How Justin Colby Built a Real Estate Empire From Rock Bottom

14 Sep 2026 · 1 h 1 min · 30 chapters

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In short

Justin Colby explains how he rebuilt after losing everything during the 2007–2008 real estate crash, emphasizing determination, clarity about what you truly want (happiness), aggressive daily effort with “aggressive patience,” and removing time expectations on results. He also discusses ego, the “messy middle,” and aligning wealth with health/longevity.

Guests

Justin Colby (real estate entrepreneur; built a real estate empire after rock bottom; teaches from “scars” and focuses on determination mechanics and KPIs like calls→appointments→offers). Host Grant (shares parallel story: agent/real estate background, couch/Starbucks survival, and later audience growth).

Key claims

“There’s no finish line”; overnight success is not real. Most people quit because they don’t want it enough or lack clarity. When backed into a corner, there’s “one way out: forward.” Ego was the biggest cost in 2024. Clarity can be found through quiet routines (e.g., daily cigar/quiet time) and patience.

Notable examples

28-year-old rock bottom: car repoed, house short-sold; living on a friend’s couch; making 100 phone calls/day (90 hang-ups, 2 Starbucks meetings) for nine months. Coaching investment: friend loaned $100k for coaching; after two calls, they shifted strategy by increasing offers/deal flow. 2024: worst year financially; friend Kent Clothier confronted him about needing transparency; he posted “war stories” and regained momentum.

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Chapters

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Overcoming Adversity Through Determination

2:36 to 4:25

Justin shares his personal journey from rock bottom to success.

“Bro, I am smiling so big right now because this is literally the first time we've ever met.”

The Five Laws of Success

4:25 to 7:54

Discussion on determining what you want and overcoming self-doubt.

“And I don't mean rough like I was homeless and sleeping in a car, not quite there.”

Aggressive Patience and Long Obedience

7:54 to 9:49

Justin emphasizes the importance of patience and focus in achieving goals.

“The deciding what you want is so hard for people, right?”

Persistence and Breaking Through Challenges

11:38 to 14:00

The hosts discuss the journey of persistence and overcoming negativity from others.

“Downloads went from four, which was my family.”

Emotional Support and Pride

14:00 to 14:40

Discussing the emotional impact of support from friends and family.

The Painful Journey of Building an Audience

14:40 to 15:36

Sharing the struggles and timeline of growing a podcast audience.

“You want your people to be proud of you.”

Investing in Personal Growth for Success

15:36 to 16:41

The importance of personal development in achieving business goals.

“Because I had to invest for 10 years before I saw it come back.”

Navigating Parenthood and Entrepreneurship

16:41 to 17:31

Balancing family responsibilities with entrepreneurial aspirations.

“I'm kind of taking care of my parents and raising kids at the same time.”

The Pressure of Being a Provider

17:31 to 19:43

Exploring the pressures men face in providing for their families.

“Because, and I've been seeing it on social media, and I don't do those things, the trendy things, because that's just not who I am.”

Financial Struggles and Accountability

19:43 to 20:41

Reflecting on financial hardships and the importance of honest friendships.

“They carry the child, they give birth, their bodies change, their hormones change.”
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Vulnerability and Authenticity in Business

20:41 to 22:16

The power of being transparent about challenges in entrepreneurship.

“So 2024 was by far the hardest financial year in business, even worse than when I was sleeping on the couch.”

Determination in Adversity

22:16 to 23:35

Motivation to push through tough times when faced with obstacles.

Learning from Rejections and Failures

23:35 to 26:06

Understanding the value of persistence despite rejections in business.

“People that have achieved more than you, that have gone through the shit you've gone through and made it out, that make more money, that are more successful, they're not going to go snicker at you or talk shit about you.”

The Importance of Metrics in Business

27:25 to 28:00

Discussing how to measure success through key performance indicators.

“You know, that's interesting because when you're talking about numbers and offers, it all breaks down to KPIs.”

The Journey to Entrepreneurship

28:00 to 29:48

Justin shares his early experiences in entrepreneurship and the challenges he faced.

“Now, by the way, we were excited to make$100 a day back then.”

The Necessity of Determination

29:48 to 31:36

Justin discusses the importance of determination and pushing through adversity.

“one first, decide what you want, and then you need to figure out who you need to be to get what you want.”

The Power of Being All In

31:36 to 32:59

The idea that being in a situation with no options can drive success.

“I think if you get yourself in a position of there's no option, you will achieve great things.”

Redefining Happiness and Success

32:59 to 35:34

Justin critiques societal definitions of success and emphasizes personal happiness.

“I have a buddy who swears by the person who's the most busy in your company is the one you give more stuff to.”

Finding Clarity Through Reflection

35:34 to 37:06

Justin shares his process for gaining clarity in life and business decisions.

“want is to be happy and that might be different for you than it is for me but it damn sure doesn't mean 6 ,000 square foot house makes us happy.”

The Importance of Quiet Time

37:06 to 40:07

The discussion revolves around the value of quiet time for personal growth and clarity.

“And whether I heard it, felt it, I just, I got clarity on how I wanted to rebuild again.”

Navigating External Influences

40:07 to 42:01

The conversation highlights the need for self-awareness amid external pressures.

“Like the first couple weeks was not like an easy feat.”

The Importance of Vulnerable Groups

42:01 to 43:42

Learn about the value of having supportive groups where transparency and vulnerability are encouraged.

“But having groups that you can learn from, that you can be vulnerable with, like part of my requirement to get into the room is you have to be transparent.”

Health Journey and Weight Loss

44:37 to 46:01

Hear how personal health improvements can impact overall success and mindset.

“Don't go yet because people need to hear this.”

Longevity and Financial Planning

46:01 to 48:30

Explore the importance of planning for longevity in health and finances.

“And by the way, I would argue I'm not as concerned about my food.”

Ego and Personal Growth

48:30 to 50:38

Understand how ego can impact personal growth and the journey to true alignment.

“And by the way, I'm literally talking a lot about this, and people will say, I don't know, I throw some shit in stocks, and I bought a short-term rent.”

Continuous Improvement and Goals

50:38 to 56:00

Learn the significance of ongoing growth and setting higher goals beyond the finish line.

“I was totally blinded by my ego and I lost track.”

The Importance of the Journey Over the Destination

56:00 to 56:54

Learn why appreciating the journey is crucial for true success.

“I don't have, and I've made that mistake.”

Personal Stories of Overcoming Adversity

56:54 to 58:00

Discover inspiring tales of resilience and transformation.

“And so, and again, I think there's chapters and seasons where everyone should be recreating themselves anyways.”

The Reality of Overnight Success

58:00 to 1:01:28

Understand why overnight success is often a myth and the reality behind it.

“And I'm listening to him and everything he's been through.”

Defining True Determination

1:01:28 to 1:03:04

Explore Justin Colby's perspective on what real determination means.

