How To Create a Non-Toxic Home, Use Clean Swaps & Protect Your Family From Hidden Chemical Exposure Ft. Branch Basics Co-Founder Allison Evans

23:36All you have to do is go to squarespace.com for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch squarespace.com slash skinny to save 10 % off your first purchase of a website or domain. Again, that's squarespace.com slash skinny. it's funny that you say that i just finished hilaria baldwin's book who's married to alec baldwin i have seven kids and she said this thing in the book and i am no breastfeeding experts but i have to ask you this she said the way she kept her supply up for seven babies because she was nursing two at once was she would pump every 30 minutes or feed for three minutes and she said the trick to getting all this milk she had so much milk she said wow was that instead of like pumping every two hours or like waiting she would do it every 30 minutes which is like so much but

24:28Allison Evans:only three minutes okay that is unreal i'm also so impressed because she has all these other babies running around her house and needing her or needing a ride somewhere and she must be glued to that darn pump that is commitment that's amazing it's only three minutes though that's true but i mean cleaning the parts and all that to me that's you clean the parts i mean let's be I mean, I stick them in the fridge for sometimes up to six or seven days and then I'll like boil them. Yeah. I mean, how often are we really like this is like when people say they clean their makeup brush. No, no, that is different.

24:58Allison Evans:But we are talking raw milk here. So we have to handle it a little with a little more care. OK, so but I think she would just like. No, that's amazing. I may actually try that because my listen, my left boob barely produces anything. My babies have all survived off of my off of my right one. So I may, my left one may need this. She says this is the trick to breastfeeding. She said every 30 minutes pump for only three minutes. Okay. And it trains your body to make a ton of milk. See, and I went through the, I'm kind of doing the power pumping thing right now. I actually did it while I was having some water right before the show on my little balcony.

25:32Allison Evans:But I'll do 10, no, sorry, 20 minutes, stop for 10, on for 10, stop for 10, on for 10. But that's only if I'm actually in a place for an hour. like before bed or, you know. It's so much work. I know. It's a lot of work. The pumping. Honestly, with my first two, I didn't pump. So my second one never took a bottle. So I never even thought to pump. Didn't own a pump. Does pumping change your boobs? In terms of what? Like the way that they look or the way they produce? No. No. I don't think so. I mean, well, your nipples look absolutely crazy going through that thing. I mean, it feels very unnatural to me.

26:06Allison Evans:Sometimes I look down and I'm like, this is unreal that this is happening. But maybe instead of pumping every 30 minutes, you could just nurse for three minutes. Can you do that? So to me, that's the thing. It is so much easier to grab my baby and to latch them on me because you don't have to clean a darn thing. The milk is already the temperature they need. You don't have to store it or deal with any of that stuff. You know, I mean, having my baby with me, even traveling, sometimes I'm like, honestly, it's easier to just take the baby than to have to pump and store and fly with this milk. Also, then I'm like, you're taking your breast milk and you're putting it in those plastic holders.

26:43Yeah. Can someone invent something else?

26:45Allison Evans:I know. Actually, okay, I heard that someone had, but not, I don't know about when it actually drops down into the plastic. I only have plastic for those, but then they're immediately, you can transfer to these stainless steel called Ceres, C-E-R-E-S, Sarah Chill. It's like this brand that's come out with this great way to manage breast milk as you're traveling. So anyway, I just got it and I'll have to use it for my next trip because I had a little cry over spilt milk in my stasher bag on my last vacation. I would cry if you spilt milk. It was a lot. It's devastating. It was a lot. What's the brand of diapers and wipes?

27:23The Allison approved. Yeah.

27:24Allison Evans:So kudos diapers, which I don't feel like as many people have heard of. They're sold at Target. They are the only diaper where, you know, the band that goes around the baby's leg that's kind of the ruffle that you have to bring. Once you put the diaper on, the leg has that little like ruffle part that keeps the poop and stuff in. So they're the only brand that makes 100 % cotton ruffle part, which is actually important because it's touching the baby's leg. All day long. All day long. So Coterie is also great too, but I will say Kudos is probably the cleanest disposable diaper. Okay, I use Coterie wipes and diapers, but I just ran into my friend Cora, who's married to Taro, who owns Four Sigmatic.

