Tim Tebow & Demi Tebow On Finding Your True Purpose, Faith, & Everlasting Resilience

37:28praying that one day someone will identify him and come show up for them. Do you feel like what you're doing with this feels it seems like way more fulfilling than what you've accomplished in sports there is zero comparison yeah there is zero comparison when we get to be around boys and girls that have been brought out of this evil or the women that we get to serve um also right here in this state we have um safe homes that are in this state when you get to to see the evil that they were in and then you get to see them flourishing and to be cared for and to be loved and to have a different hope and what they've had and the level in which the they have had to go through such evil is it's hard to even describe.

38:26Like I'm the reason I'm hesitating. So I'm saying, what is appropriate to even share of the level? And sometimes I share more than she always feels comfortable and just so passionate because if we don't talk about it, they're going to continue to suffer. What I love about what you guys are doing and your message is that you are putting so much good into the world and you're in, and listen, I think you should shine whatever you think people should, should hear more about. Like some of the frustrations I think that many people in this country have is you don't get to hear about a lot of these issues.

38:54And we bicker and whine about things that are so unimportant compared to what you're talking about. We're talking about children that have no hope or help. And we're sitting here whining with each other about inconsequential things a lot of the time. But I also think hearing from someone like you and you who have had the success that you've both had, that many people idolize and try to emulate, and hearing you say that there's a greater purpose beyond that, right? Like if someone follows each of your careers and sees what you've done and thinks that like that's the top and having you sit here saying no that's not the top this is the top i think it it's a message that will get many people to kind of change their course of action and their path to go and maybe seek something greater so i just think i just think it's great what you guys are doing i mean thank you so much it is truly i i mean it's not that we're supposed to say it but it really is the greatest honor for us is to be able to serve these boys and girls and um demi was telling you about our our daughter's middle name do you want to share that yeah i mean i don't our daughter um her first name's daphne and it was named after my um my great aunt who was an amazing woman and had such a great impact in my life but her middle name rain um she was named after a little girl that we met um that's that we get to serve on one of our safe campuses in a different country and um i met her when she was really really little um but she was rescued at just a couple weeks old at 25 days old yeah that's really cool i'm sure now that you have a daughter all that you guys are working on even puts it in perspective more yes it definitely puts it into perspective even more because i think you can feel that hurt on a way more personal level right than I probably could have ever having not been a mom.

40:41But regardless of that, I think just knowing where that little girl is today and how she's able to flourish because there were people that cared enough to even just notice, cared enough to listen and cared enough to act where she is today compared to where she was a couple of years ago is one of the reasons I think that - And she is just such a joy. yeah how much does your faith play into all of this it's the foundation for all of it it is i believe that although i miss the mark a lot when we do it better it changes your heart posture changes your mindset and it changes the lens in which you see people we wouldn't just see people for what they could do for us or what we could do for them we wouldn't just see people for what we have in common, but we would see people with the God-given worth and value that we believe every single human was created with, that every single person was really created in the image of God.

41:44And when you really believe that, in your heart, your eyes start to change. The lenses in which you see people start to change. Let's say I dropped a penny and I said, hey guys, I dropped a penny. I need you guys to help me find this penny. Y 'all would look at me and be like, like you're an idiot who cares it's just a penny but if demi dropped her diamond wedding ring and i said hey guys she dropped her wedding ring like stop and we we got to find it there's a couple of things that you guys would probably stop and help us find it why because you know that it's valuable but you also would know that it's innately valuable to her that's her wedding ring but how often in our society do we treat people that are suffering like pennies instead of more priceless than any diamond ring that's ever been created and i think so much of that comes from that we believe every person is created in the image of god and has innate worth and value and they are loved by god and god has called us to love them and i think one of our hearts is that we would know God's love, but then we would also, in a very imperfect way, strive to show that love.

