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Podcast Episode Notes: How Jeffrey Delaney Is Rewriting the Rules of Men’s Health
Podcast Overview
- Title: The Determined Society with Shawn French
- Description: A podcast that uncovers the core truths and cultural perspectives of celebrities, authors, and athletes, focusing on human stories and societal conversations.
- Episode: How Jeffrey Delaney Is Rewriting the Rules of Men’s Health
- Main Guest: Jeffrey Delaney, founder of T Clinics and Nuviva Medical Weight Loss.
Key Themes and Concepts
- The Importance of Men's Health
- Mental and Physical Health Connection:
- Movement and physical activity serve as effective antidepressants.
- Mental health is deeply intertwined with physical health; imbalance in hormones can lead to emotional instability.
- Understanding Hormones
- Testosterone and Hormone Therapy:
- Testosterone levels decline with age, leading to loss of drive and motivation.
- Hormone therapy can significantly improve emotional stability and mental clarity.
- Nutrition and Fitness
- Nutrition as a Foundation:
- Nutrition accounts for roughly 80% of health outcomes.
- The correct nutrition plan, combined with exercise, is essential for effective weight loss and overall wellness.
- GLP-1 Medications:
- Medications like Ozempic and Tirzepatide can assist in weight loss but should not be used as a standalone solution.
- They can lead to muscle loss if not combined with proper nutrition and fitness routines.
- The Modern Man's Identity
- Challenging Masculinity Norms:
- The episode discusses the stigma around masculinity, emphasizing that masculinity is essential for family and personal balance.
- Men's identity is often linked with societal expectations and self-image, which can lead to struggles if not addressed properly.
Key Takeaways
- Mental Clarity:
- Achieving true health involves both physical fitness and mental clarity.
- Four Pillars of Lasting Wellness:
- Sleep
- Nutrition
- Training
- Mindset
- Avoiding Comparison:
- Comparison can derail progress; consistency and small wins lead to transformation.
- Starting Wellness Journeys:
- Begin with manageable goals and gradually implement changes to avoid overwhelming oneself.
Discussion Highlights
- Personal Stories:
- Shawn shares his experiences with mental health and physical fitness, detailing struggles and triumphs in his journey.
- Support Systems:
- The importance of community and accountability in health journeys, as emphasized by both Shawn and Jeffrey.
- Practical Advice:
- Start with simple changes in diet and exercise to create a sustainable lifestyle.
- Avoid the "all or nothing" mindset that often leads to burnout and discouragement.
Expert Insights
- Hormone Balancing:
- Proper hormone therapy should be personalized, as improper dosages can create more problems than solutions.
- Women’s Hormone Therapy:
- The recent removal of warning labels for women’s hormone replacement therapy is seen as a positive step toward better health management.
- Body Composition:
- Understanding that a healthy physique is not solely defined by weight or body fat percentage; mental and emotional well-being is crucial.
Conclusion
- The episode emphasizes the need for a holistic approach to men’s health, combining physical, mental, and emotional wellness.
- Listeners are encouraged to take small steps toward better health, emphasizing personal growth and community support as vital components of success.
Connect with the Hosts
- Shawn French: [Shawn French on Linktree](https://link.me/theshawnfrench?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaY2s9TipS1cPaEZZ9h692pnV-rlsO-lzvK6LSFGtkKZ53WvtCAYTKY7lmQ_aem_OY08g381oa759QqTr7iPGA)
- Jeffrey Delaney: [Jeffrey Delaney on Linktree](https://linktr.ee/jeffreydelaney?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=71805b10-8bcf-4b2e-9837-d25110fcc659)
This episode of The Determined Society explores vital conversations surrounding men’s health, hormone therapy, and the challenges of modern masculinity, providing listeners with valuable insights and actionable advice for their health journeys.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00I remember being at John Huffman's event and I saw you from the corner of the room and I didn't say anything to you because I was too embarrassed to talk to you. Because of the way I looked and the way my mind was at that time, I was so distraught. I was an emotional wreck. One of the best antidepressants you could ever do is physical movement. You preach on determination. You preach on having it all together. But unfortunately, when you get busy in life, a lot of things tend to go on the back burner. I was literally on the couch, in a blanket, hiding from the world. You age, your T levels get below a certain point.
0:35And you lose that drive. You lose that motivation. You lose just who you are. You get frustrated with the world. Just all stress compiles. What happened quickly for me, going through your programs and listening to you and your staff was my mind woke up. I became less angry. We all have crap in our life for things that have happened. But when you're not healthy, you're eating bad, and you're not sleeping, it magnifies it tenfold.
1:07What's up, everybody? I'm here today with my good friend, Jeff Delaney. He's a founder of T-Clinic and NuViva. And a lot of times I've spoken over the last year about my journey with getting back in shape, being healthy mentally and physically, and how it's done tremendous things for my show and my business side of it. And, you know, so today I have Jeff Delaney on and man, I'm just so happy to have you on the show finally. And bro, you've changed my life. And I just want to thank you. Man, listen, you know, that's the least I could do. That's kind of what I, why I do what I do is to just try to hopefully make a positive impact and more than just my close fear of people.
1:43So like seeing a friend actually kind of get back on track and, you know, I'm excited. Just thanks for having me first off, because your show is crushing it, man. Like you're doing so good. It's a blur, but listen, you know, it's, it's, but I see you, you're just pushing it further and better. And just, just, I'm excited to see where this thing keeps going. Dude, you and me both, man. I was just sitting here and we had this conversation yesterday on the phone. It's like pushing it so much. It can get, you can start to go backwards a little bit because it's like, you know, when you get so busy and you're constantly filming, constantly doing something, you know, the other side of it does tend to suffer, you know, like the five days in the gym turned to two days, maybe to three days.
2:24And it's just super inconsistent. And so the one thing that I love about your businesses, new Viva and even tea clinics is the, the community portion. It's the, it's the accountability and the things that I get to do on a weekly basis going in there, which I said off air, I need to get back in there. You need to do that. Like I'm committing to it, but. Well, I'm excited. Listen, not just for that, but to get Sean to the 3.0, I always like look forward to that portion. Yeah. And we'll talk about that. Yeah. You know, but that's the thing, dude. Dude, it's like you've, you've taken me and cause people, you know, listen, I had this show on discipline and determination, right?
