In short
Building youth fitness discipline through CrossFit-style training, nutrition education, and mental-health support; includes critiques of modern PE and diet/sugar effects on focus and behavior.
Guest
Donnie Keller, owner of Ionic CrossFit box in Bonita Springs, Southwest Florida. Background: grew up in Benita Springs; family owned Farmer Mike’s produce farm (since the 1960s). Studied exercise science and marketing at FGCU. Started Ionic CrossFit after coaching early classes and eventually bought out partners (2014–2019 timeframe), working multiple jobs (including bartending) and taking no salary while paying owners. Also discusses corporate America experience (as context from host) and discipline mindset.
Key claims
- Youth PE is “a joke” now; he cites stricter 8th-grade PE pass/fail mile-time testing vs today’s reduced testing.
- Diet/sugar contributes to higher youth body fat and attention issues; he claims kids under 18 average ~24% body fat vs ~20% for average American pig.
- Fitness builds confidence and grades by creating structure, competence, and mental peace.
- Discipline is “hard things consistently,” not perfection; “progress, not perfection.”
Notable examples
- “Wilson’s Fit Features” founded after client Doug Wilson (public defender) said he “traded health for wealth,” lost 50 pounds, then died in his sleep; his wife Doyle co-founded the program.
- Program serves ages 11–17; over 60 kids helped, goal to exceed 100 by year’s end; funded with minimal admin and community donations, aiming for free memberships.
- A previously withdrawn, slightly overweight girl improved from struggling to focus (B/C grades) to A/B grades and higher confidence after joining Monday/Wednesday sessions.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Health Crisis in Youth
0:00 to 0:45
Discussing alarming statistics about childhood obesity.
“The average kid under 18 is fatter than the average American pig.”
Personal Transformation Story
0:45 to 2:18
Sharing a personal story about a client who faced health challenges.
“A man here local in Southwest Florida is doing amazing things for kids through his gym, getting them nutrition advice and training sessions donated by small to mid-sized businesses here locally in Southwest Florida.”
Donnie's Journey and Entrepreneurial Spirit
2:42 to 4:36
Exploring Donnie's background and his path to owning a gym.
“Fast forward, go to college, take exercise science, take marketing.”
The Struggle of Building a Business
4:36 to 6:28
Discussing the hardships and sacrifices made while building a gym.
“So I was there for from June, June to October.”
Navigating Challenges During COVID-19
6:28 to 8:34
Sharing experiences of financial struggles during the pandemic.
“So you sit in a, uh, bartend until 2 AM clean until four open up Sunday.”
Power of One More
8:34 to 10:28
Discussing the importance of perseverance and not giving up.
“And then, so, you know, when you live in this, I don't want to say, I mean, you know, you got to have faith in what you're doing and you got to understand that.”
Wilson's Fit Features Foundation
10:28 to 12:40
Explaining the foundation's mission and its impact on the community.
“You know, and I think that's natural to have those feelings in those moments of weaknesses.”
The Legacy of Doug Wilson
13:13 to 14:00
Reflecting on the impact of Doug's life and his influence on the foundation.
“I have him getting on the in body every month.”
Reflections on a Friend's Passing
14:00 to 17:24
Discussing the impact of a friend's death and his legacy.
“His wife calls me literally at 9am crying.”
The Importance of Physical Education
17:24 to 23:39
Examining changes in physical education and their implications for youth.
“What an amazing technology that Therabody has.”
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Nutrition's Role in Youth Fitness
23:39 to 28:00
Exploring the effects of diet on children's health and behavior.
“So let me know how you guys like it until then stay determined.”
The Impact of Fitness on Youth
28:00 to 29:54
Discussing how fitness programs positively affect children's confidence and academic performance.
“or what the right way to be or how to make money.”
Building Confidence Through Hardship
31:05 to 34:08
Exploring how overcoming challenges in fitness correlates with success in other life areas.
“And when you can do that, especially for these young kids that have so much being thrown at them at a young age that we didn't have.”
Real-Life Transformations
34:08 to 36:16
Sharing inspiring stories of youth transformation through fitness programs.
“One of them is a swimmer at Canterbury out in Naples.”
Nutrition and Its Importance
36:16 to 37:48
Discussing the significance of proper nutrition and its effects on fitness and health.
“You know, it's not the best choice, but don't limit yourself because then you're going to resent it and you're going to hate the process.”
The Role of Diet in Disease Prevention
37:48 to 41:48
Examining how diet impacts health issues like cancer and diabetes.
“I mean, I'll have my, you know, I'll have my intact grass fed protein because that's a way I can get two shakes a day.”
Finding Balance with Enjoyment
41:48 to 42:00
Discussing the importance of enjoying food while maintaining a healthy lifestyle.
The Struggle with Indulgence and Self-Control
42:00 to 45:08
The hosts discuss their struggles with indulging in sweets and the impact on their health.
“And I'm like, well, I'm not going to pay for delivery for three or six donuts.”
Nutritional Strategies for Youth
45:08 to 47:28
They explore ways to help kids make healthier food choices and the importance of communication with parents.
“have six donuts, if you're moving your body five, six days a week and the bulk of your diet comes from real food, you're not going to gain an ounce.”
Understanding Carbohydrates and Energy
47:28 to 49:58
A deep dive into the role of carbohydrates in our diets and their effect on energy levels.
“But the rest of the day, like tonight, I'm having steak for dinner.”
The Importance of Cholesterol and Vitamin D
49:58 to 53:02
The discussion centers around the significance of cholesterol and vitamin D for overall health.
“There's three macros, carbs, fats, and protein.”
Adapting Fitness Goals Over Time
54:19 to 56:00
The hosts share insights on adapting fitness routines and the importance of listening to your body.
“But then I think like, wait a second, man.”
The Importance of Deloading in Fitness
56:00 to 56:44
Learn about the benefits of taking a step back in your fitness journey.
“I don't, I don't, let me finish this thought.”
Building Muscle at Any Age
56:44 to 57:59
Discover how to build muscle and strength, even as you age.
“you can get you can build muscle at 80 you know what you know drives me crazy is when people say, well, you know, I'm 40 now, I can't build muscle or, you know, I'm at 40.”
Leading by Example for Kids
57:59 to 59:18
Understand how personal fitness journeys inspire children to adopt healthy habits.
“I love going to the gym now because I know what it did for my mentality.”
The Power of Family Fitness
59:18 to 1:00:22
Explore how family involvement in fitness creates strong bonds.
“So you can do either 3.30 or you can do 6.30.”
Life Lessons Through Fitness
1:00:22 to 1:02:01
Learn how fitness can teach resilience and dedication to children.
“your children, lead your children by doing and showing them the right ways, not preaching it to them.”
Health vs. Wealth: A Personal Reflection
1:02:01 to 1:03:10
Reflect on the balance between maintaining health and pursuing wealth.
“I mean, maybe that's the reason why he passed, you know?”
The Impact of Community Programs
1:03:10 to 1:04:21
Understand how community fitness programs benefit both kids and parents.
“And on the times where I was just primarily fat, you know, like it's hard to function on the weekends.”
Funding Community Fitness Initiatives
1:04:21 to 1:05:25
Learn how local businesses can support youth fitness programs.
“And also because of that, their parents are also working out and getting fit and they're doing things together.”
Funding Community Fitness Initiatives
1:05:31 to 1:06:39
Learn how local businesses can support youth fitness programs.
“You can go donate monthly, yearly, one time.”
Transparency and Accountability in Nonprofits
1:07:23 to 1:10:01
Explore the importance of accountability and transparency in nonprofit operations.
“Um, that's where I got most of the funding for last year.”
Building Youth Discipline Through Nonprofits
1:10:01 to 1:12:54
Learn how nonprofits can support fitness and life skills in youth.
“If the funding is there, I know it's super easy to find kids that will come twice a week at minimum if there's four days a week.”
Discipline Through Family Commitment
1:14:05 to 1:16:04
Understand how commitment to family can foster personal discipline.
“People tell me they don't have discipline.”
Navigating Health Challenges
1:16:05 to 1:18:44
Explore insights on health, testosterone levels, and lifestyle choices.
“That's a trend going on on Instagram, right?”
Men's Mental Health and Open Communication
1:18:45 to 1:24:01
Learn about the importance of mental health and communication among men.
“The only thing that I, what I check most is my PSA because it runs in my family, but I'm 0.2.”
The Importance of Honest Communication
1:24:01 to 1:25:01
Learn how open conversations between parents and children foster growth.
“And then, you know, he's decided not to, you know, be tight.”
Building Bonds Through Shared Experiences
1:25:01 to 1:26:07
Discover how physical activity strengthens parent-child relationships.
“But through your work, you're giving these kids and these families the opportunity to grow strength and to have these conversations.”
Exercise as a Celebration, Not a Punishment
1:26:07 to 1:26:55
Understand the mindset shift from viewing workouts as chores to celebrations.
“I think what kids watching, even if the kids are too young, So we have some kids that come to the gym with their parents every day at 430.”
Transforming Perspectives on Fitness
1:26:55 to 1:27:49
Hear a memorable insight about fitness being a celebration of ability.
“We did a health and wellness event and I ran the workout.”
The Calling to Serve the Community
1:27:49 to 1:32:16
Explore the motivation behind dedicating efforts to community fitness.
“to realize that movement or exercise is a celebration, not a punishment.”
The Vision for Future Generations
1:32:16 to 1:34:40
Learn about the goal to provide lifelong fitness education for youth.
“For the audience, go check out Donnie Keller on Instagram.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00The average kid under 18 is fatter than the average American pig. Oh my God. That's scary. When I was in PE in eighth grade, you had to run under an eight minute mile. Yeah. Or you didn't pass. Yeah. You got an F. It was either pass or fail. That was it. PE is a joke now. You're helping children, right? It's called Wilson's Fit Features. We helped over 60 kids and the goal is to be over 100 by the end of this year. Why I called it Wilson's Fit Features. Probably two years ago, a client walked in. His name was Doug Wilson. He said something to me that stuck with me and still with me today. He's like, I traded my health for wealth.
0:34I worked every day so I can make money. And look at me now. I'm 65 years old. I'm 350 pounds. I have this, this, this, this, and this wrong with me. Now I'm hiring a personal trainer and a nutrition guy to help me. And that was me. About a year goes by. He's down 50 pounds. He's under 300. We're working out twice a week. We're golfing once a week. He dies in his sleep. Oh my God, dude.
