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Tom Segura Tours The Painted Porch

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In this episode of The Daily Stoic, Ryan Holiday engages in a lively discussion with comedian Tom Segura while touring The Painted Porch, a bookstore where they explore various books, particularly those focused on World War II. The conversation weaves through literature, personal interests, and insights into the Stoic philosophy.

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2:27Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoic Podcast. On Sundays, we take a deeper dive into these ancient topics with excerpts from the Stoic texts, audiobooks that we like here or recommend here at Daily Stoic, and other long-form wisdom that you can chew on on this relaxing weekend. We hope this helps shape your understanding of this philosophy, and most importantly, that you're able to apply it to your actual life. Thank you for listening.

3:05Hey, it's Ryan Holiday. Welcome to another Sunday episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast. So obviously, you know, we record next door, not in the bookstore for the podcast. Originally, when we set up the painted porch, the idea was we'd use it as a studio space where I'd record stuff. Well, the bookstore is a, you know, a champagne problem. The bookstore's done so good, we can't shut it down to record stuff. And, you know, even when we would, we'd shut the doors and people would be like banging on the door, trying to get in, peering through the windows. It's all very distracting. Again, it's wonderful.

3:38I love that you're all coming, but we had to set up some studio space to start doing the podcast. We do that next door. but everyone who comes in when we do them in person they want to walk around the bookstore and we end up talking about books in the interview and so sort of at the end we've I've started as I wrap up the interviews I go you want to go check out some books and we walk next door and we check out books and we just talk for a while and we started realizing a bunch of good stuff is happening and if you're a reader like me it's a great way to find out about books and hear what people thought about them or interesting takes on them so we mic up now and we walk over to the bookstore.

4:14And I think one of the first guests we did that with was Tom Segura, the comedian. If you haven't seen his new special Sledgehammer, it's very good. He's got a wonderful book, I'd Like to Play Alone, Please, which we carry in the bookstore. As it happens, two of the college age kids that work in the bookstore are huge Tom Segura fans. And they were like, can we work that day? We really want him to sign our copy. So he came in and did that. And we just walked around the bookstore. He told me he was really looking for more books on World War II. So that's mostly what we talked about, although some Steven Pressfield and some Rick Rubin pop in there.

4:47And here's me and Tom Segura walking around the Painted Porch, riffing on, talking about books. Hopefully you find some that you like in here that you haven't read. And of course, I'll link to those copies in the show notes. But grab them anywhere books are sold. The idea of The Painted Porch is it's only books that I love, that I've read, or my wife has thread that we really like, that we highly recommend. And so this is basically what happens if you come to the Painted Porch and I'm there or she's there and you go, what should I read? This is sort of the treatment that you'd end up getting. Well, this is me giving it to Tom Segura.

5:19You can follow his podcast, Two Bears and Your Mom's House with his wife, Christina P., who's also been on the podcast. And if you want to listen to my big interview with Tom, that was, I guess, last year. I'll link to that also. But in the meantime, here's me and Tom Segura walking through the painted porch talking books

5:44not yet what got you into world war ii uh documentaries did you watch the ken burns documentary i don't know who made it uh there's like a long ken burns documentary about world war ii that's like maybe the best It would have been his. We'll do Walter Ward's Dunkirk, which is incredible. And then he has Day of Infamy, which is about Pearl Harbor. And then did you read Splendid and the Vile? Yeah. Alright, that's about the Blitz. Oh, you know the thing is I've been talking about the Blitz? Really? Yeah, and I haven't read it. But I talk about it on stage. What were you talking about? British slang and how it originated from the Blitz and how Churchill addressed his secretary and that's the origin of it.

6:37Okay, so you got this one's incredible. Splendid in the Bile is about how basically the Blitz is the worst thing that ever happened but also brings out the best of people as it's happening. Yeah. So it's really incredible. If you get into Churchill, there's a three-part Churchill series but they're about 800 pages each so that might be too much. Have you ever studied or learned about the Battle of Midway? Yes, there's a book. Let me see if I have. I don't know if Justin is here. We should have to see it.

7:15Thank you for signing those. Look through some of these right here. Yeah, or whichever. Oh, anywhere? Yeah, you don't have to book in the sections? Yeah, yeah. There's kind of a thing that we will... So I would do... These are the World War II books I would spell. This is about Dunkirk, which is like the craziest thing that ever happened, which is how they got like almost 200 ,000 British people off the beach when they were pinned in France. So like, you know when he does his famous speech about how we're fighting on the beaches? This is them first, they have to rescue the British Army, which is caught in France.

