Gary Brecka & Sage Brecka On Biohacking Longevity: Decode Your Blood Work, Balance Hormones & Live Healthier For Longer

20:32Gary Brecka:Like your hemoglobin A1C, the three-month average of your blood sugar is 4.8. Okay, so that's, if you know what this measurement is, it looks at 90-day average of blood sugar. If your average blood sugar is low, that means half the time you're below that, half the time you're above that, you're not a candidate for intermittent fasting when you have blood sugar that low. And so what they would do is they'd do the same thing that their husband or their boyfriend was doing. Their boyfriend was doing great intermittent fasting because they were poor controlling their blood sugar. So these women would have a really narrow feeding window, eating window.

21:02Gary Brecka:They would exercise intensely in a fasted state. They would burn all of their lean muscle. It would send their cortisol into a tailspin. Their thyroid would start to slow down in an attempt to save their life because the thyroid will perceive, the pituitary will perceive low blood sugar as starvation and it will start to slow your metabolism down. So we'd see their metabolism really slowed down. We see their sugars are really, really low. Their hemoglobin A1c, three-month average of their blood sugar was really, really low. They developed something called reactive hypoglycemia, which is actually where your insulin goes through the roof.

21:37So they got insulin resistant.

21:39Gary Brecka:And then they became insulin resistant. And then what follows, because the pituitary doesn't just regulate your metabolism, it also regulates your menstrual cycle, right? So it drops these hormones down, luteinizing and follicle stimulating hormone down. And it moves a woman from follicular to ovulation to luteal. And as it moves her through these phases, is the hormones need to leave the phase, leave one phase and enter the next phase at the same time. You want them going like this. You don't want them going like this. So what would happen is a lot of these young women were very estrogen dominant.

22:14Gary Brecka:The first sign of estrogen dominance is water retention. So they were bloated and water retensive. They weren't fat. This is exactly what happened to me before I got pregnant with my first baby. I would fast like him. I was like, oh, he's intermittent fasting. I would just have a coffee. I would go work out in the gym. Before I know it, I have thyroid problems. I have insulin resistance. And then you get pregnant on top of that. And I didn't know anything about weightlifting. This is five years ago. And it's a fucking nightmare. It's a disaster. And we've been fed as women a long time ago. Don't eat fat.

22:51a lot of don't eat meat don't lift weights that's going to bulk you that's going to bulk you and it's like crazy

22:58Gary Brecka:like the whole myth behind creatine you know if you're a woman over 40 you should absolutely be taking creatine you know what's so funny Gary we had a bunch of clips do very well you know on the show the last time you came on and one of the comments that I thought was funny was like oh here's a man telling women how to live why do you feel qualified to tell women how to live I know what you're going to say I'm actually truly not telling you how to live I'm just giving you the science behind your labs, right? I'm just giving you the science behind your labs. You know, what was really astounding too was our practitioners, even our doctor at the time was like, wow, I can't believe she's 26 years old.

23:33Gary Brecka:We need to put her on hormones. I'm like, no, we definitely don't need to put her on hormones. So what do you do? We need to expand her feeding window. We need her to start working out, not in a fasted state, but in a fed state. A fed state of protein, a fed state of fiber. What do you recommend? Minimum of 30 grams of protein. Okay. Within 30 minutes of waking. Okay. And we're just going to have her do steady state cardiovascular exercise. The old Tim Ferriss, uh, four hour body theory. You know, it's funny cause Tim gave me a shout out on a podcast the other day cause his book sales took off after I started.

24:00Gary Brecka:Cause I always give him credit cause that's what I actually read that theory. And I, it's a great book. It's great. It's a great book. And it's easy. League of Titans. He's written a lot of good stuff. So we would expand their feeding window, fix their nutrient deficiencies, vitamin D3, DHEA. we would get the SHBG if it wasn't because of birth control. We would lower their SHBG with just minerals like boron. And we would give them minerals, amino acids, vitamins, expand their feeding window, change their workout from intense fasted cardio to low intensity steady state cardio or weight training in a fed state.

24:38Gary Brecka:And their metabolism would just turn right back on. Was this wild for you to see, especially as a woman? Because like, you know, as you collect friends as you go on in life and you see that's a topic when you go for happy hour with your friends. Yeah, exactly. Was this shocking to you or did you already know all this? No, I knew none of it. I have zero medical background, never thought I was ever going to touch it or be near it. Now I can spit off so much, you know, great information just from learning from him and, you know, being around all these different people that have had all these life changing stories.

25:11stories and it's it's but then I also had my own life-changing story that helped me learn it so one of my stories when I became estrogen dominant and you get when when we talk about estrogen dominance one of the main symptoms is getting this like tire around the belly and I've always been relatively thin the estrogen band yeah so like right below the belly button when women are just like oh my god I feel so bloated and that's where they're carrying this water weight that happened to me and it was all because I was taking the wrong form of supplements and so it it was like I went to go pick up my youngest daughter multivitamin just the gummy you know kids multivitamin and thought oh I'll pick up this other you know brand of vitamins women's ultra multivitamin I think it was CVS where they lined the shelves picked it up started taking it over the course of the next four months i mean it was very exact i turned in to a crazy person so and i got like i was carrying weight in weird ways good idea gary yeah just listen don't say anything yes we listen and don't judge he helped me through this well you know tried to no you did after the

26:24Gary Brecka:fourth month yeah but um i just thought she was going nuts yeah but it's like we had been together for five years at that time and he was like what is going on i mean we talked about last time when when she gave birth to our first child and she was postpartum i had no idea what was going on what's wrong with you yeah i'm like oh yeah exactly but you also were in a state where you're just like i don't know i actually don't know why this is happening to me and we went there was a lot of stress to the business for sure but i don't know i just there were days where i didn't want to get out of bed there were days where it took all i had to get to the office and you know and run the show there there were days where i i wanted to kill him you know i i was either super sad super angry my brain didn't work like the brain fog was so severe and i and my just my anxiety depression ocd went through the roof all caused because of the wrong multivitamin nuts, right?