1:01What's up, guys? Welcome back. I have an amazing guest today. A man here local in Southwest Florida is doing amazing things for kids through his gym, getting them nutrition advice and training sessions donated by small to mid-sized businesses here locally in Southwest Florida. This man is doing amazing things, and that's why he's here today because of the amount of value he's given to the community. I have Donnie Keller with me, owner of Ionic CrossFit box here in Bonita Springs. And dude, you just are doing so many amazing things for the, for the youth. I mean, mental health is so important. And I don't think people realize that fitness can bring such an amazing mental peace to you and a tranquility to you that you wouldn't even expect.
1:47But man, without further ado, welcome to the show, buddy. Oh man. Thanks for having me. I'm Jack to have you here, man. Yeah, I'm excited. yeah dude so you're local here right and you grew up here walk me through your journey as you went to fgcu and now you're doing amazing things in the community man so fill in the blanks for us um started off you know born in benita my family owns farmer mike's so it's a local produce farm your family owns farmer mike's get the hell out of here man we're there all the time since like my family's been here since the 60s okay um the farm benita now there's one in four Myers.
2:20Um, when I turned 18, they were like, Hey, you can go work on the farm or you can go to college and pay for it yourself. I said later, I'm not working on this thing. No, sir. I mean, I, uh, I picked, uh, uh, strawberries and stuff as a kid, but, uh, ran from it as soon as I could. Yeah. Um, but I knew I was always going to be an entrepreneur because I started a lawn mowing business when I was a kid. Yeah. Um, called it cuts are us, like toys are us. Hell yeah. Bow that backwards are. Walked around, handed out flyers. Started that way. Fast forward, go to college, take exercise science, take marketing.
2:54Knew that one day I wanted to own a gym. I didn't know how I was going to get there. I just knew that I want to do this because this is where my passion is and I'll eventually learn to make money doing it. Found CrossFit. You can train 50 people at once. Everyone pays a cheaper amount than one-on-one. 101s, they call it 100 bucks an hour. This is 200 bucks a month. Right. So a gym opened, Ionic Fitness, or Ionic CrossFit in Benita. About three months later, I walked in and was like, hey, I'll coach for free if I can train here. At the time, I wanted to go to the CrossFit Games. I want to be a Games athlete, not realizing how hard you have to train.
3:34It's a full-time sport. I have no desire to train that hard. Not anymore, anyway. So they're like, yeah, cool. Started coaching the noon class. There was nobody in classes. It was very, very beginning stages of the gym. One of the late afternoon coaches didn't show up. I was there, so I coached the class. And then one of the owners showed up and was like, hey, where's so-and-so? I don't want to give his name. Where's so-and-so? I was like, I didn't show up. So I just started coaching class. Happened again like a week later. And they're like, hey, man, you want to coach full-time? I was like, yes, I do.
4:05Hell yeah. Yes, I do. So I started coaching full-time. I had 21 on one clients that I trained out of my garage in San Carlos park that I rented from somebody, which is super illegal. You cannot run a business out of somebody else's house, especially without insurance. Of course I didn't have insurance. They didn't have anything. I just had equipment and you're making it happen, dude. Yeah. That's like the beginning. It's like everything starts in a garage, right? Yep. Um, Amazon started in a garage, Apple, all those, right? All those. Now I'm not saying I'm anywhere near their size, but yeah. Uh, yeah.
4:36Hey, there you go. Love that mindset. So I was there for from June, June to October. And in October, one of the owners, there was three owners came to me was like, Hey, do you want to be part owner? And without hesitation, I was like, Yes, I don't know how much it is. I don't know how much you're making. I didn't even look at the numbers. I was like, Yes, I do. So I ended up dropping all money out of my Roth IRA. Pulled it all up, eventually paid fees for it. And bought it didn't have enough to pay for it. So I paid all my salary that I took for the first year, went to paying off the guy. I bartended at the pub in Mercado.
5:11I was there for five or six years, um, worked Friday, Saturday, Sunday, just to make money and eat and pay my bills. And then, uh, worked at the gym Monday through Friday, uh, and didn't take a paycheck cause I was paying off the other guy. So this is what I love about the story, right? Like, and the listeners love this type of stuff. And I do too, because I think when you're building something, you have to do things that you don't want to do until you can do what you want to do full time. 100%. So many people are looking around and going like, I want to do this, but I'm not going to go work another job at night because then I'm going to be too tired and I can't do that.
5:48It's the wrong mindset, man. You know, and I think that, you know, given your family background, right? You look at, you know, Farmer Mike's and everything that they built here since the 60s, it's like, you didn't want to be a part of it as you grew up. But like, bro, that type of work ethic, you know, that you can't overlook that. And I want to commend you for doing what you had to do at night, because that's probably an environment you didn't want to be in all the time. Yeah, man. But you did it. I bartended until two. Oh, Jesus. We cleaned until four. Wow. Go home. This is Friday night. Have to coach at 9 a.m.
6:21Saturday morning. So you, what, three or four hours maybe of sleep? Because you can't fall asleep right away. No. Coach class and then go back home. Sleep the rest of the day. Go back to the pub at 8 p.m. at night. train, uh, train. So you sit in a, uh, bartend until 2 AM clean until four open up Sunday. Cause you made no money Sunday mornings because it was always dead. Um, but because I got Friday, Saturday night shift, I had to work the, the, the shitty shifts on Sunday. So I was like, cool, did it, uh, did it for like five years eventually till I got to the point to where, um, me and another, the, one of the business partners bought out another guy.
6:55So now we're 50, 50. Um, and then And in 2018, I bought out the last guy. And then as soon as I bought him out and I had enough money to, because again, I didn't have all the money I needed to, to pay it. I gave him a big chunk of the money that I had and then paid him monthly. So I didn't take a salary. So again, so I have from, we're talking 2014 to 2019, I didn't take a salary because all the money was going to paying off the other owners. Either the first one I bought or the second one or the third one I bought out. do you know how many people wouldn't have taken those deals because they would have said i need money up front yeah and i'll figure it out but see that's a that's a gift though right that that is the ultimate determination and discipline dude because you can sit there and and want everything in one hand but if you're not willing to sacrifice a little bit up front like i did my show for free for i don't know how long i didn't start making money until 2024 yeah i mean dude and I started it in 2021.
7:51We are five years in and I was still in corporate America doing my corporate sales and like, you know, in medical and everything like that. And dude, I was miserable. You know, like I loved corporate America because it gave me the ability to talk to different people and, and relate to so many different people and walks of life. So I owe everything to corporate America, but it got to a point where I was like, dude, I'm fucking miserable. I cannot do this anymore. And then I took a gamble. And every time I took a gamble, you go backwards, man. And, you know, I have three kids and a wife. And at one point at the end of 2024, my wife was looking at me and she goes, dude, what are we going to do?
8:29I'm like, going to figure it out. You got to pull an arrow back before you can shoot it. Exactly. And then, so, you know, when you live in this, I don't want to say, I mean, you know, you got to have faith in what you're doing and you got to understand that. And to your point, when you said you didn't know how much it costs, you didn't know how much money they were making. It was just a yes for you. It didn't matter because you were going to do whatever you needed to do to make it. Yeah. 100%. You know, and I think that's what's, I think that's the important part of the story so far. Yeah. Yeah.
8:59So eventually paid off all the guys. started making money in 2020, January of 2020. We all know what happened in March of 2020. Oh, boy, let's watch that one, dude. So made money January, February, March. Closed down March 16th, the day before, which is coming up. Yeah. The day before St. Patrick's Day. And then didn't take another paycheck the rest of the year. So it's like. And now I don't have another job. Yeah, it's like two steps forward, right? And then you're taking a large step back. I mean, there's, there's so many points in this story where most people would have said, I'm done. I quit.
9:35And, and, and it's okay to think like, Hey, this probably isn't going to happen. I should probably look elsewhere and do X, Y, Z. Yeah. But it's funny when those moments happen, it's almost instantaneously something else pops and you're like, hold on, I got this. I almost quit 17 times. And that's probably an understatement in 2020. and every time started with my dad the first conversation i had with him um he's like all right i understand things are bad he's like you know no matter what happens at this point if you put your whole heart and soul in this i know that you love this this is what you want to do the rest of your life um if i need to we'll take loans we'll do whatever you need to but you can't quit today we'll quit tomorrow i like that okay because that right there like it was a godsend dude it was a godsend i want the audience to really pick up on this because you know and my lot has something too it's called you know the the power of one more yep just one more day one more day one more decision yep i'll quit tomorrow yeah and then tomorrow comes you ain't quitting yeah you know and and a lot of people you know puff their chest upset i've never wanted to quit i've had faith in myself i'm like you're a liar and you ain't never built anything you never built anything of any significance because like dude this show is thriving and there's still days where I'm like, what am I doing sometimes?
10:54You know, and I think that's natural to have those feelings in those moments of weaknesses. But what are you doing in those moments? Right. Think of how many kids would not be impacted if you did quit the next day. Yeah. As of right now, we've already, uh, we've already helped over 60 kids. Um, we're fast forwarding a little bit, but yeah, we helped over 60 kids. And the goal is to be over a hundred by the end of this year. Now you may have seen the buzz, but let me give you the inside scoop. Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr., Mark McGuire, all the greats. What do they have in common? They have collectibles, and they're being sold on WhatNot right now.
11:31And it brought me back to my childhood. Knowing that I can get my hands on something cool like that really gives me hope. So if you're selling online or out of a storefront, full-time or as a side hustle, you already know the challenges. You're hoping for people to find your listing or waiting for them to walk in. WhatNot flips that right on its head. On Whatnot, you go live and sell directly to people in real time. They see what you've got, they ask questions, and buy. And they keep coming back. Whatnot is the largest dedicated live shopping platform, whether it's beauty, collectibles, electronics, luxury fashion, or heck, even cookies.
12:05Sellers are building real, thriving businesses. Anyone can sell. Whether your business is big, small, or yet to exist, people selling on Whatnot sell 10 times more than on other major marketplaces. That's because you're not just listing products. You're building real connections with buyers. Search whatnot, W-H-A-T-N-O-T in the app store, download, and you can start selling right away. That's amazing. So for the audience, you know, he has a foundation to where you're helping children, right? It's called Wilson's Fit Features. Wilson's Fit Features. Now it's up to 16 or 17 years old? yeah it's 11 to 17 11 to 17 and these kids are coming to you for what tell the audience exactly what they're coming to you for um break that down but also how it's funded by the community yeah so let me start with how why i called it wilson's fit features because just because it it matters um probably two years ago a client walked in 350 pounds um i remember we were talking and he like golf i like golf so we kind of hit it off and then he went um he went down a rabbit hole of what he did for work he was a public he was the the public defender of um denver and he said something to me that stuck with me and still with me today he's like i traded my health for wealth i worked every day so i can make money and look at me now i'm 65 years old i'm 350 pounds i have this this this this and this wrong with me um now i'm hiring a personal trainer and a nutrition guy to help me.
