The Bossticks On What 10 Years Of Our Show Taught Us

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20:09Lauryn Bosstick:That's bullandbranch, B-O-L-L-A-N-D, branch.com slash skinny. Code skinny to unlock 20 % off. Exclusions apply. See site for details. The other day, I found the cutest sweater ever. It's like striped. It's Bernelo. It's beautiful. It's cashmere. And I found it for half off on the real real. I like to shop smart and there is so many good brands, like amazing brands, brands you love on the RealReal. Gucci, Fendi, Prada. They have Tiffany & Co., Brunello, all the brands. And so many of them are up to 90 % off retail. This sweater that I got is so major. It came brand new with the tags. I literally was blown away.

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21:33Lauryn Bosstick:Let me tell you, I do a lot of my shopping there. The RealReal is the most trusted name in authenticated luxury resale. With over 10 ,000 new arrivals daily, no one does resale like The RealReal. And now you get$25 off your first purchase when you go to therealreal.com slash skinny. That's therealreal.com slash skinny to get$25 off. Start shopping now at therealreal.com slash skinny. One of the biggest things for me over the last decade has been observing how interesting people are interested and they're curious. And to me, that means for my own life, that means reading. I read for an hour or sometimes two hours a day.

22:16Lauryn Bosstick:And it's a habit stack. And I know when I'm doing it and I have it ingrained in my calendar. And I have had all different ups, downs, ebbs, flows, kids, no kids, and I still commit to reading an hour or two a day. And I think that that has allowed me to stay curious. I obviously am not perfect. It's just something that I've picked up, this tip to stay interested that I think has really been amazing when it comes to compounding. If you read 30 minutes a day, just adding that to your calendar will make such a big difference in the long term. So how else can you stay curious? You could read the newspaper.

22:52Lauryn Bosstick:Some people like to watch the news. That's not my jam, but some people love the news. But just like staying... Why'd you side eye at me? Just like staying genuinely curious about other people and acknowledging other people. I think even when you get in an Uber, just being interested in other people, getting outside yourself. It's such an important takeaway. way.

23:15Michael Bosstick:And let's be honest, we've had a lot of on paper, very successful people come on this show. And I think like there's a lot, there's a lot of that. But what Lauren and I have noticed, the next level of successful people, the 10 % that come on here that are, that have reached that, I would say upper echelon of success. What we've observed to be the differentiator is there is a genuine curiosity and interest, like Lauren said, from those extra 10%. Take someone like Tony Robbins. He's probably one of the most successful people we've had on this show. We found out before he came on this show that he spent an hour or two researching everything about Lauren and I.

23:54Lauryn Bosstick:He knew my chihuahua's name.

23:55Michael Bosstick:Yeah, our pets, our children, who we were, what our business were. He doesn't need to do that. He's already made it. He's at the top level. When we sat with him, it was not just us asking questions off air and before the show. He's asking us. He wants to know. There's a hunger and a curiosity that someone like that has. And again, on paper, Tony Robbins has already made it to the upper echelons, but someone like that still stays curious and hungry. And I think that's the differentiator when you see someone who's successful versus uber successful is they're curious and they're interested in other people.

24:24Lauryn Bosstick:I also think that there is also people who come in that are not at the level of extraordinary, that are not on time, that are not prepared, that barely know what show they're on. And it's so interesting to me how Tony Robbins is one of the most extraordinary people in the world, yet he still has the time and still makes the effort to prep for what he's doing. That to me is mind-blowing. It's like never get too comfortable with your success. Constantly push back. I think it'd be funny to share some moments off air with the audience that have happened over the last 10 years.

25:00Michael Bosstick:Like, I mean, there's a lot of things that have happened.

25:03Lauryn Bosstick:There's been fights.

25:04Michael Bosstick:A lot of fights.

25:05Lauryn Bosstick:There's been water thrown at you.

25:07Michael Bosstick:Been a lot of stuff. Carson's seen. He's got all the, he's got the blooper reel. He's got the tapes. Taylor's got even more. I told Taylor to go and smash hard drives with a hammer.

25:15Lauryn Bosstick:There's been fights at home because Michael comes to me and needs something for the show. It's definitely hasn't been all fun times. It's been, it's been work behind the scenes and it's tested our marriage. And I think that that's important to be honest about too.

