The Truth About Detoxing, Hidden Environmental Toxins, & Supporting Cell Longevity Ft. David Roberts & Dr. John Gildea Of Mara Labs

15:32Dr. John Gildea:Wow. I've never thought of that.

15:34Michael Bosstick:Do that in shift workers as well?

15:35David Roberts:Shift workers, yeah. With our company, we will never have a night shift ever because of that because it's so unhealthy.

15:43Dr. John Gildea:So you think that was one of the reasons?

15:44David Roberts:It's one of the reasons early on in, so the other, like another one is if the breast is mashed, that's known to cause.

15:58Dr. John Gildea:I'm like checking my bra because if the bra is too tight, because the lymphatic system isn't getting the circulation around the breast because it's too tight.

16:06Michael Bosstick:So the baby would be against the chest? No, honey, the bra. So it could be, it could be broad.

16:11David Roberts:It could be like, there's a study in England where women, um, actually got crushed. The rest got crushed through an accident with, uh, with the steering wheel and like a good amount of them unknowingly had like after they died, had breast cancer like years later. but Mara actually had she had mastitis when she was breastfeeding and had me work on it to kind of get it unplugged and so there was some mashing there and I think I mean John would agree with this he talked about two things but I think stress stress is a huge cause of cancer in fact you know no typically you're not born with cancer right and so you have it could be physical stress It could be emotional stress that play a part in expressing genes that would otherwise be hidden.

17:04But when you say that squishing the breast can cause breast cancer, my first thought goes to a mammogram.

17:13Dr. John Gildea:That's what a mammogram does. And your smile, and a lot of people smile when I ask this question. It's almost, they give me a look like I'll tell you off air.

17:21David Roberts:No, I'll tell you right now. I mean, you know, we could tank the episode, but yeah, a great alternative to that. So basically with mammogram, you're radiating, which causes cancer. You're crushing, which causes cancer. Okay. Just to get an image. You can get an image of your breast with an ultrasound. All you have to do is ask. And most people don't know that they can ask. And I guarantee you, they'll look at you like you have no idea. They have no idea what you're talking about.

17:50Dr. John Gildea:I already did. I asked.

17:51Michael Bosstick:Oh, I mean, there's been a full like article on this show when we had somebody on who said this very thing and she was in the middle.

17:58Dr. John Gildea:So when they look at you like you're crazy, what do you say?

18:01David Roberts:You say, no, I would like an ultrasound. I do not want a mammogram. And then they can keep it up and you keep it up and you win.

18:08Dr. John Gildea:Why do they continue to do mammograms if that's squishing the breast?

18:12Michael Bosstick:From a doctor's perspective, if you can say that from a factual basis that we know these, not a mammogram, but from a squishing and a radiation crit, why do we continue with those practices if another alternative exists that is effective?

18:28David Roberts:I mean, it's more, the ultrasound is pricier. And, you know, I think also like there is, you know, from a kind of a public health standpoint, there is a point where it may make sense even with the risks. But at a certain point, women could be in their 40s or certainly in the 50s. It does not make sense to do that anymore from a cost benefit. You get a benefit of the image, but there's a cost because of those two risks.

18:57Dr. John Gildea:Do you think it's a little bit like this is the way we've done it, so we're just going to keep doing it this way because this is the way we've done it?

19:05Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:And they do those balancing studies where, you know, risk versus prevention, you know, where you're promoting it by those two mechanisms. And a long time ago, I would say the data was much more clear because if you did 10 mammograms, then you cross that threshold. That's the general idea. And so for people that were really worried, they're doing it very often. And you cross that threshold and then it increases your chance of breast cancer. But I would say that the good news is that the amount of radiation going into a mammogram and the detectors have improved dramatically. And so now it's less.

19:44Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:So that's good. It's improving.

19:45Michael Bosstick:You know, I don't know if you guys saw the news with James Van Der Beek. He passed today. And he's been battling cancer, a young guy. I didn't know that.

19:52David Roberts:I saw that he passed it in a way.

19:54Michael Bosstick:Terrible. And what some people were saying is that nowadays they're starting to say for men, recommending getting colonoscopies or looking earlier. And I don't know, this is a new subject for me, but from what you've learned about cancer, do you agree with that? Do you think people should check earlier?

20:15Dr. John Gildea:Or should they do an ultrasound?

20:16Michael Bosstick:Lauren's of the mind sometimes like, oh, could that cause things? And I think, again, this is a topic that comes up all the time in private conversations, even on the show.

