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19 May 2025 · 9m

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This Is What It Gave You | with Learn, Practice, Train

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In this episode, Ryan Holiday explores the challenges of parenting through a Stoic lens, emphasizing the importance of learning, practicing, and training in both parenting and philosophical principles. The podcast underscores the compensations that come from life's challenges and the necessity of consistent practice to internalize Stoic teachings.

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0:05Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we bring you a Stoic inspired meditation designed to help you find strength and insight and wisdom into everyday life. Each one of these episodes is based on the 2 ,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women, to help you learn from them, to follow in their example, and to start your day off with a little dose of courage and discipline and justice and wisdom. For more, visit dailystoic.com.

0:56This is what it gave you. Parenting can present us some of our greatest tests. Your son has dyslexia. Your oldest has behavioral issues. The youngest is on the spectrum. your daughter has a chronic health issue. Your kid has trouble regulating emotions. These are challenges to be sure, challenges for you, challenges for them. It's not easy and it's not cheap. There are accommodations you'll have to make. There will be things you need to buy. There will be things that you and they will not get to do. There will be heartbreak, heartbreak that both Marcus Aurelius and Seneca experienced after the devastating loss of their own children far too young.

1:38But as always, the Stoics remind us that everything has its compensation if we choose to see it, if we choose to welcome it. The challenges we face as parents become our greatest teachers and guides. You'll have moments at the dialysis center that years from now you wouldn't trade for anything. You'll develop patience and resilience that you could not have otherwise imagined. And they will too. You will learn how to advocate for yourself and for them. You'll come face to face with this thing called acceptance. You will understand what it means to love, to really love unconditionally. This thing with your kid, you wouldn't have wished for it.

2:19You wouldn't have wished it on them or indeed on any other parent. And yet you are coming to see that it gave you something, gave you perspective on what truly matters, on what real strength looks like. It gave you connection to your child, to yourself, to others who have gone down this road. It gave you purpose to fight for them, to guide them, to help them navigate a world that isn't always built for them. And most of all, it gave you love. Not the easy, effortless kind, but the kind forged through trials, the kind that endures, the kind that in the end makes it all worth it. And by the way, if you didn't know, we also have a parenting daily email and daily podcast called The Daily Dad, which like The Daily Stoic is built on one piece of ancient wisdom every day applied to life practically.

3:09There's a Daily Dad book that came out, what, a year and a half ago. There's a cool leather edition too. You can grab all those at store.dailydad.com. I'll sign one if you want. And you can sign up for free for the Daily Dad email and the Daily Dad podcast if you want to add another little minute or two ritual to your day. And we do a weekend deep dive. Sometimes it's me and my wife. Sometimes it's me interviewing people. Sometimes it's me doing solo stuff, sort of things I'm struggling with going through as a parent. I would say, you know, Daily Dad is probably the thing people come up to me most about these days, which is really cool because I've gotten so much out of doing it.

3:45Enjoy.

3:54We just took our kids to an outdoor performance at The Nutcracker. They had a snow cone, and then they went insane in the car ride home. And one of the things I try to remind myself when that's happening is that I don't control my kids' behavior, especially when they're too far gone like that, but I do control how I respond, right? That's stoicism, but it's also what Dr. Becky talks about. Dr. Becky is a clinical psychologist and a best-selling author, and she founded Good Inside, which is there to give parents practical, actionable tools for handling those everyday challenges with confidence.

4:29My wife introduced me to Dr. Becky's books. I love them. I've recommended them a million times. I've had her on the podcast. And as it happens, Dr. Becky is hosting two live Q &A events for good inside members. I am one of them. She signed me up for it about a year and a half ago. I've loved it ever since. On December 1st, you can join Dr. Becky for her How Not to Raise Assholes event, which is about avoiding entitlement and raising kind, empathetic kids. And on December 15th, she's hosting her How Not to Lose It over the holidays event, which I'm sure we could all use. As I said, I'm a big fan of Dr.

