Breaking Norms Through Grief | Discipline, Faith & Human Connection

32:31Totally worth it. Yeah. I mean, absolutely. Like Cody said, the kid, you made the kid's day. Totally worth it as he's sitting here with his regular back. Fuck out of here. I'm like six chiropractor visits into that fucking little kid. if anybody ever screams back flip and you're 40 plus leave it alone i don't know how to do one well i do well clearly so i thought i was actually i'm actually surprised because i was waiting for the punchline like is this the first time you tried it yeah what the hell no i'm very happy about this you didn't know he was a gymnast i had very happy about this podcast because my lower back is really happy right now like oh finally you're sitting down yeah in a way that you're comfortable i can't believe you didn't have faith in me for you to be comfortable well it's not just studio so i know you're leaving we're guests we're guests full circle yeah this is um this is a dream man we get to wake up every day and really you know for us like it it's almost uh and i mean this in a literal way like just no different than Cody saying everybody loves my brother everybody loved my brother and still do he was Brian O 'Connor in the Walker home he was Paul man you know they look at Michael Jackson he may have been a superstar not comparing notes but that was Janet's brother man you know like that's family We play in the pool together.

34:15We go to school together. Mom is picking us up and dropping us off in the carpool lane. All of these memories and moments. And then the star or multiple stars get pushed out into the world. But in the midst of all that they're doing, to them, they're just still regular. And so for us, and I'm not going to speak for Cody, but for me, man, there's a saying never never allow yourself to get too familiar with being blessed you know and who i mean if you cried over losing paul and you didn't personally know him never hit a beer with him never hung out with him it's just everything about his energy and what he was and what he represented that was really him you know they were filming his actual life now for me i'm on sets with super large cars, tuners, and tuna.

35:16And transformers. Transformers and all of this stuff is high octane and adrenaline. And, bro, I don't even like riding in cars on my window down. I can't stand noise. My ADD level is so real. That's why I said turn the music off. I was wondering what's going on. I thought you just didn't like the song. No, I don't even know what the song was. It just had to be turned off because these thoughts are expensive, and I like to reach them all, especially when I'm tired. So, yeah, we wake up every single day, man, and we literally cannot believe our life. I don't care how long we've been doing Fuel Fest, Fast and the Furious, how long, like, really?

35:58The credit card still works, you know, after all these years? Like, I could actually see that my tank is going empty and go get some gas, or I could actually say I'm hungry and go get some food. You know, like what a blessing it is, man. Like, oh, Dad, you know, we got kids. Dad, can we, can we, can we? And so we're more focused on the experience we want our kids to have over thinking about what it's going to cost. And that's why you work so hard, you know, because why are we here for? You know, our kids' lives are literally supposed to be better than ours, you know. So, yeah, we, at this point, man, as much as we are aware of what's happening with Fuel Fest and this fast or anything about Cody's career, my career, this empire that we're building together or whatever the case may be, all of this shit is bigger than us, man.

36:50Five years from now, 10 years from now, when we fucking IPO or sell this company to Live Nation or just something crazy, we're going to be like, did that really happen? you know so we're not really we're running and doing and and it's a functioning business on the entrepreneurial level we have visions we have huddles we have conversations but we don't really know what the fuck we're doing man we're just in disbelief and hoping that we show up every day and create these experiences that people can never compare to anything they've ever had i want to comment on one part of that initially you said we wake up we do this thing we don't know what the fuck we're doing right we're just blessed i can actually relate to that man when i started i didn't know what i'm doing sometimes i'm still like i don't know how i how i got here other than just showing the fuck up and doing it every single day and being and just be so willing to suck at something for so long and do it in my den and now we're traveling all around america interviewing badasses like you you know like i mean i was listening to your music when i was in fucking high school my man never thought in a million years that i would ever meet you much less interview you not once but twice yeah it's it's an interesting thing and it's because and this is the message i want the audience to really tune into you don't have to know what the hell you're doing you have to have a vision you have to have this thing inside you like i don't know why I'm about to walk away from what I'm supposed to be so I can become who I'm meant to be, right?

