Blaire White: Cultural Perspective on Overcoming Obstacles & Social Media Impact

31:42It's like the only way people knew me is if I performed well, it was a performative thing for me. So, uh, I mean, I loved it. Don't get me wrong, but standing there, I had no clue who I was like zero. It was terrifying. So my twenties, the rest of my twenties, I spent drinking way too much, not caring if someone had a boyfriend or whatever, putting my friends in bad situations i was very toxic to be around and i didn't mean to be but there was a void inside me i was so hurt yeah you were lost gone like gone i look back at that guy and i go oof man i wish i could talk to you right now you know and i have one friend left from that era one oh one survived one just got resuscitated like we just like literally like we literally just came back in contact after what 15 years he deemed me he was in my request box I'm like my heart was like no way wow it's my guy is my guy Mike from Chico thank you there's my Chico buddy well he grew up in the same town as me but you know we he went to Chico but that's the guy and um you know we ended up you know hopping on a phone phone call with each other it within two minutes he was crying i was crying and it was like nothing ever happened and that's a true friend though you know it's just a true friendship is a timeless thing i have a few people like that where it doesn't matter how long we don't talk there's just so much connection that it goes right back to the way it was yeah but yeah do my 20s again no i wouldn't either and i just exited them so Because you're like, what, 33?

33:3032. You're 32. Yeah. That's my favorite number. Is it really? Yeah, so that was my baseball number for so many years. Nice. From high school. Oh, nice. I think this is my favorite age. Hey, that was my favorite age, too, because it's my favorite number, right? It's a great age. It's a cool number. Yeah. Yeah. When's your birthday? September 14th. Oh, really? Virgo. You're Virgo. My wife's a Virgo. She's September 1. Oh, okay. Yeah, Virgos are the best. I actually don't even know much about astrology. I love it. I prefer Virgos over other people. Very like, um, very cerebral, very like particular about the way they like things.

34:07And you're saying that like, it's a good thing. It is for the person. It is for the freaking Virgo. Yeah. Um, but no, it's funny because my mom's a Virgo. My daughter, Alina's a Virgo. Oh, all the women. My wife is a Virgo. My youngest is a, is a, um, I think a Capricorn. It's she's, she's a January beginning of January. So yeah, it's Capricorn. Um, and my son and I are Scorpios, but the thing about Virgos and Scorpios, they get along really well. Yes. They get along very well, but, but they, but they can definitely bump those, bump those heads. They fight really well too. Oh yeah. My mom's a Scorpio and we fight really well.

34:50What's her birthday? Um, Halloween. It's Bobby. It's my son's birthday. Really? Yes. Wow. All these synchronicities. I know. And I'm the 28th. So I'm three days before my son. Okay. I remember before he got here, it was like, oh my God, hopefully he doesn't come on your birthday. Then you have to share a birthday. I'm like, hopefully he does come on my birthday so I can share a birthday with my little dude. How cool would that have been? That would have been cool. Halloween's cool too, though. I love Halloween. Yeah. We were sitting there the other night and my wife started talking about Halloween this year.

35:21Hey girls, what do you want to be for Halloween? I'm thinking, that's like six months away, babe. Like, what are we doing here? But she's a planner because she's a Virgo. yeah yeah and so you know the girls are starting to shout certain things out and you know my son goes I want to be something really scary again because last year I think he was Michael Myers or something like that or Jace I don't know what he was I can't remember but um you know he wants to do something scary and I just I've been sitting there and the girls go to bed and they my wife starts talking about Halloween again and I just looked at him and I go dude you have no idea how lucky you are he's like what do you mean i'm like college is gonna be fucking awesome he's like oh yeah he's gonna have a great weekend birthday halloween that's that's sick he's like what do you mean i'm like well there's gonna be a bunch of nurses running around there's gonna be a bunch of bunch of devils right but and my wife just threw a pillow at me or something she's like stop it but i mean you know it's uh i don't we're in the weeds but you know i think that you know when we're talking about the twenties and the toxicity that I just, that was just oozing out of me, you know, it, it hurts when I look back at it, you know, because I impacted so many people's relationships and, and I broke trust and, um, you know, only one friendship has, has come back, you know?