28:07Yes. And he started a diaper line. Okay. This is so cool, and I might be flubbing this. Okay. The diaper, when the baby pees in it, you throw it away, and then when it goes to, like, the garbage place, what do you call it, where the garbage place is dropped? Yeah, the dump. The dump. It grows into mushrooms.

28:29Allison Evans:Okay, is it hero diaper? Yes, I think so. H-I-R-O? Okay, yeah, I just tried them. You can basically plant the diaper and build a garden. It's amazing. You can build the diaper. But here's what he said, which was crazy. He says the blue line is what's the most toxic thing. Interesting. So he has no blue line. Also, we don't really need a blue line. We don't need a blue line. Do we really need a blue line? I don't know. I've never really understood that. I'm honestly like, can't you smell? And if not, can't you feel? We're that, like, I feel like we just, come on. Come on. You know when your baby needs a diaper change.

28:58If Towns pees twice in the diaper, he pees twice.

29:01Allison Evans:I don't need a blue line. More than that. Yeah, you know what I mean? We're all just hanging on by a thread. A thousand percent. As long as it doesn't leak out, I'm like, you can do whatever you want. Yeah, I don't need a blue line. So I thought that was really genius. Interesting. It grows into mushrooms. And then he harvests them and sells them? No, the mushrooms just grow. It's like biodegradable. That is unreal. I mean, it'd be cool if it grew into magic mushrooms. Oh, wow. Yeah. So that you can be like a more mellow mom as you're changing diapers. Full cycle diapers. So kudos wipes or coterie diapers.

29:33Allison Evans:Oh, wait. No, the wipes conversation is very different. You were talking diapers, right? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Great. Let it rip. You're sitting down. What's wrong with the wipes? Everything. There's honestly, here's the deal with wipes. Wipes are a breeding ground for microbes because you're introducing water, high water content to a highly absorbable surface. and so there will be mold and mildew and all the nasties unless you use a strong preservative. So therefore, every single wipe has to have a certain preservation in the formula and that preservative is too toxic to touch a baby. So I know that so many people listening are like, you've officially lost me.

30:12Allison Evans:This is so extreme. But guys, I have not used a baby wipe. I mean, I don't use baby wipes. I mean, I will use them on the go. What are you using? Okay, so I use dry wipes. And right next to my dry wipes, whether it's in my purse or at home, I have a spray bottle with water and I literally wet the wipe and then... Look at that. It sounds like water wipes. It sounds like water wipes, but it's not. What's so crazy is that those last ingredients, guys, and this is where I'm going to bring out my nerdy toxic brain. But the science of epigenetics shows that a small amount of a toxic chemical can turn on and off genetic expression.

30:50Allison Evans:So if you think about daily use items, those darn wipes are touching our baby in the most absorbable area of their body, right? Highly absorbable multiple times a day. Okay. So when we think about diaper rash, we think about eczema, and then we think about future things. We think about organ accumulation. We think about autoimmune immune. We think about allergies and autism and all these things can be connected to these small little ingredients that are in micro doses that add up over time. So I would say if you're going to do just a handful of things, making sure your mattress is clean and those daily use items like your car seat and your wipes, I think are really key.

31:25Allison Evans:So Honest Company sells 100 % organic disposable dry wipes. I buy them on Amazon. It is the easiest thing. It's one of those things once you get into the habit, you realize you really don't need to have a wet wipe. I mean, yes, you can throw them in your bag like on the run. And I will say Healthy Baby, I think, makes the best wet wipes because they use sodium benzoate which is a preservative we don't love it but it's probably one of the better ones um so kudos diapers and then healthy baby wipes but there's not there really aren't great wipes on the market i went and got my blood tested and it came back higher than anyone he's ever seen for triclosan and i could not figure out i might have checked you it was wipes and you know what's fucked is that ingredient is not on the package you have to dig deep and something that's a very popular white brand white brand that's supposed to be one ingredient it's not one ingredient because sometimes it's such a small amount that it doesn't it's not on there but they're talking about that one white think about how many times a day we're introduced to that one thing and it's by the butthole it's by the it's by the intimate area that it's on your hands i even like like i I was giving my kids the wipes to wipe their face after they ate.

32:40Allison Evans:So I did that at the farmer's market a couple days ago. I felt bad because there was a mom there with me. And my three-year-old obviously had stuff all over her face. And so she was just being a friend. And I wasn't going to be like, oh, no, no, no. But she wiped Eleanor's mouth all over with this wipe. OK, so we get in the car. I wasn't thinking much of it. And I look in the rearview mirror. She's sitting in her car seat behind me. Her entire mouth is bright red. Her body just was not used to being introduced to those things. My kids have pretty resilient skin. Like they're olive. They're not sensitive skin kids.