20:23Dr. John Gildea:It just seems like if something's dormant and you go and disrupt it and you move it around and you squish it and you move it and you manipulate it. That doesn't seem it seems like hitting a bee's nest.

20:33David Roberts:Yeah. I mean, if you, you know, if you don't want a colonoscopy, there are other ways to go about figuring out if you have colon cancer. You can have your feces examined now. And that's highly, highly accurate. You can do a blood test. now as well um the function function health blood tests they have a cancer option we've had dr mark

20:56Dr. John Gildea:on this on the show dr john what when you look back at your wife's journey was there things that

21:03Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:you think caused her breast cancer thing that comes to mind for me is um that there were there were quite a few things in her life that were very stressful including me and um so i take self-awareness yeah i take a little bit of credit there um but i would say that when when you're talking about all those things that you have to keep in in you know in mind in order to avoid it that wasn't on her mind so she taught at a prep school and ate um you know the food that they produced for the whole time before she had cancer. So that was 15 years or so, 17 years of, you know, that type of food where she didn't get to make a choice about her food choices.

21:52Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:And then stress on top of that, being a very go-getter type person, you know, she was, you know, top of her class and always go, go, go. There's a teacher as well, super stressful. So I I definitely agree with the stress component. And I think the connection to stress, a lot of people don't realize is how much downstream effect that has. Like stress releases cortisol, one of the many stress hormones. But then that raises blood glucose. So then your blood glucose ends up being a toxin. So your blood glucose being high causes these things called advanced glycation end products. And so you're doing the same thing that radiation would do.

22:39Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:It's randomly damaging things. And so that's why you want your insulin low. You want your blood glucose low. And especially at night before you go to bed. Because if you eat right before you go to bed, your blood glucose will go high. Melatonin turns off your insulin. And that high blood glucose just sits in your blood all night, glycating.

22:59Michael Bosstick:So it's another reason you don't want to eat close to bedtime.

23:01Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:Right.

23:02David Roberts:Or if you do take, I mean, because sometimes you can't help it, right? That's why we have a berberine product that specifically we're like take two at night because so it deals with in case you eat late. But berberine is also great for sleep. There's a paper how berberine outperforms Valium as a sleep aid.

23:20Dr. John Gildea:I also have heard that berberine has similarities to a GLP-1.

23:28David Roberts:yeah uh they uh the social media loves to say berberine is nature's ozempic um which uh i guess depends on the day whether we agree with that or not but today i'd say yeah sure we'll agree with

23:42Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:it how is it nature's ozempic yeah and so yeah me take um so this one without getting too technical is berberine is known to induce glp1 which is the hormone that does the satiety piece for for you know blocking your eating um so it slows down um digestion slightly um so berberine the easy way to understand what berberine is it's a it's a fasting mimic and so when you fast glp1 goes up same with taking berberine they're kind of you can look at them the same way um i'm not sure if you've ever done this but when you fast for a while um you stop getting hungry that's part of that that natural process where you you just stop wanting to eat and um the the whole business behind the the drug versions of that they're fantastic for people that are very much overweight need to lose a lot of weight.

24:42Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:You know we would never go against you know a person's choice to do that but when when you do that a very large percentage of people have digestive problems and a lot of that comes from gastroparesis which is the slowing of the emptying of your stomach so you feel full because you eat and it just sits there so and then it slows down your gut motility as well so the moving of food along your elementary canal changes as well. And the reason why it does it so strongly is because it's a drug. It goes to your brain, basically, and initiates all of those downstream effects. And I often call it a hammer.

25:24Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:So if your endocrine system is kind of like an orchestra or a piano, you want to play a beautiful piece where there's a lot of strings being played there's resonance and they're readjusting with each other and um often when you inter intercede with um something that's like a glp-1 agonist that stays on it goes on stays on forever it's like playing the piano with a hammer um and so it's not pretty it gets the job done it does what it's supposed to do but it's not how you're supposed to be um interacting with your endocrine system

26:02Michael Bosstick:So for the average person that maybe just wants to lose a little bit of weight or tighten up, instead of jumping to that, you could jump into something like this and achieve some of the same effects that that drug is doing, but without going straight to the brain and taking, to your words, a hammer to it. You could take a more natural approach to that same kind of GLP-1 production.

