In short
Lauryn and Michael Bosstick discuss how they manage free time when they’re off work—recharging, resetting, and enjoying life—plus their “travel and free time playbook” for vacations, including how they plan itineraries and handle downtime with kids.
Guest backgrounds
No guests. The episode is a solo episode starring Lauryn Bosstick and Michael Bosstick (The Bossticks).
Key claims
Free time should “compound” your life (reading, walking, cleaning, family time) or fully switch off your brain (fiction, science fiction, video games, “brain dead” relaxation). They shut off intentionally and don’t share free time on social media to protect privacy. Travel should be relaxing, not stressful; overspending on quality experiences is worth it. Recovery is necessary to prevent burnout, like athletes needing recovery time. Hospitality matters: remember names and acknowledge staff for better service.
Notable examples
Watching “Real Housewives,” reading fiction/science fiction, meditation, saunas/cold plunges, “Michael Bostic itinerary” with reservations, emailing hotel concierge, “greasing” concierge/tipping for organization, breakfast routines (omelet, poached eggs, cappuccino), and traveling with a nanny/homeschool teacher; kids get “treasure hunt” binders and theme days.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOManaging Free Time for Recharge
0:45 to 4:30
Exploration of how the hosts manage their free time to recharge and reset.
“We realize we talk a lot on this show about how to be a high performer, how to get things done, how to operate businesses, how to be in a relationship.”
Different Approaches to Downtime
4:30 to 7:50
Discussion on their differing approaches to downtime and mental resets.
“maybe at times it can feel, I would say even at times, overwhelming to some people that are watching because it looks like it's go, go, go.”
Intentionality in Personal Life
7:50 to 9:30
The importance of being intentional with personal time and relationships.
“And then they found out their hormones and their, their life was being destroyed because they weren't sleeping.”
The Value of Travel
9:30 to 12:30
Insights on the significance of travel as a means of enjoyment and connection.
“Like you don't want to get to the end of your life with a pile of money and a bunch of work realizing you never enjoyed life.”
Choosing Travel Destinations
12:30 to 14:01
How to choose meaningful travel destinations over trendy places.
“that I don't like to go to the hip trendy places any longer.”
Choosing Trendy Travel Destinations
14:01 to 16:47
Learn how to assess the value of trendy travel destinations beyond their Instagram appeal.
“Let me tell you my thoughts on trendy places.”
The Travel Itinerary Playbook
16:48 to 19:04
Discover the importance of detailed trip planning and how to create an enjoyable itinerary.
“Everything you say I enjoy, I don't enjoy.”
Building Relationships While Traveling
19:05 to 23:12
Understand how to leverage relationships with hotel staff to enhance travel experiences.
“And to me, like if you're going to travel, enjoy the experience.”
Maintaining Routines While Traveling
23:13 to 26:48
Learn how to adapt home routines for travel to maintain wellness and connection with family.
“and I'll kick this one off, are habits from home that we do in free time.”
Traveling with Children: Balancing Fun and Manners
26:49 to 28:00
Explore effective strategies for traveling with children while ensuring they respect others.
“So I'll say, I'm going to pick up my phone because I have to send an email to work and I'll give it context so it doesn't feel like I'm dismissing them.”
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Navigating Children's Behavior While Traveling
28:00 to 29:50
Learn how to manage children's behavior during travel and dining experiences.
“whether they're on a vacation, whether they're on a flight.”
Traveling with Kids: Strategies and Support
29:50 to 31:15
Discover strategies for traveling with kids and utilizing support like nannies.
“Then we're a little bit more lenient because there's other parents there.”
Traveling with Kids: Strategies and Support
31:20 to 33:09
Discover strategies for traveling with kids and utilizing support like nannies.
“lessons that we can keep working and that they can be with us.”
Traveling with Kids: Strategies and Support
33:15 to 34:43
Discover strategies for traveling with kids and utilizing support like nannies.
“Here's something that keeps me up at night as a parent.”
Traveling with Kids: Strategies and Support
34:56 to 36:13
Discover strategies for traveling with kids and utilizing support like nannies.
“I picked classic, timeless pieces that I love.”
Traveling with Kids: Strategies and Support
36:17 to 36:28
Discover strategies for traveling with kids and utilizing support like nannies.
“You can shop my faves and get 15 % off your first order.”
Managing Work-Life Balance with Kids
37:59 to 42:01
Learn how to balance work, travel, and family life effectively.
“most of it is about the behind the scenes, which is why we're sort of pulling the curtain off this and showing exactly how Michael said we set up our life so we can do what we do.”
Exploring Boredom and Solitude
42:01 to 45:56
Learn how to combat boredom through curiosity and the importance of solitude.
“I mean, listen, and if you are feeling boredom, it's a moment to be introspective, in my opinion, to start thinking about your interests.”
Rituals for Free Time
45:56 to 48:20
Discover personal rituals for making the most of your free time and mental clarity.
“We know, we all know, we all have the app.”
Effective Packing Strategies
48:20 to 52:35
Uncover effective strategies for packing efficiently and stylishly for travel.
“So this is a Lauren Bostic tip that Michael has taken from me.”
The Benefits of Caffeinated Sunscreen
57:13 to 58:38
Discover the advantages of using caffeinated sunscreen for a glowing look.
“I hope it does because I am wearing caffeinated sunscreen.”
Efficient Travel with Toomey Bags
58:47 to 59:24
Explore the features of the Toomey Alpha Long Trip Garment Bag for organized travel.
“The best suitcase for anyone wondering that wants to travel and have the most efficient space, and it doesn't seem like this when you look at it, is the Toomey Alpha Long Trip Garment Bag, I believe.”
Nightclubs and Cocktails: A Personal Perspective
59:25 to 1:03:40
Hear personal views on nightclubs, cocktails, and having fun with friends.
“Well, listen, nightclubs are historically for hunting, going out, meeting people.”
Travel Must-Haves and Idiosyncrasies
1:03:41 to 1:05:18
Find out essential travel items and unique travel preferences.
“I've loved nicotine since I even discovered it.”
Travel Hacks and Final Thoughts
1:05:19 to 1:07:41
Learn effective travel hacks like shipping supplies to hotels.
“I respect the people that are like particular and specific.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01Michael Bosstick:Welcome to the Bossticks, starring Lauryn Bosstick and Michael Bosstick. Together, they are the Bossticks.
0:14Michael Bosstick:We are back in the studio. We're doing another solo episode. We're having fun with these solos again, kind of getting back to our roots of the early days. Of course, we're going to continue to have guests and incredible names on. We're getting ready to do a big recording session coming up after the summer. But we're having fun with these because this is how the show started. It was Lauryn and I. doing these kinds of things, answering questions. We have a lot of questions from you guys. And on this one, we're going to talk about things that we, something that we actually don't talk about a lot, which is how we manage our free time when we're off, when we're not working, when we're taking time to ourselves to recharge.
0:46Michael Bosstick:We realize we talk a lot on this show about how to be a high performer, how to get things done, how to operate businesses, how to be in a relationship. But we're also human beings. We take time off, we go on vacations, we enjoy life. We're not just go, go, go all the time. we take a lot of downtime. So we're going to talk about that and how we enjoy life and how we reset and how we take time for ourselves.
1:05Lauryn Bosstick:Today I was meditating and I was thinking about this episode. And to me, free time is in two buckets. The first bucket for me is that every hour that I'm not working, I feel like I'm either compounding my life or I'm distracting from it. And so I think about that when it comes to free time. And I try to spend my free time compounding it. The other way I think about free time is that I also need to recharge to do what I do.
1:37Michael Bosstick:What do you mean compounding it? Compounding what?
1:39Lauryn Bosstick:Meaning like if I'm sitting around during my free time consuming other people's content every single second that I have a day off, that's not doing anything productive. So how I would prefer to spend my free time is reading, walking with my children, with my husband, cleaning. I love cleaning. Just doing things that I feel like. You do a little more of that. Doing things that I feel like move the needle as opposed to just distracting myself. I am different. Okay.
2:09Michael Bosstick:I'm either like hiding out alone by myself thinking so intensely that I'm starting to drive myself nuts and why I have to be around by myself is because anyone around me during that time is also being driven nuts. Or I'm doing something that is completely mindless and useless, looking at memes, playing video games, reading fiction books, things that I don't where I don't have to think about anything. and I use that as the time to kind of just like give my brain a reset and give myself permission to like not think about anything or any responsibility.
2:48Lauryn Bosstick:It's called being cerebral.