13:41And that was me. So we golfed together. We hung out. His name was Doug Wilson. About a year goes by. He's down 50 pounds. He's under 300. I have him tracking his food. I have him getting on the in body every month. We're working out twice a week. We're golfing once a week. He dies in his sleep. He was supposed to be there at 9am. His wife calls me literally at 9am crying. She works out of the gym as well. She's in our classes though. She called me crying. She's like, hey, Doug passed last night in his sleep. Oh my God, dude. So I rushed over there, hung out with her for a while till the ambulance got there because I was there before the ambulance.
14:19That's heavy. Yeah. So there's a couple of things that he's left with me and that was the trading his health for wealth and all these things. And he worked as a public defender because he wanted to give back to people who needed help but didn't have the funding. When he died, him and his wife Doyle, So she's the co-founder of the foundation with me. She was telling me, she's like, hey, he has a few friends and colleagues out in Denver that want to donate to a nonprofit in the area in his name. Do you know of any? And I was like, I don't know of any per se. And the ones that I do know of take the admins, take a hundred thousand dollar a year salary.
15:03Don't get me wrong. I know it's hard to run a business. And a nonprofit is a business. In a sense. Right. So it's difficult. I get that. But I told her, I was like, I've always wanted to do something for the community that raised me. Bonita Springs, Naples, Stero. I grew up in these towns before 90 percent of people that are here. Yeah. I wasn't here. Yeah, exactly. When the streets were real small, when there was cow fields everywhere, I was like, I want to get back to the community that raised me and created who I am, who created Dionic. so I've always wanted to do this and the goal is to take as little admin expenses as we can and to this day I built the website so I had to pay for the domain name and a server to host it and QuickBooks it's the only money that's gone towards admin everything else has gone towards the kids every penny has gone towards kids memberships so they can work out for free right now it's at my gym eventually the goal this year is to bring one down in Naples.
16:03I've already talked to a gym in Naples that wants to do the program as well because they've seen it and they're like, dude, I want this. The goal is to raise enough money to fill the program at my gym and then go to Naples and then Estero, Four Myers, so on and so forth. What I found was in 2020, all I could hear about was schools were taking PE out of classes or PE out of schools or diminishing it, making it to where you didn't have to take it. There's no test in PE. I remember when I was in PE in 8th grade, you had to run under an 8 minute mile. Or you didn't pass. You got an F. It was either pass or fail.
16:38That was it. We had super laps. We had mile days. You had to do push-ups, sit-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups. The sit and reach. All the tests, man. Yeah, the sit and reach. All the tests, man. Now they don't have any of that. None. No, I don't go to school very much anymore. No, they don't have it. PE's a joke now. I read a stat the other day. I don't know if it's true, so you can fact check it or not. Um, the average kid under 18 has, is fatter than the average American pig. Oh my God. The fat, the average American pig is 20 % body fat. The ones that we slaughter and use for meat and, uh, whatever pork chops and whatnot.
17:16Um, the average American kid under 18 is like 24 % body fat. Hey guys, we're gonna take a quick break and we're going to slide into our recovery segment brought to you by Therabody. What an amazing technology that Therabody has. And it was founded on a really cool story by Dr. Jason Wursland. It was founded on pain. He got into an accident and had this extreme pain in his arm and found that percussive therapy really helped. So he created the very first version of the Theragun with a Makita drill, just to pilot and test to see if his pain could be relieved by percussive therapy overall. And surely it was.
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19:24I bring that in my gym bag every day to the gym. And when I'm warming up, I use it to warm up. I put it on my arms. Whatever body part I'm using that day, I activate those muscles. And what I find is I'm able to move my body a lot quicker. And I'm a lot stronger on those days that I do actually bring it and utilize it. I just think it's a great way to understand your body and the connection between your strength and your muscles and being warm and being able to perform. Because it's one thing to go work out, but it's another thing to perform while you're doing it. And the Theragun Pro Plus helps me do that.
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23:45So, so that's scary. It is scary, but it's not surprising. Yeah. When we're old, they're going to be running that world. I know. And it's not surprising though, when you look at how our food, this is a tough one, man. And, you know, because like you look at how people eat so much at a convenience and as a parent, that is so hard because for instance, get done here. I'm going to get stuck for an hour in traffic to get back to the sterile. Right. It's just the way it is, man. Down Pine Ridge and non 75. I'm sorry. I have time for three or four phone calls. Yeah. You know what I mean? 30 minute phone calls.
24:2030 minute. You got no shit. Right. And so you look at that and it's like, well, do I stop at the store and get meat and do all the things that I'm absolutely exhausted right now and I don't want to do? Or do I just order something at a convenience? And I think a lot of people here in America are so busy. They're ordering at a convenience. The problem is we don't know what's in the food. And the other problem is, is everything that we fill the cabinets with are in a box. And we try very hard. I'll buy some little things for the kids and then the pantry, but most of it, like you're hungry. Hey, there's protein yogurt, protein yogurt.
24:57There's watermelon. There's, there's, uh, I love that. You know, there's those little fricking halos and then there's apples. You can eat that. Yeah. Please. That's human food. That's real food, man. But, but it's not surprising the statistic because of what we're feeding our youth. I mean, we are filling them up with sugar, sugar, um, filling them up with fake food. Wondering why a kid, why most boys are being diagnosed with ADHD is because they start their morning with a frosted flakes and, and skim milk or fair life milk that has a dextrose in it, which is a different sugar that isn't a sugar.
25:36Um, and they're loaded with, you know, 30 grams of sugar before 8am and then go sit them, bring them inside, put them under these lights and then sit them at a table for four hours and be like, Hey, sit still. Yeah. He's like, what? Yeah. How am I going to sit still? Yeah. What do you mean? Yeah. I'm about to run a mile and be fine. It's so funny. Cause like every time, like my, my little one, she's seven, I have a seven, nine and a 12. So my seven to nine are girls and my boys, 12. Every time my little one goes to the store with me, daddy, can we get cereal? Nope. Good for you. But dad, but, but we're just once like, no, good for you.
26:07No. Because like the bottom line is if I give that to you first thing in the morning, my kids eat the same thing every morning, you know, it's, it's eggs. Love it. And you know, sometimes I'll give them like a half a bagel with some cream cheese, It just depends. Yeah. But we, I do my best to give them a nutritious breakfast before they leave. And my son's starting to watch me and goes, Hey dad, can you cut up some steak in my eggs? Yeah. So I mean like, dude, that's what I do every single morning. I have steak and eggs, you know, protein shake at four 30 in the morning, steak and eggs. Right.
26:39And then another protein shake after my, you know, after my workout. out and by time you know by the time i hit noon i'm usually like 130 to 140 grams of protein in love it love it you know so i know i like dude i'm gonna get to 200 easily i'm 200 every day every single day like without fail yeah like without fail but that statistic is alarming and what it's causing is like you said the adhd kids get depressed and what are they what's the first thing they're gonna freaking do they're gonna go to that damn phone or that ipad and numb out and get dopamine responses from likes and how many reposts they get and how many likes they get.
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27:17And they're sitting there like this all day with 40 grams of sugar in them. And then wondering why they're all jittery and like, Oh, I can't concentrate. Well, you can't concentrate because you have so much sugar in your body. And dude, it's hard because I understand the social media game. Like I'm, I'm in it. Like that's how I make my money. Right. Well, the show is, but you know, we get paid on content and things like that. And you want your content to go to do well and to, to grow some legs and run a little bit, but I know what it does to me when something doesn't go off. Right. Or I'm searching for man, like, why isn't this hitting?
27:50I know this is a good post. Yeah. Think about what that 12 year old is doing, comparing themselves to somebody else, because we have a horrible, horrible ideology on social media of what healthy really is or what the right way to be or how to make money. Like in some of these kids don't have father figures don't have parental guidance at all and they're letting the internet raise them yeah yeah you know it's scary it's very scary dude to touch on something you were saying earlier about mental health and working out it's like i've seen more i've heard more conversations from parents about the kids doing better in school their grades are getting better and they're more they're so excited to wake up on mondays and wednesdays because that's when we do the program right now because they know they get to come and go work out at Mondays and Wednesdays with me and the other coaches.
28:44Why do you think the grades are getting better? Confidence. They're, they're becoming, I mean, like, I don't remember what it's like to be 11. I'm sure you don't either, but at 11, like now that I'm watching them, it's like they're clumsy. They are learning how to walk and they've never done a lunge before. They don't know what a pushup is barely. Um, but to see him go from not knowing what a pushup is to doing one three weeks later because they're kids, they're going to get strong super quick. Oh yeah. All of a sudden like, wow, I can do this. When you walk in my gym, it's 5 ,000 square feet.
29:15We have two floors upstairs, downstairs. The ceilings are like 35, 40 feet in the air. So when an 11 year old walks in, they're like, this is massive. Oh my God. So they're super quiet at first. Every single one of them. But man, to watch them go from quiet to, hey man, we just, give me a second. I got to explain this to the whole class because like Donnie, Donnie, did I tell you that? I caught four games yesterday pitching and yeah. That's amazing. dude yeah they just want to tell me things and i just i love it um you know but when you have 16 kids in a class and you got to keep them all in track and keep moving um sometimes it just you know it's a little much but now you may have seen the buzz but let me give you the inside scoop babe ruth barry bonds king griffey jr mark mcguire all the greats what they have in common they have collectibles and they're being sold on whatnot right now and it brought me back to my childhood.
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31:41And when you can do that, especially for these young kids that have so much being thrown at them at a young age that we didn't have. We didn't. We do. We don't know what it's like to grow up in this era. Like I, I, I don't, I don't envy my children at all. Yeah. But the one I'll say is the moment you start doing hard things every day in the gym, it's all connected because the moment you want to take the easy road and not do your homework or not study for your test, you remember what coach Donnie said about these hard movements and that life is not going to be easy. It's going to be freaking hard, but if you dive into it and you seek the hard thing, then you're going to be successful in so many different areas.
32:22So I think in my opinion, when a child or an adult is working hard on themselves whether it's spiritually physically emotionally mentally emotionally all the above dude fitness is such a massive component of that because that is the ultimate act of discipline you can't fake it and of self-respect yeah and you can't fake it yeah you you can't fake it you can't buy it you can't no you you can sit there and say, I'm eating right. I'm not cheating, but your body's going to tell me what blood work's going to tell you different. Everything. Deca scan or in body scan is going to tell you different. Your body fat's going to tell you different.