25:31Michael Bosstick:There's more things that I wish we've shown. And again, we just didn't have the team or the infrastructure in a lot of the early days. But in the early days, Lauren and I were, you know, editing everything ourselves. We were selling everything. We were traveling. We would carry these suitcases, maybe some of the early viewers and listeners, with equipment and wires and all this stuff. And it was hard, right? Like, I actually believe that if we tried to do that now with three children, I don't think we could have done what we did because we were grueling and like pushing and on planes everywhere.

26:00Michael Bosstick:And unfortunately, at the time, people wouldn't show up to this fancy studio and they wouldn't travel to us. We had to go to them and we still do sometimes. But there's been a lot of messy moments where work bleeds over into our life. It bleeds over into our relationship. It is, you know, inescapable at times. It feels like at times we both work for each other.

26:23Lauryn Bosstick:You do work for me.

26:25Michael Bosstick:Well, that's good. Do you work for me? I mean, listen, it took me 10 years again to escape that bright pink. I want to even, I mean, any guy that could stick through, you know, I've been out there doing this for a long time, Carson, and I've been a good sport. But, you know, again, it's time. So, no, I mean, we've talked about this for years, working with your significant other, your person you're married to, the person you sleep with every night. It is not for the faint of heart. We've had to really work on a relationship. And I think this show has actually, looking back, been like couples therapy for us.

26:58Lauryn Bosstick:It has been like couples therapy because we've gotten to interview so many interesting different people and some of them are therapists and some are doctors and some are experts. I also think that the show energetically, and I'm going to give you a compliment, has really opened you up. Of course. Meaning like I think you're a little woo-woo now.

27:15Michael Bosstick:Well, that's a good note. I mean. Are you woo-woo? I'm pretty woo-woo. Admit it. Yeah, I'm pretty woo-woo. We say things on this show. Like, listen, everybody. We are so lucky that we get to have these conversations directly with people, but our hope has always been that these conversations are a conduit to whoever's listening or viewing on the other side. And what I always remind everyone is Lauren and I are learning at the same time as all of you from these incredible people. We may get to have the conversation in person and release it and then hold it before we release a little bit earlier, but we're learning a lot.

27:46Michael Bosstick:And picking on someone like Arthur Brooks, who I thought was a great episode, he's saying some things about what couples need to do in a relationship that both her and I know we need to be better at. And so indirectly, like I said, we're getting therapy and learning at the same time. Sometimes I do a pinch under the table, like a little reminder, a little pinch. I think right now you have old like eggs under the table. Lauren brings scrambled eggs with sauce and puts them under during the whole recording. At least I'm getting my protein. The things that I survived through.

28:14Lauryn Bosstick:Another thing that has resonated with me over the last 10 years is you can feel feel when someone is aligned with who they are. The most magnetic, dynamic, charismatic guests that come on this show have stopped trying to be someone else. They are showing up as themselves and they are in alignment and harmony. And we have had some very, very, very famous people on this show. And sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes the most famous are the most insecure.

28:47Michael Bosstick:Oh, our booking agent's never going to book anyone on the show again.

28:49Lauryn Bosstick:That's been interesting to observe. It's just, you know, you would think that just because someone has so much fame or beauty or talent that they are so secure with themselves. And that is not always the case. Now, I'm not saying that about everyone. I will say like Paris Hilton is so in alignment. I loved Paris Hilton. She just is who she is. So she was like such she was such she exceeded every expectation I ever had. But there's also a lot of guests that come in, you guys that are, you know, not the most secure and you can feel when someone's not aligned. And that's been so interesting for me as a study in human nature to be able to go out into the world and speak at conferences and meet people and even just live in my daily life.

29:31Lauryn Bosstick:I am able to feel immediately when someone's not aligned.

29:35Michael Bosstick:Well, it dovetails into another thing that I think I wanted to talk about. What is a dovetail? Dovetails, it means it goes nicely into this. It's a nice transition. Love it. Obviously, you need to learn a few more things on the show. But it dovetails nicely into another thing I wanted to share and talk about, which is doing this show over the last decade, and not just this show in isolation, but observing the last decade in media has been very interesting. Again, go back to a 2016 world, pre-COVID, a lot of traditional media, a lot less podcasts, a lot less of these conversations, people being much more careful about what they would share or not share.