2:50Michael Bosstick:No, being cerebral is when I like really am like intensely thinking. I'm talking about like being brain dead at times, like just not doing like playing old video games, relaxing, reading fiction books, like not having to think about any of my responsibilities.
3:05Lauryn Bosstick:What video games do you play?
3:07Michael Bosstick:I was recently playing this new James Bond video game called First Light. I think First Light, is that what it's called? Look that up, Carson. And I was playing Call of Duty. Sometimes I will go and play like Wii games. Zaza's learning how to play Mario Kart and playing that. I like to be like really, really in it or really, really out of it. I don't like this thing where like I have to always be in my head all the time because that can start to be a lot. I think a lot of people relate like, you know, you have to be able to switch off. For somebody who's, for some people that are switched on all the time, which I would categorize myself as that, not from an intelligence perspective, just like brain racing all the time.
3:42Michael Bosstick:I have to have things that completely switch me off, right? Like a lot of people really love biographies or business books or self-helps. When I need to switch off, I'm going to fiction and science fiction and things that I don't, that have nothing to do with what's going on in the world.
3:55Lauryn Bosstick:My video game is what?
3:58Michael Bosstick:I have no idea. Come on.
3:59Lauryn Bosstick:What is my video game? Are you?
4:01Michael Bosstick:Super Mario?
4:02Lauryn Bosstick:No, no, no. like what is my video game like it's not a video game it's like my video game is I don't know real housewives oh that's okay well that's okay come on I get it I get the video got the analogy even though housewives is like Tetris you have to figure out who's on whose side it's kind of using
4:23Michael Bosstick:your brain in a weird way so you know I think because of maybe the content we put out there and some of the things we talk about on this show, maybe at times it can feel, I would say even at times, overwhelming to some people that are watching because it looks like it's go, go, go. It's nonstop. It's always talking about these things and talking to different people that are doing big things on the show. But Lauren and I have a lot of time that we take for ourselves personally together with the family. We're really intentional about it. We shut off. We stop working. And we really go and recharge.
4:55Michael Bosstick:We're obviously really into wellness. We've talked about that on the show. We take time to do that. We're in the gym all the time. We're doing saunas and cold plunges and, you know, meditations, all sorts of different things. But we're intentionable about making sure that we have some semblance of a life outside of our careers.
5:11Lauryn Bosstick:I think, too, we never share our free time because when we have our free time, we're not posting it. So, for instance, when I'm really in my mom bucket, I'm not pulling the phone out in front and my children and showing me, you know, making honey bear toast. Like I'm not pulling my phone out when I'm making mommy waffles or when I'm doing something with my kids. I don't show my free time really on social media. And so I thought that this episode could be interesting to some people because we really don't show or talk about what we do when we're off and we do take time off.
5:51Michael Bosstick:No. And if you've made it this far, it's likely because you're here for the right reasons. You find value in the show and in the content and maybe even in some of the things we say. But I'll be honest, a lot of the reason there's been a little bit of a pullback, we used to share a lot more about our personal lives. But when you become a parent and when you've done something front facing for a long time and when you have kids, I think you just become much more protective of the things you care about most in your life, which is obviously, you know, for the parents out there, your children and your relationship.
6:21And, you know, there sometimes less is more.
6:24Michael Bosstick:Not every little thing needs to be seen online. Not every little moment of life. All that being said, I understand there's a segment of the audience that would maybe like to see more and hear more, which is why we want to do this. But I think what it is, is like, if I'm just being completely transparent is we're both just really protective of our relationship. We're protective of what we share about our children. We're protective of how much we share online. We're also protective of how much we're online. Like we, Lauren and I, because we create content for a living and put a lot of stuff out there publicly and speak to all these things, we understand what it's like to be out in the public space for too long and for too much.
7:03Michael Bosstick:And I'm not going to lie, like there's a lot of benefits, but there's also a lot of liabilities. And so we're conscious of that. And we're just careful of how much we're putting out and how much we're constantly online.
7:12Lauryn Bosstick:I think what I've tried to do is I've tried to create almost like a free time portfolio. What am I doing on my free time. So some is like Michael said, it's tuning out and watching housewives. And then other things that I do every single day that you guys know, I'm a huge reader. I love reading. I love spending my free time reading, but I also have free time buckets like recovery or learning or being a mother or a wife, or even just things like that are playful, taking a walk, traveling, just being and I think that if you don't have that space to do those things personally I am not as effective if I don't have a foundation of free time yeah it's it's hard in a
7:59Michael Bosstick:society that rewards kind of like hustle and go go go and we're definitely guilty of that at times and we work a lot I think it's important to remind yourself why you take time off like burnout is a real thing and I think that for the long and I look at this as like sleep you know there was that period of time where people like thought it was cool to, to not get sleep and just to go, go, go. And then they found out their hormones and their, their life was being destroyed because they weren't sleeping. So it's like kind of like working against you. We, we look at the sport of business, our career, our jobs as, as the sport we're playing in life, right?
8:33Michael Bosstick:Or at least that's how I look at it. And I think if you're listening or watching and you look at your career as your sport, then you have to do what any athlete would do, which is you have to have ample recovery time so that you can keep playing the game. And a lot of times people feel guilty if they're not constantly working, constantly hustling. There was a period of time where it's almost considered a weakness to take time off. I look at it the exact opposite. I need some recovery time. I need to recharge. I need to enjoy the moments of vacation and time with friends to also put in perspective what we're doing this all for in the first place, which is to enjoy life and enjoy the sport you play.
9:07Michael Bosstick:If you're constantly just burning yourself down and chasing a number or chasing a result or chasing a promotion, eventually you're going to get tired of playing that sport and that's when burnout happens. So I look at time off for anyone, you know, Dear Media, we have an unlimited vacation policy. People use it really responsibly because they understand this concept where you have to be able to take time for yourself so that you can come back and still be excited about what you're doing. So if you're listening or watching this and you realize maybe you've just been burning the midnight oil and burning on both ends, there's a time and place for that, of course, but you also have to take a step back sometimes to put into perspective what you're doing and why it's important to do it in the first place, right?
9:45Michael Bosstick:Like you don't want to get to the end of your life with a pile of money and a bunch of work realizing you never enjoyed life. So Lauren and I are really intentional about actually enjoying life.
9:52Lauryn Bosstick:All right. So free time, one of the main things we do is we love to travel.
9:57Michael Bosstick:Love to travel.
9:58Lauryn Bosstick:We love to travel. First question. This is all from the audience. How do you choose where we travel and what does it look like doing a Michael Bostic itinerary because let me tell you guys about this Michael Bostic itinerary. There is no one, and I mean no one, that makes a better itinerary. You have it dialed out. You have it balanced like a fine wine.
10:21Michael Bosstick:Well, let me just say a couple things that I think are applicable to anyone. One, and this is my disclaimer, I overinvest in travel and underinvest in other things. For example, I would rather spend less on the place I live, the place I buy, the place I rent. I would probably, I would like to spend less on the cars I drive. I would like to have less fancy things and eat out at, you know, while I'm in the city that I live in, maybe less fancy so that I can over invest in travel. So what I realized as somebody who's done okay in my life, talking about financially is that the thing that brings me personally the most joy when it comes to using money for something besides business is experiences those experiences for me are experiences most most tethered to travel and also experience with friends so what i'm saying is i'm caveating that with i overspend on the travel because that to me brings me the most joy with the money that i make that I'm not using for business or for future savings.
11:28Michael Bosstick:So yeah, when I travel, I do it in a very particular way. I spend more than maybe what most people would think to be normal. And by the way, I don't just do that at this stage in my life. I've always done that. When I was 18 years old, I would rather spend on a nice hotel and a nice flight. And if I wasn't doing that, I'd prefer to just actually not even go. I think that a lot of times people, they really want to travel and they want to go somewhere, but then they do it on the cheap and then they have the experience and they don't get to enjoy it. Maybe it's stressful. Maybe it's uncomfortable.
12:02Michael Bosstick:Maybe the hotel is not great. Maybe the accommodations of travel are not great. And so you've taken this thing that's supposed to be a relaxing and joyful experience and you've maybe spent less on it and then you have a bad experience. For me, it's like you're better off staying home. So that's a mindset shift that I know a lot of people maybe get uncomfortable with, but I've known that since I was a kid. My dad was like that. I'm like that.
12:24Lauryn Bosstick:And I think we also have to say the way I like to travel is I have realized as I've gotten older that I don't like to go to the hip trendy places any longer. I want to go somewhere where I can disappear with a book on a beach with a margarita. And I realized that when I turned 40, I thought I wanted to have this huge birthday. I was planning it for years. I was going to invite my core 50 people that I absolutely love to Cabo. And I was going to have this huge blowout. And every detail was going to be planned. Every detail was going to be planned. And I wanted to have the bartender and the itinerary and the merch.