26:20David Roberts:Exactly. Yeah. I mean, the other issue with GLP-1s, again, they work for a lot of people, but there's the muscle wasting side of it. And so, you know, one of our partners is an MD and he was like, guys, let's develop a GLP-1 alternative, not necessarily as a substitute, but if people come off of a GLP-1 because they get sick and they can't eat, or let's say they lose their insurance and it's expensive, you know, having an option. And so we came up with one that has berberine for that reason, but it also has green tea extracts called EGCG, and that turns off your hunger hormone ghrelin. And so you have the same as satiety issue or effect as GLP-1s, but instead of maybe not being able to eat because your gut is full, you're not hungry.

27:14So you don't have like the incessant snacking, but you can eat because your gut's emptied.

27:20David Roberts:And John, maybe you can touch about this, about the myostatin.

27:23Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:Oh, so the biggest problem a lot of people, at least health influencers have with GLP agonists is that they make you lose muscle weight. So that was the primary reason of how we formulated it was myostatin. A lot of people know what myostatin is by the fact that there's these cows or dogs that look like Arnold Schwarzenegger they're just super muscular that's a myostatin knockout and so it's the way that you if you can inhibit myostatin in any way you make it easier to put on muscle and so one of the components in RGL Perfect is called EC one of the sub components of green tea and it actually directly reduces the expression of myostatin so there's that angle and then um berberine itself um increases um a protein called folistatin which it then inhibits directly

28:31Dr. John Gildea:inhibits i'm sold i'm gonna take two right now so the intention is that you could increase glp1

28:38Michael Bosstick:production naturally but also not trigger the massive muscle shedding not not just not trigger

28:42Dr. John Gildea:it you it's protective it's not my first meal it says to take one with my first meal can i take one now to take two now yeah um okay wow interesting guys geez it's awesome so for somebody that is worried about losing muscle mass they could take this and guard sure it's that yeah and then still

29:05Michael Bosstick:achieve the glp1 production that they're looking for interesting it's more like the the piano

29:10Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:concerto where it's not a it's not a hammer it's it's cycling like glp1 it's light too it's not

29:16Dr. John Gildea:like a heavy pill it just goes down real quick easy efficient so microplastics and invisible

29:22Michael Bosstick:toxins are we living in the most toxic time ever or is this just what people are saying are we really swallowing a credit card a month yeah that's a great question hopefully not but some

29:32David Roberts:people certainly are i mean i'd say i'd say it's it's a pretty easy yes as far as being the most toxic uh you know and it depends on where you live right if you're in the city yeah if you know your municipal water is chock filled with stuff um and then you know if you're in the country and you're on a well maybe less but i mean you know microplastics are a huge issue that are everywhere we just touched on glyphosate huge issue that's everywhere and you know they're they're they you know, are big, big problems.

30:05Michael Bosstick:And so what do you guys think about in terms of guarding yourself or ridding yourself of these microplastics that we're exposed to on a daily basis?

30:13David Roberts:Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, to just take a sec back, you know, micro, what are microplastics? They're micron kind of microscopic size plastic particles, even nano size. So even smaller that can be in your, the, the, um, liquidy drink, they can be in the food you eat. They can be in the air you breathe in fact most of our exposure comes through air um oh wow i did not know that yeah and so you know so you if you want to start thinking okay what are some things i can do to mitigate to lessen microplastic exposure first thing would be you know what do you are you microwaving your foods in plastic um that heating of of the food that plastic can leach into the food so frozen dinner no no uh if you're if you have a reheating your dinner put it in a in a tupperware or a um ceramic put it in metal reheat it that way it's easy it takes a little bit more time but you're not going to get the same do you know what i did what you don't even know this in my microwave i

31:18Dr. John Gildea:have a note the a post-it that says don't even try it thinking about it anyone that opens that because you're not opening that. It says don't even try it.

31:28Michael Bosstick:I'm not a big microwave guy.

31:29Dr. John Gildea:Good. Don't even try it. In our new house, I'm taking the microwave out of the house.

31:34Michael Bosstick:Well, the question is like, you know, I think we jumped into these easy, convenient things. We've done that with a lot of different human technology. Sure. But to your point, you can achieve the same result, maybe not as quickly, but with the same effect in maybe a healthier way with other cooking methods.

31:49David Roberts:And heating, yeah. But I mean, there are things like, do you know that like those shiny tea bags that are like the pyramids. Yep. So those are made of nylon. And those, just one tea bag, one drink, can leach up to 2 billion microplastics.

32:09Dr. John Gildea:This is why I use Peak Tea, code skinny. I use my ginger Peak Tea. You just open it at the top and pour it in. And then I also have their...

32:17Michael Bosstick:It's loose leaves, right?

32:18Dr. John Gildea:No, you just, it's like, it's all squished up. That's what I'm saying.

