Paul Saladino Tells All: Modern Health Myths, How To Detox The Right Way, & The Truth About Tylenol

23:57That's mostly where we're getting them, unless you live next to a smelting plant in the Midwest or somewhere. And you can flush them out by like sauna, right? And binders. Some sauna, some may come out in the sweat. It's not clear that all of them come out in the sweat, but there is research with multiple heavy metals that they can be excreted in the sweat at levels above what you see in the serum. So some of them can come out through the sweat. Some binders, maybe. The thing about binders that's tricky is depending on the binder you use, whether it's chlorella, right, or cilantro, these are gentle binders.

24:30There are more intense binders like DMSA or something that can pull out the wrong things, right? So they're going to chelate the heavy metals, but they're also going to chelate other minerals you want. So EDTA, DMSO, those are like pharmaceutical level binders that we use. So when a kid, you know, gets lead poisoning, they're given EDTA and that pulls the lead out. So there are ways to do this. You just have to be careful at the level that you're actually chelating the metals out. This is actually something we were talking about before the podcast. Hopefully in the future, we're going to get more methods of detoxification available to us.

25:05There's a procedure that I actually went to Spain to get. I don't, we don't have to talk about this too much because it's kind of granular. It's called inispheresis. And have you guys heard about this TPE, like total plasma exchange? So like Brian Johnson posted a picture of the bag of his plasma on X, like 20 million impressions. The problem with TPE, like people are paying$10 ,000 a session for TPE now. The problem with TPE is that you're getting a donor plasma. So they're taking blood, they're separating - I don't want that. They're separating red cells from plasma and they're giving you donor plasma.

25:37And you don't know whose donor plasma you're getting, right? So there's a procedure that's been done in Europe, and hopefully it'll come to the US in 2026 through FDA approval called inospheresis, where you pull the blood out, you separate the red cells in the plasma, then you run the plasma through a very sort of high density filter. And it can filter out larger proteins, which are often bound to heavy metals. And that is probably a great way to get rid of heavy metals once it's available in the US if sauna, dietary change, gentle binders don't work. For most people, you'll see the levels of heavy metals drop significantly if you just change your diet.

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33:04Wait, does he really? Yeah. If you start icing your balls in the sauna with that creepy hat that you wear, what do you mean? I have to sit next to him with his balls in ice? Well, explain why. Because I was like, but here's the thing. If I'm trying to kind of pump the brakes on the kid factory for a second here. I don't think that you want to... My concern is this. So there's data in humans, pretty clear data, that sauna level heat will negatively impact fertility. If you stop the sauna... In men and women or just in men? In men, primarily. The ovaries are a little more insulated, right? So they don't raise to the same temperature.

33:40The balls are just out there. The balls are just hanging out there. And men will know this. Women may or may not know this. The scrotum has muscles that raise and lower the testicles based on the temperature of your environment because the testicles are ideally... Paul, we know this. All women know this. Supposed to work at a temperature that's a little below body temperature, right? So when men are cold, the testicles go up. When they're warm, the testicles go down. If you sit in the sauna, it's 200 degrees. You can't... Your testicles are just going to get... Everyone's just in there long balling up.

34:05Yeah, they're long balling up. They can't go anywhere. The testicles can't long ball out the door of the sauna. I'm so happy I don't have balls. So, but it's pretty... There's pretty clear evidence in humans that when you do that, you will impact fertility. It seems to recover in about six weeks. It's not permanent. but my concern is, okay, if you're impacting spermatogenesis, could you also impact sex hormone production or other things, which all men, whether they want to have kids or not, care about, right? So you want libido, you want musculature, you want mental clarity, you want sleep, you want regeneration.

34:36All these things are connected with hormonal health too. I have trouble believing that spermatogenesis and hormonal health are completely siloed, right? So I think that as a man, I mean, there are other places in your body where you make male hormones other than testicles, but the testicles are really, and the ovaries in women correspondingly, this is kind of like one of the most important places where we make sex hormones. I'm not trying to cook them. So in practicality, if I need to go in there and keep the balls on ice, you're not going in there, like what are you putting them in? This is for the men out there.

35:05People need to know this. What do you - You could just get an ice pack. Just an ice pack. Just put it on there in the - Wait, so you're icing your balls because you do want more kids right away or you don't? No, you ice the balls so the rest of the body can still heat, but without impact, without overheating the balls and causing... Oh, so you're assuming after three months when I just had a baby that we're going to have another baby? No, no, no. I was saying maybe I should overheat him for a minute, but now I don't want to ruin my sex drive. I don't want to... The potential, what I was saying is I have trouble believing that you can have spermatogenesis and sex hormone production completely separate, right?