33:10Allison Evans:I could not believe it. I took pictures because I was like, one day I'm going to have to show my audience that this is what wipes can do. And it was the same wipes you're talking about, by the way, because I know what you're talking about. It's so intense because you don't, like I said, want to be psychotic. Exactly. But at the same time, if it's a daily habit that they're doing all day long. Yeah. It's the daily things. it's i just don't get why there's no brand integrity is that crazy no honestly i will say the wipes the car seat thing is it's whole it's a whole soapbox for me as you can tell in the mattress but with the wipes we have tried to create a wipe right with branch basics and we cannot meet the standard of preservation that is needed to keep the wipe safe more than four or five days without growing mold so i understand why these manufacturers are having to add these ingredients.

33:58Allison Evans:I do get it. That's a bummer. I'd love a Branch Basics wipe. Well, I got you a little gift bag of some stuff. I'm going to try the dry wipes from Honest with this gray ball. I've set you up. I've set you up with the whole system so Michael can't bog. Well, I'm going to get the heated wipe warmer and put the dry wipes in there. Yes. It's so easy to make that. So at home, it's super easy because you just put it next to the baby changing area and you get the OXO, into the OXO brand and you can put a bunch of dry 100 % organic cotton wipes. Let's see, there's another brand that makes them off of Amazon.

34:30Allison Evans:Oh, I'm blank. Whoopsie. W-H-O-O-P-S-I-E-S. Whoopsies and Honest Company make dry wipes. You fill the little OXO, you know, wipe dispenser or whatever heated one you want with a little bit of water at the bottom and they'll last for a while without that toxic preservative. It's just like a water wipe. It's just like it. Uh-huh. Genius. I mean, without triclosin. Yeah. It's honestly wild. Yeah. I only use Branch Basics in my house for cleaning supplies. Sometimes I use Molly's Suds like for certain things. Molly's Suds is great. It feels like it's very clean like Branch Basics, but Branch Basics is like everywhere.

35:10and I'm really proud that we just switched the entire office cleaning supplies to branch basics Carson don't know if you knew that I'm looking out for your well-being um for his future babies why is it so important for a mother to consider the cleaning supplies yeah let this one rip because people there's still pushback about switching cleaning supplies and it's such an easy switch and my house it it's not more dirty it's not more dirty yeah well I'll

35:40Allison Evans:I always love to go with this kind of extreme story. So Kelly, my best friend and co-founder, her husband was on the, he's a doctor and he was on the COVID team. And he is in a home where they don't use one sanitizer or one disinfectant. And never did he come home and say, that's what we should be doing. I mean, he is a doctor and he was exposed in the depths of the COVID situation. Their family never got sick. I mean, that's the thing. My kids are rarely sick. And when they're sick, they're sick for one or two days max. And we have not used bleach. We have not used a chemical-based, pesticide-based disinfectant ever.

36:16Allison Evans:I mean, my kids have never been around one, really, unless they're at school or something. So the reason that this is so important is because our cleaning products contain carcinogens, asthmogens, obesogens, like actually proven to be connected to causing obesity, childhood obesity, because of the way that they're disrupting our hormones, synthetic fragrances. I mean, the allergens alone and the way that they're connected to eczema, the fact that we use them, but yet we don't need them is what boggles my mind. Like we do not need to have these toxic cleaners in order to effectively clean and remove germs.

36:56Allison Evans:And in fact, what's happening when we bring in these disinfectants is we're actually decimating our gut microbiome. So there was a study done on 757 babies between the ages of four and six months. And then they've tracked the babies. It was a long-term study, again, at age one and age three. They found that the babies that were growing up in homes that use disinfectants on a daily basis had the least amount of friendly bacteria in the gut and the highest amount of unfriendly bacteria in their gut, which is directly the same pattern as one with like eczema or obesity branch basics works just as good and it just it works and you don't have to have that fragrance and if you think about guys like the way that our babies are breathing deeply into those sheets and clothes i mean even when someone comes and visits my baby and they have perfume on you know i'm just kind of cringing or i'll really nicely ask if they'll they'll put a burp cloth i'll say oh sometimes the baby spits up if you don't mind putting a burp cloth on because i can smell when they hand the baby back and just the perfumes and all the things coming from their dryer sheets and all the things that they're using on their laundry.