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32:50But the two things to look out for, B9, vitamin B9, and vitamin B12. So you don't want those. No, you do. You just want the right forms. So there's a lot of synthetic man-made laboratory versions of these vitamins because it's cheaper to make. The natural versions are a little bit more expensive. It's not like off the charts expensive though. So vitamin B9 is the real version, the natural version is 5-methylfolate. So the cheap version, the man-made version is folic acid. The majority of America and definitely countries outside of us, but know about folic acid because it's so heavily pushed on pregnant women.

33:32Right. So I'm sure you went to gynecologist, you're pregnant and they're like, we want you to take a prenatal with folic acid. And I think you guys probably covered this before. But if you have certain genetic markers and certain genetic breaks, of which I do, it's called MTHFR. I cannot convert the folic acid. I can't methylate it into 5-methylfolate. I tell people I'm allergic to it basically because that helps people understand better what happened. But it's a deficiency because of MTHFR. I need more folate in my diet, in my supplementation to bring my levels up to a normal range. But folic acid, a doctor, my gynecologist, every year that I go in for my annual exam, we get into an argument about it.

34:17But I tell her, I can't process folic acid. So I just ate folate.

34:23Gary Brecka:And she was taking huge, this multivitamin had very high doses of folic acid, like enough for a pregnant woman, and had very high doses, like 23 ,000 % of a form of B12 called cyanocobalamin. Yeah, that's the other one. Neither of which she could process. So I just can't have the change stuff. It sent her into a tailspin. I mean, it culminated in her actually in the office one day. She actually, for the first time, had a panic attack. Yeah. And she had it right in front of me. and I was very empathetic to the panic attack, but I literally said, we're going to figure this out. And I grabbed the Q-tip while she was having the panic attack.

34:56Gary Brecka:And then I helped her, but I cheek swabbed her. I actually was like, I'm getting some DNA. She was laying on the floor. I stepped over and I cheek swabbed her. I was like, just let me get some DNA, babe. And then I put it in a Ziploc bag and then I tried to walk her out of the panic attack. And you had never tested her before that? No, I'd never tested her for this gene mutate. before. And what was astounding was she was positive for the MTHFR gene mutation, affectionately called the mother for her gene. But let me, so this is where I really started, like my, the light bulb went off for him and I really started to dig in and understand this.

35:34So when I got my LabCorp blood labs back, it, it tests for your vitamin B12 levels. And that was like sky high through the roof, couldn't be measured. But we also did a cellular nutrition assay test, which is what measures the vitamins at a cellular level.

35:49Gary Brecka:Inside the cell. Inside the cell. And I was almost completely deficient in B12. How do you do that test? Is that a - It's a blood test. It's a blood test, okay. Yeah, Cell Science Systems has one. There's one called the Alcat. There's one called the Cellular Nutrition Essay. But it's just a blood test. But yeah, but basically what it does is it measures the difference between what's in your blood and what's going into the cell. Because very often people see really high B12 in their blood and they think, oh, I'm taking too much B12. It could be the polar opposite. It could be that you're not absorbing it, right?

36:14Gary Brecka:So if none of it is being metabolized by the cell, then your levels are going to rise. So if you take the wrong form of B12 and majority of people that are taking cyanocobalamin are taking the wrong form, then what happens is it skyrockets in the blood but it never moves into the cell. And this is what we found on her blood test and the light bulb went off for me because we saw these sky high levels in the serum of her blood and no B12 inside of her cell. So then he started asking me, he's like, what are you taking that you have so much B12? And then we just, we basically just pulled everything out.

36:46It was like, okay, what am I eating? What am I taking? I was like, oh, I started this multivitamin, stupid gummy multivitamin four months ago. And that was, we did my lab review with one of the practitioners and she was like, that's it. You can't process cyanocobalamin. And I was, it was in like powdered drinks, it was in protein shakes. It was in, like I started to see all these places where it was in my diet. And then folic acid is also sprayed on most of our grain source. So I was eating cereal in the morning. This is kind of before I really got into the health kick, I guess, fully. But I was having cereal in the morning or a bagel with cream cheese or something.

37:23I was bad.

37:23Gary Brecka:Super doses of folic acid. All of that, there's folic acid in our grains. So unless I eat organic or imported grains, then my anxiety will come right back. I'll be super depressed. So that's what was happening is I was just getting high doses of folic acid and cyanocobalamin. and it made me nuts. There was a reel that I saw the other day that said the best decision that you can make for your family is to change the bread in your house. Wow, that's a great... And it was so cool. Yeah. We found this little local sourdough place here that has three ingredients because of your episode. Amazing. And changed the bread and my son was getting little bumps on his arms and they immediately went away.

38:06In their wild? It's just, it's like yeast, whatever the other thing, like flour. Like sourdough? Yeah, flour and water. That's the ingredient.

38:13Gary Brecka:Yeah, like a good sourdough is great. And that's why a lot of people can eat grains and cereals and breads and pastas in Italy. And then, you know, in the U.S., you just blow up like a tick. Yeah. Because folic acid is a completely man-made chemical, right? You can't find it anywhere on the surface of the earth. But it's in everything. And it's in the big breads, the big brands that rhyme with... Like the brands we think, they greenwash it. Yes, they greenwash it. Yeah. So here's another thing, too, that I... Then my mind started racing. I was like, okay. so then we got all the kids tested and then so for my daughter you know when i only had my daughter alina and then came into gary's family with madison dylan and cole but i realized like gosh alina i would give her i know it's bad to say brands but i would give her orange crackers they were shaped like fish shaped like fish that are the worst for cavities i just found out Worse for cavities.

