Jeffree Star: Unfiltered, Uncensored, Speaking His Truth, & Redefining Success on His Own Terms

38:10Well, that's a tourist trap. There's all mansions there and a couple of big ranches, but it's very like hidden hills, mansions everywhere. There's no fun, you know, all the celebrity. I don't get it. So I picked a town that is very not like that. They're all working people, but they actually care. So I, you know, I visited around, I was maybe entertaining Alaska too far away. It's like living in another country. Cause I remember I still had to go to LA all the time, shoot campaigns, be active. And I was like, damn, Alaska is so pretty. I've been there several times. My first time seeing the Northern Lights was there.

38:42So cute. It's cold though, right? Yeah, Wyoming's freezing, but Alaska is another level. Okay, okay. Yeah, Wyoming's north, it gets colder. So I was entertaining a couple of places, but I still wanted to be relatively closer to LA. I was like, ooh, my favorite author is Stephen King. I was like, maybe I want to move to Maine. Let's get really weird. Why has he stayed there forever? And I like Stephen King. he also lost it a little bit during the pandemic yeah I think because I like his book so much I'm gonna glaze over that and not care yeah and he said some he said some dumb shit about he would have masked you up double masked you up he said some dumb shit about Charlie and then was wrong about it and I'm like god you're just such a cool writer why are you even ugh whatever but yeah I'll always be a fan I have red rum tattooed on my stomach hello you know what I mean hi do you know what that's from it's from Psycho is it we're done is it We're leaving Wait what's it from?

39:36No it's Murder Oh no it's The Shining I'm gonna put my eyes out He was so confidently wrong Hey that's my whole life With ignorance and confidence Red rum is from The Shining I own the word now You own the word? Why don't you do like a makeup palette Called Red Rum Different Reds Red rum lipstick, red rum lip liner, red rum gloss You're 20 steps ahead of me okay go back you're in wyoming cast for wyoming um yeah and i'm and i and i see the town and the thing is is like i hired a realtor and she showed me ranches and properties outside of town so i'm like i like the little town it's cute there's 60 000 people so different than nine million folks here right and i loved how sweet everyone was i went to a couple other states and like i don't if people haven't traveled every state has their own personality okay they really do and wyoming Swingites are so giving and sweet.

40:35Like if you were on the side of the road needing a tire changed, three people are going to stop for you. Here, they're going to flip you off because you're in the way. Right. They really care like in their gut and they don't want anything from you. Like, oh, there's a damsel in distress. I'm pulling over. I'm going to help her and then I'm going to go home to my family. That's refreshing. It's really cool. And people cared and it was more like, how are you doing today? Versus here, what do you do? How can I use you? What do y 'all do? You look cute. And you're like, oh my God. is there any real people here this city is a bunch of stepping stone idiots where wyoming was like we how are you how are you today i hadn't been asked how i was in like 10 years almost it was disorienting i was like how what do you mean i was like i don't know how are you like how you did to me so when you so when you move in the town embraced you at first they were a little apprehensive right i think they obviously saw what i looked like and a lot of people you know They don't fully get it or they didn't know what I was about.

41:32And I kept to myself and I invested into the community. And I donated to a lot for charity, not because of any other reason, because I saw a town that I appreciated. So after a couple months of being there, I started meeting a lot of the locals and the mayor and things like that. And I'm like, I really like this town. And to me, Wyoming was going to be like just a getaway. I was still going to live in L.A. and do my thing. And then I really fell in love with the ranch. and then the neighbors sold me all their property. Thanks. And I have no neighbors, really. There's like a couple houses to the left and it's just all land.

42:05I'm at the base of Casper Mountain. Are you aware that the Ghost Hunter TV show just aired a Casper Mountain, which is the mountain in my backyard, a full two-part series about ghosts and shit? Did they find any? Yes. Okay. But on the other side of the mountain, it's a huge mountain and they did on the other side, which is such a trip. I wouldn't see so grounding there and so like earthy. Don't you feel like grounded? Like I'm talking like you really actually literally feel grounded. So when I land and I walk out to my backyard, instant peace. Yeah. Stress, gone, banished. I land here, I want to throw up.

42:44And not just from the pollution. I get what you're saying. I always say that LA and New York are my mistress. I suck it, I fuck it. And then I get the fuck out and go back to Texas. Yeah. So I totally understand what you're saying of like, you just want to like, sort of like, this is like, use LA for what you can use it for. We should have done this in Casper, Wyoming on the ranch. Yeah, I would have come to Wyoming. We would have come. We would have recorded. I have a pink barn with the disco ball and. Okay, I'm proposing this on air. You can ride a camel. I would. Can I come to Casper, ride a camel and do the next show that we do with you whenever it is?

43:18Maybe it's in a year. Maybe it's in two years in the pink barn. Oh, of course. it has wi-fi it's air conditioned it's heated mark you have to make this happen please it's so fun taylor's getting really excited he doesn't know what's gonna we're going you want to colorado he wants to colorado campfire me so so when you got there how what was the the juxtaposition in your life like how how is it different in wyoming from every single level business friendships all the things my best friend of 20 years moved with me cool michael and he runs my store so when i first moved there none of this was in my head i was just like i just want to be in peace and try to you know and i had dealt with a lot of crazy drama and the beauty world was so toxic and i just wanted to get away from it all and 10 years of youtube i was like damn i've hit a ceiling i did two documentaries i've reviewed every makeup brand on the planet i've showed every aspect of my life and a lot of things that people had never seen before, like how to make a makeup product.