“And now there's this meteoric rise, but it wasn't overnight.”
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0:00Justin Colby:You know, it's interesting when you have nothing to lose, you're the most dangerous person on the planet. I couldn't pay my cell phone bill. They took my car. I will go to the end of the earth to figure this out. So you're building your business thinking you want more. You don't want more. You want to be happy. Do you think that's a lack of clarity of what they want? You brought up ego. Is that the biggest cost? A hundred percent. They just don't want it bad enough. What I believe is God cut my head off for a reason. I was totally blinded by my ego and I lost track. I may have lost more in 2024 than I did in 2007, but it's all relative, man.

0:34And if I got through that, I can get through this. It may not be the last time you go through something. It's like I'm going to build more fucking mountains. Like I got to keep going. You need to understand that there's no finish line. A lot of people want that finish line. They want to know that they've arrived. The overnight success is not a real thing. It takes time.

0:49Justin Colby:You need determination to get to where you want to go, but you first have to decide what you want. and then you got to commit to it.

1:06All right, boys, real talk. There's a moment every guy has. Mine was scrolling through old photos and going, wait, when the heck did that happen? My hairline's creeping back and you may be telling yourself like I did, it's just the lighting. It's not the lighting. Another funny thing is when my kids started pointing out the fact that I had all these bald spots all over the top of my head. The amount of bald spot I have was massive, and now it has shrunk to about that big. I decided to do something about it, and it enters LockLab. It's one pill every day, every morning, nothing else, just done.

1:39No more denial phase. But if you're in mid-denial phase right now, I see you. So all you got to do is go to locklab.co, fill out the form to see if you qualify, and then bang, ends up at your doorstep.

1:50Justin Colby:I want you to imagine being a 25-year-old. You got everything going for you, and then all of a sudden, the brokerage you're running in Northern California shuts down in the middle of the market crash. No car, no money, no place to live until a friend offers you a couch. And on that couch, every single day, you make a decision to make 100 phone calls every single day to strangers. 90 of them hang up on you. Eight of them give you a small conversation, and two of them agree to meet with you in a Starbucks. I got a man next to me on the show named Justin Colby that is here because he understands the mechanics of determination and what it takes and what it costs you.

2:29He doesn't teach in theory. He teaches from scars. And with that being said, Justin Colby, welcome to the show.

2:36Justin Colby:Bro, I am smiling so big right now because this is literally the first time we've ever met. We've been having a blast. and you have memorized my startup story. Your startup story is amazing. Dude, I'm like grinning ear from ear. This is like, I'm probably red. Like, this is awesome, bro. That is amazing. The thing, and we'll get into it, man. I don't want to get too far in the weeds, but your story is my exact story. Really? So I was 28, watched my car get repoed, short sold my house. No way. So you were on the broker side. Well, I was an agent. Yes, I was. Yeah, yeah. I was on the mortgage side.

3:21Mm-hmm. I lost everything.

3:22Justin Colby:Yeah. So when I started reading on this last night, I'm like, wait a second. This story is way too similar because I also met people at Starbucks and I leveraged the freaking hell out of the free refills, dude. Dude, stop it. I think people think I'm lying when I tell my story. I'm like, guys, I'm not lying. It was free. You sit in there and you just say, I need another. Boom. And I still do it. And I can pay for this shit now. Like, hey, can I get a refill? Yeah, but there's$7. So give me some more free. Yeah, seriously. God dang, man. But it's funny because in those moments where you lose everything, I can remember looking in couch cushions for change to buy the first cup of coffee.

4:12Justin Colby:That's it. So your story, man, really resonates with me. But let's start at the beginning. You know, have you always been a determined individual or is it something that you had to build along the way? I think it's a great question. I think there's something. My childhood was rough, right? And everyone has their story, right? So this by no means is a woe is me. And I don't mean rough like I was homeless and sleeping in a car, not quite there. alcoholic parents mom dad and stepdad you know showing up at home after school my mom's passed out on the kitchen floor that kind of stuff right so i just found myself well i gotta figure this out at a very young age and i had to navigate some very awkward scenarios like i'd bring a friend home after practice and there's my mom passed out on the couch at 4 p.m and you know i'm like oh she's just napping no she's drank a fifth of vodka she's passed out right um and i'm navigating some of these things and so i think very early on without knowing it i created what i would call this shoulder shrug mentality and it leans into this whole idea of being determined because like you go all right well i got to deal with it yeah okay like so what now what i'm gonna so what now what what do i do right and so um the nba finals just passed last month and um i've always been a big athlete you and i both grew up in the bay area playing baseball and all these things and so i'm no longer able to watch as much sports as i want to because i have two little kids i have a five year old and a two year old and i like to be a great husband and i like to and so i caught a glimpse of some of the finals and it was new york and it was this big thing right because they haven't been in 50 years yeah so the point guard jalen brunson i would catch his interviews and it really it kind of shook me to its core because who i am as a person is what he said and he said something that i think even went viral when i reposted it which was they were asking about how they lost this game critical moments big mistakes all these fit you know mistakes they made and they said something like how do you feel about it and he's like no i thought about it and i replayed it in my head and then it went out and did something about it and it gives me shivers repeating it because that's the only option you got like what do you do you go do something about it so i've i've developed this shoulder shrug mentality as a kid because i didn't have any option about whether my mom or dad or whatever we're going to drink or if my mom was going to show up at my practice and throw keys at my coach there's just stuff like that right you're just like all right so that happened right so what am I going to do about it yeah and so you know the the foundation of all this is my personal my internal fortitude or personality towards struggle strife embarrassing moments challenging moments all right what am I going to do about it right and so when that happened to me probably naive enough to really not really care no kids no wife no nothing so I was like free enough to be like all right well i'm gonna call my buddy and sleep on the couch not ideal but yeah um it was like all right rebuild time like figure it out and i didn't love being an agent i don't know if you loved being a loan broker i felt like i was just my i was unique because i was selling new homes because you and i were in the new home build phase and made probably a lot of money and it was amazing until it wasn't until it wasn't yeah and uh you know it was like I don't enjoy this.

7:46Justin Colby:So then it was the, okay, who do I want to be? And then I have a whole thing that we can go on there. But there's what I believe would be five laws of success. And the first one is you got to decide what you want. The deciding what you want is so hard for people, right? Because they know exactly what they want. But then they play this game with themselves. Like, can I even do this? Let me go ask somebody. And that somebody says, you're crazy. Don't do that. do something super stable because all they're doing is just projecting their own limiting beliefs onto you that's right i would challenge everybody watching and listening that they do know what they want they just have to be brave enough to go freaking chase it down yeah and do it like you did yeah do it like i did get the shit kicked out of you and get back up and do it again tomorrow yeah but you don't know what the next phone call is going to bring that's right and And it's funny you say that because I say something.

8:45Justin Colby:So in my five laws of success, the fifth law, in my words, is remove all your time expectation on the result you're trying to achieve. That's massive. Go into that for the audience because they need that. So I have a coach, Ben Newman. You may be familiar with Ben Newman. So Ben just poured into me. Him and I were going back and forth, and he wasn't even my coach yet. I had him on my podcast. and then we just vibed out and you know he was like hey dude i got this program i'm like i'm in bro you are phenomenal but one of his best things that he really ingrained in me is he took my saying of removing the time expectation on your result you want and he called it um have extreme focus in the same direction with aggressive patience so long obedience long obedience again remove the time same direction which goes back to what do you want with aggressive patience fight every day all day no matter what but be patient on the result giving being handed to you or achieving it so i love that and here's why there's nothing that has ever been built people think i'm an overnight podcast host i've had a podcast since 2013 i have thousands and thousands, maybe tens of thousands of episodes right now.

