Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On Why So Many Americans Feel Sick, Tired, & Inflamed - And What Needs To Change

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31:38So we have only 4.2 % of the world's population, but we provide 70 % of the revenues, 70 % of the profits for the pharmaceutical industry. They charge us more than anybody else. A year ago, you could get the list price for Ozempic in this country was$1 ,350. $150, you could get the same product in any pharmacy in London for$88. Wow. And that's true across the board with all the brand drugs. You would pay two, three, four, five, even 15 times more for the same product in this country as you would in Europe. And, you know, this is something that every president has complained about at discrepancy.

32:24president clinton did president bush president obama president biden they all said we need to fix this nobody did anything and it was a high priority for president trump he called me almost every day he called dr oz almost every day and said where are you where are you it seemed insurmountable and but he said i will because he also didn't want to bankrupt the companies we had the leverage to force them, because we buy all these drugs on Medicaid and Medicare, to force them to lower their drug price, at least for those programs. But we didn't want to bankrupt the companies because we want the innovation to continue.

33:11It's the epicenter of innovation, U.S. pharmaceutical industry. He also wanted those drug companies to onshore their production because during COVID, it we saw how dangerous it was that all of our medication was coming from abroad because we were dependent on other countries because all the drugs were being produced in other countries and the api which is the you know the feedstock ingredients for the drugs still are being produced but now we were able to negotiate with and using the leverage of tariffs President Trump forced the European countries to raise their drug prices. And so they raised theirs a little, so we can lower ours a lot because there's a lot more Europeans than there are Americans.

34:00And because of that, the drug companies also agreed to onshore their production. So, you know, Eli Lilly is building six new plants here, including a huge one in Texas. Nova Nordisk is building, I think, more new plants in North Carolina. all over the country, Merck, Pfizer, they're all building, they're all on shoring. Now, the whole drug industry is now moving to the United States because of President Trump's leadership and because of the tariffs. And at the same time, we now have the lowest drug price in the world. We got guarantees from them that whatever the lowest price they're charging Europeans, we get that price or lower.

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35:06Michael Bosstick:So speaking of bankrupting, not wanting to bankrupt the companies, obviously a lot of people are paying attention right now to the farms and the things that we're spraying on our crops. And I know there was this recent announcement as it relates to glyphosate and pesticides. And you're not, from what I've seen, don't seem so happy with some of the decisions. But I would wonder if we know that these materials and these compounds are hurting us and harming us and causing problems, and we're aware that they're making us sicker, what's the long-term solution to protect Americans from these chemicals.

35:40Yeah, I mean, the problem, you know, the EO and executive order was a disappointment to me. What the executive order does, there's two things that are happening. One is an executive order that said we're going to onshore glyphosate production to this country and also the production of elemental phosphorus, which are both foundational to our current farm system. And the other is that the U.S. government intervened on behalf of the industry in a Supreme Court case that is debating whether or not there's federal preemption so that when the EPA label says it's safe, can plaintiffs in state court cases still bring cases against that?

36:31And it effectively gives immunity from liability in state court cases to these companies. That's something that is anathema to everything that I've stood for. I don't think that we should be giving any corporation immunity from liability. But President Trump is looking at an issue that is existential for American farming. American farmers are already in deep trouble. Now, for example, 98 % of the corn, or 97 % of the corn that we produce in this country uses glyphosate, 98 % of the soy. And if we didn't have glyphosate, if you banned it overnight, it would throw our entire food system into people and people would starve.

37:24I mean, it would literally be a catastrophe. It would be a cataclysm. According to the industry, the Chinese control 99 % of glyphosate production. And what President Trump said is that is, and the Pentagon reached out to him on this, that there's a huge national security vulnerability. They could actually starve us to death. And that is a vulnerability that we can't afford. And so he was responding to, you know, a serious real national security threat. President Trump, and then on the other hand, you have the company that's making glyphosate bear which is threatening because they've paid 11 billion dollars in a case that i brought and they have another 7.6 billion dollar settlement for some more cases and they have 65 000 more cases more coming every day they're threatening to leave the industry if they did that the industry again would collapse president trump is acting to forestall those eventualities.