13:10Lauryn Bosstick:And like it was going to be like a wedding.
13:12Michael Bosstick:There's only one thing more delusional than a destination wedding. And it's a destination birthday.
13:16Lauryn Bosstick:So thank God we didn't do it.
13:18Michael Bosstick:Nobody wants to.
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13:19Lauryn Bosstick:I don't agree that nobody wants to go to a destination. I was going to make it really fun. I know, but thank God we didn't do it.
13:25Michael Bosstick:Nobody wants to do it.
13:26Lauryn Bosstick:I woke up in the middle of the night one night and I thought, wait, I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. I want to actually go away and disappear and just fully relax my nervous system. And I went and told Michael and Michael was right on it. and he ended up finding Turks and Caicos and doing that whole itinerary. And my birthday ended up being spent on a beach with my dad and my stepmom and my sister and her fiance and our kids. And it was perfect. So I think that that's where we start when it comes to picking a traveling place. Now, we try to pick it based off the vibe and the vibe that we want now is more alignment.
14:06Michael Bosstick:Let me tell you my thoughts on trendy places. And it's going to be really bratty. but I'm just going to be honest with people. First, you have to ask yourself if you really actually want to go to these places because you want to go to them or because they're on Instagram and look pretty. And keep in mind, anything you're seeing on Instagram is typically looking better than it actually is. I've been to very, there's a few places I've been that maybe live up to the hype, but like most places you have to look at and say, is it worth the trend. Second, and this is the bratty part. If you're going to go to a trendy place that is popular, let's talk about recently, like, you know, people, a lot of people are going south of France.
14:48Michael Bosstick:A lot of people are, are going to St. Barts. A lot of people are going to, I don't know, here in the States, like, I don't know my, wherever these places are going, this is the bratty part. Buckle in. If you're going to go to a trendy place, you have to be even more dialed in and situated than if you weren't because the problem is everybody is competing to go to these places and obviously space is limited so if you're not fully set up if you don't know someone if you don't have an in if you don't have the funds if you don't have a way to get to the place and enjoy it comfortably then you're going to be constantly stuck in a crowd in lines and again to me that is a don't pass go don't collect$200 just don't bother going so the way I think about trendy places is yeah they look they may look good on Instagram and a lot of people it might be popular to go there.
15:32Michael Bosstick:But if you're not fully set up, then the question is, do you really want to go there? I look at the same thing as like with music festivals, like unless you're going to go to one of these music festivals and you're dialed in and you're organized and you have a streamlined process that you're not going to be sweating and fighting lines. The question is, is it really that glamorous? And is it really that is it really that worth it?
15:50Lauryn Bosstick:Music festivals just so are on the same page are my worst nightmare. And I know people love them. And that's great. But I think you really have to get to know yourself and what you like and what you don't like. I find music festivals for me to be the most ungrounding thing ever.
16:03Michael Bosstick:A lot of people like them. But what I was going to say about trendy places, like say, here's my answer to that. There's alternative places, like say it's a beach town, say it's a mountain town, say it's a city. There's other places in off seasons or at different times, or even just different destinations that can offer you the same kinds of experiences, but maybe without those trendy big crowds for maybe a fraction of the price. And so for me, I always ask myself, like, do I really want to go into that place? Am I really set up? Or am I looking for an experience that is like that in a beautiful place, maybe in an off season or maybe when it's not so trendy.
16:36Michael Bosstick:And then I like to book travel there. For example, like if you're going anywhere in Europe in the summer, you know, it's massive crowds and that could be fun, but you got to make sure that you're not fighting those crowds that you actually have a way to enjoy it.
16:47Lauryn Bosstick:Okay. So what's the travel playbook when it comes to the way you plan an itinerary because I have been with you for a billion years and I have never planned a trip because you enjoy and don't say you don't you enjoy planning the details of the trip everybody including our friend group and including you give us the secrets come on that I enjoy what do I
17:10Michael Bosstick:enjoy I enjoy planning for everyone I enjoy handling finances I enjoy HR I enjoy disciplining people. Everything you say I enjoy, I don't enjoy. I just do it because I know none of you are going to help me do it. None of you are going to help me.
17:23Lauryn Bosstick:You do like planning trips. I don't buy that for one second. If any of our friends are having it dialed.
17:29Michael Bosstick:I don't like planning trips. I don't like showing up to places without a plan and then standing around not knowing what to do or where to go or how to get in.
17:37Lauryn Bosstick:I don't either. That's why I married you.
17:38Michael Bosstick:So again, I'll go back to what I said in the beginning. When we take time off, if we're going to spend our hard earned money, if we're going to travel, if we're ever going to vacation away from our kids, if we're going to go to a far place, then I want to enjoy that place to the greatest extent that I can based on the budget we have.
17:54Lauryn Bosstick:So what's the playbook? How do we do the Michael Bostick itinerary? So here's the playbook for anyone listening.
17:58Michael Bosstick:If you're going to plan a trip, I would actually spend real time planning a trip. I would spend time getting real reservations. I would think down to the logistics. I think about it from the time I get off a plane, where the transportation is, where it's taking me, what I'm doing when I get there, how I'm being organized. I want it to feel relaxing. I want it to feel like I'm not rushed and I want to enjoy the experience or else it's like everybody's working so hard for their money. What's the point of stressing out and having a bad trip? Um, but yeah, so like when I go there and by the way, like I, I like to, we like to do this with friends.
18:32Michael Bosstick:I like to like, again, the way I like to spend our personal money is I like to invite friends. I like to foot the bill. I like to, to actually like bring them to dinner and bring them on as an experience. I get a lot of joy out of that. So does Lauren. and again I want everyone to enjoy themselves so we spend a lot of time making sure that we are like the lunches are dialed in dinners we have experiences to do we have we have stuff set up we can always back out of those plans but there's a there's a plan there's an itinerary that the itinerary gets sent to everybody it's quite musical it's almost like you're a composer and you're you're doing a score but again I think like as it relates to travel some people are more spontaneous.
19:08Michael Bosstick:And I get that, but there is nothing worse than going somewhere there and then realizing that you are stuck or can't get a reservation or have to stand in a line and you're sweating and you're running around and you're stressed out. And to me, like if you're going to travel, enjoy the experience. I've never done a trip where I've spent money to enjoy and gotten home and then thought about it six months later and be like, man, I wish I didn't spend that money. I've always said like, wow, that was good. Now there's a million different items that I've bottom from a material perspective where I'm like, man, that did not bring me joy.
19:38Michael Bosstick:And I wish I didn't spend that or I didn't do that. But you'll never look back on experiences that you do well and regret them.
19:44Lauryn Bosstick:So any other tips to planning an itinerary? Do you use ChatGPT?
19:49Michael Bosstick:I will use ChatGPT these days. It's pretty good.
19:52Lauryn Bosstick:How do you use it?
19:54Michael Bosstick:I just like will tell it like what I've done over the years. I've tell it what I've done, where I like to go, the places I've liked, not like the hotels I like. It kind of like forms this perspective of who it thinks you are. It's pretty good actually. And then it'll make recommendations. It's really good for, you know, if you're going to new cities or whatever. But what I tell everybody, and I've said it for years on this show, the hotel concierge is your best friend. You can email them in advance. I always do email them like maybe a month in advance and start having them sending over recommendations and organizing things.
20:23Michael Bosstick:It's also good when you get there to grease them a little bit. What I mean by grease them is give them a little tip just for helping you organize in the front end. They're always going to remember it. They're always going to get you good tables. They're going to give you good recommendations. They'll remember you. So I, you know, I'm greasing left and right. I'm greasing the door people. I'm greasing the front desk. I'm greasing the concierge. I'm greasing. I'm greasing.
20:43Lauryn Bosstick:Greasing me.
20:44Michael Bosstick:I'm greasing everyone. Hey, listen, it's good. You know why? Because if you go back to these places, say you would say like, I'm a creature of habit. I like to go to the same places like this hotel. We just got back from France. I've been going there for, you know, 20 years. I like to go back.
20:56Lauryn Bosstick:Something else that we do too is when we go back to hotels, which we like we are sort of creatures of habit we like our places we make a list of everyone's name and i mean everyone we have a list you guys of the person at the front door what the person's kids are named how old they are what they like what they don't like we have a list that tells us all these different things and as we get to know them year after year if we keep going we have these really robust paragraphs of each of these people that we know. So, and, and I like to do that within chat GPT. So I'll go on before I go on the vacation and I'll say, okay, I'm going to make a list of everyone at the hotel.
