Freedom Town USA with Patrick Dearborn

20:06Shawn French:And, but the thing is, is understanding other people. And when you do that with all your guests, they become entrenched of like saying, oh wow, here's the thought process. That was the most fun interview I've ever had. Thank you for that. I really appreciate that. That does mean a lot to me. And then when the show comes out, they share it like crazy yeah they put they put it to their mailing list like brad melzer 12 out of 12 best best new york times bestseller yeah 12 out of 12 multiple genres multiple genres now he's in kids books yeah you know he's just dropping another one called the viper he dudes a massive hit dude that show got 63 000 streams okay that one show and it's what's his message kindness is a superpower.

20:51Shawn French:Like guys, there's a reason that people read his books. There's a, he's a very talented author. Don't get me wrong. But when people get behind the man or the woman, because they know that that man or woman is about what they say they're about, people go to war for them. Oh yeah. And that's what I've tried to create here. And again, still trying, right? We're still, I won't say trying, but we're, we're executing. You're getting there, buddy. We're getting there.

21:17Patrick Dearborn:Yeah. Man on top of the mountain didn't fall there for sure. That's awesome. You know, it goes back to what you and I were talking about before. Earlier, I was sharing with you some of my background. I know we share a common faith, right? We're both believers. I don't personally use the term I'm Christian because Christian means Christ-like. And I can tell you, and those that know me and my friends and family know, there are times when I'm not very Christ-like. I'm a follower of Christ. I'm watching The Chosen again, re-watching it. I'm on season four or five. And it's just so good. And I'm not here to promote a TV show, but if you wanted, reading the Bible for all, I'm almost 57 years old.

21:59Patrick Dearborn:Reading the Bible, I get lost sometimes or it goes over my head. Seeing this show in contact, I'm a visual person. The Chosen has really shown me how imperfect and flawed, just like we are, the disciples were. And yet Jesus was patient and he already knew this guy's going to betray me. This guy's going to deny me three times. This guy's going to do this. This guy's going to do that. And yet he still loved on all of them and kept him as his core group. And it just, it teaches me number one, that we are who we hang around. We are who we hang around. Number two, we are the sum of not just our experiences growing up, but we're the sum of who we hang out with the most.

22:44Patrick Dearborn:So when I hang out with great people and Colin and I have had this discussion, there's a verse in the Bible, Proverbs, and I can't quote many, but Proverbs 27, 17. Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another. So you got to get around those kind of people. You got to say, hey, you're a man. I'm a man. I'm a father. You're a father. You were a son. I was a son. And you share the struggles that we have. Listen, it ain't easy being a heterosexual, straight, white, Christian, Christ following, conservative male in today's society. And I spoke those words for me. It ain't easy. Yeah. But I can tell you this.

23:33Patrick Dearborn:I got to quit focusing on and worrying about, am I getting my fair share? Am I getting my just rewards? Am I getting my just desserts? And focusing on how can I make everybody around my circle better?

23:49Shawn French:That's it, right? That is the cheat code. If everybody wants a silver bullet, right, of what's it going to take to do whatever it is that you want to do? I don't care at what level. I don't care if you're a beginner or an expert. The, the path to greatness is make people better. It's value. It's value based. It's, it's, it's driven with value. If you can't provide the value and people aren't picking up what you're putting down and there's maybe some disconnects in there with what you're saying, what you actually do. Well, then, then it's a completely different, completely different story. You said something and I don't want to glance over it because you talked about, you know, all the disciples and Jesus and he knew that person was going to done.

24:35Shawn French:I am three times. You knew that. Betrayal. Betrayal. So, but you're watching the show, getting angry. Like, right. Don't you know, he's going to put you there. You know the deal, man. What are you doing? Crazy. But here's the thing. If he could do it, why can't we? Because all the, all too often people go into interactions and conversations and business conversations or whatever it is with like, if I give something, it's always a quid pro quo, but why can't you just be like, why can't you just be like what? I didn't have any intentions of going other than, you know, Pat and Tim asked me to come on.

25:10Shawn French:I'm like, dude, that sounds like a fun time. Like it's something different. I haven't done a live show in a long time. That was fun. Let me go. Let's go have a blast. But then when you give all your attention and all your poise and your focus to that one activity, things come out of it. Things always come out of it when you lead the right way, when you lead with your heart and just being excited to be around people. And that's what drives me crazy. It drives me crazy when people don't think that way. And again, I'm not here to judge y 'all. I mean, cause I don't have the same worldly view or, or the same paradigm as maybe three people that are listening right now, pissed off at what I'm saying is I see you, I got you follow me.

25:52Shawn French:Hold on is I don't have their perspective. So I can't intelligently speak on that. But what I can say, what I can say without a shadow of a doubt, if they just tried to operate out of a value based and. And a giving energy, their day would be much better. And they will start to knock down some of those goals that they have set. A thousand percent. Because there's a major block, right? There's a major energetic block when you want something very massive, but you hold it so tight. Not just finances, not just your success, but when you hold so tight that you close people off, you are cutting your knees out from underneath you.