42:57And the greatest form of love is not an emotion. It's not a feeling. It's a choice. We would really choose people's best interests and act on their behalf, regardless if we know them or like them or have everything in common or don't, or have the same political views or faith views or like the same movies. Because I think one of the things that happens in our society right now is in people's eyes other people's value goes up and down based on their opinion and if we live that way oh that's a big one it's a very scary place yeah right if if if you say something i don't like and i value you based on your opinion then your value just went down that that's not that's not going to be a happening a lot lately that's not going to be a healthy society and it would not be a place that people flourish.

43:49But if I think you're seeing a lot of that play out, I think so too. But if our value is fixed, that you can't, you can't do anything to earn or decrease your value and your worth, it's fixed. And you can do things that we like or dislike, right? But that's not your value. And it's not, it's not your worth, right? If that is fixed. Now we all start from a place where, man, we value humanity. We value one another. And then that will lead us to a place of respect and dignity. It doesn't mean likes, right? That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying we have to like everybody, but we should respect everyone if you really believe that they're made in God's image on purpose and for a purpose, right?

44:30And we valued people. Then it's like, okay, we can have healthy conversations. We can have healthy debates. We can have different viewpoints because we know it's not changing our worth and value. But if our value is equal to our opinion, what a dangerous place. If you could both wave a wand with everything you guys have seen to sort of tell everyone something, what would that be? I believe that every single person that is listening is more valuable to God than they have ever realized or even thought about. I believe that every single person has infinite value and worth. every single person. And it's not based on anything that they do or don't do either.

45:17You mentioned earlier, I think you said core statements in your marriage. What did you say? Core values. Core values. What are your core values in your marriage when you guys come together and it's just the two of you? Oh, that's a good question. So it's not just for our marriage. It's for us at the foundation, for us as a family and for the companies that we get to be a part of. And I can't wait to hear yours after this. So I hope you're thinking about them. Go ahead. So our first core value is that we're protectors, that we protect one another, protect the vulnerable, protect each other, protect the people we get to serve, that love is something that covers.

46:00It covers with faith. It covers with hope. It covers with love. It's protection. We care for people, that we would protect them. Our second is that we would value and seek wise counsel. so like that we would really listen to to one another but we would have people that speak into our lives and there's a few things of each one i could break them all down but there's a few reasons for that because that means that we're coming from a posture of humility more so than from a posture of pride like we know it or we have the answers no we want to be able to try to seek that from other people and let them speak speak into us our third one is that we hurt when they hurt is a posture of compassion, not of comfort.

46:44This is so important to us because I think it is so easy for all of us to be able to get into a place where we really seek comfort. But comfort and compassion don't coexist. Compassion comes from the Greek word splanchnizomai, which means to be moved from your most inward parts. It is very uncomfortable. Sympathy and empathy are really good things, but they're different than compassion. If we walk down the street, I could have sympathy or empathy from a distance. I could see a homeless man and I could have sympathy or empathy, but compassion makes me cross the road. Compassion makes me when he's in the suck, so am I.

47:23And then our fourth is we get in the foxhole when necessary. So it's for us, for our team that man life can be really hard we don't have to be in there by ourselves that we can do life with one another that we can have family and friends and loved one and teammates that we're gonna get in the foxhole with them when when people are hurting that we're gonna get in there with them and our fifth one is that is that we embrace the joy and the burden of the calling so a lot of times people just bring up the the joy and and that's awesome we we know that we get to have joy we get to have joy in wins we get to have joy together we get to have incredible moments of joy we also believe the joy of the lord is our strength but we also believe in a burden and that it's in the kindness of god that he would give us a burden a burden for those that are hurting a burden for those that are suffering and that we would carry that carefully that we would embrace the joy and the burden because we view that as a heavy thing and it can be.

48:30We view it as a hard thing and it can be. But it also means if we have a burden for people that are hurting, it also implies that there's something we can do about it. There's a difference that we can make that we would be so burdened to go make a difference for them. And then we define calling a specific way that it's an urgent divine invitation to accept responsibility for a particular task. It's urgent and it's divine to accept responsibility for a particular task. That means even if no one else does it, will we? If it's your calling, it doesn't matter what everybody else does. Will we accept it?