5:06Becky. She's been a great influence for me as a parent and just as a human being. And Daily Stoic listeners can join for 15 % off with code STOIC15. You just got to head over to goodinside.com to catch the events. Learn, practice, train. This is today's entry, May 19th, from the Daily Stoic. And the first quote comes to us from Epictetus 219 in the Discourses. That's why philosophers warn us not to be satisfied with mere learning, but to add practice and then training, he says. For as time passes, we forget what we learned and end up doing the opposite, and hold opinions the opposite of what we should hold.

5:47And then we meditate. Very few people can simply watch an instructional video or hear something explained and then know backward and forward how to do it. Most of us actually have to do something several times in order to truly learn. One of the hallmarks of the martial arts, military training, athletic training of almost any kind is the hours upon hours of monotonous practice. An athlete at the highest level will train for years to perform movements that can last mere seconds or less. The two-minute drill, how to escape from a chokehold, the perfect jumper, simply knowing isn't enough. It must be absorbed into the muscles in the body.

6:24It must become part of us, or we risk losing it the second we experience stress or difficulty. And this is true with philosophical principles as well. You can't just hear something once and expect to rely on it when the world is crashing down around us. Remember, Mark Surrealis wasn't writing his meditations for other people. He was actively meditating for himself. Even as a successful wise and experienced man, he was until the last days of his life practicing and training to do the right thing. Like a black belt, he was still showing up to the dojo every day to roll. Like a professional athlete, he still showed up to practice each week, even though others thought it was unnecessary.

7:04Admiral James Stavridis, sort of framework for responding well to the crucible of decision. And he says that you have to prepare in advance, right? In the military, you don't rise to the occasion. You sink to the level of your training. You have to meditate on this stuff over and over and over again. And he says two big things. He says, one, you have to know what you believe. You have to know your standards. He talks about sailing true north. He's basically saying, what's true north? What do you believe? What do you ascribe to, right? And that's partly why we study the Stoics, to learn what we hold sacred or dear, what the right thing is.

7:43And he says, you also have to know yourself, what you're capable of, what your weaknesses are, what your tendencies are, what your biases are. So then in that moment of stress or difficulty or pressure, you know what you need to think about, what you need to turn to, what you default to. Epictetus says that the key of stoicism is so that when life hits you with stuff, you're able to say, this is what I trained for. And I think Epictetus is reminding us though that it's not a single preparation, that if you prepare once, the second you stop, entropy is working on that preparation. There's an expiration date to it.

8:25You have to constantly be updating and reinforcing and adding and reevaluating and going over it, over it, over it. And that's what meditations is to me. It's Marcus Aurelius saying stuff that he already knows. He knows this stuff. He's studied it a bazillion times. He's heard it a billion times, but he's playing his scales each morning. He's reviewing his note cards before the test each day, right? He's going back over the advice from his father and stepfather and mentors and heroes, he's getting it fresh in his mind. He's reminding himself of who he is, what he needs to do, what true north is.

9:07So that in those moments of crisis, in his case, a war, a flood, a coup, all this stuff, he was there. And think about Epictetus, right? First off, he studies and learns Stoicism while he's a slave, becomes a philosopher. But then, right, exile comes for him. And he has to go through that again if he hadn't been preparing and thinking and talking, keeping these thoughts at hand. That's the other Stoke idea, to write these things down, talk about them, post them up, go through it over and over and over again. Keep it top of mind. That's what this is about. That's what we're doing here at Daily Stoke.

9:42That's why this is a daily practice. That's why I wrote the daily book. That's why the journal is there. It's about the daily practice and the daily training of it. And I hope you avail yourself of it so when that moment comes, when you find yourself in the crucible of decision, you can do what you need to do. You can meet destiny as it hopes you will. That's the thought for today. And I'll talk to you soon.

10:08Hey, it's Ryan. Thank you for listening to the Daily Stoic podcast. I just wanted to say, we so appreciate it. We love serving you. It's amazing to us that over 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple years we've been doing it. It's an honor. Please spread the word, tell people about it. And this isn't to sell anything. I just wanted to say thank you.

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