26:35Shawn French:A thousand percent. Got to be open, man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

26:38Patrick Dearborn:You know, he asked earlier about that song. It's been on my head. I got roads. Ira Dean's got a verse in there that says there's a lot of great verses. And it's about, I relate to it because of the words, but one of the verses is every sinner has a future and every saint has a past. And we were on that panel last year and I didn't pre-plan this, but it just came to me where there's a reason why the rear view mirror is this big and my windshield looking out in front of me. I remember that. I remember that. And we focus so much on the past and I'm just going to be real. Whoever they are that want me and you at each other, they don't want us getting along.

27:14Patrick Dearborn:They also like us to be fearful and focus so much on our past. Like how you can't, you can't, I can't talk somebody about my faith because look at all the bad things I've done in my life. Look at what I did last Saturday at that pool party. And that's what Satan whispers in your ear. You're not worthy enough. You're not good enough. You're not worthy enough. I used to always, people would ask me, how you're doing? And I always had this pre, I heard it from somewhere. And I thought it was a cool response, better than I deserve. And along the way, someone pulled me aside and goes, stop saying that.

27:48Patrick Dearborn:Because you deserve, we deserve a phenomenal life. Goes back to what you just said. We are the biggest cause why we don't have those phenomenal lives. Because we caught up in that rear view mirror. and I get caught up in my side view mirrors going, what's this person doing? What's that person doing? As opposed to staying in my lane and looking out through my windshield going, I got all this. Look at all these people I can impact. Look at all these people I could ask to come to my men's group Tuesday morning at 7.30 at See the Table. Look at what I can do with the kids in Immokalee and the things that we do in giving back and you do the same thing.

28:27Patrick Dearborn:So the point is not to be a do-gooder and wear that shirt that says, I'm here to save the world. No, we want to listen. Being an encourager, being a giver is not a trumpet call to self-importance. It's not a trumpet call to flex your muscles, throw out your chest. Being a giver, being a follower of Christ, being an encourager means it's a trumpet call to serve. That's why I ran for a fire commissioner. Fire commissioner, by the way, pays$500 a month. So I didn't do it for the money. And I'm not making fun of$500 a month. I donate that salary to worthwhile causes, but I did it because I was never a firefighter, but I love what firefighters do.

29:11Patrick Dearborn:Just in general, they run to it. When I was in the military, we ran towards the fire. We ran towards the gunfire. We ran towards danger and you can't teach it. You can't learn it. Doesn't mean I'm better than other people, but for some reason, God may be where I have that knack where if there's gunfire, I'm running towards it. Um, and pull my, my, my Glock out and we're going to put down a bad guy. And I pray every day. I never have to do that when I carry my concealed carry, but man, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun period. But I run towards it. These firefighters here, we have locally every day greater naples fire rescue they're responding to car right you make car accidents on a given day we have that would that would be the hardest part about that crazy dude and 100 degree heat and they're fully loaded up and they're they're emt certified they're there for every call every 9-1-1 call the elderly population in collier county man they take the wrong medication i'm having heart palpitations you don't know which 9-1-1 call they're getting ready to die or they're dead and they got to show up and try to do life-saving measures so So shout out to Amina, to not just the greater Naples Fire Rescue, firefighters and EMS and the staff, but to all of our first responders.

30:25Patrick Dearborn:Man, I was so honored today to be requested to come to the Collier County Board of County Commissioner meeting. And I got to lead the Pledge of Allegiance and give a shout out to I love living in Collier County because, and we've nicknamed this town Freedom Town USA, because we love our first responders, cops. We don't spit on our cops in this town. We respect our law enforcement. We respect and love and appreciate all of our firefighters, all our EMS, all of our nurses. Listen, first responders and essential personnel can go beyond teachers and dentists. And I mean, it goes on and on and on. But let's focus on those first responders.

31:06Patrick Dearborn:I love living in a town where, as a community, we love and cherish them.

31:10Shawn French:And that doesn't happen in every community. Well, there's a lot that goes on with first responders, right? My uncle was a firefighter, retired out in Woodland, California. I idolized him when I was growing up. But with first responders, there's always the things that they do, like running towards the fire. Our police department keeps us safe and they don't know which traffic stop is going to be their last. Or someone's going to pull out a gun. That's what I'm saying, right? You don't know when it's going to be your last one. I mean, it could be, right? But then you look at the other side of the coin.

31:43Shawn French:They have families at home that are worried about them every single day that they go to work. So why would we not edify these people? A thousand percent. You know, that's a great point, man. That's a great point.

31:50Patrick Dearborn:And that's why I ran. I didn't run. Listen, I've been asked to run for other political offices. And I'll say the same thing. And I'll say it right now. I have no interest in any other thing. I love being the fire commissioner because, A, I just love giving back to our community and really helping these people have great lives. And I love our county. Yeah. So to me, I'm an encourager, right? So I want to encourage our firefighters. I want to encourage our taxpaying, my fellow taxpaying citizens. Look, we all got to pay a little bit extra to make sure our firefighters and their families are taken care of and our police are taken care of.