36:42And so it's, it's just one of those things where now I carry myself differently. so yeah you know even to a point where you know my buddy said hey so and so I'm I'm out with him right now and it was my best friend he said nothing but love I said hey tell him I love him and then I sent him a text message like three days later no response I said it's okay right because he doesn't know me now right he's still it's still the old you in his head yeah I was dude if you i mean like that was like 2006 2007 right it's like almost 20 years ago yeah yeah it's like it's hard for me too because like not only do people not know who i am now but also like i wasn't a public figure back then so that's a weird change for people that used to be in my life and then also like i you know didn't look like this surgery trans all that so it's sometimes hard to connect with most people from like my childhood and stuff.

37:45Do you find it's hard for people from your childhoods to relate to you? Not because of the trans, but because of the fact that you're a public figure. Yes. Yeah. They, they really don't get it. And I think that, um, a lot of people project an ego that isn't there or a, um, like a hoity toitiness that like, I truly don't have because public figure or fame to them reads as like, oh, they're better than me or something, which I don't feel that way at all. I don't feel like I'm above anybody. So I don't get that vibe from you at all. Yeah, no. Life is just life. I think all people are equal. Yeah.

38:22But, you know, that's I'm also from the tiniest town where there's no such thing as like getting attention outside of that tiny town. So I think it's a hard thing for them to get. Yeah, it is. But, you know, it's funny because I would say about two years ago, I mean, maybe three years ago, the show was a lot smaller. My best friend said, like, hey, dude, it's hard for people to relate to you now. Yeah. It's like, dude, I'm just talking on a microphone and it's not even that big of a deal yet. Right. Yet. You know, so now it's like. Oh, I lost most of my friends when I started. And in fact, I was just telling this story earlier today.

38:58All of my friends at the time, I had like a bunch of roommates that were also my friends. and I was like two videos into starting YouTube and I found out they were all doing like hate watch parties at our mutual friends house like putting it on the TV like your roommates yeah and they were like hate watching me were they your actual friends or they just roommates well now I know they weren't yeah no shit but back then they were called yeah they had the title friend we they were roommates that were friends first and we live together um so you know it was it was clearly just jealousy and again a projection of their own insecurities so but I but I've rebuilt now I have you know friends all over the world I get to connect with people all over the planet so well you got me right you got me I I consider you a friend so I hear you and thank you and I have met so many different people in this industry yeah that become close I become closer with them then I then I am with people that live in my town that I know you know and it's it's an interesting thing and I think unless you're in it you can't understand it yeah it just becomes a different um a different way of life you know it's and it's weird because you also um like you were saying with getting heat and stuff like that all of that lives forever on the internet and so you wonder how much people from your past maybe like read that too and then internalize that so it's easier to be friends with people who are also public figures because they understand that it doesn't matter what's written about you on the internet.

40:30That's a great point. You jog something in my mind of, the other reason I feel it's easier to be friends with other public figures is because they understand what you're going through and how hard it is. Yeah. And how much, you know, people may judge you, but nobody's judging you as much as you're judging yourself. 100%. You know, it's an exhausting thing. you know because you know as an because i consider what i do i'm an artist this is my art yeah you know my conversation is an art form 100 and it's specifically mine nobody else does it like me just like nobody else does it like you you know it's limited edition stuff but you know when when there's other people like the people that you know from your past like hey you just just slow down it's not it's not that big of a deal but what what they don't understand is this is everything You know, this is something that we put our heart and soul in.

41:26And when you put your art out and you feel it's not being received, it's personal. Yeah. And I don't have a plan B. I'm doing this forever. I burned, I burned the bridge a long time ago. Yeah. I mean, I have other aspirations as well that I want to add on to what I'm doing, but I, I pretty much have made peace with the fact that I'm always going to be, you know, a public figure. It's like a lifelong thing. It's not a flavor of the decade or week or whatever. it's not like hey I want to do this because COVID hit and everybody was popping into it right I didn't join an MLM for a while thank god someone did try to get me to join an MLM a long time ago you know that's how I started my show I went into MLM really I did yeah I was always trying to make extra money yeah and I never did well with them because I didn't believe in it right I believe in the model like cool people can go do that I didn't I didn't possess the traits to do it.

