How To Boost Cellular Energy, Heal Your Nervous System, & Restore Mind-Body-Spirit Balance With Sound Frequency

16:26Laura Widney:I'm protecting my family.

16:28Henry Penix:It's a good thing to do, Lauren. We've had Navy SEALs and military men and police officers come on the show and they say situational awareness is important. We literally were watching a little princess for family movie night with popcorn and snacks in our pajamas the other night and you were doing it and I'm like there's nothing I'm like he was doing saber tooth and I was like there's there's literally nothing he's he he can't help it I think it might be unresolved childhood something so was that right before you pulled your back I'm just curious we're gonna get to the root of this issue I pulled my back a month ago and then I didn't listen to myself and then I re-injured it on Saturday but it was after Little Princess isn't that movie about like the dad going off to war and never coming home it's a little stressful but why are you showing this to our children i think we're uncovering some stuff i mean listen there's no doubt that i have unresolved trauma we all do all that's very natural though because you know

17:26Laura Widney:our our brains our dna even in our dna we're depending on your belief system we're thousands millions billions of years old and we're programmed to do that it's it's the fight or flight we're program to protect ourselves because you know back in the day where you've got saber-toothed tigers literally coming at you and sometimes that's handed down through your dna and we learn through epigenetics you know we've studied that a lot where you can change your that dna strand by virtue of your environment so you don't have to just accept well my mom did it her mom did it her mom did it her mom did it you can actually control that and change that through your environment through rest and digest through sleeping properly through meditating what you think about you bring about through frequency therapies like all of that stuff is is created today to help you unravel some of that stuff and not just be a victim of your past but a victor of

18:27Henry Penix:your future i think we should talk about you're saying yeah what you think about you bring about Talk a little bit more about that because I'm a huge believer in that. Talk about that.

18:36Laura Widney:Yeah, well, mindfulness is one of the most important tenets of SOAP technologies. And our saying around the office is what you think about, you bring about. Because so many things, so many ways you interpret things will show up in your life as maybe a physical symptom later or a problem or whatever. So that door could open and two of us could think about there's somebody intruding. We're going to have to fight. Two of us, you know, other people could be thinking it's my kid walking through the door. You know, it's going to be fine. But what you think about how you interpret that, you actually bring about.

19:12Laura Widney:And you've counseled a lot of people on this.

19:14Henry Penix:Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, it's crazy because we create. We create our reality around us. So where your energy, where your focus goes, your energy flows. And so I love this. Joe Dispenza, I don't know if you guys are familiar with him, but he is amazing and teaches all about the science of this exact topic. But he talks about how when you have a heightened emotion and you're intending on something at the moment, that is exactly what you're creating. So in that moment of your saber-toothed tiger issue or moment. Issue.

19:47Laura Widney:Thank you. You're giving her ammunition. I'm trying to tread lightly, but it is an issue. Michael, we'll get back out of there. I'll get our door.

19:55Henry Penix:In that moment, you are creating your reality. And so if you're ready and you're thinking, oh, something's going to happen, something's going to happen, and you have that heightened emotion, you actually can feel the adrenaline come up in the body. That is what you're going to create. So eventually that situation or scenario might happen to you, which as me and Lauren, that situation will never happen because we are not creating that reality for ourselves. We're creating a different reality. And so it's so important for people to understand how powerful their minds are, how powerful their bodies are, and how easy it is to manifest things.

20:30Henry Penix:You know, it's just that heightened emotion. So if you have a heightened emotion of, you know, let's say you're in a Zen place and you're full of joy and love, you know, it's something where you can do it in your daily life. So it's like if you're looking at your baby in that moment, that 20 seconds where you're looking at your baby and you're like, I just love her. I love, you know, that feeling of like that joy that you really don't get throughout the rest of the day, take that moment, take that emotion and manifest, intend something for your life. This day is going to go beautiful because it's that heightened emotion.

21:01Henry Penix:So your energy field is expanded. Your heart chakra is expanded. And so that is where you attract exactly what you're feeling in that moment. So if you then take your mind and you think this day is going to go amazing or this business deal is going to come through when you have that heightened emotion, that is your best chance of manifestation it's the heightened emotion plus the intention paired at the same time that's like the magic that's what joe dispensa teaches it's so true what's interesting about as you were talking i was telling lauren this the other day so and this is i don't even know if i can even articulate this the right way so you might have to plug in the gaps or read between the lines or the tea leaves but this is our third child right and i'm in the middle of this process throw my back out a lot of stress a lot of things going on but But I also, during this period, achieved a bunch of great things that I was working on.

