four sprays in our throat. There's a kid's version and there's an adult version. And it's the immune support throat spray. I like to specifically use this when I'm traveling or when I'm feeling like a lot of people are getting sick.
54:04Dr. Will Cole:School germs, friends germs, all the things. I'm into a non-toxic nasal spray that cleanses and soothes the nasal passages. Everything is targeted to support your immunity. And what I like about this brand is it's clean. So what I've been able to do with Beekeepers Naturals is really clean up my medicine cabinet, which has been so efficient to just go to one brand. So they have a nasal spray max. I have that. I love their cough syrup. Whenever I'm sick, I immediately reach for the elderberry one. And if you're unfamiliar with the brand, the main ingredients is propolis. And this is what the bees use to protect their hive from germs.
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55:23Dr. Will Cole:It's a full day designed to help you reset, refocus, and build a life that feels more like yours. We'll be sitting down with the Bumble founder, Whitney Wolf Hurd, to talk about what comes after success, when to change direction, how to make tough decisions, evolve in public, and build something that lasts. Plus, you'll have the chance to ask us for advice on the crossroads you're facing in business, relationships, or life. Get your tickets at DearMedia.com slash events. That's DearMedia.com slash events. Look what we've got here. the new mint roller. We did a new colorway, baby pink. It matches with your ice roller.
56:00Dr. Will Cole:And this for me is everything when it comes to travel. So how I use this is if I'm traveling or I'm running out the door and I want to use ice on my face. So I keep these in my freezer or my fridge, just depends on what I'm feeling. And then I'll throw it in my handbag. So one side is a contour, which is amazing. So you're going to feel nice and tight and lifted and sculpted when you use this. And then the other side, bite size, is an ice roller. So this one you could use on your neck so you can feel refreshed and de-puffed in the morning. I am obsessed with this because it's compact. It's like a compact ice roller that you can just throw in your purse.
56:43Dr. Will Cole:if you have not tried our mint roller. Go grab it now. Also, it comes in a little dust bag that we designed, which is so fun. You are all set to be tight, sculpted, and de-puffed with the Skinny Confidential Mint Roller. Go to shopskinnyconfidential.com to shop the limited colorway now. What is Dr. Will's boundaries around your phone? I'm sure you have boundaries. It's one of my weak points. I'm not great at it. Really? Yeah. I'm getting better at it. Okay. Um, but yeah, it's, it's one of those things that I am on it too much. Yeah. I'm on it too much. I'm answering emails. Like I have a lot of things that I have checked and I'm solid at and I'm working there, but I would say it's the biggest thing for me is not being on it so late at night.
57:29And that's where I'm leaning into. And then not being out first thing in the morning, allowing this buffer time, but I am on my phone a lot.
57:36Dr. Will Cole:I am. And I think maybe that just is good for people to hear that people that are in wellness it's like you don't we're not perfect in all the areas well that's what i was saying early on it's like i really do look at this stuff like if i can be good and disciplined the majority of the time yeah then i can slip or indulge here and there and be okay i think the problem is a lot of the times we we live in a way where we're not kind to our bodies for the majority of the time and then when you do the bad things then it really has a cascading effect right like yeah if you're if you're not taking care of your body you're not sleeping white you're chronically stressed you're eating shitty foods and then you're out on the weekends partying and drinking and doing things like that's not good yeah but if you're consistent most of the time it's like okay fine yeah i will say one thing is that maybe it's it's relative i feel like i'm on my phone a lot but when you're busy busyness will do a lot to for you to not to be on your phone so i'm when you're seeing patients all day long and doing podcasts, you're not on your phone.
58:38So there's big chunks of day where I can't be because I'm scheduled, but I'm looking at a screen because I'm in telehealth. So is that my phone? Yeah, partly it is. I'm in telehealth. So I'm on a screen a lot, but it's for work.