2:59And I've said it a thousand times, but never with you, you know, in front of the microphone, like I had this brand that I was selling, which is determination and discipline, like I said, but the only place I was displaying that was in the show. It was, I looked a fat mess and I'm not saying that you have to be in great shape in order to be successful. But for me, my mental was, I mean, there was, there was moments that I couldn't get off the couch unless I was filming. And it's so funny. And I don't know if I've told you this story yet, but it, it's about you. Okay. And it's about you. And I remember being at John Huffman's event and I saw you from the corner of the room and I didn't say anything to you because I was too embarrassed to talk to you because of the way I looked.
3:47And the way my mind was at that time, I was so withdrawn and even scared to talk to people that I knew. And then you grabbed your lunch and you came up and you're like, Hey, what's up? And then that's when it started. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people, like, obviously, if you know me, I'm, I'm the, I'm the last person to judge someone. And just to kind of give you some grace too, on what you just said, you know, prior to that is like, you know, you, you preach on determination, you, you preach on like having it all together. But unfortunately, when you're get busy in life, a lot of things tend to go on the back burner.
4:20And it's like you kind of it's you're never going to have perfect harmony or balance like they're never that when you're trying to really focus on something or grow something. So you just got to find like where can you get some consistency? And like I said, if if your exercise or your training, you know, because things are so busy, go to the back burner. You just tweak the plan. You adjust it. So you got to still put in some effort and some work. but it's, it's common. You're not the only person, trust me. I I'm in this business. I've been in this business forever. I've done this my whole life.
4:51And there are seasons where my stuff goes to the back burner. So I, I just, and you know, and that's something we need to talk about is this, you restructure that plan. So it fits your life and fits your current schedule. And then once you get past that season, you readjust per like how much you could put into it. So you just find a little bit of balance, even though there's never going to be a hundred percent imbalance. The thing that, that suffers for me, and that's what I really want you to dive into for the men listening and for even women listening and watching to help their husbands or their, their young sons, maybe in their twenties, thirties is the thing that really went south for me is my mental state.
5:29Dude. Again, I want to go back to those moments where I was literally on the couch in a blanket, hiding from the world. And the only time that I was present was on camera because I was so distraught. I was an emotional wreck. And what happened quickly for me, going through your programs and listening to you and your staff was, I changed my nutrition. I started getting the treatments. I started getting consistent with my TRT replacement therapy. I started doing those GLP ones. And I do want to touch on those today because those aren't a Pangea. They're not a cure-all. You got to, you got to work while you're on them.
6:10But the moment I started implementing that routine, my mind woke up. I became less angry. I, and I'm sure, because you, we've been friends for a long time. My show used to have a lot of fillers in there called the F word and a lot of anger coming through. And then once I was on week one, that started to go to, I can remember the last show that was riddled with curse words. That was the Joe Pavich episode. And then shortly after that, it started just to go like this in a good way where I was being more articulate. I was having better conversation. I didn't need those words to express how I felt.
6:49And you were a big part of that. I appreciate that, man. man. Well, you know, I think one of the biggest things for both men and women, more so men, you know, we get past a certain age and I think hormones is probably the biggest anchor in the water for a lot of people is like, you know, you, you age, your T levels give it below a certain point and you lose that drive. You lose that motivation. You lose just who you are. You kind of, you know, things bother you more. You get frustrated with the world. Just all stress compiles tenfold when your hormones are right now there's a flip side of that you know obviously taking too much or you know not being dosed properly you could create some other problems as well but true hormone therapy or i always say you know hormone balancing when you get that right especially for a guy like that kind of halts the deterioration process how we are physically mentally emotionally it's just it has such a positive cascade effect in people's lives to get your hormones balanced.
7:46Um, and like you said, you probably were tired, lethargic, frustrated with the world. Things bother you that probably would have never bothered you before. And it's like, that's probably one of the biggest anchors I think for guys is, is getting that done right. Because once again, you've done hormone therapy, sometimes therapy done wrong. It's good for the short haul. And I always kind of use car analogies. It's like when you redline a car, it's fine, but eventually things start to break. And so that's kind of like where no matter where you go, or if you ever get hormone therapy, just make sure they're, they're being specific to you because that's where it gets better as you age versus good for the front end.
8:23And then kind of things start falling apart if you're not managing it appropriately or dosing it appropriately. So, you know, I think for you, that was one thing that would just needed to be tweaked was get your hormones back in line and you see just your mental state, your, how you are emotionally starts fixing then kind of you you know as a cascade of that is you know you get motivated to get back to do the things you want to do i think a lot of guys when their hormones are off they put in the work or they try to put in the work they go to the gym they exercise but they get very little roi because the hormones are tanked and it's like you're like well shoot i'm putting in the work i'm doing a b and c and i'm not seeing anything come from it and and that's kind of where a lot of guys get frustrated and they're just like, F it.
9:07And, you know, I think there's a lot of noise too, right? There's a lot of noise on the internet. There's a lot of every single fitness coach you talk to, every single clinic you talk to has a different, I guess, viewpoint on what proper nutrition is, right? Like I remember when I was going carnivore for so long, I felt the best, but then someone's like, well, you need at least your brain needs at least 120 grams of carbohydrates, a day to even function. Like you're killing your brain and that's why you're getting sick. And I, and I'm not saying that's wrong. Right. But for me, the best I've ever felt in my life was when I was the modified carnivore, right?
9:44I was doing a ton of protein and I was doing fruits and I felt amazing, but there's so much noise. I mean, there's men listening right now. They don't know what to do that because it seems so big, right? Cause they look at that where they're at right now and they want to go straight forward to that end goal, like that, that Sean 3.0 or that, that, that Jeffrey 3.0, whatever, whatever their name is, they want to go straight to that. And they have to understand that, look, this is a process and you need to go on small wins. You need to have the right meal. Then you need to go to the gym and then you need to have another good meal and stack these wins.
10:20And then all of a sudden at the end of the week, you're like, oh my God, I'm down five pounds. This is fantastic. Now I keep it going. But like, what would you say to the man that is just so confused right now? It may not have the support available like a NuViva or a T clinic, someone that they trust. Cause I think that's a big thing. But the other side of it is too, like there's a lot of monetary restrictions for, for men and women in this world right now. What would you say to them to be like, Hey, this is where you start. If you can't do all this, this is what you should do. Honestly, that's a great point.