42:21Right. I didn't like it. But in this last one, it was it was Melaleuca. Actually, it was a that one. It's like a direct to consumer. It's not really an MLM. You share the link and if they buy from the store, you get commissions. It was supposed to be all non-toxic stuff. But in order to do that and do well, they're like, you have to be a public. You have to have a personal brand. I'm like, what the fuck is that? I didn't know. I was a medical salesperson. I had no idea. I was in the OR watching, you know, robotic surgeries. And so the whole point is like, I stumbled into this. Like I didn't mean to find this, but I did.

43:00And once I found that this was my purpose, this is my calling, I did whatever I could to put myself and my family in the position. So when I can go bye-bye corporate and focus full-time on this, I did it. It was, I think it was, it was January, it was January of 2024 where I was finally done with corporate and it was the best decision. Corporate America made me, right? I feel like I did a lot there that helped me talking to different types of people. And, you know, one day it could be a dentist, one day it could be, you know, construction worker because I had multiple sales careers. But, you know, for me is like, to your point, like there's no turning back.

43:42Like, there's only building on from this. Yeah, and it's so freeing to be your own boss, even though it's also, in my opinion, 10 times more stressful. Although I only had one real job before this. What did you do before this? I was working in a clothing store. A clothing store? It was my first, yeah. I was there for, I think, like six months, and I hated it. Like, I would straight up refuse to even do anything. My customers would come in and be like, can you help me get this clothing off the rack? And I'd be like, no, I don't really want to. You're like, no, that's not what I do. Yeah, but for whatever reason my boss like loved me so I never got in trouble But then you know the second I could do YouTube and was making money from it.

44:21I was like I'm gone amazing amazing You mentioned you want to do other things to add on to what you're doing now What are some of those things that you want to do? Well, I want to run for office eventually. Okay, cool. Yeah, so that's more of a Long-term, okay. Yeah, I want to run for a Congress in California. Oh, yes not immediately but you know when the time is right so I want to not just like talk about politics I want to like make real change on paper what kind of changes would you make in California oh my gosh well honing in on just right honing in on just the trans part um it's a sanctuary state quote-unquote for trans kids which means if even one parent wants the kid to transition they do it still so that needs to be fixed because that's child abuse um and then i'm really passionate about the homeless issue in california like it's disgusting that we have all this money especially in california one of the biggest economies in the world not just america and there's a million people dying on the street and it's really sad they get discarded yeah and those are human beings with hearts and minds and souls as well so that and you know whatever is the issues of the time when I actually run, you know.

45:31What's the timeline for, do you think? I feel like I don't want to say because I don't want to make any false promises, but it's definitely on the agenda. That's awesome. You know, I think it's amazing to put that out there, you know, just to say this is what I want to do, or you're going to do it. You know, it's just one of those things where there are certain people where you know when they say, this is what I want to do, and you can be like, all right, you might could do it. I already know it's like just kind of my destiny. Yeah. When you tell me, I'm like, okay, yeah, done deal. Like, yeah, that's a no brainer.

46:08You know, and I think it's important in California because there's, that's the most beautiful state in the union. Like I miss California. I know. I don't necessarily care for how it's run, but I miss my home. And when I go back there and I plant my foot off that plane and I, you know, go out there to get the rental car, I can just feel it. I can feel it. You know, even if I'm not in the Bay and we went to, we went to, we went to, we went to LA last year last summer and we did Jay Leno you know at Jay Leno's garage that was freaking cool but the moment I got off the plane and I just like man it's a different energy it just yeah it really is I'm home I'm here I can't do the humidity out here isn't it bad it's beautiful out here too but it's just the air I just can't do it the humidity is absolutely ridiculous especially if you're not used to it you know like earlier today it was like nice and then I went and got ceviche the little um you know ceviche right there at suviche the restaurant and everything was fine i walked out afterwards and i walked down the street to get a coffee and i'm like sweating yeah it's like what happened in 45 minutes to where i can't even feels like a freaking sauna you know what's so crazy is i almost got hit in the head by an iguana out here okay let's talk about that now you may have seen the buzz but let me give you the inside scoop babe ruth berry bonds Ken Griffey Jr., Mark McGuire, all the greats.