49:05How did you get so good at speaking? I don't know that I am. I feel like you have a calling to be a pastor or something too. Have you ever done anything like that? You're very compelling when you speak. Thank you. Is it just natural? I think Tim is a very deep thinker and he is somebody that i learned so so so much from because he he truly thinks through things um a lot and then he strategizes and when he's up at night and con sleep it's because he's thinking through things and wanting to make things better wanting to fix things he is he's such a fixer like especially in our relationship sometimes i'm just like wait wait okay demi do you want me to just listen or do you want me to try to fix it but I think sometimes men this is on the last episode we struggle sometimes with the listening we jump right to the fixing it is annoying though when you guys don't listen it's so easy too what did you say last night last night I was telling him something and he just wants to fix the problem he just can't help it I mean listen it's it's it's I think it's a quality that every man battles with I think so but you know the intention is right like I said like you know I don't it would be worse if we didn't want to fix anything that's right right i think it's based on how we we really look at it you know it's because that we want to help and we want to make a difference and we don't want whatever that thing is to continue if it's a problem and i think that it's it's really important this is why communication is so important and also hard in a relationship as two people they could be right in their intentions but just at the wrong wavelength right and so so important for clear communication i also learn if i just say like hey i just need to get this off my chase can you just listen he does a great job with that so i also have to remember to just say that that's true i think it is really helpful though yeah none are not the best at picking up the breadcrumbs and the clues and the hints i think we need more like literally this exact thing just tell me just tell me straight on and i was like okay i'm gonna try this and it works every time Do you know that game Mousetrap when you're a kid?

51:16Maybe you don't know this. Do you know the game Mousetrap? That's how I feel sometimes trying to figure out what you want from me. It's like you don't want to step in the wrong direction. The trap will go off. It's like the game of operations. Okay, I got a gear shift here. So both of you have experienced setbacks personally, professionally. You said yourself very competitive. How did you handle setbacks then and how do you handle them now? That's a really good question. You can go first for me. I think not always great. sometimes I handle them better than others sometimes it could be very crushing to my spirit honestly I think when I've done it better it's because I had a better perspective perspective just means to see through right and see through all the noise and I give one example if you get buried or you get planted, it looks and feels the exact same.

52:12Except one of them, life is over, and the other one is just getting ready to sprout. That's really a good one. And it's often when we're in going through life, we've been planted, but we view it as we were buried. And I love getting a chance to encourage people because I need it myself in sharing that. Sometimes the biggest setback in your life is actually in the long run the greatest setup in your life. Because you get to learn from it, you get to grow, you get to adapt. And maybe that door that was closed, there's a better one behind it. There's another one. And if we would just learn from that setback but what happens so often and i've made this mistake because we felt like that setback a door that was closed we feel crushed by it and it and it crushes our heart and our soul and that dream and so we think man and we get so down that sometimes we miss the door that was open and all of the things that we get to learn from it and one of the things that that pixar does for their movies is they have a motto called fail fast and they will literally take a sketch of a of a movie before they animate anything and they'll sketch it out and they'll have everyone come in and they'll pick holes at it and just tear it apart, tear it apart.

53:34And I bet you the creator is probably like, oh man, but why they do that is so that it actually helps in the long run when they do start to animate it because you already evaluated all of these weaknesses. And sometimes we don't want that in life, but it actually can be really helpful. Hey, help me learn and grow. And sometimes a setback can be one of the greatest setups because you can learn and grow through that setback. And I feel like that's been true in a lot of our lives. You just summarized our dinner last night. Seriously? Yeah. No, but I mean, I think I love that perspective on failing fast.