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11:50Justin Colby:Three years ago. Finally. Downloads went from four, which was my family. I remember that. I remember those days. You know, 40 ,000 and then 60 ,000 and then 100. But everyone's like, bro, how did you do that? I'm like, oh, I just kept going when everyone else quit. I didn't do anything special. And now we just talked about it. I'm about to interview what I believe to be my biggest idol in the space of entrepreneurship, Gary V. He came to me. I didn't go call him. I didn't go. I'm not paying him. but it's because I just kept going when everyone else fell off. There's so many lessons in that, right?

12:28Specifically, the aggressive patients. Because I can tie this back in 2022 or 2023. I said, I looked at my wife. I said, I'm going to be out of corporate America by this date. Let's go. And I was wrong. It was another year and a half. So that must have been 22 because I didn't get out until 24. But when I didn't hit it.

12:55Justin Colby:It started to spiral down. I spiraled down. I ain't shit. I'm never going to make it. And I had my, I drowned in the, in baseball terms. I drowned in a pool of my own piss for that whole evening. And my wife looked at me and she said, it's okay that you're doing this right now. But tomorrow morning. Lick your ass back up. That's it. You do what you do because you love it. and if you keep being yourself, you're going to break through. And of course my answer at that, you don't understand, that's not the way this business works. She was right. Because I did break through. And it wasn't because I was doing anything special other than showing up and continuing to do it when the peanut gallery was laughing at me.

13:39Justin Colby:Because they did. And you know who the peanut gallery is? It's your closest friends and family. 1 ,000%. Which is so hurtful for a lot of people. yep and i just i get i go back to my shoulder shrug like i just go okay go ahead all right you know i mean yeah like go for it but it's always nice on the back end when because my closest friends weren't like that but i mean it was the friends that you're close enough to yeah you know what i mean and in the family yeah like i think it was like a year ago my mom said how do i how do i listen to your podcast i'm like well geez mom i could have had like five more downloads by now or listens like come on but no it's that way and and now i hear from one of my best friends that i play ball with at lsu just texting me and saying how inspired he is by what i've done and how he's so proud of me when my homie text me yo dude i'm proud of you like i get emotional yeah Because that's everything.

14:41You want your people to be proud of you. But yeah, man, it is painful at the beginning. And we've talked about off air building the audience. I mean, you're 13 years in, I'm almost six. It was painful, man. And for the first, and I was talking to Will about this earlier at lunch, the first three, four years was just practice. We didn't make a dime. Oh, it's all out of pocket. You're paying to do it. Everything. Yeah. Everything.

15:06Justin Colby:Yeah. And we just started monetizing in December of 2024. Last year was modest. This year it's exploded. Exploded. And partly, and the nice part about that is just right time, right place, right? So for me, it wasn't. I ate shit for 10 years. I basically started a business of podcasting and just fronted it for 10 years. Which if you listen and look around to any entrepreneur that's done anything great, like be ready to just lose money for a very long time. A long ass time. Long time. If you love it enough, you'll stick with it. Frankly, although now it is a monetization point for me, I'm nowhere near what I've already invested in it.

15:41Justin Colby:Because I had to invest for 10 years before I saw it come back. So it's interesting. And this is where, to the determined society, it's like, how bad do you want it? And this goes back to my first rule, which is decide what you want. Because then the next part of deciding what you want is you need to become the person to achieve it. So let's say you want to go make$10 million. who do you need to be to make 10 million dollars because this is the law of the lid right there's a lid if you want 10 million dollars the version of you that's making a million can't reach 10 million the version of you that needs to reach 10 million needs to work on yourself to get to the 10 million so then your business can get to 10 million but people don't look at it that way they're like oh i hit a million so now my next goal is 10 well what are you doing on you to get yourself to build a$10 million a year business because now you've got to be a leader.

16:33Justin Colby:You've got to manage people. You have to lead people. You have to be... It's just a different version of you. The other thing that you've got to think of too is who do you have to get rid of? Oh, yeah. 100%. That's come up a lot lately. It's been a year of cleansing for me. Oh, yeah. Is that a year for you? It's been that year, dude. Those are tough years. The hard middle, man. You know, the messy middle. The messy middle is a thing. And here's where I'm at. I have little kids. I'm kind of taking care of my parents and raising kids at the same time. And I'm like, what is this? Like, it's a weird phase.

17:05I'm 45 and I'm just like, man, right?

17:09Justin Colby:Like, it's kind of this thing. And so it is an interesting, interesting spot to be in our age. It's true. And I can relate, dude. I mean, I'm not taking care of my parents, but I have a 12-year-old son, 9-year-old daughter, and a 7-year-old daughter. Like, I know what it's like to be a dad and do what we do and be an entrepreneur and have the weight of, am I doing enough for my kids? Am I a good? Okay, let's talk about that. Because, and I've been seeing it on social media, and I don't do those things, the trendy things, because that's just not who I am. But I love to see them. I don't hate on them, but I'm not going to do them.

17:44Because I'm not going to, if someone does something like that, I'm not going to rip their idea and do it. Because to me, that's not authentic. This is my own. Everybody else, go ahead. But there was this video of this dude in the gym just working his ass off. And it says, them, you're such a great dad. You're so successful. And it says, me, am I president enough? Am I president enough? Am I doing enough for my wife? Am I a good dad? Am I losing my temper? Am I providing enough? And the list went on and on and on and on. And people don't realize what goes on behind a man's eyes every single day.

18:22Justin Colby:that's powerful it's very it's very true i struggle every day with this yeah like two days a good example right like yesterday well yesterday was a great example my soon-to-be pre-k kid is you know meet the parents day and it's at 10 a.m and i'm like i would love to be there i just have meetings and i have things that i do like i wish i was just wealthy enough to never have to deal with that um but it's a very real i never know if it's enough like when i do have to be stern and punish and like is it right should i be handling it different like there's all these books and everyone has an opinion but like you just fight with that am i providing for my wife the way that she needs me to provide for her it is um and i'm not saying let me say this way i think what men go through is vastly under respected relative to the female rhetoric around being a mom giving birth you know taking care of kids we don't we because we are the voice of us don't talk about it enough it's very difficult yeah and i honor what women go through of course and you do too.

19:43And you're not saying that. They go through a lot of things. They carry the child, they give birth, their bodies change, their hormones change. They go for perimenopause and they go through menopause. We have our own things too. And a lot of it is shouldering. Am I providing the right way? Am I loving my wife the way she wants to be loved? Am I missing a 10 o 'clock at meet the teacher? And if I choose not to go to the meeting, what position am I putting my family in if I don't get that deal because now our whole lives can change financially. And I've got all this thing to pay for. You live in a very good part of Miami.