38:26And do the things that I'm meant to do. And it takes a lot of discipline. It takes a lot of determination. And dang it, you have to operate in a ton of fear. Yeah, well, I can go even further because this is my world. You ready for this? Yeah. Find somebody else who has turned 30 seconds into 30 years. Hmm. Call me lucky if you want. Call me blessed if you want. Work my ass off to get here. Got to laugh at shit that ain't funny. Got to play the game to win the game. No ill will, no fucked up intentions towards nobody. Don't have to shoot, stab, be condescending and disrespectful, clamming your way up to the top.

39:13I started listening to 48 Laws of Power as an audio book. I threw the shit away. nobody needs to do all of that hurtful shit to climb your way up to the success ladder how about you have a heart how about you move as a person with visions and the audacity on a delusional level to believe that it's actually possible to get it done your mama may have been an alcoholic your daddy may have been a crackhead in and out of jail who gives a fuck they were born individuals individuals you were born an individual either you're going to come up with a million excuses to become them or you can recognize your individuality and go get it nobody in my family has ever been a millionaire never owned a home never owned driven anything twenty thousand dollars plus never lived the life and lifestyle i've ever lived insecure people will look at me like i'm bragging i'm telling you my truth and my truth might make you uncomfortable nobody gave me shit.

40:13I don't ride coattails. I'm not a groupie. My soul is not for sale. I don't smoke. I don't drink. And nobody can say that I ever fucked over them purposely to clam my way up to be bigger and better. So when I'm on the receiving end of people trying to do wrong by me when I never do wrong by anybody, I will knock your fucking head off because I don't bother nobody. I will always stand up for myself. I gave myself permission to be great. I decided that it's going to be over one day. And what will I have to show for it? If you decide that this world is going to be the same as you found it, then get rid of yourself.

40:58You're like, to me, you're like shit on a piece of toilet paper. You know, we all have an opportunity to change this place. You got a problem with environmental issues, do something. You got a problem with the inner city, do something. You got a problem with the car culture, you think it should look like this and drive like that and be this and that, do something. Get the ideas out. Be impactful. Matter. Do something. And it doesn't matter how much time you have. Paul Walker lived and he passed and he still impacted the world within that window. Look at how long Dr. King, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

41:37started his journey in Montgomery, Alabama. I got the story and I'll tell you, he went to Montgomery, Alabama, not for Rosa Parks. He went to Montgomery, Alabama because he got an opportunity to be a first ever senior pastor at a church because he was preaching at his father's church, Martin Luther King, Sr. And he was Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. And his dad would never let him take over the church. So he's like, whenever I preach, I'm on fire. They love me. I might as well step out there and do my own thing now. The first opportunity he got to be his own senior pastor of a church was in Montgomery, Alabama.

42:20Then a black woman decided, my feet is hurt. Shut the fuck up. I'm not going to the back of the bus. Her name, Rosa Parks. He decided to do something because of the way they treated that woman. And he got thrusted into civil rights activism. And if you look at the start of the Rosa Parks Montgomery bus boycott, and when he died on April 4th, 1968 at the Lorraine Motel on that balcony. It's not a lot of time. Tupac died at 25, bro. Everybody's still talking about him. You know, Paul got to live until he was 40. If he had lived till he was 50, we already love him within what he did in that little window.

43:09It would have been more, you know? So I just think at the end of the day, the way I look at it with the determined society, empty yourself of everything that you are if you think next week is promised just look at the news all of the people car accident, mass killing, shooting, building crash and then the earthquake, tsunami we are reminded of death every single day and it's arrogant to believe that the next seconds of life belong to you get your shit together now you know I'll get to it next week alright right boom bus hit them move on your shit now be unapologetic about the audacity to dream and go forward faith is faith yes but i'm telling y 'all right now it's faith and action you know how many people at home praying everybody pray at some point if you don't get off your knees and do the work you're gonna be thinking that ed mcmahon is gonna show up to your door with a million dollars it ain't happening no mr kfc is not showing up to give you a million dollars at your door you got to go get it and in closing because i had to give you all that in closing i would say and cody i'm sure he'll agree maybe everybody would agree i have never in my life i'm 47 born in 78 december 30th capricorn i have never in my fucking life ever been exposed to so many opportunities for people to make money ever i don't care if it's uber eats uber lyft it's like none of this stuff existed phone apps social media influencers instagram facebook every opportunity to flip something into something and you just stay at it you know what we're doing is technically traditional these guys are out here literally making millions of dollars from their iPhones day trading looking up everything on YouTube videos like you don't even have to go to school to learn how to day trade it's just all all of you got chat GPT to fill in all the blank sometime I'll be like man I talk to chat GBT more than I talk to God.