38:26And he also understands that this is not a good long-term solution. This is a bridge solution until we can transition off of glyphosate. We have to do that in a way that is going to protect the farmers. Farmers are the most hardworking people in this country. They are critical to our, not only to our food, but to our culture, to the whole basis for American democracy came out of the pastoral areas in this country and the wilderness. And if we lose those rural areas in the country, you know, America is, we lose our food supply for one. And most farmers in this country are losing money seven out of 10 years, and there's no kids now moving onto farms.

39:15And so we've got to figure out a way to solve the farmer's problem them to not coerce them to offer them alternatives and there are a lot of really really compelling alternatives in the future and in fact i spoke to a bunch of farmers this week we're using a new technology it's a laser technology it's an attachment that they drag behind a tractor and it shoots lasers at all the weeds in every stage of their lives so even when they're invisible to the human eye, it can find them and kill them. And it's being widely used now in vegetable fields in this country, and it's very, very economical. In fact, they pay back the machine.

40:00The machine costs a million dollars. They pay back the machine. One of the farmers I talked to said she paid back the machine in nine months. And the reason for that is she's spending $1 ,500 a month on pesticides and on human labor. This woman owns the biggest onion fields in Texas. She has 8 ,000 acre onion field in South Texas. And she bought three of the machines. And she's spending, before she got those machines, she was spending$1 ,500 an acre on pesticides and labor, and now she spends$300. So she's saving over$1 ,000 an acre. That's one-fifth of a concert. And the onions are ready three weeks early, which is another huge deal for farmers.

40:54And her productivity per acre is up by 30%. So these kind of technologies and many, many other of these kind of technologies and also safer pesticides that are on the horizon. And we're now putting huge investments, President Trump's orders, into figuring out ways that we can get... He didn't create this problem, but he's dealing with a problem that other people created over the past 60 years, dealing in a way that protects our national security and at the same time allows us, gives an off-ramp to farmers who want to transition. Do you guys have fun working together? Yeah, I love working with the president.

41:38He's just enormously entertaining, and he has a brilliant mind. And I think he understands that he uses the power better than any other president, at least in my lifetime and probably in our history.

41:51Michael Bosstick:Well, I think what's apparent to everybody is that there's clear issues in this country in many areas. And what it's felt like as someone who's out of politics and who just watches from afar is it feels like it's kind of like, well, this is the way we've always done things. So we're just going to keep doing it this way. And as you're talking, it feels like a lot of what you are doing is trying to get us back on the right track. It's correcting a lot of those processes that maybe started not with ill intention, or maybe some did, but are clearly not working for us. Because we have real data to show that we're getting sicker and sicker.

42:25Michael Bosstick:Like some of the stats you rattled off in the beginning, we have three young children. It's alarming for parents, right? Like we're kind of on the cusp where we were born in that early period of the 90s and kind have matured but you know over the years you just you see things that we never saw as small children and yeah and it's scary well you know i grew up i had 11 siblings and around somewhere around 70 first cousins i never knew anybody with diabetes i never knew anybody with an autoimmune disease i never knew anybody with a food allergy i you know of all the thousands of people that i met I never knew anybody with autism and I was raised at the forefront of the movement for rights for people with intellectual disabilities my aunt unit Shriver my godmother started Special Olympics I worked in Special Olympics before it was Special Olympics when I was still Camp Shriver from when I was eight years old as a hugger and a coach every weekend and I never saw a kid with autism and i went to i worked in a state school for people with intellectual disabilities called wassaic home when i was in high school for 200 hours and i never saw anybody look like that and all of a sudden they're everywhere and people and you know many of the kids are high functioning but then there's about 30 of them have lives that are are really difficult what do you hope to instill in your own children when it comes to health and wellness?