44:17When me and Shane Dawson did our conspiracy collab, no one had ever seen really like the beauty world and all. And beauty was so big. Makeup was like, everyone had to have every single thing from every brand and beauty was way more massive than it is currently. Right. So we just showed it all. And when I went to Wyoming, I just wanted to kind of be at peace. And then unfortunately, which is a great thing, my brain can't ever sleep. I make everything a business so i'm like okay and then you know everyone's like well you should get animals and i'm like i'm not doing no horses and fucking alpacas and i was like i don't want many animals months later my neighbors sell me all their land we went from like 70 acres to a thousand so i had like a little small city to myself and i built gates and i barbed wired everything and did fencing and i built my own road i didn't know you can build a street you can is your street name something star creek road cute yeah did you barb wire it to keep people out or barb wire it to keep the animals in both got it got it got it i knew there was a reason a little bit to learn about running a farm what so just like being a musician that created a makeup plan that knows nothing i had to teach myself how to be a ceo and run a full-fledged company i taught myself how to be a rancher so i'm sure a lot of wyoming people early on were rolling their eyes in the back of their head and then being a musician i've toured the whole world i remember being in switzerland and seeing all these big hairy cows on a beautiful green mountain and they're like and i was like what are those and they're like those are yaks and i was like oh how cool and they're really quirky they have really cool personalities they're not like a beef cow that's just like just sitting there they throw their tails up they run around they have cool personalities there's ones that i have trained you can rub them to the ground with these nails hi i was gonna ask you how we're milking a yak with the name.

46:04No milking. You can milk them, but that's not the thing. You just butcher them for meat. Got it. So are you raising the yaks to butcher or are they both? Yeah. So I have a whole entire pasture of pets. There's big, massive bulls that you would think would gore you and kill you. And I can rub them to the ground. What if you fall in love with their personality and you don't want to eat them? I don't bond with the butcher animals. Got it. That's smart. Yeah. They're just there and you drive by and say hi and feed them and they're living a beautiful life, all grass-fed and then the older you get you start caring about certain things yeah i used to be the queen of fast food i'm embarrassed i'll tell you that exclusively i'm so fucking embarrassed of how some of my behaviors used to be because i let fast food be a big part of my life and i'm so influential i was like the queen of taco bell i was going to do a taco bell makeup collaboration didn't do it because why explain to people that don't feel explain to people that don't understand on the butchering process.

47:02Yeah, so that's, oh my gosh. So what I've learned from producing food, there are some folks out there that think meat comes from the grocery store. Or then that's the majority of people. Or at least they know that it comes from the other day. You're smart, so your brain can't process what I just said. I know. Yeah. Your steaks just come from the grocery store. Yeah. Isn't it responsible though? Can you speak on this how it is to actually, like what you're doing is like very responsible. And it's very ethical. So you've seen documentaries. What's the cow one? Cowspiracy. Okay. So my animals are living on, you know, every pasture has almost 100 acres.

47:44They're roaming free. They're in their element. They're grazing. They're playing. They're living their life. A lot of people that are currently at home, maybe even listening to this, you're eating something that was shoved in a steel box, pumped full of hormones, made to grow quicker than it was ever humanly possible from what God created us all in. And it's really, really awful. And I realized that fast food wasn't real. And it wasn't real food. And how could we possibly have enough animals to serve every McDonald's client every day? It's not real meat. It's fake. So do you feel better after you're eating the meat from your land?

48:20Five years Taco Bell free. I feel like an addict. I'm like, hi, I'm Jeffrey. I'm a fast food addict, or I was. When I started eating a lot of grass-fed meat, I noticed my hair grew, my nails grew, my skin was plumper. I look younger. The creatine, the aminos, like people don't realize like it is literally like a multivitamin. If you get the right meat. Yes. And grass fed is the best. Can we buy Jeffree Star meat? Yes. Yes, you can. So all of it is USDA approved. Wait, I was being funny. Are you being serious? We ship to all 50 states. That isn't a surprise if you're running a full batch. So because, yeah, so I bought it.

48:58the quick version is I bought a couple yaks and the thing with me is I become really obsessive in a healthy way of like what am I going to do as my next venture right like TikTok now I'm the queen of TikTok live streaming I started a ranch got a couple animals for fun and people kept going are you gonna murder them and I'm like no I'm good like I'm just they're just a couple pets and then I got more and then I think sometimes when you get investment opportunities oh I have my grandfather passed away. He has 50 yaks. I'll buy them all. This is maybe a personal question. Isn't that what we're here for?

49:33What does 50 yaks cost? Oh! Oh my gosh, stop. It depends. When a rancher needs to move them, you can get some really great deals. Like$900 a head. If you're going to buy any... So I have the best genetics in America. All my yak rancher friends, you know it's true. I bought them from every... So what I did was, because I'm not the average bear, right? I got a couple of yaks. And then I was like, this can be a real business. And I realized the breeding and yaks are a niche market. Unbeknownst to all of the yak ranchers, there's not that many. Maybe like 50 to 100. Maybe I think less than 100 serious yak breeders.

50:11I bought from all of them. And then just like beauty world, there's yak drama. Shut the fuck up. Sounds like you kind of cornered the yak market. Shut the fuck up. There's not fucking yak drama. Oh, there is. All the old farmers and old men hate each other. What do they think of you coming in? New fresh meat energy. Well, they don't care anymore because they bought all their animals. So you bought all the animals. So you sort of like... No. So listen, there's... Who's that guy that you read about? He's like that one guy Rockefeller.

50:42Well, so yeah. So what I did was I bought animals from everyone. And I started crossbreeding and doing things that no other ranch had done. And unfortunately, there was a lot of people that were like, that didn't like each other. So this, this breed, not breed, like this genetics of yak, they're never going to breed with this because these two guys hate each other and no one's going to, it's like, it was a weird thing. Very bizarre. So me, don't, not giving a fuck about any of that. I Googled it all. I researched it. I learned about all the ranches. There's a, there's a yak association, the North American yak.

