Sarah Shahi On Reinventing Yourself, Building Self-Worth, & Thriving Through Life's Biggest Changes

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42:10because I think from the time that we're kids, we're taught to run away from our pain, right? It's like you fall and you scrape your knee. Your mom instantly wants to give you a double scoop ice cream comb. You put a Band-Aid on it, kiss it, make it better, stop crying. But as adults, that's not how pain works. Like pain is a teacher. And I think I finally, there's an incredible spiritual teacher named Reverend Michael Beckwith. And I had the privilege of doing his podcast not too long ago. And we took a real spiritual look at Life is Lifey, like a spiritual look at blowjobs, if you can believe it or not.

42:41And he has this great quote that says, pain persists until the vision pulls. And I'll never forget the moment that I made a decision that I was going to leave my marriage. And it was when I finally sat with my pain. I finally, instead of trying to drink it away or numb it away or brush it under the rug or pretend, you know, I finally was like, I couldn't, I couldn't escape it anymore. And I finally sat with it and I'm like, where, where are you? Like, where does it hurt? And it like, it hurt in my heart. It hurt in my throat. Cause I hadn't spoken up for myself. You know, my heart felt like it had this like black hole in it where there should have been love.

43:23There was emptiness. And I'm like, what is happening to me? And that's when I saw the vision of myself in the future, whose dreams mattered, who, you know, did live life with a smile, who was advocating for herself, you know, who could take a class or a night out with girlfriends and not feel bad about it. You know, so it was like pain persists until the vision pulls, but you really do have to sit with your pain. You have to allow it to teach you something. Because I also believe, sorry to talk so much. No, it's podcast. That's why you're here. Okay. But I also believe that like, you know I'm very spiritual so I choose to look at life from a spiritual perspective and I believe that every circumstance that we draw to us is for our highest good so if we don't take a moment to reflect and to see like what did I learn you're missing the entire reason why it happened you're missing that opportunity for growth and that's what we are here for at the end of the day we're all here just to walk each other home right so it's like what a blessing to be able to learn and to grow and to pass that along to somebody else.

44:29Were you able to apply this to the relationship you had after your marriage? Because it seems like, yeah, it seems like that also was a big moment for you. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So, yeah, we started sex life. Let's see. We started sex life. COVID happened. My divorce happened. Six months later, the world opened back up and then we began filming we only filmed for like a week before covid happened and we all got rushed back to our home so um yeah no it was it was interesting and and i did i there were a lot of lessons that i learned from my marriage and also just the healing process of divorce is really intense you know there's a lot of stuff that come up for you when you when you get a divorce right even simple things like what do you do with the ring where do the pictures go like again no one gets married planning their divorce so these were all things that i had to sort of learn about in real time um yeah like where do the family pictures go where yeah and you know where they are they're in an album in the garage when my kids get older like they'll they'll have that and and and the other thing that i think is really important and i'm lucky that my ex and I have a great relationship is that kids want to know they came from love.

45:54That's it. They just want to know they came from love. So even if you and I did not get along in this dynamic, let's find a different dynamic where we can get along in and we can, you know, have love for one another because the kids need to see that. And it's really beautiful that they do like I feel very lucky in that respect um yeah because I know plenty who you know that's not the case but um but yeah I can't remember what the question was I was just saying like when you have your set your first relationship yeah yeah yeah oh yeah yeah yeah that's a moment I think it's a moment for anyone who's listening your first relationship after a divorce yeah whether you stay together or you don't yeah yeah yeah it's a moment for sure and I think you know honesty honesty communication I mean these are things that people talk about but I think when you're first learning to be vulnerable again after being hurt or not that somebody hurt me but I was hurting I was hurting from the divorce I think it's important to let the other person know that that's the space that you're in that you like this that this feels really good but at the same time you're still processing things and to allow yourself to breathe and to take the time that you need to heal so you can be really present you know i think so so communication um is a big thing um and again i have kids you know so it's like for me i'm not able to date as this truly single person you know i have three incredible things i come with and to be honest about what that looks like you know and like you're reading between the lines right exactly like yeah like you have to be honest about what your priorities are I also think when you date someone that does and this is like this is what I would imagine when you date someone that doesn't have children and they have no understanding or capacity for children it's a learning curve it's it's it's I actually have empathy for it because maybe four children would not have understood that I would have been like what yeah for sure then when you have children it's just a different life experience absolutely and so it's almost like mismatched sometimes so if you date you prefer to have somebody that has children or that it does not let's manifest who you're going to date next does this guy have kids the next oh i thought you were talking to somebody i was like no what are they saying oh maybe someone like if you're if you're no no no but here's here's what i will say they they don't have to have kids because i've heard a lot of stories from my girlfriends who were married it ended up marrying people who did not have kids, but they wanted kids or they were raised with a lot of kids.

