

Stoic reflection on fate and reversals—“someone else is spinning the thread”—using Seneca and the Greek goddess Clotho to argue that triumph and trials transform into each other, so no one can guarantee tomorrow.
don’t overtrust success; don’t despair during hardship; surrender control to fate; unexpected events can be good or bad; life changes “in an instant.”
Seneca’s exile news followed by eight years later being recalled to tutor the future emperor; Marcus Aurelius’s reminder to let Clotho “spin your web.”
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1:00Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.
1:14November 6th, someone else is spinning the thread. If the breaking day sees someone proud, the ending day sees them brought low. No one should put too much trust in triumph. No one should give up hope of trials improving. Totho mixes one with the other and stops fortune from resting, spinning every fate around. No one has had so much divine favor that they could guarantee themselves tomorrow. God keeps our lives hurtling on, spinning in a whirlwind. Seneca, Thaestes, verse 613. The news came one day that Seneca was to be exiled. Yet some eight years later, a letter came recalling him to Rome to tutor the future emperor.
2:05Unexpected events can be good as well as bad. The gods giveth and taketh away. Specifically to the ancients Clotho, one of the three Greek goddesses of fate who spins the thread of human life. To the ancients, she was the one who decided the course of events in our lives. Some good, some bad. Surrender yourself completely to clotho, Marcus Aurelius reminded himself. Let her spin your web out of whatever events she wishes. This resigned attitude might seem strange to us today, but even the most powerful man in the world understood who was really in control. Not him, not us. No amount of prosperity, no amount of difficulty is certain or forever.
2:55A triumph becomes a trial. A trial becomes a triumph. Life can change in an instant. Remember today how often it does. You can grab the Daily Stoic 10th Anniversary Edition in signed and numbered first edition hardcovers, which we have at dailystoke.com slash ds10. We also have a new edition of The Leather Bound. I just recorded the audio book, which you can grab all of that, dailystoic.com slash DS10. Thank you all for your support of the book, for your support of this email, for your support of this podcast. It means so much. I did not think we would be here 10 years later, but here we are, and that means the world to me.
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No amount of prosperity, no amount of difficulty is certain or forever. A triumph becomes a trial. A trial becomes a triumph. Life can change in an instant.
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