51:15So all my entire herd is registered with DNA testing through GeneSeq in Nebraska. So they're all pure. And I'm really deep in now. You know, I feel like you need some kind of something like this that's like really sort of like out there. I feel like you need to like get a bee farm or like do something that's interesting like this. Because I like that. I like it's unpredictable. No, she's saying because. I want something unpredictable. because I get like weirdly obsessed with things when I get into things and then I go down the rabbit hole and I will but I you've done it with like certain things I could do something like really weird like a yak like do something like colorful I gotta think it is more than that a bee farm that's cool if you like see I'm allergic to bees and I hate insects so I'm running I'm running away like James Hetfield in Metallica became a beekeeper yeah that's badass But he can't do that.

52:15So go on with... I didn't even know that. Metallica was one of my favorite bands. Yeah, he became a beekeeper and he says it's like really therapeutic and they go and they do... So here's the thing that I've never really acknowledged. I started producing meat. There was an extreme shock at first. People not... Because before, people would be like, are you going to ever kill those things? You know, people just get so weird. And I'm like, no, I didn't have that thought process. And then I met other yak ranchers where I started buying yak and people were like, try my meat. I, you know, here's, here's a yak steak.

52:45I produce yak meat. And I was like, oh, cool. Like there, and then you Google it and you start doing your research. It's 95 % fat free, full of the best nutrients, more than skinless chicken. I mean, there's, it's so fucking healthy for you. And then I dumped fast food and I'm all like, yeah, let's teach everyone to eat better. And everyone was like, fuck you, you're murdering your animals. And I'm like, well, the ones I pet and you guys see on social media, those are all still alive. they have name tags, serial numbers, registered. I want to teach people to eat better and how we've all been tricked and the government doesn't care about us and they want to keep us sick.

53:20Oh baby, they weren't ready for that. Now they are. We've made so much money off yak meat. It's a beautiful thing. And we've taught so many people to eat better and it's been really glorious. What is it like to be so ahead of the curve where people don't get it? Because I have this problem with a lot of stuff i get called a lot of different names woo woo is my favorite but what is it like to be like so ahead that like you almost can't explain it because you can't it's almost like not in the zeitgeist yet yeah it just comes natural for me so that's a hard thing to answer so when you when you feels great when you when you start to feel people coming around to yak meat that's sustainably raised it sounds like exactly yeah grass and alfalfa that's all they're eating nothing else no medicine no weird injections they're just living their life and you ethically with a usda agent you you know you you butcher them and i think people just see documentaries and weird pita videos and they think they're getting their throat slit i mean they're dead in one second that's it it's a quick little like nail and it's it's it's and i do it in a way where the animals are there and they're stress-free so it doesn't like unload them bam it's like they're chill they're like because because the stress stays in the food and let me tell you something and this is going to be woo-woo if the animal has tons of cortisol and it dies the frequency and the energy stays in the meat and then people eat it it does they eat the stress and the fear but if you don't understand that i don't you don't they don't they're not understanding I mean, that's so true.

54:57Very ethical. So I'm not doing anything unethical. It's all by the books. But the shocker was, you have a vegan cosmetics brand. Well, yeah, I'm sorry. You think little bunnies and dogs should be tortured with fucking lipstick and mascara formulas? That's way different than providing food from pasture to plate. So living in Wyoming, I was educated so much and it really changed my life. So I didn't plan any of that, like I said. So then all of a sudden it spiraled from one yak to 500 yaks, you know, 70 acres to a thousand. And then all of a sudden I'm like, I want to open up a store in Wyoming.

55:32The first ever Jeffree Star Cosmetics store is in downtown Casper, 7 ,000 square feet. It's called the Jeffree Star Store Makeup and Meat. That is amazing. And it's really cool. So this is why I like long form content though, because you get the context around why, how you came to this. So you can go shop some makeup and some meat. So this is a perfect example. You guys are passing through town. You may be going to a wedding in Montana and you're like, oh my God, let me check out that Jeffrey guy's store. Well, he doesn't give a fuck about lip gloss. You may want to go shop lip scrubs and a fucking eye cream.

56:09He can go check out this yak steaks. We have taxidermy on the wall. There's samples of our, we have the famous yak jerky. I might pick up one of the moisturizers. They're amazing. We have a Wyoming winter skincare line now that was inspired by living there and my skin becoming drier and creating a whole line for people that are dry as fuck. How do you like your yak? Because I make a bowl of meat every day. It's changed my life. I'm going to switch to yak. But how do you eat your yak? So yak is so lean. You have to cook it on low heat and cook it slow. And it's a little salt and pepper. or no? Yeah.

56:47Or seasoning. It's whoever you want it. Now, anyone that's listening at home and you're not visually looking at us right now, the number one question is, is it gamey? No, it's the opposite. It's sweeter than beef. It's not like elk. It's not like venison. It's not like bison. It is a sweeter, healthier beef and it tastes so yummy. And explain for people who don't know all of the benefits that come with it besides like the amino acids and the creatine, And what are the things that you notice? I feel like your digestive system is way better. I don't know how these people eat crap all day. It's fake food.

57:22And then your body starts getting used to it. And it's just your skin. Everything just to me is just, you can tell when someone's not eating right. Also, I think a lot of people right now from what I'm learning from this show are on GLP-1s. I can't breathe. We'll get into that. Oh boy. A lot of people are on GLP-1s. And I think if you're going to be on a GLP one, you better be eating your yak and your protein. They're not. They don't care. It's the girls that get lipo and they're back to eating McDonald's. Really? You don't think anyone's on a GLP one wanting a bowl of yak? 5%. Okay. All right.