21:54Henry Penix:And what I realized when I was reflecting, I was like, oh, with our first child, I was also in a bunch of pain and turmoil, but then also made something happen. Then second child, same thing. Third one. Now it's like, there's these moments in time. I think the moment is, at least for me, there's a new person coming into the picture. It adds more responsibility to me. The emotion matches the action that I need to do in a very short period of time. and then a big thing happens but it comes with a lot of this cost that i haven't figured out but as you were talking i was like well why can't i just make that action or that thing happen all the time but not in such a dysregulated does this make sense what i'm saying it's like almost like the life event of the child creates this thing where then i have to take these kind of like massive steps in a short period that come with a cost yes but actually then in turn like i get a lot of the things that i'm working on done yeah makes total sense yeah it's like that grit and determination is so strong on you in that moment because this it's it's do or die time you have to get this done and that is why the energy and that emotion is so strong and then your intent is is stronger in that moment because you have to get it done before this date it's a tunnel that yes that that is the power in manifestation is that emotion plus the intention so in these moments where you have a ticking you know a ticking clock you get stuff done no matter what the emotion really you're you are intending so you know she was giving me shit she's like oh my god every time i'm pregnant you're like doing that but then i started to think i'm like well there's a pattern to that right like every time there's a baby coming there's a thing going on yes are you sure it's not because you need a little bit of attention because i'm getting the attention no i think it's i think what it is but i've now that i've analyzed it it's like this greater purpose and urgency with an intense focus on a constricted timeline to do something right So if you have a baby every year, he is going to rule the world.

23:49Laura Widney:He's going to have to get a milkmaid. We also, I grew up, my father was a pastor. I don't know if you guys knew that. I didn't know that. Yeah, I grew up in the church and we were talking earlier about playing music and doing all this stuff. So I've always loved music, always had an ear for that. But I've always heard him teach about how all things work together for our good as well. and no matter how painful something is in the moment, if you look for what lesson you're learning from that or what you can see, maybe that turned you to the right and you were going to go to the left. I recently really hurt my rib.

24:24Laura Widney:I was, you know, same thing, working out, pushing limits, all that. And, uh, and it kind of grounded me for four or five days. And I thought I've got to do so much. Like I would have been doing this, this, this, and this. And I stopped myself and I stopped all the chaos going off in my mind. And I said, okay, what can I learn from this. What can I do? I know that all things work for my good. I know this is going to be good for me. And I sat there, Michael, and created two or three things for our business that I would have never had that time to sit down and create if that hadn't have happened.

24:54So some people say,

24:56Laura Widney:well, that was bad. I'm sorry it did this. And I look at it opposite. I say, this is great. It's given me the opportunity to do something else.

25:02Henry Penix:I think that that's a really good tip.

25:05Laura Widney:No, I think it's great advice.

25:07Henry Penix:Anyone who, I think that you can turn charcoal into gold with anything if you're clever enough. Yes.

25:14Laura Widney:Exactly.

25:14Henry Penix:I really believe that. If you think about it. There is that, what you did, how you sat there and you had space to think and clarity that you were clever to use that time. When people come to both of you at this point and you work with a lot of people and help people get on the right path and they say, okay, easy for you to say, you think that way. I don't. I have these circumstances. is you don't, how do you kind of snap them out of that and get them to start looking at the good or what's coming to them as opposed to just focusing on what's not? Yeah.

25:42Laura Widney:Well, you have to listen to them first and let them know that we're, we are all equal. You know, a lot of times people see people in the limelight or behind the mic and say, oh, you guys got it made. You never have a problem, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But that's not true. We have the same problems, everybody else. We get up every day. We have to deal with our kids. We have to deal with life. We have to with bills we have to deal with you know all these things so just letting people know that everybody's equal on the same level firstly and then because of that we can relate to each other like i can i can share with you things that i do that will work just as easy in your life as they had in mine it's not because i'm at you know the guy behind the mic or leading the company or or doing dishes or cleaning toilets it doesn't matter like we're all equal and i think if you something else my father taught me.

26:31Laura Widney:If you act out of an unconditional loving heart, no matter what you do, people are going to be more receptive. When they know you care, when they know you're coming from that level of what can I do to really help you, no strings attached.

26:46Henry Penix:Don't you think that that's a frequency that humans put out? Because I think that I'm so into hurts and frequencies, as you You guys know we listen to them every single night the whole time we sleep. But what I've found is with interactions, especially interviewing people, there's a frequency. And sometimes it's amazing and sometimes it's frenetic and sometimes it's the energy's off. But the frequency, a lot of it comes from the person. Do you feel that?

27:16Laura Widney:A thousand percent. That's why somebody can walk into a room and change the atmosphere of the room.

27:21Henry Penix:Yeah, absolutely.

27:22Laura Widney:And you can get somebody and say, oh my gosh, what's wrong with him or her? and the whole frequency of the room kind of starts to dip a little bit or you can get somebody that walks in and has life and love and gratitude in their heart and they're going, I want to be around that guy. Like I don't care. So the science says, and we could measure this stuff now with all the computing and everything that we have to measure with, but science says now we could measure three to six feet out from our heart. You've got a certain frequency that emanates from your heart, three to six feet out that people can actually feel.

27:53Laura Widney:and and that's a that that shocked me like i i didn't know it was that far and more messages go from your heart to your brain than your brain to your heart it's so funny you say that because i

28:03Henry Penix:walked in him and your son was here and he did that verse i walked out and i was walking the bathroom like oh my back feels good for a second and i swear to god i swear to god i know but i but i was like oh maybe i'm getting better and i swear to god but because you walk in this

28:17Laura Widney:is pure good energy that's right yeah no we we had him memorize john 3 16 and when when i have him do that with people it wasn't by accident i had him even do that in this room because it

28:27Henry Penix:changed the frequency of the room just fyi we just immediately walk in and feel good but people will

28:33Laura Widney:will hear him repeat that hudson this is for you son um people will hear him repeat that and they'll like i've seen people get chills i've seen people reach out and want to hug him or touch him or be there because of the purity, because it is God's word, because it's life, it's love, and there's no strings attached. He really is doing it because he loves it. And I think if we act that way in our day-to-day lives, it's different. You do put out that frequency. You can change your room for the better. You can change your relationship for the better. And even little, like I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm like sarcastic sometimes to her.