20:16You told me where you live. I'm not going to say it, but I know where you live. And I know what that means. You have a responsibility to uphold that for your children, not because they can't live without less, but because you experienced something as a child and it has formed your version of a father and a provider. And that's your prerogative. You've got to go to the meeting.

20:40Justin Colby:I've been judged. So 2024 was by far the hardest financial year in business, even worse than when I was sleeping on the couch. 2024 was that way for you too? I got my ass kicked in 2024. Who are we? Did we just become best friends? I think so. You want to do Karate in the Garage? Karate in the Garage. Yep. If you guys aren't old enough to know that, then I don't know how to say it. It's called Step Brothers. Go freaking watch it. And it was by far the hardest year, and I've come out and said it. I have a very, very good friend, I consider him an older brother, Kent Clothier, who I was still kind of image-wise keeping up, like everything's fine.

21:21Justin Colby:Meanwhile, I'm getting crushed. And he just sat me down. And this is what a real friend does. He doesn't snicker behind my back. He doesn't sit there and judge me. he literally were we're running an event together he says hey bro i'm in whatever room come over the room come over the room and he sits me down he's like knock it off bro i'm like what i had no idea what he was talking about right because i'm like you know and he's like you're going through it dude and i just watched you have a video about your gold rolex and your thing and like knock it off he's like you need to understand i would be transparent and vulnerable and the moment you do that people will look at you as a real one funny enough i get home and it just it caught me off guard in a great way i wasn't i didn't push back on it and i said i needed this i felt i just owned it i was like yes immediately go out and post my war stories fighting the dragons what's happening losing millions of dollars like the whole thing and uh i've been called a real one more times in my life and life and i say that laughingly like he was right which i give him his flowers even though it's hard for me to give my big brother flowers right sure um but it just goes back to this idea of like again this podcast and being able to push forward there's never a perfect it's just you just keep going because what are the options well dude let's let's let's go backwards man let's talk about those moments yeah you know when you're when you're living on your buddy's couch yeah you know and i said it it was 100 calls a day what was it 90 hang-ups oh yeah eight brief conversations and two yeses for nine months with nothing to show for it nothing how do you make that call on day 150 what are my options when you have when what i tell people when you're backed up against the wall you have like there's one way out it's forward yeah man so you know it's funny grant and i have gotten really relatively close he's like i always force myself to be broke because when i'm broke i don't i have to go make more and it's just saying my idea when your back's against the wall there's one way out yeah and so you know you talk about where i live and i've had people snicker and i've heard it like he should move he's going through a rough year he shouldn't live in miami he should live in ohio and it's cold there i'll go fucking win yeah that's what i'll do go fucking figure it out i will pick myself up off this mat and i will go figure it out and i will go win and partly it's because i know i have people around me i can lean on that will give me their hand.

24:16Justin Colby:I just made a post about this. People that have achieved more than you, that have gone through the shit you've gone through and made it out, that make more money, that are more successful, they're not going to go snicker at you or talk shit about you. The first thing they're going to do is give you their hand. Like, let's go, baby. Come on. That's interesting because it reminded me of part of your story back in the beginning where you had a friend invest$100 ,000 into you. Believe to me. He gave me a loan, personal unsecured loan, and I used it for coaching. For Ben, right? Was it for Ben? No, it wasn't for Ben.

24:48Justin Colby:Ben was more recent. Okay. So this was for a fix and flip company. Okay. And you spent a quarter of that on that mentor. You had two phone calls with that mentor and your business shifted a completely different direction. The way it went. What did he say? It's simple shit. It literally was like, hey, if you want to get more deals, because right at the time, you got to remember this is 2007, 2008, right? I think 2008 when we invested in coaching, the bank still didn't know what they were doing with these short sales and foreclosure. So it wasn't just us not knowing how to run the business. There was also some fundamental stuff on the back end because everyone was losing their home and loans were short sales.

25:30Justin Colby:So basically it was a fundamental way of how to get more deal flow or at least lead flow so that you could make more offers so you can get higher conversion. So it kind of goes back to even what you're saying, 100 calls, 92 of them laugh at you. You know, six of them spend a minute with you to get two actual conversations, right? Same idea in the business. It was like, well, you're not talking to enough people to make offers, so you're not making enough offers. So you can't get enough deal flow, so you can't make any more money than you're currently making. And you go, oh, got it, right? And then you go, how many offers can I fucking make a day?

26:05Justin Colby:So we just ratcheted up our offers. it got to a point where I had like a team of realtors who are also going broke, right? Everyone in this. And I'm like, everyone needs to make sure there's 10 offers a day. I'm making 10 offers a day. You're going to make it. You're going to make, we need 10. So we're going to have a hundred offers a day going out every day, Monday through Saturday. I was like, I need to go six days a week. Not, not five. This message is sponsored by Raycon. There's something about the start of fall that puts me in reset mode, cleaning out the old and getting organized. My new go-to for that reset has been Raycon's Everyday Earbuds Classic.

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27:17Go to buyraycon.com slash determined to get 20 % off. Thanks, Raycon, for sponsoring. You know, that's interesting because when you're talking about numbers and offers, it all breaks down to KPIs.

27:31Justin Colby:Yeah. So if you're never in corporate America or you're never in sales, you don't understand KPIs. You need to know your numbers. You need to know your close ratio. But you also need, the most important thing is you need to know how many calls does it take to get a meeting. And then you break things down based on your close ratio and be like, okay, well, if I need to make 10 offers, then I need to make this many calls. People aren't dissecting that. They're going willy-nilly and just say, okay, well, I'm just going to dial in. I made 25 calls today. It was brutal. 25 calls ain't shit bro i left ucla i went to ucla i got my diploma and i went directly into door knocking oh for what my family was excited um so essentially it was like this farming company that taught you how to build your own business so from college i've never had a w2 i've been an entrepreneur my entire life that's awesome so it's pretty cool but it also means i have to go through the eating shit a lot to figure it out but there was a metric that they taught us you knock 100 doors a day every single day and you will have one sale and you will earn$100.

28:32Justin Colby:It was a very easy metric. Now, by the way, we were excited to make$100 a day back then. This is 2003. $100 a day doesn't pay for lunch. And I say that respectfully. Like I just ordered Saturday, we ordered Chick-fil-A. Dude, keep going, man. This is ridiculous. I have two little kids, five and two they're not big eaters it's me and my wife she weighs 105 pounds right like she's yeah she ain't eat a lot i ordered four chicken sandwiches a chicken nugget an order of their french fries and one diet coke 60 bucks 84 good god it's you can't eat anything for basically less than a hundred dollars now you could right like we could just go to chipotle and spend 14 which now it's 14 it's not like 7.99 anymore whatever so i say all this to say uh because we're going on a tangent of cost of living but the reality is going back to this is like you have to be able to go win and you have to fight your way through all this and you don't sacrifice on what you want ever because you're determined.