30:16Michael Bosstick:there's a lot of people that come from those legacy media days that had to have a certain polish and a certain candor and behave a certain way and say certain things. When Lauren and I started doing this, we had no media training and no idea what we were doing as media personalities. And so our only real strategy was, okay, we're just going to share ideas our way as ourselves and hopefully it works. Well, after observing not only the success of this show, but a ton of other people that have now entered the space and create their own shows and running Dear Media, what I've observed is the people that are authentically themselves without fear of being themselves have the most success standing out online.

30:56Michael Bosstick:The people that struggle the most and continue to try to struggle to be relevant are the ones that have looked at an old blueprint or they look at somebody else and they try to emulate or be something they're not. It doesn't work. I can tell you that not only from this, but running a company like Dear Media, where those kinds of people get washed out and the people that are really themselves stay in. And we've seen an entire shift in the last 10 years on conversations, in content, on relevant media channels. You see a decline in traditional media, a distrust in those outlets. And there's a lot of great people and a lot of great journalists and a lot of great people that are pushing content.

31:31Michael Bosstick:But what I think this has proven to us is you can take a non-traditional talent and a non-traditional media outlet and become highly relevant and maybe displace some of the old guard and the old way of doing things. I also think you build a certain trust with an audience that you know is displaceable. And listen, Lauren and I know that we are not for everybody and that we sometimes say things where we misstep or upset people, but we feel good at night when we talk to each other, knowing that like, we're just being ourselves. There is no polish. There's no, there's no curation. There's no, Hey, are they going to, how's this going to play or not play?

32:03Michael Bosstick:We have guests that think one way and then think the opposite way. We have people that are popular. We have people that are unpopular. And what we realize is you just got to be yourself. And I think that that's great advice for anyone looking to build any kind of online platform or business. And it's what we've seen not only here, but running a large media company where others do the same thing.

32:23Lauryn Bosstick:I feel in my life, I'm the happiest that I've ever been in my life. I feel so aligned and I think that this rebrand is very harmonious with everything going forward and I hope it feels this way for the audience. Okay, next. Attention is your most valuable currency that you have and it's so important to use it wisely. I take an inventory of my attention every single night that I lay my head on the pillow. I'm like, where did I put my attention today? Was I scrolling? Was I distracted? Was I watching other people's Instagram stories? I like to be so thoughtful with where my attention's going. And what helps me the most is, and you guys know this, is living and eating and breathing and dying by my calendar.

33:09Lauryn Bosstick:And in my calendar, there's a lot of white space. There's writing space. There's time blocks for creativity. There's time blocks for my kids. I just really like to know where my attention is going. And I think if you're looking for a place to start and you're feeling overwhelmed with all the content online, a really good place to start is to take inventory of your attention. Who are you following? I like to star the accounts that I'm following in my Instagram. I don't get fed anything other than what I want to see.

33:37Michael Bosstick:Is starring favoriting them?

33:38Lauryn Bosstick:Yeah, I favorite it. And I have five accounts that I look at. One of them is like Law of Attraction. I have Robert Green in there. I have Louise Hay.

33:46Michael Bosstick:What are you trying to attract at this point? Who are you trying to attract?

33:48Lauryn Bosstick:Dr. Wayne Dyer. It's about attracting things in the universe that I want. It's my vision. I'm really focused on my vision right now. And I would tell you this, if you open your Instagram and you go to the For You page and it's all low vibrational things, that is because that's the content you're consuming.

34:12Michael Bosstick:Well, that's another good. Gary V, who's a friend and who's been so nice to us over the years, came on the show and he basically did this whole, you guys should check it out, where he talked about why your algorithm is the way it is. And it was an aha moment for Lauren to realize if your algorithm is serving you terrible, negative things, it's because that's what you're seeking out. So you can, you know, I like looking at cars and I like looking at travel.

34:32Lauryn Bosstick:I love looking at your For You page. Your For You page, Michael's For You page is watches, travel, cars, and chihuahuas because I programmed chihuahuas in there.

34:41Michael Bosstick:Your For You page is like - You can go, listen, I don't want to blow anybody out, but if you're in a relationship and you want to see what your significant other is doing and spending time on, open their For You page and it'll give you basically an indication of what they're looking at.