32:22Michael Bosstick:It doesn't sit in the plastic. Grind it up.

32:24Dr. John Gildea:No, you just pour it in and you're so right. You really, you have to be, I think your own investigator. Even in the baby bottles, I was looking at my son's bottle, it's glass, but there's a plastic thing in it that he's drinking every day. And when that heats up, because we heat his bottle, I'm like, wait, that's heating up the plastic thing. So now I'm like, I told my nanny, I'm like, please just do it room temperature. And that's what Michael and I are gonna do too. room temperature because it's you really just have to look at every little thing you're doing on a daily basis.

32:59David Roberts:Yeah. I mean, we just another great example. We're at a hotel and there's a plastic water bottle next to the coffee maker, which has a plastic pod, which has paper cups, which is good. Right. But those paper clubs are lined with plastic. And so just the simple idea of drinking a coffee, you're getting three different exposures.

33:21Dr. John Gildea:And then you put the straw in the hot coffee and you drink it out of the straw. I mean, it's on and on and on. I think that you do have to take a self-inventory, though you can't expect other people to do it for you, because clearly that's not happening. You have to just look at your own habits.

33:36Michael Bosstick:So this topic is obviously becoming more prominent, and I think it's being received now in a different way. But when we started kind of having people on and talking about these subjects four, five, six years ago, you catch a lot of flack. Are you guys starting to see people in, I guess, the medical community, scientific community be more open to this perspective? Because I would just tell you, when I say, when I'm joking about press, I would say even the mainstream media, sometimes when you say things like this, you get these kind of like bad articles or bad headlines saying like, oh, you're fear mongering or this or that, or woo woo, no science.

34:15Michael Bosstick:And so I wonder how how you guys respond to that now as this conversation has become more prominent yeah

34:20Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:and from my perspective when you um you pull all those pieces together and then knowing what it how it works inside your body um i'm pretty confident i could scare just about anybody about uh them being inside your inside your body and pretty convincingly even though it's a new new subject um so the way i usually start talking about this is that you know a long time ago everything started being made from plastic right and they said it would last forever and then now we know it doesn't like anybody that has put some plastic outside you see it degrades so the plasticizers that are in the plastic used to be thought of that's what the bad stuff is there's endocrine disruptors in there and all kinds of things like that but as that But as those plasticizers that make the plastic soft leaf, they become brittle.

35:14Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:So anything, wind, abrasion, time, they become smaller and smaller and to the point where the whole crust of the earth is covered with microplastics. And so you stir that up, breathe it in, gets in your food, gets in your water. It's sort of everywhere. So you have to do something related to that to decrease your burden. and so a good way to start that is where's the where's the first one the highest dose that's coming around if you're if you're outside it's not that high if you're indoors the indoor microplastics is the biggest problem so getting a HEPA filter in your air especially where you sleep is the most important thing should be the first thing you do and then and then your water what's the best water water is you know rl water has no microplastics in it at all and so you just

36:07Dr. John Gildea:think about reverse osmosis filter i'd like one of those what's the best brand there are there are

36:13David Roberts:a number of good ones i would just i would source this filter on the house we do do you even know that no no man that's good um i don't know it's what it's got it's one of those big it's like out

36:24Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:on the we did we did the whole thing house we did wow yeah okay wow that's a good husband well so we

36:31Michael Bosstick:just have one on the sink we get to we have the privilege of talking to people like yourself and i and i feel like we take little chunks so we had a person who builds air filters named mike does nothing but you know mike jasper so he's been on and we talked we have a guy that does nothing but test homes and he tests the air and the air filters we have you know the water guy like the paint like even non-toxic paints and so you you kind of pick up these things along the way and And the way that I look at it now, because I was a skeptic for sure. Like I grew up in the typical 90s household with all of the clean supplies.

37:01Michael Bosstick:Windex for breakfast. Yeah, it basically got sprayed in the face with Windex before school.

37:04Dr. John Gildea:Tied for lunch.

37:05Michael Bosstick:Tied for lunch. But...

37:06David Roberts:Frozen dinners in the microwave.

37:08Michael Bosstick:TV dinner. Over time, you start to look at these things and you're like, okay, I have not been able to see the downside in making these swaps. It's like, yeah, what's the harm in having a gray air filter? Why would you not want to clean your vents?

37:21Dr. John Gildea:But don't you notice that your nervous system is more relaxed since making the swaps? You have to admit it.

37:25Michael Bosstick:Of course. I mean, even the cleaning supplies in our house now, we use this company called Branch Basics and things like that.

