America’s Bio-Terror Blind Spot: Steve Gruber Exposes the Threats

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0:48Antidepressants, no dad, bad result. When I was in high school, I graduated in the 80s, mid 80s. We used to take guns to school. The difference between 1980 and 1985 and today is we didn't walk down the hall pulling the trigger. You go look at these kids that go through and kill their classmates. Oftentimes, they either have a weak or non-existent father figure. So they come from homes that don't have a dad. I want to clarify things for the fathers listening that are so busy doing other things with their friends, their gambling, their drinking. Just because you live in the house and you come home from work every day doesn't mean you're fucking present.

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1:29What's up? I'm here with my man, Steve Gruber. What's going on, man? Man, it is a busy time. It's nuts, isn't it? I mean, every place you look is a big story blowing up. Here's a big issue. Here's a big issue. Wait, we got something bigger over here. Hold my beer. We got more. For me, I've been a news junkie since I was a kid. My family, we used to sit around and watch the nightly news with Walter Cronkite, maybe a little before your time, maybe not. And by my dad, that was the deal. We'd sit there and we'd watch the nightly news. On Sunday nights, you watch 60 Minutes back when 60 Minutes mattered, which was a long time ago now.

2:02So that was just kind of the way we were raised around information. And there's so much stuff going on right now, whether you're looking at the border or the economy or all these things going on with Russiagate and Adam Schiff and James Comey. Man, it's entertaining. I'll tell you that. It's entertaining. You know, it's wild to me because you talk about Walter Cronkite in these old school newscasters. It's almost like back then you got the actual news for what it was. And sometimes now, you know, depending on what station you listen to, there's a different spin on it. But back in the day, I could be ignorant.

2:36But when I was a kid, I felt like the news was the news was the news was the news, man. Yeah. I mean, and that's the way it is, you know, and that's the way it is. Walter Cronkite, right? And so here's the thing. Walter Cronkite was the most trusted man in America. You couldn't say that about anybody on TV today, I don't think. I don't think anybody would vote anybody that's on the major networks anywhere above 10%. And here's the thing about Walter Cronkite or Mike Wallace over at 60 Minutes, morely safe from those guys. They were all Democrats, every one of them. But you didn't know it. You didn't have to know it because Walter Cronkite would just get on there, put on his glasses, and he wasn't the well-coifed looking.

3:12He's just an average looking dude. But he gave you the news and he was honest and they were compelling. And so somebody like Mike Wallace, University of Michigan guy, would go out and he would just he just bust the balls of whoever. If he thought you were lying, he just crush you. He would just run. It didn't matter if you're a Democrat, Republican, independent. Didn't matter. He would just smash you for being dishonest or being shady or whatever it was. We need more of that. We just need truth tellers. Just get out there and tell me the damn truth. Don't I mean, I'm an opinion guy, but I also try.

3:43I try really hard to tell the people the truth. And this is why I have my opinion because it's based on these facts. Right. Yeah. And this is the foundation for it. And that's what we do. Yeah, it's a good point. Right. Because I enjoy truth tellers. Right. And what we try to do on our show, too, is I, hey, everybody, you can come tell your story. You can give me your opinion. I'm cool with it. You know, all I'm looking for is good conversation. I want neutral platform. no one needs to know where i stand no one needs to know where somebody else stands and you surely don't need to cast stones at somebody because they sit on either side of the aisle and that's what we have going on in america it is you know i thought covid was the height of it holy shit man it's getting worse it is worse that was just the that was the baseline well here's the concern i had a guy on today on the program this morning um from the uk my god he says they're getting arrested every day, 12, 15, 20 people a day for what they post on Facebook or X or wherever, because what they said, not that it did offend somebody, that it might offend somebody.