34:54Lauryn Bosstick:And how do I know this? Why do I know this? Because I had Taylor, our producer, open his For You page and there was butthole all over the For You page. There was thong underwear. There was people twerking. It's like you cannot find a better place to get a true self-aware reflection

35:13Michael Bosstick:every guy every guy is sweating right now every girl yeah because this is a real hot tip and i didn't say guys i didn't blow you up actually i kind of did but lauren go look at what their

35:22Lauryn Bosstick:for you page that'll tell you everything you need to know i like on my for you page non-toxic finds i like high vibrational content i want tips tactics i'm obsessed with naval i've talked about him so many times all naval i want everywhere and i think like you have to think about it you're looking at that for at least a minute or two or three or four a day, that is again, compounding over time. So attention is your most valuable currency. Make sure you use it wisely. Well,

35:51Michael Bosstick:and here's another thing, another great dovetail. Oh my gosh. What's this dovetail? I don't know. I'm stuck on the word now. I'm going to change it after, but this is the last time. If I say it again, Carson, just edit it out. You have, again, a lot of high performers, a lot of happy people that come on the show and you have these conversations privately with them. They're not watching the news. They're not taking in negativity. They're disconnecting from things that are upsetting. It's not that they're unaware. Sometimes Lauren and I get labeled as being, we're aware of what's going on in the world, but constantly beating yourself up over the, beating yourself over the head with bad news and why things are going wrong and why the world's terrible.

36:29Michael Bosstick:High performers just don't do that. And what they tell us offline is that they're consuming positive content, positive books. They're going into old texts. They're hanging out with friends that are treating them well. What we've learned over the last 10 years is who you surround yourself with and what you consume is the trajectory your life's going to go in. So if you're constantly around bad people and consuming negative news and talking about how terrible things are, then that's what your reality is going to be. And so for us, we made a very intentional decision back in 2020 to largely get all of cable news out of the house and to try to read things that are uplifting.

37:01Michael Bosstick:Again, it doesn't mean we're disconnected and aren't aware what's going on in the world, but do we need to really look at every single tragedy that's happening? We had a guy named Morgan Housel come on the podcast. He wrote a great book called The Psychology is Money. And then I think the other one that I really enjoyed is called Same as Ever. Morgan, sorry if I didn't get that book right. But he talks about the fact that if you actually look at what's going on in the world, the world has actually gotten better from a statistical and a data standpoint. The problem is, is that we have more access than ever to information.

37:30Michael Bosstick:So in the old days, if you were to open your local newspaper, the chances of something bad happening in your community, not too high. If you open the worldwide news and you look for something that's going bad in the world, pretty much certain that something's going bad at any given moment in the world. If you focus on that constantly day after day after day, you're going to have a really glum look on the world. Let's take a quick break to talk about Ollie Dog Food. It is safe to say that people are absolutely obsessed with their dogs. 91 % of dog parents say their dog is an important member of the family and 40 % would even save their dog over a human stranger.

38:04Michael Bosstick:I know I would. Safe to say people are obsessed. I'm so obsessed that I even have three of my own biological actual children, but on the screensaver on my phone is my dog. If you have a dog, you get it. And if anyone gets being dog obsessed, it's Ollie. I love companies like this, companies that care about the pets that give us nothing but unconditional love. They are relentless about delivering the best food and experience for you and your dog, and they give you a way to check in on their health over and over again. And that's because Ollie provides fresh recipes that are developed by real chefs and backed by vet nutritionists.

38:35Michael Bosstick:They're obsessed with making the best meals with the highest quality ingredients. We were interviewing Paris Hilton recently, and she has a bunch of dogs that have made it to really late stages in life. I was talking to her, asking how she was able to do this, how she's able to take such good care of her dogs. And it's because she feeds them real food. Not that stuff that just sits on shelves, but real food. And this is why we love Ollie so much. From the moment you start your subscription, everything is tailored to your pup. The meals are perfectly portioned and you get a pup tainer and scoop for easy storing and serving.

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39:36Lauryn Bosstick:I like to be very flattering when I work out, especially in the season of postpartum where I am still in the midst of losing 20 pounds. And let me tell you, the most flattering workout wear is Viore. Like I'm telling you, just go check out their pieces. I get them in black and they're just so good. They hold you in right. They're designed to look good beyond the gym. So I'll leave the gym. I'll go get a coffee. I'll get a cappuccino with whole milk. I'll maybe get some egg salad and I will be in the cutest little flattering outfit. I like to do monochromatic. I'll do fully black and then a black sweater over my shoulders.