37:32Dr. John Gildea:Every idea he just said is my idea that I've manipulated him to. Sure.

37:36David Roberts:That's the beauty of it, right?

37:38Michael Bosstick:It's his idea now. And what I tell people is it's not like I'm not scared of the air and I'm not scared of living, but it's this cumulative effect. So I said, if you can remove all of these things and slowly start to add in better alternatives, the way I think about it is like, you're just at such a greater advantage than someone who's maybe not doing those things. Absolutely.

37:58David Roberts:Yeah. And I think it's, you know, you look at just, again, public health, the puberty age of girls has gone down. You know, they're a lot younger. and and um for boys it's oh they're older you know and and it has to do with the fact that people have these microplastics you can't get rid of them um historically and you know that the microplastics aren't inert they're like sponges so they have toxins in the microplastics and they could be it could be like the the plasticizers and probably a lot of them are they could be metals um and so you know it let's say you you're backed up with these microplastics and and the sponge has some of these estrogen mimicking compounds i mean it's not it's not rocket science that if you know if you have all these estrogen mimicking compounds a lot of them in your body that it's sending signals hey it's time for uh puberty when it when it it's not actually and I look at it you know the the hormones are signaling compounds estrogen is a signaling compound it's like you're watching two TV shows on top of each other you can kind of see maybe what what the TV show is you can recognize some characters you're not going to know what the plot is you're not going to be able to understand it and so it's similar if when you have a body that's filled with microplastics that's you know some of these BPAs or estrogen compounds are leaching out that that there's this disruption i mean and women even i can get with irregular menstrual cycles you know it's another issue do you think over time

39:45Michael Bosstick:future generations will there will adapt to these microplastics and that our bodies will be able to

39:52David Roberts:know them or do you think over it's just going to no because i mean that what happens is basically you ingest them they get through your gut lining they get engulfed in this the it's i call it's the garbage disposal of the cell called a lysosome and the lysosomes are great at degrading stuff just not plastics because they weren't designed to to degrade plastics and so you get these build up of these lysosomes with microplastics in it and so that was why like that last about a year ago we were talking about because our sulforaphane products so good about detox we're like i wonder if it's it would work with microplastics and so before we could do anything this guy this researcher in the midwest um we read about it a couple months later in june he did a study and he showed um that basically taking our form of sulforaphane um basically uh mobilized the microplastics in his blood.

40:53David Roberts:And so he, I think there's only one microplastics blood test, it's Brian Johnson's test. And he did that test and they said it was the highest blood microplastics level that they had ever measured up to that time. And then, you know, a day later, he did it in stages a day later. Brian did. This researcher. The test, the test. Yeah, the guy who did the research. And so, you know, it's being able to mobilize the microplastics is the first step to getting them out.

41:23Michael Bosstick:And so when you mobilize them, and this may sound like a very dumb question, where do they mobilize to and how do they come out?

41:29Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:So that series of events is not to get into the weeds of how it does it, but basically sulforaphane turns on a switch. It's known to be this thing called mucolipin that makes the lysosome fuse with the membrane of the cell, and then it just dumps its whole contents out into outside of the cell. So the only way to move that then is lymphatics. So you can imagine what then gets that out of, you know, the tissue and into the circulation. And so from there, it's still a mystery where it leaves in urine, feces or skin. And so that's still unknown.

42:08Dr. John Gildea:Is there anything you can do to support getting microplastics out in a way that's like, What's the most efficient way to get them out?

42:16Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:So our broccoli product is maybe not as well known about this, but it has stabilized sulforaphane in it, but also has another compound in it called PEITC. It's the active ingredient in watercress. And so those two together are synergistic. And so they actually make a bigger punch than just sulforaphane alone, even though that has a lot of punch. So we think that it's that combination that is actually mobilizing that plastic and getting it out of the cell. So that's the first step. And then I usually talk about you want to do a one-two punch for the cell itself before you get into how you rid it from your body.

43:01Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:The second one is resveratrol. So we have a really high bioavailable resveratrol. and the analogy there is that it's like upgrading your sewage system it's like making bigger pipes it's making a bigger toilet maybe maybe a professional flush kind of thing and so sulforaphane gets it out of the cell um and because it's it's a it's a moving system um it's it's accumulating there especially as you get older because those lysosomes aren't as as prominent. So you have to do both. You have to make more lysosomes, you have to make them bigger and stronger, and you have to move them more. So when a cell gobbles up a microplastic, you want better plumbing to get rid of it, to get rid of everything else.