29:09Laura Widney:And she has taught me to watch my mouth because even if I'm joking around or say something snarky to her, it still changes the atmosphere of the room. Even if it's a joke. I said, it's a joke, like lighten up, but it changed that moment and it changed the frequency of our relationship. So I've had to watch my mouth more because I'm a quick thinker. I want to get back. I want to, you know, and it's all good and fun and all that. And there's limits. I'm not trying to go away, either side of the paradigm here on you, but she's taught me to watch what I say because there's power in our words.

29:43Henry Penix:I think that you guys should just give us compliments all the time and that frequency will really elevate us to be our best. Your skin is glowing.

29:53Laura Widney:You're beautiful. This is the best I've ever seen you look. I don't know about that. You've got the glow. You are the most beautiful pregnant woman.

30:00Henry Penix:She was saying that you and I should just give our significant others compliments all day long. But you know, I think that's a two-way street. By the way, just if anyone's listening, their son, Hudson, shared a Bible verse with us and he's three and a half years old. So that's what we're referring to where it made Michael's back feel better. John 316. When I walked in the room, when I wasn't expecting to see a young child, and immediately you're just like, oh, it's like a happy environment, right? That's one of the best things about having kids, by the way, is you just see pure, innocent, happy energy.

30:32Henry Penix:You can see it through them too. especially if you do mushrooms and the next day you go home and then you look at your kids if you do mushrooms go home the next day after don't go home on mushrooms the next day we went home and i was like looking at my kids and i was like oh my it's like it's like you can see through them it's the weirdest that's cool that's a frequency it totally is you know and going back to your question earlier you know how can people change their perspective if they're like really rooted in, you know, not so great feelings or not so happy emotions. It's, first of all, anything is possible.

31:10Henry Penix:Absolutely anything is possible. And all you have to do is change your perception. So you can see one thing, maybe it's an apple. You know, everybody can see it completely different. Your perception of it could be, oh, that's old. It's getting dark. It's not as red as it could be. Mine is like, I'm so hungry. It's just juicy. And I know that's going to be so delicious and this could be completely different. You know, it's, it is your perception.

31:34Laura Widney:Michael says, what's at the core of that?

31:36Henry Penix:I wonder if it's back hurts. Lauren actually doesn't like when I crunch apples. Okay. So she might not like the apple just because of you. So you see what I mean? It's all about perception. So if you understand anything is possible and you choose in your mind, it is willpower. That's where it starts. I'm going to change my perception of this situation. I'm going to pick out one thing that I could be grateful for. I'm grateful that it's going to nourish me. I'm grateful for whatever. Like you can find one thing to be grateful for whatever it is the situation is. And that right there starts the change.

32:11Henry Penix:And if you make that a habit of acting and reacting from that place instead of just digging your heels and being the way you are, change. And try that perpetuates a higher frequency. So let's play a game. Okay. so michael's been sending me screenshots of ai chat gpt of all the bad things that can happen when you hurt your back that's not true okay what are you been sending i'm gonna read them so be careful chat gpt has been my yeah medical counselor okay telling me what to do i look at sending me things about surgery and herniated discs no i didn't go pull it up okay go pull it up i'm gonna pull it up it's telling me how to what's interesting about chat gpt and i know you guys are working on an AI thing as well, which I want to talk about.

32:56But I will go there before

32:59Henry Penix:I'll go to my doctor these days. I'll be like, what would you do? And then I'll ask the doctor what the doctor thinks. Same, same. It's crazy. This was today's. While most herniated discs heal on their own within 12 weeks, some severe herniations require longer term treatment. That is literally what he said. So here's the game. I sent you that to show you that it's not an overnight heal. It takes time. So here's what I... This is going to help everyone who has an issue in their life. If you have an issue in your life and you're focused because it's so painful, whether emotional or physical pain, and you're so focused on that pain that you almost can't see anything else, what would you guys recommend to get you out of that?

33:44Henry Penix:Besides changing your mindset and saying I'm so grateful. What are tools that someone can do? So if it were me, I would do, I mean, the frequencies obviously are passive and they work so well without you having to do anything. So that's really helpful because when you are down, it's really hard to muster up the willpower to do something. So that's why we love the frequencies. But to go a step further, I love meditation. I would Google a Joe Dispenza meditation on back pain and sit there and And let him and put your headphones in and let him just walk you through a meditation on back pain. Because he hurt his back.