57:54Let me ask you this switching gears a little bit because I, well, I do love the yak meat discussion. I got to keep it moving. Everyone's talking about dick. That's easy. We'll get to that. Yak on that dick. He's already learning. you have no idea he's probably watching porn of it as we speak for I imagine you have to put in your age so you probably isn't it's shut down it's getting banned in other countries and other states I mean Arizona you can't log in anymore same with Texas I have friends who are in that industry and I've been offered to be in that industry and I don't know if I'm gonna do it yet I better I better decide soon before I get too old and I'm unfuckable so I better be soon maybe you do like a one and done like a like a a starlet like a movie theater premiere opening.

58:41A Bonnie Blue gang fuck, yeah. All coming out and what's it called? A lot of women are very upset about Bonnie Blue and how she let a thousand guys fuck her and I'm like, I'm just jealous. I think everyone's upset about something. I was like, why did I think of that? Oh my god, I saw the trailer on her Twitter and it was... Taylor was in line. Where's your mic?

59:06But yeah, Go ahead, Michael. What were you going to enter that? You want to stop yakking? Let me get back on. Listen, we went down a rabbit hole now. For somebody who's so outspoken. Oh, boy, where is it going? How do you feel? Well, I think I know how you feel about cancel culture and people feeling afraid to kind of speak their minds who have built audiences and are scared to lose their businesses or their brands for sharing their true opinions. Because I think you've obviously built such a massive thing, but you've also always been yourself without feeling like tied to one camp or the other i think yeah well i think cancel culture has evolved and changed and i think the internet is still when you really think about it it's kind of new right like i was 10th grade ms you know msn dial-up 56k modem there's people don't even know that we're talking about right now we're like speaking a different language the sound so i think the internet evolved really quickly and for some reason around 2013 everyone became a pussy and people were it was a very bizarre shift like all my crazy wild jokes were now and i'm like okay got it and people got really really weird and i think now we're at a place where people should be held accountable for really awful things right i think cancel culture is kind of over but like we talked about you're gonna glorify and make fun of someone that was murdered on like now you're getting the repercussions so the people that are losing their jobs.

1:00:31Trump is taking away visas. If you're tweeting, I'm glad he died. Good. Now you're being held responsible versus, oh, you made a joke when you were 12. We're going to hate you forever. I think people are allowed to grow and change. I think they are. And if you still think someone's a piece of shit or they're still acting like that, then hold them accountable. Right. But I think for a while, no one wanted anyone to grow. It was like, we hate you. Go away. I never took that as an answer and i never did anything illegal and i never did anything that i should be in jail and put away right i said some really fucked up stuff when i was younger and i'm 40 now and i own it and i'll always you know be apologetic and and be embarrassed by those times but i think i'm the face of like just do you you're allowed to rebuild you're allowed to evolve as a human and i'm gracious enough to or i'm grateful that the internet and my audience allowed me to grow versus snuffing me out you know i think like what bothered me about in doing this show is you'd meet a lot of people that had platforms yeah and what they would say publicly versus privately were two different things and that stuff drives me nuts because i'm like the only reason you're not saying it publicly is because you're scared of the monetary repercussions and it's inauthentic when charlie kirk got assassinated i just organically like i always do said how i felt and I had no idea it was going to be received so great and also so awful.

1:01:52It was such a weird dichotomy of like... Awful in the way that people from you... Yeah, well, some people, because at the end of the day, the people that unfollowed me... Oh, in that way. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, they saw a 20-second clip. So I got a lot of, Charlie Kirk would have hated you. I'm like, because he didn't agree with certain things? That's not who he was. So a lot of people were like, I'm unfollowing you because you posted rest in peace. That shows a lot about them. That's really, really sad. So I, I lost 120 ,000 followers, gained half a million more. And that wasn't ever my plan. I organically found out about it and it was just like really, really shook and disgusted by the whole scenario.

1:02:32So yeah, a lot of people they saw, I think like, you know, a little tiny clip of him on Tik TOK or Instagram and they just thought he was something he completely wasn't, you know, very misunderstood. I get shit for this, but that statue just shared about losing a hundred and gaining 500. I've been saying for years, was like, for some reason we gave the loudest, angriest, most miserable people, the biggest mouthpiece. Right? And like, I was, I, you know, I look at metrics, right? Running this business all the time. And I'm like, the analytics are not telling the story that the comments are. Yes.

1:02:59Right? It's like, I think most people, and this is, you could just see this by going out into the normal world. You go out to dinner and most people aren't like screaming and yelling in people's faces and tearing them down. There's like normal people trying to do normal things. Exactly. Take care of their families, live happily. But for some reason, yeah, the internet has become this microcosm where like for whatever reason, maybe it's algorithms, those voices get a lot more shine or share. Yes. I think we need to move away from that. I guess what I'm saying is more positive people can chime in and say, Hey, like that's not okay.

1:03:28You know what I mean? And we can also all have different opinions about things. I also recently spoke up about gender and things like that. And it's like really greatly received, but then a lot of people were like shook. And I'm like, I didn't say anything that wasn't a scientific fact. What did you say if someone's listening and they don't know? I think, and I come from an old school era, so it's kind of a tricky thing. Nowadays, we have grown men with beards, wearing dresses, going into the women's restroom. When I was younger, any normal person that felt like they were born in the wrong body was trying to be passable.

1:04:06And they were really wanting to live their life as a woman. And if you really think psychologically you were born in the wrong body, unfortunately it's kind of it's like a mental illness but people hear illness and they just have a full spiral so this new age of weirdos and predators trying to pretend they're trans or pretend they're this and and harm women and children that's my issue so there is this piece of shit named lily tino who is pretending to be trans and recently went into the women's restroom at Disneyland. Disneyland's for children. Yes, there's adults that like Disney. We know that.

