Paige Lorenze On Reinventing Yourself, Trusting Your Gut, & What She Doesn't Share Online

26:52Say and do what you want to say and do. It's not good for people to get on autopilot and stop actually saying what they actually want to say and what they actually believe. Yeah. I think that that is actually, I think, a mistake that I made a little bit in the beginning of my career where I wanted to just be agreeable. And this was more when I think I lived in New York and even actually in the beginning of Dairy Boy, because I was so passionate about my businesses that I don't, you know, you never want to say the wrong thing and you don't want to like offend anyone. But I think, I think actually some of my favorite people that I look up to the most are just who they are.

27:25And I might disagree with like some of the things that they believe in, but they just stand 10 tones down on who they are. And those are the people that I find interesting those are the people that i think we need more of well it's okay to disagree by the way too yeah like even my my ceo who's completely like changed my business as one of my closest friends we disagree all the time in like the best way like we have to encourage disagreement because that is where like the best ideas come from and that like contrast and those conversations when we disagree about an idea the the final result is like incredible um and at Dairy Boy, like that is what I mean, Dairy Boy is now I started as like, you know, just me and my assistant in my house in Connecticut.

28:07But now it's we've like it's a big, bigger. We have a bigger team now. And I have like a real business partner and a CEO. And, you know, we just we're constantly challenging people in our office to disagree and to, you know, not it's not fighting, but it's just have those disagreements because we're not really I feel like allowed to have those anymore in discourse about many things, whether it be oat milk or whether it be about how to raise your kids or, you know, everyone has such a strong opinion. And I think it's actually really healthy and good. And I hope that it kind of swings around. I think it takes people having these conversations for it to swing.

28:40Something that you and Michael and I have in common is that we both have businesses that have a lot of our childhood friends in them. Yes. And when I was researching you. I was like, oh my God, I've never met someone who's a founder that has all these childhood friends. Like Taylor right there sitting on the ground. He's been harassing me since I was 12. I love that. I'm the same way. I have my best friends are my childhood friends and my mom works for Dairy Boy. My brother works on my design team. My best friend was my assistant and is now like running a whole college program for us. And then her mom is like runs like accounting and a lot like it's a very so cool friends and family and on my ceo i've known him for like 10 years but that's another thing that they say they who the fuck is they yeah they say don't work with friends don't work with family i don't agree with that i think there's nuances and there's there's different situations which friends and which family yeah i think i think i think all ships rise though like all ships rise like i want it like let's all do this together and if i love you i'm also like a very very loyal person like to a flaw to the point where like i i expect that amount of loyalty from everyone because of because i'm so loyal um and i think if you're loyal like that you want to you want those people around you because who are you going to trust more than exactly the people that you've known forever yes it's just like you don't have to do the nda yeah like your family yeah well like like for taylor over there like again we've known since we were 12 years old him and i have worked together in everything that i've ever done and but we are able to step back say okay this today we're having the business dynamic and conversation and tomorrow we're having the best friend conversation it's it's hard though but we've also had instances where we've worked with other friends and family and like when you can't make that switch and you can't just you can't figure out like oh today is like this and that that becomes really messy right totally and it's uncomfortable how have you strategically built your team as you've scaled your business.

30:43Yeah. It's been one of the, I would say, hardest parts of building a business. I think a lot of people would say like managing personalities and managing people is the hardest part. A lot of learning lessons, I think I came into this, both my parents were doctors, so I didn't have any from a small town, didn't go to LA until I was like 21 and then barely spent any time in New York City. So I really had no connections in the garment world or the industry, the entertainment industry at all. So that is really hard. It's really hard to start a clothing brand when you didn't go to fashion school and then you don't have any connections in the garment world because it's really about like who you know, getting good quotes from factories, getting good like timelines and agreements and all those things.

31:30So it took me a long time to find people who could help me produce high quality clothing. So the beginning was sort of a lot of trialing with people that like freelance who could help me make clothes. And then I realized because I'm like business savvy that I was getting pretty screwed on margins. And I was like, oh, I just have to do this myself. Took years, though. I would say like every single year I've learned how to build a better team. And I just slowly over time, you know, just found the right people. Something about Dairy Boy too is like we didn't skip a chapter. Like we did the hats and then we did the sweatshirts and then we got into the more cut and sew garments.

32:09And I slowly sort of got there. And I feel like I really learned and like I think took every step. I think that's something also people do nowadays is that they just want the final result immediately. Right. But they're not willing to like do the building blocks to learn how to get there. And I think that's not only defined who Dairy Boy is because I didn't skip a chapter, but it's also defined who I am because I learned a lot. I've really, I've earned my seat here. Like I've earned my seat in the fashion space. I make really high quality cut and sew garments that are affordable and special. Um, I have an incredible design team that I built over four years.

32:42Um, and I've like, you know, I do what I'm saying. Like I really like had to learn and I wasn't handed anything. Um, and I think nothing, nothing wrong with if you were, I mean, that sounds kind of nice, but I think that that's also people who have followed Dairy Boy for a while know that. It's important. You've done every, like, I think about like a McDonald's, you've literally done every job. Every job. Every job. So that's the best way to run and own a business. You understand every area of the business. I think it makes me a better boss. I'm speaking to people. I've actually worked in like sales associate.

33:14I've worked as a waitress. I've worked like I understand what it's like to also be employed to someone. how do you think about each drop you do because there's there's a lot of purpose and intention that I see behind each thing you do it feels like you're telling a story yeah and it's thoughtful with how even I was looking at your Instagram stories how you sort of tease what is your what is your mindset around all of that I really view it as storytelling and I just sort of it's like intuitive for me like honestly I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing which feels pretty amazing. Yeah.