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48:51Oh my God. Did it hit you? Almost. It grazed me. That's a freaky thing. Yeah. Interesting. Florida be Florida. You know, that's why I have that show Florida, man. The craziest things happen here. It really, yeah. It's unexpected all the time. You have alligators that are in pools and, you know, all that kind of crazy stuff. Yeah. But Florida is beautiful in its own right. I don't hate that I live here. I do hate it from June to May. I don't like hurricanes. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Okay. You know what it is? It's the anxiety of watching it on the TV for five days. You don't know where it's going. Do you have anxiety in general, you think, too?

49:31Oh, me? Of course. Yeah, of course I do. I have massive anxiety. Really? Yeah, it's gotten better. The more I watch my food, the more I work out, it does get better. So I don't worry about things that I used to worry about, but sometimes I do have dark thoughts about bad things happening to my family. Yeah, yeah. Anxiety is rough. I have pretty bad anxiety too. These days it's a little better because, again, I kind of learned like food really matters. And people don't really make that connection. But the gut-brain connection is like really real. Took the words right out of my mouth. And moving, you know what I mean?

50:08And I used to like just wake up and drink like straight coffee in the morning with no food. And then I'd have like a panic attack. And then I learned like you're not supposed to do it like that. Oh, you're not? No, you're supposed to have food. I have a protein shake. Yeah, that counts. That counts. And then I had a panic attack for the first time, like a real one a couple years ago after never having one. And I always thought it was something, I guess I believed people that it was scary and serious, but until you really have one, you don't know how real it is. You think you're having a heart attack.

50:37It convinces you you're dying. Yeah. It really does. So I've never had a full-on panic attack, but I have had moments where I just, I feel like there's an elephant on my chest, and I get really quiet, and my wife goes, I go, I'm going through it right now. Like, I just need a minute. Like, I don't know what's going on with me. I'm super anxious right now. I'm just out of nowhere. Yeah. You know, what makes you, what are the things that make you anxious the most? Hmm. I think, like, not living up to what I know that I can. So, like, I've, which is silly, and, you know, anxiety is irrational, and so that's how you know it's, like, not real.

51:17but like because i've accomplished more in my life than i've ever ever would have thought so it's interesting that you still will beat up on yourself even when you know do a lot but i guess just not living up to my own expectations of myself and even sometimes just on the timeline that i want to live up to it so i'm like my own worst enemy a lot of the times yeah i remember um timelines used to really f with me like badly like if i say okay i want to leave corporate america in six months and I didn't hit it, it was like, I suck. Right. Like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm useless. This is never going to happen.

51:53Those things don't bother me anymore because I've kind of let go of the wheel of that. And just the only thing I can control is having great conversations and giving people value. Right. Right. That's the only thing I can do is be the best host I can be. But the things that really mess with me, man, it was just like something happening to my kids. Like I just, I can't, I was getting ready, right? This morning, I couldn't sleep. Like I told you and Joey off camera, like I woke up at two and I just couldn't go back to sleep. And so I started just doing some work stuff and, you know, then I, then I showered, I was getting ready to go get, to go get a workout in.

52:30And, um, like I just started having these bad, like, I don't want to say visions because it wasn't visions but it was just like these bad thoughts that seemed so freaking real about something happening to my kids and it's just it's like it's so it's so debilitating those are the only things that make me anxious and then at lunchtime my wife called me and i didn't pick up because i didn't hear my phone and i called her back two times and sent her like five texts before and i don't have a response yet so i'm like oh shit so before the before we sat down i had to check myself. Like, is this real or is this just fear and fear is an illusion right now?

53:12So just leave it there. But those are the only things that, that freak me out. That's what you have to, I always try to remind myself too, in the moment of like, it's my brain making this seem real and it's doing a really good job at it, but it's, that doesn't mean it's real. I wonder why that is though. I wonder why like for, for we both have different types of anxieties, right and i i just wonder why mine is the way it is well i think that you know it's what you care about the most is your kids so i think part of it and you can feel good about it it's just you being a really good dad yeah because there's a lot of dads out here who don't really care what happens to their kids so that's the first thing but i think it's um it's a biological thing too you know we need a certain amount of anxiety to like make sure we don't swerve near the lane when we're driving to make sure we avoid like threats you know but it's about like reminding yourself when it goes over the line to being irrational yeah yeah like today like it was like this is irrational this is ridiculous for a long time you know earlier in the year you know there's some things happening at schools in public places and so i was every time my wife and my three kids would go to school i would go in the house and i would cry because i was so scared yeah i mean they just it's just, you know, there's real stuff happening in the world, right?