58:51Dr. Will Cole:Before you go, I would love for you to tell the audience, if there's someone listening that feels 10 years older than they are, what should they look at? What are the things, what are the things they can find in this book that would really help them feel their age or younger? I would start with, well, where 75 % of the immune system is in your gut. So if you're looking at, okay, where the heck do I start? The gut is, it's more specifically the cells of the gut lining, which is like one cell thick. It's very thin. It's very easily, the cells of the gut, the gastrointestinal system are very easily stressed.
59:25So that seminal event of leaky gut syndrome, things passing through the gut cells that shouldn't be able to pass through the gut cells. That's happening in a lot of people. So the more you can create the sort of cellular siesta in the gut and calm a stressed out gut. So things like soups and stews are one of the best first things people can do because that's where inflammation is a product of the immune system. That is a big contributing factor to these hallmarks of aging. So do some brothing and souping. Most people tolerate it really well. Bone broth based soups and stews. Bone broth. Oh, bone broth clip.
59:59Here we go. Part two. Just eat bone broth all day long. Me and Gwyneth Paltrow.
1:00:07If you just eat bone broth for one year straight. I'm just kidding. Don't put that in there. Actually, put it in. Keep it in. Let's see if we can get another clip going. It all comes back to bone broth. This episode is brought to you by bone broth. No, actually, it's not. So I think these ancient foods. I mean, look, when people are sick, the chicken noodle soup, it's not the noodles that people that got healthy from. It's the broths. It's the soups. It's easy to digest. And then I would say the compounds that I love, we're talking about cellular repair, xenohormesis, which I talked about earlier, but they're plants that went through tough times in their life.
1:00:40Like think of like a pungent extra virgin olive oil, kind of a bitter extra virgin olive oil or like a bright, deep colored pomegranate or berries or teas like puerh, oolong tea, green tea, black tea or cow even like a chocolate, herbs and spices. like rosemary, thyme, basil, bright colors of turmeric, the brightness and the bitterness are compounds like polyphenol compounds and sulfur compounds that the plant makes to defend itself because it went through a tough time. So the cells of the plant teach ourselves to be more resilient, back to resilience, actually help upregulate these cellular repair mechanisms like autophagy.
1:01:17Dr. Will Cole:What's the one with the Z? Xenohormesis. What's that? It's an X. It's like X. Xenohormesis is just a term that's used in the scientific literature of plants that create a hermetic effect. And what kind of plants are these? So those. The ones. Basil. Herbs and spices. Any herbs and spices. Colorful ones. The bitter ones. Bitter ones. Pomegranates, blackberries, blueberries. Can you cook them? Depending on what you're using. Like if I'm making a phone broth. Oh, you're not going to ruin the compounds by cooking them. That's so good. I can throw basil in it. And actually we'll make them more bioavailable.
1:01:51because a lot of the fibers and plant anti-nutrients can actually lock up some of these. So cooking them within reason is going to help make them more bioavailable because remember, you aren't just what you eat or supplement with, you are what you absorb. And by properly preparing things in soups and stews, you actually can help with them be absorbed better.
1:02:08Dr. Will Cole:Heal Your Cells, Dr. Will Cole and Dr. Josh Axe. Thank you for coming back on the show. You're a wealth of knowledge. Thanks, guys. Fourth time. Fourth time. Check out the other episodes too, guys. Where can we find your book and your podcast? Thanks, guys. I really appreciate you for your years of support and kindness. And honestly, you guys know what it's like to have a book come out. And yeah, I appreciate you having me back. Everything's at drwillcole.com. The links to the book, just head to books. The podcast is called The Art of Being Well. Just head to podcast for that. And I put tons of free resources.
1:02:39I've been writing for 15 years about different health topics. So just use the search engine there. Yeah, it's all there.
1:02:44Dr. Will Cole:New York Times bestselling author. I'm manifesting that for this one. Dr. Will Cole, thank you man Thanks guys, love you guys
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