33:48But I think I mean, even my day to day stories, I try to like storytell in the sense of like what you know, I start my I do a morning story. I do an afternoon story and I do a night story. And I always also like including some sort of like food for me. If you're following me, I want you to actually I want it to add value to your life. Like that's actually how I view it. So I don't want you to just follow me because like I like beautiful things and have like, you know, I wear outfits or I do makeup like I want to really. So that's why I try to do a lot of recipes. I love to cook. I love the home.

34:17But I try to give like tips and tricks also. Like I want to actually have you when you see my little story bubble, you actually want to click it because you actually know that like it's going to be something of substance. So that's also how I view Dairy Boy quality over quantity. How I run my personal Instagram is how I run Dairy Boy's Instagram. So is this engaging? Like, does anyone care about this or is this just like filler? Is this just like an e-com photo that like no one actually is going to care about? Like what story is each thing telling. Like, for example, I'll post to my PJs in the morning.

34:46The story that I'm telling is this is the PJs that I wore to bed. These are the PJs that I designed and I love them. And this is like me in the morning. And then I go to work and I show something for my day at work, something exciting. Maybe it's a tease. Maybe it's what I had for lunch. Maybe it's something funny that happened in the office. And then I go home and I wind down and I try to also show that. So that's a little story. It's like a little vignette into like a day. And then with Dairy Boy, it's different, but it's also similar. There's an arc. There's like a story arc, right? So first I try to create collections that I feel like are fun.

35:18Like I want to have fun with this. I want shopping to be fun again. So for example, our last PJ drop was a farm friends drop and each of them has a theme. I also feel like I've, it's like, I don't have like a word for it yet, but I've sort of like beautified clothing. Like the fact that you want like collectibles, right? Like the consumerism of like I have this PJ, but I, that I want this one at the next drop to like collect. This is why they're calling you. I was trying to explain this to Michael, the next Ralph Lauren. You've heard that. Yes. Yes. That's what the headline is. Yes. That's a good compliment.

35:52It's so flattering. It's so flattering. And it's, it was actually really for the first time people have been saying that for a bit, but I only recently watched his documentary. Did you resonate? And I was just like shocked. I was shocked at, um, there's so many differences, but so many. similarities and not even about the brands like we put the brand aside just like him and i as creative directors because that's really what i feel like i am yeah it's like started with the ties yeah collection but it's the way that like i'm a dreamer like i'm a to my core with like my career i'm very ambitious but like i am like a dreamer like i'm very like my life is like cinematic when i listen to music i'm like i think of it as like something greater than life itself and and I view everything with like beauty, like truly.

36:34Like I love waking up and I love, like when I look over, I like romanticize life and he does that too. And he was really into movies and cinema and like the romance of life and like making life feel like cinema feels. And again, he's like, I don't feel like a fashion brand. I don't feel like a fashion brand either. He's like, I made clothes for life. That's like what I say all the time. So it was really - The clothes that he did is basically built around the lifestyle that he wanted to leave. Yeah, and it's cool because that's how I design collections. So I don't design collections like fashion brands do.

37:09We stay on a calendar now, but I think of like a world and a time and a place and where I want to shoot the campaign and the concept. And then we design clothes into that. Cool. So if someone who worked at a traditional fashion brand came and looked at our design meetings or came and looked at our design studio that we have, because we have a pretty big design team now, they would be like, this is completely different and a completely unique process. Even our collections look really different. For example, for fall, we have this collection that is like all fleeces and tops and jackets and like one pair of pants.

37:43And my designer, my design director, Maddie, she's amazing. She worked at Ralph Lauren and she worked at Love Shack and a few other brands. And she, in the beginning, was like, oh, we can't do this. Like, we need to have a top with a bottom and it has to be like this and it has to be it's a very like corporate like you know corporate fashion and we've completely thrown out the the um playbook or the rule book and i'm just like no i want to make these things and and this is what i want to wear in the fall and this is the world and people don't care like they don't care if it's not like this like perfectly curated fashion collection that's not why they're buying it especially these days yeah people consume and and and i think that people have also tried to like discredit that i you know that that part of my business like oh it was like merch or it's no like it's it's it's a real we're doing cut and sew garments like i have a real design team that um are from these fashion brands that love working at dairy boy more because it's more creative it's more free it's more unique and like everyone has fun

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42:13I wanted to learn how to run a bigger organization. I wanted to evolve my understanding of what it looked like to run a bigger organization. So when I found Masterclass and Bob Iger's course, it was an absolute unlock for me. And here's the thing. I went to Masterclass because I saw so many incredible names. But what I found most intriguing about it is the class was taught by someone who's actually the best in the world at it. So in this case, it was Bob Iger. But here's the other thing I took away. There's so many other incredible teachers on that platform whether they be entertainment and cooking There's something for everyone on this platform And it's really for people who just want to be better in life, which I hope is everyone that's listening to this podcast What I also love about masterclass is it fits into real life.

42:50I'm busy. I got a lot going on I've got children. I've got a company. I've got a wife There's never enough time in the day And for me trying to find a platform that works with me and not against me has been so important So they have this audio mode that you can do when you're commuting They have short lessons that you can use on your phone or TV, and you don't have to carve out all these different hours in the day. You just have to start and get going and take the time to find pockets in the day that work for you. So check them out. Masterclass keeps adding new classes, so there's never been a better time to get in.

