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2 Jul 2023 · 13m

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Epictetus - Discourses Pt. 1

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  • Host: Ryan Holiday
  • Guest Reader: Michael Reid
  • Format: Audiobook reading of excerpts from the Discourses of Epictetus
  • Focus: Practical advice from Epictetus on understanding what is within our control and what is not.
  • Background:
  • Epictetus was born a slave and experienced significant adversity throughout his life, which shapes his Stoic philosophy.
  • His teachings were recorded by his pupil, Arrian, making them accessible despite Epictetus himself not writing anything down.

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1:52Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoic Podcast. On Sundays, we take a deeper dive into these ancient topics with excerpts from the Stoic texts, audiobooks that we like here or recommend here at Daily Stoic, and other long-form wisdom that you can chew on on this relaxing weekend. We hope this helps shape your understanding of this philosophy, and most importantly, that you're able to apply it to your actual life. Thank you for listening.

2:35Hey, it's Ryan Holiday. Welcome to another weekend episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast. We've talked about Epictetus here quite a bit. Actually, we just rolled out this really cool new YouTube video about Epictetus's Secrets for Resilience. You can check that out at youtube.com slash daily stoic. But Epictetus is fascinating because unlike all the other Stoics, he actually experienced profound and real adversity without any of the privileges that would have balanced out the life of Marcus Aurelius or Seneca or Cato, right? He's born a slave. He spends 30 years in slavery. In fact, even his name, Epictetus, it means acquired one.

3:13Like, this dude doesn't even get his own name. Now, Epictetus doesn't write anything down as far as we know. Epictetus that we're going to hear from today, even the Epictetus that Marcus Aurelius quotes in his meditations, is coming to us from lecture notes from his students. Was Marcus's from his philosophy teacher Rusticus? Are these Rusticus's notes? Or is Rusticus himself just handing Marcus Aurelius the notes from Arian, who also writes It's a fascinating book about Alexander the Great, who was a favorite of Hadrian, the emperor. Anyways, that's why Epictetus' work is called The Discourses, because it's the lecture notes.

3:52It's what Epictetus is talking about in his philosophy school in Nicopolis in Greece, the early second century AD. And there's a bunch of different translations. I like the Penguin Classics translation. Robin Waterfeld has a new translation of Epictetus. It's also quite good. In today's episode, we're reading one from an older translation. This is going to be read to us by Michael Reed, who's been doing a bunch of awesome voiceover work for Daily Stoic, including the Epictetus video that I mentioned earlier. but Epictetus starts at the beginning, right? He says, this is about what's in our control and what isn't, how to make use of what's in our power and treat the rest as something we accept, something we put up with, something we come to terms with, something we find out how to use, how to be made better for having gone through, which is all the more poignant, again, when you think about what Epictetus went through in his life, the things he had to come to terms with, things he had to accept.

4:50you know, he's not being glib about it. He's not talking about being stuck in traffic, right? He's talking about his lame leg, which was broken by a cruel slave master. He's talking about the years of his life that were stolen. He's talking about the injustices of the society that he lives in, which came down so hard on him. So I wanted to bring you some thoughts directly from Epictetus himself, although not direct. Epictetus gives his lectures, Arian, and other students write them down. Then these get translated and translated and translated, and then they were read. And then this excerpt from book one of Epictetus' Discourses is brought to you by Daily Stoic and Michael Reed, and you can grab any of the translations of Epictetus from The Painted Porch, grab them anywhere books are sold.

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6:50Book one concerning what is in our power and what is not. In general, you will find no art or faculty that can analyze itself. Therefore, none that can approve or disapprove of itself. The art of grammar is restricted to analyzing and commenting on literature. Music is conned to the analysis of harmony. Consequently, neither of them analyzes itself. Now, if you're writing to a friend, the art of grammar will help you decide what words to use. But it will not tell you whether it is a good idea to write to your friend in the first place. Music is no different. Whether this is a good time to sing and play or a bad one, the art of music by itself cannot decide.