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29:47Justin Colby:Because in my world, you do law number one first, decide what you want, and then you need to figure out who you need to be to get what you want. So for me, when I was broke, it was 100 calls a day to get two appointments. When I started the business and got coaching, two calls in, you go, I just need to make more offers and I'll get more deals. Done. I need to make sure I'm making more offers, right? And that is the same thing all the time door knocking 100 doors$100 like okay so let me go hit 200 doors to make$200 I need more money for the weekend I want to go out and I want to have fun with my friends it's a metric 100 doors$100 like so go hit 300 doors you know it it's simple right but it's not easy for everybody to execute simple not easy simple not easy man I mean it is the most simplistic saying but it means so much most people quit way too soon yeah dude honestly let's be real most people in your situation when you're making those hundred phone calls they're gonna quit after two weeks done done maybe a week you did it for nine months with zero return you know it's interesting when you have nothing to lose you're the most dangerous person on the planet yeah i couldn't go further right I couldn't pay my cell phone bill.

31:07Justin Colby:They took my car. You know what I mean? I'm literally eating because my friend will buy me a burger a day. He gives me a bag of almonds every morning to go to Starbucks with. I will go to the end of the earth to figure this out. So I go. Now, most people don't feel that pain. So when we talk about determination, just to bring it kind of full circle to this podcast, I don't think determination is needed a lot of the time. I think if you get yourself in a position of there's no option, you will achieve great things. Think about even Elon Musk and SpaceX. How many times did he almost have to go BK in that company?

31:48Justin Colby:Dude. And he pushed himself to the brink so many times. I think the story is there was a moment where he had enough money for one more rocket. It was it. It was over. I'm all in. builds the rocket spends the money and it worked so how many times before that did they all fail like you push yourself into a position that you have no option i had a coach one time tell me go get the maserati at the time my car payment i think was 300 the maserati was going to make it 900 like damn like you're so quick to just tell me to go get it like okay like is this good advice what's going on man he was like you know what's going to happen because who you are and how your childhood was because he knew my childhood he was like you're gonna force yourself to go make three times more money yeah i'm like ah so i went and got the maserati partly just because i wanted it and ended up making three times more money because when you put yourself in the position you don't even have to be determined there's no other option damn you are gonna pay your bills or you are not.

32:54Figure it the fuck out.

32:57Justin Colby:And we all do, by the way. Yeah. I have a buddy who swears by the person who's the most busy in your company is the one you give more stuff to. Why? Because they are the ones that can figure out how to get it done. And it's just, time and time again, I find this one thing to be true, is if you put yourself in a position, you will figure it out. So would you say, the people that aren't figuring it out, right? They're pushing for something and they just can't do it. They quit. They see too many road bumps and they're just like, you know what, I'm going to go on the easier route. Do you think that's a lack of clarity of what they want?

33:38Justin Colby:That's all it is. I agree. They just don't understand what they want. Yeah. And even if they argue they do, they just don't want it bad enough. so like i go and speak on stages all the time in different like sectors right i'm known for real estate but i've gotten to a place where now i'm like speaking to totally like tax strategy conferences and asset protection conferences and all these different conferences and what i tell them is people think they know what they want until they get it and they realize that wasn't really what they want so for example as a high income earner a lot of people buy larger homes So I go on stage and I talk about this idea of like, hey, I think you're building your business wrong.

34:20Justin Colby:And they're like, well, F you. Don't tell. Who do you know? And I say, great. So you're making a lot of money. Why? Oh, so I want financial freedom and I want control and I want time freedom. And I'm like, no, those are all wrong answers. They kind of go, no, they're not. They're my answers. Don't tell me what's wrong. See, here's why they're wrong. So you're making all this money. How big is your home? Oh, 6 ,000 square feet. Great. Good for you. So you're going to invite me over and I'm going to say how beautiful your home is, right? And you're going to show it off and you'll be super proud.

34:50Justin Colby:And the next time you invite me over, I'm not going to mention your house because I've already seen your house. But I'm going to say, hey, dude, what's new with you? And you're going to say, I don't know, same old, same old. But the dopamine hit of me complimenting you about how beautiful this house is and congratulating you is gone now. But you know what actually makes you happy is the fact that you have a big enough house to bring your entire family over to have your birthdays, Thanksgivings, Christmases. that's what makes you happy so you're building your business thinking you want more you don't want more you want to be happy hard stop so us drivers us entrepreneurs the people that we have to reframe all this we have to understand what we want the only thing we should genuinely want is to be happy and that might be different for you than it is for me but it damn sure doesn't mean 6 ,000 square foot house makes us happy.

35:44Justin Colby:What happens inside the house can though. So I would disagree with you on the fact that our happiness is probably different. I just want, I want to be my family. Okay. What happens inside the, right? Like you said, what happens inside the home? Yeah, that's fair. You know, whether it's 2 ,500 square foot, 6 ,000 square foot, 1 ,200 square foot, what is going on under that roof? Yeah. Are your kids thriving is your wife happy so go back to what you asked me earlier so then our struggle i gotta take the meeting i can't be at the right that's a fight now we're fighting that internally like god i want to be happy and i'm building this business and it's creating the thing i want which is time and in the have a house that we can fit everyone in and we're doing that but then i i gotta take this meeting right so then we're back to this paradoxical thing and so my point is then you've to refine even further how do and by the way there's no perfect to this so i tell all the listeners right now like if you think i have it all figured out you are sadly mistaken that's right i'm i do not have this all figured out but i'm learning as i go because i want to go make as much money as humanly possible i'm not anti-money i'm very pro-money very pro-capitalism but how i build that has changed right and so i think for me and what i believe people should be building this business for and making this money and like being determined is good i think you really need to refine happiness and clarity of what you want and by the way for me it took 90 days to refine that answer what was your process like to refine that answer you're gonna like this uh every day seven days a week i would go on my backyard and smoke a cigar in total quiet i wouldn't bring a notepad i wouldn't bring my phone i would sit because if you have kids you know that is a very uncommon moment of just pure quiet if you are married you know it is a very uncommon moment and if you're a business moaner a business owner you know like when you combine like never do we get that no so i force that nowadays so i realized how powerful that was so now i wake up at 4 30 in the morning because i want that hour still now i'm not trying to figure as much out today as i was then and you know what i did is i sat in quiet i literally tried to turn my brain off enjoy my cigar i would hear that i live we live in miami you hear the birds and the nature and there would be a iguana that runs across my clusius and whatever in just and all of a sudden whether you believe in god or how like some answers just started coming they just started coming yeah right and i'm not gonna you know i i have my own relationship with god i'm not gonna go there because I just feel like people are playing into that a little too much.

38:36Justin Colby:It just came. It just came to me. And whether I heard it, felt it, I just, I got clarity on how I wanted to rebuild again. This happened in 2024. We're talking two and a half years ago, right? Like guys and girls, like you will go through these peaks and valleys and moments of crisis. And how do I figure it out? And that was my solution is every 90 days. My wife's like, God, you just love cigars. You just diet Coke sometimes, like coffee, and just lean into it. And funny enough, if you give yourself enough runway, this goes back to my fifth law, which is don't put a time expectation on the result you want.