54:31You never know. Granted, my kids are at a prep school and it's very small and you know, but Hey, you never know. And so those things would go through my mind. It would just break me. It's like, so if I could fix anything, you know, I would want for me to fix that. Cause that is a horrible feeling for me. Yeah. Just, I would say just don't go on medication for it. That stuff really like don't go on medication yeah I've never seen people taking anxiety med like I'm very despite the fact that I'm trans and obviously that includes like some drugs I'm very anti big pharma and like I don't agree with like psych meds I've never seen them do more good than harm perhaps in extreme cases I don't want to make an absolute statement but I've seen it harm a lot of people.

55:17Yeah. You know, um, I would say around 2015, I started getting a lot of anxiety with my son when I was driving over bridges. I never had a fear of bridges until my son was born. I was taking him to daycare. That's how you know it's linked to like being a father and yeah. Yeah. And now I'm terrified of bridges. Oh wow. I like, there's a lot of times I, if we're going somewhere and we have to go to St. Pete, we've got to go over the Skyway Bridge in Tampa. I go, Jackie, I need you to talk to me every second. Every second, don't stop talking to me. And I'm like, because I. Oh, wow, you have it really bad.

55:57I have it really bad. Not that kind of sound mean or anything. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't take it that way. Because I've been there. I'm not always there, but I have that level often too. Yeah, but with bridges, I get there, right? And it's funny because, not funny in a sense of like it's humorous, But in 2014, when those things started happening, it started really impacting me. So I did go on citalopram. Oh, I did. And when I went on citalopram, I was like 185 pounds. Fast forward four months, maybe six months. I was way over 230. Oh, wow. It made me so fat. And I don't, and again, once I got off of it, because I didn't change any habits, right?

56:42And it just, after I got off of it, I went back to my normal baseline. And did it even help the anxiety? Oh, yeah. Oh, it did? Oh, it did, yeah. But I mean, I still thought about it, but it wasn't the physical feeling of the anxiety. It's like, man, okay, everything's fine. You're good. Just drive, right? If you're timid, that's when bad things are going to happen, so just go. But yeah, I mean, I also believe in, I'm not really big on the big pharma thing, and I I think there's a lot of drugs out there that are good in certain situations. I can't judge every certain person of why they would take something.

57:19So I don't want to misconstrue that. But for me, it's not, you know, if a kid is doing bad in school and can't keep focus, I'm not for. They put kids on Adderall. You know what I'm for? Getting that kid an executive functioning coach that we've done for our children. Oh, you have. Okay. We're all ADHD. Okay. Okay, yeah, I'm ADHD as well. And I actually take a little bit of Adderall sometimes too just to help with it. So, yeah, I probably. Yeah, so it's like when I took it, I took Adderall. It was when I first started the show. And I needed it really badly. And I wouldn't eat because I wasn't hungry, and then I would just snap.

58:09I was the big Jackie said you're you're not really nice right now I don't know what's going on but I think it's the meds you need to get off of it yeah Adderall can really heighten your emotions and it also gives you terrible anxiety so yeah the trade-off is like okay I can focus more but now I'm focusing on these things I'm super anxious about yeah so I am I got off of that and uh I I feel great, but I, but I believe in certain pharmaceuticals. Like I'm big into hormones, you know, um, TRT. I'm big into peptides. Like, you know, my refrigerator looks like a frigging lab. What peptides I'm on.