35:34Got it. I'm worried that if you're negatively affecting spermatogenesis, you could also negatively affect sex hormones. And men want sex hormones all the time. But a lot of men already know out there that if you're getting ready to try to procreate, Like you kind of, you want to do more cold, not heat, right? Yeah. You want to do more cold, not heat, or you want to ice the balls. So, I mean, and then, you know, it's, it's pretty clear that, that when you. Carson, did you write this down? Make sure you write it down. You're going to need this information later. Okay. Yeah. What is the best, this is a random question that I've been dying to text you and I'll just ask you on air.

36:03What is the best bottled water to drink? Okay. So it's pending. There's an asterisk here. I will tell you in a couple of weeks because there was a recent hubbub about Mountain Valley, right? There was arsenic, moderate levels of arsenic, heavy metal in Mountain Valley. So I don't know if you know this, I built a nonprofit called ABNRF, Animal Based Nutrition Research Foundation, a couple of years ago. Mostly ABNRF handles like our community gatherings and stuff in Costa Rica. But one of the things we started doing this year with ABNRF was doing testing of consumer goods. So we tested all the salts again.

36:36Do you remember the momovation thing that came out with the heavy metals and salts. So we redid that whole analysis and I'll tell you what we found. And we're testing the waters right now. So what we have to confirm is the arsenic levels in Mountain Valley and then see if Saratoga or Icelandic have heavy metals and I'll tell you. So what are you drinking right now? Saratoga. So am I. I have no association. So am I. You know why I'm drinking it? Why? I just love the bottle, how it looks on my nightstand. It's so beautiful. We'll get into collagen and stuff, but it's all kind of connected, right?

37:09There are some waters with more of certain nutrients like orthosilicic acid, so silicone, that can support skin health. There are other nutrients and food that we need to support skin health, but pending data on bottled water. We always talk to the guests before and say, like, what's, you know, Paul's been on multiple times. What's interesting? What's new? I want to talk about this new thing you've been discussing about headphones and thyroid issues. years ago we used to wear headphones on this show we don't anymore we used to i used to wear the bluetooth things don't anymore i only wear wired headphones and now i use like the thing we plug in the phone and you know thank god you got him off that because you know what i do i i told him all this information like two years ago and he didn't listen so i kept sending him your content well my thing is like my my big thing with all of this stuff like as i you know i'm usually i'm not i don't want to say i'm skeptic i've been enlightened over the years but i always say open.

38:02I'm open. You're open. But my whole thing is like, if there's a product that works just as well and there is potentially no downside, then why not do that? So for me, it's like, I have these wired headphones. They're just Amazon products. Nothing's fancy. And they work just as well. So the convenience of wired headphones is undeniable or wireless headphones is undeniable. But this is, again, the thing that was outside the Overton window and now is kind of becoming in the Overton window. I saw other content about people moving away from the wireless headphones, but for the longest time, when I talked about AirPods or the, you know, the, whatever, the super AirPods, the headphones, people would really push back.

38:37And still some people do, but a recent analysis came out. Again, this is just epidemiology, but there is a strong association or at least a significant association between these Bluetooth headphone use. So we're talking AirPods, Beats, whatever, wireless - Anything with Bluetooth connection. Wireless headphones and increased incidence of thyroid nodules. So this is really important for both men and women, the thyroid is kind of your master gland or one of these master thermoregulatory glands in your body and thyroid nodules can be precancerous. And so this is interesting. And I think it deserves more research.

39:10We don't have the full story here, but it makes sense, right? You have proximity, you know, you have a very sensitive, hormonally active gland in your neck and inches away from that, you are using a RF EMF. So radio frequency EMF emitting device. and I can measure this. I've done multiple pieces of content where you can put an RF meter. It's the kind of thing that looks really geeky, but you can get these meters and you can see how much radio frequency EMF is coming off of these earbuds. And it's essentially like a small microwave in your head for how many hours a day? Like three, four, two, six.

39:46I see people walking around with them in the airports just all the time. But you can take like basically, so the measurement of these AirPods or these headphones is in microwatts per meter squared. You can measure the exact same thing out of your microwave. The RF band of a microwave is essentially the same as your cell phone, the same as these Bluetooth bands. So it's a small microwave in your head. And you can measure, you can take this device and put it next to your microwave and you'll get a huge reading. And it's not as much as a microwave, but it's in the same ballpark. I mean, I won't put the cell phone to my ear.