38:03I even think like if you have a nanny or someone who's helping you or even like your mom, if you like sometimes I'll just say, hey, here's Molly Suds. Do you guys mind washing your clothes? Yes. Because if the baby's going to be breathing it in.

38:18Allison Evans:Your baby's caretaker, you should advocate for your baby. They cannot speak up. You know, this is the time like our babies are born pre-polluted. There was a study done by the EWG 20 years ago. So think about how many more toxins we've introduced since then, where babies were born. And we used to think that these chemicals did not pass the blood-brain barrier, right? We thought that the placenta was this protective barrier around the baby, but they were born with 287 chemicals tested in the umbilical cord blood. 180 of them are carcinogens, okay? That's just before they were born. So if we as moms, as parents have information, you know, it's one thing to have the information and to decide, listen, then, you know, I get it, but I'm choosing this.

38:59Allison Evans:But what makes me sad is when we don't have the information and all of a sudden our children are having to pay for that. I did. My mom only wishes that she had an Aunt Merrily to tell her the things that I am talking about now because I had cysts, thousands of cysts covering my ovaries by the time I was a teenager. I had chronic inflammation. I was on hydrocodone and antidepressants and painkillers and muscle relaxers all through college because of crazy inflammation and pain. and when merrily woke me up to this lifestyle when i was 22 years old guess how long it took me to reverse pretty much all of those things i listed 10 months so like our bodies want to heal we are so resilient and our babies if you're listening right now and you're thinking oh my gosh i've screwed up my baby they're already three or they're already eight like i was 22 you know so there's so many things that we can start doing today and once we remove these chemicals our bodies will run in the direction of healing and we will detoxify and overcome symptoms This is why I'm such a Louise Hay fan because in her meditations, she always says, let the past go.

40:04If you've made mistakes like we all have with whatever it is and you're hearing this and you're overwhelmed, let it go. Just let it go. No shame, no guilt.

40:16Allison Evans:It's the last thing I, when y 'all asked me to come on, I thought this is a really sensitive topic, you know, and the last thing I want to do is make a mom feel like they have made the wrong decision for her child. We're all refining. My gravestone is going to say edit and refine. Like I'm editing and refining all the time. You can edit and refine your friend. Can you edit that? Is that going to be your quote? You can edit and refine. It's like no one's perfect. We're all just doing our best, but if it is a daily habit and it's the same price. Exactly. You know what's annoying? The dry cleaner.

40:50Because what do you do? You have a nice shirt. You spend a lot of money on it. Yeah. It's a silk moment. I just got my daughter a silk nightgown. Yeah. What do you do? Is there anything to do? Okay. So I will say there are certain types of silk that actually do really

41:07Allison Evans:well in the laundry. Are you sure you have to dry clean her silk nightgown? It doesn't look the same, Allison. It doesn't? I'm sorry. Okay. I really wish I could say it does. Okay. Well, so there are dry cleaners that... Where? Where? Okay. Well, Houston has an eco clean. So what we do... I feel like that's like look over here. It's like we're green, but like... So you asked him not to do the final spray, but in the end, I would not let my child sleep in something that's been dry clean. I mean, I just wouldn't. I think there's... My children have a few silk items, and we just put them in the wash.

41:38Allison Evans:And you're right, Lunya, L-U-N-Y-A, has that beautiful brand. And they actually tell you to wash them. No final spray, though, if you have to. Yes, no starch or finishes or fragrances. I always say that when I go. And then take them out of the bag immediately. Don't let them suffocate in their own filth, right? And put them in the sun. Because the sun, honestly, is the best detoxifier. So I always have Will's beautiful shirts out on the balcony. See, I knew you would have a tip for that. That's a random one. i want to talk about this is not really to do with baby but it's something that i'm struggling with the hair gel with the guy oh the hair gel we still haven't figured this out for him we got okay we got the volcano i told you that's what will uses the volcanic paste which we'll link in the show notes you guys for towns so towns my son when he does his hair he uses the volcano paste michael is not cutting it for michael so on to this hair gel yeah can we we need i don't know I mean, I feel like my husband has used a few brands and I feel like the Volcano.