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44:40Aminos support metabolic health, physical strength, and they maintain your shape as you get older. If you want transparent, research-backed, clean amino acids, check out Kion. Go to getkion.com slash skinny for 20 % off. That's getkion.com slash skinny. To understand who I am and understand what I've done takes some thought. I actually think that. I could sit with you guys for four hours and tell you about my childhood and where I went to school and then the jobs I worked in New York and then why I'm an influencer and then the lemonade stand. Social media can't encapsulate all of that. If you just follow me on Instagram because I like beautiful images and I like curating, you might think that like is there like a soul or like a person and thoughts and passion behind like these curated images and I think that's why my YouTube has been so amazing because you can really get to know me but I think especially women we the people want to just call us one thing and they don't want to take much time to think about it they don't like the nuances right they don't they want me black or white and also they want to put you in the box tie it up yeah and that's a lot easier for a lot of people and I think it's also a lot easier for a lot of people to just believe like the quick thing that they saw, the quick headline that they saw.

45:53And listen, like in passing, when you're following creators, public figures, you might see one thing about someone once. And that's like, and in your, and in your busy lives, that might be like all that you're ever going to think. And it's not my job to prove none of, I can't be our jobs to prove anyone wrong. But I think that what has been amazing about Dairy Boy is as it's grown, it's undeniable that I work hard. And you can think all of you want about me. You could think whatever rumors that are not true, you can, you could think whatever you want about me. All I really want to ever be known for.

46:25And like the legacy that I want to leave is that I work my fucking ass off and that I love what I do and that I'm passionate about what I do. And I love my community. It's easier for people to say something was given or something fell on your lap. And what it is, is like, listen, I've had that my entire life. My dad did well. People say like, listen, my 82 year old dad did not give me a digital media business in the podcast space. But the point is, is that it's easier for someone to look at something that exists that's successful and say the only reason it exists is because it was given or it fell in or it happened easily.

46:56Because if not, if they have to actually say, wait a minute, that person worked hard, had a good idea, put a different spin on it that nobody else saw, figured out how to trudge through the shit, it's a reflection on like, well, why not me as well? And then you have to go through the exercise of like, oh, because people have to come to the realization that if it wasn't given in your case, or it wasn't just found that it's also possible for anyone. Right. That's also harder. Yes. It's requirements. Then it requires all the things that you've had to do to get rid. And I think that's hard because you want to look at someone that's maybe around your same age, or maybe that's in your same demo, or maybe grew up the way you did.

47:34And you want to be like, well, that only happened because somebody gave it to them. Instead of saying like, shit, I should have maybe applied some of the tactics they did, some of the hard work, because I could have done the same thing. And I think what's happening even more is like when you start to see people where that grew up in the same way you did or come from the same town or went to the same school, it's like, it's a reflection of like, why them and not me. It's a really interesting thing. Also, this is like kind of side note, but I, there were a few people that were like really, really nasty to me, like harassing me level mean, um, like just horrible saying horrible, horrible things beyond just like hate.

48:08And actually it was able to like find out who they were and they were, most of them were from Connecticut. I'm sure. And that was really interesting to me. Yeah, it was really interesting to me. That just gave me chills. Yeah, I've never shared that before, but that was really interesting to me because it actually was weirdly comforting. And I'll tell you why, because it made sense to me. I'm also a very empathetic person. It makes sense because if you look at it - It's a reflection of them. Yeah, but I think for some reason I thought I was, I don't know, at Dairy Boy, we do have a lot of middle America, which I love.

48:37I want to target those people. I want to target people that are not in New York and LA, even more so than New York and LA, because I want those people to feel included and like they're a part of something. But I was like, oh, maybe, I don't know, maybe this is like a Facebook mom somewhere. I don't know. I don't know why. I just, I did not think that. I don't know why. You have two choices though on how to look at people. You can look at them and their success and be discouraged and shut down by it. Or you could look at them and say, oh my God, that's so inspiring. And that's the blueprint in the roadmap, maybe not in the same path that I can take.

49:09And you really like the perspective you have is going to determine your life. 100%. I always say like, if you're even like reading these like forums or reading like nasty comments about people, I think, and enjoying it and engaging with it, I think it hurts you more than it hurts the other person. And I think that can go for life as well. Like, you know, how you view other people and how you view other people's success or how you undermine people's success directly impacts how successful you are and how productive you are. Do you think happy people that are enjoying and winning at life are sitting in Reddit threads reading hate about themselves?

49:45No. No. I'm sure who knows what people are saying about us on any given basis. Of course. But I'm enjoying my happy, successful life. And what I tell people that are engaging with that stuff is that has no impact on me. What is it doing to you if you're consuming that way? It's not helping you. It's definitely harmful. But what does make me sad because people have been really horrible since since kind of it started becoming a thing really particularly horrible to me I've also just grown up in my 20s on the internet so there's a lot to talk about like it's because you're doing a lot of phenomenal things yes but you know I've also like grown up on the internet right like I've you they've seen me go through relationships they've seen me grow up so there's and I'm on YouTube so yes I think there's a level of, you know, I have come into my own and find my happiness and success.

50:33They don't like it. But what makes me sad is that there are spaces like that, because I think if you're struggling and you're insecure and you're really not doing well, it's like almost like a suck. Like it's like a black hole for people who who want to trash other people and it makes them feel better temporarily about themselves and their situations. But I don't I think that it should be like illegal. like I think that it's so bad for people's mental health and I'm not saying that because they're writing about me and that's not fun I like seriously seriously think that it's bad for society well I think inherently we know that we should not be thinking this way yeah but it's like it's nasty well then you go to a space like oh it's not just me there's other nasty people like me but hate breeds hate yeah like we need so much more like love and like it just it's really I really, really think it's like seriously scary.