21:41Lauryn Bosstick:And then as I'm at the hotel, I'll talk to chat telling it like, this is John. John has two girls. Their names are this, they're this old. He knows how to make an amazing margarita. So by the time I've left, I have this whole list of everyone, uh, from even, even the guy who was taking our pictures or helping us on the boat. And so we've met all these new people and we have it all organized.
22:03Michael Bosstick:There's a tip in there as well, which is, you know, you're, if you're traveling and you're in hotels or restaurants, they're in the hospitality business, but every business, and this is a key distinction, every business should be in the hospitality business and every individual should be in the hospitality business. Meaning it's a good idea for anyone to remember names from, you know, from the top of organizations down to the bottom of organizations. It's good to have, you know, personal touches, all these people, and it'll pay dividends for you. People like to be acknowledged. They like to be remembered.
22:34Michael Bosstick:They like to be thought of. They like to know that you're paying attention. And so Lauren and I try to do that, not just with travel, but with kind of every area of our life. And I think it's paid dividends. There's nothing worse than when people feel like you don't acknowledge them and when you don't know them and when you're not appreciative of them. So we try to, we're not always perfect, you know, but but we do try to be intentional about it. And you'd be surprised how far it goes, especially like if you're returning to a hotel and maybe that front desk manager or that bellman or the person at the spa has helped you before and you acknowledge, remember them, you're typically going to get a much better service and maybe even an upgrade.
23:11Michael Bosstick:And so we think about that a lot.
23:12Lauryn Bosstick:The next thing that I want to discuss, and I'll kick this one off, are habits from home that we do in free time. What are we bringing on vacation and travel with us? My habits that I bring from home is I'm not psychotic about my morning and nighttime routine when I'm traveling, which gives me a little bit of air. And Ryan Holiday actually taught me this. He said, when you're on vacation, you should have a vacation travel routine. And when you're at home, you should have a home routine. And I'm not perfect by any means. I wake up, I see how I feel. I feel like I go with how I want to be aligned in the morning.
23:49Lauryn Bosstick:So when I travel, I like to keep it pretty simple. And that means we bring our supplements. We have our electrolytes always before coffee. We bring our sea salt. We bring our minerals, aminos. We'll bring that down to breakfast wherever we're having breakfast. We typically like the same thing for breakfast. My order is always an omelet with butter, no oil. I also like blueberries or grapefruit or kiwi.
24:16Michael Bosstick:three poached eggs, avocado, blueberries, coffee.
24:20Lauryn Bosstick:Yeah. And then I like a full fat cappuccino.
24:22Michael Bosstick:That's mine.
24:23Lauryn Bosstick:And we will take time in the morning to actually enjoy each other when we're traveling over breakfast because with children, as you know, you're usually running out the door. Now, most of the time our kids are on vacation with us and we'll bring them into this. We'll have them sit at the table and ask them what they're grateful for or have conversation. but we do try to just keep it pretty simple with the routine something that I do in my free time that I bring when I travel always is reading so and Michael's like this too we both just love to read and we're either bringing one hard back book because Michael is a psychopath about the weight and luggage or I'll bring my kindle and I'll just stock it up wait do you want to know why I'm a psychopath this is not really this is the husband's listening okay there is nothing more humiliating
25:14Michael Bosstick:on god's green earth than your wife's bag or girlfriend's bag being overstuffed and overweight i don't i don't think that's hold on no and then you on your hands and knees sweating sometimes hung over a lot of times hung over unpacking the bag with clothes flying everywhere in the airport holding up the line in front of you get terrible looks you look probably horrendous and you're on your hands and knees fighting a bag and then standing there like a jerk off wondering where
25:42Lauryn Bosstick:you put the extra stuff well half my bag is my blanket i have to bring a blanket on vacation i'm not doing anymore okay i bring a blanket i'm not gonna be worried about the light i can't worry
25:50Michael Bosstick:about the lighting and how i look on camera and then have some somebody see me wrestling around with your bags in the airport rolling around like an alligator fighting a fucking log in a
26:00Lauryn Bosstick:You said that my last time I packed was the best time ever. Yeah, it was.
26:05Michael Bosstick:Yeah. I don't want to be one of those jerk offs either that's standing before that we leave holding the thing that weighs the bag. You know what I'm talking about? The thing. I'm not doing that. Just can we just I'd rather you bring two bags to check in.
26:15Lauryn Bosstick:Okay.
26:16Michael Bosstick:Nobody wants to do it. I don't. I can't. Ladies, don't make your husband look like that. He really overthinks it.
26:20Lauryn Bosstick:The other thing that I like to do when I'm traveling is I like to walk. I like to meditate. I try to write notes. I try to have fresh ideas. I notice when I detach from my work, when I'm traveling, I can have clarity around what I'm doing when it comes to my business. And then if my children are there, I really make a huge effort to be off my phone and be present with them. If we're at dinner or lunch, I really don't want to be on the phone in front of them. And if I do pick up my phone, this is something that I learned. I tell them why. So I'll say, I'm going to pick up my phone because I have to send an email to work and I'll give it context so it doesn't feel like I'm dismissing them.
27:02Lauryn Bosstick:And obviously I'm not perfect at this, but that's something when I'm on vacation, I really try to be thoughtful about where the phone is when it comes to children. I want to be able to play and have them swim and have me be engaged and not be off in space on my phone. Yeah.
27:19Michael Bosstick:Let's talk about children for a minute and traveling. People have this question. Do we travel with our children always? Sometimes, sometimes not. Most of the time. Most of the time, but depending on the location. So what we've learned over the years is there's places that children can actually enjoy. These are places where they can swim and run around and maybe be a little bit louder and maybe not disrupt a bunch of people. And then there's other places where one, it's stressful to you as the parent and two, disruptive of other people trying to enjoy an experience. Now, my personal opinion, and I know not every parent agrees with this, is that it is my responsibility as a parent to make sure that my children do not disrupt other people's time, whether they're dining out at a restaurant, whether they're on a vacation, whether they're on a flight.
28:04Michael Bosstick:I know it's hard to control. I know there's some parents screaming at the speaker and yelling at what I'm saying, but I believe that that That is my personal responsibility. Some people believe let the kids do their thing. Let them be who they are. Again, my personal belief is it is my responsibility as the adult to make sure that my children do not disrupt other people's experiences.
28:22Lauryn Bosstick:We're trying to go for manners and sophistication.
28:24Michael Bosstick:Yeah, like I'm the person like if my children get up in a restaurant and start running around, it's an absolute no that they're going home. They're not allowed to. I think like I don't want somebody's greasy kid running up to me when I'm dining. I don't want my greasy kid running up to them.
28:37Lauryn Bosstick:We have a saying to our kids too that my grandma used to say to me and I say it to my children all the time and they know exactly what it means and it's manners the butler. And that means sit up straight, like put your napkin in your lap, put your legs in front of you and eat like an adult.
28:55Michael Bosstick:And here's the thing. Children are smart, right? I think sometimes we baby these kids too much. We tell our kids, if you want to go to dinner, this is how you're going to behave. And if you do not behave this way, you will not be going to dinner next time and you will be leaving the dinner this time. And we say that to them in advance and we ask them, do you understand? Is that okay with you? Of course, we're going to bring colors and things for them to do. We're not going to make them sit through a five-hour dinner. That's absurd. But we're going to have that conversation in advance.
29:19Lauryn Bosstick:And once in a while, there's an iPad with a game on it.
29:21Michael Bosstick:Yeah, once in a while. But it's not an iPad.
29:23Lauryn Bosstick:It's those like Amazon games app.
29:25Michael Bosstick:We try not to. But again, if you treat your children, like yes, they're children. But if you treat them with adult conversation sometimes, they process. They understand. Kids, they want to learn. they're like little sponges. So if we say, hey, people are enjoying dinner or they're enjoying a trip. And if you're going to come here, this is the expectation to say you have to behave. And if you can't, then you can't come. It's almost like a little contract you sign with them. So we do that. But back to traveling. If we do travel with the kids at this point, now being on our third kid and having six years of experience raising kids, we try to at least pick destinations that are family friendly, where there's other parents there with kids.
30:02Michael Bosstick:Then we're a little bit more lenient because there's other parents there. They're in the same boat. They get it. We're all kind of signing up to have this kid experience.
30:09Lauryn Bosstick:We do travel with a nanny. That's a question people ask all the time.
30:12Michael Bosstick:We travel with a nanny. Again, we have three kids.