33:01Your doctor's going to tell you different. Yeah, man. I think fitness is a staple for, it should be a staple for everybody. Yeah, dude. And I love what you're doing with the kids because there's a lot of really good athletes in the area that can't afford training or nutrition advice in the, in the service that you're bringing them helps them get better at their sport but i can't i don't want to underlook and undervalue that non-athlete yeah that's coming we have more non-athletes than i can imagine dude that's coming in there anxious withdrawn depressed scared slightly overweight or socially overweight socially awkward very little confidence quiet as can be but watching them flourish man has been And it's exacerbated my want to have kids.
33:48I bet, dude. I didn't want them three years ago. I was like, no, I'm good. I don't need kids. I was like, you know, if I don't have them, great. If I do, whatever. But man, watching these kids go from day one to, you know, four weeks in to eight weeks in. You know, we're at almost a year and a half right now. And some of the kids are still with us that started with us. One of them is a swimmer at Canterbury out in Naples. And then she started track. She started volleyball. She didn't even want to swim, but her mom made her do something. So you have to choose a sport. She chose that. She went to her mom was like, Hey, I want to try a track.
34:23Now she's, I think she was going to regionals for high jump. That's bad-ass. She shows me her video. She comes in. She's like, look, look, look, look, look. One dad the other day came in and was damn near in tears. This is a good story. Yeah. Tell us this story here. So his daughter came in. She was, you know, slightly overweight, never worked out ever in life, never played any sports. was getting picked on at school. Didn't really, um, have very many friends from what I was told. Um, confidence level, super low started with us. She's been with us now probably five or six months. Um, her grades were kind of lacking.
34:59He's like, he was like season bees. I had to like struggle to get her to focus, to get a B. Um, she started with us. She met a couple of the older kids. Um, they go to different schools, but they exchange numbers. They exchanged Instagrams and tick tocks and everything else that they exchange. Um, so it became friends and then they would meet every Monday, Wednesday at six 30 at Ionic and they would talk about whatever they would. Um, it helped her. He was, he was in tears telling me, he's like, this program has done more than just change her body. It's changed her mentally, changed her physically.
35:31He's like on Mondays and Wednesdays, she wakes up excited because she gets to go to the Ionic and go work out. Um, he's at her grades are A's and B's now. He's like a C doesn't even come across. and then this is this about January to now. So it's a new semester, I guess, for her. And he's like, this is the best semester she's had since she was a kid, like a younger kid. And he's like, her confidence level is crazy. She's excited. She wants to eat better because so we do a nutrition talk. It's about five minutes every day. I have 30 different points. So it's every 30 classes they start to repeat.
36:05And it's basic stuff like what's protein? What's, you know, we're striving for like what we talked about last night is like we're striving for progress, not perfection. You don't want to eat to perfection because then eventually, like if your friends are going out and they're having Chick-fil-A, have Chick-fil-A. Yeah. You know, it's not the best choice, but don't limit yourself because then you're going to resent it and you're going to hate the process. But then, you know, the next day, make sure you eat all plants and animals. And we, you know, focus on if it has a table of contents on it, it's not human food.
36:35if it grows if it swims if it flies if it walks it's human food you know it's so funny dude because that's biblical yeah literally you know christ said i'm putting the plants and the animals here for you to eat and if you my buddy matthew hedden he uh he has an online coaching business and it exploded when he changed his handle to the God food guy. That's all he talks about is eating God food. Yeah. That's, I mean, I mean, that's really it. And when you look at that and look, and I look at every single time that I've done really well in my fitness, I'm not eating a lot of the garbage, garbage.
37:19I'm only eating, you know, if it's, if it's carbs, it's fruit, you know, if it's protein, I ate a lot of fruit in the morning, dude, I don't eat it towards the back half the day. Um, but you know, it's so funny because I really focus on like a modified carnivore diet. Like I'll have fruit in the morning. Sometimes I'll have my based is what I call it. Yes. Yes. Just base. Like if it's meat, I'm eating it. I don't give a 200 grams of protein. I mean, you're not going to want to eat much else anyway. No, you're not. I mean, that's the, that's the really thing. If you really think about it, right.
37:49I mean, I'll have my, you know, I'll have my intact grass fed protein because that's a way I can get two shakes a day. And that's 120 grams of protein. I can get another hundred and 120 grams through meat, beef and steak and chicken and fish. I'm not a big chicken guy, man. I love, I ate so much of it when I was like in college cause it was cheap that I'm with you. I don't, I buy chicken, cook it. But if you, if you open up my freezer, it's venison, it's a bison, it's steaks and fish. So good, dude. But it's super important, right? Like every time I've been on a roll, it's because I'm eating what has grown here or what's walking here or flying.
38:2980 % of how you look is what you put in your mouth. It's not rocket science. It's not easy, though. I mean, I'll give people that. It's not easy. Like you said, if you stop anywhere, where are you going to go that's going to give you plants and animals only? That's not going to be$50 a meal. Dude, good luck. You got to pay extra for real food. It's crazy. Isn't it crazy? It's mind-blowing. No other countries like that. Something. So I don't remember what I was listening to or what I heard, but it's like it went, it went to the, it went down the rabbit hole of, if you look at gazelles, all gazelles run the same speed because the slow ones die because they get eaten.
39:04So they all run about the same speed and they're all very fit or whatever a gazelle is. All lions are very stealthy. The ones that aren't don't eat. So they die off or they're strong so they can fight or whatever. Right. But if you look at the human race, we have people that can run a mile. That guy ran it in, what, 358 a month ago? I don't know his name. A month ago? Oh, really? Three minutes and 58 seconds. That's all it asked. There's another guy who did two miles in the same pace. Now, I'm not saying everybody should be able to run that fast. That is a gift. Yeah, for sure. But you should be able to run a full mile without stopping.
39:40Oh, 100%. I mean, you could see a man at 45 years old that's 350 pounds. You can see a man at 45 that's 180 pounds. So the same height, one's got 10 % body fat, one has 45 % body fat. You won't see that in any other species. It's interesting, isn't it? Because of what we eat. Lions eat meat. Hippos eat plants. Did you know that? Yeah. I was like, wait, did you know that? I did know that, but it's different, right? You know it, you forget you know it. I'm like, yeah, you're right. But they don't eat Froot Loops. No, no. well i mean look at you know the gladiators yeah look at the cavemen what do they eat yeah plants and animals plants and animals dude that's it yeah you know nuts you know but i mean the the majority of it is like this baseline theory of this is what we're going to eat because this is what we have and what we have now is genetically engineered food we have all these different things that are just poisoning us and let's not mention i mean i mean i am going to mention it but like cancer.
40:41Yeah. Well, it's based off sugar. Guess what? Everything's, everything has dextrose, fructose, sucralose, all the losses that aren't sugars, but are treated like sugars in our body. They say Alzheimer's too is like, they call it, they're calling it type three diabetes. Really? It's sugar in the brain. Interesting. Yeah. As they always say, I've been seeing like, there's this clip that keeps going around Instagram right now. If I had cancer, what would I do? And he said, carnivore. So the first thing I do is I'd starve myself of sugar because the cancer cell feeds off sugar. If it doesn't have sugar, it can't, it can't grow.
41:15It can't grow. I mean, I mean, it's interesting to me. Right. And I think there's also a lot of people that are super healthy that have taken care of themselves and still get that shitty diagnosis, man. It's just, so the, the, the bad luck of the draw, man. Yeah. And I'm not saying that if you go carnivore, you're going to kick cancer. I'm going to put a disclaimer out there. I don't want anyone to think that you could just kick cancer just because you ate carnivore that's not what i'm saying um but you can limit your ability because they say everybody has cancerous cells there's just a mutated cell in your body that feeds off sugar when it feeds off sugar long enough it can turn cancerous it's scary dude can become what it is it's scary because there's times where i'll go on a sugar bench i'm not gonna lie i still do it right ice cream bro all the time oh dude i think the other night the other night and this wife i'm so mad at you for this she's like i want Krispy Kreme donuts.
42:05And I'm like, well, I'm not going to pay for delivery for three or six donuts. You could pay$45 for six donuts. Yeah. Let's get the whole dozen. You know, we'll, we'll spoil the kids, you know, one morning with a treat or, you know, after dinner. Um, I think I had five donuts at night. Yeah. I mean, maybe six. I'm a glutton. So I have one and it's delicious. I'm going to go for that response again. I'm going to keep going and I'm not even hungry. Like it's a mouth pleasure. It's like, okay, I'm eating this. This is so disgusting, but like literally I woke up the next day and I was just so upset.
42:38And you're probably lethargic. Oh dude, my body hurt, tired, inflamed everything. My workout sucked yesterday. It was just not the best workout. Right. But you know, I think it's important to talk about these things because a lot of people think that you can never touch these things again. You can never, you know, I might not have another suite for three months. I don't know. I mean, you know, it's not something that really controls my life anymore but when i have it it's nice oh i'm like an addict dude i'm like i'm with you i'm fucking binge dude it's disgusting i gotta buy if i buy ice cream and i bring it home lately i've only been buying it out eating it and done yeah but i buy a pint only now because i used to buy the half gallon yeah of course that half gallon lasts me three days because i am just in there i don't even use a bowl i'm just eating out of it i mean dude you So I'm human just like everybody else, just like you are, man.
43:32You get that dopamine response of that good sugar in your mouth, man. You're like, ooh, I want more of that. Especially with the fresh donuts, dude. It's like, oh my God. Fresh hot donuts? Fresh hot donuts. Like, I'm just, I'm destroying these sons of bitches. Have you tried Trackside and Bonita? I've heard of it. Is that the one like right off the exit? Yeah, it's right off Bonita Beach Road. It's at 041 and 41. It's called Trackside Donuts because the race, the dog track used to be behind it. Oh my God. I feel like that again. Oh my God. I've heard about them. Don't do it. Don't do it? Don't do it.
43:57another one airport donuts in naples okay they they brought them here i brought them to the studio one day and apparently it's tallow and it's healthier ingredients yeah but um i had one and dude i had the maple bacon i was like i ate i just fucking scarfed it down they're like how was that i'm like it was really good like oh it's a day old i'm like oh whatever i don't give a shit it's a fucking donut i'm gonna eat it it's not gonna go bad yeah it's not gonna go bad i'm gonna eat it here for a month and still be fine seriously it's fine it's enough preservatives in that day. But dude, like, I just think that, you know, and you know, back in the day though, when I'd have something like that, you know, I would shame myself and then the next meal would be off plan again.
44:35What I really learned in this journey is to, if I have something like I did that night, you just have to hop back on the next day. So we talked about last night with the kids, it's not over strive for progress, not perfection. Cause perfection is going to get you to that battle of, Oh, well I did it yesterday. So maybe I'll just start Monday or I'll get back into the gym Monday or I'll start eating again, healthy Monday. Well, it's, it's Thursday. You have Friday, Saturday, Sunday. That's half a week. You know what I mean? You're going to waste a whole week because yesterday you had donuts. Like, come on, man, get back on today.