39:07Circled cereal. I know you always get Cheerios. I take her to the zoo. I give her all of these snacks. Okay, Cheerios is not a partner of the show. If they were, I'd bleep it out now. Cheerios is in trouble. We've gotten in trouble before. I do not think. But I'd give her handfuls of these snacks and then she'd be in like full-blown meltdown mode, like temper tantrum, like crazy. And then you think they have ADHD. And then you think that works. Or you think they have this. I was telling Michael this the other day. our kids are pretty even keeled we take them to a birthday party every every time there's a tantrum yeah because the red whatever or the whatever's in the cake yep and there's a tantrum and he's looking at me like who are these kids and i'm like this is what happens when they eat what all

39:52Gary Brecka:these things that you guys are talking about and if you want to know the why the why is exactly this because rarely does anybody tell you what adhd is or add is or even what anxiety is no one ever defines it for people. And so I just like to define it so they know what it is because attention deficit disorder is not an attention deficit at all. It's an attention overload disorder, right? It's too many windows open at the same time. And so people that have ADD or ADHD, they don't lack the ability to pay attention. They lack the ability to pay attention to so many things. And so this is, you know, just too many windows opening.

40:28Gary Brecka:So what opens these windows? What opens them is a rise in something called catecholamines. And this is a category of neurotransmitters linked to fight or flight. So at baseline, you have catecholamines circulating around in your brain and your bloodstream right now. But if they rise, you'll be in awakened state. If they continue to rise, you'll feel anxious. If they continue to rise, you will feel the sensation of a fear without the presence of a fear. And if it rises any further, you will have full-blown anxiety. As they continue to rise, you're going to have a panic attack. And if they go higher than that, you will have full-blown paranoia.

41:04This is the same cascade of neurotransmitters

41:07Gary Brecka:just at increasing levels in your brain. And so once you understand that it's this rise and fall of this class of neurotransmitters called catecholamines, then you can go about saying, well, what breaks down catecholamines or what causes them to rise? Well, in children and men and women, the whole population, roughly half, somewhere between 44 and 60 % of the population have this gene mutation. And so they have a difficult time breaking them down and things like folic acid will exacerbate it. So this is why food is very linked to mood. If food drives excess catecholamines, food can drive anxiety, food can drive anxiousness, food can drive, you know, racing thoughts.

41:50Gary Brecka:And then modern medicine comes in and says, okay, well, if your mind's racing let's put amphetamines into the body right to race the central nervous system to match the pace of the mind and that doesn't make any sense why don't we actually just slow which is why all these kids are so over medicated yes 100 and it's really wild whenever we travel if you notice their personalities change a little bit because we don't have all the access that we have at our house of all these things that i've taken away essentially and and added better because you're traveling right like we're in miami it's like i gotta do what what bagel is this i don't know i mean i could travel with a bunch of shit but like fuck add it to my plate yeah but it's the personality changes a little bit when they travel i notice it there's two italian restaurants in naples where yeah i gotta text you guys next time oh yeah about where to go oh thousand percent will tell you so there's both are delicious they're amazing but the behavior in our children, including even my teenager and then my nieces who are younger, the behavior is vastly different if we go to one versus the other.

42:56Very much so. Right? It's a true imported. True imported. I'll even give a shout out Barbatella's in Naples. You go there, you can eat the pizza, you can eat the pasta, and you can eat the bread, and you're going to be okay. Your kids aren't going to leave like crazy children. But the other restaurant, I love it. It's delicious, but I know that they add folic acid into the flour and where they're just using it's and I should specify it's enriched or fortified so if you look for enriched or fortified flour rice pasta cookies crackers whatever that's not good they're adding when you see it and they're like oh we've added all these vitamins and minerals that's a bad thing it's they're adding things that are cheap and a lot of people just can't process it.

43:39I have a question that is a bit of a follow-up still in line with what you're talking about. You mentioned blood pressure at one point. In line to a story you told us off air about a very prominent individual, which I won't shout out unless you do, that you helped that was basically on the way to extensive heart surgery. He's talked about it everywhere. Oh, Dana White. Yeah, okay, but I don't want to say it for you.

44:01Gary Brecka:Yeah, yeah, no, Dana's been very open about it. I'm waiting for you on the podcast, Dana White. I was talking to him on the way in here. I know this is just a position you wouldn't think of him on this podcast, but I find him really interesting. I wanted to talk about high blood pressure because there's a few things. One, what is the real marker? I feel like at one point people were saying it was 130, then now it's 120, but I've seen it moves up and down. We'll pause there. And then the other part, one thing I've also seen, somebody mentioned that actually high blood pressure can be solved by increasing the magnesium in your body so that your vessels aren't constricted.

44:36So one, why do people have blood pressure? Two, how do we solve it? And three, what is the real mark people should look at?

44:43Gary Brecka:So, you know, this is another thing that we found to be the vast success in our clinics. And, you know, when our clinics really started, when our clinic, which was called Streamline Medical Group at the time, really took off before we sold and merged with 10XL. And this was one of the things we started to become known for in town. And if you actually not done by our heart. Most people think that the heart circulates all the blood in the body. It doesn't. It circulates about 30 % of the blood in your body. The other 70 % of your circulation is microvascular. It's done by an activity called vasomotor.

45:19Gary Brecka:So think of a snake swallowing a mouse. So there's no pressure in the snake's throat. This is actually a muscular activity, vasomotion or vasomotor activity. So this is why if you look at, and you can Google this, you know, what percentage of essential hypertension or primary hypertension or high blood pressure is idiopathic, is of unknown origin? 85%. 85 % of the time when somebody is diagnosed with high blood pressure, they do not know the cause. And what do they do in 100 % of those cases? We medicate the heart. We hold the heart responsible for a crime it's not committing. So beta blockers, ACE inhibitors, calcium channel blockers, diuretics, we throw all of these things at the heart, even though the person has a full normal cardiac workup, normal EEG, EKG, heart sounds, lung sounds, even advanced diagnostics, cardiac cath, Dichontra study, all normal, but we're still going to medicate the heart because we don't know why the blood pressure is high.