40:13Lauryn Bosstick:It's so comfortable. They use this fabric called Dream Knit and it's so soft and buttery and premium. Everything's lightweight. It's relaxed. They've really thought of everything. They even have like four-way performance stretch. So it's great for stretching, lounging, working out. I like to lift weights, but then you can also wear it to get your cappuccino. This is not your average athletic gear. Okay. This is like a new, fresh perspective inspired by active California lifestyle. You will love Viore. I also am a fan of the baby blue. Okay. I know that's like a random color, but check that out.

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41:24Lauryn Bosstick:They have like sweet kale, Caesar, avocado ranch, Mediterranean crunch. I'll mix it into my beef or chicken bowl and I'll add maybe some like avocado or some chopped onion or I like raw jalapeno. Little bit of yummy dressing. It comes in the Taylor Farms chopped salad kit. I mix it up and I have a real party for myself because I am basically a cook, right? You should also know they have Mexican street corn. They have Asian. They have everything. So if you have like specific things that you like or don't like, they really have everything. So picky eaters, this is for you too. Anyway, I've been doing chicken a lot.

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43:18Lauryn Bosstick:Shop skinnyconfidential.com. I feel like you'll have something to say about this next one.

43:23Michael Bosstick:I also have something to say about everything.

43:26Lauryn Bosstick:Unbelievable. The people who change industries think differently about risk. and what I have found is you're not going to avoid being uncomfortable and you're not going to avoid risk but you can calculate it and it's been really cool to see so many people come on this show and talk about the massive risks that they have taken and the struggles that they've had to get to where they are that has been so inspiring to me because there's been so many guests have come on that have had roadblocks or they've survived something crazy or they've been a victim and they've really turned charcoal into a diamond.

44:08Lauryn Bosstick:And I'm a big believer that if you're clever enough, you can make anything shine like a diamond.

44:14Michael Bosstick:Like, you know, we've done a lot of these shows. We've talked to so many people. I cannot think of one person that has had immense success and happiness in their life that has come on and said, hey, it was just super easy and it it all just kind of fell in my lap and I didn't really have to struggle and I was always happy and nothing ever went wrong. It's usually a lot of struggle, a lot of heartache, a lot of pain, a lot of sacrifice. And then after all of that success. And then what they also reflect on and what we reflect on too is when you're successful, you don't really think about the success.

44:47Michael Bosstick:You think about all the struggle and that's what you appreciate. When I look back on the last decade of doing this, I think back on how Lauren and I struggled together, how our relationship got challenged, how we had to build things, how we had to sacrifice certain opportunities, how we had to be uncomfortable at times, how we had to take certain flacks at certain periods. Those are the things that I appreciate. I never think, oh, wow, we had a really good year and we had this income. We're like, oh, we got to buy this great material thing. It's the sacrifice. So again, what Lauren's saying is all of these people are stressing themselves out and it's always a struggle and it's always tough and nothing has ever fallen in these people's lap.

45:26Michael Bosstick:And that's a common theme that we've learned from people that many of us, including us, look up to and aspire to be, or at least aspire to emulate, is they've all gone through the shit.

45:36Lauryn Bosstick:I am also a very spiritual person and I've sort of like realized recently I've always been very spiritual and this show has really I think helped me double down on being spiritual and I think what I've learned from this show is that for me it's been very helpful to have a higher power and whatever that higher power is it could be anything to you whatever that means to you. But that's something that I think about every single day. It's something that I spend five to 10 minutes on, whether it's in meditation or on a walk. And I think that that's helped me get through any time that has been tough is having that higher power.

46:18Lauryn Bosstick:And this show has almost made me want to triple down on it, if you will, just by being able to talk to all of these different people with all of these different opinions. Because this show, like at the end of the day, there's no agenda here. It's just to have conversations with real people and hear their real story. And hopefully there's something that you guys can take away from the show. All right, Michael, what is your last one?

46:46Michael Bosstick:Well, here's the last one. And I think it is the most important. And I think it is the theme of this show. And I think it's what I hope everyone that listens or watches or continues to listen or watch takes away from it. Like I said, We have got to speak to so many people for so long. Some of these people we share ideals with and agree with. Some of them we disagree with. We live in a time, unfortunately, in the last few years where people decide to really set themselves in a silo. They pick one side of the aisle and they ignore the other or they pick that side and ignore the other. They live in a bubble where they only get information that makes them feel good and makes them feel happy.