45:37I might have to switch it up a little bit because the information is just so thorough and fluent. And I know my heart wants to win. So I just need y 'all to know, man, this is not just another interview. We are not just fucking around. You know, we take this shit serious, bro. This fuel fest thing is so real. And we are very present in the impact that we're making. and we're very present in the lives that are being shifted from these experiences that we're creating. And we're also very grateful and blessed that we actually had an idea and we huddled about it and we went from zero to hero. And if it all ended tomorrow, 30, 40, 50 Fuel Fest events later, fuck, man, we did it.

46:32I think everybody can agree that going into a furniture store can be one of the most stressful things you can ever experience as a homeowner or a renter trying to fulfill all the furniture for your home or apartment. But I got to tell you what, when my wife and I bought our home, we needed to outfit our whole office. We needed a desk and we needed a place to read because we love to do that. So we found this amazing purple futon that just, we knew it was going to fit perfectly in there and come to find out once we ordered from Wayfair, oh my gosh, we were so happy. So happy with how it looked in the space.

47:12So again, we ordered from Wayfair and honestly, you should too. They have everything from seating to appliances, grills, storage, lightings, and decor. One place, everything you need. No bouncing between stores. But here's the best part. I can't stand putting things together. But don't worry about it. They can literally deliver and put together and do everything from A to Z for you. You just pick what you want and they deal with the rest. Ready to upgrade your home for way less? Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home and get your space ready for less. That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com. Wayfair, every style, every home.

47:57You know, shit, man, this shit started in the rain, bro. We got rained out in the parking lot of Angel Stadium. We looked at each other like, damn, bro, what are the odds? And then we realized that that was a baptism. oh my god yeah it was it was the beginning and we realized we had something really special because it was when we say raining it was raining it was like it was raining and it never stopped raining ever it was raining vertical and sideways that's right and wind and we had thousands of people in southern california out there with their cars and we still had an awesome event i mean the silver lining to it was obviously this isn't one anyone what anyone wanted but look around this has to be the most highly uh uh uh highly attended event in the rain for a car event ever yeah like it was the vip and we didn't have one thing this is what's the other thing going back to what Cody so eloquently shared about just like nobody complains.

49:11In the rain for Fuel Fest number one, VIPs, no complaints. In the rain. The rain made it special. We're talking about it right now in a way.

49:27I'm grateful. I'm grateful that it rained that day. I look back at it. We talk about it now and we're laughing. it was nonstop rain, but it makes it special. It was like, you know, we're being baptized by the rain. We didn't look at it that way then. At the time, no. I look at it now with like a fondness, you know? Here's another connection. Where was our event at? The parking lot I mentioned. Do you hear me? Did y 'all hear me? It was Angel Stadium. Angel Stadium experiencing a baptism. Yeah. Okay. It was very real. And of course, we didn't think about that. We were thinking about, oh, man, are people going to be safe going in and out of the event?

50:14Are people going to try and sue us because the water damaged their cars? Can we postpone it? The answer was no. They would never, ever have a$700 ,000 Lamborghini outdoors in the rain. This thing would have been parked so far. are we going to be responsible if they hit a pothole or or it hydroplanes and runs into we were thinking about so much it's our first show yeah yeah ever first one there's a lot of fear and that's yeah yeah yeah that's kind of part of it like your podcast you know it's like you have to you have to you know you you come up with some some idea or something you know you you just gotta you gotta go and you gotta accept the fact that um you're gonna fail a lot and but you're gonna learn from the failures i know it's said all the time it's such a cliche but it's so true like i i was 25 i was 25 years old when paul died and i'm gonna be 38 in two days and i've had to learn i've learned so much i was on a completely different trajectory in life i had my own career i was living in oregon like you were driving an ambulance i was i was a paramedic and um i wanted i was i was uh i was gonna i would have been a fireman fireman paramedic but i got the paramedic first to increase my chances of getting hired because it was really competitive then you know kind of ebbs and flows um it's it's a good job it's a it's an honorable job and it's it's what i always wanted to do it's bloody um but my mom is a nurse you know i kind of grew up with that and was kind of always interested in that sort of thing but anyway i you know in creating fuel fest but then before fuel fest like picking up the torch for reach out worldwide like dude i i was a paramedic but i didn't i didn't know what the hell i was doing you know and like none of it reach out worldwide was not as i alluded to earlier was not set up in a way where it was going to exist long term without Paul.