46:11Gary Brecka:So you just think about a closed system, right? This is a fixed system. If you make the pipe smaller in a fixed system, the pressure goes up. So what makes the pipe smaller? Well, one of the culprits, and if you want to look up the study, there's some phenomenal studies. There's a hypertensive journal that actually published the link between homocysteine, which is an amino acid in everybody's blood. Everybody listening to this podcast right now has an amino acid in their blood called homocysteine. When this amino acid rises to too high and it's not properly metabolized, so it turns into something called methenine, as it's cruising by the inside lining of the artery, it irritates the artery.

46:49Gary Brecka:And if you irritate an artery, it will clamp down. And when you make these pipes smaller, it will drive pressure up. And so we spend very little time talking about the 70 % of this circulation that's microvascular. So how do we cater to that? You cater to it by managing homocysteine. If you have double digit homocysteine, you have some vascular irritation. And you can take a very simple amino acid called TMG, trimethylglycine. It's over the counter, you can get it anywhere. Our company makes one, but there you take this amino acid and it and it gives you the ability to begin to metabolize homocysteine because it's really fascinating about the human body and i and i'm and i'm dedicated to balance my adult lifetime to the study of this but just because i'm so fascinated by it it's like we take one item and we use it in the human body and then we throw out the trash and then that trash gets pulled into another cellular transaction and it gets utilized and then it gets tossed out as trash and then it goes into another transaction so you look like homocysteine becomes something called methionine.

47:52Gary Brecka:Methionine goes up to the brain and helps quiet the mind. Once the mind is quiet, it's metabolized into something called S-adenosylmothionine, SAMe. And then SAMe is broken down into S-adenosylhomocysteine, which becomes homocysteine. So what's really interesting is there's like the sandbag pass in your cellular biology, passed from one transaction to the other. If you delete a nutrient from that chain of events, the chain breaks right there. So in other words, like if I was passing a sandbag to Sage, she passed it to you and passed it to Lauren. If Sage dropped the sandbag, there's nothing wrong with the two of you, but there's nothing you could do.

48:31Gary Brecka:You don't get the raw material you need to do your job. And this is why, you know, our biggest mantra now is we're really just not as sick or diseased or as pathological as we think we are. Very often, then we are just nutrient deficient. So directly to the case of hypertension, the first thing I would check, unless your doctor can say you have hypertension because. And hypertension is high blood pressure? High blood pressure, yeah. Okay. Sorry. If you have high blood pressure because of this, we found this wrong with your heart, which is 15 % of the time. 85 % of the time, they're like, you have high blood pressure, we don't know why.

49:04Gary Brecka:And so then, you know what they do, which is even more sinister in my opinion, is they go, well, let me look at your family history. Oh, your uncle has high blood pressure. But he might have got the same kind of diagnosis, but they don't know. And your mother's sister has high blood pressure. Oh, you have genetically inherited hypertension. And if a doctor ever tells you that, I would look him right in the face and say, well, then what gene did I inherit from my ancestor that caused this condition to exist? And their face will go blank because that gene doesn't exist. And if that gene doesn't exist, because we rarely pass disease from generation.

49:36So there's no way that it's genetic, is what you're saying.

49:38Gary Brecka:it's familial it runs in your family but it's not genetic we assume it's genetic because it runs in our family but once i get you to accept that you have a genetically inherited disease i can get you to subscribe to a lifetime of medication because i say lauren you got this from your okay from your dad's side and your mom's side you're screwed you'll say oh i guess this is what they did with my thyroid well so hold on before you go to thyroid but so So if they came and they said, okay, we can't point to a condition in the heart and you and I was your patient, what would be the things you would have me look to in order to try to decrease my blood pressure in a more natural way?

50:20TMJ. Or TMG. TMJ. Yeah, TMJ. Oh, don't take medical advice from me. TMG, right? Yeah, yeah. And you have a supplement that you can get. But is it just that? Or like, you know, and when you're working somewhere, is it, are you prescribing other things? Is it? Like, is that what you use? I know with Dana, he's told his story. Like, is that the thing?

50:38Gary Brecka:So Dana had one of the highest levels of homocysteine that we'd ever seen. Okay. Right. And just to be clear, I'm not a physician. I'm not licensed to practice medicine. So I don't want to pretend to be a doctor because I'm not. But we would pull homocysteine on all of these labs. And the correlation between high levels of homocysteine called hyperhomocysteine and the clients coming into our clinic that had high blood pressure. I mean, I don't know that we saw a case where that wasn't the case. I mean, I'm not saying it's 100 % of the time, but it could be as simple as this elevated amino acid causing this vascular constriction.

51:13Gary Brecka:The other thing I would obviously look at is I would look at sleep, diet, and exercise. I mean, those are also great ways to lower your blood pressure. Lots of people are hypertensive because they are sodium deficient. I know that sounds mind-numbingly opposite of what you've been told, but you know if if you were so hypertensive had your if your blood pressure was so high right this moment that you called 9-1-1 the very first thing they would do when they got here is they would bag you with saline they would take sodium chloride and bag it into and and and and water and they would bag you with it and you know the the if you were so dehydrated right this moment that you landed in the emergency room the very first thing they would give you is a saline iv so i would look at mineral deficiencies, I would put them on a mineral salt.

52:00Gary Brecka:Like Baja salt? Like a Baja gold salt. That's what we take. Yeah, I think it's a phenomenal salt because it has all the other trace minerals and we're so mineral deficient and we don't think that minerals matter, but they do. I mean, most people will tell you that our bones are calcium. They're not. They're calcium combined with phosphorus, which forms something called hydroxyapatite. So our bones are hydroxyapatite, but in order for hydroxyapatite to form, we need 12 minerals. If you're missing any one of those 12 minerals, you can't ossify bones, which is why so many nursing homes are full of men and women all over this country that have osteopenia or osteoporosis, and they've been on calcium supplements for 20 years, right?

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59:39Ashwagandha. Gives me pimples. And I'm not a big pimple. I don't get a, that's not my problem. I have other problems. Pimples are not my problem.