54:09And I love the perspective of, you know, throwing things at the wall and tearing it apart so that you can grow and be better. And I think to your point, so many times you experience a setback, I know we have, and it's very easy to fall into that pattern of like, life is over, I'm never going to be great, I'm never going to be good enough. That's right. But in my life, and I think maybe for all of us, most of those setbacks are the springboards to the next great thing. I really believe that. Demi, how would you describe Tim at home? And Tim, how would you describe Demi at home? What do we not see from you guys?

54:40Oh, that's a good question. What's the real truth? I've never been asked that before. I like it. I like new questions. What we see, Tim, like, you know, on social media or on TV or is who he is at home. It's just who he is. I don't feel like there's a separation ever. You know, one of my favorite stories of Tim is, we just got married. We're on our honeymoon. And Tim plans this super romantic. We're in the Maldives, super romantic stargazing dinner, just the two of us on the beach. And in the Maldives, it's like these overwater bungalows. There's not really land or anything inside. And there's this massive commotion, okay?

55:22Massive commotion. All of a sudden breaks out. and before i could blink tim's gone like runs towards the the uh commotion yeah and i'm thinking to myself like you're running into danger like you don't know what you're running into like we just got married like get back here but i'm thinking okay you also want to have your first marital fight right now so just just keep it together so he comes back like 20 minutes later tells me what happened long story short it was like two families that got into this massive fight over actually COVID. It was like before COVID was like a thing. Yeah, they were fighting over this thing called the coronavirus.

55:56We got married January 2020. I mean, it's two whole families. This is pre, like right before COVID blew up. January 2020. January 2020. Yeah, maybe even February because we were on our honeymoon for like a week. So anyway. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, let's keep it. So we get home. The world shuts down. We're actually in our home for the first time as a married couple. We go on a walk because it's COVID, nothing else to do. So we go on a walk, we come back and our whole driveway flooded with like um fire trucks officers ambulances fire trucks like and i'm like oh my word that i'd leave a candle burning i wasn't baking like this was the like that my straightener on what what did i do and we run around and we meet the firemen and they're like it says house 5798 i'm like no it's that way and i actually sent them the wrong way but besides the point i sent them down to cul-de-sac so bad it was awful anyway they took our mailbox you're trying to do it let's try to help but anyway the maps just gonna turn out anyway besides the point down that way goes all the fire truck firemen all the police everything goes that way and so does tim like running right out like right behind them and in that moment i was like no more no more and i like in my most aggressive chasing the action no and like my most aggressive voice i'm like Tim Tebow, Tim Tebow, get back here right now.

57:17You don't know what you're running into. And he turns around and he goes, Timmy Tebow, if I don't go, there's nothing I can do to help. And I was like, oh my word, you are so right. You are so right. But that's who he is. Like that is who Tim is. That's who my husband is. He is always, I don't want to say ready to be a helping hand because I think it's more than that. I feel like he's always on the lookout to see people, to notice them and to actually go and act, go and fix that problem, right? And that's such a big part of what his new book, Look Again, is based off of. And I have the privilege of getting to see that in action every single day.

58:03And that's one of the things that I love so much about him. I was hoping you were going to say he sits around in his underpants eating chips on his chest, but... He does that too. Set the bar high. Set the bar high for yours. Now you've got to say something about Demi, about what she's like. I was like, Lord, shut the bar. No, that's easy. You know what he does that drives me crazy? Yeah, tell us. He feeds our dog snacks in bed. Oh, I'm a big snacker in bed too. I eat, I actually eat like a full course plow and punch in bed. I love it. He gets so mad. Our dog, he's the Bernese Mountain dog, one of our dogs, and he drools like crazy, especially when there's food.

