Netflix: Black Rabbit with Chris Coy

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0:39An action thriller. There's a bag of money and a gun. Who's going to get it? And then there are other really, really nuanced and beautiful moments where it is a family drama. It's really highly relatable content. Zach Balin and Kate Sussman are the two creators of the show. And I'm really intelligent of them to make this show that's really fun to watch. and it's dark. Good guys, bad guys, that sort of shit. But threaded through all of that is this sort of emotional turmoil and this family dynamic that so many of us know all too well, even if we never talk about it.

1:16All right, everybody, I got Chris Coy here. This one's special. He's my cousin and he's a very successful actor. He's been in a lot of different things back in the day. He's been in so much, I'm going to miss a lot, but he's been in Treme, been in Banshee, True Blood had a bunch of cameos in TV, been in The Walking Dead but most recently he's got a new one coming out, co-starring with Jason Bateman and Jude Law with Black Rabbit on Netflix, man, what's up baby? Hey, cuz God I love you, it's good to see you I love you too man, love you too like how cool is it that as family we get to hop on a show and talk about your career and you could be on my show actually this is the second time um but like the first time you were like wearing jorts and the show sucked and uh i don't know if we're good now but i think we're getting a little better let's just think some things have amplified for both of us maybe a little bit right maybe a little bit yeah yeah but no dude it's just it's it's fun that we get this opportunity to do this so walk me through what's going on man dude i mean life's good on the on the personal side you know we're we're renovating this house we uh we probably bit off more than we could chew but we're you know one room at a time in it and uh that's fun learning a lot breaking some stuff here and there and uh kids are good happy healthy volleyball and jujitsu and you know they're they're doing their thing and i'm god just loving watching that's definitely like that's awesome that's the best role i've got i know you feel the same way like that fatherhood stuff is just oh um it's the hardest though isn't it it's the best for you know it's what i think it's what it's where it's where i like measure myself on the daily you know like did i how did i do today you know and what kind of later tomorrow with them but anyway um so they're good alice is good She's still patient and tolerant of me.

3:17And, you know, God bless her, man. What a saint. It's true. It's true, man. God, never been happier there. And then and then professionally, you know, waiting on this show to drop. It actually had its world premiere last night in Toronto at TIFF. Yeah. Which was fun. I guess by the time this airs, you know, it will have been a week ago or so. but um looking good people are liking it uh but for me i mean it's and this is selfish i guess but i i just love it i love the show and i love working on it and um dreamy you know going to work every day and all all of my stuff is either with jason bateman or jude law or a combination of the two and and then um the rest of my stuff is uh with this academy award-winning deaf actor named troy kotzer who's just an absolute icon um and uh and so yeah like you get to work every day and you're with those guys across from you on camera and then behind camera is like jason's directing some episodes or laura lenny directed two episodes and sky ben simonoff who was the dp for Ozark and this guy, Justin Kirksell, who's like this huge up and coming independent film and soon to be just like a huge, huge weapon in the industry director.

4:41And, um, and then producing wise, you got Michael Costigan and Eric Kate, like, these are all just like, those are huge names, you know? And I know it's like such a cool feeling. And you know, this feeling, I know you do, um, going to work and being in a room and you look up or you look around and it's just all-stars and you're like and like i'm in the right room and like dude i know i'm feeling all you know like um yeah i have like humble beginnings and and really kind of like i think that you know you you probably relate to this more than most um not just because you know we're family but because i know where you come from you know we both like set off on this endeavor and i think a lot of people that were in our ear who cared about us were like maybe don't like it's tough that's hard it's you know and um and so to end up in this place where where your peers are people that you maybe once looked up to and and to feel like despite that initial reaction of like am i in the right room to ultimately feel like you belong there is man it's so um so beautiful it's It's an interesting thing, right?

6:01Because you talked about most of your stuff on camera, then even behind cameras with Jude or Jason Bateman, right? And so you ever think, again, we both are very confident in our abilities, but also times where, like you said, am I in the right room? You grew up, I know you grew up watching Jason Bateman. Now you're sitting here in this limited series with him. What is that like for you? Dude, not even just sitting with him. Now I'm in this limited series with a gun in his face, being like shut up like and then they're like i don't want to do this my whole life i'm waiting there like cut and i'm like i'm so sorry are you okay and he's like you ain't a motherfucker like he's fucking great he's funny dude he's a he's a talented dude man and like on and off camera um that remains constant like really funny guy highly likable so smart um and great leader um great director just like kind of like one of the just just one of the boys like just a good dude like you you don't you really quickly forget that that you're sort of standing next to this man that you've in one way or the other known your whole life and looked up to and there's always been the separation between you yeah he quickly puts all that to to rest and there's that's badass That's a true professional, man.