39:19Justin Colby:The result I wanted was clarity. I just didn't know when I was going to get it. So every day, take my happy ass out there. At 4.30 in the morning. No, now those cigars were like midday. I was going to say, because I was like, to be clear, are you smoking cigars at 4.30 in the morning? Like, holy shit, that's bold. Now it's midday. Those were midday. Now my time for that quiet is in the morning. Yeah. Now, because I realized the power of it. I'm like, dude, I need more time because you can't give if your cup is empty, right? And so I'm like, I need to make sure I hit the gym every day. Yep. And if I try to do it at the afternoon or in the evenings, something's popping up.

39:55Justin Colby:Never happens, right? So that's how I found the clarity. And I would tell everyone, regardless of your spirituality or health and wellness, like lean into getting you time. Amazing thing happens when you turn off your brain. Very hard for us, by the way. Like the first couple weeks was not like an easy feat. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you because I'm going through that journey right now of, you know, I'll get in the sauna after my lift. And I'll turn on the app waking up and I'll meditate. Yeah. And like, I'll close my eyes and like my brain's racing everywhere. And it's just like, I'm doing this wrong.

40:32I'm doing it completely fucking wrong. And it's so hard at the beginning because you don't know how to silence your mind to the outside freaking noise.

40:40Justin Colby:Yeah. Or what you think you're supposed to want. Yeah. Right. And so, you know, but the one thing I will say, even in those first couple of weeks where it's really hard to do that, I was calmer. I started calming down a little bit and seeing things for what they actually were. And then, you know, it was only a couple of weeks ago. So I'm still in the middle of it, right? I'm still in that thing where, hey, Sean, you should probably get quiet with yourself because you're a powerful being, but you also need to hear yourself. And I think a lot of entrepreneurs and a lot of young people, it just doesn't matter, people in general, they allow the outside and the external factors to push them towards where they think they need to go.

41:24And if you don't sit with yourself and you're not quiet, you don't know what you really want because what you think everybody else wants you to want is not going to stick.

41:34Justin Colby:Amen. It's not you. You know, it's funny because I walked the line with what you said about the outside world. 99 % of the outside world I don't pay attention to. But you know I have the room and have you in it now. I'm super excited about having you. No, I'm excited, man. That's going to be great. I curate a room so that I do have somewhere to go. That's different. So that you will have somewhere to go. Yeah, no, I love that. So the outside world on social media, they can kick rocks. Yes, they can. Right? Just kick rocks. But having groups that you can learn from, that you can be vulnerable with, like part of my requirement to get into the room is you have to be transparent.

42:12Justin Colby:You have to be totally vulnerable. You have to tell us the shit that sucks because I might have a person right now that I say, here's the answer to your shitty situation. and you just don't know because i don't know yeah so if you don't open up then i can't help right does that make sense no it makes perfect sense like i'm excited to do it because like i need somewhere to go with that because my wife can't shoulder at all no and she's been my only person like my boys my team they listen to me yeah but i also and and there's always going to be that i mean they're in the trenches with me they're building this with me you know but to have people that are so objective and like a 50 ,000 foot view can look down and say, hold on, dude.

42:53Justin Colby:Oh, clear, super clear. You're right there, do that. Yeah. And it also is an added benefit because as a man, when you can speak up and feel heard and then another dude come and help you, you're like, bro, that's like a fucking gladiator moment. That's it. That's where you bond. Yeah. You know, I just think it's super useful. But yeah, to your point, rooms like that the room yeah the room that's why i called it the room that's where you listen gives me shivers i'm super excited about it i love it just launched we just had our first call last night first meetings here in miami uh and we don't have to take the podcast but like we'll be on a yacht we're gonna do real cool healthy we i believe in four things family relationships wealth and health so there'll be a health component to every single meeting this message is sponsored by Raycon.

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44:40Justin Colby:So anyway, super excited about that. But where were we? We were talking about cool stuff. No, hold on. Don't. No, no, no, no, dude. No, dog. Don't go yet because people need to hear this.

44:52I have a show about determination and discipline. And up until December of 2024, I was 225 pounds. And you've seen the pictures, Will. And I was a fat mess. 32 % body fat on a DEXA scan. I'm 185 now. I don't know what my DEXA scan is going to read. I'm really going to do it here in a couple weeks.

45:09Justin Colby:It's in the teens. I'm going to say 12.9%. Holy hell. I think more like 16. Maybe. But if you're right, like, dude, we're going on that yacht. We're partying. That's it. You know, but the business in my interviews started to get better when I started taking care of that side of the street. Oh, yeah. Because I firmly believe people are stuck in their lives, sometimes for more than one reason. Yeah. But typically it's the one thing that you think about constantly when you're still with yourself that bothers you so fucking much and that you can't fix. For me, it was my weight. The moment I fixed the health portion of myself, took off.

45:49And I'm still on that journey. I'm not done. I'm not even close to being. There's no finish line. It's what I do every day.

45:58Justin Colby:I'll make some introductions. I'm on a big health journey. I love it. And by the way, I would argue I'm not as concerned about my food. I've always been lean, and I'm saying this respectfully. I just literally did a whole CT scan of my insides, which is unique. So there's a company here, what's it called? Prenu or Nuva? Anyways, that does an MRI of your insides that will detect cancer and tumors or whatever. But a CT scan is the only thing that can get your heart to see if you have plaque buildup. And that can give you the heart attack. Sure, of course. So I flew to Houston to do it. Happy to give you the company.

46:34Justin Colby:Please. But I'm on this big thing. So I did that. I did an MRI on my brain. So my whole thing is physically, externally, people are like, you're healthy. You work out four to five times a week. You're healthy. Yeah, but you have no idea what's going on inside, right? So I do blood panels every quarter. I just did the CT scan. I pooped in a cup. I want to know what's going on in my gut, my biomes, like, am I alert? Like, all the things. because, dude, thankfully, the doctor's like, you're annoying. There's nothing wrong with you. There's nothing wrong with you. I can't fix you. Yeah. I can't dig my claws into you.

47:11Justin Colby:So I'm very blessed about that. But at the end of the day, I believe very heavily in longevity of life. So, again, I keep talking about speaking only because I've been speaking a lot lately. But I went out, I spoke in California to this group of about 200 very wealthy individuals. and I said, you guys are doing it wrong because you're caring more about the now versus longevity of life. What are you guys doing with the money you're making right now that you are investing it in a way that gives you the longevity of life you're wanting? Meaning medical advancements are only going to improve. So for us men, peptides and testosterone and - Love it.

47:48Justin Colby:I'm all like - I'm all in it. My whole counter is just flooded, right? Yeah, dude. Now I have so much, like in the kitchen now, I have all these pills I'm taking because of whatever because I want my digestive system even better. I'm like tightening all the screws. So I tell these rich people, you guys are doing it? Great, you're making a lot of money. But for what? Which I circle back to happiness and decide what you want. But then at some point, I'm not going to want to keep going as hard as I'm going. I will never retire. I've told my wife, never think I'm going to just be the guy I retired.

48:21Justin Colby:It won't happen, not me. But I'll probably not want to do much. So I need my money to work a lot harder than I'm working. because we're going to live to 100, dude. Who's planning financially to live to? Who is? And by the way, I'm literally talking a lot about this, and people will say, I don't know, I throw some shit in stocks, and I bought a short-term rent. Inflation is going to crush us in 30 years. In 30 years, I'm 75 years old. I have no idea how much gas is going to cost. $40 a gallon? Could you imagine? I mean, when I got my driver's license, it was 99 cents. Yeah, same. Yeah. And now it's basically$5.