58:39so it's i feel like the bidding gets changed it's the best though it's really it's so enjoy it's so enjoyable for me when i'm up there and i can just keep being he's so happy and it just makes me so happy wait till you wait till your daughter gets old enough to sit in bed with you and have snacks that's a whole situation i don't mind good or bad good no it's fun we sit with our trays he gets mad we have a sleepover in bed i don't mind that you snack in bed you but the mess after like i get it everywhere smashing crumbs out of the bed yes she said yeah she spilled a chia seed tea all over our sheets and if you know like the chia seeds how they expand oh yeah yeah it was just sticky and then we didn't even you didn't even try to change it you just left it there no i feel like they're dried on the wall um okay so what what's tell us what demi's like when it's just you two she's just the best mom um she's an incredible mom that is um i try to tell her every day that I just think she's the best mom the way that she and I've known she was going to be such a good mom for for such a long time but I think one of the things that people don't realize about Demi is just her passion and her drive like they see it a little bit and like okay she doesn't speak Afrikaans for three months or Miss Universe but they don't see it in all of the areas of just how driven she is and how passionate she is and how passionate she is as a daughter as a mom as a friend as someone that you know we get to work with at the foundation just her drive is it really is something that is so inspiring to be around and then i would say on the other hand with that drive at the same time such a deep level of compassion and kindness you know we've been able to go to so many countries around the world i don't know how many countries we've been to but i'd say probably one of my favorite things about demi and our whole relationship is watching her pick up and carry these babies that we've been able that were thrown away in dumpsters and toilets and trash sometimes left with the umbilical cord still attached and to watch her carry and love on them or to watch her in high heels relentlessly for five hours straight, push people down the red carpet and it's, and then she'll, at night to shine, or then, you know, and then she'll, you know, get in the car and she'll take off our heels and be bleeding and she won't complain.

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1:05:08So for me, I think one of the most important things is to eliminate the poison. And I think sugar and a lot of processed food is just poison. So I think that's one of the biggest things for people is getting rid of that, getting that out of your lifestyle because it is just destroying so many lives. Well, I bet that was also a shock for you coming to this country. oh you can eat so much more food in south africa than you can here yeah i mean you know here you're like looking for healthy snacks and things that are better but i grew up just literally eating like farm to table like even now when we go back restaurants like some of them like have their own gardens in the back and things are seasonal you know and actually get strawberries here around it's not supposed to last all year long you shouldn't just be able to leave it on your counter and it's still good.

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1:08:16Because it's like the, it's the, the padding that you guys have to deal with. And the whiplashes can be really bad too. Um, that's probably my worst one. How do you guys optimize your day in the morning? What are the things that you guys do every morning right now? I'm just, if I get clothes, real clothes on, that's a way.

1:08:38By the way, that's going to be your next six years, just so you know. okay i'll take it gladly it's so fun so and when he's home it's helpful i um i think it's so important to start the day right we get to play with daphne we get to get in god's word and do a devotional together we get to um spend time uh make her coffee and just try to even if it's fast even if it's only a few minutes, when we miss it, it really does feel like the day is less. Like when we don't get to do that together and we just way too often let something get in the way of it. And it really does. I just think it makes us grounded and changes our mind and heart when we're able to have that time together and do go through something that we're studying together.

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1:10:24Oh, if you want another one of my favorite supplements. Yeah, I want some. It's a supplement to neurologically stimulate you and it can be used as a pre-workout, but it's more than just that. It's a supplement called Neuron by Optimum EFX. I love it. Not a lot of people know about this one, but it is incredible. I never heard that one. Well, I first was told by it, by like all of this, the great Steelers defensive players. And it's - Why the defensive players? Like why? Well, just, I became friends with Troy Polamal and some of those guys and then the Ryan Clarks and James Harrison. And I just, they went to a place I was training and told me about it.

1:10:57And it's just, it's a good one. You should try it. What does it do? It helps you focus. Okay. helps you really lock in. You know, there's so many nootropics out there, right? It's like the big fad that's all over the place. But I also feel like so many of them are, they're okay, the supplements, but it's so underdosed that it's just, but I feel like y 'all might try. I knew we would have one. I knew we would have one that you hadn't heard of. We moved on faster on the health side. We did, no, I do. So much to talk about that. I mean, another, you know, you've played professional sports at the highest level.