40:21You shouldn't. I, so I just don't know why I would put these little buds in my ear all day long. It just feels, it feels like my innately, I feel like spidery about it. I've gone back to like Apple 1.0 where you have the thing plugged in and you have the wired headphones and you're talking and conversation that way. And to be honest, like I like it. It feels nostalgic to me. It's, it's, I think it's probably, it's definitely more prudent and I think it's probably safer long-term. I think the reason, though, that you get pushback is there's one, a projection of people who have been doing it for so long that are maybe scared or two, it's a fashion statement to wear, you know, green headphones from Apple.

41:05Like, I get it. Like when those came out, I ran and got the olive ones and they were so cute and adorable. And so you want to like have this fashion statement, but it's almost like they distract you from what it actually is. Here's the thing. I'm not like a tin hat guy. You two definitely are the tin hat people in this. I'm owning it. I'm fine with the tin hat. I'm owning it. But I will say - Does it have EMF in it? I'm just kidding. It's blocks. I've got half a tin hat on. But I will just say we've been living through the last few years where people that are called crazy about sounding the alarm on some of these things get vindicated later.

41:39And so my whole thought process is like, I just don't want to be the first line of testing. I don't want to be the first guy that tries. that like, and again, like I don't, people do what they want. But my thing is like, if there's even a slight chance and there's an alternative that works just as well, but maybe it's not as quite as convenient, I'm going to, I'm just going to do that. My daughter is so cute. She came home. She goes, mom, I need to confess something. She's five. I was like, what? She's like, today I wore headphones, but only for five minutes. She's terrified. Well, you know, I know they're wired and she's like, they're wired.

42:09I'm like, you're okay. You asked her if they're wired. We've talked to her about it. No, but you know, I mean, listen, I think, you know, we just had Jonathan Haidt on the podcast. I just keep saying this because his big thing is like kids, screen time, social media, like he wants them off it. Scary. And, you know, it's something that we have to like, we have to just be, I think the first generation of parents that had children start to use a lot of these new technologies. They didn't know there was no awareness. They had nobody ahead of them that was able to teach them. And like that was, that's a tough position to be in.

42:38And we, you know, we had a woman on right before he was saying, you know, i wish less with that like she was just saying like if she looked back and changed anything very successful and i think like it's the responsibility as you learn more as a parent to like you know guard your kids against things that they just they don't know themselves you know and just and why my whole thing is you remember that old scene in in casino back in the day like maybe number the markers says he probably and they're going around at the end of the movie and they're they're talking about who to whack this is like a weird reference okay and they're going around the car's like what they're going around the table and they're like oh what about i forget the guys and they're like, what about like Big Paul?

43:09And they're like, no, not Big Paul. He's a good guy. And there's like, yeah, he's a good guy. He's like, oh, he's one of us. He gets to the last guy. He's like, yeah, he's a good guy. But why take a chance? That's how I think about all this stuff. I'm like, why take a chance if there's better alternatives? Right. But tell us about bacon. Well, I love bacon. Paul, don't ruin bacon for me. Are you going to? No. So bacon's interesting. Oh, great. Bacon's interesting. This is why I don't text you some question. I know. Saladino ruins everything. Saladino ruins everything. What's wrong with bacon? There's probably nothing really wrong with bacon.

43:41It's an animal food, right? It's just that pigs and chickens are monogastric animals. When they eat higher levels of polyunsaturated fatty acids like linoleic acid in grains and their feed, they store it. What if you get it from the farmer's market. So if you get a wild pig, like in the wild, pigs don't eat grains, right? Mostly now pigs are fed corn and soy and chickens are fed corn and soy. And so we can see a transition in the composition of the fatty acid, the fatty acid makeup of an egg yolk based on what a chicken is fed. And we can see a transition. We can see a change in the composition of the fat of a pig based on what the pig is fed.

44:20So if you're getting a pig and it's really pastured and it's mostly eating roots and it's not really being fed corn and soy, the amount of linoleic acid in the fat of that pig is going to be probably lower than it is in most mainstream pigs. So a wild pig, maybe five or 6 % of the fat is linoleic acid. Traditional, conventional pigs and most pigs, even organic pigs that are fed corn and soy, 20, 25 % linoleic acid. And so this gets a little technical, but it gets to this overarching question of how much of this fragile polyunsaturated fatty acid can humans handle without it negatively affecting our health.

44:59The biggest source of this fatty acid, linoleic acid, is seed oils, right? That's really my problem with seed oils, is that not only are they refined, bleached, and deodorized, when you eat seed oils, you are packing your body full of this fatty acid in historically unprecedented ways. And your body doesn't know what to do with it, we store it. so you can sample someone's fat and that fat is a direct reflection of your consumption of linoleic acid because we store polyunsaturated fats we don't get rid of them the way we do we we have the ability to make and interconvert monounsaturated fats and saturated fats but polyunsaturated fats we store and so for how long or for we we can we will recycle them there's there's a flux based on what we're eating but they get stored in our fat knowing all the things that you know and what you do for a living.