7:28Yeah. And Jude is the same way. I'll be at a different character. Jude kind of glides by you. You're like, oh my God, that's Jude Law. But when he glides up to you, he's just such a good man. They both are. And that's the other thing too, is that in their personal lives too, Like we're talking just two family men, love their kids, love their partners, you know, dedicated them loyal and, you know, we were talking about earlier. That's, that's amazing, dude. It's, it's good to know that because you see people on screen, you don't know what they're like, you know, off camera. Like you look at Barry Bonds, you know, he's the best baseball player ever, but you know, he has his things, right?

8:16Like he's not very approachable. So it's always nice when, you know, you, you have someone on screen, like for me, you know, I'm not an actor yet, but I sit there and I, I'm going to throw that in there, but I sit there and I'm watching Jason Bateman. I'm like, I'm wondering what, what that guy's really like in real life. You know what I mean? Because you, you grow up and you see somebody in, in so many multifaceted roles. But, but again, like all to say this episode is not about him. It's about you and your experience within this, uh, within in the series. But dude, I watched the trailer, obviously.

8:49I watched it multiple times because you're in it like three times. I'm like, holy shit, this is really, really cool. Drops the 18th, right? Drops the 18th. What are you allowed to share? I'm assuming you're allowed to share what's public. For those people that haven't gone and watched your trailer and read the synopsis about what this show's about, can you give them something? We're going to take a quick break to hear from our Powered By sponsor. We're proud to announce a partnership between White Sands Treatment Centers and the Determined Society. With multiple locations across Florida, White Sands provides luxury top-rated addiction treatment from medical detox and inpatient care to outpatient support and long-term aftercare.

9:32Their resort-style campuses, expert clinicians, and holistic programs create real lasting recovery. Together, we're committed to bringing hope, resources, and healing to those who need it most. White Sands Treatment Centers. Sure. And I mean, if this is going to come out a few days after it airs or after it's available to the public. It probably will. Yeah, then there's not much that I need to be tight-lipped on. um but for safety's sake i mean what i can share is that it's exhilarating it's highly propulsive it's it's very much um well it's a layered show though man there's there's definitely there are tons and tons of moments where it is a an action thriller you know there's a bag of money and a gun and like you know who's gonna get it who's you know and and then there are other god really really nuanced and beautiful moments where it is a family drama where it is a story of um siblings and the the dynamic between them and and what happens when these two people who grew up in the same house ended up very different people who actually despite growing up in the same house maybe had two very different experiences and that and that consequently led to them ending up on the opposite side of the spectrum.

11:06And and is that conducive to success? And sometimes with siblings, it can be. And then sometimes it it can be debilitating. and how many of us have a relationship with a sibling or a family member where, man, they're fun to be around, but they're sort of toxic and they kind of get in trouble whenever you're with them or, you know, they're volatile and you might say the wrong thing that might set them off and then, you know, and so the show is really fun to watch And like I said, really productive and sort of easy to just get like locked in on. But there's also, it's really highly relatable content because we, it doesn't really matter where you come from socioeconomically even or culturally, like that's just a through line in families.

12:02Like there's just, there's bound to be some drama and some volatility and, and we all directly or indirectly know what that feels like. You know, we've either seen it or, or been in it before. And, and I think the show does a really good job of threading all of that. that's interesting because like as you're going through that like you know i mean of course i have you know angela my sister we have two different definitions of our childhood and that's not to say hers is wrong or mine is right or vice versa but like every family has different dynamics and i love the fact that you're pointing out that this show kind of shows that because you know there could be five siblings in a house and every single one of them is going to be different they're going to view their parents differently they're going to view each other differently one's going to be closer to maybe one or two of them and maybe despise one of them for for reasons that are beyond any one of their control to be quite honest it's just you know the conditioning of the environment so i think that's interesting dude that that's an that's a very dynamic piece from what i'm hearing about this film i'm excited to see it yeah it's cool and the idea too that like you know those those differences can arise in in childhood or as a consequence of their childhood or even you know sometimes i feel like i've got three kids upstairs and they all grew up with the same parents and the same loving home but they're three different souls those are three different beings and they butt heads sometimes because of that but what's what's sort of interesting about the show or or what what some of it is about is is that no matter where we go in life or how we grow or how far apart we we grow some of that stuff stays some of that stuff stays the same you're at 40 years old in some ways despite or within all the growth elsewhere there's still that same kid in there and like you know in the same pain or trauma or or joy or you know whatever lessons you you took from that childhood like you carry those things with you all the time um and the show really kind of touches on that you know and um how much patience do you have for this person and how much tolerance do you have and and then like even if you run out of patience or tolerance you still love them you could be like be like addicted to this bad family member because you just love them or you feel them or you know where they came from and and so you continuously it's interesting it's very interesting dude because you're talking about we'd be in our 40s you know we've grown so many different ways but there's that little boy or little girl they're still dealing with the trauma it's so it's so crazy to me because as you're as you're walking through that like i can think of many relationships within my family right many of them and it's like love them but it's also i've grown in so many different areas but i still hold on to certain things and it's hard to get through them it is really hard to get you know what i mean because like how do you how do you go back like how do you you know circumvent and just like hey let's pick this back up like where did we go wrong because you fear that the reaction is going to be the same as it was 10 years ago.