52:16Exactly. And so, man, like, you know, and I'm not, I can't sit here and say I was given shit, nothing in life. Like what I did have was I had good people, good family, good friends that were knowledgeable and have good hearts that were able to mentor. I had good mentors. I had good mentors. So I'm eternally forever grateful. They know who they are if they're watching or listening to this. But that's what I did have, but I failed a shit ton. And when it comes to at some point in your life, we all hate lawyers until you need a lawyer. But it's like I look at that stuff, though, and it's like when you make these investments, if you're a business owner, you're going to be working with an attorney at some point, right?

53:05Absolutely. For something. Even something simple like the agreement, the contract. Exactly what I was going to say. It could be something super simple like an agreement. What I've done is instead of like, okay, all right, I'm going to pay you or whatever, like I look at it like, dude, I'm paying you however much per hour. Like I'm going to now educate myself on what it is that you're doing. I'm not going to run around now and pretend I'm an attorney, but damn it, I'm paying for your time. I'm not, it's not just spit out this paper and now I'm going to forward it. I want to know, okay, let's break this down.

53:41Tell me what's in this agreement and why is it written like this and how does this protect me or protect them. I look at all of those annoyances that you have to pay for, let's call it that, as also a learning opportunity. Don't think of it as just a transactional thing like money is out and whatever. Take the time to kind of break it down and understand what's going on. that way next time around like you still might you know you're just you're more knowledgeable and and uh it's just i don't know does that make sense no it makes perfect sense you know it's a learning opportunity i see that as like a learning opportunity whenever you need to specialize anything i'm using the word attorney but specialize anything it's like kind of get a grasp of what they're doing industry yeah starting a podcast being a freaking gymnast a bowler i don't give a shit there's there's mechanisms within that and what tyree said so beautifully by the way that is the most beautiful thing i've ever heard you say ever about the when you went on that monologue talking to everybody all the audience about determination and moving forward in your life no matter what circumstances you've been given you know he explained it beautifully that is the ethos of the show and then you gave the example the exact example of what i mean and what i want the audience to understand is it doesn't matter if you're ready or you're not if your number is called your number is called period in the story yeah you figure it out you jump out the window with no parachute yeah you jump out of the plane just don't bungee jump you know don't do that and you build the parachute on the way down right yeah you learn through you through stubbing your toe in in becoming the the ceo of you know reach out worldwide you you learn all that and if you if you push away those opportunities then you never grow into the man you're supposed to be or the woman you're supposed to be so beautifully said in in one hell of an example yeah and this all started with us meeting up at red lobster yeah red lobster was the fuel fest yeah wow he never ate at red lobster you went to a red lobster i love red you you really yeah i had the biscuits He had never been.

55:54I had never been to Red Locks. And the original idea was called Carcello. Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. And at first, the idea was, show up, bro. We know who you are. We know how much you meant to Paul and the franchise. And I was like, nah, bro, I think this has got all the potential in the world. We just, like, let's hold arms on this thing for real. Damn. And here we are, man. It's beautiful. yeah it's it's like so when i speak to the impact it's real you know never get too familiar with being blessed get up every day and get it um and for every level there's another devil heard and felt and experiencing experiencing constantly right yeah wow you never ever get You know, my prayers are often, and I'm going to share them with y 'all.

56:59Father God, I love you and I trust you. Order my footsteps. Allow me to get familiar with the unfamiliar. Stay behind me to push me, above me to cover me, beneath me to sustain me, and inside of me to fulfill me with your love because I never want the way I feel about me to be based on what's in my bank account or the way I feel about myself to be based on someone validating me or not, believing in me or not. You got to be delusional, bro. They always make narcissism into a negative, but there is an aspect of self-belief and willpower and determination that has to come with saying if you pull out your calculator and you do the math every indication that you're supposed to quit is there one thousand every time now you know cody walker will tell you the person who wanted to do fuel fest events at the height of a pandemic this crazy motherfucker the person who got all these emails like dude we're about to fucking do a COVID super spreader event and I don't want no parts of the backlash and energy and lawsuits that's come pouring in and every single time I got on stage and seen 10, 12 ,000 people I was like either Cozy is the craziest motherfucker in the world or all of these people are all collectively crazy because what are y 'all doing out here okay I'm on stage with masks on and shit Yeah, we love y 'all.