45:06Let's, let's make the change today. And you'd be surprised like, and people would be so surprised that even on a night where you have six donuts, if you're moving your body five, six days a week and the bulk of your diet comes from real food, you're not going to gain an ounce. You're going to feel like shit the next day. And you're going to sleep. Cheeks are going to be out to here. Your eyes are going to be heavy. I woke up in the middle of the night sweating. I was just full on drenched in my bed. I'm like, what the hell? I'm laughing at you. I'm laughing with you because I've been in the same boat.
45:36You can laugh at me all you want, man. I was just like, I had to get up in the middle of the night and go to the couch because I was just drenched, bro. But like, you know, those moments, you just kind of got to look at it and just kind of laugh like, Hey, I'm not shooting for perfection. I'm still human, but I think too many kids and too many adults, just people in general right now think that they have to be perfect. And that causes a ton of issues, man. One thing I have, I have helped with the kids as well is sending an email to the parents. Cause now I have the parents on my app to where they can reserve the kids spot in the class.
46:10Um, we started tracking their attendance and we started tracking their weights, um, next week and the following week, We're going to test the bench press and all these things. But so I have the parents emails now. So now I can send them emails and say, hey, today we talked about this. You can expand on it if you want with them. Here's some things you could talk to them about. Or here's some things that you could do to help. Don't buy the zebra cakes for them. When they ask, get a thing, get a thing of cuties. I mean, those are wonderful substitute because it's going to give you that's going to give the kid the sugar that they're looking for or want.
46:46And it's a God-given plant. Yeah, it's a natural sugar. Yeah. You're fine. Yeah. I don't know how many people that have gained a ton of weight and are fat because they eat fruit. I don't think anybody ever. Ever. So this morning I had an apple. I had a handful of raspberries, a handful of blueberries, two cuties, a banana, and a mango. That's probably your whole carbs for the whole day though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'll have a little rice in my second meal. I create like these little lunch bowls, I call them, with venison, ground beef, rice, green peas, red, yellow, green pepper, garlic, shaved carrots.
47:20Oh, nice. Mix it all together. And it makes like seven meals. Oh, wow. So I use two pounds of beef, a cup of rice, whatever. So I get a little bit of rice there, too. But the rest of the day, like tonight, I'm having steak for dinner. And I have steak and that's it. I won't have any carbs with it, no potatoes, no nothing. Because at the end of the day, you don't need any carbs anyway. Carbs are like your energy. Right? So everything we eat is turned to glucose, everything, protein, carbs, fat, everything. That's how your body uses it. That's how we create ATP, which is our energy, all that stuff.
47:51If you're putting sugar, aka carbs, into your body that's already going to be created into more sugar for it to be processed through the body, you're giving yourself a load of energy right before bed. So now while you're sleeping, your cortisol is going up. So now you're, you're, if you wear whoop or, uh, what's the ring that people wear, the aura ring that people wear, um, your sleep is now, instead of an 88, it's going to be like a 78, which is still good, but it's because all the carbs you had right before bed carbs are your energy source. You're going to use them throughout the day. That's why I eat all the fruit in the morning.
48:22And then a little bit of rice in my lunch bowl that I eat at 11. And then for the rest of the day, it's all protein. See, I love that approach because for me, I think everybody's body is different. Of course. You know, and, and I operate really well on a carnivore based diet. I have more energy. I don't wake up inflamed. I don't wake up in pain, but the moment, like if I have like an off plan meal, right. Cause I'll still do it. Yeah. Like I had buffalo chips, chicken wings last night. I don't know if you know what buffalo chips is, but it's the best chicken wings. Yeah. Okay. Best chicken wings in all of the land.
48:55Yeah. I had, I had a club sandwich. I don't ever eat bread anymore, but I, but the bread I had was sourdough, which is probably that and rice probably the two best you can do. Yeah. But I feel it. Like I can feel my body really hot right now. And because it's sitting there saying, wait a second, what did you just do? Like, and I just feel it working overtime to, to burn that off or to kind of figure out what the hell's going on. But when you say you don't need carbs, there's a lot of people that say, you know, well, you You definitely have to have carbs, especially if you're lifting. I don't know if I agree with them, dude.
49:29I think a little bit, you know, so you can, you know, so your muscles can be full and shuttle some glycogen if you're in a build. But if you're trying to lose weight, you're trying to cut fat and just be lean. Spoiler alert, you don't need them. You don't need a lot of them. You don't need a lot of them. If you have fruit in the morning, dude, you're going to be just fine. There's four essential proteins, meaning you'll die if you go long enough without eating them. I forget them. I'm not going to try and name them. There's two essential fats. There are zero essential carbohydrates. There's three macros, carbs, fats, and protein.
50:01There's zero essential carbohydrates. You can go the rest of your life without eating them. There are some people that say you need 150 grams of carbohydrates just so your brain can function every day. So your brain is made up of cholesterol. Okay. Cholesterol. When doctors tell you you have high cholesterol, what do they normally say it's from? Eating a lot of meat. Eating a lot of red meat. Your brain is made of cholesterol. your myelin sheath, which is around your spinal cord, your spinal cord, all of your synapses are all made of cholesterol. Another thing, sunlight. They say sunlight is bad for you.
50:33There's only one vitamin your body can make. You know what it is, right? Vitamin D. It's the only one. Obviously very important. It's the only one that your body makes. You do it with cholesterol and sunlight. If you don't have those, you can't make it. so low vitamin d is you're probably either a lot of people are on statins because they're at 206 they're just above average or where they want you to be so like hey we're gonna put you on a statin and get you below it not most people don't know that the liver makes 70 percent of your cholesterol so really they can only lower the 30 percent that you're eating by this statin so yes it does help and in some people are way above that and because they eat a bunch of fried food or a bunch of seed oils or whatever else.
51:18But the statin game is what makes me nervous for adults because it's lowering your cholesterol. We're not outside in the sun because of skin cancer. So now we have low vitamin D. We have low cholesterol. Our brains are fogged because we're not taking enough salt. Salt holds onto water, gets it into your cells, keeps you hydrated. People think drinking a gallon of water is wonderful for you. But if you're peeing clear, you're peeing out all your calcium, phosphorus, sodium, all that stuff, which is all essential stuff that you need. I just think so many people are just listening to the wrong people that are giving books that are like, hey, this is what you should do.
51:57I mean, look, I probably drink over a gallon of water a day, but I also have electrolytes mixed in there and a lot of Coke Zero. Yeah. Good for you. I fucking got to lie. I love Coke Zero. I'm on that game, man. Okay. I'm on the train. I used to be on energy drinks. Oh, me too. I don't touch them. Probably two years ago in July. I remember I went out to Washington and I was like, you know what? This is going to be my last one. It wasn't. I've had a couple since then, but I used to drink one a day. I used to drink energy drink or energy drink and then a pre-workout before the workout. So both of those, I mean, they're both loaded with sucralose and fruit juice and dextrose.
52:33You're destroying your adrenal glands, dude. Like, fuck. Now I don't have really any of them. I don't have pre-workout ever. I don't even drink protein powder anymore. No, really? Yeah, I don't drink any. Damn. I eat 200 grams of protein every day. Yeah, dude. So I've been 165, 170 pounds for the last 8 to 10 years. I just competed at the World Championships for Olympic weightlifting. That's badass. I got fifth. Boy, congrats, dude. One of my clients got first. Shout out to Marcella. Congratulations, Marcella. Now, you may have seen the buzz, but let me give you the inside scoop. Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds.
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53:42Whatnot is the largest dedicated live shopping platform, whether it's beauty, collectibles, electronics, luxury fashion, or heck, even cookies. Sellers are building real thriving businesses. Anyone can sell, whether your business is big, small, or yet to exist. People selling on Whatnot sell 10 times more than on other major marketplaces. That's because you're not just listing products. You're building real connections with buyers. search whatnot w h a t n o t in the app store download and you can start selling right away and it's all based off of spending time in the sun working out on a regular basis i don't work out every day people are like oh you own a gym you must work out every day when i was broke and making no money at the gym i went two years without working out and i own the gym wow so i tell people all the time it's like like strive for progress not perfection just show up today you don't have to do five days this week if it's wednesday you don't have to wait till monday to start go hit a workout today hit another one on friday at least you got two this week it's better than zero like i mean how many people in america are i can honestly say they work out consistently two days a week probably very little people do yeah i would i don't know the number i would hate to see that i don't want to know the number yeah i bet it's scary but i mean there's still weeks where like you know i'm in the gym pretty consistently but if i only get three or four days in that week, I go, damn, that was a down week.
55:10But then I think like, wait a second, man. Okay. My down weeks used to be zero. And if I'm moving my body three to four days a week on an off week where I'm just buried in my business and I can't really function. Yeah. Dude, it's things happen, man. Yeah, dude. And here's the other thing too, man. You got to listen to your body. I recently, I've never done a deload week. Never. I know what it was. And I was starting to get really sick. I did get flu A. Okay. But, but that was in, I don't know, like end of January. But what I noticed is like, I wasn't getting any stronger anymore. And like my shoulders were burning.
55:52I'm old now. I'm old. I'm old, right? No, but you could, you can still gain muscle and still get stronger even in their eighties. Yeah. My grandmother, dude, she's 83 years old. I don't, I don't, let me finish this thought. I'm going to go back to that because I have ADHD and I'll forget i think i've already forgotten but no so i did a deload week right where i just took 60 percent of my normal weight i just did three sets of 10 and it was the most boring week i've ever had in the gym like dude i feel like such a loser i'm not doing anything everyone's looking at me like what am i doing with this 135 pounds why is sean like you know doing dumbbell bench with 45s today like what the fuck and i'm gonna tell you though last week was my first week back on like felt wonderful hulk felt wonderful i don't have any more joint pain my shoulders don't hurt anymore i'm getting stronger again so i think it's important to sometimes take a step backwards you know just for progress yep not perfection yep you know um where did you go when you said the um you can get you can build muscle at 80 you know what you know drives me crazy is when people say, well, you know, I'm 40 now, I can't build muscle or, you know, I'm at 40.
57:05I'm, I'm literally going to get so much hate for this and ladies, I'm sorry. But when they hit premenopause and they hit menopause, they're like, that's their, that's their pass. Like, this is just the way my body is right now. And what they have to understand is they're, they're getting stuck in this Please find out here, whistler. We can't do it. Okay. this issue is different. And then you don't wanna find out any other машins. Exactly. Ideology where they have to do all this cardio. I have to do all this cardio and that's not going to build them. That's not going to get them lean. And what women and older men need to realize is you have to lift heavy shit.