1:04:44And the camera's rolling. I'm sorry. There's a seven-year-old that just walked behind you. Why the fuck are you in a little training bra and lipstick, clearly with a man's voice, in the women's restroom filming? Rage bait, attention. These things did not exist 10 years ago. So people love to misconstrue what I said. And that's really what I meant. And I think that we should be protecting women and children at all costs these days with so many weirdos out there on the internet listen there might be some people that don't have any ill will or any harm but like i just like why create the environment where there is the possibility of like so say a hundred people would never anything wrong but there's the one that will that's why create the environment where that one that will has that has an easier time yes to do that right like that's like that's really the thing that a lot of parents are nervous about.

1:05:35Most people you meet, again, they don't have ill intention. They're just trying to live their life in the way that they... To me, this is a normal question, but it might be received as a racy to some. Netflix recently is being canceled by Elon. Do you want your five-year-old watching a show that is going to confuse her about gender? I don't want my five-year-old having to think about that calculus at five. Thank you! I just want my five-year-old to play outside and be pure. Should a five-year-old worry about gender? Why are we putting in cartoons trans flags and all this stuff? That's my personal opinion.

1:06:13I don't agree with it. I think it's too young. I don't agree with eight-year-olds wearing makeup either. I'm one of the biggest indie beauty brands on the planet and I don't think little girls should be glorified to look older. That's disgusting. What the fuck is going on? It's not for me as a parent. but I mean listen we have young if people want to do that you do it but like for me it's not for me I don't feel weird dancing on that I mean we don't we have young children and any parent that has young children if you just watch them in normal like they're they just want to be kids Rugrats never did this Rugrats get some of that all these shows we used to watch growing up it was never like that maybe there was adult jokes that we didn't fully understand but it was it was never sexualized and weird and like why does the 5 year old watching a Netflix cartoon show need to know about that right now?

1:07:01And then let's just really take it there. Let's take it there. Why are we encouraging our kids to be a different gender and feed them false information when they're so young? So this is what I said recently that people really understood. When I grew up and I started looking different, right? My mother encouraged me to just be myself. When I started wearing makeup and being more feminine and wanting to do certain things, it wasn't, oh my God, Jeffrey needs, what do they call it now gender affirming care i'm gonna i'm done i'm done i just she let me be myself she didn't push me to be anything just like when you're a tomboy did your mom try to you know get you a surgery to be a you know what i mean exactly she she did she cut your tits off because at 13 that's not no so nowadays it's all these fucking weirdos telling their kids oh my god you like you like a barbie you're you're a woman no that's just a little boy experimenting not knowing what the fuck he's doing.

1:07:58So why do you think that there's people out there trying to do that to their kids? I don't know. And I feel uneducated in that aspect because I am not a parent, right? And I don't fully grasp why. Why can't kids just be themselves and then figure it out when they're a little older to really make real decisions? Why are we, you know, at 12, my daughter thinks she's a boy we're doing surgery we're doing steroids we're doing testosterone we're i just think and their bodies are so not even developed yet you're fucking with all the chemicals and it's just i just think we're gone down a bad path and kids should allow just to be themselves and express themselves and then figure it out later you know so you're a tomboy so you you want to be a man yeah you're just not girly extreme we come from this similar generation like when i was growing up and if you go through a bout of feeling down or you feel a little depressed, you feel a little angry, like, basically my parents were like, okay, you got to work through that and feel that emotion and it will help you get to the other side.

1:09:04Yep. What are you looking at over there, Haas? What are you doing over there? I was searching with the Instagram influence that you were talking about. You weren't looking at my ass pictures on Instagram? I got some good ones too, huh? But anyway, back to the kind of like the, there was a lot less coddling, I feel like. It was like, hey, you're sad, you're upset, you're angry. We're going to work through it. We'll help you work through it. But that's an emotion that people feel in life. Unfortunately, you got to get through it. Now it's like, hey, you feel that way. Let's alter your entire reality and coddle to you and make sure that you never feel any kind of pain or discomfort.

1:09:41We can't do that. It's bizarre. Let people experience life. Let them fall off the bike and get back up. That's the short version. What's the biggest misconception about you? That I'm not a man. I'm just kidding. Wait, is that really a misconception? No, it's really not. I mean, random people will try it, but no. What's something that random people on the internet don't get about you? It's not translating and it's frustrating for you. What do you think? Let me think about this for a second. I know we're recording, but... No, we can edit it. But someone that's known me for over 10 years, what is the misconception?

1:10:14Yeah, what's something that people... That I'm just some dumb faggot? i can say it y 'all can't i don't ever post i don't need validation from my audience that knows that i love to take care of people you know life has blessed me beyond immense so i love everyone to have the best time we're on this planet in such a short amount of time let's all eat the best food be in the best hotels have the best experiences laugh and enjoy you know go to trips and like okay the business is over let's run a yacht for five hours let's go have a fucking cool meal let's go sightsee. Let's go have fun and enjoy all of this before it's gone.

1:10:49I know that you're big and quiet about giving back. How do you give back and what would surprise people about that? Charity? What do you do like for community? Oh, in Wyoming, I've donated millions and I've never really said anything about it because I don't want the, I don't know. I know what I'm here. Everyone thinks I'm an attention seeker. It's just, I don't need the validation of like, look, you guys, I'm a good person. I know I'm a good person. Whether someone agrees with me or not is totally okay. But I moved somewhere where I really wanted to invest in the community, whether it's the Wyoming Food Bank or stuff like that.