58:49Oh my God. How much time do we have? Is it a lot of them? It's a lot of them. So I'm on test. And that does. So that's like more of a, it releases, I guess a human growth hormone, but it's also incinerates the visceral fat. so your fat around your organs um i'm on the testosterone um i'm on um terzapatide which is glp1 okay yeah i do that sometimes too yeah i i love it i love it it really helps um what else um i don't think methylene blue is a is a peptide uh sloop is of peptide. So yeah, I'm on, I'm on some peptides, you know? Um, but, um, you know, I'm good with that kind of stuff, but I'm, you know, I don't, I don't think there's going to be any massive, you know, um, downfall later on or side effects or things that happened to me.

59:42You know, I think, you know, RFK talks about it a lot about how the peptides have gotten a really bad rap and they've been blacklisted and they're starting to come off that list because there are some really good uses for it you know so yeah it's it's dangerous when it gets to drugs and you know even even adderall is like really dangerous yeah yeah i just um yeah but but but you know the whole point of it is is you can't just run and put kids on meds you know you know especially the adderall for the kids it just fries them and then by the time they're adults it's like their baseline is just way off kind of like forever i think the important thing is too like when when i when i I mentioned, you know, you get him an executive coach.

1:00:25Like when my son was in public school, he had low B's and C's. Couldn't stay focused. A lot of ticks too because I think the anxiety was just crushing him. Then he goes to the prep school, which is much harder and much more demanding. We get him an executive functioning coach. He hasn't had anything lower than an 85 in two years. Nice. He's got six A's and two B's. Maybe I need to go to one of those. The ADHD is real. Well, no, you know, they help you prioritize what needs to be done for the week. So they look at every Monday morning at 730, he has his executive functioning coach. That's awesome.

1:01:02I pick him up at 830 and I take him to school. And they go through his whole schedule, what's due. And, you know, his coach helps him break down by day what he needs to do at home, right? And what they do inside there in the hour. And it's changed him tremendously. It's been the most amazing thing to a point where like, thank God we didn't go the other route. Right. And back in the day, they didn't even, there was no understanding of ADHD, not even that long ago. So like the idea of, you know, parents actually seeking out alternative methods for their kids, they weren't even, they were just being told, put them on Adderall.

1:01:41Based on the kind of ADHD you have, that can be like the worst thing for you too. Yeah. Well, two, if you don't take a saliva test and submit your DNA to a lab to see what medications actually will work and what your body will reject, how do you know you're medicating the right way? Right, right. Because that's a thing now. Oh, absolutely. You can take one pharmaceutical and it can make something else worse or it could turn somebody into a zombie. You look at them like this. Or it could make you fat. Yeah. Which is, that's a big problem too. Yeah, it was a big problem for me, no pun intended. No pun intended.

1:02:16Like, it sucked, man. And so I spent the last however many years getting back to this, you know, because it's been a journey. It's like been a here, here, here. And now for the last, since December of 2024, it's been like this. Like, it's consistent now. But I had to fight back, you know, and that's never comfortable because that hurts. That doesn't make me very effective, right? and in our business when we're you know in front of the camera all the time and you know we're public figures and we we have we're thought leaders as well obviously and when we're speaking to people people need to believe us right you know fat sean didn't scream determination right just like like where's your discipline dude where's your determination like your show might talk about it and you might be that way in your business but are you that way as a human i can't even film a video or do anything on camera if I'm even having like a bad week kind of which I probably should be better at like managing that but I just never want to come on camera I just feel like you can tell when someone's going through it a little bit and like I don't ever want to communicate maybe it's like afraid of showing vulnerability or something but I don't I just want to be all there mentally before I try to preach to other people about how to feel about things.

1:03:38I can relate to this because I don't share enough moments of me. Like my, you look at my grid, it's the podcast stuff, as you know, and it's some stuff with my family. Sometimes I don't always put my kids faces on there because people take your content. Yeah, absolutely. That's what these days with AI, that's like a really bad, bad, bad thing going on. Mm hmm. So but, um, you know, when I do share where I'm at emotionally or frustration wise, it's like now I've got 50 fucking psychologists in my comment section, you know, offer me advice. It's like, guys, I'm fine. I'm just having a moment and I'm sharing it because I don't want you to think that I think I am perfect.