57:36Yeah. You have to really. Good for your bones. Good for your joints. It's the fountain of youth, bro. Yeah. You can still get strong. You can look better when you're 50 than you did when you were 25, 30. Yep. I mean. You just got to work. You just got to work. Like you said, you got to do things hard. Dude, I'm 47. People don't want to do hard things. I'm 47. I look better than I did when I was 30. Oh, man. Love that. And I'm just getting started. I'm like a year in. Yeah. Like, I'm focused on this. I love going to the gym now because I know what it did for my mentality. I know what it did for my show and my business.
58:10So for me, like, that is enough. The aesthetic thing, cool. Yeah, that's great. But you know what else is really cool? Because when you have kids and they're old enough and they see you go through a transformation, the amount of respect that they have for you is wild. It is the craziest shit ever. Like there's times now, if I decide like last night we did burgers and I had a bun, but I had like a keto bun. Yeah. It wasn't even like a full on like normal bun, but my kids go, you're having carbs. You're going to have bread. I'm like, dude, I love that, man. I love that. And I don't want them to have any programs thinking they can't eat that stuff.
58:48Of course. What I want them to understand is, is balance. But when your kids see you go through something and completely turn your life around, that is the most empowering way to lead your family than anything. The kids that do best in my Wilson's Fit Futures program, their parents work out the hour right after them. So the kids go from 3.30 to 4.30. Wow. And the parents do 4.30 to 5.30. And then I have another adult, 5.30 to 6.30. And then I have another Wilson's 6.30 to 7.30. So you can do either 3.30 or you can do 6.30. That's badass. So either the parents work out right before them and then they work out or, uh, they work out and then the parents work out and they hang out in the lounge and in the lounge, like, like it's 5 ,000 square feet.
59:30It's not that big. Yeah. Um, you can see them. And then they're like, dad, I beat you. I was counting your reps. I beat you today. That's a healthy competition, man. Oh dude, it's, it's, and it's even daughters to dads. It's not just boys to dads or, or, or to moms. Like we have both moms and dads that work out at the gym with their kids that do it, that are in the program as well. which is another plus of having the program is that I got a couple parents to sign up as well. I'm like you're going to be here you might as well just have a class. Just try a couple and if you like it great if not you don't ever have to sign up.
1:00:01Come on. You do it too. If you do it you're going to have something to bond with Jason or your kid or Ava or whoever it may be. It's like you have now a different bond with them that they'll never forget. They'll remember doing workouts with you for the rest of their lives. And those, those lessons are caught. Right. And, you know, there's a lot of things, you know, people talking about how you truly lead your children, lead your children by doing and showing them the right ways, not preaching it to them. Just like, this is how I live my life. And what's crazy to me is my, my middle, my middle child, you know, I have two daughters, I have a seven, a nine and a 12 year old son and my nine year old, she does gymnastics.
1:00:44And I asked her one day, I'm like, Hey, what, um, what do you need to do to level up your class. Like, oh, I got to do like a pullover on the bar. I'm like, okay. Like what, what, how do you, how do you get better at that? Like, what did your teacher say? She goes, I'm not sure. Let me ask. I'm like, okay, cool. So she asks, right. And she goes, she told me to start doing pushups. I'm like, get stronger. Right. And last night I'm sitting there and this has happened a couple of different times. She'll come up to me and go, daddy, can you, can you watch me do my pushups? And she'll, she's, she's not set down everything.
1:01:17Yeah, of course. Let's go. Let's go like she'll get on her knees right because she doesn't she can't do the full form yet so she's nine she's nine yeah and then it's perfect you know i have her do sets of five and i was like hey hold on and then she'll get back i'm like give it another minute yeah talk to me like just talk yeah and and and but you set the example to where the kids are starting to find ways to get better when they're not in the environment i can't wait for that it's the best yeah it's the best you got to get through the sleepless nights and shitty diapers of course there's a lot of things that you don't just wake up with a nine-year-old that wants to do push-ups no i mean you can i mean you know yeah fair you just got to adopt you know you got to adopt but no yeah you know being a parent is one of the most rewarding but stressful things that i think i've ever yeah i've ever had the pleasure of of doing to be honest because something's always happening yeah there's you know something's always happening school sports school friends drama especially with girls dude yeah there's always something my seven-year-old comes up listen to this i'm like oh boy you're we fucking go like i can't i was like i can't but um but no dude i think when when the children start to follow in footsteps and and understand that we do this because we get to and we do this because um it it's a privilege yeah i think a lot of people including myself and and and you know doug wilson you know back in the year talking about him i think that's such a powerful story because he traded his health for his wealth.
1:02:40Yep. And it ended up long-term, you know? I mean, maybe that's the reason why he passed, you know? And that, I started to see that in myself, that I was so focused on building the show, I wasn't taking care of me. I was like, damn, I don't really want to die young. You know, I want to be able to walk my daughters down the aisle. I really, truly want to be functional until I'm 9 ,500 years old. Yeah. And the only way to do that is to build your body. got it got to have muscle you you have to lift things you have to push your uh push what you can and cannot do yeah um meaning on bench press or squatting or leg press it doesn't matter what it is squatting i hate it muscles like you said earlier the organ of longevity man if you want to live to be a hundred or 95 and be able to do everything um you have to have muscle dude it's like how, if I look back, right.
1:03:34And on the times where I was just primarily fat, you know, like it's hard to function on the weekends. It's hard to function when you're doing things with your kids. I assume you're tired all the time, dude, you know, you know, what's really hard is being at fucking farmer's Mike and it's a hundred degrees out and you're picking strawberries when you're fat. That's not fun. That's not fun, dude. But I never know what that feeling is. I told you, it's crazy, but it's like, once you come out on the other side, you have some progress, right? All of a sudden it's not so hot outside. You're not so tired.
1:04:06You just need some water. You're not really hungry. You're just bored. You start to understand certain things that can trigger you, but also be like, okay, no, I can work through this mentally. And that's why I love what you're doing so much with these kids, man. I just, I know we're having an amazing conversation and the audience goes, man, there's, we're talking about a lot of different things, but you know, the, the main thing is the main thing, the, the education you're providing these children. And also because of that, their parents are also working out and getting fit and they're doing things together.
1:04:41When. And creating bonds that they wouldn't have had a year ago. What's the trade-off? Yeah. You're at home talking to your wife and your kids are on an iPad walking around. Like that's not, that's not good. Yeah. Um, so we've, we've talked about the program. We've talked about what it is, but, you know, walk the audience through how it's funded, because I think that's an important topic to cover because there's a lot of local businesses that do listen to the show. And of course, you know, the determined society would want information on how to potentially donate to the cause, because I want, if we're going to donate to something, I want to know it's going somewhere.
1:05:18Yeah. And I want it to be towards progress and everything like that. So how are the local businesses getting involved? Right now, so if you go to wilsonfitfutures.org, I have information on there about how to donate. There's a donate button. You can go donate monthly, yearly, one time. It doesn't matter. $1 ,200 is one kid for an entire year. So awesome. At the bottom of the page, you'll see Flo Grown, Nicoletta and Company, Be Your Gift. top hat roofing there's probably 10 of them on there and to get on the page you have to donate at least 1200 bucks that's one kid for an entire year so cool and at that it's only 100 bucks a kid per month which the gym's not making a lot of money off that like again the purpose of this is to teach the kids to work out to get them moving to teach them nutrition and then eventually the third step is I want to actually rent out a kitchen and start teaching them how to cook.
1:06:17Oh, that's third step. But that's again, there's, I need funding for these steps. Um, but right now, so it's, you go to the page, you can donate there. Um, if you donate$1 ,200, um, or more, you'll get on the website, your logo up on the website. Um, you'll get the letter that you can write off in for your taxes. We are a IRS accredited 501 C3 real deal. Holy field. No, nothing fake about it. I love it. Um, like we talked about earlier, I've literally only taken money out of the account to build the website and to pay for QuickBooks. I do the bookkeeping. I built the website. I update the website on WordPress.
1:06:55I learned that in 2020 when we were all sitting at home. I was like, well, what am I going to do? I went to codeacademy.com and learned how to code. Now, I'm no coder. I'm no programmer by no means necessary. Now, they make it basically, I mean, even with Wix, you can go on and basically it's just dragging. Yeah. If you can figure things out, you can figure it out. my website's not the best CEO, uh, driven website that you can have, but it works. Yeah. It's doing what it needs to. Um, I also run a golf tournament in October. Um, that's where I got most of the funding for last year. And that's pushing through this year.
1:07:29Um, we had 72 people sign up and play. Um, we had 18 different sponsors that were local businesses. And then at the end of the year, we did a, um, a end of year campaign. And that's where we got a couple of different businesses to donate$1 ,200, get their name up on the website. We post it on social media. I shared it with the gym account, my personal account and the Wilson's account, just to get more reach for them. Cause I'm, I'm, if you're doing, if you're willing to help the kids, which I want to do most, I want to be able to give back to you as well. I want you to get some benefit from it.
1:08:05You know, it's, it's, it's crazy. Cause I look at all these different ways that these local businesses are choosing to spend their money. You know, a lot of them, you know donate to the little league field and get the sponsorship and it's on the jersey yep that's cool yeah but like you know it's so important to put it towards something bigger you know and i think the most i think you'd be surprised most companies when you say okay well i'm gonna share it on these different pages so you get more reach they're like cool but they're doing it because they're out of their heart not because of that they don't care about that i I wouldn't care about that.
1:08:40I would want to know that there's a child or children getting the help that I didn't have when I was a kid. Yep. I created a email blast that I sent out to everybody who donated at the end of the year last year of our impact of what we did. And there's stories of that I gave you about the girl earlier that didn't want to play sports but swam because her mom made her do a sport. And now she's in three different sports. That's in there. The amount of money we raised, how many kids are paid for this entire year. And then a goal in there is like what we want to do for next year. I'll show anybody the QuickBooks.
1:09:12I'll show you every line item, every dollar that went everywhere, and then all the money that hasn't gone is still sitting in the bank account for the nonprofit that will go to paying for the kids' memberships for the remainder of the year. So badass. Because I didn't just take a lump sum and just be like, hey, yeah, they're good for the year. No, I want them, because I also make it to where they have to come twice a week for the nonprofit to pay for them. It's only come once a week, so I have like probably 10 kids that can only come right now because it's only two days. They can only come on Wednesdays.
