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Podcast Episode Summary: The Daily Motivation - SOG EP 1653 BONUS
Episode Overview
- Host: Lewis Howes
- Guest: Evy Poumpouras, former Secret Service agent
- Theme: Trusting intuition and understanding criminal psychology
- Release Date: (Date not provided in transcript)
Key Concepts
- Self-Authorship: The episode emphasizes that individuals are the authors of their own life stories, highlighting the power of personal narrative in shaping identity.
- Criminal Psychology Insights: Evy shares her experiences and observations from working closely with criminals, challenging common perceptions about violent offenders and fraudsters.
Discussions and Insights
Misconceptions about Criminals
- Dehumanizing Labels: Society often labels serial killers and violent offenders as "monsters" or "predators," elevating their status in a way that can obscure their realities.
- Reality of Offenders: Evy describes many criminals as damaged individuals rather than apex predators. They often appear meek and are capable of connecting on a personal level.
- Targeting Vulnerable Populations:
- Victims: The primary targets of these individuals are often vulnerable populations: children, women, and the elderly.
- Cowardice in Targeting: Evy argues that these criminals, being cowards, choose easier targets rather than confronting equal adversaries.
Justification of Actions
- Internal Rationalizations: Evy explains that many perpetrators of violence justify their actions to themselves, leading to a sense of detachment from their crimes.
- Easier Confessions for Violent Crimes: Contrary to what might be assumed, violent criminals often feel guilt and are easier to get confessions from, unlike those involved in financial crimes.
Financial Crimes and Scams
- Challenges in Prosecution: Evy discusses the difficulties in prosecuting financial crimes, especially when the amounts involved are deemed too small by authorities to pursue.
- Impact on the Vulnerable:
- Financial scams disproportionately affect the elderly, who may be targeted for their savings or pensions.
- The emotional impact of these scams can be devastating, and recovering lost funds is often nearly impossible.
Personal Stories
- Heartbreaking Cases: Evy recounts a case of an elderly woman who was defrauded of $30,000, illustrating the profound consequences of financial crime on individuals’ lives.
- Justice vs. Recovery: Although justice may be served through criminal charges, the reality is that victims often remain without restitution, emphasizing the need for better protective measures.
Conclusion
- Final Thoughts: Lewis thanks listeners and encourages them to reflect on how the stories they tell themselves can shape their experiences. He promotes the full episode of his main podcast, "The School of Greatness," for deeper insights.
- Call to Action: Listeners are encouraged to follow the podcast on platforms like Apple Podcasts and Spotify, sign up for the newsletter, and consider subscribing for exclusive content.
Key Takeaways
- Trust Your Gut: The episode advocates for trusting one's intuition and developing an awareness of red flags in interactions with others.
- Understanding Scams: Awareness of how scams operate, particularly against vulnerable populations, is crucial for prevention.
- Empathy for Victims: Evy emphasizes the importance of compassion for those affected by crime, recognizing their suffering and the societal implications of such offenses.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00My name is Lewis Howes. Thanks so much for being here. I want to remind you about the Summit of Greatness, our annual conference happening this September in Los Angeles. With David Goggins, Dr. Joe Dispenza, and many more incredible speakers and performers, there will be so many live attendees there that you can meet with, you can network with, and you can help transform your life. I can't wait to see you at the Summit of Greatness here in Los Angeles. Hi, my name is Lewis Howes, and welcome to The Daily Motivation Show.
0:37You know what's interesting? When they do these profiles, you always label these serial killers or these people that do these things as these horrible predators and monsters. And we kind of elevate them to such a degree. I've sat across people who've done horrible things and you think you're going to have this monster in front of you. And it's... It's just a horrible person. They're nothing special. Really? Nope. They've been beat up. They've been let down. Some of them are super meek. Really? Yes. You would. They look, they're nice. They're quiet. They're not this thing that you label. They'll connect with you.
1:12They'll look in your eyes. They'll respond to you. But they're also not these apex predators that we make them out to be. When you look at these folks, who do they typically target? Who are their victims? Vulnerable women? Yes. Women and children. Actually, the number one population that gets victimized the most are children because they're the most helpless, then women, then elderly. Wow. So if you're such an apex predator, why are you picking on these populations? Interesting. Because they're easier to take down. Less conflict. Less conflict? It's easier for me to take you. I'm not picking somebody of equal capacity to me because I'm a coward.