1:11:25I wanted to give back to the community and let them know I'm serious. And I really believed in my town. I believe in Wyoming. I really love the state. I think Wyoming as itself is very misunderstood. I was just FaceTiming with someone that I'm sleeping with and they called Wyoming the serial killer state because it's the least populated. And I'm like, huh, like what a random thing. But you know, you see, I know. But then, you know, there's just movies like, oh God, what is the, what is the movie in Wyoming they're making a part two? Wind River. So people just, they don't, they just see it as like really desolate and random murders and things happening, but it's really.

1:12:00That's a great movie. It's such a good movie. I haven't seen it. Yeah, on a reservation. It's really dark. Yeah, it's on Netflix. It's like number one on Netflix right now. I don't know. I have a big heart. I think they think I'm very superficial. Hi. But I like style. I like... I don't feel that from you. I feel like you're very multifaceted like an onion and you're going to get all different kinds of layers. I don't... Absolutely. I have to tell you, I don't feel like that at all. The holidays are here. Everyone's going to be cooking at home, hopefully with family and friends. But are we making sure that we're not cooking on toxic chemical cooking supplies.

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1:18:31You like that? Yeah. Like, like literally sexy red, the fucking rapper. I'm obsessed with her. She followed me on Instagram two days ago and we're going to do a little tick tock this weekend. And I'm like, Oh my God, I love her music. I'm obsessed with her. She couldn't believe I know who she was. And I couldn't believe she knew who the fuck I was. It was really cute. Let me, you're talking about the horse cocks. I'm talking about like, I know you want all the rappers that are all in the DL. Are there a lot of people that I'll ask it in a different way. There are a lot of people that would shock the audience that are sliding into your DMS.

1:18:58I don't think anymore because I've talked about it for a couple of years now. But you don't kiss and tell. No. Like NFL. I was at the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. How the fuck do you think I got there? You know what I mean? Like, hello. So I love athletes are fun and hung. The best one is the basketball, baseball or football. Oh, gosh. Basketball. Basketball. Yeah. That's tall. Like a 6 '8 situation. yeah you would never go for like a five five five five am i gonna do floss what the fuck am i gonna do with that oh no oh no no no no no i'm not it's not a turn on i'm not kidding below if you're hung maybe 511 if you don't invite me to your pink barn to keep interviewing you i'm gonna be really offended 511 is like the worst case scenario oh michael you just me just just shine he's 5 11 with a boot but i love masculinity here's a problem with society we've set up society to shame and ridicule straight men and i hate the term straight you're allowed to mainly here's my take on it let's take away the word straight five percent of the population that are men like women only five percent wow 95 of men will fuck anybody wait how do you pull where's the stat from wait like where's the his own his own yeah i know i'm not debate i'm not gonna say you're wrong but i want to just know let me just tell you this we have a study or something i am the study i am the harvard study okay did you hear that as a very feminine man who has never pretended to be anything but what i was born i do look a certain way which i'd also upset people when i was talking about charlie and trans and all this like i've never i'm a dude i'm a guy do i look very feminine yes i love hair and nails and makeup i don't know it's just built in me to like fashion you can imagine what where that's the calculus of a lot of this gets confusing yes so society has let everyone know that men have to be macho and men so if they have sex with a male or anyone that's feminine that has a penis they're now demasculated in their freak show it's very bizarre so unfortunately it's very the DL term is very real.

1:21:17A lot of guys want to hook up on the DL because the world will judge them. There's been dudes that have been in love with me that have cried and like literally wanted to kill themselves because they're in love with me, but their parents will disown them. And that means more than me. I have had grown men literally like it's really sad. Is that interesting and sad and weird to see the process of someone who falls in love with you and then they have to come to terms with the fact that they can never let anyone know because there's too much shame it's so awful it's really heartbreaking to watch someone go through that honestly what does that do so well i'm the case study so what i was getting what i was getting at is that from whether i was broke or not money has nothing to do with it right i've traveled the world i've been to countries where they'll stone you for being gay threesome hey and no one cares i was in africa doing threesomes they'll kill you there no one cared hold on hold on wait was that such a big statement no I was in Senegal Africa with the singer Akon who was my manager we never slept together he Akon I love you brother he's in the 5 % he loves pussy he's in the 5 % 5 % oh yeah anyone else we can call out in the 5 % Taylor are you in the 5 % oh please

1:22:36you are? No, you can't think so You said it's sure Now you're saying you think But have you ever been curious to experiment? Okay What does that mean? I can't If none of these cameras were rolling Are you sexually attracted to me? Maybe I don't take it the wrong way Trust me, you can see my phone Every artist you listen to on the radio Has been in my mouth But what I'm getting at is And I will like to say this I'm very into health I've never had an STD I'm very into health So if a random dude on Instagram wants to fuck Go get tested or I'll pay for it So you won't do anything until you see test results Yes Can I go back to the threesome in Africa That statement Akon played in front of half a million people in Senegal And he took me to Africa with his entire team And they're like And they're like you know don't don't do anything with guys in public it's illegal and I'm like what do you mean whatever and I'm like 50 inch pink hair full tattoos no one judged me everyone was really really cool and in the hotel I did have a lot of fun with people yeah can you manage more than three yes like how many is manageable five five but after five it's like you're done then you better be joining with some other girl yeah yeah do girls not you specifically do girls stand a chance what do you mean by that with you yeah I like everything ah yeah so that's another misconception I am not gay I am just open and very me I love that though it's like just I don't like the term I mean there's obviously a lot of gay people out there that only like a certain thing that's great LGB is it Q &T get off the alphabet sweetie you should be in your own category okay let me break it down for you straights lesbian gay and bi is that not a sexuality that's a sexuality yes right what you think your identity is has nothing to do with what you're sexually attracted to so why is T and Q on LGB what I fuck that means LGB gay lesbian and bi that is your preference of who you are attracted to and what you like your identity issues and who you think you are is so separate i don't agree that they should be together that's interesting i think it should be its own thing is everyone straight here do you think do you think all of that being lumped in together causes a disservice to to all of the messages because we because those yes and i and i vocalize this after i went on pierce morgan and twitter got it they were like yes and so many straight people were like thank you for fucking saying this i was afraid of being counseled for ever saying that why is that a it's an opinion well michael it's not a negative i'm gonna i want you to give your take on this because you have something interesting i don't know well i don't know if i have something interesting i just think it's really confusing to people to change the goalposts and the rules every six months or a year and you're and all y 'all are expecting all the terms listen i was terrible in school i need a fucking study book to figure all this stuff out all the time i was even when we were doing the prep i'm like what do you like what do you even say and do because you don't want to offend somebody you want to be nice to people i think everybody wants to be respectful everyone wants to get it right so the statistics from the government not my own brain is that during the pandemic a lot of this behavior started a lot of identity crises is people not knowing who the fuck they are being influenced by tv tiktok who knows what and now the spike is really different and people are coming back to earth is it because everyone was locked indoors well i think it took the i think it took a few people maybe yourself included standing up and just being like listen this is getting to be absurd yeah it's unfair to take the majority of the population and obligate them to fully change how humans have thought for thousands again it started when the first person and we as a society let them i'm they okay and what the fuck does that mean you don't you don't five years ago we would not be able to have this discussion that everyone would have a meltdown but why you're a they and a them okay got it so what you're saying is there needs to be more context around it the absurdity is that are you saying you can only be a man a woman or trans the absurdity is that dopes like us would sit there and be like uh-huh yes i I understand.