4:50I'm like, holy shit, how is that even possible? Because we sit here in America and we have this illusion, and it's wrong. We have this illusion that the whole world, the Western world, UK, France, Germany, whatever, have freedom of speech. They don't. They don't. They're being arrested for what they put on social media, not because it did offend somebody or threaten somebody, but they might be offended by something they said like hey i'm a christian and i don't want you know these folks taking over my block to do the the chat at five in the morning oh well that's offensive to these muslims over here to jail you go they'll pound on your door at three in the morning and whisk you out to jail so i asked the guy i said is that real he goes oh it's real happens every single day and i'm like holy just frightening to me because because to me same thing what you just said sean is exactly right i believe in conversation i had a young man here on the program.

5:37He's got a couple million followers. He's a far left guy. He's a Gen Z guy, and he hates Donald Trump. And that's fine. I said, come on the program. We'll talk about it because I'll take all comers, all comers. Anybody wants to talk about a conversation. And at the end, he puts it up on YouTube and he gets a few hundred thousand views of the post interview that I did live. And he says, I was surprised. He invited me back. We had a conversation we found, you know, and basically found common ground because if you actually talk to people and don't polarize yourself and don't say, I don't want to hear what you have to say and plug your ears and do that nonsense, you might learn something.

6:15If you listen once in a while, you might learn something. I think the best conversations and there can be peace, you know, not complete peace in the world, but, but just peace inside everybody. If you just listen a little bit. Yeah. You know, God gave me two ears and one mouth. Somebody told me a long time ago. So listen twice as much as you talk. And then here I am talking for a living and so are you. But still, the point applies. We need to listen to each other more. This whole idea that, well, I voted for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump. I hate you. I don't like you. Trump can do nothing right.

6:48Trump does everything right. Come on. It can't be that way. You know, he does. Look, you might agree with some things. Don't agree with other things. That's true of any politician. I don't agree with anybody 100 % of the time. I'm not even sure I agree with myself 100 % of the time. sometimes I don't know if I agree with myself, right? It's one of those things like, it's like, look guys, you, you can love them, hate them somewhere in the middle is the truth, but no one's searching for that middle, that, that common ground. Everybody wants to be so polarized. And you mentioned something earlier that struck up a thought of some of the things that you've been covering lately.

7:21There's a lot of scary things going on in this world. You know, most recently, you know, beginning of June, um, there was some people arrested from China for bringing in this potential bioweapon to the United States of America that could wipe out up to maybe half of our crops. This is some serious implications. And we're going to take a quick break to hear from our Powered by Sponsor. We're proud to announce a partnership between White Sands Treatment Centers and the Determined Society. With multiple locations across Florida, White Sands provides luxury, top-rated addiction treatment from medical detox and inpatient care to outpatient support and long-term aftercare.

8:01Their resort-style campuses, expert clinicians, and holistic programs create real, lasting recovery. Together, we're committed to bringing hope, resources, and healing to those who need it most. White Sands Treatment Centers. This is crazy stuff. So University of Michigan has had two major events in the last six months, and I want to touch on both of them. The first one happened, five Chinese students that were attending University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, not too far from where I'm sitting here, were caught up in Camp Grayling. And for anybody that doesn't know what Camp Grayling is, it is the biggest military training camp in America.

8:37I mean, when I grew up in southern Michigan here, you would see the convoy streaming north every summer. They'd come in from Georgia and Florida and Texas, wherever. They all come up here to do training and so on and so forth. So here a few months ago, the Taiwanese army was here doing training with American military personnel. So five students at the University of Michigan get arrested up there. They're up there taking pictures and all this. And they said, well, we're journalists. They weren't journalists. They were spies. Very simple. They were spies. And they're up there taking pictures of Taiwan and an American military operations and exercise and so forth.

9:13So that's pretty chilling right there. That's scary shit, right? Right there. That's enough. Like that right there is enough to scare the shit out of me, dude. And it should. And so then you fast forward to what you just mentioned here just a few weeks ago. not once, not twice, but three different occasions, apparently, these Chinese students returning from China to Ann Arbor, to the University of Michigan, caught with bioweapons, one of them being a fungus. Now, when you talk about agriculture in America, corn, beans, rice, whatever you're talking about, fungicide is out there. These funguses are already out there.