43:52Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:Because when you plug it up with a microplastic, all these things that, it's very easy to scare someone, but basically misfolded proteins that are normally degraded by that are stopped. And so Alzheimer's is a misfolded protein problem. And even worse than that, these misfolded proteins, instead of going into the lysosome and getting degraded, is shuttled out another system called exosomes. And so those misfolded proteins are being shed out in a way that they can infect transfects other cells. So it's a really bad problem and so the one-two punch of resveratrol and so forth and gets it

44:32Michael Bosstick:mobilized and then so if we were if for us personally and for our audience viewers and listeners if we were to come to you and say okay we're we want to do this detox protocol with your products what is the timeline and i guess what you guys would advise us to do if i came to it said okay i'm ready to start this do is this a thing you take for a couple weeks a couple of months is a couple days and what will we notice and how are we going to set ourselves up for the most success if we wanted to do this detox and then second part of that and this is just a caveat is is there any downside for just doing this even if you just like just for anyone to do it like you just jump in and even if you weren't worried about heavy metals yeah i mean so the

45:16David Roberts:first step would be mitigation so you actually you have to decrease your exposure right because what John said, if you're bringing in more than you're excreting, then you're still behind. And so drink your water, get your air filter. Those will be two steps.

45:33Michael Bosstick:Clean up your lifestyle. Clean up your lifestyle. Keep clean, yep.

45:36David Roberts:Yeah, and clean food. And then take the broccoli, the riser elite, do lymphatic drainage. You could just do a rebounder. You could just walk.

45:47Michael Bosstick:She loves lymphatic drainage.

45:49Dr. John Gildea:I have a dry brush. He asked me what my weird device is that I just got in. I shake on a vibrating plate every morning. He makes fun. Vibrating plates.

45:56David Roberts:Power plate. Oh my God, just listen to your wife.

46:00Michael Bosstick:Okay, so but if I'm taking your product, what's the protocol to get started?

46:06David Roberts:Yeah, and so protocol would be lifestyle, clean up your lifestyle. Then you can just, you know we haven't honed in on the exact measurement but like this guy took um i think 100 milligrams our daily dose suggested is 10 he was like it's that you know that would probably do it so two capsules um a day of of the the broccoli two capsules a day of the reservoir elite um would be you could do that for a week and you'd have be well on your way again and what

46:40Michael Bosstick:would you feel once you do have you i'm sure you guys have done it what what do you kind of notice i mean i i haven't like sat and been like oh you know i i have less uh estrogen mimics in my body

46:53David Roberts:so there's no like there's no you don't get like sick or feel like you're you know it's the beauty of uh the sulforaphane is actually works in all three phases of detox so basically the detox flu that you get when you get sick is and this is most of the detox programs are just heavy they're just pulling the like putting the um the pedal on the metal to phase one and so you're mobilizing all these toxins but you can't get them out of your body and so it's yeah you get sick and so broccoli actually the sulforaphane um it actually slows that first phase of detox and it's the best phase detoxifier of any natural compound.

47:32David Roberts:So it speeds that up. And then step three is excretion.

47:35Michael Bosstick:Is there side effects of taking this? Do you? He wants to know if he's going to shit his pants. No, no, no. I just want to know, like, as you're going, you know, like, for example, like if you, well, I always want to know that, to be honest. But if I'm just asking, like, is there, can you overdo it?

47:49David Roberts:Yeah. So yes and no. No, you can't. It's not like if you take too many Advil. And in fact, they're protective of your kidneys. And so you can't overdose that way. About 10 % of people who take it, especially early on, can have a little nausea. So that's why we suggest taking it with food. I think that there may be some issues with your microbiome shifting and die off of bad bacteria.

48:19Michael Bosstick:The reason I ask is we were talking about GLP-1s and those things earlier and i think in some cases people can overdo these things oh yeah right and that's why

48:25David Roberts:i just asked yeah i mean our our uh gel perfect um we used to be three capsules a day we dropped to two after i did my blood sugar is typically under 100 and this one day i was 115 i took three capsules and just just sat i just sat and typed for two and a half hours and i took it again and it was 70 and like and i'm like that's a lot like that's too you know unless you're keto adapted and can use ketones as fuel that that's enough so people could may pass maybe pass out and and so yeah you those like the geopurfect you don't want to just keep taking um because your blood glucose

49:02Dr. John Gildea:will drop i feel like i've gone to harvard in this conversation um you know what's yeah you know what's crazy is whenever i go to the farmer's market i'm drawn to the micro green booth yes and i always get the broccoli sprouts to put on my eggs but if i go and i buy these sprouts can i just shove it in my mouth or is enough to put it just on your eggs oh yeah tune so two of our