51:22And I also think that like, I don't know, I've been lucky that I've like grown to have tough skin and I, it's never impacted my business. It's not. It's probably helped. It's probably helped. Well, this is just like not to keep going on and on about this, but I actually was talking to someone recently about this. I think having hate and love creates this contrast that actually makes you have like more aura and like it's actually like and I I haven't found like a good way to say it but I actually think it's like kind of important that if they're like that conversation of like disagreement about someone unless it's like cancel and you're like actually a horrible person and you're like horrible no but that like conversation about someone again if you have a strong point of view if you're not always agreeable is um necessary and not bad but I think I as a creator people are going to talk and say things about me and that's something i've like learned to you know accept and i'm like okay with it now and i actually think like discord is discourse is fine i think too it's a kind of experience stretching with hate like i have heard everything i could possibly hear that it doesn't hurt my feelings oh my gosh no but if it if it would have happened to me like 10 years ago yeah it would have hurt my feelings here's the thing that also and now I'm just like oh that person's hurting like yeah you just don't even like think I've never in all the years and watching her and she you know it's a bigger profile online than me but like doing this read everything under the sun on like people online I've never once had one person in my personal life in real life come up to me and say anything but by the way that's like what's because of my aura but yeah love it but really like so what's interesting to me is like it you know like people that get mad and they're like all this political stuff like go out in the real world people are just doing their thing like you're not having these nuts scream in your face as a matter of fact if you were in a restaurant and somebody was rabidly screaming they need to leave well people would look at them like they were a psychopath right and so i think it's um people have gone way too comfortable yeah it doesn't it doesn't happen i mean i guess like also you know back i'm a little bit older than you guys but you know back in the day you pop off to someone like that like you're gonna end up with your tooth in the back of your throat you know what i mean like wait i say this all the time and i like cannot say this because it's like it's like i just think it's like we grew up in an era where like you couldn't do that kind of you get punched in the face you need to be careful yes someone tweeted once being like we've um it's gone too far like basically people are not worried about they're gonna get punched in the face when they say stuff anymore i'm just like i'm gonna fucking punch you right in the face if you say something to me in person wait but like i love that by the way i think that that's good we're not doing that anymore you've been there done that do you used to get into bar fights oh my god it's honestly like that's kind of tea it was a it was kind of hot for a minute yeah i was gonna say and then finally i was like no we're not doing this 21 like no but i mean like i grew up like playing hockey and boxing and doing all this stuff and i mean taylor knows like back i mean like back in the day like you just like you just you shoot you like kind of showed up proper with people i agree we need to get back like like you just like let's square up like you would like you would have to and now say it to my face like you'd have to like my face yeah like if you said something wrong you'd have to like quickly like hey i'm sorry for saying that because like if not you're gonna be out in the parking lot rolling around in the weeds yeah you know i mean like but um no i think so i don't know when like i guess like and i don't like to really go down that memory lane with me because it was dark and i need to get but what i would say is tennis but what i would say is what bar fights tennis but once you've been once you've actually real quick once you've actually been punched in the face and punched someone in the face then someone saying they don't like what you said on a podcast really doesn't have much effect like i love that and agree completely.

54:53Where on earth did you find that beautiful Chanel piece? Not your phone. I was going to say he is the most precious. I was talking about the Chanel tennis piece. I was going to ask the follow-up question about your fiance. Excuse me. I saw this Chanel vintage piece. First of all, the tennis ball shoes. Insane. What was that? my stylist is the most incredible. She's a close friend of mine and also, yeah, just my stylist and sources me stuff. And I had sent her these shoes a long time ago and she found them. They're so cute. So cute. If you don't know what I'm talking about, go to her Instagram.

55:34You thought I was going to say, where did you find that beautiful fiance? Yeah. Sorry to your fiance. I was talking about the shoes. It's okay. They're both, you know, tennis related and fun and beautiful. Your fiance is a beautiful specimen as well. He is. So we should put that up. You got to tell us about how you meet your tennis fiance and how you've created this world and story around tennis. So as a, I guess I'll start with how we met. So I was living in New York and this was actually around the time where I had planned to leave New York. So I had, we met during the U.S. Open, like during that U.S.

56:07Open swing, and I had already signed my lease in Connecticut. So I had already planned, I was planning on leaving and I was sort of like packing up my apartment. and we connected on Instagram and he invited me to a match. Hold on, hold on. Yeah. What does he say? Oh, this is good. This is good. I felt like I'd already told this story, but I'll tell it to the people that don't know. Okay. So he had, a few weeks before the US Open, liked a bunch of really random photos of mine. Oh, that's the oldest trick in the book. I love it. Wait, but by the way, by the way, I've been DM'd. I've dated. Like, no one had done this to me.

56:40Creative. Creative, but also apparently something that's like, Tommy was like, oh yeah, that's like the move. It is the move. I like that move. I have been with Lauren since I was 20 years old. I think before Instagram even existed. So I've not - But you've maybe heard of it, guy friends. Like the wholesome photos. No, they go back. Well, I have - No, no, not the thirst traps though. He liked - Yeah, guys do this. I have had my friends tell me - No one had done this to me. Okay. So yeah, it was really precious. He liked, really specific, me eating oysters. Ah, I'm sure he loved eating oysters.