15:31So you fall into this area where like everything is just status quo and you just continue living your life and growing, but then you don't know that other person. That's right. Yeah. And it's such a, and that's such a, just like a, it's just a part of the human experience for so many of us. And I think that it was really smart of, uh, Zach Balin and Kate Sussman are the two creators of the show. They wrote the whole thing and, um, really intelligent of them to to make this show that's really fun to watch and it's dark and there's like like i said and there's many moments where it's a bag of money and a gun and a cat and mouse and you know good guys bad guys that sort of shit but threaded through all of that is is this sort of emotional turmoil and this family dynamic that so many of us know all too well even if we never talk about it.

16:25And so like all of a sudden you're watching this thing and you're not, you might not even tell the person you're watching it with like, damn, that's me and my sister. That's me and my brother. But in here, you're going to be like, oh, I know exactly what he's feeling right now. It's crazy because I was watching, I've watched the trailer a few times, like I said. And when you're talking about like the gun and a bag of money, the intensity, the darkness, but then Bateman will throw in some fucking weird humor. You know, like he showed up at the thing, he said there were no shoes on. Like, I got a good price on the bus.

17:03He's like, you sold your fucking shoes on the bus. He's like, I'm chipping away at this motherfucker, you know? And it's just, I'm doing, yes, I'm doing my part. And it's just like, he's super serious because his back's against the wall, but it's still funny ass Jason Bate. Yeah. Yeah, of course. I think that, you know, he, God, he's such a brilliant performer. and he's so circling back to the experience of working with him like he's so fun to work with because of that he's real loose and jude plays it that way too fast and loose like yeah we've done our work because we're disciplined people we've done our prep we know the scene back and forth we know my lines your lines his lines her lines now we're here let's let all of that go and play and we'll just see where we land where we end up what comes out organically in this moment and so many times kind of what naturally falls out of jason's mouth it's like it's it's right on tone and it's perfectly fitted in that in that moment and in that scene but it's also just like funny and um that's such weaponry to have and and he knows that he's a self-aware artist and he'll just whip that shit out whenever whenever he wants to and he'll break you in the scene sometimes but but he's he's hip to that too he knows he's gonna and you break and he's like okay you ready let's take it back take it back and then we go again and he says the same thing again and it lands works and you know um and he's fun to work with as a director too for those reasons because he he wants you to play like that and that that brings uh that elevates your own performance you know again as long as you've done all the prep work and you've done your job and you've shown up um tom hanks years ago there's an interview where he said and i don't i think he said that he heard somebody else say this but he says you know your job is show up on time know your lines and have an idea and and unfortunately there's so many times where you know where i've ended up on set and whoever i'm across from hasn't done those things um and ultimately just makes it's it's not good for them you know the rest of us will figure out a way around that will you know but um he's he's a great director to work with if you have done those things because he wants your idea and and like he wants you to play he wants you know you're like what if i did then he's like don't even tell me just go let's go let's see what happens and like man that that's so conducive to success on camera and that's that's pretty cool because i we had a conversation on the phone the other day you know i said you know i don't know if i'd ever be able to memorize like line for line for and he's like no dude like the great ones they have an idea they've done their work but then they just go with what feels naturally how much of that really happens on on camera a ton i mean you know it um it can be specific to the set there there are certainly sets you're on um where it's a little more rigid where it's a little more or a lot more about the writing and you know like we work on a david simon show like tremay or the deuce you know you don't mess with david simon or george pelicanos is writing because they're brilliant or richard price talking about these guys are novelists and and journalists and like they words are their weaponry and so like don't mess with those because there's rhythm and and beats built into the words it's like shakespeare like just just say the text just do it just memorize the shit and do it and do it what did you what did you this character you know your role that you played in this in this uh series what did you learn about yourself because i know like a lot of times man you know talk about actors and actresses they they take on the role right they take on that personality was there any of that going on and and basically like what what did this what did this role teach you yeah what's great about babbit my character's name is uh Ryan Babbitt.