1:09:39They can't do Mondays because of sports or whatever else. The nonprofit doesn't pay for them. See, that's accountability, right? Yeah. These are the parameters. Because I'm setting it up to not just be at my gym. I don't want it to be at my gym. Or I do, but I want it to be at my gym. I want it to be in North Naples. I want it to be in South Naples, Estero, Fort Myers, South Fort Myers, North Fort Myers, Cape Coral. And I mean, the sky's the limit. Oh, absolutely. If the funding is there, I know it's super easy to find kids that will come twice a week at minimum if there's four days a week. Because eventually that's what the goal is to have four days a week at each gym.
1:10:13And if they come at least twice a week, the nonprofit will pay the gym for the kid. And to find parents that want their kids to work out. Because even parents who don't work out realize the benefit of working out. And especially if they bring their kids to work out. Yeah. I mean, the sky's limited. If the funding is there again, I don't want to take a hundred thousand dollar salary from the nonprofit. I want that money to go to the kids. Yeah. I make my money through the gym. I make my own money doing that. That's not being held back because of the nonprofit. The nonprofit is like what I said in the beginning is I don't want to take money from the nonprofit for me to run it.
1:10:53Yeah. I want the nonprofit to pay for kids to go. So impactful, dude. Like more kids we can help, the better is what is my intent. You know, and there's so many different life skills that you're teaching. You know, they're learning how to study better because they're focused, right? They're eating better because they understand the macros. They are lifting, they're understanding movement and how it's medicine for their body. But now if you mix in, you know, cooking classes, you know, because some of these kids that you get, you know, maybe 16 years old, right? They're getting towards that adolescent age where in two years they're gone.
1:11:28Yeah. Like, do you know how to cook? Yeah. And have boiled rice. Yeah. Do you, I mean, like I didn't, you know, I mean, we had the forming grill back then. I have 40 year olds that don't know how to cook. I mean, it's just crazy. You go to their house and there are boxes everywhere because they order in every night for dinner. They eat out at lunch because they're at work. I'm like, oh man, no wonder why you're 40 % body fat. It's hard, man. Like on days like this where I have multiple shows, like I'll just go to Naples brunch. Yeah. And a lot of times I have this like chicken platter and I'll just eat the chicken.
1:11:56You know what I mean? And then go about your day. And go about my day. Yeah. You know, but like if, if, if you're going to go to places and I think this is important for the audience, cause I don't want them to feel like you said, like if the family's eating Chick-fil-A, you know, you can eat Chick-fil-A too, you know, and, and sometimes I'll have what I want there. I'll have the chicken sandwich, but most of the time I'll get the kids and the family what they want. And then I'll go get the, I'll go get the salad with the, with the grilled chicken on it and remove things that I don't want on there.
1:12:25And I'll get the fat free honey mustard and I'll get extra chicken. So I know at least I got, thank you. I got my 40 grams of protein right there. I eat a little bit of the roughage. I'm not a big lettuce guy, but you know, if it's filler, I'll eat it. Yeah. Cause I know it's very low calorie and I'll be full and I won't want to eat anything the rest of the night. You know, I just think that we have to understand that there are options everywhere you go and you just have to be disciplined enough to execute. Now you may have seen the buzz, but let me give you the inside scoop. Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr., Mark McGuire, all the greats.
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1:13:40Sellers are building real, thriving businesses. Anyone can sell. Whether your business is big, small, or yet to exist, people selling on Whatnot sell 10 times more than on other major marketplaces. That's because you're not just listing products. You're building real connections with buyers. Search whatnot. W-H-A-T-N-O-T in the app store. Download and you can start selling right away. People tell me they don't have discipline. I'm like, well, do you show up to your kids' baseball game every week or practice every week? They're like, yeah, of course. It's for my kids. I'm like, well, that's discipline.
1:14:18So you have it. it's there you just have to direct it in a way that you want to direct it you want your kids to go to baseball you are going to make sure that they're there every day or every two days whatever the practices and games are you don't miss those that's discipline as well yeah showing up to the gym is discipline it's the same thing you have it it's funny because like i think a lot of parents and you're going to learn this you will do whatever you need to do for your kids but sometimes you fall by the wayside. You know, like mom, like moms are notorious for this. My wife is a godsend, like women sacrifice more of themselves to make sure that the family's okay.
1:14:56You know, but when I look at this whole thing of, you know, like you're talking about redirecting the discipline, what if you tied it to your kids? Yeah. You know, what if you looked at it as I'm going to go work out because I want more energy for my children. I want to be a better father. I want to be a better mother. I want more peace in my life, but I also want to live longer and be healthier longer so I can watch them fucking grow up, grow up and then have kids and then be able to play with my grandkids. Yeah. Like I want to be a grandparent, dude. Yeah. Nothing scares me more. Cause I look at I'm 47.
1:15:29My youngest is seven. I'm like doing the math here. I'm like, uh, Hey, I'm on the back calf here. I better, I better, I better dial in, you know? And so for me, like my biggest fear is not me dying. My biggest fear is me not being here when my kids need me the most. That's deep. And, and I think that if more parents looked at it like that, then there would be a lot more healthy households. So just do it for your kids, man. Yeah. I mean, what's more powerful than that. I think there's a quote that says like, um, you'll do anything for your kids, but will you eat healthy and work out? I see that.
1:16:11That's a trend going on on Instagram, right? Yeah. I'd say that's where I see it like crazy. It's like, you said you'll do anything for your kids, but will you work out for them? Yeah. It's one hour. That's all it is. I mean, dude, there's days, like if it's an ancillary day and it's just a shoulder day for me, I'm all in for 30 minutes. I'll get four shoulder exercises in three sets of 10. And then I'm in the sauna for 20 30 minutes like i'm good like whatever wonderful for you especially males so good man especially males and testosterone dude it's my testosterone level is way too high it's just way high right now it's a good thing or bad it's a good thing yeah i'm doing it the right way but you know a lot of times i have to keep decreasing my dose how's your blood you're not clotting or anything are you you get your blood checked yeah yeah like every whatever they you know whatever they tell you three four months or whatever it is maybe five months i don't i don't know but yeah my last levels came back at like over 1700 and they're like this is a problem i'm like yeah that's for me like no this is awesome i love this but they say okay what are you what are you pulling i go 0.5 that's my prescription so they they knock me down to 0.25 no 0.4 but like you know here's the thing though like you know of course my testosterone level is really high i am leaner i'm absorbing it better i'm not filling my body with toxins with shit 90 to 95 percent of the time i'm unplanned yeah but that five to ten percent is way off enjoy that enjoy i'm going all that 10 i'm going hard you have to enjoy it if you enjoy that 10 it makes the other 90 worth it you know it's funny because like it used to be if we had pizza it would be like four or five pieces, you know, now me going off the rails is two pieces and I'm just like, I can't eat anymore.
1:17:57Like I'm, I'm done. I literally can't eat more than two. But, but, but I enjoy it. Right. And I don't feel like shit later on that day. And I just, you know, I just think it's super important to, that we got off in the weeds about testosterone because we're talking about saunas, but like, like, dude, I'm doing everything right. You know? I'll look at you. Of course you are. I mean, everything. Look at those veins. Yeah. They're getting there, man. They're getting there. Right. They're crushing life. But it's like. She had 1700. Dude, fuck. My doctor thought I was high. I'm in the 700s. Oh, really?
1:18:26My doctor was like, how old are you? And I told him, you know, I'm 38. And they're like, what are you doing? That's not even like. What are you doing? Dude, they get scared about that, man. Because they know that I don't have to come back. Yeah. Yeah. I go to waste a well to get my blood work done. Have it done online and go to LabCorp and have them check in. They send me the results and there's 78 biomarkers and all of them are either optimal or barely suboptimal. The only thing that I, what I check most is my PSA because it runs in my family, but I'm 0.2. So it's super low. My PSA levels are always good.
1:19:00My levels that have always been high. This is what, this is what's wacky. And if there's a holistic doctor listening, please reach out. My liver enzymes are way high all the time. And it started probably around 2015. And it doesn't matter if I'm overweight. doesn't matter if i'm lean they're high and i mean to a point where i went through the whole thing dude i went through ultrasounds cat scans so you don't have a fatty liver then right or do you they said you went to college that's the only thing that we can tell yeah so so like i did i did it with contrast without contrast i did a transdragular liver biopsy nothing like nothing like so when my blood work comes back it's my liver enzymes are always way up here but what i found out is, um, my biological father, I don't really know him, but he's pre-diabetic.
1:19:53So I think that kind of runs in the family. So I'm on this mission to figure out how I decrease that. Right. So I'll do the Himalayan liver care. I do all that stuff. But for some reason, just my liver is just always like, just, Hey, no. I wish I could give you an answer. I wish somebody would. I wish somebody would. I mean, there's gotta be something there. Right. But that's the only marker. Yeah. That's the only marker that comes back. We're like, what the hell? Like, Why is this like that? Especially when everything else is great or optimal or whatever the scores. Test is too high, but I don't find that a problem.
1:20:25My wife might. Your wife doesn't find it. She's probably like, get off of me, dude. She's like, dude, you're not 18 anymore. I'm like, I feel like it. Yeah. You have more than an 18-year-old. Dude, seriously, man. Waking up in the morning and you're just like, hey, I'm here. That's also a fear. When you get older, everybody tells you you're not as virile. you're not as, you know, ready to go. And, you know, you start having issues with, you know, erectile dysfunction and everything like that. And that scares men. Yeah. You know, that's not because who wants that? No, I don't want that. I want it to work, man.
1:20:57I want it to work and I want it to work well. I wonder, I, so I don't have never looked at the studies, but I wonder if there's a direct correlation to body fat percent and erectile dysfunction. There has to be, right. I mean, there has to be something. Yeah. I've not, I have yet to meet now. The men don't go around talking about it because we're men and we don't talk about our feelings really ever yeah i mean um that's a problem too i go to therapy i'm going tonight i go every two weeks good i think that's great yeah so shout out to men if you need therapy go do it man or talk to one of your boys too man yeah that's too yeah have a couple beers and talk and hang out hang out and you know but but then you're airing your dirty laundry to a man who could possibly use it against you later that's why i go to therapy because i never see this guy outside of the every two weeks when I see him, but I can talk about everything that's bothering me.
1:21:43He gives me things to think about. Um, he doesn't tell me how to think. He just asks questions, which makes me think about why I think about this way. That's good. Um, which is wonderful. It does. And owning a business and now running the nonprofit, the foundation and whatnot, and I'm busy. Oh yeah. I don't get time to think about me and what I'm doing. You know, I, I'm moving all the time. Um, so to go spend this hour every two weeks with him has been wonderful. And I've been doing this since 2020. It's smart, dude. I mean, therapy is, I mean, you need that unbiased someone you can talk to, you know, but I do think though, you know, dudes need to open up to each other more.