57:09Yeah, which by the way, I said I'm never going to marry a man who doesn't like oysters because I want 24 when I go to dinner and you need to order them with me. And if you're looking at me like I'm disgusting, I will want to die. So he likes the oyster photo first. Then he liked a photo of me with my horse. And then he liked a photo of me with my family. He hit like the trifecta. Wow. And I was like, who is this guy? And he was like this really handsome tennis player. And I had never been DM'd by a tennis player. I have never like DM'd a tennis player. Like this was, this was, it felt like very...

57:43kismet yeah like special and like oh my gosh i was like this is so sweet um he didn't dm me he didn't dm me and i was like who is this guy and he didn't not to be rude but like maybe i don't think this is rude but he had like he had like 40 000 followers on instagram um like so wait hold on let me ask you this that's not like rude but he wasn't like i don't know for the girls in the room like do you want a guy with a bunch of followers no no no we don't we know we 215 yeah no i didn't so it was taylor's like fuck i like the picture of the girl's asshole wrong one so the reason i'm bringing up the followers is because i um being an influencer in new york you're dm by a lot of influence sorry athletes traveling through the cities so yes yeah but i think you also particularly were probably i also think i like i'm giving out the vibe they're giving out the vibe yeah yeah yeah that part yeah i was like i'd like platinum blonde hair that's like very yeah very yeah but they weren't as creative as tommy they were not um so i was i was really done with athletes i decided okay until tommy um i was like i was kind of different though it is different i agree i was really done with athletes and he and he seemed like um it was wholesome yeah and then he didn't dm me and then he didn't dm me and i was waiting and then he liked a few more photos and then i dm'd him what did i said hello question mark like hello um and then he goes hey babe and i go oh no like oh this is this is not good this is not good babe was not good babe was really not good i was like oh yeah it's a little wholesome though kind of babe i don't know i'm like whoa like you've done this before like it's just sort of like slutty to me yeah i get that i like slutty sometimes but yeah i mean babe but like i was just like oh yuck like oh no i also i was like he's literally writing it down with his phone out babe is crazy and by the way when i met him i was like who stole your phone because he's not like the babe type of like flirtatious like perfect for marriage yeah he's not yet perfect yeah he's not flirtatious he's not doesn't like gummy no and he's just very like humble and quiet and he's not like the best so he was like kind of being performative with the babe okay um but it's still I was like interesting and then we exchanged numbers and we were like oh we'll meet up during the US Open like we'll make plans and then he texts me and then he we're not making he's not making a plan with me and then I see he's at the Mets stadium like doing something and I just FaceTime him and apparently he was like shook by this he was like FaceTime out of the blue is aggressive yeah but I'm like I'm a straight shooter I like that I'm very straight shooter I'm like are we doing this or like are we not doing this and I was like are we hanging out tonight and he was he told me he was trying to play it cool because he thought that if he made plans with me I would have been like gotten the ick he also said that if I dm'd him if sorry if he had dm'd me I wouldn't have responded, which is true.

1:00:59Because I was over athletes. You probably would have gotten the ick, honestly. It's really easy to get the ick when you're starting out, I feel like. Yes. And I also just like, again, I was over athletes and I knew what, and if he had DMed me, I would have known what he was doing. It's the US Open. He's coming in for the week. He wants to hook up and then he's going to move on to the next tournament. Okay. So his plan worked and I called him and he was with all of his friends that are now all in our wedding. And I was like, okay, so are we hanging out tonight or what? Like either we're hanging out, like, because I also know these guys have multiple girls lined up when they're in the cities for, so I was like, you're going to go out to dinner with me and we're going to go out to dinner and you're going to see if you like me and you're going to cancel all your other dates.

1:01:37This is in my head, by the way. By the way, though, that is confident and smart because you're right. Like no guys going to a city single and not having, I got the one, I'm only going to focus on the one. I had a roster too. I have guys too. You can't be upset about that though. That's the plan. Yeah, we're both playing the game here and I was like, I'm going to be the first girl because I want to be your first date in New York. because I also had this weird feeling that he was going to be my husband. Like, that's really weird. But I had this feeling where like, I don't know, I had this feeling like he could be my husband.

1:02:06I can't explain anything. There was just like a feeling in my bones. Intuitive. And I also don't, I didn't have that with every guy that I dated. So it wasn't just like, that's like my thing. So where'd you guys meet up? He invited me to a match first. Ugh. To watch him? That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. It was so good. It was so good. Just give up, guys. Guys, no. You better pick up a sport, buddy. I fell in love. I was like, I was like, I was sitting there like, oh, yep, this is, yep, I'm getting married to this man. Yep, yep, yep. I was like, my life flashed before. You gotta get a sport going?

1:02:36Yeah, of course. It's still hot that he's like out playing. I couldn't tell you, I don't know. It was a five setter against another American. It was an incredibly intense match. I told him I brought a friend. I actually brought my mom because my mom knows tennis. Yeah, he didn't know that though because I thought he might think that was weird. My mom was like, I didn't know much about tennis. I just when I thought about tennis, I thought of like Venus and Serena. I like didn't even know there was like men tennis players. And then I realized that there were I mean, I knew there were such a cool sport.