34:18Henry Penix:Because, I mean, I believe that is the most powerful thing you can do is do a meditation and be very specific on, you know, I have back pain or my shoulders hurt or, you know, whatever it is you're trying to do. And meditate because it's when you're quiet and when you're still. and when your intention is locked in with an emotion that's when the autonomic nervous system and the whole entire body can relax and be in a state of not not fight or fight or flight but calm and rest and digest that that right there is when the body can heal and joe dispens is so cool but all of his meditations and and testimonials he has so many people that do one or two meditations and get completely healed like yeah this she's she's i've heard this is an amazing tip i have because the energy they're moving that energy out it's so cool no i have no doubt about the power of that but lauren i guess and listen this is i'm gonna move on from this issue but i will be like i have here i'm like somebody shot me in the shoulder and i have a gunshot when she's like well if you just thought about it differently it wouldn't be there and i'm like no i'm bleeding everywhere it is here i just think in the moment i need medical adventure right look i'm hurt she's like you big baby no i i get what you're saying but i do think that if anyone's listening and they're in any kind of pain emotional physical whatever it is you're right you can google a meditation on whatever that is yes i'm clearing your head and relaxing your nervous system would be good all agree agreed upon points but sometimes you actually have a real injury that needs to be

35:56Laura Widney:Yeah, I've actually got a backstory that I hurt my back like horrible. We came back to talk about backs. No, the back episode. No, this is very important and I hope you get something out of it. And this is very near and dear to my heart. But when I was in my 20s and I grew up playing all sports, I was athletic, working out, all this stuff. And over time, I had hurt my back really bad. I had two vertebrates that had fused and there was a pinched nerve and I was going to have to have surgery. went to a chiropractor for two years and he had all the x-rays down he said this is getting worse worse worse and so i was in college and i came back to town and i i went to my father's little storefront office church area and i said dad i'm you know i've lost like 25 30 pounds i couldn't go to my classes in the morning at school i'd have to get up 30 minutes before and hang on one of those inverted where you put on the, the, your, your shoes and hang that way from your heels, just trying to stretch it out.

36:53Laura Widney:Yeah. I couldn't, I couldn't hardly function. And, uh, I, I went to him and I said, I'm, I'm here and I'm going to, you know, I need to have back surgery. And he said, would you like me to pray for you? And, um, I get emotional thinking about it, but he reached over and had like a two minute prayer and that was close to 40 years ago and I've never had a back pain since I went back to my chiropractor and he said what did you do because he showed me my back with the fused vertebrates and he showed me a perfect backbone and he said this is your back now and I said I was healed where do we find this guy no it it's

37:38Henry Penix:Where can we find, can we get Hudson to do this over his back? Okay, let me tell you this.

37:44Laura Widney:So this guy, he had just gone through a divorce, split the church. My mind said, there's no way this could ever work. Like I wasn't going into it thinking it would work. That's the thing. I was a little upset. I was just going by as a courtesy when he had a two-minute prayer with me and it totally healed me, totally documented. I thought I can never judge the person or where it's coming from. I have to turn my attention onto my heavenly father who created me, who's made with unconditional love, and I've got to receive it from him. So my father was a vessel. I've seen him pray for other people.

38:27Laura Widney:People have been healed. He went on a 40-day water-only fast twice. Water-only twice. The doctor said, unless God's told you to do this, you better not do it. But he was committed. But what that taught me, Lauren, was where can I get a hold of this guy? That guy, that creator is in all of us right now. And as we can tap into that and pull from that unconditional love of God that wants us healed, that wants us whole, we can be made whole.

39:00Henry Penix:So maybe I'll pray over you tonight. You should.

39:03Laura Widney:every night.

39:04Henry Penix:That's a very good skin. Pray over me or to me? Over him, right?

39:08Laura Widney:Yeah, because that's in you.

39:10Henry Penix:My daughter, they would like that.

39:13Laura Widney:You come into an agreement with him?

39:14Henry Penix:Well, listen, I think whatever way you find faith or a higher power or inspiration or whatever you may call it, I think that it's not good when humanity moves away from that kind of thing. So I don't push religion or my perspective or faith on anyone. But I don't think it does us any good to block that part of our psyche off. Correct. And the more disconnected you get from, call it nature or a higher power, whatever it may be, I think the harder it is to kind of make sense of a lot of things that happen in life in general. Right. So having that, like I was listening to somebody talk and they're saying, listen, if you're out there and you're trying to do hard things and get through a hard life and you just want to do it on your own, like that's a really hard way to go about it.

39:56Henry Penix:Like You need every kind of help and asset that you can get. So why not look to a higher power to help you do it? Yeah. You guys speak to people from all different backgrounds. You talk to biohackers, to spiritual seekers. What's the most shocking thing that you've seen from someone using a wellness method of frequencies? Oh, wow. Probably my favorite story is somebody that's close to us. It was his ex-wife at the time was in the hospital. and he was pretty desperate. She was in a ton of pain on a ton of morphine and he took her the frequencies. He's like last resort. I don't know what else to do.

40:35Henry Penix:Took her the frequencies and she played the pain support frequency and all pain was gone completely. When morphine wouldn't work. When morphine wouldn't work. And you would know this guy

40:48Laura Widney:if I said his name. He's a very high level celebrity.