10:50Um, I think first off with the world we live and you just said, you know, there's the information overload. And I think a lot of people tend to now it's like, all right, well, this guy's telling me to do this. This person's saying, go in carnivore. This person says, go keto. This person says, I have to have 120 grams of carbs. You know, people get paralysis by analysis. And, and, you know, I, I feel bad for a lot of the people find a resource of information. First off, that's pretty consistent and accurate because unfortunately there's a lot of inaccurate information out there, especially through social media, um, in the, you know, and then going into like what you were talking about, you know, I, I hate when somebody goes all in overnight.
11:29I'm not a big fan of that. Like I like, let's, let's look at the food, you know, and for me, I always say 80 % is nutrition. I mean, that's going to change your life drastically. Right. So let's try to get a little bit better with the food. Let's maybe move a little bit. Cause if you go all in, it'll never stick. It's never going to be a lifestyle change or a habit. So, you know, I like to just almost like I use analogy, like put the frog in the water. Let's just turn up the heat over time. And then you end up picking up those proper habits. You're, you know, eat a little bit better. You start stacking those small little wins and those little wins over time is going to be a big ass win.
12:05It sure is, man. Just most people don't have, you know, I, I, I always, I used to see it all the time. Clients would go like, it's the new year. I'm going to go up the new year, new me. And they go from zero to 60. They freaking go from eating like complete crap to like something super, super strict. And they go to the gym and they're putting in five or six days a week and they get results. But then eventually sometimes going too hard works against you metabolically. They get stuck and then they're putting in the work. They're not seeing the ROI. And then what happens? They have a break. They give up.
12:40And all of a sudden, next, you know, they're in a worse off position. It's almost, you know, they rebound harder. They, they metabolically, they mess up their metabolism. So, you know, if you're looking to get started, start by, you know, getting consistent with your food. You know, one of the best things you can do is just make sure you have minimum breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And we'll talk because some people could do three meals, three snacks. Some people could do three meals a day. Some people say, I want to intermittent fast, which there's depending on the person in the place, you know, there's a place for it, but just get consistent with meals.
13:09Try to start cleaning up some of your food. You know, I always say every meal should have a little bit of protein. That should be a staple of your diet that's going to maintain muscle. It's going to help you kind of body composition change. And start just with a little bit of tweaks. Maybe get away from some processed food to more whole foods. Good. Now let's go, okay, what can you do per week? You know, if you want to do, you know, strength training, maybe we're going to do three days a week. And just build your schedule that. Get that traction. Get that snowball going. And then as you feel better, you function better, you know, then you start adding a little bit.
13:44But I would rather you do it over time to where it's, it's not so drastically different than what you're going to do and make sure it fits your schedule. Cause if it doesn't fit your schedule, there's no way in how you're going to keep doing it. It's true, man. And the one thing like, and I think men and just women, humans in general can relate to this as your schedule gets busier. Cause I'm experiencing this. Like there's moments where I like, I haven't had enough protein today and it's almost noon, right? I'll go home. I'll do a protein shake, head to the gym. Right. And then, and then after that, I'm like, oh gosh, like, you know, so what happens is when, when I'm underfed the whole day, you know what happens at night?
14:23Like I, dude, all I want is chocolate. Like all I want is cookies. And I'm starting to fall back into that. I had like one and a half cookies last night. And for you guys, oh, one and a half cookies is bad. No, I'm talking crave cookies. I mean, I'm going to be real. Like I had 700 calorie dense cookie. Yeah, dude. I mean, like it was a good ass cookie, but like I woke up this morning and even though oh, I slept, you'll be proud of me. I went to bed at 8.30 last night. I woke up at 6.30. I had like almost 10 hours of sleep, but I'm still not feeling good because of what I put in my body afterwards.
14:52So like, I just, I really want to focus on that too, is like, how can we get those cravings to subside in the evening time? One of the best and easiest things you could do is never let yourself get to the F-it point when it comes to hunger. And that's the big problem. That's why, you know, most people over the years would come in and they're not eating all day. They got busy in life, kids work school and they started missing meals. And then what happens is you get to the evening time. You're so hungry. Your willpower goes out the window. I don't care. Listen, if I did that, we've talked about this before.
15:26So, you know, don't ever let yourself get to the hunger effort point. And that's, you know, easiest way to break that is have consistent meals. Now you're going to say, well, I'm busy. I got this going on. You almost have to plan, you know, at least plan your day, have quick, fast little things that you could take with you, a protein shake, a protein bar, um, you know, it just have something on hand. So you worst case, if it's something quick, it's something is better than nothing. Plus metabolically, you know, a lot of people, I think over the years have fell into like intermittent fasting and they turned intermittent fasting into like, I'm not going to eat all day.
15:58Cause that's what I'm already doing. And then they crush food and, and there's so many disadvantages to that. So, you know, I'm, I'm a, of the thought, like small frequent meals, if you can, you know, just basic breakfast, lunch and dinner make sure you have a good high protein at breakfast which will set your day to be in a good spot most people could at least someone get a breakfast going you know try to have something that if you're busy have something quick fast midday but never let yourself get to the hunger effort point yeah is number one um you know whether you're having carbohydrates or no carbohydrates you know that i think that for a lot of people the more carbs you eat you tend to want more carbohydrates um you know to go back to what you were saying too is like oh you should you got to have some carbohydrates, we could live without carbohydrates.
16:42I prefer like more ketogenic slash carnivore. Um, I just think a lot of people depend on your overall goal. If you're a high level athlete, you probably need carbohydrates, but if you're an average person living, like probably one of the best things you could do is keep your, your carbohydrates low, your simple sugars low. Um, you know, there's data after data and studies that, that support that all day long. I wouldn't eat that way if I didn't feel that that was probably one of the best ways as far as keeping your overall carbohydrates simple. Now there's a time and a place where I love sprinkling them in and we did it with you is even if you're going low carbohydrates, I am really big into bookend the workout time with some carbs.