9:45But what happens and what they were concerned about, and what we should be very concerned about, and Brooke Rawlings, the ag secretary, and all the rest, should be very concerned about, they take a fungus from Michigan. They return to China. They work on it there. They tinker with it, if you will. Then they bring it back and maybe it becomes fungicide resistant. And I talked to farmers. I think you saw part of this piece that we did with John Solomon. The farmer's concern is this. If our fungicide has been neutralized to some extent, you could lose half your corn crop, half your bean crop, half your rice, half your sorghum, Half all of your grain crops get halved.

10:25And he said, we can survive that for a bit. You know who would pay the price, though? First, it wouldn't be America. It'd be sub-Saharan Africa. Those countries rely on the food that we send them, despite all the people. America's a bad place. America is not a bad place. It's a wonderful place. We feed the world. We feed Namibia and South Africa and Botswana and all those places, right? And if we got hit, we would keep the grain to ourselves. Those places would suffer first. But one of the farmers, I wanted to talk to these farmers out in the field, and they said, look, if you can knock down the American grain supply by half or more, and it went on for a couple years, you would have famine in America.

11:06And I go back to Zimbabwe, mid-1980s, right? The big change and apartheid went away. That's not the point. Up to that point, that country fed most of sub-Saharan Africa. They had a bunch of political upheaval and so on and so forth. Suddenly they had a famine of 5 million people in the late 80s, early 90s. People died. Can you imagine if the cornfields of Iowa and Illinois and Nebraska and Michigan and Ohio were destroyed? Good God. But if you want to control, this is the oldest play in the political book. You want to take over a group of people? Take their food away. Control the food supply. Control the people.

11:47Right? I mean, that's it. so here's where i come to on this the chinese communist party which by the way only represents about 10 of the people in china you would think it was the whole thing no it's only about 10 60 to 100 million people roughly the rest of the place not part of not party members but if they could control the food supply here that would be a way to get into america we know they have 400 500 000 acres of land here really not real big but enough where they could come in they wouldn't have to go to Bob Jones' farm down the street and plant this fogginess. They could do it in their own farms.

12:20And then, of course, the air currents would take it downwind and it would spread. But here's so many problems with China that I have. So you look at the infiltration to the universities, because it's not just the University of Michigan, it's Michigan State, it's the University of Texas, it's Florida State, it's Arkansas, it's all of them, Texas A &M. Every state has a land-grant institution that focuses on agriculture and every one of those sons of bitches needs the money because they're all they've all become addicted to the money and the chinese pay top dollar to bring uh non-residents here to go to school to steal our ideas to take them back that's not paranoid that's what's happening china has no respect for intellectual property they have no respect for rules and regulations which is why we keep having these things the kids up there taking pictures of the taiwanese military exercises of bringing in these funguses, or the bio labs that were unlicensed and unregulated that made the news a year ago in California.

13:16I mean, it's just one thing. And that's just what you hear about, Sean. What about the things you don't hear about, right? But these universities are so addicted to that money. I mean, a lot of these universities are kind of in trouble because enrollments dropped. So that Chinese money, oh, we'll kind of look the other way. Don't look the other way, please. Pay attention because this is really important stuff. And I know we have a lot to worry about these days, but this infiltration into agriculture is of great concern. We had Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on. We had Brooke Rollins on. John Solomon speaks for himself at Just the News.

13:52Does incredible investigative work, and I worked with him on this to put it all together. We did great work together, and there's a lot to be concerned with because of the infiltration of these people who have, let's be honest, political motives. There's a saying in China in Mandarin that I don't speak Mandarin. I'm sorry to disappoint you. But there is a... I bet you do, though. I bet you at least can say one thing. You're about to. I can't. My wife would be upset if I actually said that. Ivy, be upset. Hi, Ivy. But they have this saying, everything under heaven, right? So we hear about how they think that Taiwan is a rogue province.