40:52Henry Penix:They were open, you know open to the things you know more wooey things you know but it was like last resort they she was just in so much pain and so that's one of my favorite like whoa he called us and was just

41:05Laura Widney:like you guys oh my gosh she requested it every day for him to come back and play that which

41:09Henry Penix:frequency was it so i can play the pain support the pain support yeah so it's just the pain support on the app yeah okay for anyone who is unfamiliar with frequencies i i have talked about my love of 528 frequency. I've talked about the love of your app. I use it all the time. What is a frequency in a very digestible term? Yes. Very long story short, we came from a clinic. We still have our clinic. And so we did frequency therapy in clinic where somebody would come and sit down, they would put on bone conducting headsets or headphones, and they would sit and they would listen to a frequency, which is a hertz.

41:45Henry Penix:So a hertz is a waveform. It's actually a sound that's in a waveform waveform and depending on the number. So there's 528, there's 432, there's 1000, there's all different numbers of Hertz. And so it's a waveform. So when you listen, it actually is, it's helping your cells oscillate at a proper frequency. So you can imagine our bodies are energy and we're spinning wheels of energy. So, you know, the chakras are all spinning wheels of energy. Our cells are all spinning wheels of energy. So yeah, we have trillions and trillions of cells in our bodies and they're all spinning and communicating with each other.

42:22Henry Penix:And so our frequencies are also talking to our cells, helping them oscillate properly. So if your energy is chaotic, they're oscillating not properly, like all in disarray. So our frequencies are telling them, hey, go in a circle, go in a circle. This is the frequency. This is how fast you're supposed to be spinning. This is the hertz you're supposed to be spinning at. And when that happens, your body is in alignment your energy is in alignment so a frequency is just a sound wave that you're listening to but our frequencies are different than just a just 528 hertz that you can find online their frequency composition so the cool part about so because we came in clinic and we created from our clinical background we we we created frequency compositions so ours are let's say the pain support pain support could be 20 different frequencies layered on top of each other based off of what our practitioners in clinic said, this is what causes pain.

43:15Henry Penix:This is what is making inflammation. This is, you know, everything that it could be and everything that could help. We had a frequency for it. And then we layered all those frequencies on top of each other and made it a composition. So that's what our frequencies are. They're all compositions. So it's not just one specific hertz. It's a myriad of frequencies created in clinic by our practitioners for a specific thing so digestive issues pain you know all the because if you took

43:44Laura Widney:one hertz just for one thing and said this is supposed to fix that you're missing the whole spectrum of what we do with our compositions that may be 20 of those because everybody responds to frequency different and you may be just a little different than somebody needing 528 or 432 or whatever but with 20 to pull from because they're adaptogenic they go to your body and your body uses them as it needs it and it discards the rest with no negative side effects. So those compositions will wrap up what you need and give you what you need when you need it. And we do that through something called entrainment and sympathetic resonance.

44:22Laura Widney:That simply means, I use the tuning fork as an example. If I hit this tuning fork and it's a tuning fork tuned to D and I hold another tuning fork up next to it, this other tuning fork without touching it is going to start to resonate from this one and you hear D in this one. So, so frequency compositions is the tuning fork that we strike. That's, that doesn't change. It's unrelenting because it can't change. It's digital. And if we play that next to your body cells, that can change because your mind will and emotions.

44:55Henry Penix:It kind of like snap dragons into you and the snap dragon forms to what you need. yes that's exactly right yeah yep the first way that i got introduced to which i you know and i'm sure many people if they have heard of this but if you're like hesitant at all about frequencies is with 40 hertz to focus yeah like someone's like hey play this when you want to work or you really want to get something done and i started doing it that was my first introduction that i realized what was your second i think the healing one was it the healing one yeah five two eight and he puts

45:23Laura Widney:them on every single night in our house right he puts on a frequency we pick what we need for the

45:29Henry Penix:night by the way i put it on in the whole when it's time to wind the kids down i put the the frequency on right now it like it changes the energy yeah but for people that are like you know i don't know how this sounds maybe sounds too woo put on 40 hertz when you have to have a big focus session on is there one on focus yeah yeah we have a focus frequency yeah we've about it 40

45:46Laura Widney:is the right one right or is it one of them they have one of them right that's our kind of our secret sauce of our you know up to 20 some have 25 in them that have they're layered they play at a certain cadence, certain timing, certain rate for your intended outcome.

46:00Henry Penix:Yeah. And the thing about ours, again, because we were in clinic, so focus, for example, you could play the 40 hertz for focus, but why are you not focusing? So that's what our practitioners did, our round table, and said, what are all the reasons you're not focusing? It could be dehydration. It could be, you know, your brain is firing a certain way. It could be X, Y, Z. So that's when we said all of these frequencies are going to help with every single issue that could be contributing to the lack of focus. And so then we put all of those together. So that's why our frequencies work so well is because maybe you don't need it for, you know, Z, you needed it for A.

46:40Henry Penix:Well, we have all of that in it. So your body's going to take and adapt to what it needs. And because if your body doesn't need it, it's already oscillating properly. So it's not going to do anything. It's just there. but if it needs it, it's going to help and train that cell to oscillate properly. And then that's when you're going to feel the difference. So before we started, you guys said off air that you have some new information to share around what you're doing about basically creating personal frequencies for each individual. Can you talk about that a little bit?