59:47Gary Brecka:Right. So what can I do if I can't take that one? Take the version that doesn't have ashwagandha. So you're probably talking about the thorn version. Okay. Is there a version that doesn't have that? Yes. The thorns has thyroid support. Pure Encapsulations has one. With no ashwagandha. Right. It just has the selenium and the other thyroid support nutrients. Remember, the vast majority of your thyroid hormone. I'm going to butt in for a second. Please. Because what about, and I have no idea what your levels were, what it is, but did you talk about our bed situation and what had happened with me?

1:00:22Gary Brecka:Oh, yeah. That's annoying. Because I did a blood test and it showed that my thyroid was a little off. I haven't had thyroid issues to this point, but they were, maybe my T3 was too low? T3 was low. Okay. So we were trying to figure that out because I hadn't had that issue before. And there's always something new in our house. He's always coming up with, like when you guys come to visit. We can't wait to see. I can't wait to see the house. I have a bad biohacking problem. I can't wait. I'm coming to check out the podcast studio in the Ox. What is it? The hyperbaric chamber. Yeah. I love it. Yeah.

1:00:54The gym is in a hyperbaric chamber. He went a little too far when he put a hyperbaric chamber in our bedroom. But, you know, we've moved past that. Okay.

1:01:00Gary Brecka:She went skiing for four days and I put a hyperbaric in the bedroom. Like a ginormous two-ton hyperbaric. Like it's a submarine in our bedroom. Okay. It's a lot. Get your oxygen while you do what you do. I moved on. Okay. But anyway, he put this thing over our bed. What is it? The silver? Pure woven silver fabric. It's basically... It looks like a tent over our bed. Yeah, so it's completely EMF-free. It's like a princess bed now. So there's no Wi-Fi, no 5G, no microwave, no radio, no nothing. We sleep in a completely EMF-free environment. Get ready, Michael. The guy that puts this together, yes, I think you're actually going to love this.

1:01:33So the guy puts it together. I'm like, this is actually kind of pretty. It's cute. You know, it's kind of like a princess bed. But he was like, you're going to sleep awesome because you're not going to have any EMF and all these other things. I slept like shit the first three nights. And so I texted the guy. I'm like, dude, this is not working. It's actually had the opposite effect.

1:01:50Gary Brecka:She's having hyperthyroid symptoms. Wide awake. Mind racing, heart. So he goes, oh my God, it's great. I'm like, what? he's like are you taking a thyroid supplement or or something of support or something and i was taking selenium i think and i just started it maybe a month before and i was like yeah i actually just started the selenium thyroid supplement he goes okay stop taking it for a week and see if that helps and i was and i have no idea what the science was on it but as soon as i stopped taking it and gave it a couple of nights or we went to travel as per usual and when we came home and i I slept that first night not having had the thyroid supplement and slept in the bed.

1:02:29It was nuts. I went right to sleep. And I haven't had thyroid issues since. So, but isn't the selenium helping with the thyroid? I'm confused.

1:02:37Gary Brecka:The selenium is helping with the thyroid. She was deficient. But as soon as she got in an EMF-free environment, her thyroid function fixed itself. It corrected. So then I was taking a supplement that was like messing it up again. Isn't that wild? Unbelievable. Like our sleep scores are now, I post my sleep scores all the time. But I mean, our sleep scores are off the charts. I mean, I'm consistently like 98%. So what is the product called again? The silver? I don't know if it's even a product. Dr. Mercola sells one, but it's basically a silver fabric. It's 100 % woven silver. You put a thing on the ground and then it closes.

1:03:09Like you open it up and then it closes. And you can't use your phone in there. Like I can't take a phone call. There's no reception in there. There's no Wi-Fi. It reminds me of the Mithril vest that Frodo gets in Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Hold on. This is where I'm confused though. So let's say you get this like tent situation. You're sleeping in the silver tent. You don't need thyroid support then?

1:03:30Gary Brecka:She has not had it since. I have not needed. We have to be very careful about that because I'm not giving medical advice. But yeah, I haven't needed it since. Okay. Which is wild. But again, my thyroid levels were not that far off. A lot of our organs are EMF sensitive. But I want to just finish answering your last question because 80 % of our thyroid hormone T3 is not made by the thyroid. even though we measure thyroid hormone T3 on a thyroid panel. And then if it's deficient, we medicate the thyroid. That's what conventional wisdom says. T3 is low. Let's medicate the thyroid, you know, levothyroxine, synthroid, armor thyroid.

1:04:04Gary Brecka:So there you're holding the thyroid responsible for a crime it's not committing because if you just think, well, where does the other 80 % of that thyroid hormone get made? The majority of it's made in the liver, but some in the gut and some in the periphery. But the point is that it's outside of the thyroid. And so if you look at the nutrients needed, selenium, sometimes iodine, complex of B vitamins, if you look at the nutrients that are needed for proper thyroid metabolism to convert T4 into T3, deficiencies in these nutrients can cause deficiencies in thyroid hormone levels. And now you're medicating the thyroid for a crime it's not committing.

1:04:40Which is why the pure encapsulations for me you think will be good because it's...

1:04:44Gary Brecka:Doesn't have ashwagandha. But also you recommended DIMM to me too. Yeah, diandolomethane. And I can take both of those pregnant? You can take them when you're pregnant. Why are there women who are not getting pregnant? Why is infertility higher than ever? That's a great question. So I think that a lot of women are poorly methylating. And if you look at, there are a lot of factors in getting pregnant. One of them is what's called adhesion, the implantation of the egg into the uterine wall. This is called adhesion. The other one is the viability of your eggs. A lot of fertility is governed by this process of methylation.