1:03:05It's so cool. But it was such an intense match. The US Open's electric. I fell in love with him. I was like, it was so good. He played it so good. And then I thought that like he could come meet me at like the bar after the match. So that was like funny because I was like, oh, you can like come and get a drink with me. He was like, I cannot like go out on the grounds at the US Open. Like you can't. he's one of the athletes yeah it would be like a yankees player like playing a game and then going to like the like the bar and it's like tom brady going and getting a hot dog after the game i gotta be honest i don't understand sports that much like i don't understand you can't like get into the into the stands with the crowd and be like hey guys like i just didn't know i was just like oh like you're not gonna drink a honey juice with me and then after the match we went to honey a honey do oh wait you haven't been to the us open you need to go no no i haven't been and you know what can you convince my husband to go wait please come to tommy's match um i feel like you and Tommy would really like each other.

1:03:55I would go if I'm invited in that way. I do not like to... You need to be in the box. No, he wants every last thing handled. You need to be in the suite. I'm not in the... He's a brat. I'm a brat. I'm a total brat. I actually would go as far to... I've never called you this on the show. He's a snob. Oh, okay. It's okay. But you earned that. I just don't want it. Like, listen, I... You don't want to be schlepping. I don't want to be schlepping around sweating in a suit in the stands. He doesn't like to sweat. Don't wear a suit. He doesn't like to schlep. He doesn't like to do anything that's not like perfect air condition you want it that's gonna that's gonna lead to a very beautiful like life for you oh i just don't do anything yeah it's perfect i'm trying to teach my i'm trying to teach my daughter what to expect when she starts getting out there in the world like some guy's making you schlep through the thing like okay so honey juice it's the um iconic gray goose drink at the u.s open it is so good i legitimately i'm like drunk the whole u.s open i would i would like to be drunk on a honey juice you come to the match i've been on a bender out here in new york for the last four days i'm having honey deuces at my wedding that's so cute yeah i love that yeah i'm really excited your wedding's gonna be so good thank you i'm really excited it's i've yeah i've been so deep in the planning i'm so excited i'm not stressed at all like i'm just it's just so exciting i think you're not stressed because what you do for a living is almost like planning a wedding with each lunch.

1:05:16Yeah, absolutely. I also think that I'm so decisive and I know myself so well that it's very easy for me to make decisions. Like I'm doing a custom dress and I never saw it until it was done. And is it amazing? It's perfect. When is the wedding and what can you like tease about the wedding? Yeah. Quick break to talk about function. We are all so lucky that we live in modern times. I read a lot a history. And every time I think about what people of the past had to go through and what information we now have readily available at our fingertips, I consider myself lucky every single day. What I love is that we're now able to look under the hood and figure out what's going on with our health.

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1:11:44I get that. Before, like, I get that. When you see me in my dress, you're not going to have seen me in any other gown. I totally get that. And you are going to know that that was my dress and there's no other option. I like a big reveal too. Yeah, like I want my community to be, you know, like excited and and the surprise and It's been really it's not been Like stressful at all for me. I love that. Yeah. Are you having bridesmaids? Yes. Okay So tommy has I have so many childhood friends and tommy has so many friends He's having 10 and i'm having 10 Um, which is a lot But I feel like you have to have a lot or none because yes, I'm where I matched his because if you have a little it's like you cut a lot of people out.

1:12:23Yes. But a lot now it's like. Yes. And to me, weddings truly are a celebration of your friends and your family as well. Like, and I think that that's also what's made me not to like toot my horn, but not bridezilla because I'm not even viewing it as only about me. Like this is about my mom and my dad and Tommy's mom and dad and my best friends and our family. Like it's really like a celebration of all of us. Like I feel like I'm hosting a party for all of us. That's adorable. I love that. Yeah. Before you go you have to share your like page kit with the audience of how to design life on your own terms I think you've done a really good job of that.

1:12:57Thank you I think that taking care of your space Even the small things like if you're in college find bed sheets that you love find a duvet that you love have beautiful candles Have flowers like even to that extent obviously i'm living in like a whole home now in connecticut but even when I didn't have that or I couldn't afford that, I would like make my little studio apartment feel like beautiful. So I think the small things, like a wooden cutting board if you live in the city or like cook yourself dinner, I think make your space feel beautiful and you don't have to spend a lot of money to do that.

1:13:31We have to do a couple quick beauty questions before you go just for the audience. Okay. Eyebrows. What are you doing for your eyebrows? Getting them done in Greenwich with Sadie. She's the best. tint sorry michael just tune out for a minute tint michael nope no tint my hair is so dark my eyebrows would look insane okay and what are we doing for the skin the skin i have a facial every two weeks okay that's my yeah what else am i doing lymphatic i got you an ice roller for your wedding wait i'm i'm obsessed you have to have an og one no you gotta get the new one i'm excited fresh one okay that i got the wedding you have to i feel like you like dm me okay we'll get all the bridesmaids ice rollers that would be so fun the day of just like yeah okay i'm obsessed it can come out in like silver ice what like a cute you know like the champagne dairy boy champagne bucket obsessed okay okay um what else for the skin what else for the skin i've been obsessed with the skin pseudicals pt oxy serum because it literally looks like glass uh-huh do you use it i love it the silver one yeah oh stop michael just fuck off the silver fuck michael I mean, your skin looks pretty glassy.

1:14:39What are you using? He has a 10 step. Love. He talks, I can't that he just involved himself. But yeah, it's like very glass skin. Right, it's a silver one. Okay. Makeup? Makeup, literally obsessed with the anything Victoria Beckham Beauty. Oh my God, that eyeliner. The eyeliner I'm wearing the foundation today is the Augustine Bader. Oh good. It is just so expensive. It makes me like nauseous. but I was like oh this is why it's so expensive it's sparkly oh it's just yeah yeah and when you walked in the skin is like so good thank you are freckles real real real black girl real I used to get made a photo for my friend no no no no no no I love the freckles people are tattooing freckles they are but I used to like a guy once told me like um girls with freckles aren't pretty yeah and I was like where is he where the fuck is he is he the one that's talking somewhere yeah He's probably trolling me somewhere.