1:04:22Right. That's why I don't I don't even really look at comments. Yeah. You don't ever know. I've been lucky enough. I feel like I've, in my career, been around enough people that are way more successful than me, and so I ask them advice. What's the key to longevity? What's the key to staying sane? All the most successful people I've known have said the same thing. Just don't read the comments. Interesting. Yeah. Joe Rogan told me that. Roseanne Barr told me that. A few other people. I've just kind of taken it. It's benefited me a lot because you also don't want to be necessarily at the whim of what everyone wants you to create at least with what i do because then you there's audience capture right then there's like i'm kind of just going through the motions to please people and that's uh you don't really grow like that because then you're not really expanding or sometimes you need to do something that even segments of your audience are like what is this and if you're if you have a decent amount of intuition and you're on the money then even if they're not there they'll come around to it yeah i think i think when we're when you're creating content though it's for you right it's like yes these are my beliefs you know the one thing that i do a poor job of i'm still very engaged in my platform on on instagram because i'm not to the point where i really want to be yet so i'm still i'm responding to comments i'm looking at them and it's good to be like that too you don't want to ignore the audience or whatever no no i don't but you know like on instagram like I don't get anything bad said, you know?

1:05:52And so, you know, I'll, I'll engage, but also there's going to come a time where I probably shouldn't look at the comments and I probably shouldn't use my time doing that because you never know what you're going to read. You know, and I think it's all about, like you said, the key to longevity is sometimes knowing yourself well enough to know what your triggers are and knowing what can kind of take you off the rails and then don't go there. Right. Like stay away from it. Right. And I got a bulldoze. You just got to go where you're going. And if people latch on, they latch on. And a lot of other people will catch up to you later.

1:06:25Yeah, I mean, that's true. You know, you had mentioned something earlier about like we were talking about comments and it made me think about, you know, and I know you've talked about it, but I was really interested to understand what happened after the penthouse interview because you were getting threats. And did you call the FBI? Is that accurate? Oh my gosh. Yeah. Going all the way back. I think it was like before the penthouse interview. I think I talked about it in the penthouse interview if I remember correctly. Yeah. There was a period in 2017 where I had made a video criticizing black lives matter.

1:06:59And I just took a lot of heat all at once. And it ended up with like people taking pictures, holding guns, wanting to come get me. And actually the FBI contacted me to let me know what was going on. And I think they were, um, they asked me a few questions. I can't even remember. So it was definitely more serious than like a lot of other moments. So I guess there was some, um, credibility to it, but that's another thing that comes with the territory, especially about politics. How'd that feel? Um, I think I was so green and so new to like everything that actually was kind of fun. I was kind of like, screw it.

1:07:35I matter. Cool. This is neat. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, does this mean I'm famous now? People want to kill me? Cool. Kind of. Right. I mean, right? That's kind of shitty, though. And now, because I've been doing it for so long, it probably wouldn't feel as great. Like, I have some crazy stalkers now. Do you? Yeah. I have the crazy... I mean, you could probably imagine. I summon all different types of people with my content. Yeah. A lot of perverts, a lot of crazy people, a lot of radical people. so it's kind of like a stream of just the craziest people you could imagine you need security well I I've been doxxed everywhere I've lived so my address has been leaked on the internet every place I've ever lived since doing this with the exception of where I currently live so gosh don't do it I know but now I live in a really secure area I have no neighbors I have one private road in and out of my house cameras everywhere so if someone was trying to come hit me, I could see him coming.

1:08:34That's good. That's good. When you, when you look back at things, right, is there anything that you've ever said that you regret saying, not because of facts, but emotionally? Yeah, I feel like, you know, I'm imperfect and I'm very like passionate about what I say. So sometimes that comes through a vehicle of like heightened emotions. And so there's been times where I was probably more mean than I needed to be. And I've even apologized to certain people and been like I still don't like what you did or what you how you feel but also I didn't need to be such a bitch about it so I think it's really like a passion for like justice and stuff and I rarely go after people that don't do like you know most of the people I really go after are like predators and um you know just like insane people but yeah that doesn't change that there's a level of responsibility for me to be like a as kind of a person as I can be despite the heated topics no I mean you know that's a good point you know it's uh you know sometimes we can say things even you know even though we get emotional and we we kind of pop off I never do it on camera um but I can I've popped off to my wife before and I felt really really bad about it not to say that it may not have been factual but maybe I went about it the wrong way right I like right I like to say you know I'm rarely wrong but I am going you right yeah because also I don't like to really speak on things I don't know a lot about so like you're not gonna catch a video or commentary for me on like how airplanes work mm-hmm or you know quantum physics or whatever it's like I'm talking about that I make sure I know what I'm talking you're in your lane you stay there yeah and that's important in life right Especially as a creator and as a public figure, you have guardrails.

