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6 Apr 2026 · 8m · 4 chapters

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It’s Not Only Always Been Like This, It’s Always Been Worse | Trust But Verify

In short

The episode argues that today’s problems aren’t unprecedented or uniquely bad; instead, listeners should “zoom out,” feel gratitude, and respond to impressions by pausing and verifying them (Epictetus: test impressions before acting). It also applies this to everyday irritations, interpreting others’ tone, and reframing obstacles as opportunities (“the obstacle is the way”).

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No guests are mentioned; the host speaks directly and references his therapist and personal family moments.

Key claims

History was worse (ancient Greece/Rome had disasters, tyranny, systemic injustice). Modern people benefit from medicine/knowledge. The mind quickly categorizes; instincts can be biased, so verify. Emotions aren’t absent; reactivity is reduced by reflection.

Notable examples

Driving to the gym vs using home training; misreading a rude email tone; bedtime interruption reframed as a chance for a second moment with his son.

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Chapters

0:45

Historical Perspective on Suffering

Discussion on the historical context of human suffering and societal issues.

“It's not only always been like this, it's probably always been worse.”
1:50

The State of Modern Society

Contrasting today’s challenges with those of the past, highlighting progress.

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4:16

Trust But Verify: A Stoic Principle

Exploration of the Stoic principle 'trust but verify' and its application.

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9:00

Reflections on Daily Life and Stoicism

Personal reflections on parenting and applying Stoic principles in life.

“the better and happier you will be, the more stoic you will be.”
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0:00Ryan Holiday: Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key Stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.

0:14Ryan Holiday: It's not only always been like this, it's always been worse. It's not new, okay? Ancient Greece had earthquakes and horrible storms and natural disasters. People suffered, people were killed, People stole the money intended to help those people. Ancient Rome had tyrants and bullies. It had pointless cruelty and systemic injustices. For centuries, people have fought over minuscule differences. Their governments have been dysfunctional. Their traditions seem like they were falling apart. Stuff was changing. Stuff was stressful. Stuff sucked. It's not only always been like this, it's probably always been worse.

0:52Ryan Holiday: You can look out at the news and despair about things, or you can zoom out and see progress. You can focus on bad people and miss that the bad people today are almost certainly better than the bad people back then. Even the people you disagree with and dislike politically are not selling their enemies into slavery, sending children to work in mines or doing science experiments on minorities. Things that were not only common in Zeno and Mark Surrealis' time, but common enough not that long ago. You live in a time of abundance and medicine and knowledge and opportunity. things that the Stoics could not have imagined in their wildest dreams.

1:27Ryan Holiday: So yes, see what is broken. Yes, work to make it better. But do so with gratitude and not despair. Do so with the understanding that you inherited a world improved by generations before you, and now it's your turn to leave it better than you found it.

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4:24Trust, but verify. Today's quote is from Epictetus' Discourses 218. He says, first off, don't let the force of an impression carry you away. Say to it, hold up a bit. Let me see who you are, where you are from. Let me put you to the test. One of the wonders of your mind is the quickness with which it can comprehend and categorize things. As Malcolm Gladwell wrote in Blink, we are constantly making split-second decisions based on years of experience and knowledge, as well as using the same skill to confirm prejudices, stereotypes, and assumptions. Clearly, the former thinking is a source of strength, whereas the latter is a great weakness.

5:12We lose very little, though, by taking a beat to consider our own thoughts. Is it really so bad? What do I really know about this person? Why do I have such strong feelings here? Is anxiety really adding much to the situation? What's so special about? By asking these questions, by putting our impressions to the test, as Epictetus recommends, we're less likely to be carried away by them or make a move based on a mistaken or biased one. We're still free to use our instincts, but we should always, as the Russian proverb says, trust but verify. You know, it is funny, right? I think the impression of the Stoics is that they have no emotions, that they're unfeeling, unflinching.

6:02I don't really think that is it at all. I think they're not as immediately reactive or emotional because they do this. They stop and they think about it. They stop and they question. They put it to the test. one of the things my therapist has said you know you start to say something and she cuts me off she goes no preface it with what I make up about that is right because like it's so easy to take what we're about to say

6:35Ryan Holiday: or what we think as verifiable indisputable fact when it's really opinion when it's really an assumption when it's really a stereotype when it's really an extrapolation An inference. It's not real. And once you put it to the test, you go, oh yeah, this isn't really based on anything. I've made this up. I'm guessing. I'm basing it on past experience. And when I stop and go, hey, is this really so bad? Is this really what I think it is? What do I know about this? Hey, buddy. Sorry, my son just came out of his room. can you go in your room? I'll send mom in. This is making super entertaining, super entertaining episode.

7:25Ryan Holiday: I think I'm going to leave this all in for you. So you just get, you guys get a taste of, of what my life is. You know, even, even stuff like that, right? I try to, you know, maybe sometimes your first instinct is, oh, this is an inconvenience. Oh, this is annoying. Oh, this is not how it's supposed to be. And then you stop and you go, but is that true? Actually, is it an opportunity? To me, that's what Marx realized is reminding himself with that idea of the obstacle is the way, right? You go, okay, yes, I can see it this way as a problem, as not how I want things to be, as an inconvenience or whatever.

7:58And then actually you can stop and think, no, it's this chance to do something. It's a chance for things to go differently. It's a chance to do it again. Like as I'm seriously, I'm going to wrap this up here in just a minute. And then I'm going to go in and get a second chance to lay with my son as he goes to bed. And that's not annoying. That's not a problem. No, this is important. These are arbitrarily made up things to begin with, right? But that's not how I always think about them. That's not how I necessarily think about them naturally. But it's taking this second to put it to the test, to think about it, to question it.

8:34And that's true for the email that you just got that had a rude tone. Did it have a rude tone or did it have no tone at all? And that's what you thought was rude. Did it have a rude tone? Because that's the voice in your head, not what was coming across. What did this person mean? What's a nice way to interpret it, right? You can put all these impressions, assumptions to the test, and you should. And the more that you do that, the better and happier you will be, the more stoic you will be. Now, sometimes that initial instinct is correct. That's what that expression, trust, but verify means. you verify.

9:12Sometimes you're right, sometimes you're not, but you got to do that work. And you understand that, you know, your mind is not always your friend and your impressions are not always right. When you go, I trust my gut, do you deserve to trust that gut, right? Have you done the work that warrants that? Or would just a little more investigation, a little pause, a little more thinking, would that actually make everything better? I think that it would. So with that, I'll close up today's episode. I'm not going to record anymore. I'm going to go get a second crack at bedtime. And I hope that you are probably listening to this in the morning.

9:52So I'll wish you a good day and talk to y 'all soon.

10:00Ryan Holiday: hey it's ryan thank you for listening to the daily stoic podcast i just wanted to say we so appreciate it we love serving you it's amazing to us that over 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple years we've been doing it it's an honor please spread the word tell people about it and this isn't to sell anything i just wanted to say thank you

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