58:45What the fuck? Hey, fuel fast. Get me to my fucking car. And he was just like, nah, bro, you got to show up. People are going to love this shit. And I'm just like, yeah, bro, everything. These moments are defining moments. Got to unpack a little bit. Unpack a little bit of what you said. First it's the fucking toilet paper. Now it's this. But no, listen, he never was the guy. The two-ply to super spreader events. No, no, no. He was not thinking there was, I love him because there's no malicious intent. Of course. And it's not like he wasn't listening and paying attention to the science. He just was saying, people are responsible and we're going to do this.

59:32And we're not going to let this randomness of this thing get in the way of the impact that we're looking to make. Now, I myself would have made some different choices. but every time I got on that stage and I looked at how many people actually showed up, I would always walk up to Cody and whisper in his ear, you're fucking crazy. But I was wrong. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. So the audacity to dream and look at all the challenges and all the stuff and cave and say, Oh man, I'm crazy. This motherfucker is crazy. He's crazy. It takes two. It takes two, baby. And, you know. I love this because I'm seeing the dynamic.

1:00:26You can't see it on Zoom. So just to be clear, we started Fuel Fest, kicked off in the spring of 2019. The very first Fuel Fest ever was at Angel Stadium, pouring rain. I'm crazy. So we took it to the UK, the second Fuel Fest ever. He was there as well. Yeah, it was nuts. It was a great show. The show's changed a lot since then, but it was a great show. That's in August of 2019. We start planning for 2020, right? Because this is not, we didn't have a big, it was just two shows that year. We start planning for 2020, and the pandemic hits. and so we shut everything down um it was so difficult we held nothing in 2020 we didn't have anything until june of 2021 and uh that was the very first show and we got so lucky and we kept postponing that it was at the irwindale show back to southern california again it was at Irwindale Speedway which is now gone R.I.P.

1:01:35Irwindale um we kept moving our date Speedway rest in peace yeah we kept we kept moving our date um trying to anticipate when uh Newsome was going to allow big outdoor gatherings to happen again and Irwindale was a great partner obviously they're hurting they can't have anything going on there so we just kept moving our date and updating people as we went along it's like you know and we secure we it's like the fifth time sixth time we've moved the date we've secured i think it was june 19th whatever um and then two weeks prior roughly two weeks prior to that i believe is what it was newsome hinted that that was going to be the weekend that they were going to reopen southern california and we had it baby badass dude so here we are irwindale open air sunny people were starving for an event like that again that level of isolation oh my god it felt so good the smile we could not keep clothes on people man yeah people were so it turned into a nudist event It was serious.

1:02:52A lot of skin, a lot of outdoor. I think everybody can agree that going into a furniture store can be one of the most stressful things you can ever experience as a homeowner or a renter trying to fulfill all the furniture for your home or apartment. But I got to tell you what, when my wife and I bought our home, we needed to outfit our whole office. We needed a desk and we needed a place to read because we love to do that. So we found this amazing purple futon that just, we knew it was going to fit perfectly in there. And come to find out once we ordered from Wayfair, oh my gosh, we were so happy.

1:03:31So happy with how it looked in the space. So again, we ordered from Wayfair and honestly, you should too. They have everything from seating, appliances, grills, storage, lightings, and decor. One place, everything you need, no bouncing between stores. but here's the best part. I can't stand putting things together but don't worry about it. They can literally deliver and put together and do everything from A to Z for you. You just pick what you want and they deal with the rest. Ready to upgrade your home for way less? Head to wayfair.com right now to shop all things home and get your space ready for less.