17:22So you could actually replenish and kind of support what you did in the gym. But outside of that, you could live without carbohydrates. You can't live without, you know, certain things, but well, you can use. That's the thing, dude. And I think it's different probably for everybody, but I was thriving on that plan. Like I did, I felt very energetic and you know, it was high protein, high fats. And it was just every morning I was just waking up leaner and leaner and leaner. And it's hard to just switch to your point and go all back in. So for me right now, like, you know, I did have some bread this morning and I had some eggs, you know?
17:59So for me, it's like super important to, to start going, okay, high protein, high protein, the rest of the day to get back onto of that track because you know all i know is if i do it for like three days i automatically tighten up now because there's that baseline but for the man listening that doesn't have that baseline now it takes they need little like i always call like the blowing up the balloon right little little pieces of motivation and drive because we know motivation is going to fade and then the discipline and determination has to push you through but like i keep thinking back to when i started the hardest thing for me was to go to the gym looking and feeling the way I did.
18:39No one's looking at you. No one cares. Yeah. They got more important shit going on. Yeah. People have more, they're, they're caught up in their own shit. Trust me. But like just going and doing it and not worrying about how you feel like the next day you're going to feel better. I don't know where I'm going with this, but I just feel like those things need to be said because even though, I mean, I'm probably up 10, maybe 15, but if I go to the gym, I still feel strong. You know, like I feel much stronger, but at the same time, I still struggle with, man, I just don't look and feel the way I did.
19:16I have, you know, you see my point, right? It's like, I got to get back on track. Yeah. You know, kind of to touch on that too is one of the best antidepressants you could ever do is physical movement. And once again, like it's, it's funny how I see a lot of things now are coming to the market. I mean, I've been in this space 25 years and more from a medical standpoint, 20 years. And like, but there is no better thing you could do for your mental health than just move. Even if it's something so simple as taking a walk for the day, don't tell me you don't feel better after you do it. So, you know, I think that's a thing, you know, I always said the four pillars, you know, when it comes to just overall like health across the board, your sleep, which is a game changer.
19:59If you could do it, I actually used to, that was one of the pillars I lacked on for years. just because I was grinding and I'm building businesses. And like looking back, I would have prioritized sleep better just because that's, you know, our body fixes the damage we cause during the day, hormones, everything across the board. If you're sleeping like crap, your life's going to suck the next day on all levels. Your nutrition, eating a little better. I'm not saying eating chicken and broccoli, but like having, you know, a staple of protein with the meals, you can fill it with the macronutrients.
20:29Plus if you do that, you have less of the other stuff you probably shouldn't have. you know your nutrition obviously is a big one I always say that's 80 % when it comes to aesthetics or body composition you know as far as physical movement you know that's going to be just just getting active three days a week I mean personally I try to do something every even if I don't have time I'll try to do like a 10 minute you know like you could do burpees or something just to move yeah you'll feel better about the little bit of activity you did for the day and then last is mental health, you know, and that's a big one that, you know, it depends on what you got going on in your life, previous, you know, situations in your life.
21:09But a lot of times, if you get feeling better about you, yourself, your body composition, you're, you're going to be okay. Um, you know, and, and there's a lot of that, I think weighs into a lot of the mental health side. Like you, there, we all have shit going on. We all have crap in our life or things that have happened, but when you're not healthy, you're eating bad and you're not sleeping, it magnifies it. It's bad. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. And I don't, I don't think you've read the book you may have, but Prof G wrote this book, newer book called, excuse me, notes on being a man. And what he really talks about is, you know, his early stages of being a father of two boys and, and going through things.
21:49And he just talks about how men these days in the way society is, it's, it's men are not being, I don't want to misquote him, but it's harder to be a man. Yeah. Right. And then when a man doesn't have relationship, like a woman can not have a relationship. Like he saw a clip with him talking on the view, like he, a woman can have a cat and she's fine. Yeah. She's fine. She can go dive into the relationships with her friends, but a man needs a relationship because without relationship, men start turning to other vices like porn, um, being withdrawn on technology, uh, diving into conspiracy theories.
22:25And we see that, you know, and that's never, it's never good. What are your thoughts on, you know, how your business and, and your, your, your overall plans can help men with that problem? I, you know, I think it's one goes back to, you know, them from a system standpoint, you know, hormones being balanced, um, just kind of doesn't let a lot, a lot of that other stuff compile, having some, some discipline and what they do have a support system behind them like guys we need positive reinforcement or positive affirmations and you know i feel like if you don't have you know any type of like whether it's a relationship with your buddy or your wife or a girlfriend or you know it's like we need kind of to have that positive like interaction with people and without it like you said like we tend to we kind of go in our little hole we kind of become a hermit and next you know you're addicted to other things or you just, your, your attention span goes to things that you probably shouldn't focus on.
23:25So, you know, I feel like for us, it's, you know, we look at, it's going back to your self image and, and how you feel about yourself. And then ultimately, if you could get back to where you feel yourself, obviously hormone wise, you feel like a man, you know, it sucks though. Cause like a lot of times in the world we live today, they, you know, regular masculinity has been coined as toxic masculinity. Let's go there. And so, you know, I think a lot of guys like a man's man's consider toxic now, which is so not now you have the toxic masculinity, but it's not even close to what people coin toxic masculinity as today.
24:00So, you know, I kind of add that shirt, toxic masculinity. It's my favorite one, by the way. Yeah. I actually got a new one coming out. So I got you on that. So, you know, but it's hard because like, you know, guys of our past, you know, like back then, like they were the provider and the father and the husband and like, you know, just, just. overall was, we're a good male. Um, and now it's like, you, you know, you have women like coining that as toxic or groups coining that as toxic. So it's just, you know, it's sad. Um, but you know, just getting us our, ourselves back to, to just be in the provider and the leader and, you know, just, just, well, he talks about that too.
24:38Yeah. He talks about that. Like it even goes into saying that, you know, since the 1980s men through 20 years old to 24 year olds, unemployment and lack of, you know, college education has tripled. Yeah. It's tripled. And like, he also goes into say, and I want your, I want your take on this. If the man is not okay, the family struggles, the kids, I believe that. And like, I'm, I'm sorry. Like when I struggle, it's not good for my wife it's not good for my three beautiful children yep i agree 110 you know i feel like you know we're supposed to be kind of leading providing setting the example you know obviously fathering our kids a certain way you know i feel like when guys are not even good themselves they tend to not be in a good example for the kids or they just get less involved with the kids as a husband i feel like once again if they're turning to other things because they're you know, um, self, how do you want to say it?