45:49What are your like pet peeves in the wild? Like for instance, when you get in an Uber and it smells like cologne, like give me like your pet peeves of that you just cannot do it. I posted this on X the other day. I got in an Uber in Miami and I posted this like selfie video and I said like, I just lost Uber roulette because there were three, you know, trees. There are three Christmas trees hanging here. I'm in the backseat and he hung them in the back seat there were three on one side and one on the other and two on the rearview mirror and i had the windows rolled down but i'm just i'm just i just wanted to rip them off and throw them out of the car so yeah it looks like the joker in the dark night when that's going on i go like this i go i go like this i go like it's her head's out the side of the window this is why i think it's invasive it's like projecting someone's scent onto other people do you know what i mean like when someone wears the strongest cologne in the world it's like if you want to wear your cologne, wear your cologne, but don't make everyone around you suffer.

46:48And cologne, I mean, perfumes, colognes, fragrances, personal care products, these are full of these fragrances, these parabens, these phthalates. They're clearly endocrine disrupting in humans. And when you're smelling them, they're going into your body. And so this is a study that I wanted to talk to you about. This is really interesting. And so we're talking about, this is a big thing. I don't want to circumvent your question about in the wild stuff, but we have to talk about the study where they had women not use personal care products with these parabens and phthalates for 30 days. And they saw not only decreased urinary levels of these endocrine disrupting chemicals, but changes in the breast tissue.

47:26Because these chemicals can be so hormone disrupting and estrogen mimicking that they can create pre-cancerous changes in the breast based on what you're putting on your face or your skin. That's crazy. How do we test our products to see what's in it? So you have to read the label and the labels are so hard to read. I actually brought some and we can look at them, but the labels are so hard to read that I think that as a guy, I mean, maybe you're the same way. I don't understand half of what women use or 98 % of what women use on their faces and stuff. I think that you just have to really at least start by looking for brands that are saying that they're natural, paraben-free, phthalate-free.

48:02You don't want these compounds in your skincare products, like the lotions, the moisturizers. These are potentially pretty problematic for humans. And so that's where to start. And then I think we can look at actual ingredients. Somebody actually says paraben or phthalate on the label. Fragrance is often a blanket term for these phthalates. And so just like this Uber with this fragrance, these phthalates spewing things, we are now putting these all over our bodies and like actually directly affecting our hormones negatively at the level of our glands, at the level of our testicles or ovaries, at the level of our, when women, breast tissue that's hormonally active, it's scary stuff.

48:38We need to look into our product. In the line of On the Wild, I think a lot of people, I mean, listen, what I would say is this, you know, we're getting into some advanced stuff. Obviously, you've got to listen to your first few episodes with us and some of the other work. But for the people that are just trying to take care of their families and they're hearing this and they're scared and they're getting ready to go in the grocery store to shop for a week. Where would you tell those people to start so that they don't feel overwhelmed and don't feel scared? And give us exacts, like what you would pick up.

49:03Like if someone's like, hey, they came to Paul and they're like, Paul, I want to like overhaul my life and I want to shop well for my family and myself. Like, where do you tell them to start? What do you tell them to avoid? So, I mean, a good resource, you could start with animalbased30.com, which is Heart and Soil, sort of like 30-day animal-based challenge. A lot of resources there. And so I think that what you're going to learn in there is you just shop around the outside of the grocery store, right? And this sounds trite, but it's true. Like, what's in the middle of the grocery store is dangerous hunting grounds for humans.

49:30Those are not the places you want to venture. So what are you picking up when you're at the grocery store? So I start in the outside. I go straight to the meat, right? And I'm looking for high-quality meat. I mean, they're looking for, generally I'm eating grass-fed, grass-finished beef. There's a new butcher in town in Austin. Have you guys seen Radius? No. I have no affiliation with them, but it's awesome. What's it called? Radius. Radius. Really, really cool butcher. So I want the highest quality meat that I can get. I mean, maybe I'm just going to go to a butcher like that to get grass-fed, grass-finished beef, but I eat a lot of beef and women especially, but all of us have been kind of psyoped in the last 60, 70 years to fear red meat.

50:04but I know you've had incredible health improvements and stuff by eating more beef or at least more protein in your diet. So start there. Get high quality animal foods, high quality eggs, simple foods, single ingredient foods to start. So meat, eggs, these have single ingredients. They don't even have a nutrition label. And then when you're looking at things beyond that, you're like, okay, what about plant foods? Just get unprocessed plants. Like if you want to get vegetables, great, get fruit. You really can't go wrong with meat, eggs, vegetables, and fruit. what's up with the pushback with eggs?