48:36So that's, so I'm not going to say the person has to have kids because that in itself could bring things that could be an issue. Like, I don't know. And I don't care, but I do want the person to have a lot of siblings and like have a lot of experience with kids. No only child. Correct. Yeah. Got it. Not doing the only child thing. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Are you an only child? No. Okay. blowjobs oh let's go transition what a transition you have a whole chapter about blowjobs whether you're getting them or giving them you want them to be good right come on give me a little credit on the mic right now no no we've been married we've been married a long time i i don't mean to toot my own horn i might say it's the top three things i can do yes yes yes yes amazing that's what you meant when you said she doesn't cook but she does other things really well listen i i will take that over the cooking any day here's one tip i think you have if you're i can order out and then go to a restaurant if you're a blowjob connoisseur i feel like you have to like doing it 100 that's kind of one tip that i would give yeah tip if you don't like giving sorry okay i apologize we're just meeting but this is actually a more mild version of this show so don't even is it really oh great we're fine um so what are your blowjob tips if there's girls who are listening you went to a class spit on it choke on it yeah yeah choke on it down my throat yeah are you okay he's drinking water for the first time no i i look i again i'm very it's interesting because when i was writing this book and i uh you know we just met but as you can tell i'm very real and not shy.

50:22But I do like to come from the perspective of not being gratuitous or not saying something to cause a reaction, but from a place of like realness. And the other thing that happened when I was on Sex Life, so many women wrote into me and they were like, I've never had an orgasm before, or I don't know how to give a blowjob. Like I'm nervous. So I, my perspective, though it is funny to talk about and shocking to talk about, my perspective truly is to help. When I first moved to L.A., I didn't know how to give head. I didn't even know what head was. I didn't even know what a dick looked like, okay?

50:54Like, I lost my virginity very late, and I had met somebody in L.A., and I'm talking about, he's a B-plus movie star. He's not any kind of star these days, and I got the sense that he wanted a lot more than dry humping, and so I was like, all right, I need to learn about the penis. so there was a show on HBO called Real Sex oh yeah I remember that show okay okay did you beat it to Real Sex listen back in the day people forget but you'd have to like skim the channels you know this was like pre-porn alright Taylor it was like pre-porn no no porn has been around forever but it was hard to find when you were a kid you couldn't you didn't have I used to find it in the bushes like some magazine somebody left or some weird VHS tape from like the 80s oh I see so you go on Real Sex we didn't have what these kids have these days That's true.

51:45Right. Right. We didn't have the internet. No. The World Wide Web. Some guy would like www. find you like a magazine that he found somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some dumpster somewhere. And the pages are ripped and you have to put the pages back together. Exactly. So there is a show called Real Sex and there was a woman who was the host of the show named Lou Piguet who was actually an older woman but she was incredibly knowledgeable and she was holding a seminar for blowjobs on Beverly Drive. so I came across this I don't know how but I did and I was like let me sign up so I entered this class I'm there are I don't know six women six to eight women in attendance I'm the youngest one at the time and she we each got a plate like fine china and we could pick our own dildos she went around the room there were different colors sizes what was your vibe mine was a respectable six and a half inch, which I've learned is, um, is, uh, what have you learned?