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25:39I don't know why I'm drawing a blank on it. Like as far as like their, their, their personal self image, you know, and it's like, now they're not being that, that, that husband and that man of the house to be able to lead the house and, and kind of keep things, you know, in check, you know, so it, it definitely compiles on the marriage and the kids. And, um, it's just, but once again, it's, it goes back to the guy, not feeling good about himself and you don't have to be you know sick pack abs and you know just crushing weights and you know just but but i think you know getting back to the fundamentals of being a man and a father and a husband um is almost a must and if not you definitely will it's probably going to end up in a broken marriage or divorce you're not going to have a good relationship with your kids because you put a lot of stuff on the back burner because you just don't you end up not feeling good enough to do the other stuff you should be doing.
26:36But I just, I'm glad we're talking about this because when I think of what he was saying about if the man's not okay, the family's not okay. And there's groups, like you said, that are, that are really vocal in combating that. I don't need a man. I don't need a man to do this for me. I can do it myself, which they absolutely can. I'm not saying that, but you know, I think in a family environment, it is super important to get back to the roots of the family structure. and when i'm okay i can handle extra activities i can handle extra asks when i'm not okay i melt down and sometimes the way you react to that react is the right word to to the wife or to the kids yeah yeah and then that's just those are like little things that cause damage to to that family environment that family relationship as you as you age um you know not for nothing man as a man if I'm not doing that stuff, I feel less of a man, you know, and that compiles on you as far as, you know, like, dude, that's a great point because I've been really working on my training schedule.
27:41I really don't want to go at 4am anymore. Cause I don't have to, you know, but I'm still caught in this weird quandary. Like if I don't go at 4am or 5am or whatever it is, I normally go schedule takes over my schedule takes over. Or if I don't, I guilt myself. And then I'm like, okay, well now I got to go and I got to fit in this workout. Also get dinner prepped. Also because we have my daughter's kid strong tonight that I know I'm going to all these things stack up. And it's just almost like, oh my God, it's really pointed. Like, dude, you're just not prepared right now. This is all on you. And this is, I mean, that's a, probably a big problem.
28:19Why guys try to put an unrealistic plan to their schedule. and then when they don't hit it they almost beat themselves up and that makes things worse so you know i kind of what i talked to you about the other day is like i love catching up and it's hard because i don't get to see a lot of clients after you're my friends so yeah we're gonna we're gonna dive in a little bit deep but you kind of just you need to look at your schedule you need to see where where it can happen and where it can't happen and then you once you know like all right per two days a week or three days a week or five days a week like where your gaps are that you know are going to be pretty consistent because you you should have somewhat consistency obviously with the family and kids sometimes the kids stuff takes over and so you're there's gonna be times you have to drop um but figure what that basic looks like and then how can i optimize that basic time that i could put in and and let it fit your time and your schedule like i do a lot of like circuit work so my workouts are 25 minutes you know luckily i lately i used to go at 4 a.m and And I, you know, over the last probably eight weeks, I started, I was still taking my son to the gym and working out with him.
29:22And now I'm kind of at a point where he, and yeah, I don't want to push him because sometimes kids push back. I was like, you know, if you want, I'll work out with you. And you know, it's not as hard as I'd work out, but I'm getting that family time, that father son time, but I'm also killing two birds with one stone. So like now I have him working out with me, we're kind of bonding and doing our thing And I'm able to make it fit versus getting up at 4 a.m. And then if I didn't get up, because, you know, and I have such a short period of time in the morning, then I'd beat myself up about not being able to go.
29:53And then I was taking him, but I still wasn't training. So, like, you know, just find what your schedule looks like. And it's going to be, it's going to, it's going to move as you're going. Like, you're going to be in a season right now. You're crushing it on the, on the, as a father, as a husband, as, as Sean French. You know, it's like, let's, let's find out where it could always happen. and we'll change that in a month. Yeah, it's funny because like, I didn't mean to interrupt, but like for me, I always go back to, I don't have to go at five in the morning, but it's probably best that I do because if I don't, the day takes over.
30:27A phone call could happen. Something last minute that can frustrate me and then I'm stuck putting out a fire and then it's like, I don't have any, you know, what am I going to do? Live for, you know, it's 15 minutes away. that's a half an hour out of my day so like there's a lot of games that i can play with myself later on in the day whereas i really can't do that i know if i go at five la opens at five i can live from five to 5 45 be back at the house by six and then i can help get the kids ready and then i'm refreshed yeah right but you know it's just getting back into that i don't have to i can technically go when I want, but is that going to serve me the best?
31:09And I think that's something for each individual. And I'm starting to understand that it actually might serve me better because it's going to force me to eat better. It's going to force me to get good sleep. I'm up at four. I'm out the door by 445. And it's done. It is done. That's what I liked about it. But, you know, I've kind of, if it wasn't for my son, I would just, I would go early because If not, my schedule is going to take over. Plus you kind of, there's something to be said, man, me going physically doing something in the morning, my day goes so much better. Oh, hell yeah. It does, dude.
31:43Crushed 10 times more things than I would do if I just try to roll into a regular day. You're productive. You're rolling, dude. One of the biggest things that I want to get into is I think there was a big component of GLP ones in my treatment that were very, very successful. But I also want to touch on that because a lot of people think, okay, I'm just going to take these GLP ones, these, those Zempics, those Zepitides, whatever it is. And that's it. What can happen to somebody if they just take it and they don't work out, they don't eat well, what are some of the dangers? So I'll tell you, man, with GLP ones, it's crazy where that world's gone.