32:25Patrick Dearborn:And that's how you have a great county. We walk around all the time bragging about how awesome Cuyahoga County. I mean, a week doesn't go by where Naples or Cuyahoga County doesn't end up number one, number two on some list. Best place to live. Healthiest place to live. Happiest place to live. Well, those are all true. We love it here. But why? Super clean, too. And that's not a lord. That doesn't involve politics. That doesn't involve anything else. Religion. It involves people caring about each other and caring about our community. And I'm blessed. We're blessed to live here. We have low crime.

32:56Patrick Dearborn:We have the best first responders. We have low crime here. We have great supermarkets with locally grown, healthy, organic stuff. We have the beach and our grassy yards year round. No snow, no frost. You can walk outside and walk barefoot on the earth and ground. It's good for you. You can walk outside and breathe fresh air every day. You can walk and take a dip in the ocean with manatees and sea turtles and dolphins every day. And that's free.

33:22Shawn French:Yeah.

33:22Patrick Dearborn:Free.

33:23Shawn French:Yeah.

33:23Patrick Dearborn:So imagine living here. We can do that year round. So again, I feel like people forget sometimes as we work our job, we put our heads down and our blinders on. You forget the Gulf of America is literally a mile and a half that way. You forget that seed the table where the vegetables and fruits are grown eight, 10 miles east of here out there in the farmlands of Immokalee. And shout out to Alfie Oates, one of my good friends and just a great, great guy for our, our, our County. So much history here gives so much back. Um, so we appreciate you and love you Alfie, but I can go on and on and on the local businesses here and people that have built John R.

33:58Patrick Dearborn:Wood may rest, may rest in peace. John R. Wood started the company I worked for my day job being a realtor in 1958. And that guy, He was a short little guy, the funniest guy ever, always made people laugh. He became an icon. He helped start multiple things like St. Matthew's House and supported them. And there's some housing places, Justin's Place, that John Irwood, Mr. Wood, started himself because he wanted to give back and he wanted to pour into the town that he loved. In 1958, this town wasn't that big of a deal back then. But guys like him put this town on the map, and that's why everybody wants to live here.

34:40Patrick Dearborn:So realtors like me and businesses like everybody else benefit because we live somewhere where everybody wants to be here. How awesome is that? That's pretty darn cool, man. I don't care the Ten Commandments are on the front of the government door or not. It's still Freedom Town, USA. It's still an awesome place to live. I hope they pass that today because it's referring to our history of our Ten Commandments, not a religious statement. But again, at the end of the day, I got to focus on turn off the news, focus on positive things, get around like-minded, positive people, listen to podcasts, learn things, get better mentally, physically, and spiritually.

35:19Patrick Dearborn:And the rest is cake.

35:21Shawn French:Good segue, right? All great things. You know, we talk about getting better mentally, right? Physically. You've been looking great, man.

35:30Patrick Dearborn:And, you know, did you, let's be honest between us and your, and your followers and your watchers, did you do biceps today, man, before? No, I had, I had, um, no, man, I had back today.

35:38Shawn French:I don't like, no, I had back today. It was back. Is there some, you got some weights back there, man. Little baby, little five pounders. No, today was a back day and it was at four 30 in the morning. So my pump's gone. My pump's gone. Thanks on me. Four 30 AM. Yeah, man. I thought I was early at six. Well, see, here's the thing, right? It all bleeds into the conversation. all these things that we're wanting to get better at, whether it's a job, doesn't matter. My marriage and your marriage, my marriage, my relationship with my son. Yeah. My kids. Yeah. My coworkers. It all starts with the first decision you make every day.

36:11Shawn French:And so when people say to me like, dude, you can work out at nine, you're your own boss. I'm like, if I work out at 9am, I have my publicist blowing up my phone. I mean, I have so many different things. I have my partners that need me. I have grit that needs me. I have my wife that needs me, my children. I need to be present. I need to be focused. So for me, for everybody listening, everybody has that one thing that they struggle with. And that's usually the first thing that you need to take care of every single day. For me, for a long time, I got out of the gym. I got in really bad shape. So I said, okay, I need to get up at four.

36:43Shawn French:I need to be in the gym parking lot by 425, 430. And then I go do the damn thing that I don't want to do the most in my life. And then when I get home, daddy's lit up daddy feels good he had a 45 minute lift or i just yeah i just sat in the sauna for 25 30 minutes chopping it up with dudes that that that have the same type of energy that are there doing the work in the morning i get home and i'm like everything else is easy the breakfast the making the snacks for the kids helping my wife get them ready for the morning because she's up there getting ready for her day she's a teacher god bless her right and so but but But my point is, you can't be better for everybody if you don't take care of yourself first.

37:24Shawn French:And that is not a selfish thing. No. But now here's the other flip side of it. One second. Yeah. The key at that first takeaway.

37:30Patrick Dearborn:I know you're done yet. You do something right out the gate. You wake up. You go do something you don't want to do.

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38:06Patrick Dearborn:Do something you don't want to do every day. And you want to make sure your kids are going to be okay when they get older. And can adapt to this crazy society in this world. Make your kids do something they don't want to do every day. You know what you're preparing them for?