30:14Lauryn Bosstick:And sometimes when it's a long trip, we travel with a homeschool teacher.
30:18Michael Bosstick:Yes.
30:19Lauryn Bosstick:That's a question that people always want to know. I have no shame in the game of the help that I have. Well, let's explain that context.
30:25Michael Bosstick:So Lauren and I have put our children into different schools. I won't get into those specifically. One of the issues is that we travel a lot for work and for the show. Dear Media has an office in New York, an office in LA, and then in Texas. And so we're bouncing. And if we're going for a longer period of time, we want our children with us. Problem with that for parents with school-aged kids is the schools really do not like that. They don't like when you're out of school. They don't like when you're pulling them out.
30:51Lauryn Bosstick:No, you got called into the principal's office.
30:52Michael Bosstick:I got called into the vice principal's office. Lovely vice principal, by the way. Really nice. But I had PTSD from when I was younger. and so what we did is we actually hired a really amazing woman who is an actual teacher from a school and she works with us and our family and teaches our kids and when we have longer trips and the kids say say we're going to New York or LA and it's not really like a fun family trip we try to create opportunities for them to go out fun and play but they have like a structured kind of like lesson and school structure when they're traveling so that they can keep up with their lessons that we can keep working and that they can be with us.
31:26Lauryn Bosstick:It's a theme. They have theme days.
31:28Michael Bosstick:Yep. And to be clear, we're aware that this is not applicable to everyone and it's a cost and it's a resource that we have to invest in. But again, if we're talking honestly about our life, this is how we do things. It's how we're able to keep performing. It's how we're able to keep working. And we invest in our team the same way we invest in the team and the companies. Let's take a quick break to talk about Armour Colostrum. I love a product that packs a punch. I also love a product that nails a lot of birds with one stone, and that is definitely Armra. We live in a time now where there are so many supplements, so many recommendations, so many things you can take.
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32:29Michael Bosstick:But what's great is Armour Colossium works at the cellular level to bolster your health from within. And Colossium is nature's first whole food with over 400 bioactive nutrients that fortify gut health, strengthen your immune health, fuel performance, and more, paving the way for your best health and vitality. So if you're ready to reclaim your extraordinary, I highly suggest you check out Armour Colossium. We take it. Our kids take it. We give it to our pets. They come in these travel packets that we bring when we're on the go and they also have these tubs that you can have at home You can put it in any beverage of your choice or a smoothie or you can actually just dump it directly into your mouth It tastes good tastes like a milk dud And like I said, it's really easy to use and our whole family takes it.
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33:36Michael Bosstick:That's exactly why Haya exists to give parents a real solution in a market flooded with kids vitamins that prioritize candy-like appeal over actual nutrition. What we love about Haya is our kids look forward to it every single morning. We take our supplements together as a family. While we're taking ours, they're taking theirs. They actually ask for the Haya vitamins and the greens as well. They really pack a punch. We're talking vitamin D, B12, C, zinc, folate, all the foundational nutrients that support immune health, brain function, mood regulation, concentration, and the development of strong teeth and bones, everything kids need.
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34:55Lauryn Bosstick:I made a page on Revolve of all my favorites for you, okay? I picked classic, timeless pieces that I love. Some I have bought. Most I have bought. Some I have not. They're on my wish list, but they're things that I actually want to wear or that I have worn. I am a big Revolve fan because I buy things last minute and they always are the most seamless when it comes to shipping me the cutest outfits that I can find. I really like to use Revolve for my basics. So I'll go on and get all my white redone t-shirts on there. I'll go on and get my black, like tight, flattering tops there. I found a lot of tops that are on my favorite page that are black, tight.
35:36Lauryn Bosstick:They kind of pull you in at the waist, push the boobs up a little. Some have shoulder pads. They're so good. But there's a lot of simple pieces. I also use Revolve for my jeans. They have the best jeans. If you want to go to Revolve and get all the classics and not overthink your outfit, this is the place to go. Even if I order multiple options too, the shipping and returns make it so easy and everything on their site feels curated. So you don't have to feel chaotic when you're shopping. It feels like someone's been really intentional about each piece. So whether it's a big night out, a wedding, a summer trip, or you just need something last minute that actually works, Revolve has it.
36:13Lauryn Bosstick:Go to revolve.com slash skinny to shop our faves and use code skinny for 15 % off your first order. Fast shipping, easy returns. It just makes everything easier. That's revolve.com slash skinny. You can shop my faves and get 15 % off your first order. Offer ends August 6th, so don't miss out. I have been on the methylene blue train. Have you guys tried this? It's great. If you want energy, you want to feel fresh, you want to get a little zhuzh, you got to try methylated blue. The brand that I use is Troscriptions, okay? What I like about this brand is it's small logems. So what you do is you tuck it between your gum and your cheek and you let it dissolve over a few minutes.
36:52Lauryn Bosstick:So there's no pills, there's no powders, there's no swallowing. You just pop it in your mouth and let it dissolve. Troscriptions has everything from methylated blue to targeted GABA boosters to things that support focus, energy, calm, sleep, immune system. You can go on and pick, you know, what works for you. For me, I got my blood tested and I noticed that I was a little bit low on B. So this is something that I needed. Most wellness products today are built for mass appeal and they have a big ingredient list with fixed dosing and a lot of guesswork, but Troscriptions was built from a completely different starting point.
37:31Lauryn Bosstick:To give you a background, it was created by two practicing physicians with over 50 years of combined clinical experience, and they created it alongside a team of healthcare practitioners. So it wasn't in a boardroom, okay? There's a completely new way to optimize your health. Give it a try at trodaily.com slash skinny or enter code skinny at checkout for 25 % off your first order. That's trodaily.com slash skinny for 25 % off your first order. And I think when it comes to our life, what we've realized when you guys ask questions, most of it is about the behind the scenes, which is why we're sort of pulling the curtain off this and showing exactly how Michael said we set up our life so we can do what we do.
38:13Lauryn Bosstick:The homeschool teacher is amazing. She themes each day. Like I said, yesterday was space day. they had fairy and goblin day science day ice cream day and they'll like learn to make ice cream it's really cute and if you guys by the way I do want to say this if you guys are interested in me doing a full episode on how our homeschool teacher structures the days and the summers and all the things I can do an in-depth episode on that we had to get really honest with ourselves
38:40Michael Bosstick:as a family and realize that the way that we're working right now and the way that we're traveling for work and you know lauren and i obviously do the show together and work at the same time like the typical school structure may not work for our family because we're not willing to leave our kids for long periods of time without us and obviously the schools want the kids in school um and so we're not slowing down our work and they're not slowing down their school so we had to figure out the structure that works what i will say um is just like any other family when we're in a hotel room with three kids under six, we start to go nuts.
39:13Michael Bosstick:We typically try to book those connecting rooms. And even with that, the kids are crawling all over the place. They're yelling, they're out of routine. They like to crawl into our beds. It can be disruptive. It's definitely not for everybody. And it's hard for the parents that have traveled with kids. It is definitely, it's an investment. It is a challenge. It requires a lot of energy. What we say with the kids, It is not a vacation. It's a trip. But we do want to be with our kids. So we take time for ourselves and with our friends. But then when we do travel with the kids, it's a little bit different, more involved.
39:46Something that has really helped when we do have to travel for
39:50Lauryn Bosstick:three days that's really been helpful is my stylist, Isabel, told me this idea. She makes a little binder for her kids and she explains where she's going and why she has to go. So I'll say, mommy is going to France and she has to go speak at Can Lion about her show. And it'll be a picture of me and my kids and they'll have little pictures and they can see exactly what I'm doing. So they have context and mommy is gone for this many days. And each day that she's gone, there's going to be a treasure hunt. So it gives them context about how many days we're gone. So what we'll do is we'll put a little envelope on each page and I can show you guys a visual if you want and each page will have a treasure hunt card so day one it'll say I do one for Zaza and for Towns Bond is obviously too little and they'll open day one card and it'll say I am hiding by where all the dog food is and the dog bones and they'll have to go find the treasure and there'll be a little treasure there.
40:53Lauryn Bosstick:And I try to make the treasure a craft. So I just bought some treasures for a trip that we're going on. And one of the crafts is like decorating headbands for my daughter. And so she'll find that and she'll be able to do it. And then she can see, okay, there's three more days left of the trip because she can count how many treasures. So what I found is not only does it give her something that makes her excited when she's opening it in the morning, she can also call me and we can do it together. So it's interactive. then she can go do the craft which is fun and like works her brain and then she can also see like there's only three more days left so that's been really helpful she has like a little pink binder that we decorated together and towns has a little navy blue binder and that's been something that's really worked isabel showed me the whole breakdown of how she did this with her daughter and her daughter loves it too so that's been very effective if anyone wants to see that next question how do you protect your boredom?