32:15You know, a big farmer brought that to the market. It was, you know, semiglutide or Zempic or Wigobi was, you know, brought originally for type two diabetes. there's glp ones have been around forever like you have way back in 2014 15 lira glutide doula glutide there you could go back to even further before that they just not not any one glp had the results that ozempic did and what happened so ozempic you know came to the market they were going through their 60 some week trial and you know people lost a crap ton away i mean it was crazy amounts so like they're looking at this like holy cow like you know what's going on here why is this one producing well glp1 slow down gastric emptying so you you know you end up kind of food doesn't move through your stomach as quick so it does control your appetite um it occupies the glp1 receptors in the brain and there's a lot of studies even for like the addictive portion of your brain what glp1s can do and they saw quite a bit of that with semaglutide which is those them picker will govi will govi just class for weight loss and that's kind of what how they after they saw we're using it for diabetes but now there's a market for weight loss they just renamed it right um but but that glp1 had such a pronounced effect on like gastric emptying gastric slowdown people were not feeling as hungry they were satiated early in a meal and so a lot of those people lost a lot of weight but the problem and i would say with the glp1s of poisons in the portion because a lot of people have taken diabetic dosing and lost a crap ton of weight but all they did different it was basically they were on a starvation diet it got them to the point where they didn't think about food they didn't eat it just enabled them to starve and you know hence the ozempic face and the ozempic butt because it's muscle loss it's not from that particular thing but it allowed them to starve and that starvation created those problems and you know unfortunately i'm having to clean it up now over the years because you know they've progressed from semaglutide to terzepatide, which is partially GLP-1 with the gastroinhibitory peptide, just helps the pancreas better.
34:19And then you have, you know, soon to be out on the market stage two right now is reddit trutide. And a lot of people keep class in that as like, it's going to be better. I'm actually going to do a breakdown video to show like, it's not that it's better. Each one has their own little properties and it depends on the person and how you apply it. unfortunately the world's just been taking diabetic dose one shot a week scale it double it after a month and what's happened is people have starved a lot of weight off and they're metabolically damaged no different if they did it without a glp it just made it a lot easier for them to do that yeah and so they're malnourished they lost a lot of muscle tissue the metabolism's in the dirt now what happens when they stop taking it what happens when they start eating food though and i'm already seeing it like people are rebounding and gaining a lot of weight because they didn't focus on nutrition they didn't have the foundation set right nor even if they did per the way they were dosed they probably wouldn't have stuck they would have just not ate and so the poison is definitely in the portion with that i think they're amazing so they are peptides they're you know peptides are chains of aminos or sequence aminos that initiate response in the body to happen that sometimes don't happen as we age medical condition um lifestyle and so with a lot of those, you know, those peptides, they, that helps the pancreas, it helps carbohydrate metabolism because it was meant for diabetes and fixes A1C and insulin resistance.
35:42Um, but by taking too much, a lot of people in the world have been able to just starve. Yeah. Yeah. Done. Right. You know, and I, I'd like to think we probably have applied it the best way over the years. I mean, I used to use duluclutide and liraglutide wasn't nowhere near close to, you know, semiglutide or trisepatide, but you know, it does quiet the food noise drastically. Um, definitely kind of kills the addiction portion of the brain. So like people that are having like addictions of certain things outside of just food get better, but it's allowed me to give people the dietary discipline to, to a plan.
36:18And ultimately the vehicle is going to be the food is forever going to be the food. If you think it's anything else, like you're, you're going to be in a bad position, but it's allowed me to get people to actually adhere to a plan. and and so we adjust it very specific to the person but the poison is in the portion with that stuff and i think that's why the world gravitated to it because i could take a shot and i'm not going to eat i'm not hungry and i stopped doing all the stuff that was causing me to be overweight but you know taking too much or done wrong without the proper vehicle you'll see some results you're gonna feel better but you're gonna probably have some issues you know i think yeah and i don't i know you were asking like about the people just to go to that like you should be screened you should make sure you don't have there's certain things medically that you should be checked up now i'm seeing like you know tanning salon selling semaglutide and it's all over the internet you know so just be cautious um you know i think the biggest thing with that is the application has to be done a certain way and if done right i'm gonna say this and i hate medications probably one of the most remarkable things for me to allow someone to stick to a plan And I've used over the years, low dose phentermine and it would quiet the food noise and it would actually control their appetite.
37:30But this one's working so differently and you're fixing a lot of things like insulin resistance, you know, the, you know, metabolic, how, how things are processed, lipid metabolism. You know, it's allowed me to do things much, much faster and, and hopefully get people to that end goal and then teach them how to reverse out of that the right way. I just think, thank you for that. And then thank you for educating the audience because for me, it was more about, you know, really diving into how to properly, properly utilize these in your, in your plan, your day to day, because a lot of people are just taking that as the, the, the cure all shot and they're not lift, they're not lifting.
38:08Like you said, Ozempifates, they're Ozempic butt. Ozempic butt. You know, I think I have Ozempic ass. I call that Nassadol. No less at all. More squats. Yeah. But the thing is, like, it deteriorates your muscle. Because if you're starving, your muscle's going to liquefy. It's gone. Yeah. Right? So you may be losing muscle, but it's, I mean, fat, you're losing weight. Yeah. But you're skinny fat at that point. So what's the difference? You're still not confident in a bathing suit on that vacation with your family. And that is a big part of men's mental health, too, is, and even women. And I want to touch on women real quick, but feeling confident, feeling lean, have good body composition.
38:47What's the point of losing all the weight if you're losing your muscle too? Right. Something big happened recently. The FDA is removing all warning labels for women's hormone replacement therapy. What is that? What is your thought process on that? You know, I'm a proponent. I love hormone therapy for men or women when it's needed. Number two, done specifically. Guys are pretty simple. We can manage guys, manage the testosterone, manage the estrogen. We're simple. More ways than once. Women are much more complicated with their stuff. And so, you know, I've seen the boom over the last probably five years in the space that I'm in.
39:22You know, a lot of people are starting to offer female hormone therapy. And I think it's amazing. You know, usually women early in life, sometimes they need just a little progesterone in the 40s, maybe some testosterone, progesterone after, you know, postmenopausal, probably all three with estrogen. but with that you have to be super careful because you got to worry about cervical cancer uterine cancer breast cancer and unfortunately it's not just like a guy like take some tests and you're better yeah like there's byproduct that needs to be managed and if not managed right it opens up the door to some issues but that study you know i think a lot of females have been worried and most providers have put it out there over the years that like no you don't want to touch hormones because, you know, breast cancer, you know, ovarian cancer, there's so many issues linked with.