38:21Shawn French:Real life. Yeah. How about that? Anyway. Yeah. No. So I just think it's important, man. I don't know where I was going with it outside of that, but every, you were telling me how you start your day sets off your whole thing. Right. It's everything. But you have a choice to do that. Right. But then when I don't do it, those are the days that I'm, I have lack of patience. Those are the days that I'm snippy with my wife and my kids, because you know why? It's not their fault. is because I broke my word to myself. I broke my standard. And goals are one thing, but when you have a standard and you hold to it, that's where the growth happens.

38:52Shawn French:It could be physically, it could be mentally, it could be financial, it doesn't matter. Everybody has to have a standard. And the one thing that you struggle with, take care of that thing and make standards and processes and systems around that to insulate you from all risk and get really good at that. Guess what else happens to everything else? It takes care of it itself because now you operate in those relationships and those other verticals the same way you do when you wake up at four o 'clock in the morning and you have your butt in the gym.

39:18Patrick Dearborn:That's it, man. I'm not doing 4.30 the gym, but same thing, non-negotiables. You gotta be consistent, mind, body, spirit. Rinse takes your laundry and hand delivers it to your door, expertly cleaned and folded. So you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a whole new version of you. Like tea time you.

39:39Shawn French:Mmm.

39:39Patrick Dearborn:Or this tea time you.

39:42Shawn French:or even this tea time you said you hear about dave or even tea time tea time tea time you

39:50Patrick Dearborn:so update on dave it's up to you we'll take the laundry rinse it's time to be great i love again you're getting up who wants to get up at 4 a.m and go to the gym at 4 30 no that's not a natural thing no it's no different than jumping into a three minute cold shower or a three minute cold plunge. Your body doesn't want to do that. That's natural.

40:11Shawn French:And yet you make yourself do it. Your brain is wired to keep you safe, man. Yeah. And I remember this morning I was telling Kyle over there is like, you know, I woke up at four and I laid at this, I laid in the bed and looked at the I know Kyle went up at four. No, Kyle went up at four. Kyle wouldn't get up at four. Young buck, handsome little kid. They've been told. Yeah. No, I'm not. I mean, they'd kill him here if he you know slept till 11 but no dude like i was laying there i was telling him what every part of me right now it was never off it was never on the table for me not to go yeah you know what i always do is always drape a leg over because if i drape a leg over then i'm so uncomfortable i can't fall back asleep that's the trick huh but i was like i was like i was like you know left leg out but then i'm like man this is gonna be a rough lift i might if i move right now i might pull a muscle.

41:01Shawn French:Like that's how.

41:04Patrick Dearborn:So you're about to make a trade based on a friend's text. But which you do you listen to? Is it, we could buy a house in Tulum. Get optioning those options. We could lose everything.

41:22Shawn French:Or let's do a little research. Get your head in the trade and make the investment a decision that's right for you. Learn more at finra.org slash trade smart. Much I hurt this morning. Wow. And I said, okay. Got to call tea clinic USA though. I'm all hooked up with tea clinics, bro. But like, he's great, dude. Just all the support, education to products, to execution, to community. Right. That's a thousand percent. But I said to myself like, okay, I might break in half right now. But my point is with this, you just have to make the next step. So for the next step is putting both feet on the ground.

42:05Shawn French:And then it's taking my gym clothes inside the bathroom, brushing my teeth, getting dressed, walking downstairs, filling up my water with my electrolytes, with my creatine, have my protein shake. And then I get in the gym. I get arms like that. I'm going to start doing all that stuff. Give me that whole list. Give

42:23Patrick Dearborn:me that list it's crazy love them arms sean french arms let's go let's go look i'm serious but listen mate i met you a year ago to now brother unbelievable man it's inspiring i mean looking awesome brother keep it up but again there is no status quo where you could coast now right big podcast show fans all these celebrities on your show but that goes away if i if i coast

42:44Shawn French:a thousand percent but that's the thing that's what the coasting is so easy though Oh, so relax and just coast. This is going to create some hard road, but it's going to create some massive roadblocks, man. Exactly. And so that's the thing. It's like, just do the next natural thing, right? Get in the vehicle and push to start. Or if you still have a crank, cool. Crank to start, whatever it is. I haven't seen one in a long time, but I got old school. Yeah. But yeah, but you know, that's, that's vintage baby. That's at the blue license plate dog. But like you do that thing. And then by the time you get to the gym or to crack your book open and read, you've already done five things that you don't want to do.

43:21Shawn French:And it's so important to understand and honor those small things that you did, like putting both feet on the floor and brushing your teeth and getting dressed. Yeah. Like that's, that's three or four things right there, man. Because today I was just like, dude, and you know what? My lift wasn't great. My lift wasn't great, but I did it. Yeah. And now those hard things that I have to do the rest of the day, I'm not going to cheat myself on. I'm going to pick up the phone and do the reach. I'm going to pick up the phone and do the thing. I'm going to send the hard email. I'm going to record the show.