41:49Lauryn Bosstick:Meaning some of the best ideas are from walking, driving in the shower, doing nothing, staring out the window.
41:56Michael Bosstick:I personally don't ever get bored. And I know that sounds strange, but I think the only reason you would become bored as a person, as an individual, is if you stop being curious. So for me, I have so many different interests, whether, you know, that's something I want to watch or it's something I want to learn about, or it's a book I want to read or it's a game I want to play or it's somebody I want to speak to.
42:17Lauryn Bosstick:Or a boob you want to grab. Yeah.
42:18Michael Bosstick:I mean, listen, and if you are feeling boredom, it's a moment to be introspective, in my opinion, to start thinking about your interests. I think boredom is a sign that you need to start thinking about how to get more interested in different things, in different hobbies, in different topics, whether that's going for a workout, getting active, if it's going to meet some friends, if it's going to read a book. There are so many things that we have at our fingertips now. We're not like our ancestors where you wake up in a rock hut somewhere and there's nothing to do. We have a million things to do from digital devices to outdoor activities, to places to go, to books to read, to things to watch.
42:56If you're bored, that's kind of on you.
43:01Lauryn Bosstick:I feel the same way about being bored. I can't remember the last time I was bored because there's so many things to read and do and see and sauna and cold and lay with a magazine. I'd love nothing more on a Saturday morning to take my big cup of coffee outside to my porch and read my magazine. That's like my favorite thing to do is read a magazine. So I don't feel bored, but I do feel that I, one of the most important things in my life to me is solitude. I have to have solitude to recharge. And sometimes that means sitting in the car a couple extra minutes.
43:39Michael Bosstick:Lauren and I, funny enough, and maybe this is, I think some people that know us know this, but we're actually both kind of like, um, loners and like to be away from people and like to be alone. And it's strange because of what we do for a living where we're talking to people and working with a lot of people and around a lot of people. But when we get time to ourselves, we both like to be alone. Sometimes that's together, but a lot of times it's like alone, alone.
44:03Lauryn Bosstick:But I think too, we like to be alone with each other too so I sometimes like to be alone with myself no so do I I went to dinner last night by myself don't get ahead of yourself don't get don't get stressed I went to a bar last night and sat and had chips and salsa and a margarita please come for no I did not yes I have the text message for two hours by myself and it was lovely but what I was saying is like you and I there's a lot of times where we're alone we can be together like you and I and just be like siloed.
44:35Michael Bosstick:No, but I'm going to be honest. We both like our alone time. And I think that's okay to watch your alone time, even if you're in a relationship, right? Like I think it's okay to be in solitude and think for yourself and relax by yourself and be introspective and journal and do whatever you want. I want to change my answer a little bit about the board thing. Cause I want, cause I realized that I do get bored, but when I do get bored, I quickly remove myself from the situation.
45:02Lauryn Bosstick:So again, Oh, so you're saying other people are boring you. No.
45:04Michael Bosstick:So what I'm saying is that one, if you do get bored, it's a moment to realize you're either in a boring situation and you need to make an adjustment or you need to get interested. But the last thing anyone wants is to be bored by either people or things or activities and stay in those situations. So I feel like you have a specific situation.
45:28Lauryn Bosstick:Well, I was just thinking
45:28Michael Bosstick:the other day I was like dying of of boredom in this interaction I was in and I had a vision of myself walking out of my body and like leaving and then I read this thing that like um Napoleon is that how it was to date you before me no I read this thing that Napoleon used to talk to people and if he got bored by small talk mid-conversation he would just walk away and I think I'm gonna start doing that I think I'm just you know like if you if you say hey how's the weather oh it's been rainy. I was like, what are we talking about? We know, we all know, we all have the app. Let's just move along.
46:00Michael Bosstick:Let's just save ourselves the time.
46:02Lauryn Bosstick:What are some rituals that you do during your free time?
46:05Michael Bosstick:Rituals. So, okay. I get in my head way too much. I could get like stuck in there. I like, feels like sometimes I'm like slamming drawers and doors and compartments trying to like thinking about too many things in a non-organized way. So one of the first things I do whenever I get some time alone, if I can, is I sit down and I start writing and I just write whatever's in my head. I write this. I write that. I write like what I'm thinking about. I write why I'm thinking, why I think I'm thinking about it. I write, you know, I don't, I, there's not a formula to it, but I just have to get it out.
46:32Michael Bosstick:And then I can, then I read it for a second. So I do that. I read a lot. I jumped from like newspapers to articles, to books.
46:42Lauryn Bosstick:You're reading Prince of Tides right now.
46:44Michael Bosstick:Reading the Prince of Tides right now. And I'm also reading a book called The Jaguar. It's by this Italian author that basically he wrote it and then he died and it didn't get published and he left his heirs to publish it and it's really good it's the only book he ever wrote we also take walks a lot we take a lot of walks take a lot of walks um but I don't know you know like I when I have free time I try to enjoy myself I try to be off my phone I try to find things to do like whether it's video games or tennis or going to work out or swimming or being with the kids.
47:19Lauryn Bosstick:Last Sunday, we went over to Weston's and we did a cold plunge sauna and took an hour and a half and it was lovely.
47:24Michael Bosstick:And then I swam all day with the kids. So I do stuff like that.
47:26Lauryn Bosstick:Yeah. We do family movie night.
47:28Michael Bosstick:Family movie night.
47:29Lauryn Bosstick:Once a week where the kids get to switch off.
47:32Michael Bosstick:We have a bunch of like rapid fire questions.
47:35Lauryn Bosstick:Let's do it.
47:35Michael Bosstick:People want to know how you think about packing for a trip like what you at this point are bringing and not bringing and what's a non-negotiable and what you what you're doing and not doing i think i'm doing a good job lately
47:50Lauryn Bosstick:you're doing a lot better job now huge improvement well let me let me know okay go to it and then
47:55Michael Bosstick:tell me what you think you're doing wrong because i think there's the lesson in there so here's
47:58Lauryn Bosstick:the first thing i pick a color palette this has been so helpful so on the next trip i'm going on my color palette is blue, butter yellow, pops of red, a lot of white, and maybe like one or two fun outfits. Okay. And I want it to be a color story when it's hanging on a rack. So this is a Lauren Bostic tip that Michael has taken from me. I bought a rack off Amazon. It's a silver rack. we can link it for you. And it's changed the way I pack. So what I do is I start conceptualizing my color palette and then I'll pull things from my closet slowly over a week and I'll hang it on my rack downstairs and I'll start looking at the flow of the colors.
48:47Lauryn Bosstick:And I want things to be interchangeable, right? So if I'm bringing a pair of white linen pants, I want to be able to wear it with a couple different outfits. If I'm bringing a baby blue shirt, I want to be able to wear it with a couple different outfits. And then that's where my stylist, Isabel, comes in. I'll take pictures of what I like and what my vibe is. And then she'll help me put outfits together. And sometimes that means she's sending things for me to add in. Sometimes it means she's mixing and matching things. And then she'll give me a picture of how to wear each outfit. And I'll print it out and put it in a folder so I can quickly see.
49:22Lauryn Bosstick:That includes accessories, sunglasses, what nail polish I'm wearing, what phone case I have. And listen, anyone who's listening can do this all for free on ChatGPT. So you should take your pictures of your clothes, put it through ChatGPT and make outfits so you're ready to rock. And then every single time I pack, I always leave room for a huge fluffy blanket. I will not go on a trip without my blanket. And then I have a list of things that I have to bring like the skinny confidential mouth tape, my ice roller, my Kindle, my chargers. And then the other thing, and I've learned this over time, is I just bought these little containers off Amazon that are in butter yellow and blue, keeping the thing.
50:05Lauryn Bosstick:The packing cubes? No. They're things to hold my shampoo, my conditioner, my oil cleanser, so I don't have to bring the whole thing with me. And I'll organize that really nicely. And then I also will have my packing cubes be themed. So if my kids are coming, they each have a different color packing cube. Zaz is pink, Towns is navy blue, and Bond is olive green. And so I know exactly where each of their clothes is. But for me on this trip, I did baby blue packing cubes, and then I'll do butter yellow for the cosmetics. So it's all organized.