40:09It was one flawed study from a long time ago. You not managing your hormones is worse than you manage them and keeping them homeostatic. And so, you know, I think it's a step in the right direction. I still think for females, like that's a special skillset and it has to be super precise if you really want to get the good and mitigate some of the bad um that's something that you know females definitely make sure the provider is well trained because you know there's it's not just take this and here we go it's take this and then other things adjust so you need to treat it all the way down the line so i do always put that caution they're done wrong could create problems yeah so you know i but i but i do think it's a step in the right direction i think that um them removing that is, is, is great.
40:58Should have been a long time ago. Yeah. I mean, I'm seeing it all over the, the, you know, social media apps. Like, you know, people are speaking out about it saying, well, this is actually good. Like this is going to help women. It's going to help, you know, postmenopausal. It's going to help a lot of different things. So whereas before it was kind of demonized for them, I believe. Yeah. No. So I, I think there was, once again, they put it as like, this is a big no, no. Most providers would never even touch it. You know, even over the last, I would say five years, you know, if you got maybe your OBG, OBGYN, that would understand it and was willing to kind of go outside the normal box and start treating it.
41:34But no, like, you know, once again, it goes back to keeping yourself homeostatic for females when things are off, especially just even at an early age. I see a lot of females like in their 30s, progesterone's off. They got anxiety. They're not sleeping as good. um testosterone women need testosterone too just for their drive how they function sex drive mental clarity same things that we need testosterone for uh just making sure they don't need as much as we take yeah you know i want to do that yeah so uh and then estrogen you know i think that's a big one where a lot of people get scared because like you know they're like oh you shouldn't take this because your estrogen is going to be off and that's going to create cervical cancer uterine cancer, breast cancer.
42:14It's once again, not if you do or don't need it, it's what do you specifically need and getting things once again, homeostatic, that's the recipe for longevity and health. I agree with that. Cause I can remember, you know, like even, you know, my wife would get blood work done and like, Oh no, you're fine. And she goes, well, I don't feel fine. You know? So like, there was a lot of providers that are like, I'm not treating you like you're fine. Your blood works great. She goes, why am I so tired? Why am I going through this? Why am I going through that? You know, and it's like, like, like, listen, women need the homeostasis too.
42:45They need to be treated. Yeah. No, I say that's the biggest anchor. Guys, women or men, no different. If hormones are off, it's probably the biggest anchor in the water to how you feel, how you function, how you sleep, the results that you get. So, you know, I think it's nice that there's people are starting to pay attention. You know, I, it sucks because a lot of the providers were never taught that they, they got a small little bit of endocrinology in in college and then whatever their specialty was they just kind of stayed in that path and then even endocrinology you have a lot of them that understand it did it but they were not taught that's treated specifically and so or a lot of times insurance won't cover it they won't touch it i mean for a guy if you come in and you're at 299 on your testosterone and just we'll just use a reference range of quests if it goes 250 1100 it's normal they're gonna look at you like sean you're fine you're okay you're normal but that's they did that to me yeah they did that to me i mean like my internal medicine doctor's like oh you're at 250 you're fine i'm like jeff yeah like is this good and you're like bro get in i see it all the time but unfortunately like with insurance they're not going to touch it unless you're clinically deficient well there you were having symptoms and issues well before you were clinically deficient most guys i'll tell you i very rarely do i see guys in that are like sub 250 on a testosterone but it's you know there's kind of certain markers where you could tell like this guy's probably and it's not always just a lot of guys think with testosterone it's sex my sex driver my erectile function like that's such a small piece of it it's it's your mental clarity your motivation you know just at your sleep everything it literally is is once again it's this thing it's you know we're kind of like a old school wood wagon wheel and if one piece along that wheel is chipped we're riding like shit and so it's like you know making sure you're kind of even in that wheel out across the board not just testosterone or not just growth hormone peptides or not just sleep it's it's kind of like a it's a it's a complete wheel it's interesting i had my buddy on i'm gonna say it because like we talked about on my show so i know it's safe uh larry hagener that edge podcast awesome dude man like amazing fatherhood platform and he sat in that seat last week and he talked about his doctor calling him and said you need to get in your blood work came in we need to talk he was scared he's like what the heck he goes your testosterone level is way too high he goes what is it he goes it's 900 and he's he's 50 he goes are you doing trt you need to stop he goes i've never taken trt so even doctors nowadays get a blood work from a man and if their testosterone levels at 900 saying that's not good right like we got a screen we got to we got to check you for cancer it's like what it's like dude yeah well you know and it's unfortunately they you know a lot of times they don't even look at symptoms or like per this you know how do i fix this or how do i put a medication on this versus like going to the root and working backwards but you know i always look at it as like what is optimized what is what is ideal you have normal markers but where should it be where are you going to feel your best where can i get you to be your best without creating other problems as well and so but most weren't aren't trained that way yeah i mean shit i wish i had a natty you know 950 900 that'd be sweet that'd be i messed mine up a long time ago but that's the thing for for his range though um or for his age i mean And that's probably per whatever lab, it probably came up high.
46:20And it's still okay if prostate's not, you know, you're not having issues. There's no, you know, he's doing his annual prostate exam. PSA is normal. If you're not seeing like crazy stuff happening, like blood thickness and blood volume. But once again, they don't, there's, oh my God, what's going on? I mean, to me, that's a win. I was like, damn, 900? That's great, man. Thanks for coming on, dude. It's been awesome having this conversation with you. I look forward to continuing my journey with you guys and, you know, getting you to stay on my ass. Well, I think we will regroup this week. We need to.
46:56We need to. Well, no, listen, you need to do that. Like, I'm going to make you do that. So it's just, whether you want to, like, I'll still message you. Like, but no, like it's, let's just, you know, I, and I think a lot of guys don't reach out and they just, they don't ask for the help or they don't, they think it's fine and I'll deal with it and I'll push through it and I'm fine. But ultimately it's not fine. Yeah. So like, but I try to simplify it. Let's, let's break it down and let's just make it fit. So it's consistent. Yeah. I will, I will say this, dude, I had somebody comment on one of my YouTube videos, man.
47:32And this is, this is kind of crazy. I'd never heard this before, but they said. And looking at you, you look like just a normal gym, bro, with all the muscles. Then you opened your mouth and I realized how smart you were. It's like, I've never had that before. I'm like, wow. Like at first I was offended. Then I was like, wow, that's kind of a cool compliment. Right. I'm like, does that what people perceive me as? And, you know, for the guy struggling, that's what I also want to bring it out to. Like right now I'm not feeling my best, but there's probably a lot of people looking at me and going like, dude, you look good.