43:59Well, my kids, I think, pay attention. I have one of my kids who's 23 years old is on the same diet that I am. And I don't try to force anything on them, but, you know, if they're eating something stupid, and I say, that's stupid. But, you know, I think they pay attention to their health. They're all athletes, and they all want to stay strong and stay healthy.

44:30Michael Bosstick:Speaking of your family and your extended family, what is it like to grow up in a family with that kind of name and legacy? Did you feel a pressure as a young man growing up? Did it feel normal? Did it feel different? I mean, to me, it's what I knew. So I didn't, you know, I wasn't thinking, oh, this is really unusual the whole time. I was like, okay, this is, you know, this is my life. And I was surrounded by a lot of love and, you know, really big family. Not only my family, but then, you know, 29 cousins. And we were all raised like almost a single family. because we're all lived right now, you know, in the same compound with each other.

45:17And, you know, it was really a magical, wonderful childhood. And there were tragedies, but there was also, you know, it's not like a kid in the ghetto who loses a parent to gunfire and then, you know, is left without any resources. We had resources and we were surrounded by people with love. So, you know, I don't, I never felt burdened. I felt like I was pretty lucky.

45:44Michael Bosstick:It was just what you knew. It was a normal childhood for you. Yeah. There's a lot of mothers listening. I'm a mother, and we want to know about the infant formula requirements. Why has that not been updated since 1998? For the same reasons. You know, the industry was powerful, and the agency was incompetent, was inept, wasn't doing its job. And we are, right now, we're doing a couple of things. One is we're doing, for the first time, we're looking at the ingredients of baby formula that are not listed. In other words, contaminants. PFASs, heavy metals, pesticides. We're looking at, you know, how much of those are in each formula.

46:33Those studies will be released in April. We started those studies a year ago. and then we're also doing the first update on the on the nutrition standards because we know a lot more about nutrition now about infant nutrition than we did in 1998 but the formulas as they are do not reflect that new knowledge and we know there's a lot of things that should be in there and there's probably some things that shouldn't be in there and so we're going to do a we're doing a complete review of those and we'll soon come out with new guidance. It seems like that would be the first place to start because it's almost the foundation of the child's life.

47:12That's so crazy that as an infant, they're exposed to heavy metals and pesticides and they don't even know it. Yeah, I mean, the safest thing, people who can do it should breastfeed. Best thing that you can do for your infant, a lot of women can't do that for one reason or another. and those women should have access to safe formula and that's, of course, is the most important. Their brain is growing at that time, their body is growing at that time and their brain is absorbing contaminants at a rate that it will never do again because it's building itself. And so you don't want those kind of contaminants to be part of the building blocks of babies' brains.

47:59Michael Bosstick:And we talk on this show about a lot of kind of niche health topics all the time. And sometimes, dare I say, we get labeled woo-woo by maybe publications that are not as nice to us. But I heard you talking one time about EMFs. And a lot of people are kind of like, oh, is this real? Is it not real? Are these waves causing us harm? From your perspective, is this a real thing? And do we have to be aware of EMFs and Wi-Fi? and yeah I mean the the studies on that are overwhelming well in fact you know I was the attorney in litigation in front of the Court of Appeals in Washington DC on this issue and the court agreed with our position we gave over 10 ,000 studies to the court and the court ordered FCC to redo its guidelines.

48:55And so right now we're working on studies on, you know, to make recommendations for what they should be, but we have the worst guideline. The guidelines that we have are based upon thermal effect, which means they don't kick in until the phone literally begins to raise the temperature inside of your brain or your body. So it's microwaving you. But before that long before that happens it is affecting dna it is affecting the it's making pervious your blood brain barrier it causes all kinds of effects in fact there's studies by a guy called george carlo who was who was hired by the industry actually to defend cell phones and George Carlo produced all of these studies that show that kids who, children who use cell phones for even 10 minutes, their brain, their EEGs don't return to normal for at least 12 hours.

50:01I mean, it's frightening when you start reading it. What I tell parents is don't ever let, and what I do with my kids is I say, I don't let them put the cell phone next to their head ever. put it on speaker or, you know.