1:49Ooh, that's true. What's the common theme from all the different serial killers you've interviewed or just people that have done horrible things to others? They justify it. They sell it to themselves. I'll tell you this. Usually people who commit some type of violent crime, those were actually easier for me to get confessions on. Really? Because most people... They have an ego around it, huh? Most people feel bad. Aside from the two disorders that we talked about, aside from the disorder where there's a lack of empathy, most people feel bad for what they did, and they'll tell you. So they'll admit to it.
2:25So those were easier. Financial crimes, money crimes, scams, the stuff we're seeing now online, Those are really hard to get people to confess to. In fact, people do it and they don't feel bad. That's why they're so prolific. There's these massive scams happening. Social media. Oh, it's crazy. Apps, Tinder. Sorry, Tinder. No, it's crazy. Banks. Because we don't feel bad. I'm not actually touching you. A lot of times they're done from overseas. So that's another problem. They're done in other countries. And there'll be countries where there's... I don't want to say what country specifically. I don't want to target a specific country, but there are certain countries.
3:03There's one predominantly in Africa that's very notorious for this, where they're so struggling financially in their third world country that they look at it like, look, I know what I'm doing is not great, but who am I really hurting? It's like a thousand dollars. They have money. It's nothing. Yeah. They do it to elderly, too. A lot of elderly are getting scammed. So elderly people get scammed the most when it comes to money because it is known by people who commit fraud that at that point they've got some money saved, they're collecting some kind of retirement, they have a pension. So what they'll do is they'll target them for, hey, we'll invest your money or, hey, buy this life insurance.
3:41Hey, we'll protect your money. They get scammed financially. I had quite a few of those scams. I remember one woman, she got defrauded. She was part of a bigger case. It's actually very hard to prosecute these cases on a federal level. Sometimes I'd have cases where I had scams, but the dollar amount wasn't high enough for a U.S. attorney to take. And so I would have to fight. They'd say, find me more victims. But I'm like, I got the guy. Here he is. I got a nice bow on this case and everything. The dollar amount's too low. Remember one woman we found, she was part of a collective group that had been defrauded.
4:13She was elderly. We found the person. He was charged criminally. but the issue now is how to get money back and i think hers was like 30 grand right so on the big scheme of things on on an investigative standpoint it's not a lot but for her it was life-changing she is so she would call me oh can you help me get my money can you help me get my money they found them guilty who's going to give me my money and and i wanted to i'd listen to her and i'm like ma 'am your money's gone gone this guy she's and we would seize you'd seize assets you'd sees cars. But one, that's devalued. Two, they blow that money on dinners out.
4:49One guy was doing$5 ,000 dinners with clients. Where are you going to get that money back? Or they're going on vacation. And so people are left with, you'll get justice in that that person gets charged criminally. But once they're in prison, where are you going to get your money? Your money's gone.
5:10Thank you so much for listening to today's episode of The Daily Motivation, and I hope you have an amazing rest of your day. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to click the link in the description. That will take you to the full episode of our main podcast on The School of Greatness. And if you are loving The Daily Motivation, please follow us over on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave us a review over on Apple podcast right now. And if you want more exclusive content and ad free listening experience, make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel on Apple podcast right now. And if you want to get even more inspiration from our world-class guests and learn how to improve your life and take it to the next level, then make sure to sign up for the greatness newsletter and get it delivered right to your inbox over at greatness.com slash newsletter.
6:01Again, have an amazing day and I'll see you tomorrow with another episode of the Daily Motivation Show.
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"Most people feel bad for what they did, and they'll tell you. So those were easier. Financial crimes, money crimes, scams, the stuff we're seeing now, online, those are really hard to get people to confess to." -Evy Poumpouras
Step into the chilling world of criminal psychology with former Secret Service agent Evy Poumpouras as she shatters misconceptions about society's most feared individuals. Drawing from her extensive experience interviewing criminals, Evy reveals that serial killers and violent offenders are not the larger-than-life monsters often portrayed in media. Instead, she paints a startling picture of damaged individuals who target the vulnerable – children, women, and the elderly – exposing their true nature as cowards rather than apex predators.
Evy's insights extend beyond violent crimes to the increasingly prevalent world of financial scams. She uncovers the disturbing ease with which perpetrators justify their actions, especially in online fraud cases where the lack of physical contact numbs their conscience. Evy's compassionate approach shines through as she recounts heart-wrenching stories of elderly victims, emphasizing the devastating impact of these crimes on the most vulnerable members of society. Her unique perspective offers listeners a rare glimpse into the criminal mind, providing valuable awareness and protection strategies in an increasingly complex world.
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