42:40Allison Evans:And then there's one more that I felt like I sent you a picture of over text and I'm forgetting what it is right now. But it's in a black container. Is that the Volcano one? I think it's the Volcano one. I don't know. Michael has a lot of hair. We need to formulate just specifically for him. Which is why it's a problem though because it's a whole to-do. It's a whole thing. And then he tries to get in the bed with us. But is it fragrant? I can smell. Right now I can smell. You can smell it in your mind's eye. I'm like a bloodhound. I can smell from a mile away. And he tries to get in the bed on my brand new silk pillowcase that's fresh and lay his head down.

43:16Allison Evans:And then like the kids. Well, he at least needs to shower. If it's fragrant, he needs to get that off before he gets in the bed. That's the rule. But then he's just going to get mad about your spray tan. So you can only go so far. This is the hair gel versus the spray tan. The spray tan is really slim pickings. It really is. There's one. Oh, my gosh. what is the name salt air or salt something that's but it's not like a person that comes to the house it's like you diy and it's just not the same that's your that's your next company as a spray cleaning products and spray tan without getting too granular okay and someone's giving birth in the hospital what's the allison birth plan who i mean back to basics baby okay i'm literally like please do as little as possible.

44:02Allison Evans:I mean, okay, I'm someone who has had all my babies at home. So like I have embraced the fact that our bodies can do this. And I have to tell myself this over and over when I'm facing the pain and there's another baby coming and I'm like, how am I going to do this? I have to hype myself up. So for me personally, if I'm giving birth in a hospital, I want to be able to move constantly. So if they're going to do the constant fetal monitoring, monitoring, which to me is excessive because I don't need to know every single detail of what's happening because I feel like that can sometimes over information can be stressful.

44:36Allison Evans:Right. And I think that early intervention that's unnecessary sometimes comes in because we're so micromanaging every single piece of our birth. And I hope I'm not stepping on toes or making people upset right now. But for me, I'm like, I want as little monitoring as possible. I want to be able to move. I want to be able to get on my hands and feet. I mean, ideally, I've given birth three times with baby coming out underwater. So like I love a good water birth, but at least I would love to be able to labor in the water because it tremendously helps that pain. But how can you do that if you have an epidural?

45:07Allison Evans:You cannot. Okay. So if you're having an epidural, it's a whole different subject. I would say once that baby comes out, give me my baby and we don't need to do anything else. And then let me go home. Okay. So I'll just keep it at that because I'm not going to get into more details, but I'm like very back to basics. The one thing I can say here on air is try to delay the umbilical cord clamp as long as possible. Like how long? Okay. So the hospital will say, oh my gosh, it's fine. All the blood has been transferred. Well, you don't want to wait till it stops pulsating. You want to wait till that cord is white.

45:40Allison Evans:Okay. So in the 1960s, they introduced the early cord clamp because Pitocin was popular, right? And they didn't know how the drugs and the delayed cord clamping would mix. Well, now we do know that you can delay the cord clamp and still have the epidural, still have the pitosis, still have all the things, and you can still delay the cord clamp and everyone is fine. But because the hospitals are just kind of coming into this information, it takes, you know, years for I feel like America to catch up. But when you delay the cord clamp, you can increase the blood supply up to a third. So that's a ton more iron, which is amazing for brain development.

46:14Allison Evans:There's no reason to clamp that cord in under 10 minutes. So sometimes the hospital will say, okay, we'll give you a few minutes. But I'm like, I don't know, give me an hour if you can. Like, I don't need this to rush. Yes, literally, literally. Until it's completely white. Would they rush you along? So as long as possible. If it's five minutes, that's better than immediate. Quick break to talk about Symbiotica, one of our favorite supplement companies, one of our favorite wellness companies. We've had the founders of Symbiotica on this podcast so many times. And here's the thing. Symbiotica brings the best products to market.