52:44Tell me what you've learned about that. What have you learned? Respectable. What have you learned? Go ahead. I can't wait to hear what it's about to come out of your mouth. What have, what have you learned about six and a half inches? Well, I learned that that was average. I learned that that was like, that, that was out. Cause I was like, is this too big? Is it too small? Like what? I don't know what I'm doing. And yeah, it was like, it's just right. And some people wanted bigger. Some people wanted smaller, like different colors, you know, whatever. So anyway, um, and she taught us, she was like, okay, ladies, these penises aren't going to ejaculate themselves.

53:15Let's get going. And she like everything from opening up the back of your throat to your gag reflex to different hand and mouth techniques. Um, she had something called the ode to Brian, which was based off of this, um, uh, high, a college sweet heart. She had named Brian who liked who liked the sensation like a certain way so she did this double cupping thing and i know what the ode to brian what happened to this woman she was like the she's like the god can we get her on the show i don't know if she's alive like i don't know if she's alive and she was out there doing god's work and then when she was like 80 so it's like i don't know god bless her though god bless lou um so yeah so i but i became so confident because she also broke the penis down in a very biological way and like talked about the nerve endings and the head and the shaft and like what you do and the balls and like and I was like oh and something in me clicked like something in me went oh my god I get it now like this isn't something dirty this is actually something awesome and like if you really love your partner you love like the guy you're like super into the guy you can actually take your partner to such a place of ecstasy that you feel like your own inner like christy canyon like just came out why i like it no one's ever articulated it yeah it's not about him it's about me exactly exactly so i don't know how i would i'm gonna be i have a lot of if i say if i'm into a guy and like or like my partners and i give them head and they're like oh my god that felt so good i'm like no that felt so good it's like thank you absolutely yeah it's it's my pleasure to do that it's my pleasure perspective when i again a lot of potholes here i gotta be careful yeah but i i feel probably stepped into so many from the beginning of this podcast when i hear some of my friends their girl or some of my friends that have i gotta be okay stop stuttering just go they some of it look at like it's like a demeaning thing some some girls look at it as demeaning like they feel it's demeaning i know i know they do disrespectful and i think they've got the wrong perspective you said it not me yeah no i really truly do think they've got the wrong perspective they should no they gotta get the book they gotta get the book or like give them my handle like have them reach out to me like when i've heard people say they don't do it in relationships it's like i'm not going to be disrespected i don't think there's anything oh my god are you kidding me we did an episode one time where there was we had some we had some women on the show we were talking about this and i said imagine if a guy was like i will not go down on you i'm just like oh i'm not doing that yeah you'd be like why not like what's wrong with it like why not you know like no i i agree i i feel really lucky that i stepped into that classroom and i got the knowledge that i did because she broke everything down in this anatomical way that like my fucking scientific nerdy brain was really able to latch on to and then from there i was able to you know activate the sexy porn star whatever you want to call it like i'm so goddamn confident i could deep throat a cactus you know what i mean so it's like i i'm i hope my mom doesn't listen to this and so my mom doesn't listen to this i hope none of our parents listen to this like jesus lauren's dad's for sure listening to this oh my god i also like it because sometimes i like to do this thing where i'll like be really ugly like and wear no hair and makeup and just oh you're so stunning without it like a long time and then i'll dress up and I'll be like, don't forget it.

56:41I think the blowjob is the same essence. It's like, I like to give one and be like, don't forget who you married. It's almost like a level set. Like, don't forget. I love it. I love it. Don't fucking forget. And you never forget. Afterwards you go, how long have y 'all been married? We've been married a long time. How long? How long? He was my first blowjob. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one website platform designed to help you stand out and succeed online, whether you're just starting out or scaling your business. Squarespace gives you everything you need to claim your domain, showcase your offerings with a professional website, grow your brand, and get paid all in one place.