43:54Shawn French:And if I hadn't done that this morning, the conversation wouldn't be as good as it is right now. That's awesome. So I was like that only different.

44:02Patrick Dearborn:I woke up at 4 a.m. super excited because I'm like, I'm like, I get to be on Sean French's Determined Society podcast. And I'm being dead serious. So I went and had a killer freaking workout. I won an extra hard. Should have done arms. Didn't do arms today, but next time. And just so excited. Had a bunch of other stuff before I got here and was really excited to be back here with the grit guys. But more importantly, to be with you, lock arms with you, to be on this show, man. This podcast studio is amazing. The Determined Society is amazing. Your freaking logo is amazing. Thank you. I need a logo.

44:39Patrick Dearborn:Pat Sickins.

44:40Shawn French:I need a logo. That sickens. Something like that. It's just cool. Yeah, dude. Simple. I mean, look, man, and it's numerology. It's a seven and a seven. I know, but the hat, I saw that, but like the hat logo, it looks just clean.

44:50Patrick Dearborn:I can't wait for that much drop. I can't wait for that. All right. So can I, I'm going to put it on the spot. Could I get some free swag, man, when that stuff comes out? Yeah. Yeah.

44:58Shawn French:I think you know the guy. I think, Kevin. But no, I mean, like, listen, it's all part of it, you know, like, but, but again, there's certain steps in the process. Like I wanted a merch brand a long time ago, but nothing worked out or isn't it funny? Nothing worked out. And then you introduced me to Kevin Van Dusen. We knew of each other. Some of God's greatest gifts are on an answer to prayers. Come on, man. And then, and then we meet like we, I did a show and that was fun, bro. He's a really good interviewer. I am. Talking about Pat and Kevin Van Dusen. I am going to edify him on the air. Like he is a very skilled interviewer.

45:35Shawn French:Yeah. Very skilled. Enjoyed that. then we went to uh hq yeah and then he took a little little disheveled there they're just

45:44Patrick Dearborn:they just moved but where it's gonna be like another month from now it's sick it's unbelievable it's their products that that's true i'm just telling you it's a different feeling when you put on one of their shirts and i'm not a golfer my wife went nuts when i put these on dude i'm like they just go off and the way the sleeves and then they do the untucked yeah they and in the back of that i think yours has the exit 20 verse 20 um uh verse 20 and then verse 3 yeah He has three. Yeah, three. And some of them have the Psalm 91. They just have really cool spiritual meaning behind it, but the quality.

46:17Patrick Dearborn:And I just love their whole mission statement, which is there's been lots of goats, right? Look, I'm just being real. I'm not here to kiss your butt, but Sean French is a goat. I think Gary Brecka, the ultimate human, is a goat. I think Jeff Delaney is a goat in tea clinics. He's done the tea clinics. I think Tom Brady is a goat. I think Michael Jordan's a goat. But who's goaded? Who is the greatest of all times? Well, how about God who created all of us? And that's what I love behind the, it's the, what do I stand for? What does determined society stand for? What does Patrick Dearborn as a realtor or Patrick Dearborn as a fire commissioner stand for?

47:00Patrick Dearborn:You can do all the lip service you want, man. You could talk on this show all day long. but that logo means something because of the trials and tribulations you went through to get here.

47:10Shawn French:And there's that, that's the thing. I demand that from everybody within my company and everybody I work with, because here's the thing. The brand is the brand is the brand. Like we all have to live this and it's not, I'm not asking anybody to do anything crazy, but if you're having a bad day and you're feeling like a victim, stop it. Right. You're alive. Yeah. God didn't take you. No. You, you have time yet for right now you have time to impact. to your day. Right. And like, we live by a certain set of values, man. And if I don't live them in my life, then I can't do it on the show. You know? And I think that for a long time, there was a disconnect, right.

47:46Shawn French:To where, you know, I was, I'm going to say, dude, I was a fat mess. I was 31 % body fat in December of last year. Man, I was 230 pounds, bro. What was your go-to, man? What was your cheap? Was it Culver's? Was it burgers? Was it fast food? Oh, I love ice cream. I'm not going I'm still not giving up ice cream. Good. Like, don't kiss my ass. I'm not giving it up. Listen, I'm pro ice cream, pro ice cream, pro ice cream. I will eat a concrete mixer in one sitting and not feel bad about it because you got up at 4am and dropped that leg off the bed. Come on. And drug your butt down to the gym. Exactly.

48:20Shawn French:But like yesterday, I took my, my youngest to get a mixer. I didn't have one. I, but I can, I can now go, okay, I don't, yeah, I don't need it, nor do I want it right now. Right. But on the, when the, when the, when Saturday comes and it's, and it's ice cream day, then dude, I'm all about it. Ice cream day. Wow. I don't know. It's usually Saturdays. It's usually a sandwich night. I love ice cream. I love it all. But so, so like, you know, for me, like, man, it was just like a multitude of things. It was stress. It was moving from corporate America to determine society, full time financial struggle, uh, turned into, you know, temporary depression, which turned into laying on my couch all day, unless I had to shoot a show.