14:25Pretty common knowledge, right? People know that. What they don't realize is that they think the United States is a rogue province, and so is Canada, and so is Argentina, and so is Malta, and so is every country under the sun. They think it's all China. It's just a matter of time. And, you know, unless we get our act together, maybe they're not wrong. And that is frightening. What's frightening is this is happening under our noses. It's happening in our university system. It's happening in America where there's spies coming over and everybody listening right now looks at, you know, Russia and Ukraine and go, wow, man, thank God we live here because we're safe.

15:01Are we? You don't know what's going on on the back on the back end. underneath the carpet, even something that was highly publicized as this fungus that they're bringing in. I don't have a lot of people in my circle talking about it. And quite honestly, until I came in contact with you, I was like, wait a second, I heard about this, but it's almost like, are they silencing this thing? And what is the government actually doing about this? Well, you wonder, look, I'm not going to, I'm not to pick on any particular group, But you look, there's several politicians that have really close ties to China, both current and former.

15:41Look, they're getting paid, too. There's money here, a lot of money. And again, I'm going back to the university system and the Confucius Institutes, which are all over this country. That's nothing more than a pipeline to bring in Chinese doctrine. However you want to look at that, maybe you think it's good, maybe you think it's bad. I think it's probably more bad than good because they're delivering Chinese doctrine. I mean, look at the guy running for mayor in New York City. He's an outright communist. He is. He would fit right in with the Chinese doctrine. Not my flavor. I like America. I like free enterprise.

16:13I like free people, right? I do. And so you've got this pipeline in. We should try to figure out how to get it fixed. But my concern is, whether it's in the university systems, like University of Michigan or wherever you might be there, whatever university closest to your house, they look the other way because if they show up with 10 million, 15 million, 20 million, a hundred million dollars, oh, we're going to invest in this new facility, in this new lab you're building. By gosh, we're partners. You're never really partners with these folks. It's always transactional to them. What can they get out of it?

16:46Where do they come out ahead on this deal? And from where I stand, they come out ahead on a lot of different places. And you're right it's not in the headlines and i don't know that it's intentional but there's you know any given day there's this this bomb went off this bombshell happened you know this happened whatever it is and you take that and couple it with one other thing this thing you got one of these oh oh yeah yeah yeah right how much time do you spend because here's what we also have we have an entertainment society oh you know i'd be worried about that chinese thing but you know the big games on at eight o 'clock tonight i'm gonna watch the football and then i'm oh wait i'm gonna get three and a half points on that game so i'm gonna focus oh there's a new movie oh i'm gonna binge watch this new show i hear it's really good and it probably is whatever i mean shows like landman love it i can sit there you know i'd watch it i think it's great but people live in a distracted society where they're they're not paying first of all they don't pay attention to their kids enough they don't pay attention to their spouses enough of a lot of people not true of everybody um they're distracted by the football game the new video uh the tick tock which by the way is another chinese thing and all of this and they're not we're not paying attention son we're we're distracted all the damn time and trust me my add has had me distracted since i was three years old but it's worse for a lot of folks i mean add is kind of my secret weapon because i can do it differently it's my superpower man exactly because i i share that with you right and and there's times where my ADHD is so bad, but I can hyper-focus on certain things, like building this business.

18:20I can hyper-focus on it. I can hyper-focus in an interview. And it never used to be that way. I remember when I first started, I would have to like, oh my gosh, I forgot what they just said. Right. But I can, I can always turn myself back. I only laugh because I can, I can totally identify with that. Man, I'd be in college. I told Ivy this a number of times. I'd be in college and I'd have a textbook and i'd sit there and i'd read the book or whatever you know and i'd go man i know i just i just said i know i just read that page and i don't know what it is you know what i'll read it again i'll read it again and i get done and go now i know i've read it twice and i have no it because my brain's a thousand other places and i'm you know and that's long before we had cell phones and nonsense right the complicating factor now is you've got you know laptops and cell phones and your car talks to you and everybody's talking messaging all the time right you know it's it's interesting because you talk about a distracted society it's like i'm not i'm not going to sit here and claim that you know you know steve jobs is uh his his idea was to distract society i'm not going to say that zuckerberg when he started facebook and then eventually bought instagram and made it a part of meta was the common goal just to distract society so other people can come and infiltrate america but can it not be a product of that can can we make can we make the argument that like we're so freaking distracted not even paying attention to our own kids and our and our spouses to where we're buried in the phone you know searching like you said the tiktok or the instagram or the facebook or the threads or the x worrying about all these other things then what is actually going on that could potentially freaking kill generations well i mean think about this our for example our electrical grid is in terrible shape Nobody ever talks about it.