1:04:10That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com. Way fair, every style, every home. And, you know, it was like there's people that believe, didn't believe in the whole, you know, pandemic of it all. But I don't remember seeing more than three or four masks at our events, and I probably had on all three. Probably. Four masks at the event, and I was wearing three. Damn. Okay? Everyone had a different comfortability in that time. Yeah, absolutely. And so, you know what? That's fine. That's what I'm saying. It's a part of being an adult. We've grown. We're making decisions. but I'm telling you, you know, this is my baby bro right here.

1:04:51But, and, you know, and I allow myself to let younger folks or people that may not be my exact age that I can respect and look up to and be like, oh, shit, you know, you fucking balls to the wall. You went for it. And, you know, we're in this and I wasn't going to let you out to dry. so I showed up and every single time I was like yo I was wrong you were right and I would whisper it I did it like four times on stage and and I'm not I'm not he's telling me this I'm not like demanding yeah who's right yeah I'm not who's your daddy yeah never no never it was just like that One thing about me, right, is I just, integrity-wise, I just literally give love and respect where it's due.

1:05:44I'm not going to be thinking a good thought about you and just let my pride and my ego stop me from saying I was wrong and you were right. So it was, dude, you tripping here. I mean, we still got the emails. It was legendary. Before ChatGVT, I was, what are we doing? What are we doing? This is ridiculous. and we've gone through some shit. Forged. But see, that's what makes it beautiful. That's what makes it real. And then it's always the outcome, right? Yeah. Go through your stuff behind the scenes. You might be on the same, but you might not when, where, how, and what. But then when you get on the stage and you look at the fruits of the pushing forward, it's beautiful, man.

1:06:27Yeah, man. So, you know, I just hope, even as we're sitting there talking, and insecure people would feel like we're bragging, we're gloating. We're saying to you what we did is a very specific thing and what we're doing is a very specific thing, but it's nothing you can't do. Yeah, man. You know, and your girlfriends and boyfriends and your family would probably be the first ones to try and talk you out of your shit because they just decided to be toilet paper and be regular and you got some shit that's keeping you up at night, Them dreams that are keeping you up at night, you don't understand it.

1:07:03You don't understand why your mind is always up there with the care bears, just dreaming, and you got the audacity. Like, bro, I'm on my way to India right now in the next couple of days to go and spend time with the wealthiest family in the world, one of the wealthiest families in the world. Like, I'm a black boy from South Central L.A., and they know my name as one name, Tyrese, over 200 languages around the world. I'm not going to be able to, I will live and die and never be able to shake hands and meet with everybody that's a Tyrese fan. That's a fact. And that's, that is pressure. And so now how do I measure up to my existence while I'm still here?

1:07:47That's what it's about. You know, if I was motivated by money, I've made way too much money for me to work as hard as I do right now. There's nobody in this room that could outwork me. Cody works hard, but he's working hard with his things that he's doing, including Fuel Fest. I got 50 things literally happening, firing off in all different ceilings, and nobody around me can keep up with me. And because I'm just that determined to empty myself of all of these dreams and visions that keep me up at night, and knowing that this place is going to stay the same if I don't change it. That's it. dude so that's that those exact feelings which you're talking about being up the dreams the visions it's something that you can say haunts me or something that drives me that keeps me going 100 miles an hour to a point where sometimes my lovely wife goes hey do you you you can slow down you you can take a beat you can take a breath appreciate where you're at right i'm like oh no no no because if i do that i get comfortable right and so i can't operate like that so a lot like y 'all i'm constantly pushing i'm pushing the envelope i want to grow and it's nice to be sitting in the room with people that understand that you know so there's a concept these days man you stay at home you lose your home yeah and uh damn yeah yeah it's just like i love my wife i love my kids i may miss out on a lot of moments that i can never get back because i wasn't there i wasn't present i was traveling i was moving but i got this thing in my head i don't quite want you to struggle the way i did one thing about struggling is i wake up every single day and what happens for all of us we wake up hungry every day doesn't matter how much money what you have in your fridge You cook for yourself.

1:09:52You got a chef. There is impossible. There's no way that you're going to eat dinner, go to sleep, and not wake up and want to have something for breakfast or lunch according to when you wake up. Every day, multiple times a day, you're thirsty and you're hungry. So that levels the playing field right there. We're not talking about putting on one pan and shoot at a time at a time. Everybody got a piss and shit. What makes you any different than me? We've heard all those cliche sayings. One thing's for sure, I do not need to be reminded of the struggle when at some point multiple times a day I'm hungry.