47:22Michael Bosstick:They ignore other people with countering ideas or opinions. they discount those people, they demonize them, they attack them for their thoughts. Lauren and I pride ourselves in this show on just hearing people's thoughts and ideas and opinions and most importantly, why they came to those thoughts, opinions, ideas. And what we've realized over time doing this is most people, the majority of people have really good intentions, but they come to their conclusions based on their life circumstances, their upbringing, their parents, the people in their communities, and they end up forming their opinions largely with good intentions based on what they think is self-serving, the people they love, the people around them.

48:06Michael Bosstick:Again, most people we talk to on the show don't start out and say, I'm going to have this idea and I'm here to harm people. They sit in that opinion. So what we try to do to be well-rounded people and we hope we serve this audience is we have a lot of different people with a lot of different viewpoints on the show and they share their perspective and their ideas. we create a non-judgmental space and then we go home after and figure out, do we agree? Do we disagree? Do we apply? Do we not apply? Same thing we hope for the audience. Listening to counter ideas, taking them in in an unbiased way and then saying, okay, does that make sense or not?

48:38Michael Bosstick:Just shutting people out because you disagree is not the way.

48:41Lauryn Bosstick:Sometimes though, like you say, we go home and we figure out if we agree or disagree. I have to tell you, and I don't know or disagree. Sometimes I just sit in the conversation and let people have their opinion and like it doesn't have to affect me emotionally.

49:00Michael Bosstick:Yeah, well, that's another great takeaway. Sometimes you'll see things, especially with the way these shows get clipped up and taken out of context, and you feel like you have to take a stance.

49:08Lauryn Bosstick:I don't feel like I have to take a stance on everything. And I think that that is important to share because sometimes I'm interviewing someone and I'm actively listening, but it's almost like a car driving by me. I don't have to take on everyone's opinion or thought.

49:25Michael Bosstick:Or you can say like, say it's a really fucking wacky idea that you really disagree with. You can kind of just step back and kind of have a laugh about it later and be like, man, that was a wacky idea. It doesn't have to then become your identity.

49:36Lauryn Bosstick:I can't have it derail my day. Imagine you're at a dinner party and Uncle Cletus.

49:41Michael Bosstick:No, no, not Cletus.

49:42Lauryn Bosstick:No, Cletus, 100 % Cletus. Uncle Cletus has an opinion about the way of the world. You don't have to get on board with Uncle Cletus's opinion.

49:50Michael Bosstick:Well, imagine walking into a restaurant and every time you walk into the restaurant, you see someone that disagrees with you. You go, well, I'm not eating here. The food is supposed to be phenomenal. And so it is. The food is phenomenal, but someone over there disagrees with me and that hurts me. And so I'm leaving. I can't. We can't do that. So again, listen to people. We've learned more probably from the people we disagree with on this show than the people we agree with. If you're already in a bubble and you already have a bias, how are you learning something new? Challenge yourself, stretch your mind.

50:20Michael Bosstick:That's where opportunity is. That's how you grow.

50:21Lauryn Bosstick:With that, we feel the happiest and most aligned in our lives right now. And we're so excited to share the next decade with you guys as the Bostics. So follow us on Instagram at the Bostics. And we'll see you every single Monday and Thursday as usual.

50:40Michael Bosstick:Imagine this. It's just nice for me to be able to say my name. our name instead of being like, what do you do? Well, I host this show and it's called the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. And oh, by the way, it's a product and a beauty line. But then I run this company called Dear Media. And you know, have you seen that crazy diagram of Charlie Day where he's got all the diagrams and the lines? That's what I felt like for the last 10 years. So guys, it's the boss six.

51:04Lauryn Bosstick:But this is a live example of a work in progress. You know what my gravestone is going to say? What? Always refining.

51:11Michael Bosstick:And it'll be nice too, but people can show up now and they don't enough to ask us hey are you two married right because sometimes they do that hopefully they don't think we're brother and sister because we're not do we look like brother and sister i don't think so okay who would be the older sibling if we were you all right all right thanks for listening thank you guys tune in every week we'll be back