1:05:22Gary Brecka:Methylation is what the body does to take all the raw materials that enter our body and convert them into the usable form. When you get certain deficiencies, like for example, if you want to have some fun, just Google MTHFR and infertility. Infertility. Okay. And so a lot of your female audience will find this, that when they read about MTHFR, which is the most common gene mutation in the world, when they read about this gene deficiency and its propensity to cause skyrocketing levels of miscarriages and an inability to conceive, you realize that my inability to conceive and if I've been conceiving my inability to carry to term because I've had repeated miscarriages is highly correlated to this gene mutation, which means it's highly correlated to a nutrient deficiency, right?

1:06:10Gary Brecka:So this gene mutation doesn't actually interrupt your pregnancy. It interrupts your ability to metabolize folate. And the deficiency in methylfolate is what's interrupting your pregnancy. And so very often we blame disease on outcomes when the disease is the byproduct of a nutrient deficiency. And there's very few diseases that you cannot trace back to nutrient deficiencies, right? I mean, this whole category of autoimmune, right? Which by the way is 82 % of autoimmune diseases in women. You know, they're more, and women are not more susceptible to autoimmune disease. They are more susceptible to something called caregiver syndrome.

1:06:54Gary Brecka:Something, you know, they're more susceptible to poorly managing stress. What is caregiver syndrome? Putting the needs of others before the needs of yourself don't worry i don't have that literally i don't have that at all he's just not affected by that listen by the way i'm comfortable saying that i'm not like of course i'm like a mother to my children but i'm not gonna mother my husband there you go and he likes that he's like yeah his mother was his mother doesn't have that syndrome either which is good she's gonna she's gonna hear that and she's gonna live forever put that disclaimer out there no it's not a disclaimer she's the best mom ever i think like i i think that that has raised a strong man who has attracted someone who doesn't have carrier syndrome she doesn't have it any longer not anymore i did though for a long time yeah and then i had to just step back and go you know what y 'all can take care of yourselves now i don't have any more butts to wipe for a long time yeah i don't blame you i mean you know that's well you're right in the thick of it though yeah that's I wanted to know what was the first celebrity that spoke out about you guys because all these celebrities talk about you.

1:08:03You did a podcast with David Grutman. Yeah. He talked about how you changed his life. He's a huge support. I mean, thank you to Dave. Ivanka Trump on your podcast said that I got her onto Perfect Aminos. Everybody we come across

1:08:15Gary Brecka:is talking about you. Yeah. And so, what was the celebrity that sort of tipped the iceberg and what did they talk about? Kardashians, I think, when we went on the Kardashian show. them through dave yeah we did dave introduced us dave grutman thank you very much he has been he just you guys had known each other for many years but then he really you know got on the program and changed his life and his wife isabella they're just like fabulous people such good people and he just knows everybody i mean he's the king of miami and and he was so kind to always i mean he would facetime gary'd be sitting down with the most wild people and he'd facetime gary and be like, Derek, you need to talk to this person.

1:08:56They got this problem, that problem. You gotta fix this. You gotta fix them.

1:08:58Gary Brecka:He would throw me on a FaceTime with someone, usually very famous. So was he the one that started connecting you? Or was her and Isabella, they started connecting you guys and then you started helping crazy people? Yeah, I mean, in all fairness, the Cardones, when we merged with 10X, when we went from being streamlined to 10X Health, the Cardones introduced us to a lot of people in their circle. One of Elena's friends, Kerry Kasem, is who introduced us to Dana White. But prior to that, Dave Grotman was introducing us to everyone under the sun. We can publicly talk about it because we ended up being on the show.

1:09:29Gary Brecka:But introduced us to Kendall Jenner. I watched the show. What is the episode? We were on the season finale of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. I think that I maybe met you guys. It was the new one on Hulu. Okay, and so I need to go put it together and watch you guys on the show. Did you help her with anxiety? Helped her with anxiety. Okay. And did it work? Worked like a charm. So all these people just started singing your praises. But what I think is so cool about what you guys have done is it's been really organic. It seems like you've really helped people and they have such value in what you guys have done that they organically talk about it.

1:10:09That's what I feel. I mean, you've been able to help so many people and that's clear. But who have you come across that you've not been able to help? Like something that's beyond your scope of powers or information? like what or is that rare or is it typical you are able to i don't know if you can say a name but yeah i can't say a name but i mean what condition i guess yeah so basically poor compliance

1:10:30Gary Brecka:is really really hard to to help someone like a lot of people will introduce me to a loved one and you know that has a certain condition now we always get a medical team involved just to be clear but a lot of times when when you're introduced to somebody maybe they don't respect your level of knowledge or maybe they don't know who you are and or maybe they just don't want to do it they haven't started out for themselves and they're and they're and they're very non-compliant or very often we've had the doctors talk them out of yeah that too um a lot of the advice that we give and why is that that doctors do that we had we had one case someone that you guys know very well actually you know lauren's talked about this so i could i could talk about lauren you know we we were working with her husband with jr before he passed away and she talked spoke about this on the podcast and jr was just doing amazingly well because blood work was literally perfect and the four of us jr and lauren and i and doctor were on the phone and uh our our doctor i was complimenting jr on his his blood labs and he brought up the fact that his primary wanted him to get this booster.

1:11:40And I was like, look, JR, number one,

1:11:43Gary Brecka:you've already had COVID. You've already, you have the antibodies. We can see them on your lab results. You don't have an autoimmune disease. You're not at high risk. You're healthy. Your blood work looks perfect. You know, you're exercising. Your inflammatory markers are all within normal range. Your C-reactive proteins, your CBK is down. Your liver function's off the charts. And I wouldn't say that we had an argument, but we had a, we had a very, you know, know, intense conversation. Lauren was a part of this and his doctor was adamant about the booster. Now he'd already had COVID and he already also had the initial vaccine, the two vaccines.