47:09Laura Widney:Yeah, this is the most exciting thing that we've done in all of our nine years of doing this, but we've actually created in our app. And by the time this airs, we'll be up and running. We created in our app something that will actually allow you to obtain your own frequency for the moment in the moment for what you need so coming out of clinic we we identified our top 30 symptoms the top 30 reasons people came in and those top ones were anxiety depression low energy low libido hormone support we've got 30 of them there's 30 buckets today you can choose from the app to you know to pick from we said what if if we could pull in hundreds of frequencies, what if we could pull from hundreds of buckets of frequencies based on the user's biometrics.

47:58Laura Widney:So based on the user's biometrics of heart rate, heart rate variability, how much sleep you got, we're going to look at those. We're going to use an element of AI and machine learning to identify exactly what you need when you need it. And we're going to serve it to you. That's huge. that that's something that that we don't think anybody has ever done we're pretty certain they've never done it and it takes you from self-diagnosing to having something figured out for yourself it's the it's the chat gpt that you use but says okay now that i've got this i'm going to create this for you and serve it the way we serve the compositions i'm going to pull all these that you need based on our soak specific algorithms and serve you what you need when you need it so So if it's in the morning and you need focus, you need to get up, you need to get going.

48:46Laura Widney:You can do an energy composition or whatever your body needs at that time. If you're winding down through, you know, we're in 190 countries now. I don't know if you know that. We're in 190 countries. And out of everything, we've got 41 million minutes of frequency therapy so far. The number one listened to is the sleep well. So if it's at night, you're drowsy or, you know, maybe you answer a couple of questions, and it reads your biometrics, you may get 90 % of what's in our sleepwell frequency composition now. There's going to be a couple that you wouldn't have received unless it would have read your specific biometrics to make it custom for you in the moment.

49:23Laura Widney:And that's what we're bringing to market.

49:25Henry Penix:That is intense. Really exciting. What is the pushback that you guys get when you say that you do frequency therapy? Because the thing that's I think probably difficult for you guys is It's almost, I don't think it's invisible, but people might think. Well, you're not prescribing a pill and you're not prescribing a quick fix. So is it like from the pharmaceutical industry? What's the pushback? You know, I think the most pushback is education or the lack thereof, I guess. Like, what is it? What is that? You know, that's what we hear a lot. What are frequencies? How do they work? You know, so it's, it's, we spend a lot of our efforts as a company educating, marketing.

50:02Henry Penix:That's why we do podcasts. You know, that's why we do stuff like this because we need to talk about it. People need to understand what it is. So I would say that would be most of our pushback. I don't know that it's pushback necessarily, but just, you know, people need that light bulb to go off in their head to say, this is real. This is scientifically proven now. We have a ton of scientific articles all over our website because there's so many scientific studies about frequencies now. Thank goodness. And so, yeah, I think that's probably is just the lack of education. Don't songs have frequencies too?

50:35Henry Penix:like when I go to the gym and there's there's loud cortisol inducing music is that that's a

50:42Laura Widney:frequency right yeah absolutely it's thousand percent when my grandma was in the hospital I

50:46Henry Penix:bought I got I bought a cd player and a Stan Getz bossa nova cd and I put it on and she kept requesting that I played the Stan Getz cd and I think when you take breaks I would come in with iron maiden and I remember this from the last one you like heavy metal and you like mexican I like bossa nova. I wonder what the frequency is of bossa nova though. How do you measure that? Well, you, yeah, you can measure. There is equipment that you can measure, but it's, but it is, it's, it's its own frequency. That's the cool part. So it's not like, unless they are layering like a 432 hertz frequency behind or under their music, it is their own frequency.

51:24Henry Penix:It's like their own frequency blueprint.

51:26Laura Widney:It's the frequency of the instrument or of the sound or whatever's coming out. But we, with our dual frequency, you can now turn on one of our compositions and take it down to level one. It's kind of like the dog whistle, like your cells can hear it even if you can't. Take it to level one and then turn on the bossa nova. Turn on Iron Maiden. That's so cool. And listen to it at the same time. And you'll be getting that frequency therapy in the background while you're listening to your favorite music.

51:50Henry Penix:I said, Nan, I should just calm down. This one's called Run to the Hills. Quickly, but I think this is important to say. There's so many individuals, Let's take sleep, for example. There's so many people that struggle with sleep and anxiety and not being able to get a good night's rest. And they go and there's nothing. I'm not saying this is not a step that might need to exist down the line for someone. But they go get some kind of prescription or some kind of anti-anxiety mat, which again, maybe there's a time place. But wouldn't it be great if as a first step, you could do something like this and potentially heal your sleep or your anxiety and get better rest without having to go to that?

52:25Henry Penix:And maybe eventually you need to go to that step. But if you could do this in an interim, like we as a people are so quick to jump to the prescription, the pill and the thing. And when I talk to someone like my dad or someone who, I don't want to pick on my dad, anyone that's a little bit like, why would I dry that? It's like, well, what if you could do this and then not have to get to that other step?

52:44Laura Widney:Right. And some people can't even digest things like that. Like some people literally can't take the medicine and we're not against medicines in the right time, place and all of that. But we do see a huge shift to a more holistic approach to taking your health in your own hands. And frequency plays into that. We had a one-star general. We're completing our second contract for the U.S. Air Force. And we had a one-star general come to Tulsa. And he said, I can't sleep. He said, I wasn't able to sleep since I was at 9-11. He was the first boots on the ground. He said, I can't unsee these things that are in my mind.