50:35I think, what do you mean? The cost of eggs or the... No, there's a whole pushback on eggs right now. I'm seeing it on Instagram. What? It's exhausting. What do you mean pushback? It's on and on. You haven't seen it? I saw one guy go into a grocery store and look at where the eggs were coming from. No, there's a pushback on actual eggs. Pushback on what? I'll send it to you. Or like you shouldn't eat eggs. They're not healthy? They're saying they're not healthy. Well, those people are lunatics. Okay. I don't understand it. If you tried to get me off eggs, I would just stop. I've heard some people don't do it because of acne reasons?

51:02I love eggs. Like some people say that they can't have eggs because of acne. There's a protein in the egg white called albumin and the egg albumin, ovoalbumin can be somewhat, it can be immunogenic in some people, but not others. And so milk can be the same way. I mean, I love raw milk. I drink a lot of raw milk, but there are some people that just can't drink milk because it seems to not work for them, even raw milk immunologically. And so people are very bio-individual. I mean, when people say like, if they said they don't like eggs or they don't eat eggs or whatever, but when people say eggs are bad for you, I take issue with that.

51:34That's insane. I don't know how they would justify that claim. I'm going to send you the clip. Yeah, please send me the clip. They're some of the most nutrient-dense foods you can have. I eat eggs every day, by the way. I love eggs. Well, you think about what's in an egg, right? You've got choline, which is great for our brains. It's great for developing kids. It's pregnant mothers, postpartum, right? There's not a lot of choline in plant foods. You get choline in meat as well, but eggs are an incredible source of choline. Biotin, which is technically a B vitamin, that's good for skin health. Not a lot of great biotin sources in plant foods.

52:02You've got folate, you've got preformed vitamin A in the retinol form. I mean, the list goes on and on. And the egg yolk is like so nutritionally rich, riboflavin. And it's a unique set of nutrients that are often a little bit hard to get other places. Not impossible always, but there's a lot of unique nutrients in egg yolk that are valuable for humans. One thing that I think has grown my hair like no other is organ meat. and collagen and amino acid beef collagen what is it's nose to tail collagen yeah this stuff yes the lineage yeah i hope you know what i forgot it's beef it's beef collagen yeah yeah okay so so is my theory though on how i grew my hair correct because my friends will text me and be like lauren how do you grow your hair and i'm like it's organ meat amino acids and collagen but there's amino acids in the shot but don't get rid of our supply okay I got your supply.

52:55Reserve us a few. Wait, but is that theory correct? Does it make sense to you? It makes total sense. And I'll tell you why. If you think about hair and skin, right? What do you need to make collagen? So first of all, think about skin, right? You have the epidermis, the dermis, and the hypodermis, the three layers. The dermis, so that second layer is where all the collagen is. And in the dermis, you have fibroblasts. These are cells of your body that secrete collagen and they also secrete elastin and elastin-related peptides. So the epidermis is not really a lot of collagen. It's the dermis. So how does the collagen get there?

53:27You have fibroblasts making the collagen. There's different types of collagen, type one, type three, type five, type six, type two. But in order to make the collagen, there are certain nutrients you need to make these. Make collagen. And the nutrients are vitamin C, zinc, copper, even creatine is helpful, and maybe a little bit of silica or like orthosilicic acid. So you think, where do you get copper and zinc? These are hugely bioavailable in organs. And organs are an incredible source of copper. Muscle meat, not a great source of copper. There's copper in mushrooms, but is it as bioavailable?

53:59Like liver is an incredible source of copper. So what you're doing when you're eating like organs is you're getting unique nutrients, especially zinc and copper in highly bioavailable forms. And that gives your body sort of the cofactors needed to make the collagen. Then you need amino acids because collagen, like glutathione that we talked about earlier, is a tripeptide. It's three amino acids, generally speaking, glycine, proline, hydroxyproline. And those three amino acids are found most richly in other collagenous tissues. So there is glycine in muscle meat, but there's more glycine in collagen.

54:33And we don't really take collagen undigested and incorporate it into our body. We break it down in our stomach into smaller units than the full collagen molecule because collagen is a long chain. Collagen is actually a triple heli. It's It's like three molecules of this collagen wrapped around each other in an alpha helix. You know, DNA is kind of this helix, this double helix. Collagen is like a triple helix. It's a really cool kind of fiber. And the way it works is when you break that fiber down into component amino acids, there are dipeptides that survive. It's usually proline, hydroxyproline.

