How to Chase What Scares You Into Greatness | Emma Grede

20 Apr 2026 · 8 min · 2 chapters

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In short

How to “chase what scares you” by reframing fear and failure as the path to growth, while balancing independence with the need for community and relationships.

Guest

Emma Grede, entrepreneur and author. She discusses building success through multiple jobs early on, managing responsibilities for her siblings, and later transitioning into business. She emphasizes training her mind to manage emotions rather than eliminate fear.

Key claims

Greatness is rarely “pretty”; you learn most from failure. Instead of treating fear as a threat to identity, ask “what scares me?” because that’s where the next growth moment is. “I don’t need anyone” means people aren’t expected to be everything; she builds a “tapestry” of husband, girlfriends, family, and work relationships.

Notable examples

Moving away from home reduces familiarity and connectivity, creating a mental cost even when it supports success.

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Chapters

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The Importance of Relationships

0:40 to 4:00

Exploring the balance between independence and the need for connection.

“I think you mentioned maybe something around that, like I was strong enough or independent enough.”

Learning from Failures

4:00 to 6:06

Discussing how failures contribute to personal growth and greatness.

“And so that's, there's a real cost to that, you know?”
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0:39I think you've mentioned twice by now in this conversation that you grew up not needing someone, specifically like a man. I think you mentioned maybe something around that, like I was strong enough or independent enough. I didn't need someone to make it in some way. I can't remember exactly how you said it. where would you be if you weren't in a beautiful marriage though? Not that you need your husband, but in some ways we need other people to experience beautiful moments of life and to experience more love and abundance. So I guess I'm asking, not questioning you, but asking like, where is that line of not needing someone, but also needing other people to create those moments in your life so i love that question because i'm somebody that really thrives in community like it's like i have my people like my ride or die and make no mistake like i need my husband like my husband is somebody that i think is my best friend and he's the person that i find the most interesting on the planet and i still really fancy him thank god um and and i really need him i think that i When I say I don't need anyone, my expectation on people is never that they will be everything to me.

1:56Like I haven't set Jens up to be like all the things that I need because I need different things from different people. And it's like I have like a bunch of girlfriends and I have the people that I work with and I have my sisters and I have my family and I have my husband. And my life is like a tapestry of all of these different things that I've created around me. And I need all of them. I need everything. I need all of it. And I love that because I am somebody that like, like I'm a real life person. You know, I want to be in person with you. I would like give the phone up tomorrow. You know, I am an in-person person.

2:31I want to talk about the office. I want to chat with you for free hours. It's like I have zero time for like nightclub chat, you know, frivolous conversations. I want to go straight in, all in. Tell me everything. Tell me about your wife, the kids thing, the thing. Do you know what I mean? That's what I care about. So I am a person who needs those relationships. And that's what makes it so difficult when you move away from home because you move and you lose, you know, the kind of price of opportunity is familiarity. Do you know what I mean? You lose everything that you feel so good and that makes you tick and that makes you you to some extent.

3:09And so I feel like those sacrifices and those trade-offs, while they've been important and amazing for my success, I have given something in order to get that back. What have you given? Well, you've given up. Like, you know, familiarity is an interesting thing because when you're somebody like me, I don't want to do new people all the time. Like, I would rather, you know, it's like I'm invited to a lot of things. I don't want to go. I want to like, you know, I don't want to go. I want to be with somebody that I care about, who cares about me and talk about that thing that happened. You know, it's like, that's just who I am.

3:48And so I think when you leave where you're from, a little piece of you kind of, you know, falls away because like, I don't have that same connectivity with all of the people that I love. I had to give something up to get something else. And so that's, there's a real cost to that, you know? I feel like mentally and in the world, you've been achieving greatness since you were a young kid. From having multiple jobs to running your siblings' lives and managing all these things, and also having a positive mindset along the way, to transitioning into the business world and being extremely successful.

4:24And in your book, you have a quote on page 70 that says, The ascent to greatness is rarely pretty, and you'll learn the most from failure. Since we're on the School of Greatness, what is the thing you failed the most that has taught you about greatness? First of all, I love the name of this podcast. It's so good. I stole the mug of air because I was like, I want to drink from the School of Greatness every damn day. I was like, let's go. Take it. You know, the reason I try to include all of the mistakes and all of the failings is because they have been, in hindsight, right, so hard when you're in it.

4:59But of course, they've been the places where I've grown. And everybody knows that. And I have kind of retrained my mind at this point to look for the fear, to look for the moment where I might not come out on the other side in the best way, because I know that that's where all the growth is. Really? Yeah. Like and it's a really difficult thing to do because specifically for women, I think that we are sort of engineered in a way where our emotions can take so much about decision making. And what I talk about in the book is how I or one of the reasons I think I've been able to build this life is because I've been able to manage my emotions.

5:39Not that I've got rid of fear or guilt or sadness or anger or any of the things I feel, but I've trained myself to understand what is useful and what is going to get me somewhere. And so when I think about all the failures, I don't look at them as like an assault on me and my character. I'm like, that was just a moment where I had something to learn and life had something to show me. And I had to go through that terrible time to get on the other side. I couldn't have this without that. And so now I find myself going, what scares me? What am I really scared of doing now? Because I am 100 % sure that's where the next moment of greatness is coming from.

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Emma Grede doesn't believe in needing just one person to complete you, but she absolutely needs people. Her life is a tapestry of deep, intentional relationships: her husband, her sisters, her close circle. When she left home for opportunity, she learned a hard truth. The price of ambition is familiarity. You lose the people and places that make you feel like yourself.

That sacrifice shaped everything. She now actively hunts for fear because she knows that's where growth happens. She's retrained her mind to look at failure not as a character flaw but as a moment where life is trying to teach her something. For women especially, she argues emotions aren't liabilities. They're tools you learn to manage, not suppress.

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