53:20Laura Widney:He said, 30 days ago, I went off Ambien. We're not telling people to do this either. You're really not supposed to do this. He went totally off Ambien, started listening to this sleep well frequency with Soak, slept every night. He said, I'm sleeping like a teenager, eight hours a night where before I could only sleep three or four. I was always interrupted, came to Tulsa, Oklahoma to see who were the people creating these things. And that was a huge testimonial. So out of 190 countries, our sleep well is the number one played frequency. And we find, Michael, that if you can get a good night's sleep, good deep REM sleep, where your cells are restored and healed and all that, and your mind's relaxed, that a lot of times anxiety, depression, cortisol spike, all that stuff will go away just from a great night's sleep.

54:10Laura Widney:And that's probably why our number one listened to frequency right now is the sleep well frequency.

54:15Henry Penix:And the reason I mentioned it, and I won't go in the backstory again, but when I tell people that I'm in pain, the first response is, oh, are you on pain meds? Did somebody give you like something? Exactly. And it's a normal thing for a lot of society to ask, like, oh, what medication? I'm like, well, there is a time and place. I'm not saying people don't need meds, and I'm not saying that they shouldn't use these tools if they absolutely need them. But there's a lot of things like this that you can look into before jumping to that. We're just so quick to jump to the meds. And I think it's important, too, because it's a long term thing that you do.

54:45Henry Penix:So the habits that you create, create your 90 year old self or 80 year old self. And so if you always choose, you know, holistic, then you're probably going to be a healthier body 50 years from now. If you're always choosing something that has side effects and that breaks the body down, like prescription medication, it's hard, very hard on the liver. It's hard on your organs. You know, 50 years from now, your body might look a little bit different. And so that's something that we think about coming from clinic. It's like it's habits. So how often do you want to take a Tylenol? How often does your back hurt?

55:16Henry Penix:Maybe once a month, maybe once a week. So if these are habitual things that you do, that's why we're so passionate. Because it's like here, this is something holistic that has absolutely no side effects, but good. So try to choose something holistic first and get into that habit. And then if you need something stronger, then take it to the next level. But it's just creating good habits. That stuff is always available. It's funny because he was even taking something that's over the counter, which is as simple as Tylenol. You look at Tylenol, you're like, it's harmless. Yeah. But then we went out to dinner and him and his friends are having martinis.

55:48Henry Penix:And I'm like, you cannot have one sip of alcohol on acetaphenamine.

55:54Laura Widney:Yep.

55:54Henry Penix:Not one. And anyone can go Google this. I did it once at 21 and my liver hurt. Yes. And I couldn't figure out why. And it was because acetaphenamine does not mix with alcohol. You aren't even supposed to take it on a Monday and drink on a Wednesday. Your liver can't process it. I guarantee you, though, 80 % of people who are listening don't even know that. I didn't know that. If you're going to do it, you have to take Advil instead, which is probably not great for you either. If I was going to brag for my liver, I would say my liver's been through worse.

56:29Laura Widney:But no, through educating people about these alternatives, though, we've been around some very high-level thought leaders. and Dr. Michael Beckwith, he's very well known. He actually joined our company as the director of mindfulness. Very cool. And doing some great things. And he has said, and he teaches from Agape on Rodeo Drive and he's got this huge following and all this stuff. He's all over the world. The day after he started using our frequencies in the back of his meditations from Agape, we jumped to 120 countries. Wow. Like the day after, it's crazy. But he says that we're going to look in 10, 15, 20 years and see how archaic it was to take medicine for this, to be cut on for that, to be, you know, it's going to look archaic because of frequency.

57:15Henry Penix:That is cool. How can I use frequency as a mother to support my baby and my stomach and my kids? Yes. So something that I would recommend for you to do, I used frequencies while I was pregnant all the time. I love frequencies.

57:29Laura Widney:Legally, we can't recommend legally. If you're pregnant, if you're under 18, if you're, let me do this. What would you tell me off air as a friend?

57:35Henry Penix:Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we were just talking. Off air. Well, one of my favorite things is to play it throughout the house. So I did that a lot when I was pregnant because it's like I didn't want to just bombard my body all the time with this one and then this one right after, you know, one right after another. Because I was careful, you know, this was my first pregnancy that I had used the frequencies for, but I played them every day. So I'd do it 20 minutes. I'd play it in the house. And so sometimes I'd put on my headphones, but for the most part, I'd play it in a speaker that's like six feet from me or whatever.

58:05Henry Penix:And I was cautious. I was safe, but I was not scared at all of the frequencies because, again, it's just like music, just like playing Beethoven. You know, it is a frequency and it's affecting your body.