50:40Michael Bosstick:Well, nobody's going to tell anyone this besides me. Maybe they'll tell. It is uncultured and it looks foolish when you show up to a hotel with 18 bags for a few days trip. Immediately, everyone there is judging you like you're a fool. A snob's guide to travel. And you shouldn't do it. So again, everyone's like, I think some people, depending on who you're talking to, they take the overpacking with 19 bags as like a badge of honor, but it's not practical. So I think what people do sometimes is one, they don't know where they're going. Again, they don't have a plan. So they pack 18 different outfits and see what happens.
51:15Michael Bosstick:Again, I don't like that strategy. Or they assume that they're going to have like a morning look, a day look and an evening look every single day. So they need like 21 different looks. But when you're on vacation, you should be able to mix and match things. You should have a couple of pants, a couple of tops, a couple of shirts, things that you can wear together. You don't need to be psychotic at packing.
51:34Lauryn Bosstick:You have a list like I've never seen.
51:36Michael Bosstick:Because I don't want to be stressed about loading everything in and out of a bag. And I also think that it's not cultured to go and show up with 19 different suitcases that are exploding from the seams.
51:48Lauryn Bosstick:And let me also give another tip. You got to bring a steamer. We bring a steamer when we travel so we can make sure there's no wrinkles in the clothes. We also are really into garment bags right now. The other thing is, is I like to bring a hard luggage carry-on. My friend Marisol taught me this. And I like to put my valuables in there. and then I carry on and then I like to bring a big tote bag not a nice bag and I like to put the bags that I'm wearing in the trip in the tote bag so I'm not so I'm not using my nice purse to travel does that make sense yes it doesn't make sense it's like a tote like a farmer's market tote bag but it's covering your stuff my stuff quick break to talk about the chili pad 2.0 I
52:35Michael Bosstick:love this product. I recently just shared about it on my Instagram stories. Here's the thing. When you share a bed with someone, sleep becomes a team sport and not always a cooperative one, especially in our house. When one of you runs hot like I do and one of you runs cold like my wife does, you've tried every combination of blankets, fans, and thermostat settings and someone is always losing. Typically that's me, it may be you. And when you're someone who takes their health seriously like we do, bad sleep isn't just uncomfortable, it's a performance issue. Your hormones, your recovery, your cognitive output, your mood, everything is downstream to how well you sleep.
53:06Michael Bosstick:That's exactly why we love the ChiliPad 2.0. It's become a non-negotiable part of our sleep setup. Here's what it is. It's a water-based mattress topper that actively controls the temperature of your bed from 55 to 115 degrees all night long. It works on top of your existing mattress so you don't have to change anything or get rid of your bed. You just add it on like a top cover. It comes with this dock that's a new quieter dock in the 2.0 with a larger internal water tank and a performance cover. So check them out. We've got an incredible offer for our listeners and viewers. Visit www.sleep.me slash skinny to get your ChiliPad and save up to$255 off a new ChiliPad 2.0 with code skinny.
53:42Michael Bosstick:This special offer is available for the Boss 6 listeners and only for a limited time. Order today with free shipping and try it out for 30 days. You can return it for free if you don't like it with their sleep trial. Visit www.sleep.me slash skinny and calm your racing mind with ChiliPad's cool sleep technology. You invest in each other and you invest in your health. Your sleep deserves the same commitment. Quick break to talk about branch basics. This is something Lauren and I cannot live without now. We use it at the home. We use it in the office. We even take it when we're traveling or send it to wherever we're traveling.
54:13Michael Bosstick:That's because we want a clean space, but we don't want any of the harmful chemical hormone disrupting cleaning supplies that most places use. Here's the thing. If you're someone who pays attention to what your family's eating, what's going on in their skin, what's in your environment, you probably also care about the ingredients in your cleaning products, or at least you should. Conventional cleaning products contain things linked to hormone disruption, skin sensitivity, and respiratory irritation with repeated exposure, even when they're earmarked to feel safe or natural. We had the founder of Branch Basics on this podcast twice talking about all the things that cleaning supply companies use in their cleaning supplies that cause harm.
54:45Michael Bosstick:You don't have to worry about this with Branch Basics because Branch Basics is made from plant and mineral-based ingredients, and Branch Basics is human-safe and fragrance-free, making it perfect for families, especially those with babies, kids, or pets, which is us and many of you. And here's the good news. Branch Basics is now available everywhere you shop at Target, Target.com, Amazon, and of course, BranchBasics.com. Tossing the toxins has never been more convenient for anyone grabbing the premium starter kit. You can still get 15 % off at BranchBasics.com with our code SKINNY. The premium starter kit comes with the concentrate and refillable bottles for your surface cleaners, including all-purpose bathroom, streak-free, foaming, hand wash, and laundry.
55:20Michael Bosstick:It also comes with oxygen boost for extra stubborn stains on pots and pans, laundry, bathroom tile, and more. This kit is a great way to kickstart your human safe cleaning routine. Just use code skinny for 15 % off their premium starter kit at branchbasics.com. After you purchase when they ask where you heard about them, please make sure to mention our show. I take my sleep so seriously.
55:40Lauryn Bosstick:I love my bed, my room. It's a place to detox. I think of everything when it comes to my sleeping space. I have red light. I have my frequencies going. I like fresh air. I want the shades to go up in the morning at seven o 'clock. I just want to feel really supported while sleeping. And one of those things that I do are sheets. I want my sheets breathable, 100 % organic cotton, and I want airflow. So enter Bull and Branch's summer bedding options. Let me put you on to their signature sheet set. It'll change your life. A softer feel, still breathable, and temperature regulated. For listeners who want comfort without crispness, this is for you.
56:24Lauryn Bosstick:They also have a waffle bed blanket that I have in white that's really lightweight, breathable, cloud soft. I lay that on my bed too. And then the signature sheet set, thought of everything because it's 100 % organic cotton and you can't go wrong with that. So unlike synthetic cooling technology or chemically treated fabrics, the cooling in Bull & Branch's sheets is structural. It's literally how the cotton is woven, which is awesome. 94 % of Bull & Branch customers, including me, say their sheets get softer with every wash, which we want. Sleep cooler this summer with Bull & Branch. Get 15 % off your first order plus free shipping at bullandbranch.com slash skinny with code skinny.
57:02Lauryn Bosstick:That's BullandBranch, B-O-L-L-A-N-D, branch.com slash skinny. Code skinny to unlock 15 % off. BullandBranch.com slash skinny and code skinny. Exclusions apply. Does my skin look tight? I hope it does because I am wearing caffeinated sunscreen. It makes such a difference, okay, when you're applying makeup to have a caffeinated sunscreen on. This one tightens my skin, my pores, and it gives me a really nice like layer to put on foundation. I also like how the caffeine gives you like a slight tint. It's so beautiful, so nice. I just went on vacation. We were in Turks and I was using this sunscreen the entire trip and I didn't even have to wear makeup because the caffeine just gives you such a pretty subtle, tight tinted glow.
57:49Lauryn Bosstick:It's just everything you want in a sunscreen. How I apply it is I use a beauty blender and I get the beauty blender a little bit wet. And then I take the sunscreen and I put it on the beauty blender and I like tap it on my skin. And then I just brush up my brows. I brought the brow peptide here and I'm good to go after a swipe of lip gloss. That's all I need for vacation. But I also honestly like the Skinny Confidential Caffeinated Sunscreen just under foundation as a primer. I use it all the time for that. So if you're looking for a great SPF that lays nice under your makeup, something with a little tint, you have to check out the Skinny Confidential's Caffeinated Sunscreen.
58:26Lauryn Bosstick:It is 33 % off right now. I would get two since it's summer and definitely grab the brow peptide while you're on the site. And like I said, just add some nice lip gloss and you are good to go. It will upgrade your sunscreen routine and you'll get protection while you're looking all glowy and dewy. Go to ShopSkinnyConfidential.com and stock the products. That's ShopSkinnyConfidential.com.
58:49Michael Bosstick:The best suitcase for anyone wondering that wants to travel and have the most efficient space, and it doesn't seem like this when you look at it, is the Toomey Alpha Long Trip Garment Bag, I believe. But look it up. It's by Toomey, and you have to buy four Toomey-specific hangers separately. What you do is you can hang multiple pants, multiple shirts, and a jacket on each of those, and then they have these travel pants, and then they have an area for the shoes and an outside area with these packing cubes. that thing I've looked at a lot of suitcases can hold more and also organize more things easily also when you bring it on these hangers you get to a place you're going all you do is just take it out of your bag and hang the hangers up and you're done you don't have to like unload everything
59:29Lauryn Bosstick:by the way another thing we do when we travel is the second we get there we unload everything we hang everything we put away our supplements all organized that's another reason you don't
59:38Michael Bosstick:want 18 different things because or 20 because you can't then you get organized you can use the room you can have space you don't have bags laying all over the floor exploded everywhere again yuck
59:47Lauryn Bosstick:This is rapid fire.