20:09It would take one good smoking of a couple of stations. Boom, we'd be real problems there. You look at our municipal water supplies, and I'm not trying to give anybody ideas, vulnerable because most of them are wide open. I'm not giving you a primer on this. I'm just saying, municipal water supply, you want to drop 10 ,000 fentanyl pills in a municipal water supply? What does that do? Or 100 ,000? Because this stuff's still coming in by the truckload, not like it did. We're slowing it down, but it's still here. We're vulnerable. I mean, what happens if one of these crazy madmen, like the guy that went into Manhattan here, into the NFL building here a couple of weeks ago, and opens the wrong building, wins the wrong office.

20:51Yeah, but what if he shows up at a football game at a major university, right? And even though, yeah, you can't get into the facility itself, but all the way around tailgaters and all this stuff. Rinse takes your laundry and hand delivers it to your door, expertly cleaned and folded. So you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a whole new version of you. Like tea time you. Mmm. Or this tea time you. Or even this tea time you. So did you hear about Dave? Or even tea time, tea time, tea time you. Mmm. So update on Dave. It's up to you. We'll take the laundry.

21:31Rinse. It's time to be great. I mean, I'm sorry, Sean. Would you be surprised if that happened on the first Saturday of college football? No. Nobody would be surprised. Not at this point. That's the sad damn thing. You know, it's the thing. It's like, you know, there's a difference, right? Being surprised versus being really upset about it. I would be very upset and sad that that happened, obviously. And so would you. Absolutely. To say that I'm like, to say like, I can't believe that just freaking happened. Like, come on, man. Come on. There's been stuff like this going on, you know, constantly.

22:06It just happened not too far from the guy. It was just a couple of weeks ago. Just not too far from me. Traverse City, Michigan. People are at Walmart. Some guy starts randomly stabbing people at the Walmart. A 94-year-old woman gets stabbed. Is that what was going on? Yeah. At the Walmart, the guy, thank God he only had a three and a half inch knife. He was a mental patient because we've destroyed our mental health in this country. That's a whole different conversation. But we have no place to put people when we should. So this guy's roaming the streets and he starts randomly stabbing people.

22:36And thankfully, he just had a folding pocket knife and not, you know, something more effective. Thank God, because those people would have died. They all lived. Unbelievable. All 11 of them survived, including a 94 year old woman who. Jesus. I'm just going to Walmart to buy some shit. Would you leave me alone? i mean honestly i i don't need that kind of pressure who does i i i guess stick to tarjay you know what i mean like hell man i don't know what to say it's crazy but yeah but hey here's what's nuts i was in when you said traverse michigan i was in traverse like uh maybe gosh what was it uh july so it's what what traverse city you said you had some friends in michigan Yeah.

23:17Yeah. Well, I was there for an event. Yeah. Where Thomas, I was up there. We were hanging out at an event he did for Glover U, a big real estate conference. He was a speaker there. So we were hanging out. But that is the most I mean, the sleeping the sleepy bear dunes are there like Michigan, all these beautiful sites. When you say Traverse, Michigan, I'm like, wait, what happened? There's a reason that Kid Rock's saying about Northern Michigan. There is no better place on the planet from today through the middle of October. There's no better place on the planet. You've got Lake Michigan. You've got the big lakes.