58:18Laura Widney:And during her delivery, by the way, we go in and we've got this doctor and she goes, do you mind if some of my students like watch because this is a she was training for something and she thought we were cool parents or whatever and we go no no problem so there's about five or six students looking back there she comes in and she goes okay it looks like it's about time go ahead and lean back she put on her coat she turned she goes okay push she pulled the baby out one push one time it was incredible in about one minute it was two minutes two minutes yeah two minutes and then the nurse she cleans the baby up and she looked at her her students she goes

58:59Henry Penix:that's how you deliver a baby i mean i really do into frequency in the delivery room yes yeah you

59:05Laura Widney:had it planned which one did you have planned i think it was anti-anxiety i was about to say i

59:08Henry Penix:don't know that's probably was for me yeah i mean i thought it was gonna be like have a beautiful delivery and it's like anti-anxiety for him michael's like playing like back support i'm like Are you fucking kidding me? No, I told you, you're going to be delivering to the Trooper by Iron Maiden. You're going to just grit your teeth.

59:28Laura Widney:But being around that atmosphere with good vibrations, good frequencies, you saw our son. He's the one that came in and did the John 3.16, memorized it. And you feel the spirit of that. You feel the vibe. I've always said you're very intuitive. You're very grounded. You're very aware of what's going on with you and in you and around you. So that stuff, you're going to be more susceptible to that than maybe other people. So, you know.

59:56Henry Penix:But I will add this. The cool part about listening to frequencies as a friend off air while you're pregnant is, you know, the frequencies when you play them through your headphones, they're going into the skeletal system. And so it's like the electricity of it all goes through the skeletal system and your cells are hearing it and your cells are oscillating. Well, so is the baby. So everything that's happening inside of your body, baby's getting it too. So the baby gets a little frequency treatment. So if there's anything going on while it's developing, its cells are rapidly expanding, doubling every single second of the nine months.

1:00:31Henry Penix:And so I always just really like meditated on that while I listened to the frequencies while I was pregnant because I'm like, it's so much more. It's not just about me right now. This is about that baby and the fact that it's growing so quickly and so many trillions of little mechanisms are happening inside that baby. That 20 minutes I listen to that one frequency like anti-anxiety or whatever it was. Like, I bet that really helped. Like, I bet that did a lot. Well, the intention, like you said, the intention too.

1:00:59Laura Widney:It's funny.

1:01:00Henry Penix:I haven't talked about this on the show yet, but I meditate every morning. I've talked about that. But I use tuning forks in the meditation and I put the tuning forks over my stomach. Yes, I love that. People are like, you've jumped the shark, Lauren. No, that's so good. No, no, no, that's good. I do the tuning forks over my stomach and I swear to God, I know this sounds crazy. My stomach relaxes, which gives the baby room to move. Of course. and the baby will move and like dance not like it like just moves around because it has space to move because the tuning forks relaxed my womb that's gonna get pulled for something no it's true it's true for many reasons which is another podcast that i would happily get into wellness itself and health self-care has become so polarizing for so many people and i think a lot of it's based personally, I think there's in people's egos to kind of take a very specific stance on something and then not be fluid enough to move off that.

1:01:58Henry Penix:So when I talk to people about some of these things, I'm like, what is the downside of trying and experimenting with this? We're so open to saying like, Hey, get the knife out, get the medicine, do this right away. We're not nearly open enough to things that really like, maybe you tried and you're like, Oh, that wasn't for me. Okay. Move on. Let me try meditation. Michael, I will give Michael a very, I will end it with a compliment to Michael. My husband is very, very open. No, no. It's not that I'm open. I just don't see the logic in not experimenting with things that could potentially have a great effect with very little cost or downside.

1:02:36Henry Penix:You don't look at me like I'm crazy. Largely, what we're talking about here is there are these frequencies that exist that could potentially enhance, change, heal, whatever in your life. And all you have to do is listen. And that is your cost or entry point to be able to potentially avoid some kind of ailment or anxiety or sleep or focus, whatever it may be. And there's a segment of this population that's listening, they know who they are, that are kicking and screaming in their chair saying, I would never do this. This makes any sense. And it's very hard to reach those people. But For the other people, it's like, what is the downside?

1:03:12Laura Widney:Right. Well, with no downside and a lot of times they say, okay, what's the catch? How much does it cost? We've always given your audience 30 days free. Oh, that's nice. And in 30 days. That's what you guys are doing. They're going to know whether it's beneficial. They'll probably know in 30 minutes. But to go on 30 days and put that as part of your everyday life, there literally is no downside. It doesn't cost anything to try a modality that people in 190 countries are saying this works.

1:03:41Henry Penix:So you guys gave everyone their first month free. So you can go to soak. S O A A K dot com slash skinny and use code skinny. And if you guys have sleep or stress or focus or fucking back pain, you can reset your nervous system with this. The reason I wanted to have you guys back on is because that episode did so well. And I think people are genuinely curious about this subject that's very niche. I don't think in 20 years it's going to be very niche. Yes. Hopefully 10, hopefully 5. It's going to be very popular. Yeah, I think it's very popular. And I think that it's very helpful. So where can everyone find you guys on Instagram with any questions?

1:04:21Henry Penix:Pimp yourself out. Yes, you can find us at at Soak App. It's S-O-A-A-K, Soak App. And just so I can make sure it's ingrained in my brain, which one should we listen to tonight for michael the pain support yeah you'll see a difference you

1:04:37Laura Widney:will and listen to the john 316 thing and you you can't be yeah i will report back honestly put the

1:04:44Henry Penix:phone you know closer right by the pain spot on your back on your bed yeah yeah your speaker turn off the wi-fi