Why Success Doesn't Feel Real | Josh Groban

8 Sep 2025 · 7 min

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Podcast Summary: The Daily Motivation Episode Title: Why Success Doesn't Feel Real | Josh Groban Host: Lewis Howes Guest: Josh Groban Release Date: [Link to Full Episode](http://greatness.lnk.to/1818)

Podcast Description In "The Daily Motivation," host Lewis Howes emphasizes the importance of the stories we tell ourselves in shaping our identities. The show features insights from industry leaders, proven motivational principles, and transformative ideas aimed at helping listeners achieve and maintain motivation in their lives.

Episode Overview Josh Groban, a Grammy-nominated artist, shares a candid reflection on the dichotomy between external success and internal struggles. He discusses his experiences of performing to enthusiastic audiences while grappling with self-doubt and emotional turmoil.

Key Themes

  • Disconnect Between Success and Internal Experience:
  • Groban reveals the "haunting reality" of achieving success amidst personal struggles.
  • He highlights the paradox of receiving standing ovations while feeling empty and criticized internally.
  • Mental Health and Performance:
  • Groban shares insights into his mental health journey, noting that the pressure to perform can lead to feelings of isolation and shame after shows.
  • He describes a pattern where post-performance blues ("low power mode") set in, causing him to withdraw instead of celebrating.
  • Vulnerability in Performance:
  • The adrenaline of performing helps him connect with audiences, but it also leaves him emotionally exposed.
  • Groban expresses jealousy towards performers who can easily transition into after-show celebrations.

Key Takeaways

  • Self-Criticism: Groban reflects on the origins of his self-doubt, attributing it to being a young artist exposed to heavy emotional music without the life experience to cope with it.
  • Emotional Complexity: He acknowledges singing serious, emotionally charged music at a young age created an ongoing sense of inadequacy.
  • Need for Self-Acceptance: Groban emphasizes that learning to stay present with his achievements is crucial for his mental well-being.

Quotes

  • "There have been shows where I have had to get out of my own way to enjoy what I've just done."
  • "I go into low power mode... it has trained me a little bit to protect from disappointment."
  • "This might not stay. They’re going to be on to you."

Conclusion In this episode, Josh Groban's vulnerability provides a powerful commentary on the often-unseen struggles that accompany public success. His journey serves as a reminder that internal battles can coexist with external achievements, resonating with anyone who has felt like an imposter in their success.

Additional Information

  • Upcoming Event: The Summit of Greatness will take place on September 12-13, 2025.
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0:00We just confirmed that Andrew Huberman is coming to the Summit of Greatness, along with some other amazing speakers. We've got Dr. Tara Sward, Brendan Burchard, Gabby Bernstein, Amy Purdy, and some huge entertainers and performers. Make sure to get your tickets right now. Summit of Greatness is happening September 12th and 13th here in Hollywood. I can't wait to see you there. Hi, my name is Lewis Howes, and welcome to The Daily Motivation Show.

0:35when has been a moment in your career where it was like the biggest success was happening but you felt like you were at your lowest place mentally emotionally physically did you ever have those feelings or moments where it's like man i'm crushing it like to the world but internally i feel like i'm really struggling you know i i'm sure i could pinpoint a couple of those but honestly that has happened more off more more times that i could actually kind of say that there have been moments where i have been going through my own uh mental health journey on stage really that is so polar opposite from the experience that the audience is getting um i know you're going through it are you expressing it no so you're just in your mind going through it i can tell you now that i have distance from those evenings that i was crushing it that the shows were great and in those moments there have been times where I can't even like talk to anybody for like an hour after the show because I'm just I'm in this like shame spiral of self criticism that is can go so deep that has nothing to do with the reality and I think you know I talk to a lot of performers and people that are that have high pressure performance jobs, whether it's in the arts or sports or whatever.