1:15:33He's in Reddit. Yeah, he is probably. Lip gloss. Sorry, Michael. Lip gloss. What do I actually... The Clinique Black Honey is like my... I'm wearing it today. It's my tried and true. Nail polish. Russian manicure. All day. All day. All day Russian manicure. Not even a question. Do not even get a manicure if it's not a Russian manicure. Natural nail or Russian manicure. 100 % agree. Yeah. Okay. I feel like... Did I ask all the beauty questions? Oh, hair. I know I missed hair. I got to ask. What about hair? Just like what's what are we doing for hair? I am stopped bleaching the absolute shit out of my hair.

1:16:11I think everyone looks better with their natural hair color. Green. With a subtle highlight. Go look at a picture of yourself when you're five. Yep. And change your hair color to that. Yep. That is how you look youthful forever. Yep. I looked 10 years older when I was platinum blonde. Same. Yeah. Same. Yeah. It was crazy. What is going on with that? You know, it's tough because like in my bones, I would love to be a Scandinavian blonde. Like I like in my spirit, I have 22 inch blonde hair, but that is just not what I was born with. So you just have to like, you know what I'm saying? Yes, I trust my hair has never looked better than beautiful hair.

1:16:44Organ meat. Wow. OK, give me it. Liver. Oh, OK. Can you go kill the cow? I don't kill the cow. Get whatever you're taking. I need some. The heart, the liver is ridiculous. I eat so much organ meat. Wait, this is so. I think I can say this to you because you can. Oh, my God. I love it all. I love all that stuff organ meat and aminos no it's proper it's getting the proper nutrition Lauren that's why you the liver has more whatever is this like a subscription like a box I can get I'm in it I'll text you the whole I have a whole text I feel like we're just like we have so many things no I'm telling you we're like kindred spirits raw milk eggs steak liver oh steak give me the steaks all day I can have steak every day yeah I mean like if you wonder like if things aren't going well it's like you know you gotta eat proper nutrition you can't have the oat milk and like the you know the chemical process i have to ask you this question too before we go workout yeah workout yeah i run and i do pilates running running running is like a dying thing people don't want to run anymore you know why i'm scared to run it's hard on your body i feel like i'm gonna get a jowl yes you don't have a jowl you have a tight face but i for me like i don't know if it's because like i've had three kids and i've got like it's like a lot shaking just get a really good like like you gotta get really good sports bra like i don't know what we got it to but i also don't want like i'm worried like i'm gonna sag you don't look you look why don't you fast walk no no no i credit like my legs to running okay um but one thing one thing i will say i'm very like whole milk meat you know i'm that type of girl but i'm also like people might not know this about me i'm really into Chinese medicine really randomly.

1:18:26Okay. But like for balancing my hormones and like the supplements, it like really keeps my body like balanced. And the one thing she told me when I met with her, she was like, you have a lot of like internal fire and like heat. I sometimes break out here. And she was like, sometimes my period wasn't regular. When I started running, my period got regular. I stopped breaking out. And this beautiful woman who practices Chinese medicine told me to start running. Because also like I have a lot of like energy I have to give out. like that makes sense and sweat but it's not just like sweating in a sauna it's like getting it out like that makes sense she gave me that advice and ever since i started doing that i've like much more balanced as a person that makes total sense you run hot like that too i feel like running for you would get it yeah if you run hot or if you're like i need to do things like not necessarily running but i need to do things to like move like today we went on a walk today and i was like but are you sweating because sweating is really important i sweat a lot okay good kind of gross how do you sweat i mean i just i can i heard that it's kind of But through exercise, it's important to sweat.

1:19:23I'm not like right now, I'm not sweating. But like if I start working out or if I go in a sauna, I can sweat quick. Okay. I actually think that's good for you. It's really good for you. It's very detoxing. Can you text me your Chinese medicine doctor? Of course. Okay. Yeah, it's not good if you can't sweat easily. She has like changed my life. I don't think. She's so calming. Because it's your body removing things. I have wanted you on the show for so long. I'm so happy you came on. Thank you so much for having me on. I'm really honored. Your questions were like really thoughtful. I love what you're doing.

1:19:49Thank you. I think it's great. you're welcome to come back anytime. I would love that. Should we do a part two after the wedding and give a wedding recap? Can we do that actually? 100%. You swear. Swear to God. Should we do it in Connecticut while milking cows? I would love that. Also like around the US Open. Do you get nervous about going on shows? People are going to like try to lean into just like conversations that aren't productive? I get a few reasons. I actually did want to talk about this today. I don't know if you can include it or not but I don't I've had the opportunity to go on some amazing podcasts and I don't like doing it because I think two things.

1:20:17There's a positive and a negative. The negative is is that I think when women in business overly promote themselves, people don't like it. I think when people, when you try to like shove yourself and your point of view down people's throats too hard, you become unlikable. And when you promote too much, like I think when you go on like sharing how much revenue you do, like if I told you how much we were doing at Dairy Boy, you'd be like, whoa, that's really amazing and impressive. But I'm never going to share that until one day when it's intentional and when maybe, you know, down the line when there's like a - Well, the problem is a lot of these reporters, they like want to do a piece but they want you to tell a lot of people won't a lot of these like big um they won't do it without it like i wasn't on forbes like i was supposed to be on forbes 30 under 30 for the past two years but they wouldn't do it because i wouldn't share how much money i was making here i was like i don't care i don't want to be on forbes 30 under 30 because i'm not sharing what you're doing i don't want to come go on and talk about my money i think it's like in poor taste to talk about finances until you know if there's like an acquisition happening i'll go on and do podcasts but i think so again first of all i think when you overly promote as a business owner, as a woman, people don't like it.