55:08So this is two amino acids. So that long strand of collagen gets broken down in your stomach, but that dipeptide survives and that dipeptide actually signals in your body, which is really cool. The same thing happens with elastin. There are elastin-related peptides that signal in your body, probably to the fibroblasts in the dermis to make more collagen. So people will say, oh, you can't digest, you digest the collagen. You can't take collagen and make more collagen. Well, technically no, but you're giving your body the raw materials. If you're eating organs, you're getting the cofactors needed in the minerals and the nutrients.

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1:00:41I use it while pregnant and it just gives your brows this like glazed, useful look, almost like a feathered brow. It's so pretty. I caught Michael using it. That's how like clean it is. A guy can use it and it lifts your face. I use this after my skincare. So in the morning, I habit stack it onto all of my skincare. So I'll do everything. I'll put my caffeinated sunscreen on and then I'll just use the spoolie to go through my brows and brush them up. And like I said, it gives you like a wet lifted look. And then I also will use the little lash one. See how we have like a little lash situation at the bottom on top of my lashes before I go to bed after my skincare.

1:01:27You can touch up your brows with this. I sometimes even will use brow pencil. My makeup artists use it. I think this is my favorite Skinny Confidential product. I'm very, very proud of this. And it works. It grows your brows because like I said, castor oil, Egyptians telling you, you got to try this. I have one in every purse. You can't go wrong. You can subscribe on our site, shopskinnyconfidential.com and it's delivered straight to your door. If you want to upgrade your beauty routine and upgrade your eyebrows and lift your face, you got to try the Skinny Confidential's Brow Peptide. because of the glycine are you maybe better off taking this at night instead of the morning before bed people do yeah glycine is one of these amino acids that is thought to be calming and maybe crossing the blood-brain barrier and affecting GABA so there's the GABA receptors in the brain which affect alertness what I do with this this is what I do every morning every single morning i take two sometimes three scoops of the nose to tail collagen every single morning and then i put my electrolytes in it i put a packet of vitamin c a packet of elderberry from symbiotica and i froth it up and i drink that down before i have coffee and that gives me a little bit of protein it gives me an electrolyte and it gives me some vitamins and then i have my coffee after.

1:02:51It's great. I mean, you don't need electrolytes. This has a sea salt in it. Just a little. Sometimes I also put the heart and soil protein powder in that concoction too. That's great because then you're getting more of the raw materials because collagen again is mostly glycine proline, hydroxyproline. But when you have the whey protein from heart and soil has a more full complement of amino acids, right? That's why I mix it in. So collagen is not necessarily the protein you want to take if you want to build muscle, but it does have the precursors to make collagen and potentially the signaling molecules and the dipeptides.

1:03:25So if people don't know, Lineage is a company that I co-founded. And I just, one of the things that we do with Lineage is I wanted to make things like meat snacks or meat sticks or collagen better than what I saw out there because there's so much, there's just stuff that wasn't, it's like the way that we formulated it makes so much sense. So in that we didn't, we put beef collagen, but it's not just that, right? We also put eggshell membrane because the eggshell membrane has elastin. And then you have acerola berries to get the vitamin C. You have sea salt for absorption. And then it has trachea and scapula cartilage in addition to the beef collagen to get type two collagen.

1:03:57Who turned you onto this? No, no, I love it. He came to me about his hair. He was like, I want to grow my hair, blah, blah, blah. I was like, you came to the right place. I was like, two to three scoops of this. I love this stuff, but I was also turned on to the more complete protein and amino acid formulas from other places as well. You can mix it together. I've noticed a lot of women that I speak to in our lives are saying they're getting their protein with collagen. And I always point out to them, you can tell better. You got to eat the meat. Yeah. And I think this is - Because there's also a lot of bars coming out.

1:04:29They're like, oh, we use collagen. It's not going to get what you need. Not enough. So this is interesting. And this is exclusive here. I'm going to drop this on Skinny Confidential. So Lineage is also coming out with a protein bar and it's going to have whey protein and collagen in it. Smart. And we want to put a link in the show notes in the description if you want so that your audience can get the first access to the bar Because it's coming out the beginning Like a little later this year the beginning next year, but this is super exciting because the protein bars out there Are garbage and we wanted to make a better protein bar So we're going to make a protein bar with whey protein and collagen And we'll put a link if you guys want in the description so people can access that like exclusively Can they go shop the collagen?

1:05:07I like with code skinny. Yeah, sure Code skinny. What do they get off? I don't know off the top of my head, but okay You get a discount. The one I like is the nose to till collagen. But I also don't sleep on the 60 grams of protein organ sticks that I eat. They're in my purse. Those organ sticks are everywhere. My kids eat them. That's how they get their organs. And I think of it like a little vitamin. It is. And whether you get it with fresh or you get it in the sticks, however, like we said, there are unique nutrients in organs that we often don't get, like copper or peptides and things like this.