50:16Michael Bosstick:What about like wired headphones? Not the Bluetooth, but the wired. I'm not sure how good those are. It's better than holding the cell phone next to your head. And what about the little Bluetooth earphones? None of those either. So I don't know if those also transmitted. I think that there's... But the cell phone to the head is the thing. But you should not put your cell phone next to your head. You should also give them a break from the cell phone or 12 hours. So if it's for eight or nine hours a day, particularly when you sleep, your kids should not be sleeping on the cell phone next to their head, which they all do.

50:49I'm so happy that you said this because there's a debate in our house right now. He wants to plug the cell phone in in the room.

50:56Michael Bosstick:But across the room. It doesn't matter. I don't want it in the room. I want it out of the room. And so what I've been doing is every night I wake up while he's sleeping and I unplug it. What's that company? We just bought an actual, like an old... Ashley, you're a good mom. See? up. No, she's a great mom. We bought recently one of those old analog clocks that's just like an old basic clock. Kids don't know what it is. Yeah, exactly. And it just has a basic alarm. So yeah, I mean, this, Paul Saladino was recently talking about this, I think it was the San Francisco Giants and their stadiums right next to some big cell plant or something, and they said, he basically pulled this correlation where they have by average the most injuries of any NFL team statistically.

51:35Michael Bosstick:and he was like, listen, maybe it's not directly from that, but it's the breakdown of the mitochondria of the cells. And so they're more susceptible to it. That's interesting. What's your most controversial take? What do people get so mad at that you don't even understand why they get so mad? Oh, I wouldn't even say because people are angry all the time at almost everything that I do. and you know i think most of the things that people are angry about are things that i never actually said or positions that i never took i don't you know as soon as anything i say gets out in the media it's it's distorted and that's just part of you know the job it's part of my life for the last 20 years there's there's almost nothing i do that is not regarded as controversial Sean?

52:27Well, I think what we appreciate with you is, and now that we're meeting you in person,

52:34Michael Bosstick:it's kind of like what you see is what you get. You're plain spoken. You have real answers. You obviously have the knowledge. And there's clearly an issue going on when it comes to our health in this country. And so, you know, I really have, and I've been vocal about this. I really think this is a bipartisan issue that everybody should be excited about, which is like cleaning up the health and the healthcare in this country, right? It affects everybody. It affects future generations. I cared about this immensely prior to having children, but now that we have three children, I care about it even more.

53:01Michael Bosstick:And I think, you know, there's a lot of parents out there that are seeing what's going on with sicknesses and illness with their kids. And they, you know, they're frankly frustrated and fed up. And we look to our governor officials that we elect to fix this for us, right? Because we want our kids to live the healthiest, best life possible. And I think that that should just be an issue everybody cares about. Yeah, one would think. Like you said, it shouldn't be a partisan issue. Also, there's no such thing as Republican children or Democratic children, but people may get partisan. I mean, we have SNAP waivers now.

53:37We've asked all the states to file them, and there's 25 states that have filed them, and those are waivers where the state requests from the government to allow it to ban certain foods from being purchased with food stamp money. And so about 18 % of food stamp money is used on sodas, 10 % on sodas. Sugar sodas was the worst thing you can do to a kid. Candy, potato chips, and junk food. And so the states can apply to say we're not going to pay for those anymore. If you want to drink a soda, you should be able to. We live in the United States. It's freedom of choice. But the federal taxpayer should not be paying for it because we're paying 63 million kids who are the poorest kids who get food stamps.

54:33And those kids then drink that Coke, they get diabetes, and 78 % of them end up on Medicaid. So we're paying to make them sick, and then we're paying for their lifetime treatment. and it's not a good system. But when we requested for the states to file SNAP waivers, the red states all did it, almost all did it. Only two blue states did it because they see it as a Trump program. And what I'm saying to them, this has nothing to do with Donald Trump. It's just your kids. You got to love your kids more than you hate Donald Trump. You've got to be able to distinguish between, you know, things that are good for you and just make sense, common sense, and, you know, and remove that from your hatred of Donald Trump.