1:10:27And that same little boy that was hungry living in South Central L.A., I could not eat when I was hungry. When fucking drive-by shootings, crips and bloods and gangsters and excessive force and murder and police brutality and, you know, substance abuse and all of this dysfunctional shit happening. I was there and I could not leave I couldn't just get in the car and be like yo I don't want to be here no more and pull off I was fucking in it the belly of the beast so the idea that my kids are not living in that like what are we talking about and you think I'm about to negotiate and just give it all away no can't do it for me to give it all away would be like me saying I don't love my kids

1:11:20but but that but that's all think about it no i have three i have three i'm not home right now yeah right i'm not home right now i missed out on moments the last four days but you are at home but but i'm i'm there you are at home yeah what you're doing right now while being away from home is going to help them to keep the home absolutely that's the whole thing it's all for them man That's it. That's all for them. I got two daughters, and I haven't even wanted to bust a bubble, man. I have not wanted to bust a bubble. It's like you've had nannies, drivers, caretakers, butlers, chefs, people, pickups, drop-offs.

1:12:04You've had everything you've ever wanted your whole life. you're so used to this you don't even realize that this ain't normal yeah man like you have no realization of what it's like to not have this because even if you're around people that don't have it they're talking about it and it's like foreign it's like somebody going you just like what the fuck are you talking about i don't even speak that language i hear you saying something but i can't i can't process it i don't even like when i roll out of bed i don't make up my bed when I'm hungry I just call my chef and he makes something and if I don't want to go downstairs and eat it he'll bring it up to my room they have no fucking concept that this was not the reality that their dad had and that's the way you want to keep it absolutely man and we're not talking about spoiled we're talking about safety security sacrifice and I'm 7 ,000 flights into this life and lifestyle to your benefit it so if i don't want you to think ever and i'm gonna say this to you and every other father in here okay don't ever try and convince yourself that your kids will love you any less because you're the least available present parent okay if your wife was a lawyer she's got to stay up all night going over the court case she's got to be in the courtroom at 6 a.m in the morning So you become the mom dad on behalf of your wife who has to carry the torch.

1:13:40Sometimes the pendulum swings the other way. Is she now a deadbeat mama because she has to be in the courtroom with multiple cases every day? No, sir. No, of course not. Am I a deadbeat dad because I'm waking up every single day working my ass off so that my kid's life and lifestyle never, ever, ever looks the way mine did? No. Can't pay me out to be no deadbeat. you know go say that shit to the courthouse it'll never be true and as i walk up out of here because we we're supposed to be here for 30 minutes and well you you're saying beautiful shit i can't stop no no i mean i'm not gonna stop i'm not stopping but but you know as we wrap this up man you know it at the end of the day man it's very true we give our our kids the audacity to dream you know they look at us and they're like yo my dad showed me what's possible and there is a such thing like i call my daughter gibson air h-e-i-r she's the air we're both still alive usually you hear the word air once somebody you know oh he left all this money and wealth to his kids and they're the heirs her name is shayla gibson air you know it's shayla air gibson you know yeah and it's the thinking it's the mind state of oh no no i'm really building something and daddy is not going to be fucked up two years after he passes away and so it's all has its levels it's getting there There's an algorithm.

1:15:21It may not all be here right now, but I'm building something, and you're the heir. So be patient with me. If I miss your dance recital or a basketball game, don't hold it against me. Your mama's available 24 hours, seven days a week. She don't do what I do. But your mama's the beneficiary is what I do. So let me cook. We cooking with grease, baby. Yeah, that's it. Damn, he's spitting some shit, man. amazing and guys thank you so much for coming on once again and uh dude it was it was a pleasure to do this in person this time um to give you guys a hug and and see the dynamic that you guys have together you can't see it virtually i'm gonna tell you that you can't because you're in separate freaking rooms right but um for the audience thank you so much for listening fuelfest.com many events the rest of this year go check them out many many opportunities to connect with these two and everybody else that is involved with fuel fest i highly suggest knowing now that you know the mission when you show up and you know what take a leap and do the vip experience if there's anything available man you get to sit next to these people you know meet and greet talk to them pictures all that kind of stuff experience the true culture of fuel fest and until next time stay determined