49:28David Roberts:capsules is the equivalent of um five pounds of mature broccoli oh my god you guys are packing it all in because you would and then it's two and a half pound ounces of sprouts the guy who's

49:40Dr. John Gildea:behind the booth is always trying to tell me all the medicinal benefits and i feel bad for him because everyone just walks by his booth because they think it's just like little decoration and it's too bad i'm gonna go to this guy i want to post him or something microgreens are superfoods

49:55David Roberts:so yeah superfoods uh they're nutrient dense she just walks by the guy i spend a lot of time talking

50:01Michael Bosstick:You do. You're the one.

50:04Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:So think about eggs. You were talking about eggs in your morning. So that's a single food that can raise a whole organism. So it has everything. It's superfood as well. So a seed is the same thing. It has everything in there to grow a plant. And so in the seed world, there's a lot of things in seeds that inhibit it from growing. You have to start it from growing. and that's why the issue with sprouting is that it inactivates a lot of anti-nutrients in there and so but you have the same thing seed like an egg or um for for kids milk um it's a single food that can sustain all of all of life and growth it's it's for sure the most nutrient dense food

50:47Dr. John Gildea:can you guys make a kid's version so we can sneak it in because it's we have we have a kid's version

50:51David Roberts:in fact you should have can i have the kid's version it's you have it okay i haven't seen

50:57Dr. John Gildea:It's here in the soft. You know what?

50:59Lauryn Evarts Bosstick:I always called it baby broccoli, but it's actually children's broccoli.

51:03David Roberts:It's children's. And so the issue is like John mentioned, attaching the, adding the PEITC from watercress. And that's basically one plus one equals five. It's like five times the effect. And so some adults can't take it. Some kids can't take it. And so we just have half the amount of sulforaphane. It's much more gentle. And so that's the kid's version.

51:25Dr. John Gildea:I think there's sticky fingers going on in this office.

51:28David Roberts:It may be.

51:29Dr. John Gildea:Because this is like, where's my, I want my Rezverly. I want that and I want, I have my GLP-1 perfect. Yeah, GL perfect.

51:41Michael Bosstick:What happens is she comes home and starts explaining all these things, but she pronounces it in the way. So I get lost.

51:47Dr. John Gildea:But then you admitted on this show in front of everyone, you are like, oh, she was right. The vibrating plate, she was right. The dry brush, she was right. the microgreens at the farmer's market.

51:58Michael Bosstick:What I realize about her is that she's just way more open to these conversations earlier than most people. What we find during this show, especially like family members, is there's a lot, even to this day, there's a lot of resistance around a lot of these subjects. Sure. I mean, it took me 20 years to convince my dad that Diet Coke was in fact not very good for him. He's still, he's still. We have two doctors that are sitting here telling you

52:20Dr. John Gildea:he's a cancer expert saying that this specific thing. I just play a doctor on TV.

52:26David Roberts:I'm not actually a teacher.

52:27Michael Bosstick:Listen, obviously, you know, you don't want to have too much fruit juice in the morning with the sugar, but my dad would sit there and tell me for years that organic orange juice was worse for me than Diet Coke. And listen, he's now backed off, but I think like a lot of that generation comes from, you know, they're like, well, we've had these cleaning supplies and we've had these plastics and we've had these sugars and these chemicals and it hasn't caused problems. But I think that narrative is kind of breaking down a little bit now.

52:56David Roberts:I have to say, since you mentioned microgreens and farmer's markets, I told my boys, this was six years ago, that before they got a cell phone or a driver's license, they had to have a profitable business. And so they latched on to microgreens and started making microgreens for restaurants in Charlottesville. That's a really good idea. What a great idea. Yeah, and so they had this thriving microgreens business for years. They retired it last summer.

53:27Dr. John Gildea:Settle the debate. Charging your phone in the room.