1:22:25Like if you had a really good friend and you're struggling with something and they ask you how you're doing, you're like, I'm good, man. Like, nah, like, nah, I can tell you're not, tell me, man, I can tell you're struggling, man. Like what's going on. And, you know, I recently had a conversation with a good buddy of mine that I met through the show. Right. He was on a reality show. Yeah, exactly. It was like, we're already here. You're sitting here, you know? So it's like, what would you call it? Like he, he was on a reality show, really good looking dude, division one athlete, you know, won a gold medal in the Pan Am games stud.
1:22:57And I remember calling him last year at one point and And the conversation was very short. It wasn't normal. I'm like, hmm, I wonder what's up. And then I went on a little bit of a road trip. I went to Atlanta and he was coincidentally also in Atlanta. And we were supposed to link up at one point, but I never heard from him. And so I just kind of, I'm like, hmm, I wonder what's going on. I ended up talking to him last week and he finally opened up and said, hey, I was really struggling last year. And, you know, I felt like I had lost everything. And I was like, is that why you were kind of like in these conversations?
1:23:35And I was like, bro, you can always talk to me, dude. Like you can all, you just know it's a safe space, man. Because, you know, a lot of times if we don't tell people what's going on, we leave their imagination to run wild and make up stories, you know? And I thought like, hey, maybe he just, maybe he doesn't want to talk to me. Yeah. Maybe he's upset with me. Maybe I did something. Or maybe we're not as tight as I thought we were. Or, you know, like, hey, we were tight for this period of time. And then, you know, he's decided not to, you know, be tight. And that's fine. But like, we have to be able to talk more.
1:24:08And I think it comes from confidence, you know, and doing the hard thing every day and having these conversations that you can completely open up and be okay. Yeah. Because I tell you, the pressures in this world. To be a man is not easy. to be a man a husband a father an entrepreneur man of god that's the hardest especially in this world especially now in this world especially now in this world man and and i think it's equally as hard obviously to be a woman and to be a mom and to be a wife and have to worry about all these different things to to make the household run and and and i think what's important is the the two people in the house they pull together and they and they pull the weight together but But, you know, if we're not talking about things that are bothering us, man, I just think that it's just, it's a recipe for disaster, dude.
1:25:01But through your work, you're giving these kids and these families the opportunity to grow strength and to have these conversations. The other thing that I think is really interesting about what you do is, you know, when you look at the parent and child dynamic, you're talking about this bond that they build. but, but they're, but you're also helping them build this vacuum where they can be completely honest with each other. Like, Hey, I don't like when you're doing this, or this doesn't feel good when you do this, or I'm struggling with this. My friends are out drinking. What do I do? You have to have these moments as a, as a parent, when you're putting kids in the situation to where they can be honest with you and you not judge them.
1:25:48And there's no better avenue to do that. When you're sitting there watching your kids sweat and your kids watching you sweat, it's dude, that's congruence, dude. You know, and a lot of people listening may think this doesn't make sense. Just go try it. Yeah. Because to me, it makes all the sense. Yeah. It makes everything. Yeah. It makes complete sense. Yeah, man. I think what kids watching, even if the kids are too young, So we have some kids that come to the gym with their parents every day at 430. They sit in the lounge, but they're there every day. They see their parents sweating every day.
1:26:23They see their mom and dad fall in love with each other every day working out together. They see them high five each other at the end of it. They see that this is part of life. I guarantee you they're going to grow up and work out the rest of their life. Yes. Because they realize it's not a punishment. They realize this is just a lifestyle. Yeah. And I think that a lot of two people, a lot of people look at it as a chore. Like, no, this is a blessing. You get to move your body. How many people out there can't move their bodies right now that wish that they could? Yeah. And we're sitting here pissing it away.
1:26:52Yeah. You think about that. Yeah. Dude. I did an event at the Red Sox stadium last Saturday. We did a health and wellness event and I ran the workout. And when I was up on stage, cause I coached it, AKA talked them through it. Cause I was up on stage with the mic. I said when we're in one of our breaks Don't forget that Your workout is not a punishment of what you ate last night or what you drank last night It's a celebration of what your body can do I had three different people come up to me after and was like, oh my god, I've never heard that I will never forget it and every time that I eat bad on friday night I'll make sure that I still go to the gym on saturday morning or whatever And these are adults and they're like, I've never heard that.
1:27:37A celebration as opposed to a punishment. Dude, it took me until I was 46 to realize that. One of these guys was 50. Dude, that was the first time he ever heard it. No shame in that, bro. Yeah, but now he's got the rest of his life to realize that movement or exercise is a celebration, not a punishment. It's very good, man. Thanks for coming, dude. Been a freaking awesome time, man. This is almost, even the fact that I was even thought or one brought up to you to be on this podcast. then considered to be on the podcast and now sitting here is, I mean, all of it's a dream come true, man. I never thought.
1:28:12Thank you. I appreciate that. But I mean, when I look at things, you know,
1:28:20sharing things with my audience, it has to be something that I feel is impactful, something that is alignment with the brand, but also more importantly, I can give an insurmountable amount of value to the listener. right and it was a no-brainer for me dude like there's i mean dude straight up bro i mean i'm equally as grateful and excited that you are sitting here with me today because you know a lot of people you know walk through life in this world and they only do things for personal gain your life would be so much easier you would have way more money if you were not doing this but what i do know time yeah but you know what and more time right to do whatever to you know go through the half gallons of ice cream god gave me a calling man he did and you can't you can't you can't disrespect it you can't disrespect it and walk away from it because like that's why i wanted you on because of the fact that you're still choosing it's a it's a conscious decision every day to do this for the community and when you talk about a calling
1:29:30for me i looked at this whole thing as something i wanted to do until i realized this what he wanted me to do and then there was no turning back i heard a i heard a clip and after that we'll we'll roll is um cj he's in um eric thomas's camp um you know he's a preacher yeah yeah dude eric Thomas is an amazing human being. I love that guy. I love when I get to hang out with him. He's just, he is who he advertises. That's awesome. And same with everybody in his, in his group, Jeremy Anderson, Brandon Burns, CJ Quinney, um, Inky John, Inky Johnson. I mean, you want to talk about an amazing human being like, but you know, where was I going with it?
1:30:20Oh, CJ. CJ. Yeah. And I saw a clip. It was literally two days before I met him at an event of one of Eric's events. And he was talking about this virtual reality headset that he bought his kids. That's all they wanted was this VR set. So he buys it for him. A couple of weeks goes by and he hasn't seen him playing with it. And he goes, hey, you guys still, you know, playing with the VR headset? What's going on? They're like, oh, well, about that, you know, we lost it. Right. It's a gift. As a parent, you want your child to use the gift that you gave them. And value it. And value it because you spent money on it.
1:30:59You spent thought. What about when God gives you a gift and you don't use it? Like when he said that, and I didn't even know this man at that time, it hit me right in the chest. It's like, I can't piss this away because it was good. This is a gift given to me from a higher power. And, and again, like call it what you want, but this is what I'm really good at is because I was given this ability and now I've refined it. I've worked on it. And some days I'm better than others, right? Because I'm, but I'm human, right? I'm not always going to operate at a hundred percent capacity. It's impossible.
1:31:36but to turn your back on your gift, I think is the ultimate act of disrespect. And I think more people need to identify what their gifts are and find a way to use them for the good of other people. And then you will be blessed, right? You, you, it'll all come back to you. But I think the main part of that is not to worry about how, if you get stuck in the, how you'll never move yeah it just will never happen man you just gotta blindly go and figure it out and stumble and like fall and fail be laughed at be scoffed at like dude we've gone through some crap in this show man like big time but it's my gift you know it's a gift and we're still moving right we're still we're not anywhere close to where i want to be until i make that impact on a larger level and i can see it every day i'm not done and that's the same path you're on yeah with what you're doing you know it's like you're being very successful at how you're doing it now but you have bigger goals but you're not focused on you know down the road you're not focused on having 100 gyms with the program no you have to execute what you have now yeah and then it grows yep it's soon because here's what you're going to find man you're going to run into somebody they can come into your gym you're not going to know who your she is but they're going to have a kid you know don't worry about we just heard about you we're going to pay but don't we just want them here but what they're really doing is vetting you out because they have a ton of money and that's how it's going to happen bro that's how it's going to happen someone's going to walk in there and they're going to end up funding everything that you need i hope man you will because the funding again like i've told you a hundred times and i i want to beat that dead doors is the money's not for me the money's for the kids and their memberships yeah so they never have to pay for a gym membership or a trainer to teach them how to eat or to teach them how to work out ever they can go through 11 to 17 and then be fine for the rest because now they have the baseline yeah they understand the habits they understand what it's going to take it ain't hope it's just when yep it'll happen the right person will walk in and you're going to be able to give to this community at a scale that you've wanted to, man.
1:33:50So I hope and pray it'll happen, man. I appreciate you, brother. Thank you so much for coming on. Yeah, dude, it's been great, man. For the audience, go check out Donnie Keller on Instagram. All his links will be in the show notes. If you're local, go check out the gym. If you're a local business and you are, you have a budget to donate to nonprofit, check them out. Wilson's Fit Future, 1200 bucks a year is going to pay for one kid throughout the whole year for the membership. I can think of so many things that I blow$1 ,200 on that doesn't benefit the children of the community. Baseball bat. Baseball bat.
1:34:25Yeah, those are like 500 bucks now. That's freaking insane, right? So check them out. If it's something that you are interested in and sponsoring, you can go to check it out. And, you know. Even if you want more information, just go to wilsonspitfutures.org, fill out the form. I'm going to be the one I get the form directly sent to my phone. I'm going to be the one that's going to message you back. I'll call you. I'll talk to you. I'll do what I want this program to grow. Yeah. I need to meet the right people to help me get to that level. I love it. I love it. All right, guys, share the show with someone, you know, love and trust.
1:34:59And until next time, stay determined.
From the publisher
Donnie Keller, owner of Ionic Fitness in Bonita Springs and founder of Wilson's Fit Futures, reveals how discipline and cultural perspective transform kids' lives. In this episode, we explore youth mental health, breaking norms in fitness education, and how building habits early becomes the ultimate adversity-breaker. Learn actionable strategies to help young people develop confidence and determination through fitness and nutrition—a conversation every parent needs to hear.
Key Takeaways
-Fitness builds confidence, discipline, and mental health for kids
-Parents who lead by example raise healthier, stronger children
-Small daily habits determine long-term health and success
-Progress, not perfection, is the key to sustainable fitness
-Community support can change the future for the next generation
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