1:27:20I have no fucking idea. I was sitting there just nodding my head. That part. And then all of you in this room are expected to know every label of something. I'm a bird now. No, you're a fucking female. Shut up. So when you say this, what's the pushback that you get? It was like, I don't know. It was just very bizarre. But most people got it. And they were happy that someone who is a male that just does whatever the fuck they want and does look feminine is saying it. A lot of the straight community were very afraid to tiptoe around that. Yeah, I mean, no one knows what to say. Yes. You know what I'm reminding of?

1:27:54You know that game Operation? Mm-hmm. Where you, like, try to pull the little bones? Yeah. I felt like, okay, you're, like, going in, and if you say, like, you get, like, bzzz, and that's falling. Yeah. Yeah, it's a cancel. Literally. Get out, shut the show down. Like, you know, we don't know. I don't know. They tried to complicate everything and expect the world to agree and play into the fuckery. um i want to know what you're like at home on your day off with the yak boring as fuck so yeah are you like no makeup like cash like what are you like my issue is i work a lot so you know we quit youtube we stream and we use tiktok as a very big vessel now i am one of the biggest streamers on tiktok in america i have one of the biggest if not one of the biggest teams of the whole app what does that mean when you say you're i don't like you so you have a team running your your no no my team meaning my audience my customers yeah so what is it the star fam baby is it just going live what do you mean by stream is that what that means yes so you so you click the live button okay and tiktok has evolved very quickly they're geniuses so you can go live and do anything you can so a lot of streamers unfortunately they do one thing they sit behind a backdrop and they hang out and there's something called battling where you can battle another creator and your audience throws gifts that are equal money and whoever has the most points, which is money, you win.

1:29:17Whether you win or lose, you still get the money. But it's like battling is this really big TikTok thing. Got it. I go, I do that sometimes and it's fun. Let's say I'm bored in Wyoming and there's a snowstorm. Clicking that button, I could banter and see, that's the thing is I'm good at like turning up the character. Like you're meeting me. You're meeting me. We noticed. right you're meeting me and this is who i am all all day but when you're bantering and someone comes on the screen the comedic jeffrey comes out and i'm fucking vicious and they love it but you aren't to me you're not mean no no but i can't be to like idiots okay like not no you know what i mean like but i feel like there's a warmth about you yes like i think that you should do do Do you have a podcast?

1:30:02No, I've been I've been offered one. We've talked about it. I think it's hard to balance at all. Yacking with Jeffrey. I want to be the new I want to be the new love line. Yes. Like, you know what? I think that I want to take calls and give advice right now. You want to do anal better? Click. Let me go. Let's talk about it. How do you do anal if someone's listening and wants to do it better? Oh, God. Right now. Yeah.

1:30:29Are you married? No. exactly um so what i get from girls is he just tried to put it in motherfucker you have to ease it in eat the ass you said what are you talking about you just had to suck it in yeah you can't just stick it in what what dude thinks that's normal that's like you're not it's so weird yeah it is weird it's so weird he just tried to shove it in i i'm a lot of my girlfriends say that and i'm like what are you kidding me send him over to my house for a night i'll give him a class you know but when i'm having a day off and i don't live stream i like to be grounded which may sound very strange in this last hour to sit in the middle of an open pasture feet on the ground no shoes we're not supposed to really be wearing shoes our feet are not supposed to be crammed in we're not supposed to be wearing rubber they've killed all spirituality on this whole planet hi i want to go there please feet on the ground agreed hi that was the real term.

1:31:25Feed on the ground, grounding, earthy. The government has done everything to unground us. They've poisoned the water, poisoned all the food, made everyone dumb. What? Why aren't we? I'm sun gazing at the crack of dawn. Sorry that y 'all aren't. This new administration said they're going to get rid of daylight savings. I hope. It's ridiculous. In Wyoming, it's all of a sudden dark at 4 p.m. next month. Can't wait. They want you depressed, indoors, dark, blackout. No. So you like to ground and there's a spiritual side of you that people are missing when you're online. Yeah. I find that interesting and it makes so much sense because I think you have to be such a high performer and so on and everything is so optimized and you're so intense.