1:11:29When you get access to some of those trainers and some of those health coaches, what are some of the things that maybe they're offering to you guys that the general public's not aware of? Or is it just more of? Or is there certain things you're like, oh, I wasn't aware of that until I got. There was so much that I wasn't aware of. I've been for the most part when it comes to diet and discipline and stuff, pretty disciplined and obedient. I didn't have a soft drink since I was 15. In college, I would do all the things like carb load that they would tell us to do. And then you find out you're like, man there's a lot of people that don't believe in it it's not good and they have really valid reasons for it and so just who you listen to matters so much and then you get to meet some of these awesome um individuals that have you know that creates you know certain supplements and they're better for you or better for this and then you get to get a cleaner protein or a cleaner creatine or all these things and you're like oh my gosh i wish i would have known about this earlier it would have changed so much of the game and now there's so much that's also you know coming out for health benefits and there's you know some sometimes people can view it as controversial but like the the methylene blues and all these other things that are good for your brain and so honestly for us we care more about our brain than we do just our body right and and just taking the right things for your brain all of the uh the omegas and all of the nootropics so that we our brains can stay healthy is honestly more of what we focus on than just our body my dad battled pancreatic cancer the last couple of years and he actually passed away a couple weeks ago i'm so sorry to hear that thank you but his diagnosis i think even sent us just into a deeper dive into into really understanding not just how great this one specific supplement is for you but just holistically viewing the body and things that work together things that you know I think there's some way smarter people than us that get to explain things.

1:13:28Way smarter. Just how things kind of all work together in a holistic kind of way that benefits your body on so many different levels. Yes, I mean, so that's what led us into red light therapy and saunas and hyperbaric chambers. Detoxing, like actually properly detoxing. Cleanses and vitamin IVs, all of that. It's really been a journey for us the last few years. Alcohol or no alcohol? I don't drink. I'll have a glass of wine. I haven't had that in over a year because I've been pregnant and I'm breastfeeding and I just prefer not to. Yeah, and really for me, it's not really a conviction. It's just I don't, I know a lot of the people I listen to talk about what it does on your body.

1:14:09Oh no, it's clearly not good for us. If someone's listening and they want to find their purpose, what advice would you guys give to them before you go? So if we look at purpose, understand what it means. the reason something is done, used, created, or exist. And I think it's really important to define things so people can be on the same page. Do you really believe that you exist just for that job that you have right now? Or is it bigger than that? And I would encourage people, their purpose is bigger than just what they do. I really believe that. A lot of times people ask me, how do I know what my purpose is?

1:14:43The first thing I would say is, I don't know. But when you look at where you are, the skill sets you've been given, the convictions of your heart, the way God has made your brain. So one of the ways I'll say it, and this is kind of cheesy, but is what's your mindset, your skill set, your heart set, your where set. And when you add all that up and you use it for good and to benefit other people, it's a super set. So it's, you know, Demi's going to have a different mindset, some different convictions than me, a different skill set. and where she's been placed you add all that up so some people are like man i just want to go overseas and help here well maybe you don't have the the skill set or the conviction or the mindset or but right now where you are how can you use that and i think you add all of those up and when you use those for to make a difference in other people and then you really evaluate that you know how does my brain work how really how can i solve problems or think and you know maybe we get to work with um uh in part of the our fight against trafficking we use a lot of technology for it um pattern recognition and in unique ways to be able to identify kids and serve and help you know there's certain people that man they're so gifted i need help just to turn it on and turn it off and they're so gifted in that you know that's an incredible purpose that that i couldn't live out i couldn't create some of these things to be able to identify some of these boys and girls it's incredible purpose.