2:01And there is a certain place that is like an adrenaline place or whatever it is that your your fight or flight that your brain has to access so often when you do that many shows that sometimes the nights where you're crushing it the most are actually the ones where you're kind of on the fringe a little bit and your your vulnerability is kind of taken a hit and you're you're feeling a little too wide open and there's a lot of stuff that's coming in and there's a lot and that means that there's some darkness that comes into and so there have been shows where um i have had to get out of my own way to enjoy what i've what i've just done but i also have a tendency sometimes to when i step off of a stage and it's like there's like two different people when i'm on stage there is something i can tap into that really knows how to ride the wave and ride the energy that's happening up there and work the stage and then i've just for better for worse i've never been one of those people that can take the party back off stage with me i i i have so much jealousy for those artists that there is an after party and it's like let's keep celebrating what this whole thing was man yeah let's have drinks and let's talk about how great the night was and let's talk about how you know and i've just never been i've just never been that person what happens for you typically after a performance kind of like a battery overload like shutdown mode it like like drained you i go into low power mode interesting and i and i it is has trained me a little bit i think that there's a not a small part of it that has to do with um protecting from disappointment or maybe it wasn't quite the way i thought it was out there or maybe i read a few you know too many negative things when i was younger and it just taught me like, ah, don't get too high after a show.

3:45Stay right here, you know? Interesting. But for whatever reason, I've just always, I've always let out everything that I possibly have to give out there. And then afterwards, I just don't let myself celebrate it too much. Wow. And, you know, that's still something I need to work on. Where do you think the self-criticism or self-doubt comes from?

4:09You know, it's hard to say. I had the most supportive parents. I've had the most supportive parents I could possibly have. I always thank my teachers when I'm on stage. I had supportive choir teachers, theater teachers. I was lifted by a lot of people early on in my life that I have the most thanks for and always give thanks to those people. I don't know. It could be you know that I was just a very young 16 year old when I had to do very heady things yeah the music that I was singing at a young age was not like a 16 year olds like emotional music stuff no it wasn't fun it wasn't like it wasn't light and peppy and poppy it was like serious business and I was singing for you know audiences that had lived a life that I had not lived yet and singing hard music.

5:05I had no pyrotechnics or dancers or anything. It was just, hey, this kid's gonna, you know, blow your mind with this high note, you know? And it was, if I wasn't feeling good, I just, I think that it was just because it was hard. It was harder for me than I think I was ready to do. I still did it because I had a certain amount of natural talent that I was able to push through anyway, but I hadn't caught up yet technique-wise and emotional-wise and just life experience-wise. And so I think it just kind of baked into my psyche a certain level of always teetering on the edge of this might not be, this might not stay.

5:41You know, this is, they're going to be on to you. At some point, they're going to be on to you. And so, you know, there can be a lot of trappings when you're just blowing a lot of hot air and you just think you're the best all the time. I think that there's, I've seen a lot of people get into trouble that way too. Sure. I had the other extreme.

6:07Thank you so much for listening to today's episode of The Daily Motivation, and I hope you have an amazing rest of your day. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to click the link in the description. That will take you to the full episode of our main podcast on The School of Greatness. And if you are loving The Daily Motivation, please follow us over on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave us a review over on Apple podcast right now. And if you want more exclusive content and ad free listening experience, make sure to subscribe to our greatness plus channel on Apple podcast right now. And if you want to get even more inspiration from our world class guests and learn how to improve your life and take it to the next level, then make sure to sign up for the greatness newsletter and get it delivered right to your inbox over at greatness.com slash newsletter.

6:58Again, have an amazing day and I'll see you tomorrow with another episode of the Daily Motivation Show.

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"There have been shows where I have had to get out of my own way to enjoy what I've just done." - Josh Groban

Josh Groban reveals the haunting reality behind his soaring career - standing ovations that feel hollow, crushing performances followed by hour-long shame spirals where he can't speak to anyone. The Grammy-nominated artist opens up about the terrifying disconnect between external triumph and internal torment, describing how the very adrenaline that makes him brilliant on stage can leave him feeling "too wide open" to darkness afterward. At just 16, he was singing emotionally complex music for audiences who had lived experiences he hadn't, setting up a psychological pattern where success always felt borrowed, temporary, like someone might discover he didn't belong.

This raw conversation cuts through the mythology of achievement to expose what happens when your biggest victories coincide with your deepest struggles. Josh's honesty about going into "low power mode" after performances, his jealousy of artists who can celebrate their wins, and his fear of being "found out" will resonate with anyone who's ever felt like a fraud in their own success story. His journey toward learning to stay present for his achievements offers hope for anyone trapped between what the world sees and what they feel inside.

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