1:12:16And

1:12:17Gary Brecka:then sadly, you know, he, he got the booster and developed something called thromalytic thromocytopenia. How do you guys manage all of that? Like, how do you, with what you guys do, what, what, do you not touch it with a 10 foot pole? Do you do it behind closed doors and have conversations? You know, always be honest. And so will she. When people just ask for advice and guidance, we're always honest. You know, and sometimes it creates a lot of friction. Like we truly feel like we don't have any competitors. And when I say don't have any competitors, I don't mean we're better than anyone else. I believe that there are so many people out there that are doing good things and doing the right thing for humanity.

1:12:56Gary Brecka:Like all those brands I've just shouted out, we have no affiliation with any of them. You know, when I sent you to Thorne, I don't have an affiliate link with that. I mean, when we send you to peer encapsulations, that's created a lot of friction for us in some, some business relationships we've had, because I think that advice needs to be truly authentic. Like if you feel that symbiotica has the best charcoal binder, then you should send people to symbiotica. I mean, you know, if you feel like Next Health has the best therapeutic positive exchange, you should send people to Next Health. And we've had a history of doing that.

1:13:28Gary Brecka:And so we're very straightforward with clients that we work with. But in terms of someone that we haven't really been able to help, I mean. I remember one, I don't even remember their names, but the husband, it was, you know, a couple came in and, you know, the team put together a great protocol and the husband was on it. And I remember like he lost a bunch of weight. He felt great. He had energy back. Libido came back, like all these great things and he's like i feel amazing but my wife refuses to do any of it and that was a struggle for them and it was i remember you know they got on the phone and and he was like can you basically can you talk to my wife about this and get on her and i think you ended up kind of firing i fired her as a patient this is all not worth our time i mean i guess what i was maybe asking and if i wasn't clear i'm sorry was more of like are there conditions that you can't like if like Like there's thyroid, you can help, but there's anxiety or there's high blood pressure.

1:14:30Are there things where when somebody calls you that are common issues that people have, and you're like, listen, this is not what I do. And you got to - Yeah, outside the box. Yeah, there's those that are outside the box,

1:14:39Gary Brecka:but there's always something that you can do for the host. Like for example, I wouldn't treat somebody for cancer. I wouldn't care for somebody with cancer. However, the majority of conventional cancer treatments and therapies are going after the villain. They're not caring for the host. And we don't develop a care plan for the person and for the cancer. We developed a care plan for the cancer. And I have a very close friend of mine documenting it. I'm sure he wouldn't mind me talking about it. You know, who is right now is dying of cancer. And he's been a 35-year best friend of mine. You know, we've known each other since we were very young, pledged the same fraternity to get together.

1:15:14Gary Brecka:He didn't catch it until late stage. So he has late stage, stage four metastatic cancer and it's already spread. And so he was at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale and we went out and we went out to see him. She even did a post about the food they were feeding him. Okay. Can we just touch on that for a half a second? We walk in. He's in like the ICU unit of Cancer Wing or whatever. The Mayo Clinic. Sorry, Mayo Clinic. But we walk in and his lunch was three jars of red Jell-O, a thing of applesauce, and a ginger ale. Seagram's ginger ale with 54 grams of sugar. when he was having like a burping thing like he was like I had painful burps and he asked the doctor about it because you know he's just asking the doctor all the things they're like well we'll give you a pill to stop the burping or whatever go how about I don't feed the guy who's ginger ale like with all this sugar you've got cancer cancer feeds on sugar what is this and I did a post about it and I don't do that a lot I try to really keep a happy thread of things but I posted I was like, this is not okay.

1:16:19And it started quite the conversation of people saying, yeah, this is BS that, you know, my kid had cancer or my grandparents or, you know, a spouse. And that's the same thing. Like for dinner one night, he had a, they gave him an option of a vanilla milkshake. So you had vanilla ice cream, probably cheap peanut butter and Hershey syrup because they wanted it to put on weight.

1:16:42Gary Brecka:And this is in the ICU at Mayo Clinic. I was like, what is this? So when you guys came in, what were the tools that you gave him? So when we came in, first of all, we needed to be in the room with him and his family when Mayo came in and said the really hard things, which was essentially six months, maybe a year with massive chemotherapy, surgical resection, radiation. And I believe that that shoe needed to drop because his will to live is unbreakable now. And so I found him, a colleague of mine who's a naturopathic oncologist. I also found a fully board-certified oncologist. I found a board-certified interventional radiologist.

1:17:25Gary Brecka:And we collectively put together a care plan. So essentially, as soon as he was stable enough to get out of Mayo, I hired him a full-time... Which they did do a good job of that. They did. I mean, he was septic. They stabilized him. They saved his life. So shout out to Mayo Clinic for saving my friend's life. But as soon as he was out, we developed a really aggressive care plan. So he has a keto chef that makes all of his meals, microgreens. It's very, very clean ketogenic diet that he's on. I shipped him a red light therapy bed. He sleeps on a PEMF mat. He has a surgically clean air filter in his room.

1:17:57Gary Brecka:I put water filtration in his house so that he has four stage reverse osmosis water filter. I add hydrogen gas to his water before he drinks it. I'm a huge believer in hydrogen gas. I think it's probably the greatest health hack that nobody's doing right now. And then what we did was he, you know, now that he's on keto and he has all of these things at home, instead of doing surgical resection of all of these tumors, the interventional radiologist goes in with a, with a catheter and actually cryo ablates the blood supply to these tumors. So you use argon gas, which just freezes them. This outpatient walks in and walks out.

1:18:33Gary Brecka:Then we developed a whole care plan for him as a host. So he gets regular EBO2 ozone therapy. So his blood is taken out. It's run through a blood filter. And then he gets ozone gas added to it. And it goes back in the other side. If you look at the amount of mold, mycotoxins, heavy metals, parasites, viral pathogens, BPAs, glyphosate, jet fuel that came out of his blood, it is mind-blowing. Why jet fuel? Because they're in accelerants. They're in hairsprays. They're in aerosols. there's aluminum in the hair. Stop with the hairspray. This is your sign. Don't start with me again.

1:19:14Please stop with the hairspray. So we did something about the viber and wellness. Please stop with the hairspray. I had to shut it down.