7:46So what can? The faculty that analyzes itself as well as the others, namely the faculty of reason. Reason is unique among the faculties assigned to us in being able to evaluate itself, what it is, what it is capable of, how valuable it is. in addition to passing judgment on others. What decides whether a sum of money is good? The money is not going to tell you. It must be the faculty that makes use of such impressions. Reason. Reason, in addition, takes the measure of music, grammar, and the other arts, judging their benet, and deciding when it's best to use them. So it's only appropriate that the gods have given us the best and most eacacious gift, the ability to make good use of impressions.

8:45Other capacities, they did not put in our power. Was it because they did not want to? Personally, I believe that they would have endowed us with those others too, had they been able. But they were not. Since we are on earth, you see Bound to a material body and material things We can hardly avoid being limited by these extraneous factors Well, what does Zeus say? Epictetus, if it were possible I would have made your little body and possessions both free and unrestricted As it is though, make no mistake this body does not belong to you. It is only cunningly constructed clay. And since I could not make the body yours, I have given you a portion of myself instead.

9:47The power of positive and negative impulse, of desire and aversion. The power, in other words, of making good use of impressions. If you take care of it and identify with it, you will never be blocked or frustrated. You won't have to complain and never will need to blame or alter anyone. Is that enough to satisfy you? It's more than enough, thank you. And yet, while there is only the one thing we can care for and devote ourselves to. We choose instead to care about and attach ourselves to a score of others, to our bodies, to our property, to our family, friends, and slaves. And, being attached to many things, we are weighed down and dragged along with them.

10:46If the weather keeps us from traveling, We sit down, fret, and keep asking, which way is the wind blowing? From the north? That's no good. When will it blow from the west? When it wants to. Or rather, when Aeolus wants it to. Because God put Aeolus in charge of the winds, not you. What should we do then? Make the best use of what is in our power. and treat the rest in accordance with its nature. And what is its nature? However God decides.

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13:03Must I be beheaded now and alone? Well, do you want everyone to be beheaded just because misery loves company? Why not hold out your neck the way Lateranus did in Rome when condemned by Nero to be beheaded? He held out his neck willingly to take the blow, but the blow was decent so he recoiled a bit but then had enough self-command to offer his neck a second time. The grounds of his conspiracy he replied if I want anything I will tell it to your master. What should we have ready at hand in a situation like this? The knowledge of what is mine and what is not mine and what I can and cannot do. I must die but must I die bawling I must be put in chains but moaning and groaning too I must be exiled but is there anything to keep me from going with a smile calm and self-composed tell us your secrets I refuse as this is up to me I will put you in chains What's that you say, friend?

14:27It's only my leg you will chain Not even God can conquer my will I will throw you in prison Correction It is my body you will throw there I will behead you Well, when did I ever claim that mine was the only neck that couldn't be severed? That's the kind of attitude you need to cultivate if you would be a philosopher, the sort of sentiments you should write down every day and put in practice. Thrasia used to say, I would sooner be killed today than banished tomorrow. And what did Musonius say to him? If you choose death because it is the greater evil, what sense is there in that? or if you choose it as the lesser evil, remember who gave you the choice.

15:27Why not try coming to terms with what you have been given? Agrippinus used to say, I don't add to my troubles. To illustrate, someone once said to him, You are being tried in the Senate. Good luck. But it was eleven in the morning, and at that hour he was in the habit of taking his bath and exercise. Let us be to exercise. When he was done, word came that he had been condemned. To exile, he asked, or death? Exile. In my estate, what about that? It has not been confiscated. Well then, let us go to my villa in Orisha and have lunch there. This shows what is possible when we practice what is necessary and make our desire and aversion safe against any setback or adversity.

16:30I have to die. If it is now, well then I die now. If later, then now I will take my lunch, since the hour for lunch has arrived. And dying, I will tend to later. How? As someone who knows that you have to return what belongs to somebody else.

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From the publisher

In today’s audiobook reading, Ryan presents an excerpt from one of the seminal texts of Stoicism, the Discourses of Epictetus, read by Michael Reid. As a series of lectures given by Epictetus that were written down by his pupil Arrian in 108 A.D., these discourses provide practical advice to think on and practice in order to move oneself closer toward the ultimate goal of living free and happy. This first section encompasses Epictetus’s teachings on what we should do about what is in our power and what is not.

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