1:05:42But your point is well taken. Like the idea that you don't want collagen to be your main protein source. And if I could say one thing - Well, I see a lot of bars doing that and people thinking they're getting their protein and it's not - It's not complete. You want the other amino acids to go with it. And you also, like if women just, and I think you are like the perfect poster child for this, Lauren, if women ate more meat, they would just feel and look better. The nutrients that women need are in meat. And there's been a psyop against women to not eat meat well listen as her husband it's funny we've she's adopted eating a lot more meat of the last especially since we've moved to texas and lifting weights and organs and organs and like i've been with her pretty much our whole life since you know since i was 20 now and newer since we're 12 and i think like this is the healthiest she's been i mean ever right well i have to lose 30 pounds right now but i mean like but still beyond that like happy healthy all the things.

1:06:37And like the diet completely changed from when I think you were less happy and healthy. I, everyone knows I eat a bowl of meat every single day. A bowl of meat. I love it. It's a, it's ancestral blend by force of nature. It has the organs in it. I have someone at my house. It's incredible that cooks it up with some spicy salt. And I just add whatever I feel like that day. And you can add sauerkraut. You can add rice. You got all sorts of stuff. And listen, the bowl of meat, it keeps the hair growing, keeps the collagen plump. Keeps the fertility strong. Keeps the fertility. You guys just making good babies in the world.

1:07:13I mean - You know, I just have to say this because I'm so appreciative that you came into the documentary. Yes. Tell us about that. People may not know this, but I made a movie. It's coming out later this year. We're doing a film tour in December. Lauren is in it. I am. And you look amazing. And she tells her story in the movie. The movie is called Food for Humans. So hopefully when this podcast comes out, there'll be tickets on presale at foodforhumans.com. But here's the deal. There's so much vegan propaganda out there. And I've met too many people in my life who said they went vegan because they saw a documentary.

1:07:44So I really felt like I wanted to tell the story of just how important animal foods are in the human diet and how we can really change fundamentally how healthy we are and cure a lot of chronic illness just with what we eat in a documentary that says, hey, it's okay to include meat in that. And so that's what we did. I worked with a team out of Philadelphia and Los Angeles for the last two years. It's been a long project, but it's exciting. So December is going to be the film tour. We're going to be in New York, Chicago, hopefully Austin or Dallas, somewhere in Texas, and then Los Angeles and maybe Phoenix.

1:08:17And then the movie will come out January the 1st. I was flattered to be a part of it because I wanted to share my whole journey with the meat. Listen, you got to do what works for you. Test it out, give it a ride. It's worked for me. But I think it's so cool because I cannot, I mean, you probably know, you know this better than me. When I'm in the world, people come up to me sometimes and they say, hey, you know, I benefited from what you do. But I just want to appreciate you because there are probably thousands, if not tens of thousands of women who eat meat because of you, because you as a woman, we're talking about that.

1:08:48And that is awesome for these women. Like that's so cool. How many lives of women that may have been fearful of meat and they hear you talking about how much better you feel with it and they're benefiting. So thank you for sharing that in the movie and in general. I love it. I'm passionate about it. I mean, it's really changed my life. On that note, I think it's like a relevant question to end the show with. We'll have some wrap-up first, but this one is, you know, you've been at the forefront of this health conversation for a long time now. And like we mentioned earlier, somehow it's gotten, health has become political.

1:09:16Yeah. How do you think we get health to get out of the political realm and back into where it belongs, which is with everyone that just cares about looking and feeling. How do you reach those people that are determined to keep this issue political? Because for me, whenever people write some bullshit hit piece on Lauren and I, it's always because of the political health bias. And I'm like, guys, it's painting a picture that's not there. We care about health. I don't care if it's left or right or up or down that's talking about it. We care about health. How do you get people to look at it that way again?

1:09:46I think we just keep doing what we're doing. And I think that people on both sides of the aisle, it's a bipartisan thing. People are going to get sick who are on the right. People are going to get sick who are on the left. And I hope that both political persuasions or people who are in the middle who are libertarian or wherever, I think, I hope that people from across the spectrum will benefit from authentic, candid conversations like this about health. And then I think over time, the truth, the cream rises to the top, right? The truth comes out. And I think, again, I think that unfortunately health topics have been painted too far to the right, probably because of the Maha movement, right?