1:10:25And you have to stay in them. Stay in them so you can be great. Well, thank you so much for coming. This has been fun to catch up. I know you've got a lot more things to do. You're kind of on tour. You enjoy going around everywhere. Hopefully, you guys get to go home soon and rest. A few days, yeah. This was great. Thank you so much for having me. It's been a pleasure. Thank you again. Actually, one more question. Oh my God, I can't believe I almost forgot the most important question of the interview. After everything that you've been through in your life, what does being determined actually mean to you?

1:11:00I think it means knowing that when you go through things, it's not permanent. It's just a season. Everything passes, even the worst things. And knowing that you have the ability to transmute anything. Like you have the ability to turn something into something that actually helps you later or helps other people. Like you can be really in despair about certain things. But as long as you know, like there will be a way to use this to make me a better person. You know, that way you're never a victim to something. You're never, you know, at the whim of the world or circumstances. I really feel that adversity is something that instead of running from or why is this happening to me?

1:11:41I can't believe this. It's like, what is this going to teach me? how's it gonna benefit me yes because if that's a paradigm shift like think about one is relinquishing power one is claiming it i recently did a ted talk on it or a tedx talk on it about adversity being the real classroom in life right it's like everything that i've gone through like all the bad shit it has built me to talk about this it's like it's almost like God knew right yeah of course of course he did it's like alright you're gonna go through all this stuff and you're you have to let it shape you but you're gonna come out the other side as this guy and so for me it's just that's a really good really good definition of determination because I feel like everything that happens is that you have to grab onto it and be like okay I might I might with certain things feel really shitty about it for a small period of time I'm not a hypocrite and I'm also not a robot I'm a human so if something bad happens or you know I lose a big deal you know I can get to a point where like oh my god it's crashing down like oh my god the anxiety kicks in but you know what I wake up the next morning and I go to the gym and those thoughts are gone I go how am I going to fix this like I get into the energy of what What's next?

1:13:03What am I going to do to focus on a solution and then implement it? And I think that's the most important thing in life. Yeah. Otherwise you're just at the whim of whatever happens to you and you start taking all this damage when even, you know, damage is like how you make a diamond, right? It's like whatever the phrase is. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I also, it's hard to even relate to people who have never really been through anything. I find personally, it's hard for me to really have a conversation with someone who doesn't know what it's like to be in the trenches a little bit. I can't vibe with anybody that hasn't been just obliterated by adversity.

1:13:43Right. Because it's like, what, what do we have in common at that point? You know, and, and the one thing that does drive me crazy when people say, I've never, I'm good. I've never been through this adversity. It's like, yeah, dude. Yeah, you have. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're turning your back on it. You're not accepting it. That's denial. And then the problem with that is it still lives in you and it comes out in all these different ways so like the way that trauma will affect you and people think of trauma as only like these huge things that happen like people think trauma means oh the worst things and it does but also like just little things like little like rejection traumas throughout the day little those things add up and if you don't learn how to transmute it and change it into something positive it's going to come out in being disrespectful to your partner or um being rude to the waitress or drinking too much alcohol and abusing your body so or how about disease yes literally you know i was just actually talking about this like you have the placebo effect which is like if you think a sugar pill can cure you if you really are ignorant about anything it can shows the power of your mind over your own body and health so if you are always thinking negative thoughts it's like you're going to be sick.

1:14:55Or if you let even negative thoughts that are still in your subconscious that you think aren't there fester, you're just going to get sick. Facts, my friend. Well, thank you so much. Yes, it was fun. It was amazing. So guys go check out miss Blair white on Instagram, go search her YouTube channel. And, uh, you know what? Go support her, go support her and listen to what she has to say. But here's what I'm going to tell you when you do this, actually take the time to find out who the person is not just what she is saying all right guys and until next time stay determined