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1:04:02Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. Amen. You mentioned earlier that you used to drink alcohol and now you do not drink. Yeah. Is that a choice? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just didn't metabolize it the same way. And I really held on. I really held on to wanting to drink. You know, again, I'm from Texas. Like I drink guys under the table. Like I, I would have a night out where I would drink and then show, you know, I would have 12 drinks, show up the next morning at seven o 'clock in the morning, ready to go working a 14, 15 hour day. and then it got to a point where and by the way I'm not sober so I don't want to say that I'll probably have like I don't know three drinks a year so it's not very much but I'm not sober um um but it was a choice only because my body just didn't metabolize it the same way I would wake up even if I had one and I played around with it like I would have a drink at 10 in the morning like I'd be like let me drink at 10 is that gonna make a difference it probably actually is better for you in the day i still i still woke up the next day feeling like shit and it just took a while to get out of my system so i'm just like you know what unless it's like truly unless i'm really inspired to have a drink i'm not going to it's an age thing the older i get the less i like to i think it just like catches up with you i just like my sleep yeah i just like my sleep and i like feeling fresh the next day i was waking up with no matter how little i i i drank i was still waking up the next day feeling dull and i didn't like that feeling anymore i'm like this ain't worth it yep juice ain't worth the squeeze before you go you got to give us some of your beauty going already yeah damn this went by how y 'all are we normally do 45 minutes i am really we have we went longer with you time flies i mean it's a big one literally um before you go you have to tell us about your beauty tips because what i noticed about you is you do natural hair which is about to be very very popular oh yeah and you're very not like people are not going to be doing their hair like i like how your hair is just like natural yeah i don't know how to do my hair which is why i don't do it i don't either someone did this i mean that's the thing it's like unless somebody is my hair i don't know doing my hair yeah yeah i literally walked into the sex life audition this is a funny audition story but the casting director was like do you own a brush and i was like no i like it though i think it's very like sexy and like you're just very fresh-faced and beautiful.

1:06:21What are some beauty tips that you do? I'm big on lasers. Yeah, I have been very vocal about my laser game. And I have a few skincare specialists, like laser specialists that I see regularly. What's the laser that you like? Well, so I have this Korean acupuncturist and facialist. Her name is Dr. Ellie. I'm happy to put her stuff out there. But she kind of invented that salmon sperm facial like over 10 years ago that kim kardashian did for the first like that's his own one yes she like invented that it's my favorite so she gets all the lasers from korea i don't exactly know what these lasers are called but like it's the korean version of morpheus the korean version of ulthera the korean version of all of that stuff which goes a little bit deeper and there's less downtime so i go to her for facial acupuncture and for the lasers and other acupuncture um i go to her once or twice a month depending on my schedule then there's another woman named cynthia franco who just does like the electro mag like with the electro wands you know what i'm talking about the wands i gotta try it no okay cynthia franco yeah yeah i'll give you her stuff too and um she i also probably go to once or twice uh a month and she just does all the stimulating things like she literally will take my cheekbones and push them up like it's crazy um and then yeah was there a third hold on I'm trying to think if there's a third those two are the regular okay those two are the regular and then um I'm just really big on um just moisturizing I don't know like I'm moisturizing like three four times a day what's the moisturizer that you're using it's the Walida heavy cream okay yeah I had and I don't like wearing a lot of makeup like to me I don't know I don't know if it goes back to again just efficiency or whatever but like I I like I don't know I I feel like sometimes when people put too much makeup on you don't see them you know what I mean and I like it when I can see someone's skin or someone's freckles or I like that you know so I think it's very youthful too yeah yeah yeah yeah you know yeah sometimes when I have too much makeup on I feel like I look older than yeah yeah me too like like sometimes if I get ready for an event and the makeup artist is like overly powdering me or just like wants to put lip liner and lipstick and like this whole thing.