1:10:27So like Make America Healthy Again movement. Like for some reason it got to be controversial. I understand some of the stances on vaccines and stuff. MAGA, MAGA, Maha. It's close enough. Maybe the lettering, right? Yeah, it's close enough. So that's just silly, right? Because I know that the people that may not agree with right-centered politics or right-leaning politics will still unfortunately experience health issues. And I hope that they can benefit from candid conversations with this, which are not meant to be political at all. They're meant to be bipartisan. I mean, maybe this is a bad example, but RFK has said, you know, like children don't have a political persuasion, right?

1:11:07Yeah, if you go ask our kids right now, which way they lean, they're gonna be like, what the fuck are you talking about? I just wanna go play on the slide. Honestly, it's refreshing. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I mean, but I think, listen, what I believe is that at the end of the day, Americans and people, people all over the world, they want their kids to live the happiest, healthiest lives they can. And I think like the responsibility of adults is to create that possibility for future generations. And so I don't care who on which side of the aisle does it. I just care that somebody's focused on it and doing it.

1:11:36So for that, like, I thank you because I, and many others, because you guys are a part of that and really like, you know, Lauren and I are a small class. conduit for people like you that are really pushing it. And I think you're doing a great job. And I think more people should take it seriously because the fact of the matter is whether you like it or not, people are getting fatter, sicker, more autoimmune issues, more chronic disease, more things that in my opinion are avoidable. It doesn't have to be that way. Yep. It doesn't have to be that way. It doesn't have to be that way. And I think, I mean, hopefully I get to have kids at some point in the near future, but I think that And like one of the biggest, most important things we do in this world is protect our children and give them a structured, safe environment.

1:12:15And that's a big part of like understanding how you can protect your kids or your future children. And for a lot of us, both men and women, it starts even before we have children affecting exposures, like we talked about with personal care products or heavy metals, just overall becoming healthy so that we can become more fertile. and then once we have children, understanding how to create the environment that you asked me about at the beginning of the podcast, Lauren, to really protect them in the biggest way. I mean, what's more important than that? No, not to me. I mean, listen, like people are, there's a lot of, you know, anger out there right now.

1:12:46And I think that's also driven by people, in many cases, being unhealthy. Like when you're looking good and you're feeling good and you're healthy, like some of those negative thoughts and biases will go away because you don't want to go down that right when you feel great, right? mental health is this hot button issue it's a whole nother i mean we could do like we could keep going for another hour and talk about it but i i i think i completely agree with you i think mental health is inextricably linked to the quality of our our diet and the quality of our environment and if you eat crappy foods you are much less you are much more likely to be angry and irritable and experience mental health issues i mean i've seen it firsthand it's crazy i mean people with depression anxiety all sorts of issues get that gets better too not only people lose weight, become more fertile and happier, they also actually think better and feel better from a mental health standpoint when they improve their diet.

1:13:36The next time you're in Austin, how long are you here for? A week. Oh, I'm going to have my dad get you some of his elk pozole. Oh my God. He sells it at the farmer's market. I love it. It's so fucking amazing. We have it for dinner like all the time. I would love it. I'm going to have him get you some. I'll figure it out with you off air how to get you. Yeah. And you just heat it up. You can put some avocado on top with a little bit of like cabbage and some raw onion and lemon it's so good sounds amazing yeah you'll love it sounds amazing thank you i'll get you guys something they do it with bison and they do it i forgot to tell you to bring me the honey and a smoothie the honey and a smoothie yeah remember you made me a smoothie last time yeah you set the bar too high last time i know i want a paul salad you know smoothie that smoothie is so good you do the you did the protein powder.

1:14:24So the lineage protein powder, raw milk, honey. You can put in some heart and soil organs if you want. The lineage already has organs in it. Yeah. Heart and soil protein powder. Oh, the heart and soil organs, if you want to put that in. So. What do you mean the heart and soil organs? I haven't tried that. Oh, they have, we have capsules. So heart and soil makes. Oh, I do have those. Yeah. The her ones. So there's, yeah, heart and soil makes her package and whole package. And we make a bunch of different organs, but actually I should shout this out today. We just got into sprouts today. So I'm really proud of the team.

1:14:52They did a great job. So 450 locations of Sprouts across the country now has organs. Wow. You know, in capsules because a lot of us don't want to eat. So you just open the capsules and put it in? You can just open the capsules and put it in the smoothie, yeah. When you make towns a smoothie. Okay, you're amazing. Go follow Paul. I love following you. What's your Instagram? Pimp yourself out. It's just Paul Saladino MD everywhere. And yeah, I hope the content is helpful for people. It's been a humbling journey. Thank you guys for having me on again. It's always good to see you. You can come back in.

1:15:20If they're still skeptic, come back in six months. You'll be vindicated again. I will see. Lineage, nose to tail collagen. Thank you, guys. Thank you.