55:25Michael Bosstick:One thing that we were talking about in preparation for this show with the team is we wonder about this dynamic, whether it's, you know, Trump, Biden, blue, red. behind the scenes when you guys are in closed door sessions with you know democrats republicans together is it cordial are you guys getting along and trying to solve this or is it like hey we just we're all on one side and we just got it's it's got to be this way all the time i think from the outside and if you pay attention to the media a lot of americans just feel like you guys are at each other's throats all the time and i wonder if it's actually really like that I mean, with me, it's not even congenial in private with most of them.

56:09I mean, a couple of them it is. But I was friends with all of these guys for my whole life. I've known Bernie Sanders for 40 years. You were a Democrat for a long time. Yeah, for my whole life. Yeah. So I think they are probably for that reason, they're particularly vitriolic against me. It's like you switch teams. Yeah. I mean, most of these people were my friends. Yeah, it's not the kind of congeniality that you would hope for.

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1:03:17It's all been elevated just for you. So the ritual, the Lauren ritual is you do cold therapy to help fight inflammation. You roll it, you glide it across your face. I put it on my jawline, my neck, I roll it down. Your skin is just going to appear smoother and tighter before you go in for the kill with the skincare and the makeup. Don't skip the cold therapy. The new ice roller is an upgrade designed to meet the standards of today. And I hope you guys love it as much as I do. This is the beauty tool that started it all redesigned to evolve with you. I'm showing it on YouTube too. If you're on YouTube, if you're seeing me visually, get it while it's hot at shop skinny confidential.com.

1:03:57That's shop skinny confidential.com. Is there anything that changed when you stepped inside the government for you? Anything you changed your thinking on? Well, I mean, I think the big shock to me was how crooked it was inside, inefficient, the agency. The agency was not doing its job at all. I mean, it's the biggest agency in the history of any government, any time in the history of the human race. And it's the biggest agency in our government. If you look at just It's the money we spend. It's the number six economy in the world. It's 20 % of the United States economy, and it's the biggest economy in the world, six biggest economy in the world.

1:04:42So they got all this money. We have the worst health of any population. Their job is to make us healthy. And nobody was feeling accountability for that. It was, and then there was just huge amounts of fraud that were, you know, I mean, we're getting, we're allowing$100 billion a year to be stolen from Medicaid and Medicare alone. $100 billion at least. Why is that not more widely reported on? Well, I mean, I don't think that the mainstream media reports on anything that is really relevant to what's important, what's happening, and particularly if it's something that is going to make Democrats look bad.

1:05:30And I'm not a partisan person, but one of the things that I found out from people in my agency was they were ordered by the Biden White House not to do program integrity. In other words, not to enforce against fraud. And they said they were told we want to focus on only enrollment and getting more and more people into the system.

1:05:55Michael Bosstick:So wait, if they caught somebody doing fraud, the mandate was don't prosecute them. Yeah, even the fraudulent claims that came in that they knew were fraudulent, they were paid. But wouldn't that system incentivize more people to commit fraud? Of course it does. And these entire industries have grown up now. I mean, I'll give you an example. And they're run a lot of times by other nations. For example, in a red state, Florida, there is a giant industry for durable medical equipment. And so wheelchairs and knee braces and that kind of thing. And there's more durable medical equipment companies in Florida than the whole nation combined.

1:06:37And, but, and none of them are actually making anything. In fact, we found a hotel that had like 129 rooms and each one of them was a different medical durable medical equipment company. And they steal the patient ID for Americans. and then they claim that they've sold them a wheelchair or a knee brace and they're making$5 million a month.

1:07:03Michael Bosstick:They just take the money and don't produce anything? They take the money and send it to Cuba. And that's tax money. Yeah, it's all our money from my programs. And it's easy to spot. Anybody could spot it, but they just weren't doing it. And the same thing is true. I mean, I can give you hundreds of examples, but in Los Angeles, there's more hospice companies than the entire nation combined. They're mainly operated by Russian mobsters, and they claim to be taking care of people who are dying and charging the federal government in their homes. So it's home care, so they're providing nurses to somebody who is dying in their own home, and it's all fraudulent.