49:04Justin Colby:So what is that? I have 16 to 45. So we're talking 30 years. So in 20 years, is it that crazy to think it's going to 5X? $25 a gallon? I don't think so. How the fuck are we going to afford anything in 25 years? And no one is planning for when they're actually not working, making money. they're so consumed with making money they're not planning for when they can't make it or don't want to make it anymore and so i come from and this is my pe so i run a pe firm and we buy apartments so i put that hat on and start talking about like guys you need to be in things investments that will pay you in a way that when you do actually want to stop earning the money you can afford an amazing lifestyle not just like exist and not have to downsize into a small apartment because you can't afford your house in pinecrest anymore you can and you will but people don't think about health and wealth and longevity so i'm big in this health and longevity space because brother we're going to live to a hundred and i'm going to have great great grain children that I'm going to go take on Disney because I'm a vibrant 100-year-old that's doing it and I can afford an$8 ,000 family trip.

50:19Justin Colby:People don't think that way. They're so consumed with the right now. And I'm trying to help. Part of my rhetoric for the last six months after going through my 2024 is this recalibration of it all. I was so consumed with making money now, making a lot of it, and I just lost track, dude. My ego got in the way in a big way. I was totally blinded by my ego and I lost track. I'm like, all right, if I'm rebuilding and I hear what I'm hearing and I'm getting this clarity, I'm doing it for the long term, baby. When you brought up ego, you know, is that the biggest cost your ego cost you right there? That right there, the 20-24.

50:58Justin Colby:100%. I had to be what I believe is God cut my head off for a reason. He was like, I got to slip. This isn't about you, dog. Yeah. It's not. And you made it about you. That's the thing I love about spirituality because he knows. Yeah. He knows what he planned you for. He knows what's in store for you. It's like, I got to cut his head off right now. Yeah, in a big way. Because he won't get to where I need him to get to. Like, that's his mission. That's right. Your assignment. And I was playing too small. Yeah. I was just out of field. I was out of bounds. He's like, bro, I know that you are this MVP of this assignment.

51:34Justin Colby:You're the guy. And you're over here playing with flowers. what right so you just had to realign me and unfortunately my ego was so and not big and like I was an asshole and a jerk it could be at some times but like we all man but more just like it was just not in alignment and anyone who knows me knows me I'm very emotional like I'll cry me too scared I'm a big I'm not scared I love it right like giving when I tell you the story about the big brother so we were at this large event with a bunch of people and I got the mic, bro, and trying to give him flowers. And I'm like, and he finally is like, all right, Justin, I got it.

52:14Justin Colby:I got it. You know what I mean? Because it's just an emotional moment for me, right? So I say all that just to say, like, God just saw this ego, and I swear it was just like, dude, you're so much better than whatever the hell you're trying to do right now because you're trying to look cool. You're trying to—go ahead. That's called fierce empathy, man. Yeah. That's what he is. So he definitely level set me. Yeah. But again, you put me in a corner and I'll find a way. And by the way, I have. We just talked privately about things I'm doing and like I'm going. And I'm going harder than I ever have, dude.

52:47Justin Colby:And it's working. And I understand I have an uphill battle and all these things. But like been there before. Yeah, I just also think it's these uphill battles, right? Like we're not necessarily in possession of the tools to get us through those moments or to excel through those moments. but when we're in them, we get them. We earn them. You know Ed Milet? Yeah. Everyone knows Ed Milet. Have you heard him speak? No, I've never been to anything he spoke to. So I've had the honor to, I don't want to say get close to him, but he's close enough in this very small group of men. I've heard him speak a couple times, but he does talk about you are the most capable person to help yourself through the hard time because of the things that you have gone through.

53:30Justin Colby:And that's exactly what you're saying, is because of what I went through in 2007, I know how to help myself. I was given that gift, which I can't say was a gift at the time. I thought it was terrible, but now I understand what I can do and what I'm capable of. And so when I go through 2024, which is whatever that is, 18 years later, whatever the math works out to be, it's like, okay, I know what I gotta do. And even though it's amplified, it's all relative, right? It's all relative. It's like, okay, I may have lost more in 2024 than I did in 2007, but it's all relative, man. And if I got through that, I can get through this and it may not be the last time you go through something.

54:08Justin Colby:Oh, by the way, it won't be. Hell no. No, it won't be the last time. So again, preparing myself. But now I can, even then, it's still like, okay, take it, learn, compress the ability to make faults again in that same direction. But I heard The Rock say something great. They're asking them about, you're the guy, you're on the top of the mountain. What's next? What are you going to do next? it's like i'm gonna build more fucking mountain yeah like i gotta keep going yeah and so like when you get to these new levels and the cliche is new levels new devils yeah so when you don't know what's around the corner to some extent you're gonna come up with getting punched in the face but if you've insulated your ability and you can minimize the effect of that punch that's now where i'm at so like for me it's like how do i protect my downside i still want that meteoric just blaze right but now i'm like all right how do i protect my downside so i can live with the cost of giving getting it wrong does that make sense oh 100 and like the thing that you said that really resonated was i'm gonna build more fucking mountains yeah because i think a lot of people out there they have a goal and once they get to that goal that's it i want to lose 15 pounds okay well you're gonna find it again yeah no doubt what the fuck like especially if it's fast yeah like You're going to find it quickly, right?

55:32And the thing is when people set goals in business or even I talk to a lot of younger podcasters that want this. And I go, all right, so what's the goal?

55:45Justin Colby:Yeah. And they tell me the goal. I go, that's your goal? What I'm going to tell you is if that's your goal, you're going to fall short because you need to be shooting for something else. And you need to understand that there's no finish line. A lot of people want that finish line. They want to know that they've arrived. I'm to that point. I don't have, and I've made that mistake. And I'm like you, I teach from scars, not from theory. Like it is, this is what I've gone through and this is what I've studied on myself. And this is what I know to be true. If I set a destination, now I can set a North Star of something I'm chasing, but I know that's not it.

56:22Because if I think that it is, and when you guys listening or watching think that is it, Once you get there, you're going to be sadly mistaken because your only goal was to get there and you didn't love the work that got you there and you don't freaking appreciate it. And you're toast and you're starting all over.

56:39Justin Colby:Yeah. What's the cliche about loving the journey, not the destination? Yeah. I mean, there's a bunch of them, right? Love the process. Marry the process, divorce the result. Like all those things. And they're cliches for a reason, Justin, right? Because they're just true. Because they're so true. They're true. And so, and again, I think there's chapters and seasons where everyone should be recreating themselves anyways. You don't have to go through the pain you went through or I went through. Learn from us, by the way. Give us a call. Glad to help you. Yeah, seriously. But, you know, I think we're all growing beings.