1:08:41I'm like, I feel like I'm 60 years old right now. And I don't like that. I also have a theory. Okay. I think when you are in the public eye and you are constantly being touched by hair and makeup and brows and listen, I do this all. Yeah. You and I live in Austin, so I'm able to shut it off. Yeah. I come here and I say I treat it like my mistress. I suck it. I fuck it. And then I get the fuck out and i go to austin and i just like literally there's no makeup there's no hair unless it's for like a podcast yeah yeah yeah you get almost over touched but also like it's people in your space constantly yes so with what you're doing where you're getting the prosthetic and yeah you're being pulled like a car wash you're right you're off you just want to you know what i'm so glad you brought that up because i just mentioned this to somebody the other day how like and this person it was my sister's baby shower and and my soon-to-be sister-in-law no they got married so she is my yeah my brother-in-law's sister so we were at my sister's baby shower and she looked beautiful and she was dolled up and she got her hair and makeup done and I came pretty much like this and you know I was like oh my god Jess you look so beautiful and she was like you know thank you I never get dolled up and I was like I always get dolled up Like that's what I do.

1:09:56So when I don't have to, it's like I just want the bare minimum if that, you know? Yeah. Britney Spears, I heard like when she was performing towards her last couple performances that she did in Vegas, like she got to the point where it was like too many people touching her all the time. Yeah. And you can imagine being her since she was a little girl. The hair, the brows, the makeup, the facial, the spray tan. I'm really rooting for her. We're all rooting for her. I'm really rooting for her. I really do. But you can imagine how much energy it is in your space. And you get someone with the wrong energy doing.

1:10:29I know. And I've had that. And I've had to let people go because energetically, I'm like, this is kind of bringing me down. It's bringing the whole vibe of the thing down. And no, it's an important job. And yeah, no, I agree. You're amazing. You're amazing. You guys are amazing. You guys go buy her book. Yeah, I told you it was going to be fun. I knew this one was going to be fun. Did you not believe her? No, I knew. He did. Okay, okay. Okay, you knew. you know taylor did you your media i didn't even get to talk to you about the sopranos did taylor exactly oh the sopranos hold on hold on yeah my celebrity crush yeah oh is it ganolfini you like him a little thick i like a little no i like him a little like like mobstery yeah yeah i get a little bit like i get it i don't know what's gonna happen yeah i know i'm the same it's a problem god damn it i want the i need to pivot that yeah sopranos is my favorite show I don't know you have to tell me yeah I was in the final season I remember the peyote scene yep yep and the Vegas girl the final scene what final episode okay sorry not episode final season it was the sixth episode okay the episode was called the Heidi and Kennedy Kennedy and it was the episode Chris dies okay and Tony goes to Vegas to tell the girl that he was like messing with that Christopher died and I was the girl I was like a Vegas like showgirl college student.

1:11:51Did you get to make out with him? Yes, we had a full on sex scene. You don't remember this? Now I remember because he's on a sex scene. I remember that. I was on top of him and then we went to the desert and like smoked peyote. Okay, okay, it's coming back. He was like sitting out there. I might have to re-watch The Sopranos. We've watched it like three times. The whole series. He's incredible. He was incredible. You know, he was a very troubled man and but the crew loved him. we shot that episode it took like he used to take he took care of the crew right didn't he like pay yeah yeah he he treated them really well you know he had a lot of demons and they sometimes interrupted filming um but he made it up to them and uh yeah he was an incredible man i'm very lucky so so there's a story i told on kimmel recently where so the first day that i showed up to work he did not show up and um i went back to my hotel room and he sent me a dozen roses with a note saying like sorry about today don't be nervous because i suck love the fat man and the next day i showed up to set and he's literally larger than life like he's so tall his shoulders are so broad like he looks like he's like a bear like a grizzly time especially that season was like the biggest thing ever oh ever yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so he walks in through the like i see him larger than life presence and he's like you get the flowers and me thinking you know i'm a badass and trying to keep up with this energy i was like yeah what's with that like next time send me something i can actually take back with me like jimmy choo size seven and again i was just trying to match his energy i didn't expect it i go back to my hotel room and there's jimmy chu size seven what a fucking boss i know what a boss boss yeah god bless him yeah sex scene with tony soprano you know it's yeah i did a sex scene with tony soprano that's a good that's a good one to like one of the best i have to say like kisses i've ever had we had this we had this scene where, oh, he was so hot.