1:07:48But you know what the mortality rate is for these Russian hospices in Los Angeles? They have a 100 % survival rate. Nobody ever dies. So they're in a hospice. They're just billed eternally. And the people don't actually exist. They're just patient IDs that they've stolen. The same was true with the Somali mob in Minnesota, which, you know, they, it used to be that like 30 years ago, Medicaid and Medicare paid if you got a medical procedure. So if you had a hernia operation, you, we would pay for it, for the hospital, the doctors, the nurses, the material. We could tell what we were paying for because you had a scar on you, you had a licensed nurse, licensed doctors, and they went through the process.

1:08:44then we started paying for patient support and for elderly support so if you are somebody who has some kind of disability including just old age and your family would normally buy you groceries now we pay your family to buy you groceries we pay somebody to take you to your hospital business we pay somebody to balance your checkbook well that is just an enormous opportunity for fraud and we pay people to take care of children with autism so if you have six family members the mob would come to you and say we'll get a doctor to say that each one of those has autism and then we will pay people we'll get people and pay them to take care of them but the care is not actually happening.

1:09:40Nobody actually shows up. We're getting billed for it. And that money was going back to Somalia and to Boko Haram and other terrorist groups, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. We were expecting the autism rate, you know, the autism care program in Minneapolis should have cost us about$3 million a year. It was costing us$400 million a year. That was all stolen money. Today, the number one job in New York is home care. So it's people doing things that a family member would normally do. I, you know, drive the grandmother around, buy her groceries, et cetera. Now they can charge the federal government for it.

1:10:24And, you know, it was well-intentioned because people said, if we, you know, this, the grandma keeps going back to the emergency room every time she gets a little sick or she gets hungry or whatever. And if we had somebody taking care of her at home, she wouldn't go to the emergency room and we'll save money. So they made that system, it's called a waiver system, with the good intentions that it would be good to take care of people in their own homes instead of send them to the hospital. But what happened is it was immediately abused. So now, like I say, the number one job in New York of all the jobs in New York, of all the industries that that state has, the number one occupation is home care.

1:11:11And they're doing things that a family member used to do.

1:11:15Michael Bosstick:What's frustrating about this is if anybody starts to, it sounds like if people start to work on this problem, immediately people can say, hey, you're taking care away from the sick, which is like it's like no we got a route opposite of that we're making sure that the people who actually these programs were designed to have the money because when you take that money away from it comes from somebody else and the programs are you know are you know we need the money for the people who are needy really deserve it yeah i have to ask you sorry to switch gears but about your wife your wife was on the show what are the wellness practices that you guys do together a big switch we are really we couldn't be more different which i think is one of the reasons we we get along but she does yoga she does pilates and she's basically a vegetarian kind of a pescatarian and so you know we have to meet cook different meals there's nothing that she likes to eat that i want to eat and vice versa that sounds like marriage yeah i gotta ask you about the jeans the jeans cold plunging the jeans working out this is like become a brand what's going on with the jeans well originally i cold plunging wrong do i need to be wearing jeans please don't originally i you know i would go i would just had a busy schedule always so i would hiking with my dogs in the morning and then i would go straight to the gym in my jeans and you know it was just a convenience to work out and then when i was campaigning a couple of people took pictures of me in the gym wearing jeans and then i don't know i then i just got in too deep you are in pretty deep now so yeah and you know when we did it i did that with kid rock i did it kind of as a gag but it worked i mean you know i it's the video went nuts that video and not so and it's what we wanted to happen is that people you know get inspired to work out so in whatever whatever clothing they want but who's better at cold plunging you or kid rock i'm sure he is i don't have a cold plunge in my house he's got it he's better it's not a skill that i think you actually develop it's just like okay i'm gonna do this i'm pretty gnarly i I could come in jeans.

