Carve Your Unique Path to Success | Zane Lowe EP 478

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0:53I'm curious about maybe an artist or two that really surprised you. Maybe you had a conception about them based on their music, based on what you'd seen in the press before you've interviewed them, based on their persona and personal brand and kind of character type that they portrayed to the masses. Is there one or two that you can... There's a group. I always came from the corner of the room. Like, I knew what music I liked and I didn't really want to compromise on that. Right. So I knew it was a slower journey and I knew that it wasn't going to be any shortcut to big numbers or big audiences.

1:27is it was like you know if you want to be the first person to play the hives on the radio you know you're not going to be no one's going to kick your door down for a mainstream saturday night nbc show you know what i mean it's like he's the hives guy he's happy in his corner right he's doing his thing he's a new music person and and it worked really well for me and and i had an amazing time i realized like if i'm going to listen more and i'm going to change the way that i approach these conversations i need to find people who are doing things i don't really know about. I don't really know what drives the pop mentality.

1:55I don't really know who Justin Bieber is. I don't really know what kind of life Selena Gomez has actually lived. And so when I started having those conversations, it became clear to me and very surprising that with a bit of listening and some genuine curiosity and probably a bit of naivety as to what goes into the pop world, we unlocked these kind of stories and these conversations that really surprised me how transparent modern pop artists have become really yeah because in my time when i was coming up to the 20s and 30s or whatever trying to find my voice pop was just so hi where are the backstreet boys right it's like hey what's been the hardest thing on tour i don't know man kevin ate my hot dog last night that was pretty tough going you know mtv news you know that was like the headlines but you knew there was stuff going on you knew that people didn't like each other you knew there was drama people getting ripped off i mean pop music is what has been one of the most exploited things right from an artistic point of view it's very exploit i mean music any artist is you know hip-hop country music dance music whatever the artists have a tough time so you knew that didn't stop at pop you knew there was drama and pop but you can never get to it it's like it was always just like and cut we're good here you know find a light and yeah sell the records sell the record sell the dream and what was really interesting to me was when i started having conversations with these artists just how honest and inspiring in conversation they were i mean i've found my times talking to selena gomez to be some of the most fascinating and honest amazing conversations i've had in my career really yeah she knows where the line is but she doesn't mind walking up to it you know and i always thought pop music was way behind the line you know you want to go have those conversations go talk to your favorite rock star or rapper or singer-songwriter folk star or whatever I never thought pop stars would show up like that.

3:48And that's really where it's gone. I mean, sitting down and having that conversation with Justin Bieber where he was that vulnerable, that open, that honest. Let the tears flow. Let the voice crack. Let the body language tell you everything that you needed to know. That was very surprising to me. It was not what I was expecting when I showed up to the studio that day. And I found the whole thing to be incredibly brave and honest and I think inspiring for other stars who perhaps felt like they had to present their best and protect the rest, it's okay. You can just let it all go if it's the right time and the right place and you want to.

4:27You know, Kelly Clarkson said something to me today in our conversation where she talked about sort of being more willing to just walk away from things. And I remember she just said it's exhausting. It's exhausting to continually have to sort of keep things together. She started saying no and creating boundaries. Yeah, just saying it's easier for me just to say, I don't want to do that or I'm going to move on. Or it's just, here's my honest truth. And that's what I saw in Justin. I just saw at the time, you can watch it. I'm not saying anything you can't see. He just looked exhausted. And he just looked like he wanted to just stop.

4:53He just wanted to be like, here's how I feel today, bro. I may feel different tomorrow, but today I'm tired. And so that has been a very inspiring thing as someone who's curious about what goes into music and art. The true stories, the humanity of it. You know, so many artists who have so much to lose by being honest. hundreds of millions of followers and constant attention constant eyeballs trained on them from a young age to actually be able to say i'm upset or that really hurt me or this is my truth and i i think in many respects and this is the this is the thing this is my little headline from this conversation i think that this generation of people who were raised in the public eye and have gone on to develop careers in pop music from a young age are ultimately paving the way for pop stars to be able to walk the line with more knowledge, with a better understanding, just a stronger sense of self.

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