49:03Shawn French:See, a lot of people don't understand. I always want to talk about it. And I'm going to say it right here. When I first came over with grit, I was upstairs recording and those were the only two or three hours I was off the couch. Broken, bro, broken. And there was this disconnect of what the brand was saying and what I was doing, right in my own personal life the moment i fix that like i'm like hanging off the back of a freaking train i'm like can you slow down just a little bit so i can catch my breath but every time i think it's going to slow down like it just goes and i'm like okay so now i have a choice i can feel my body i can feel my mind i can feel my soul with good things so i can keep doing this or i cannot everybody has a choice that's it you all have choices i hate to break it to you guys You all have choices, but you know, and not the choices that, well, I can't do this because my dad's going to make fun of me.

49:56Shawn French:I can't do this because my best friend's going to make fun of me. Do you know how many people patronized me for doing this? Oh my gosh. It was, it was crazy amounts of people. Not only that, when I left teaching to go into sales, my, my old coaching buddies and my old, you know, coworkers at the school, who does he think he is leaving school to go be a salesman, make all this money? He'll be back. Wow.

50:19Patrick Dearborn:No, I didn't go back. Behind every great plan is if people are telling you it's not going to work, you know. Then you go hard.

50:27Shawn French:You run towards the fire. A thousand percent. And I feel as though we've done that here, right? We have ran. I have ran towards the fire. And a lot of times my wife would say, okay, you need to run a little slower to the fire. I support you, but run a little slower. You're going too damn fast, too quick. But I'm a visionary. I don't have much strategy. You know, now I've gotten so much better over the years, right? Especially the last year of understanding process, understanding strategy. But this all ties in, right? This is all a part of, this is the unsexy, boring part of building something pretty cool.

51:03Shawn French:Yeah, yeah. It's all the things. It's pretty cool. All the things that nobody wants to do. Yeah. At least for an extended period of time.

51:08Patrick Dearborn:So where's Sean French? So I want to put a date right now. One year from now, I want to meet back here. Where's Sean French going to be a year from now?

51:16Shawn French:man, I think by a year from now, we'll have a steady, a steady list of a list people on the show consistently. I believe we will have our rookie deal by then, meaning, you know, a multi-year deal with a big platform that, you know, me and the team can look at, she's like, dang, we execute that. And then we go for the$250 million deal in about five, six years, you know? Um, but, But more than that, what I really hope outside of all the flashy things, because we need that in order to be successful and to give society the show and to keep it going and keep getting better and better and up leveling it.

51:53Shawn French:You know, what I'm hoping by then is that the show is the focal point for everybody. And what I mean, everybody, you know, I'm hoping to determine society becomes the brand of something like a Joe Rogan, something like a Gary Brecka, because that means people are going there to learn. People are going to the show to be fulfilled. That's what I ultimately want. I want to empower society to chase their damn dreams, no matter how they feel emotionally at the time. Also an HQ. I want an HQ with a gym in there. That's awesome. Clothing store. clothing store maybe even a maybe even a concrete mixer machine oh dude come on let's go do it culver that's awesome i'm calling you out oh man yeah come on product placement no but i just think that you know having an hq um can bring so much joy man so much joy to be able to get out of the house even when i'm not recording swipe the fob walk into my own gym and then hop in the shower there, hop in the cold plunge, whatever it is, man.

52:57Shawn French:I just plunge massive, massive goals, man. But you know what? We'll never get there if we don't provide the people what they want, which is great conversation in a place where they can feel welcome and not judged. Yeah. Yeah. That's where we're at, man. That's awesome.

53:11Patrick Dearborn:Um, I recorded everything you just said for one year from now, man, you're going to hold yourself to it. Absolutely. And I cannot wait to see you just keep being great, great, great. And again, the best thing about you is I love that you're an encourager. You're a bright light in a dark world. We need more people like you, man. I mean that. And you're giving me some confidence and encouragement to go out and try to be more of an encourager and a light like you're doing. So I want to reach more people. I want to encourage more people like you do. And I'm just thankful that God put you and I together.

53:52Patrick Dearborn:Same, man. And we locked arms, you know, through the John Huffman event on that panel with Jeff Delaney and myself and you and Lauren Maxwell was on there to the 239 show to Here We Are Now with Grit and you. And I'm on the Determined Society podcast. Going through to see all the people you've had on here was just pretty awesome. So I was a little bit nervous. I don't get nervous, man, but I got a little bit nervous. Were you really? Yeah, man. I went home and changed outfits. two times um yeah just doesn't ring out my eyes yeah so you look good man yeah we're well listen again i got on that program um combination of ultimate human protocols and gary brecca and then of course locally here i go see jeff for for all the guidance and for all the stuff and he got on a program and it's been game changing i can't change my life dude yeah we're making we're making 57 great again for sure you're a young buck man i'm 40 i'm almost 47 dude i mean

54:45Shawn French:I'm getting there, man. I'm 10 years older than you, man. Crazy. That's crazy. It's awesome. But I mean, you don't look 57. Thank you, buddy. You don't. I mean, I thought you were. 56 and a half. Okay, cool. No, no. I'll take it. I mean, I thought you were, you know, 48, 50.