1:19:20Gary Brecka:You know, when fish get sick, we clean the tank and we don't just treat the fish, right? We clean the environment up. When humans get sick, we treat the human. Radynology. We never clean the tank. And so, if you look at when he started doing these blood filtration and you can get Eboo anywhere. I'm sure there's one clinic that does it within five miles of here. And when we started ozonating his blood, when he started getting the heavy metals, the mold spores, the mycotoxins, the viral pathogens, we started clearing these things out of his blood. All of his biomarkers came back. His stools returned to normal.

1:19:53Gary Brecka:And now the next phase is an additional blood filtration technology that's gonna take the circulating tumor cells out of the blood. And then we are enrolling him in a program called immunosyn, which is, by the way, this is all being supervised by U.S. medical doctors that are licensed to practice medicine, that are board certified in oncology. And what this is, is the belief that we believe more in what God gave us than what man makes us. And if we can get the immune system to identify the cancer as a foreign pathogen, then the immune system will do the dirty work. So there's something called dendritic cell vaccine, which is in the immune system, a dendritic cell is kind of like the cell that runs to the front lines and looks at what uniform the enemy is wearing and then goes back to the base camp and tells all the troops, hey, this is what you're looking for.

1:20:42Gary Brecka:Go kill them. It's like a scout. And it tells the natural killer cells, this is the uniform the enemy's marrying. So you take a sample of the cancer and you take their own immune cells. You introduce them. You have the immune system identify the cancer as a foreign antibody and then you expand those immune cells and you put them back into their into the person's body and the immune system turns on the cancer so that is our path um all outside the us and those two two parts of that treatment are done outside the u.s because we already knew what the alternative was right so it's six months maybe maybe a year so Why not just try everything?

1:21:23Why not try the thing? Yep.

1:21:24Gary Brecka:So, again, you know, it's just in caring for the host, his whole life has turned around already. He's a different human being today than even when he found out about the diagnosis. He's strong, his protein markers are good, his blood is alkaline, his color is back. Mental health is positive. What a rewarding situation you guys are in. It's really cool to watch and to see. Yeah. I mean, I think even just this podcast, everyone who's listening has got to have learned something before you go i have one question about hydrogen michael overdosed he got gas can you tell us the perfect i was taking too much of it at one point yeah yes he took too much so you can take too much right so you know i use the h2 tabs i brought you guys a bunch of those i had the raspberry one yeah the raspberry's good amazing So it's elemental magnesium.

1:22:20Gary Brecka:You drop it into your water and it makes high part per million hydrogen gas. Okay. And if you look at the studies on hydrogen gas, I mean, I think there's two categories of people. People that are not drinking hydrogen water because they haven't read the research and the people that have read the research and drink it every single day. Because it is the lightest, most prevalent element in the universe. 10 % of your body weight is hydrogen. It's hard to hurt yourself with hydrogen. So how did he hurt himself? I didn't hurt myself. I just took too much. Yeah, you had too much of an antioxidant effect.

1:22:48Huh.

1:22:48Gary Brecka:So hydrogen gas is a selective antioxidant. So in other words, it doesn't lower the normal oxidative stressors. It lowers the bad oxidative stressors, the hydroxy radicals. So if you just take one of those magnesium tablets, drop it in water in the morning, we do it every day. And if you're flying, always take one on a flight. It will completely negate the effects of travel, the radiation, the static electricity, the barometric pressure, and the dry air. Which is the first thing in the morning, just pop it. Just the first thing in the morning, drop one. I might have to steal some from you. It's like a dollar a day.

1:23:20The great thing, too, is it helps you absorb your vitamins better. But a big note that I'll talk about is my daughter last year, we went skiing, and she got tonsillitis. And then she got strep throat and another round of tonsillitis, and it was just back and forth. Poor baby. I don't know how she was able to breathe. Her throat was so swollen all the time. and of course every doctor was like you're gonna have to have tonsil surgery we're gonna have to take them out and we i have to give dave asprey a shout out today because we had dinner with him last night and i told him this story that he said on a podcast with gary about it potentially being mold related and that's why we couldn't get it to go away so we ended up doing a mold like detox protocol with her and then she took those h2 tabs and i had her where she would do like two or three at a time three at a time gargle with it and then swallow it and i'm telling you like between those two things in the last month massively massive difference i am so excited because i was terrified i didn't want her to have to have the surgery and it's totally it's lowered the inflammation in her throat and it's i mean it's honestly the best it's ever looked it's crazy you guys are amazing can we get a code i didn't ask you this can we get code skinny i think i gave it last

1:24:42Gary Brecka:time, but I'll put code skinny. And if anyone signs up for my VIP program, which is essentially my online coaching program, then I'll send them a free box of H2 tabs. So if they sign up for VIP and put a code skinny, I'll send them a free box of H2 tabs. If they just want to buy H2 tabs, I'll give them code skinny. They can use code skinny. What's the website? Theultimatehuman.com. Theultimatehuman.com. Go get the hydrogen tablets. I'm also going to buy the TMG for my dad. and then if people want to say hi to you guys separately on Instagram where can they find you I'm just at Gary Brecca I'm at Sage S-A-G-E Workinger Brecca because I haven't fully transferred my name out she's added the Brecca finally but I added the Brecca changing her name for another time is not easy we got married and her she didn't change her maiden name for like what two or three years but it was legally I like to play tricks I'm like Instagram was easy you know but well we got turned around going through TSA the other day because like you know the ID didn't match the you know the ticket and they literally would not let her go I have a spreadsheet going of like all the things I gotta go and attack to change my name it's a lot of work it's not a joke you guys are great on a mic where can everyone find your podcast leave us with that come back anytime thank you theultimatehuman.com and we'll see you in Miami in the oxygen chamber not in your bedroom next time we'll do the podcast in the hyperbaric chamber.

1:26:10Gary Brecka:Done. Sold. Deal. Done. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. Yeah, you're welcome.