23:51You've got nice little towns, great little bars and restaurants and stuff all over the place. You've got the Sleeping Bear Dunes. You've got a little Traverse Bay. You've got Traverse City, Michigan. You've got Petoskey and Charlevoix and Bay Harbor and all these wonderful places. you know and there's a reason that you know kid rock is up there nice house he has by the way um yeah it's a cool place he's on lake charleboa 18 000 acre lake that leads into lake michigan it's just a wonderful place and so this is not where you expect some guy to start whipping out a dagger and stabbing you know look they're at walmart for god's sake i mean they're just trying to get by mind their own business we don't and these totally random crimes right random and then I see this on that same note these poor people that got their heads kicked in in Cincinnati good lord what they're leaving a jazz festival and they've had a couple of drinks they get mouthing they get beaten into you know almost you know almost fatal beatings why are we doing this people well why is this happening I mean you got to ask yourself why are we doing this well I think you know to your point uh Steve it goes back to the mental health right the mental health capacity um or the situation i'm sorry the the situation we have and i think a lot of it is driven i don't want to blame it on social media but i think it makes things worse for some people that don't have the coping mechanisms um some people that are potentially overly medicated is it true and i don't know i mean i know you and i are both men of opinions right and so i don't want the fact checkers and the trolls to come out here and say that we're two idiots and you know so if you anyway yeah they will fine fucking bring it whatever we're we're teflon we have we have thick skin um is you know for these different types i mean we're talking you know like school shootings and these mass shootings most of them are are rumored to be caucasian that have severe mental issues that are overly medicated a lot of truth to that i don't know if it's true but here's something here's here's one of the one of the common denominators that i've found looking at school shooters and look when i was in high school i graduated in the 80s mid 80s we used to take guns to school but we go out after school and go deer hunting or duck hunting or whatever you know we'd hunt a little bit after school the difference between 1980 and 1985 and today is we didn't walk down the hall pulling the trigger and i don't know i don't honestly know what changed between there and Columbine, right?

26:19Because Columbine changed everything. But I think you're right on the money about social media. I don't know if it caused it, but I think it amplifies mental illness oftentimes because people get on there, say the craziest stuff, and then the next guy gets angry and he wants to get even and they're amped up all the time and their stress levels or their dopamine's out of whack all the time. Maybe. You wonder. That's why I wear the magic ring, by the way, so I can keep track of my stress level so my new thing yeah exactly oh you got the ring get the magic ring yeah okay that's cool that's the magic ring is that your magic ring yeah anyhow it keeps my stress but i think that there's a there's a mental health issue in america um it goes back to the 1950s because that's when we started dismantling uh the mental hospitals in america part of it was because they didn't want to label people, right?

27:10They didn't want to label people. And the ACLU was part of the impetus. And you can go back and check this. They didn't want to, you know, give people this stigma. Oh, you know, they got this problem. Bob's weird. Bob's been to the mental hospital. So they started taking that away. Well, what do we got now? You have mental people walking the streets or living in homeless encampments from Washington, D.C. to San Francisco and every point in between because we don't have a solution at the moment. And I don't know that we're going to, but there's solutions. Oh, take more drugs. I don't think that's working.

27:43Oh, I know what I was going to say. Back to the school shooters. I just wanted to make this point. Common denominator. Most of these are white males, not all of them, but a good, a disproportionate number with no father figure, with no father figure in the house. If you go look at these kids that go through and kill their classmates, oftentimes they either have a weak or non-existent father figure. So they come from homes that don't have a dad. We need more dads in America. That's a fact. We need more real dads acting like dads, you know, being what dads need to be. Mom and dad have different roles in the household.

28:22And generally speaking, kids benefit greatly from having both. If you don't have dads in the house, those schools should, oh, And they also antidepressants, no dad, bad result. Yeah. I mean, wow. That's true. I mean, you know, I'm just I'm thinking of all the people right now that are that are so mad at that. So mad at the truth. Dads are freaking important. Mad at me right now? I don't give a fuck. Look, we need more fathers in America. I don't give a fuck. It's the fact. We need more dads in America acting like they fucking have a pair and being men. Be real men. All right. Stand up. Have a parent.