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53:01Allison Evans:blankets and the beanies definitely byo b and b bring your own yeah for sure i would definitely bring my own all the things because think about not only the blanket and the polyester and the microplastics in it and that fresh baby skin that's covered in that beautiful vernix that you're not going to wash off but then what are they washing those things in clorox but these are easy wins lauren these are easy wins you have your own little basket with your 100 organic blanket you have their first outfit you have their first beanie i mean it's easy those are easy it's easy with but i will say there is a pushback energy that i cannot explain it's an undertone yeah call it what you want to call it i feel it every time i've given birth of like what do you know girl if there is one person in this world that can command her birth story i'm looking at her right now it's but i feel i feel yeah i you need also you're fucked up from the drugs yeah when you do an epidural yeah yeah i gotta be honest allison i love an epidural yeah i walk in i'm like i'm in pain so in my mind i'm thinking she's missing this part and you're thinking no she's missing out on the epidural you are missing out on the epidural it's really fun but the epidural you're like post epidural i'm not missing out on because i'm not like this like boss bitch after the epidural i'm like but that's why you lay all this out in the beginning and Michael is advocating for you just like he does we'll talk off air Michael is advocating for me he is Michael's amazing amazing and Michael's a guy that when you give him the information and the facts he pivots which is great yes absolutely I've seen or else we would be living in chlorine except the hair gel except the hair gel that's the one thing that he won't give up so um it's just it's hard a little bit to advocate when you're kind of no I I completely understand that.

54:55Allison Evans:I honestly, I'm all about a birth plan. And we with my first, you know, you just never know what's going to happen with your first. And so I was very diligent about making my hospital birth plan. Since then, I've been like, these babies are coming out at home and I just have I'm set on that story. And I've just that's happened in my life. But I was very much ready with my bag by the door when my when I was giving birth to my first thinking, I don't know if we're going to transfer. I don't know what this is going to look like. and I had laid out what she I mean in a sheet like typed out what she was going to be wearing what absolutely yeah send that to me yes I think a lot of people do this I mean what I oh I had it with the first two yeah I'm just saying I had it and there's still an undertone yeah and it's not with everyone it's just with certain situations um the reason that I do not want a home birth because I think because you would think I would want a home birth is because I've realized that I would have to manage Michael.

55:55And interesting. He when he gets like really nervous or stressed. Yeah. He gets into this state and it throws me off like I would need his own doula maybe. Yeah. Like I wouldn't when Towns cut his head open like he got he got stitches in his head yeah i was like trying to focus on towns because towns is crying and screaming but michael's energy was like up here and he wants me to take emotional residency which is like matching his energy but i have to stay calm and stoic for towns yeah so i just feel if i gave birth at home please not listening to this he would be like a maniac Yeah. Yeah. And I it would like ruin this.

56:40Allison Evans:Actually, what you're saying, actually, what you're saying, I mean, I'm serious when I say this. Everyone has to give birth in the place that they feel the safest because that's how they're going to open up and have a baby in the least intervened manner. And I'm serious when I say that. So for me, I don't feel very safe in a hospital. I don't like the hustle, the bustle, the fluorescent lights trying to advocate for things that the hospital may not want. Right. Right. So I get I would probably have what they call failure, failure to progress. And they probably wheel me in and cut me open. Right.

57:09Allison Evans:But at home, I'm like, I own this space. I'm relaxed. But then I talk to so many people who are like, I would be so freaked out at home. I'm like, home is not where you should give birth. You need to go to that hospital where you can relax. You feel safest in the hospital. You will wherever you are going to open up the quickest. That's where you go. I think, too, now that you're saying this, I'm not I don't like my house out of order. yes that gives me anxiety to have people walking in so that was actually my only negative thing and I was cleaning as I was in the first and second stages of labor I was making sure that my bathroom was perfectly clean and that my astringent was picked up and my cotton balls and my like face tape was in the trash like I didn't want because I knew people would all be in there so yeah I get that and all just people in and out of my house and like managing that I would feel a little bit like I have to host but I really think the root of it is I love the epidural.

57:59Allison Evans:Yeah. Those epidurals. They need to find a home-based epidural. Well, it's like after 10 months, you haven't had any vice. And then it's like, give me that fucking epidural right now. Does anyone else feel like that? Okay. I'm sure most of your listeners do. Most of them are relating to you right now and not me. Air filters in the baby's room. I'm doing Jasper. What's your favorite? Austin Air. I mean, find one without a smart meter with low EMFs that is obviously HEPA, HEPA make sure the filters are clean right that's huge make sure it's not right there next to the baby I love using our Austin Air as a sound machine I feel like that's a huge win for that white noise in the background oh can I talk about baby monitors for a second yeah I was just gonna ask you about that hold on everybody we've just gotten rid of our our wet wipes our our car seat turned stroller and now we're taking it away now burn down the nursery use an organic match oh my gosh that's hilarious um so baby monitors okay first of all emfs are a real thing we don't taste them we don't see them we don't smell them we don't touch them and so we want to forget about them but we have to remember baby's brains are highly absorbable they're there's so much more water content and so they actually absorb emfs twice as much as the adult brain so babies are not just little humans like they breathe twice as much air I mean pound for pound they're eating more they're drinking more they're absorbing more absorbing more so studies have found that the term between birth and six months in terms of exposure to emfs is highly correlated to autism spectrum disorders so when you think about that that baby brain is just on overdrive growing like crazy and having a baby monitor, which is super high in radio frequency fields, constantly on your baby as they're sleeping, when their brain is processing and storing all this information, it's just not good.