55:02Patrick Dearborn:Listen, you know why I share with you that little, we won't go into today, but just to sit here right now. I mean, my journey could have ended back in 1968, man. So, by the grace of God, I'm here. I'm trying to get through this day and not disappoint my creator I'm trying to be better in a variety of ways I don't want to fall short I'm sure but what did you just say don't give up don't surrender be determined keep plugging away every morning no matter how I feel no matter what life's throwing at me no matter what Satan's whispering in my ear I'm not worthy enough I'm not good enough I'm a failure I got to take that leg drop it out of bed depending on what side of the bed you sleep on I'm on the left side so I got the left leg out and I still lay there for another second or two where the alarm goes off

55:59Shawn French:well dude I didn't get out I didn't roll out of bed until 4.09 I laid there for nine minutes it felt like two seconds how many alarms went well? just one I only sat one

56:08Patrick Dearborn:so you only hit once you don't hit snooze but you still lay there without falling back asleep Yeah, I did.

56:14Shawn French:I didn't fall back asleep because, because here's the thing about my keys going back because every five minutes, because here's the thing about commitment, right? It's like I set the intention the night before and everybody can, you know, say, I'm going to go to the gym in the morning. You know, if you're going to go to the gym in the morning, you know, if you're going to get up in the morning and read, you know, you're going to wake up in the morning and make your kids lunches or, or drive to seven 11. You've already made that determination. So stop lying to yourself the night before and make the commitment.

56:42Shawn French:like make the damn commitment so for me it was just like there's no falling back asleep because my jiminy cricket is firing constantly right it's just that's okay that's me go yeah um i can't wait

56:55Patrick Dearborn:to be back here a year from now i'm gonna see a bunch between now and then but and see this podcast going to even greater heights man so super excited to see all that's freaking awesome

57:04Shawn French:yeah i like to get tied with the community a lot more too i want to get out there and i want to do some live shows and i want to we'll get you plugged yeah i want to get plugged in man i love to do something at seat to table, I think that'd be really fun. I think that'd be really fun, man. I just, I just want to keep doing what I'm doing. Me and Colin will make that happen, man. We'll get you on there for sure. Let me ask you one more question. Go ahead. I guess I could literally talk to you for like a thousand more hours. This is such a great conversation. Wow. But when we talk, we've been throwing the word determination around a lot, right?

57:35Shawn French:You know, but what is your definition of of determination what does it look like for you it's it's deeper than people think because it's not gritty it's not sexy determination to me means a couple things one

57:52Patrick Dearborn:doing things the right things even when nobody's looking and the lights aren't on and the newspaper is not there and the iphone's not recording it for social media and yet i'm still being the best me I could be. That's a determining attribute. It also means never surrendering, never giving up. And that's just woven in my fabric. Look, I'm an abortion clinic survivor, meaning that by the grace of God, and thanks to my birth mom, I could have been wiped off and thrown into a trash can back in 1968 in Washington, D.C. And the guy had another plan for me. So ever since then, And I've been, and I found out about that even before I found out about that.

58:37Patrick Dearborn:And my birth mom found me 53 years later. I still had this thing instilled inside me, which was a never give up, never surrender attitude and a determined attitude of, I want to make everybody around me better, encouraging, et cetera. I've always been that way. And I've always felt blessed to God for whatever reason, being stabbed, being shot, being through, going through windshields of cars, spending the night in jail. All those things have happened to me. And those are all things that God put me through to make me always feel like, man, God has given me so much, so many blessings. I'm not rich.

59:17Patrick Dearborn:I don't ever want to be rich. I've never asked to be rich. What I ask to be is just, I'm fat, is to give me the ability to speak and to be able to praise him and to give thanks for everything he's given me. And he knows my heart. now look i'm a wild man it is it is what it is god knows only god knows but i'm a wild man yeah but god knows my heart and my heart always wants to do things for other people regardless of who's around who's looking and that to me is part of that determined thing but again being an abortion clinic survivor and being here by the grace of god gives me a perspective, very unique, um, and very determined to keep pushing forward, to not feel sorry for myself ever and to make sure and be determined that I make everybody around me even better.

1:00:12Patrick Dearborn:And that's, that's my definition.

1:00:13Shawn French:I love it, man. You know, because determination isn't about the hustle culture, right? No. You know, and when I first started, that's flashy. It is flashy. It's click me. And look, man, I fell into it at the very beginning. You know, TikTok. It's neat, but it's not sustainable. And, you know, determination to me is just doing what you said you were going to do long after the emotion wears off. My good friend, Dan Tuffarello, he was my boss at Paychex, turned into one of my best friends ever. We still talk constantly. Is not enough, though, actually. Not enough, Dan.

1:00:51Shawn French:the true definition of commitment to him was doing what you said you're going to do long after the emotion wears off and I commitment determination resilience is all one big ass umbrella it's like if you can still move forward every day no matter if it's a little bit right because some days are going to be better you're going to have bigger leaps and bounds you're going to feel like an Olympic triple jumper yeah someday you're lucky to get in someday yesterday I'm like, oh man, you know, I, I can't even really function very well today. It was a frustrating day, but the cool part about yesterday was, and I want to share this with you.