1:14:01And literally, I remember, I know, I'm like, sorry, guys, can we turn the cameras on for a second? But like, I remember thinking to myself too, like, how am I going to get turned on by this, you know, 47-year-old, like, large balding man? Like, there's nothing, like, how is this going to work for me? It's his energy. Oh, boy, did it work for me but like there was a scene where we first start doing mushrooms i don't know if you remember the scene and he's a very method actor so he wanted you know props i think they actually had dehydrated mushrooms and he wanted them to put like pepper on them or a lot of spice or just something so when you put it in your mouth there's some kind of a reaction i was i've been very lucky that i've worked with such incredible actors that i've been able to they've been my acting school in a lot of ways and i've been able to steal things and use it for my own process so um so i i do that too now but like so so we did that and there's a scene where I'm sitting on his lap and we're taking these mushrooms and then we have to kiss and when they called cut we were still kissing like and like you heard it here first we were still kissing oh you didn't say that on Kimmel did you no I didn't is that in your literally no it's not he's not in the book but like juicy Sarah and like and I just remember that too as I'm talking to you guys I'm like oh my god like and we did it like three four times and every time like they would call cut

1:15:29like maybe he wanted you to wear the jimmy shoes and i wonder if you were sending anybody else the flowers when you are when you're having all these sex scenes with all these guys is there weren't that many like what do you mean sex life sex life yes what the sex life but prior to that is there a boner with everyone um no no because well i will tell you this i will tell you There's a great Sylvester Stallone quote about that. Okay. Which is, is it Sylvester or Denzel? I think it's Sylvester, which is like, I apologize if I do. I apologize if I don't. And it's a very unnatural thing, right? Like, first of all, the guy is wearing like a cup, a pad, multiple layers.

1:16:09So they don't want anything. They don't want. They don't. Yeah. And like, and I also have on multiple like privacy patches and things because it's a very unnatural thing, right? to do a sex scene in front of a hundred crew. It's kind of mysterious though. Yeah, but it sounds like it's not as sexy as it. It's not as sexy as you would think. It really isn't. It's very choreographed. And in order to get lost in it, like something that I would always tell my scene partners before doing it was it's like, look, I don't care if you need to do a shot. I don't care like whatever. If you need to superimpose somebody else's face like on mine, go for it.

1:16:46But the more we dive into this, the less we have to do it. Taylor wants to be your scene partner next time. Taylor, are you ejaculating back there or what? Are you okay? So this is giving him material for later tonight. Okay. Okay. Well, good. I'm happy I can be of service, Taylor. Happy I can be of service. Well, we started more PG than we got. I was going to say in the beginning, I was like, listen, this is life. Now I might have to do a disclaimer at the front. Sometimes you get, again, going back to the car pickup, pickup moms. Yeah. Like some of these women will write in and be like, I was dropping my kid off at school and you started time.

1:17:18I'm like, where have you been? Like, you know what the show is. Like, what do you, what do you, what do you. Oh, you're saying when they're listening to us. Yeah, they write a review. They're angry. Like, I, like, you know. Oh, no. Like, they're angry at our topics of conversation. They're angry at the topics, that there's language and this and that. That's the kind of woman that needs to get fucked more. There you go. I said it first. Or I said it here. But yeah, no, he was, he was incredible. He was incredible. Really cool. What a memory. Yeah. If I was dating, like, if I had a bio, I'm like on a, what is it?

1:17:44Bumble? It would say that. raya i'm on raya tony soprano like no my raya profile is very simple i've got like what's what's your bio um i don't even have anything on my bio like i just think it's so i just i like that it's there's nothing there i just have like a song it's like i might write write you wish that's great i don't have anything i just have like four pictures and a song and that's it what's the song i think it's dire maker love it yeah okay sarah everyone go buy her book life is lifey it's pink it's aesthetic and it's very very honest and candid congratulations thank you so much anytime i would love that i would love that y 'all are awesome