59:48Michael Bosstick:Okay, rapid fire.
59:49Lauryn Bosstick:How do you feel about nightclubs?
59:52Michael Bosstick:Now or years ago?
59:54Lauryn Bosstick:For your free time.
59:55Michael Bosstick:Well, listen, nightclubs are historically for hunting, going out, meeting people. I don't see the point in being a dad of three small children who's married standing in a nightclub listening to music where I can't speak to anyone. But there was a time and place when definitely, like, I would have had the exact opposite answer. I think it depends what stage of life you're in.
1:00:16Lauryn Bosstick:Do you want to know a fun fact about me? I never liked a nightclub. Ever.
1:00:21Michael Bosstick:Good for you.
1:00:22Lauryn Bosstick:I'm not saying that's... I just don't... I'll tell you why I don't like it. I like... When I go out, I want to engage with people and hear them talk. And when the music is so loud where you can't hear them talk and you're screaming, I don't get the point.
1:00:37Michael Bosstick:I don't go to nightclubs anymore if that's what you're asking. Okay. I don't really go out at night so much anymore either, if you're wondering.
1:00:44Lauryn Bosstick:You're in bed at 7.30.
1:00:45Michael Bosstick:It depends. I have to be with the group if I'm going to a dinner or doing things. But no, I mean, listen, what do you think everybody would think if they saw me like running around at 1.30 at night in a nightclub without my wife and children? It's a little bit of a red flag, right?
1:01:00Lauryn Bosstick:What's your go-to cocktail order in your free time?
1:01:02Michael Bosstick:I like a Negroni. I like an old-fashioned. I like one margarita and then switch to tequila soda or tequila on the rocks. I like a gin and tonic in a big wine goblet, depending on if I'm late at night. but those are like my, I like the classic cocktails. I don't like sugary drinks.
1:01:19Lauryn Bosstick:I have three drinks.
1:01:20Michael Bosstick:What are your drinks?
1:01:21Lauryn Bosstick:The first one is a margarita shaken freezing cold. I want to see ice on the top with no sweetener, a fucking speck of agave, a little bit of Cointreau, fresh lime juice, and a good tequila. The other one I like is, to your point, I like a gin tonic with grapefruit and a huge goblet, thanks to my friend Marisol. That's a great drink and doesn't get you hung over.
1:01:44Michael Bosstick:I also like a gin martini up with a twist. Not too much twist though, just a little bit.
1:01:48Lauryn Bosstick:12 drinks. And then the last one that I like that is a go-to lately is I love a really great red wine.
1:01:57Michael Bosstick:That's the other thing I want to clarify actually while we're on the topic of alcohol and I'll even throw in cigars is I think sometimes people have, especially if they're new to us. They have this notion that we like are all about wellness. Lauren and I are definitely the 80-20 model. Like we're 80 % wellness. And the 20 is let it rip. And the 20 is let it rip. I mean, I am, I will drink many people under the table. I do not count my drinks. I heard Andrew Huberman say, if you have more than two drinks a week when you're out, then like you're like going to die. I mean that's like my that's like my brunch warm-up if I'm going after it that's like that's just like the the opening act that we like to have fun um yeah so I mean we will get after it with friends I um for my friends in Maha that are hiding from alcohol and you know not staying up past 8 30 at night I am not going to those dinners I am not participating I will be the only one we're traveling and having free time I will drink for the whole table and um I don't care who knows it.
1:03:02Michael Bosstick:I like to have some fun. We like to live. When we're out and we're with our friends and we're going, we like to go. We come from a different generation.
1:03:09Lauryn Bosstick:I can drink with the boys.
1:03:10Michael Bosstick:Lauren can drink with the boys. But anyways, jokes aside, I think like, listen, alcohol obviously could be harmful for some people. You have to watch out and not overdo it, all the disclaimers. But also like when I look back on all the fun times I've had in my life and the experiences and time with friends, like a lot of times there's alcohol involved. And again, we're not going overboard, but we're having fun. I'm not going to sit there and say, oh God, my sleep score, my whoops, that's not us. So I want that out there. Also, I will enjoy a cigar. People, I saw somebody message me. They were mad that I was talking about nicotine.
1:03:41Michael Bosstick:I've loved nicotine since I even discovered it. I used to smoke cigarettes. Don't do that anymore. It's not good. But I will have a great cigar after drinks with people any day of the week. Love a good cigar. The point is we like to have fun. We like to enjoy. It's not just all business. It's fun too.
1:03:56Lauryn Bosstick:So last and final question, what is one thing you cannot live without when it comes to travel?
1:04:02Michael Bosstick:A solid itinerary with a plan. If you invite me anywhere and you say, oh, just show up. It'll be fine. I'm not going. I don't want to know. I don't want to get there. I don't want to be.
1:04:12Lauryn Bosstick:You want an itinerary.
1:04:13Michael Bosstick:I want to know what's going on. I want to know where I'm going. I call it the control freak in me. I don't want to sit there and be like, you know, you have these friends. They're so sure of themselves. Like, oh, when we get there, it'll be fine. We'll get a table. They never get a table. and by the way they get the table and it's the one that gets smashed in the back by the kitchen door nope I will ask you to move me I do not want to stand by the kitchen door I also don't want to stand by the bar back station I do not want to be in a shadowy part of the room depending on what room it is is that rude I'm one of those guys that will say like I need if you sit me at a table I don't like it I will no we're not but by the way after you move me I will grease you Carson I will grease them I always give a grease so I'm not just a pan I will be like I understand that I'm being a pain in the ass.
1:04:55Michael Bosstick:Here's a grease.
1:04:56Lauryn Bosstick:My travel, there's three mouth tape, Kindle, and blanket. Don't mess with the blanket. He tries to get the blanket out of my luggage every time it's not coming out. And I'm going to also link the blanket that I like. It's a non-toxic blanket right now. That's incredible. I'm going to put it in the show notes.
1:05:17Michael Bosstick:I think a lot of people, like they wear this like easygoing thing as a badge of honor. I respect the people that are like particular and specific. Do you think I'm easygoing? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think you moonlight and pretend you're easygoing and like you portray that, but you are not easygoing. Sure. You are. If, if Lauren gets in a cab or a car or an Uber and they have one of those trees, she hangs her head out the window, like the Joker in the dark night.
1:05:44Lauryn Bosstick:That's I'm, I'm not easygoing when it comes to smells.
1:05:47Michael Bosstick:It'll be seven degrees outside and she'll be hanging out like Heath Ledger in the Joker.
1:05:51Lauryn Bosstick:I don't like when people project their scent onto me.
1:05:54Michael Bosstick:She will call down to hotels and tell them to not clean and only use. It's a whole thing. No, I call down and I say, hello, please can you just use water when you're cleaning? I have another travel hack for people actually. And everybody probably, a lot of people know this, but if you don't, it's a good one. again if you don't want to overpack and you're going to a place you can go on amazon you can type in the address to the hotel you can write that address and then in the for who it's from you can write care of guest and then your name and when you're going places you can have stuff sent there so for example hotel waters i know this sounds great i am fiscally responsible sometimes you know who wants to pay nine dollars for a bottle of water in these hotels 13 some of these places.
1:06:40Michael Bosstick:So we will ship cases of water from Amazon. We will ship baby supplies.
1:06:44Lauryn Bosstick:Gotta get our loon and water. Yeah.
1:06:45Michael Bosstick:We will ship our supplements. We will ship protein. We will ship stuff from Amazon. We get there. The hotel will hold it for you and then you can open it in your room and you have all this stuff that you need without having to pack it. It's a good hack.
1:06:55Lauryn Bosstick:Free time, travel tips, itineraries galore.
1:06:59Michael Bosstick:It's summer. Hopefully we didn't have this episode come out too late. People have already planned their travel, but if you're getting ready to travel and some are still here, you still have time. Call that hotel concierge, get that itinerary going, book something don't overpack and look like an uncultured slob it's important grease people make
1:07:14Lauryn Bosstick:sure you're greasing everyone can watch this episode on youtube they can see our new fresh lighting that carson emily nick and i have spent a lot of time on we appreciate you guys listening and let us know what you want to hear next on our bostick solo and greasing means tip hopefully
1:07:32Michael Bosstick:tipping the person i just want to clarify that just in case except unless it's me yeah unless It's Lauren and it's different Greece. All right, guys, these are fun. Goodbye.
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