1:16:12Sometimes people have a different skill set that it's unique to them. So you add all that up, my mindset, my heart set, my skill set, my where set, where have I been placed? Maybe I've been placed in a unique position to make a difference. I add all that up and I really step back and evaluate it. And now how can I use that to impact as many people? That's one way I would encourage them to think about it. Great advice. I think so often we feel like our purpose is something so extravagant so far-fetched so you know kind of glamorous it's supposed to and I honestly think that's sometimes a little bit of pride speaking because we make it about ourselves and I actually think purpose is about something bigger than ourselves um perhaps even about other people um and I think the impact that we get to have on somebody else's life have the ability to have an eternal impact something that will last for forever um far beyond just us um and i think so often our purpose is hidden in plain sight hidden in the skills that we have hidden in the things that we love that we're naturally good at um that we can utilize for something bigger than just ourselves you both have two new books one each yeah high achievers um not even playing that way either.

1:17:30Not even planned. We lost them in the water catastrophe. Oh, it's okay. Don't worry about it. And either one of you choose to, maybe Demi, what can people expect from your book? And then same question, but you go first. My book's actually a 100-day devotional. It's called Knowing Who You Are Because of Who God Is, 100 Days to Unbreakable Faith. And I wrote this book in a time where I felt like my faith was a little rattled where I felt like my purpose wasn't clear and where my identity certainly wasn't secure and it was because I placed so much of that value and worth on things that were always just meant to be temporary and then you know we talked a lot about how I prepared to win Miss Universe and how I prepared for that big moment but we don't always talk or get to prepare for the moment that that thing that we chase for such a long time falls away when that corner office turns maybe into a retirement package or you're an empty nester for the first time or whatever that looks like to you.

1:18:30And for me, when I handed that crown over to the very rightful next winner, I felt like I handed over my identity and my worth and my value and it was gone like that. And I really questioned, oh my goodness, who am I without this title, this thing? And as a Christian And as somebody that has a, I want to think, a deep-rooted faith, I realize that there's nothing that I can strive for that will ever give me that worth or value or purpose because it's already God-given to me by my creator. And I believe that knowing who he has created us to be allows us to understand who we are. I love it. It sounds like, I mean, you guys have had very different careers, obviously.

1:19:16There's so many similarities. it's really it's really like i mean when you say you're when you say you're so different there's like when i'm listening to both of you and obviously there's a lot of similar it's like parallels but like because same with the identity stuff like like if i met you and i met you separately i feel like i would set you up i love it well that would have been awesome that would be great but you know what i mean because i imagine same and tell me if i'm wrong but same thing with you with with athletics right and going and then changing that path right i imagine that is very difficult not only for you but many people that follow that path it's like you do something become known for something for so long and then when you're not doing that thing anymore it's like there's no doubt and i think that's honestly what we mean when we say you know we didn't have that much in common we had a lot in purpose is the kind of some of the journeys that we were on and it wasn't based on you know first languages or favorite movies she's you know still only watch a little bit of braveheart i can't do braveheart either i can't do you have to it's a classic it's awesome i also can't do star wars you mentioned that either i can't do it i'm sorry michael we'll get through it we'll get through it uh tell us about your book um well it's called look again and recognize your worth renew your hope run with confidence and i i really hope and pray that it's more than a book it would be a wake-up call a wake-up call for people to first recognize their own worth and value and then when you do that you can't help but when i see the world see other people's worth and value and then when you see people that are infinitely valuable with great worth and you see them hurting how could i look away how could i not respond one of the examples that i give is as i believe in the eyes of god the way God loves us is he loves us with a royal worth and value.

1:21:11And so when we see people, royalty and rubble, how could we not respond? How could we walk the other way? And I really think it starts with the lenses of our eyes and the lenses of our heart. Really, how do we see ourselves and how are we going to see other people? And I want to challenge him, please don't look away look again loved having you both thank you both thank you guys our pleasure thank you guys so much yeah thank you for both for what you're doing because you're putting a lot of good out into the world thank you help a lot of people uh where can i be i'm sure they already follow you guys but where can they follow you on instagram sammy tebow tim tebow yeah thank you so much for coming on the show