53:31David Roberts:Well, I'm EMF. That's for electromagnetic field sensitive. So the reason I have an Oura ring is I can't do the watches because I can do them for a day. I can't do anything. And my wrist hurts. I can't put the phone up to my temple. It hurts. Now, does that mean you get cancer? I mean, it's not good for you. that's for sure um and going back to the idea of cancer and stress uh i'd say everyone's a little bit different as far as what stress they can i can clearly cannot take that stress did you see that thing do you follow paul saladino at all ever i know who he is so he just did this thing

54:05Michael Bosstick:he's not a big sulforaphane fan okay well regardless of that he did this um he put this post up the other day that i guess the san francisco 49ers have like the most injuries of any nfl team but recently their stadium was moved next to some field where they have either cell towers and he says that they're like uh he's put a video out of it and i'm butchering it but i guess from like torn acls or blown achilles like they are like 40 above the average of the entire nfl and they just move next to that so he was saying like these things have an impact on our uh tendons on our collagen and all these and so he was basically trying to make the correlation like they do not fall into the average of what the other nfl teams do and they're right their stadiums right next it's provocative i think you're going to see an influx of people that

54:53Dr. John Gildea:are using headphones with wires and i also think you are going to see mark my words in the next two years everyone is going to say charge your cell phone in the other room while you are sleeping i'm not saying across the room i'm saying the other room and we will be doing that in our new

55:09Michael Bosstick:house you can wear a cell phone helmet and be fine so you can also get like what's called a

55:13David Roberts:faraday cage so it can be like even a something you can put your cell phone in and so it's the

55:19Dr. John Gildea:issue it's like can we just leave it downstairs like do we need it no no i put it you can actually

55:25David Roberts:put it across the room yeah i think i'm going to take it out of the room you can well what say it don't get in the middle of that one um yeah you can actually just wrap it in a aluminum foil and it's fine. It will mitigate all of the electromagnetages.

55:39Michael Bosstick:Have you ever seen Better Call Saul? I'm in the hat. The Breaking Bad prequel? I'm in the aluminum hat.

55:44David Roberts:No.

55:44Michael Bosstick:Oh, you should watch it because there's like the brother in Better Call Saul. He like is in a full tinfoil. I should be him for Halloween. Well, you're going to be there in about a month. That's you.

55:53Dr. John Gildea:I just think we don't need the cell phone in the room. Put it downstairs.

55:56Michael Bosstick:Yeah. It's obsessive. You can do that.

55:58Dr. John Gildea:No.

56:00Michael Bosstick:You were talking about stress. Even if I don't have to hear this, it was just my stress.

56:03Dr. John Gildea:and desi arnaz i think that's his last name from i love lucy had separate beds we'll have separate bedrooms and you can have your cell phone in yours and i'll have mine be so zen and peaceful with no emf well we're talking i was saying we're just if stress is the number one thing like this

56:20David Roberts:you know yeah whatever there's a lot of ways you can i really enjoyed this conversation and i could

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56:50David Roberts:Yeah. So it's for a week. And then after that, just it's 15, so 25 % off, it's just a standard 15 % off.

56:56Michael Bosstick:Okay. So the highlight though, is if you want to manage your weight and your muscle and detox heavy metals and uh microplastics we can

57:03David Roberts:do it all with you we're gonna feel good with the broccoli sulforaphane it's great for uh skin as well super great for skin super great i would be bald if it weren't for broccoli because it uh it down regulates the dht which is the uh bad form of testosterone that leads to balding so okay we

57:21Michael Bosstick:could have blood with that so this can also protect your hair and your hair growth oh my god get your

57:26Dr. John Gildea:sticky paws out of my stuff.

57:28David Roberts:Hair and it's great for super great for skin. I mean, we are actually we have a number of testimonials from not necessarily men, but women in their 70s who are like the old ladies who've lost their hair and they comes back and they're like, we love you so much.

57:45Dr. John Gildea:You know, Michael, while you've been over at the pastrami sandwich booth at the farmer's market and I've been talking to the guy with the micro greens and he's been saying, why, why can't I get anyone to come to my booth, he should have a line at his booth because microgreens are it.

57:59Michael Bosstick:I thought you were going to say he should put his booth next to the pastrami sandwich. No. I was like, yeah, baby, then you can take a detox. Have a happy as a condiment. That's a good combo.

58:06David Roberts:Yeah, he detoxed the pastrami.

58:07Dr. John Gildea:I hate to say it. I told you so.

58:09Michael Bosstick:Listen, what do I know about health and wellness? But as a marketer and as someone building a business, that guy should go next to the thing that you could put the thing on because the problem with just standing there with a bunch of micro greens is like okay but if it's and if we're standing next to someone's like hey you could put this on this great sandwich or this great treat you're gonna get then you're like oh

58:28Dr. John Gildea:that makes sense yeah well i know i'm just gonna take my mara labs uh five pounds of broccoli that's

58:34David Roberts:right five pounds and two capsules yes the equivalent of jeez all right i'm gonna start the protocol and report back awesome thank you for sure don't take mine thank you guys thank you Thanks so much for having us. It's been great. Yeah, thank you.