1:01:24Shawn French:I want to share this with the audience. It was the first day in years I was able to do parent pickup line for my little one. And so I said to my wife, I'm like, Hey, that's awesome. Do I pick her up for aftercare or, or parent pickup? I'm like, and she's like, well, preferably I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, I got, I got some things to do. She goes, you're always going to have things to do. Can you not pick her up from parent pickup? Or do you just want more time to do some things for work? I said, you know what? I'm going to do parent pickup. You're right. Great job. Thank you. She's amazing, dude.

1:01:59Shawn French:She's, I mean, she sounds, she holds my ass down, bro. But I, you know, so I picked, I picked her up and I took her right home. And, uh, you know, I immediately I did the shower routine with her, did her hair, brushed it. Then we read her book for school. Then she did her math and then she helped me grill burgers. Wow. And then I took her to Culver's to get her little mini mixer. Yeah. And then we played sorry when we got home. Wow. And then it was just almost amazing to me how easy it was to get her down for the night at 715. She was out. She, I cuddled her. She put her chest right here. And I, I, I stayed there until, you know, she was asleep.

1:02:46But, but dude, that day, like I needed that day with my littlest one.

1:02:54Shawn French:I, I needed it so badly. And I didn't even know. Yeah. Like, I just, what a, what a great day it was. So the day, the, the daytime was stressful. I didn't get everything I wanted to get done or I don't feel like I, but I moved forward as a human being and as a, and as a father yesterday. And, you know, and that's determination. It is. You know, because there's all a bunch of little sticking points. Like, I don't know if we should play sorry. And she wanted to do all four, all four colors, just us two. So the game of sorry was like a damn game of Monopoly. It took forever. She ended up winning.

1:03:27Shawn French:She won both. She won both.

1:03:29Patrick Dearborn:So anyway, that's not like the best, the best day ever though. So, right. So, you know, Colin and I talk, he goes and picks up his kid. I miss that. There's been days when, because my son's home, my youngest, my son's graduated from college. He's home right now trying to figure out his next steps. And he's written some great scripts. He's got a minor in film and a degree with honors from Florida State University in finance. All his heart and passions, film and writing scripts. I'm blaming him. I've registered already with the Screen Actors Guild. So anyway, we'll see how that journey takes him.

1:04:01Patrick Dearborn:But the point is, there's days when I would give any amount of money, any big real estate commission, any accolades, anything, to have just one more night of coaching him in peewee football, peewee basketball. One more night of playing a board game like we would play Stratego, which is me against you like a chess game with bombs and generals and different ranking people. and are just, we still watch movies together, but I miss those times when they're young like that. So I'm glad to hear you're cherishing those moments and that you're determined to never let that go to make sure you're going to make time.

1:04:40Patrick Dearborn:So what I heard is your determined society moment is and your pledge to yourself is, I'm going to always make time for your kids. And I love that. That to me is really the biggest thing you can do. It really is, man. And again, you know, to clarify. No amount of money, no watch, no car, no podcast guests, no nothing will ever play.

1:05:01Shawn French:And I do the breakfast, the snacks, the lunches, the dinners. Like I'm, I'm, you're there. I'm there. You're present. I'm home.

1:05:08Patrick Dearborn:By the way, doesn't mean it's easy. No, right. Because life and you trying to blow up the determined society and all that stuff is not easy, man. It ain't easy for anybody in this room. No. That's what's cool is we got to always remember everybody's in the same rat race. Yep. So we got to lean on each other, man. Iron sharpens iron. It's okay. I tell somebody, man, I'm really struggling with, I hate car line where I sit there and bumper to bumper traffic to wait for my kid. It drives me crazy. And the lady outside is so slow. This is me, not you. Back in my day. I would like, I would always have to pee in parent.

1:05:39Patrick Dearborn:I want to get out of car line and reorganize car line because car line wasn't moving back. Exactly. That's me. Have you ever had to pee in car line? Yes. It's the worst, bro. Horrible. It's, it's like the worst pain ever. You know what my problem is? What's that? I can't mind my own business. So I got to get in everybody else's business, including the car line people. Why can't they run a better job? Why can't everything run like Chick-fil-A drive-thru? Yeah, man. It's the best run drive-thru operation in America. Why can't School Line run like that? Why not? Why can't Chick-fil-A go conference them and teach them and train them how to run a school line?

1:06:09Patrick Dearborn:Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A. Or another show.

1:06:11Shawn French:Oh, man. Well, dude, thank you. John, you've been awesome. Thank you, brother. Thanks for having me. It was a pleasure. For those of you watching, go check out my boy, Patrick Dearborn. All the stuff will be in the links in the show notes. Go check him out doing some amazing things. amazing friend. I thank you so much. Thank you, bud. And until next time, guys, stay determined.

1:06:55Shawn French:So, want to drive? CarMax. Pickup not available everywhere. Restrictions and fee may apply.