The Seed Oil Panic Is Wrong: What Science Actually Says | Jessica Knurick

0:00Hi, my name is Lewis Howes and welcome to the Daily Motivation Show.

0:11is there certain types of oils that are better than others in general when using for cooking yeah so olive oil is is a good one um but also vegetable oils are fine to use for cooking so vegetable oil that's what the research would suggest vegetable oil is a seed oil is what i'm Yeah, yeah. All vegetable oil is seed oil? Yeah, so if you look at a vegetable oil, it'll have a bunch of different types of oil, and that will include seed oils. Interesting. Yeah. So it'll include like safflower oil, sunflower oil, canola oil. They call it rape seed oil in other countries. So all of those are considered seed oils and also vegetable oils.

0:54Gotcha. Yeah, so if you look on a label, a food label, it's not going to say seed oils. It's going to say either the individual oil or vegetable oil. Interesting. So based on research and science right now, putting vegetable oil in your stir fry or in your food when you're cooking it is not harmful. Is that what I'm hearing based on the research? Yeah. But everyone's saying that it's like the worst thing and you have to get it out of all your foods and protein bars and without seed oil, it's like your greatest discovery of all time or something. But that's just not the case based on science right now.

1:26It's just not, the evidence doesn't suggest that that's the case. So you're saying that it might be in the future if there's science that suggests, but right now there's no science. It's not just that there's no science. There's science showing that it's not harmful right now. Oh, interesting. So yeah. So I think that it's, we're getting in like a little bit of a difficult area because of how much social media tells us that it's so bad. You just believe it. It's in our head. Yeah. So then if we're eating it, we're thinking it's bad, you know, and like the whole psychology aspect of it. um and also you know like i think that the problem is is that like when you're again when you're consuming seed oils like if you have somebody who's like i'm gonna get rid of seed oils right and they're eating a standard american diet and they're like i'm gonna remove seed oils because that is the reason for all the health issues what are they gonna get rid of they're gonna they're not gonna be able to eat most low nutrient ultra processed foods anymore because like all your chips all your crackers like it's a good thing it all has like seed oils in it and so by nature of kind of like removing seed oils, you are kind of increasing the nutrient density of your diet.

2:28You're eating more whole foods. You're eating more whole foods and you're eating less low nutrient ultra processed food. Exactly. That has those oils in it. Yeah. And so by the nature of just focusing on seed oils, you're actually like improving your overall diet quality immensely for the most part. But removing seed oil from your cooking is not going to do anything necessarily. It's more of like from the ultra processed foods. Removing the processed foods that have seed oils is what's harmful. Yeah, because especially for most Americans who are over consuming those foods. We again, 70 % of our food environment is ultra processed foods, right?

3:05And so if we are eating the majority of our food as these low nutrient ultra processed foods, we are eating a lot of polyunsaturated fatty acids. And when you eat too much of anything, it's a problem. I mean, it sounds like you got into this field because of, you know, a personal pain that you went through. Seeing your grandfather go through this experience when he was quite young. It's still early 60s, right? Yeah. Right. Where do you think the system failed him? Did he have the information? Did he not have the information? Was it, you know, was he just, or was there some other factors there that we could have done better as a system to support him?

3:45Yeah, I think, I mean, I touched on it a little bit when we just like, you know, we thought we were doing the right thing by just kind of swapping out the goodies that he loved, right? Like cookies. For sugar-free, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we would just buy like sugar-free donuts. And so that was more of like an education deficit where we just kind of didn't know what the right thing was for him. I also think that, you know, he worked retail his whole life and then also worked a second job kind of like refurbishing cars. And so I think that it was kind of like a time deficit for him as well. No sleep.

4:19Yeah. And just like he didn't have a lot of time to prepare all of the meals. And so it was, I think, a combination of those things. I think education could have played a role. And it's just kind of, again, an environment. Midwest, I grew up in the Midwest. And, you know, we have kind of shaped through decades of policy culture. Yes. And so culture can be really tough to overcome. Fast food options and all that stuff. And a lot of times when I talk about these policies that could help to kind of like shift our food environment or our, you know, any sort of like public health kind of environment, people will push back and be like, well, this is part of our culture.

5:01And it's a valid criticism. It's true. It is part of our culture. But culture changes over time and it can change over time. So you're not going to see it's not like you're going to change like one policy and then everything's going to change. But over time, we can start to make policy kind of push culture in a bit of a different direction.

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