1:21:17They don't like to hear how successful you are. They don't like to hear it. You overly promote. So I've been very careful about that. That's first of all. And then second of all, I think that when you're a woman, people want to put you in a box. They want to talk about the men that you've dated, or they want to talk about other things that are just so not relevant, but maybe for the drama podcast or the gossip podcast, that's what they sort of thrive off of. And I... It's easier to get ratings. That's why they do it. Yeah. It's easier to get people to click. I refuse to put myself in that position because I don't need to.

1:21:48My livelihood and my career and my success and my views have nothing to do with that. And I could have milked so much more in my life and in my career. I could have milked so many more situations that I would never do that to those people. Like, I would never do those to people. I don't want to talk about other people. There are even people and women that have been horrible to me and wronged me that I could sit and talk to you about and people would probably be interested in. but I would, even though I don't like this person or that person or an ex, they're not here. I can't have a one-way conversation about someone when they're not here.

1:22:21Like, does that make sense? It makes sense. And I will also tell you. I think it's unfair. Why we podcast the way we podcast. Yeah. And it's not gossip, clickbait, juicy, whatever. Yeah. I don't want to be in a low vibration. It is low vibration. I have no interest in that. That is so true i i don't enjoy yeah it's low vibration right and we don't want to contribute to to people's downfalls or or failure and absolutely that's why i wanted to come on today like the questions you guys ask are are like so lovely and i've watched so many of your guys podcasts and i'm just such a fan and thank you i think that you guys will have a long career in this because of like the way that you are as people because you can't hide that in these podcasts like who you really are 10 years I'm getting a little tired.

1:23:07Yeah, you're tired. You're like, oh, no. Oh, shit. But it is so low vibration. And it's not that I would not, like, if we went to get drinks, I would tell you, like, all my tea. And I would tell you about the girl who did this horrible thing to me or, like, whatever, whatever in the industry, right? But on a podcast, I think it's unfair. Like, I think it's unfair to throw jabs. I think it's unfair to talk shit about other people and give your side of the story when someone's not there. It's not fair also for us as hosts to take advantage of people in that way. Yeah. Because we know the reach and the impact that it'll have.

1:23:40And I know. We could put people in really bad positions. It's irresponsible. But also like. But even if someone was horrible to me, I still wouldn't want to do that to them. For like, I guess like for the people that are thinking about doing something like this. It's short lived because. Yes, it is. You can burn people for a year or two or three. And you burn with them. And then at some point, those people, their reps, the people that know them are going to say, if you go to those properties, they will burn you. And then people just are not going to want to go on the show. I have to be honest though.

1:24:08I really am interested in conversation that's uplifting and up levels my life and the audience's life. And I think when I DM'd you to invite you on the show. Originally, two years ago? A long time ago. I said to you, I don't give a shit. I don't know how I said it. I said, I don't give a shit about any of this. I want to talk about your business. And I think we did do that in this episode. And I hope, and I know that it will inspire a lot of women who are thinking about launching a business or they do have a business yeah that's the kind of impact that i want the show to have and you do and and you do and i'm really really like honored to be here you're great and i definitely want to interview you after your wedding congratulations on all the success thank you engagement and everything i know i feel like i'm gonna so much i don't know i'm really excited for like the wedding recap because i haven't been sharing that much so after there's gonna be like so much yeah you gotta like to talk about.

1:25:00Where can everyone find you? They probably already follow you, but tell us. Paige Loren's on everything. And then Dairy Boy. Dairy Boy. Also, we have a farm stand now. So we've also you can come visit us in person at the farm stand. Tell us about that really quick. Basically, I became very close friends with this woman who ran this farm stand and she was closing it because she couldn't afford to keep it up and it was really run down. And then we basically financially supported her to like start the farm up again. We put a well in and got more farmers and then now it's like the Dairy Boy farm stand and it's like real vegetables from Connecticut.

1:25:34It's the most beautiful, delicious farm stand. Is it in Connecticut? It's in West End. It's like 10 minutes from my house. You need to live in Connecticut. Wait, why don't you? If you guys, was that ever on the map? Connecticut? You're going to kill me. Don't say anything about Connecticut because you've never been. It is really special. I've never been to Connecticut. And the lifestyle is incredible. The winter is a little tough. But so here's what, here was the assessment. I like a tough winter though. Like let's get some grit. Yeah, because it makes the spring and the fall so much better. Our family, my family's still, her family's now in Texas, but my family was in California and San Diego.

1:26:05And so we left and I was like, okay, we have kids kind of like, you don't want to tear the kids that far away. Fair enough. And then, Connecticut, I don't know like. Let's go look at Connecticut. Yeah. I feel called to look at Connecticut. You know what I like to do with these places? Like I like to go and like maybe I'll like rent a place for two weeks or so and then I see but I like to live my life as you never know should we film the podcast at my house yeah and then you can guys can visit do you know how to milk a cow yeah can you show me how to milk a cow yeah I don't like actively milk cows but I know how to milk a cow because my best family friends at a dairy farm if you we show me how to milk a cow Paige thank you for coming on

1:26:51Thank you.