7:55And this is about Pearl Harbor, which is incredible. And this is Memoir of the Pacific, which is good. And then this is... By the way, have you read this? Yes, of course. It's great. It's pretty good. Is it on writing again? Yeah, it's his memoir about his... I would say Government Cheese is the stories between all the stories in the War of Art. So it's like what he was actually doing as he was learning all this. Okay, I'm buying this. He sent me a bunch of them. And then this one, I told this guy about... Because the joke in Sledgehammer about Confederate statues, you have to read this one. Okay, it's basically this dude he he goes to Lee University.

8:38He grows up in the south. He teaches at West Point And so he grows up thinking Robert Lee is one thing and then sort of comes to this realization Yes, and then he's the head of the The naming commission that's renaming they're like hey, maybe it's crazy that we named US military bases After literal traders. Yeah, and so that's his thing, but he wrote an amazing book. You would like that book Do you want to know something hilarious that I just learned about him? Yes. So, he grabs a few room in. Yes. And I've become president. And then he's like, hey, Rick wants to hang out with you. Yeah. I was like, I want to hang out with you.

9:14Yeah. I'm like, what's he like? He goes, he loves wrestling. I'm like, what? Yeah, he does. He loves wrestling. No, dude. Ten hours a week. That's his thing. Ten hours a week. And I go, what the fuck are you talking about? He's like, he says it's like the only thing that's real. because they know the outcome. He has this whole... Yeah, there's a whole intellectual crowd that's really into wrestling. Yeah, but that's news to me. Showtime about... no, stars about wrestling. How's the Stephen King look? It's pretty good. Are you a Bruce Springsteen fan? No, not at all. No, but I like that you asked me, and I'm glad that I was honest with you.

9:52Yeah, it's better to not pretend. Not a fan!

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10:53All right, you want to do this? Sure, sure. Day of Infamy, Dunkirk, these are the two Walter Lord books. Then we did With the Old Breed, which is about the War in the Pacific. Oh, and then Splendid in the Vile. This is the Eric Larson book, which is crazy good. Where did that one go? I know. Ah, Splendid in the Vile. This is about the Blitz in London. What are you doing? Well, let's see. All right, these are your World War II books. Your wife shamed us for reading fiction. She told us. She said to say hi and that she loves the set. Oh, really? I sent her a picture. Yeah, she was freaking out because of the Joan Didion table.

11:42Oh, really? Have you read his new stuff? Who? Is there a new one? I've never read any of his new stuff. Just the old ones. What are you looking for? What do you want? I would like to read and see. Do you mostly do physical or do you do audio books? I do mostly physical books. Okay.

12:11Have you read Shadow Divers? This is also a World War II book. Actually, this one's incredible. They are diving to get this German submarine that sunk off the coast of New Jersey. It's all about like deep sea diving. But it's a crazy good story. Really? Did you watch The Deepest Breath on, no, that doc on Netflix? It's about like free divers. Oh, no. It's fucking nuts. Free divers are fast. Dude, they're, they go so far? Yeah, like it's down four and a half minutes. And they black out on the way up. In Shadow Divers, they mix the oxygen with like some other gas. Here's one. Can I have this one?

12:51Okay. Here, I can hold it here. I'll have you take a picture of them. This is your welcome. Sorry. You should have brought it from Orient. No, no, no. Yeah, I'm just kidding. Um, you know I didn't tell you, I don't know if you saw this, I went up with the Blue Angels last week. Oh, really? In where? Pensacola. Oh, wow. Yeah. In F-18, we did like the full experience.

13:20Who's fired? Yeah.

13:26Do you know Steve Rinella at all? I know who he is. This book on buffalo, this you wouldn't think would be good, but it's actually incredible. He gets a tag to hunt a buffalo, and so he goes out to shoot it. It's a story about the species in America. This I love, by the way.

13:48I remember that was one of the first ones that I was like, you know, like I'm saying like my interest in it. Yes, yeah, yeah. And then when you read someone who's so good they make you care about the thing that they care about. I mean, I was like so blown away by it. Oh yeah, did you get government cheese? That was the other one you wanted. Yeah, I did. Did you read this one? Yeah, I've read all of them. You've read everything? All of them. Yeah, and they're very, very short. How's that one? It's good. I mean, when you have someone who's so good, I think Turning Pro is one of the best ones. But Government Chiefs is very good.

14:19You think which one? These two are his best. Oh, I didn't return it. I would do that one. Can I grab it? Yeah, of course. Oh, it's autographed. Yeah, you can mail them. No, these are the best. Wait, how many do I grab? I just have the two. Or in the new one at the... So for the three, then, it should be that and that. And then if I can have you take a picture. I'm sorry. Thank you.

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Tom Segura goes on a book tour of The Painted Porch to find the titles he is most interested in.

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