1:32:07It doesn't surprise me that the other side of that is a completely different situation. Yeah. Just to be in a pasture and hang out and just sit there and let the wind blow and the sun on my face and just hang out with my animals and just put out a blanket and the yaks and count you know they just sit next to me and we just all hang out and reading a book people don't read anymore it's so sad everyone on their kindles who actually i like to read a real fucking book with pages that i can turn what's your favorite books that you've read what's what's jeffrey approved i'm really unfortunately into the really fucked up memoirs like all like people that have survived like the craziest drug addictions like what's that one a million pieces i love that book yeah whether that was maybe came out that a little bit whether it was false it's a book right but like I love people that overcome triumph and addiction and eating disorders and you know all that type of stuff I found it very fascinating when I was younger because my family could never really escape the addiction and I was just like I always wanted to fix everybody but I was so young and didn't understand it at the time you know so it's it's almost like therapeutic to probably read it yeah but I also love fiction like I really do love Stephen King I love horror I love that type of stuff I like reading you know things that have really like depth to it.

1:33:17Would you ever be monogamous and be... What's that mean? Like just one person. Like would you ever be... Just one, just one, be with just one person. Just one for the rest of your life. That's an option? I don't know. I don't, I actually have no sort of like take on that. I'm just saying for you... Here's my answer. I haven't met the person to make me feel like that. Okay. I've been in love once. Okay. Was monogamous. had a beautiful relationship, but currently with this state. So when I was in my five-year, I almost call it like a marriage. When we broke up, which was about, oh my gosh, like six years now, right?

1:33:56I've still never been on a dating app. I've never downloaded an app, whether it's straight or gay. I know what Grindr is. I know what Bumble is. I know what all these things are. You can literally look on my phone. I have never been on those apps. You have DMs. But celebrity, people still go on dating apps. They like to see what's on there. I've never been on one. so when my serious relationship where i was in love ended the dating world was so different and now it's oh girl it's dark why is it dark i think that 99 of people cheat and they have this now so the old days couples would fight and have conversations or like move on like now it's like oh i'm gonna open up a i'm gonna go get my fix and here's 10 women that want to fuck me while my wife's mad at me i'm gonna whether it's sending a picture or sending a text all of it's cheating you don't have to have sexual intercourse to cheat you're sending a dick picture you're cheating agreed you're entertaining someone else's feelings you're cheating and also like work on the dick picture too if you're gonna send a dick picture oh I got great ones from guys I only get the best I've never got I don't get bad ones what's the trick to a great dick pic I don't know I mean why do you need to know I'm just wondering she's a female she can be curious yeah I would like you to like I could get a dick pic it worked for me like put some good light on it I feel like you gotta get the angle right oh see but if you're married and she already knows how big it is you don't need the angle but i mean like when you're taking a picture like you don't want to there's a lot of wrong well i don't want to see it all limp in the shower i don't sometimes i don't mind a limp moment if it's like a cute candid but i like hey there's so many social clips from this podcast i don't even know what to say you know what it's just like i've taken a lot of risque pictures that no one's ever seen oh like huge cocks in my mouth and private jets and the pilot takes the picture like all that type of stuff yeah who's flying the plane well there's two there's two yeah hold on bill if i get your permission later i'll show her a couple okay i would love to see one you have my permission i'm a connoisseur i am i'm a dick connoisseur oh my god same yeah so you know five percent of the world straight i've learned a lot on this before you go what's something that you want the audience to know it could be about your business about you about your tiktok give us something that you just want everyone to know I want people, and this isn't even about me right now, I want people to be more kind to themselves.

1:36:16From being online for so long, there's so many people who don't like themselves or really insecure. A lot of my number one question is, how do you get confidence? And I don't know how to answer that. I just woke up one day and didn't give a fuck in high school. My brain, like I said, just clicked and I never looked back. So I wish people would be less harsh on themselves. I wish they would not care what a stranger thought about them. I don't know how we got to a point in society where a stranger saying you're ugly validates anything. It's just a very bizarre world we live in. That's a good one.

1:36:49That's a very good one. This episode had a lot of range. In fact, I'm going to vote that this episode had maybe the most range ever. I love that. We did like, it is going to be a challenge titling this one and coming up with the description of the episode. But I feel like it went everywhere. It was, It was warm. Maybe I'll call it Colorado Campfire with Jeffree Star. No one knows what that means except my audience. I'll give you it. Everyone already follows you, but where can everyone find you? Shop your products. Can we do a giveaway? Can we do a code? We didn't even ask, but is that okay? Yeah, I would love to do a code.

1:37:25It would be my honor. JeffreeStarCosmetics.com is the main driver. TikTok shop is always open on my page. Can we buy the meat too? Yes, you can. It's on the shop. So on TikTok, you can buy the jerky and the snack sticks if you want frozen meat. And when you guys are settled in Texas, let someone know and I'll send you guys a big dry ice package of steaks and brats and burger. That's very nice. And I'll give you guys a couple of things to make. You can make anything with yak. I mean, the burger is so great. You can do meatballs. You can do obviously hamburgers. What does it taste like compared to like beefsteak?

1:38:02He told you it's not gamey. It's more sweeter. It's more sweeter, really healthy. not gamey at all. And I haven't even mentioned this yet. I'm in seven restaurants in Wyoming. Wow. Isn't that cool? So you can get the famous Jeffree Star Yak Burger at the Branding Iron. Anyone passing through Wyoming, you can get, there's a place called Tacos Mexico from San Diego. They moved to Wyoming 25 years ago with all their famous recipes. You can do the yak berria. You can do the tacos. You can do the quesadilla with the yak meat. So there's a lot of cool places in town. So when I do events and meet and greets in Casper, people from all over comment, it's really beautiful for the economy.

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