48:00And you're the goal. You're the, you're somebody's goal guys. You know what I mean? And what you have to understand is what matters is how you feel and what you can do to move yourself forward every single day. You need people in your life like Jeff that are going to help hold you accountable, know what you're capable of and strategically get you there. Yeah. Right. But also with some damn empathy, because like I'd never felt out of place at any, either one of your clinics. I'd never felt like I was being judged by anybody. It was always like this. Every time I would come in, it was like, damn, like you even look different than you did last week.
48:33Like what's going on? This is fantastic. It, it's a community. So for those of you that are, you know, listening to this show, man, throw a Google search, T-Clinics, man. Like check out my boy. They do, you do ship across the United States, right? Uh, yeah. So I have certain clinics that are set up for out of, out of state. Um, you know, that's kind of been a big thing over the years. There's a lot of telemedicine places, but you know, I think we still try to go specific to the person, which a lot of them are just mills. um but going back to what you said just real quick i want to highlight on that like you know comparison will will crush your happiness and run your own race yeah let's set goals per you and and let's tackle those goals and let's stack wins and and ultimately you'll be surprised when you look back it's just you know i i think a lot of people just in the world we live listen i do it with like social media and you see other businesses and once i stopped trying to compare myself to somebody else and i'm just gonna run my race and you know what happens happens i yeah that was like a big thing for me too and i know we're running short on time but like i think i set my goal a little bit too egregiously your expectations were high so high dude i mean listen it's nice to have those b-hag goals right big hairy audacious goals but you gotta set i'm a big into like let's small mini goals and if we start crushing those mini goals like said they it almost gets contagious and it compiles over time it's like just if you set it one big ass goal it's you you'll probably just might as well give up now well that's what was happening because like you were measuring me on a caliper at seven yeah and then i would go to the dexa and have my world freaking crushed and so like that's one thing that i need help with you on i want i want you to help me re-establish a goal on a dexa yeah maybe it's 18 maybe it's 15 you gotta remember dex is always going to be to a decimal point everything like you know i'll tell people out there is like your measuring tool should just be a tool to track progress please just let it be a tool to track progress you know one of the most accurate would be a dexa scan but whether you're using an impedance a four-point impedance a two-point impedance a caliper caliper is only pinch and sub q and depend on where you hold it it's going to read different so i always say that's not like the end-all be-all metric unless you are doing a dexa so dexa like if you're going to do a dexa that's probably the best and work off that for a goal but i think the world has been um especially with decades with dexa a lot of people like oh i'm like six percent and you're no you're not no you're not no you're 12 on the dexa 11 yeah right now i'm probably about a 12 on the dexa because like last time i heard you're maybe like a 10 or 11 yeah i think the lowest i got no i did do a dexa um a couple years back before i got my own dexa um old machine not kept up to date had me at like a 5.9 i'm like there's no way in hell i was probably on my decks and i was probably maybe nine and that was pretty lean yeah um but i was also like my life was very there was no balance right yeah exactly there's no balance in that and that's the thing like this time around like i'm really going to need your support with it's like what's the right goal right like what how do we manage that?
51:48Cause I am the way I am. Like, I'm not going to come off of certain big hairy ass goals like you're talking about, but it's like really managing it to the point because I think that's where I fell off. It was like, okay, like I'm never going to get the 12 % on a DEXA. I'm just, I'm done worrying about it. I'm never doing one of these again. And in the meanwhile, meanwhile i'm wearing a large shirt and i still am but i had train tracks running up and down my arm i was vascular and i'm pissed about a dexa where you're you know and you're one of the most skilled because people say like calipers you got to watch out for you know because there's a lot of margin error i'm like not with this guy like like every time we were doing it you had to like hold on let me pinch again but i remember i would tell you too like per this percentage if you take get to a deck so you're gonna probably the leaner you are there's less variance from a caliper to a dexa the large you are especially depending on the calipers the sights like i do a nine sight when we do we do one but there's a lot of room for error on that but also once you get that caliper that's not your true body like usually i always say even on a low low end you might add five or six percent to correlate it over to a dexa yeah so like when you're like three four on a on a caliper you know and that's like super lean nobody should get there unless you're like that's all you do on a day-to-day basis yeah but you know like take me a three you'll probably be at eight nine right but as you get larger that might be a seven eight nine ten from a caliper to dex there was a larger variance right because i was a seven and i think it depends on where you hold it if i'm pinching you in areas that you don't hold a lot of body fat only a couple of them came up yeah i could take the next guy who might be fatter in other areas that aren't getting calipered and he's going to caliper much much lower so or caliper much much higher and look completely different so once again it's a measuring tool um no matter what tool you use stay consistent with it and use that just as a gauge but don't sit there and let that affect how you how you go about your goals i always look as like let's look for the wins and my building muscle and my dropping body fat and whatever device or tool we're going to use let's stay consistent and work off that yeah it's a good point man well Thank you.
54:04We'll get this train back rolling. For everybody, check out my boy Jeff, T-Clinics, New Viva Weight Loss. If you have any questions on how to optimize your hormones or even be homeostatic with your hormones, drop them a phone call. And until next time, guys, stay determined.
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In this powerful episode of The Determined Society, host Shawn French sits down with Jeffrey Delaney — founder of T Clinics and Nuviva Medical Weight Loss — to talk about what really happens when men lose their edge.
Jeffrey breaks down the myths around testosterone, hormone therapy, nutrition, and popular GLP-1 medications like Ozempic and Tirzepatide. Together, he and Shawn unpack what it means to be a modern man — one who leads with strength, vulnerability, and consistency — while challenging the stigma around masculinity and self-care.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, exhausted, or unsure how to get back to feeling like yourself again, this episode will show you where to start and how to take control of your health for good.
Key Takeaways
-True health isn’t just physical — mental clarity begins in the body.
-Hormone balance can reignite drive, motivation, and emotional stability.
-Quick fixes like GLP-1s work only when paired with movement and nutrition.
-Sleep, nutrition, training, and mindset are the four pillars of lasting wellness.
-Masculinity isn’t toxic — it’s essential to family and personal balance.
-Comparison kills progress; consistency creates transformation.
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