59:59Allison Evans:And, you know, it's hard to say, OK, well, so what do I do? Do I just listen to my baby to scream? I have somehow gone for babies and never used a baby monitor. I would rather not hear my baby for the first few minutes instead of feeling like I can watch their every single move. I feel very safe that my baby is, you know, sleeping on an organic mattress and not smelling a bunch of toxins. And I feel like monitoring the every move of a child and having to watch them as they sleep can cause a lot of maternal anxiety. And so that is one option is to not have one. There's another option of tech wellness has one that you can actually hardwire.

1:00:36Allison Evans:So you can be constantly watching the baby, but you are, there are cables. Okay. So it's not as, you know, chic. And then the second best or third best option besides not having one, having the hardwired one is Lereve, L-E-R-E-V-E. And there is not one baby monitor that is going to have no EMFs. Okay. They're all going to have some sort of EMS unless they're hardwired. But Lereve has been tested as the only one that claims to be low EMF to actually have a low EMF setting. So I would highly consider that. Also, if anyone is taking care of your baby at any time, whether it's a minute or an hour, my rule is no cell phone by that baby's head.

1:01:19No cell phone by that baby's head. I mean, get the cell phone.

1:01:22Allison Evans:It is a radio satellite right next to that baby's brain. Okay, I have the best hack for that, Lauren, because sometimes you have to have your cell phone while you're nursing. Okay, So we had an electrician come out and he dropped a line in the wall and put a jack next to my bed Okay, because I wanted to be able to nurse and scroll instagram and check dms and do the things that sometimes you need to do as a business owner And I actually hardwire my phone. So my phone actually becomes like a mini laptop Okay, so I cannot make calls But I can scroll the internet I can scroll social because I am actually hardwired with ethernet into a jack next to my bed.

1:01:59Allison Evans:It will take a few hundred dollars for an electrician to come do that to your home. Why can't you just nurse and put your phone way away from you on airplane mode? You can. That's ideal. But sometimes when you're nursing hours and hours a day and you're trying to, you know, answer somebody or you want to scroll Instagram. I mean, my option right here is better than just having your phone by the baby's head, which is what most moms do for hours a day. But I'm with you. Listen, that's the ideal. I have to get a hardwire in my house? well can you text me how to do that i'll send your electrician well you know who i love the test my home guy yeah he always recommends branch basics oh we love him i have notes all over this uh it's it's overwhelming because not because this is overwhelming it's overwhelming to me because there's so many brands that just don't care yeah that's what's overwhelming yeah yeah branch basics does care.

1:02:55And do you guys have a code for us?

1:02:57Allison Evans:We do. Okay. Skinny20. 20 % off all starter kits and laundry powder. So if you do one thing, guys, laundry powder, I'm telling you, just make sure that that baby's clothes, everything that is touching their skin, that's highly absorbable. If there's any sort of rash or eczema or anything, I recently had a mom call me and she said, I've exhausted every single route. I've been to all these doctors. Her baby is covered in eczema. and she was using a less toxic laundry detergent. I'm obviously not going to name names. Switch to Branch Basics and within a week that baby took a picture of the baby on the beach.

1:03:33Allison Evans:It's the sweetest thing. So it does make a huge difference. Okay. And you guys are also available at Target now. We are. Target.com, Amazon, Branch Basics. We are. Yes. Branchbasics.com slash skinny20. You get 20 % off if you use code skinny20. Yes. Yes, and your landing page is branchbasics.com backslash skinny20. And the discount code is already taken. And then we have all of the registry recommendations. And I want to end by saying there are so many brands doing amazing things. So let the takeaway from this not be brand bashing or, oh, my gosh, this is so overwhelming. But this is honestly an opportunity to make changes and to support the companies that are doing better because there are so many great ones.