1:13:45I'm pretty good at cold plunging, Bobby. How long do you stay in there? I could stay in there for four minutes. She can stay on a long time. But I could do three sets of four. So I could do four, sauna, four, sauna, four.

1:13:56Michael Bosstick:Women have higher pain tolerances. I'm a glutton for punishment with that. Look, can we talk real quick about some cutting edge health practices? We have a lot of people that come on and they talk about peptides, they talk about hormones. Where do you see this space going from a regulatory perspective? I think there's a lot of people getting interested in GLPs and hormone replacement. but there's a lot of hesitation because people don't know if it's efficacious, if it's safe, who to trust, who not to trust. And I guess from the seat that you sit in, what would you tell people? Well, I mean, with the GLPs, now the companies are producing.

1:14:27There was a shortage of GLPs for a while. And so you had the compounding pharmacies make it because they could legally make it during the shortage. Now there's no shortage. And not only that, but the price has now dropped dramatically. and so the i i think you're going to not see and we're also now enforcing against the compounders who are doing mass marketing which they're not legally allowed to do anyway the compounders are supposed to be for doctors who prescribe an individual patient a unique formulation of that particular molecule that specific patient yeah that they that the patient can't get off the shelf because their shelf it'll make it in 50 milligrams or 10 milligrams.

1:15:12And let's say you need 30 milligrams. The compounder will make it like that. And if you have certain allergies, he'll make it with a twist so that that, you know, it doesn't provoke an allergic reaction. So I think GLPs people are going to be getting from the manufacturers. That's the safest thing because the API plants that actually make the components of that GLP are inspected by the FDA. They're mainly in China or India. We inspect them with peptides. That market was thrown into chaos because the Biden administration illegally moved 19 peptides to category two, and category two says do not formulate.

1:15:59Is that like a BPC-157, all those things? Yeah, those were moved. And so you had ethical compounders who were buying legal API from FDA-inspected plants. We shut them all down, and we created a black market where people are selling, supposedly selling peptides for research purposes and for animal purposes, but they're marketing to be humans through influencers. and that's illegal. You can't do that. And so, but we have created this multi-billion dollar black market and what I'm working on now is trying to move those so that they will be available to the public and they'll be available from, you know, through ethical Safeway.

1:16:50Compounders who are buying them from FDA inspected plants.

1:16:54Michael Bosstick:So if people right now have maybe seen, especially like for the audience, if they've seen maybe these influencers or people talking about this, and they're worried about, what would you tell those people to be cautious about right now while you guys are transitioning? Well, if you're buying the peptides from a research-grade peptide or an animal peptide, you have no idea what you're getting because the plant is definitely not inspected. And we've looked at some of them, and they're not what they say they are. Okay. So you have no idea what you're getting. With everything you guys are handling right now, what criticism do you think has been fair?

1:17:29Michael Bosstick:as it relates to what you guys are working on, if any? I think we've done a good job. I don't think, I think most of the criticism is, again, about stuff that we didn't do or it's, you know, it's a lot of noise. I mean, you know, I would love to talk to somebody who is, you know, who wants to criticize me about some position that I supposedly have because I think most of the time they go away saying, oh, okay, well, this makes a lot of sense. Well, I will say you come prepared, so I think a lot of people are nervous about that debate. Was Terry Black's barbecue good yesterday? Well, I went three days in a row, so I guess it was good.

1:18:14Oh, my God, I got to tell my parents to go three days in a row. Yeah, it's pretty good. Okay. What's your order? We got a selection of, you know, the ribs and the brisket,

1:18:25Michael Bosstick:the whole nine yards. Last question. When you look back on what you're trying to accomplish here years from now, what are you hoping that you accomplish? What do you want the big takeaway to be? And what do you want the Maha movement to have? I mean, my objective for 20 years has been to end the chronic disease epidemic. And I think we're going to make a dent in it in the next three years. A big dent. Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr., thank you for doing this. You're great. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. Thank you very much.