57:10Justin Colby:And I think as we want more, desire more, going more, and you sprinkle in a little spirituality in that, like, it's not always one size fits all. and getting clear on what you want will determine how hard you push, where you go, what you... Yeah. I think it's important, too, to tell everybody as well. It's heavy. It's big. It's heavy. It's heavy as fuck, man. Like, you know, they see things from the outside. They see your show. They see your private equity firm. You guys are buying apartments. Man, like you said earlier, overnight. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I met somebody in the Bahamas. I met a family.

57:50His name is Remy. His wife's name is Sandy. Amazing. Great kids. Kaya and Xander. Amazing people. I met them at the pool the first day.

58:01Justin Colby:And I was just bullshitting with them. And I'm listening to him and everything he's been through. And he owns an ambulance company now in Los Angeles. And he's killing it. And he's such an amazing man. Him and his wife both grew up in Egypt. Yeah. And by the way, he left a family business in Egypt. Not easy. No, it's not. And the grandfather founded the very first plastic toilet seat and never patented it because he wanted more people to be able to have it and to prosper from it. But he made a shift and moved and went and did the Wall Street thing. And then he went to L.A. and now he owns his own company.

58:39And he told me this story because he asked me what I did. And I told him. So I got a podcast called The Determined Society. That's all I said. He goes, oh, awesome. How long have you been doing it? I was like, almost six years. you know he's like who have you interviewed i told him somebody's like holy shit no way and i'm like yeah and i said but i'm in that messy middle right now you know i'm i'm i'm in that that hard part right that really really hard part where you know you're close but it just hasn't happened yet yeah and into the outside looking at a lot has happened yeah but where i want to be i'm nowhere close and i do that on purpose right but he says to me he's like you know he's like do you know tony I'm neutral.

59:21I don't understand his comedy, but I know he's successful. He goes, bro, I was listening to him like 10 years ago. I said, wait a second.

59:32Justin Colby:He's been around 10 years? I was like, he's been around 10 years? And for the audience hanging on to this story and this rant, I have a point. I said, wait a second. I just learned about him two years ago. And if you knew him 10 years ago, he's been working for 12 to 14 years. that motherfucker stuck with it for 16 years and he exploded and now he's on netflix and he's doing all these things and people including myself go huh where'd he come from yeah he's been in the dark working his ass off yeah those are people that you latch on to and you study them yeah that's right because that's important man and and he told me that story and i and i just looked at him i said thank you yeah he's like what do you mean i'm like you just taught me something I was like, what?

1:00:19I go, I got another 10 years, man. Oh, yeah. Like, I got to think in terms of decades. And it helped me so much. And we had this amazing conversation. And we exchanged numbers. I get a text message the next day. Goes, hey, man, full transparency. I pulled you up on YouTube. And I was up until 3 a.m. watching your shows. And I smiled. and he went on to say, man, in a couple of years, I'm going to be able to say, I met this dude and his family on vacation. He's like, everything you're talking about is resonating with me. You're on to something. Don't you freaking stop. Those moments right there are when you trust somebody and you know someone's successful, you validate, you like that external validation because they built something.

1:01:13And the whole point of it is the overnight success is not a real thing. No. And people like you, people like me, people like Tony Hinchcliffe.

1:01:22Justin Colby:Yeah. Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart. Worked in silence for a very long time. That's it. And now there's this meteoric rise, but it wasn't overnight. That's right. It takes time. Yeah, look at the images of The Rock when he has a fanny pack and all. Yeah. Well, now he's The Rock. Yeah. He did wear a fanny pack, though. He did, for sure. He sure did. Now, which is weirdly in style again. I don't even know. I'm not wearing a fanny pack. I'm not either. I think I did in like seventh or eighth grade. I definitely had the turtleneck look. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, and the mullet and the lines. Oh, hell yeah. The lines.

1:01:54Yeah, the vanilla ice shit. Oh, bro, that's the game. My seventh grade picture was horrendous. Dude, black turtleneck with his vest and my chain hanging out. Mullet. Beautiful. Lines. It's Bay Area talk. Dude, hell yeah, man. That's it. That's so fucking funny, dude.

1:02:10Justin Colby:And funny enough, I'm looking down at your bracelets. My daughter makes those bracelets also. Yeah, so... Is it the one with the little thing? The fishtail, yeah. Yeah, they do all that. So when I wear my watch, I move this one from here to here. Yeah. But this is typically my youngest daughter's wrist, and this is my oldest daughter's wrist. So she made me both of these. Well, she got me this and she made me that. My daughter doesn't have the complex nature of that one yet. She does the more simple ones because she's five. Yeah. but bro i can't even do the complex ones i'm like how do we figure this i can't even do one it's like the finger dexterity like i cramp and stuff i'm like what the hell's going on with my palm that's it do this shit yeah but dude thank you so much man it's been so nice to meet you great to meet you as well you know i got one last question i know you have said in the show that you don't always have to have determination but the fact of the matter is determination can mean so many different things and so many different people right so after everything that you've gone through in your life, your falls, your rises and a fall again.

1:03:11And now, you know, you're on your way back up, you're crushing it. What does true determination mean to Justin Colby?

1:03:19Justin Colby:Decide, commit and take action. Daily. Daily. I mean, it's just, you need determination to get to where you want to go, but you first have to decide what you want and then you got to commit to it. And then you got to go all day, every day, now we go. Yeah, now we go. That's Ben Newman, baby. That's Ben Newman all day. What a good dude, man. What an incredible human. Dude, unrequired. How many days is he on now at this point? Like 3 ,000, I don't even know. I remember when he was on the push to 1 ,000. It's wild. It's crazy. It's the craziest shit ever. That's a disciplined son of a gun. He's just such a solid, solid, solid human.

1:04:00Yeah, he is. That's why he's so successful. That is. Because he gives a shit about people.

1:04:05Justin Colby:Yeah. That's a lesson for everybody. That's it. When you actually care about it and care about the human, the results come. Beautiful, man. Thank you again, brother. Of course. It's been an amazing conversation. Anytime, dude. Anytime. For everybody watching, thank you so much. If you want updates on The Determined Society and the amazing guests like my man, Justin Colby, head to our website, thedeterminedsociety.com. Sign up for all the updates. And until next time, stay determined.

From the publisher

In the new episode of The Determined Society, Shawn French sits down with Justin Colby, real estate investor, entrepreneur, coach, speaker, and podcast host, for a powerful conversation on failure, discipline, fatherhood, wealth, health, ego, and what it really takes to keep going when life knocks everything out from under you.

The episode dives into different chapters of Justin’s life, including:

• Losing everything during the market crash
• Sleeping on a friend’s couch with no car, no money, and no place to live
• Making 100 phone calls a day for months with almost no results
• Growing up with alcoholic parents and building a “so what, now what?” mentality
• The five laws of success
• Removing time expectations from your goals
• Why most people quit too soon
• Fatherhood, marriage, pressure, and the weight men carry
• Building businesses through KPIs, sales, and relentless execution
• The hardest financial year of his life in 2024
• Ego, humility, and rebuilding with clarity
• Health, longevity, wealth, and planning for the long game
• Why happiness, family, and freedom matter more than chasing more

This conversation goes beyond real estate and entrepreneurship. It is about scars, resilience, discipline, clarity, and the kind of determination it takes to keep moving forward when there is no easy way out.

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