21:01And a lot of the times in my career, which I'm, which I'm grateful for, I've been really lucky to do a lot of character work. Like I've played a lot of characters and or real people that didn't look like me or sound like me or walk like me or, you know, and, and, and certainly in, in my more villainous work, like that didn't feel like me at all, you know, where I'm, I'm doing mental Olympics to justify their actions because every bad guy thinks he's saving the world in his own way. you know like bad guys don't think they're they think they're the hero and with with babbit i didn't have to do a lot of that or i didn't have to do much like soul searching to find this guy because he's he's a smart guy who's maybe too smart to be this like um callow amateurish criminal but he got into some trouble right out of high school.

22:05And so he couldn't go to college and, or he could go, or he could go to college, but he didn't, he didn't think he was going to be able to get a good job because he, you know, spent some time in prison and, and he gets out and, and what he has done while he's in prison is he's, he's developed a relationship via loyalty and keeping his mouth shut to this crime boss by Troy concert. And so that's obviously different from my life. albeit that I had you know I had some checkered years and I had some moments and and so I could pull from those experience to relate to Ryan but other than that he's really like he's a good man who's ended up in uh an unsavory profession and he's he's he's doing his best to like get to a higher place in life which me too like i'm i'm just trying to elevate every day i'm just trying to what what can i do to make this all work a little smoother and be a little easier you know and um and and babbit is doing the same thing but um oftentimes with characters i like i like to find a way that that they're a better man than me or they're better at something than i am to then give me incentive to like get better like let me let me not only you know take this character and try and deliver it properly on screen but how can i utilize this character work and capitalize on something to to better myself um and i could go into the ways that other characters have done that for me but with ryan with babbitt i felt like he's he's more disciplined than me maybe and in the moment when i was building him i was like okay obviously like i want him to be big and dangerous and jacked and and so like i'm gonna work out but i've done that before i've i've ripped up guys for for character work before and so i was like what what's even more like what and then what's maybe surprising about him and i was like well my counterpart in this show i have like partner in crime and he's an he's a bit of an addict and and it's not in any way that's like a big um it's not a big story point or anything like that it's just there and the reason that that you sort of get away with it just being there is because the audience or even you know me the audience says i'm reading the script and it's like you know he he does a bump of cocaine you don't even go like oh he's an addict he's a criminal and so you're like oh yeah of course And it means nothing to you.

24:48And so for me, I was like, what if, what if it's Babbitt, he's fully sober and clear and he doesn't just work out. He he's paleo and he doesn't drink alcohol and he has never done a drug. Like he is a consummate professional in this dirty, grimy criminal underworld. and yeah and it was and ultimately what it did is that you know i look better i think on on screen on this show that i've ever looked because i i'm healthier than i ever was but what i learned about myself as a consequence of that action was that those things work and that i feel better when i'm healthy and when i'm sober and i mean god this is revelatory i don't know if anybody's ever said this out loud before, but I replaced alcohol with water and I feel amazing.

25:41Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I don't touch alcohol, dude. Yeah. I mean, Chris, like I got to tell you, man, like I went through my own journey, man. And it's almost like, you know, you go through this, these points in times where you look at your life and you're like, why am I stuck? Like, why am I not elevating to where I want to be? Because you know the potential that you have. I think everybody, if they sit there and say like, I really don't know what I'm capable of. I just think they're afraid to voice it out loud or even to acknowledge it because then they have to move on it. Right. So the fear takes over.

26:11But like I had to, dude, I had to get on fat, bro. Like I was like, this is too much. I have to watch what I eat. I have to work out constantly and I have to, I have to lean the hell up. And the moment I did that, everything for me changed. Like literally everything because, because dude, it brings the level of discipline and you, the type of confidence you build. when you're doing something very, very difficult. It's like the one thing, right? For me, that's what my one thing was. For you or for somebody else, it might be something completely different. Could be they just need to read more, but they're stuck and they don't, right?

26:48And once you take care of that one thing that cleans up your side of the street, you never grow to a point that you're supposed to. But dude, when you talk about replacing alcohol with water, man, I used to be at the point where the only time I'd really drink, would be college football season. We've just completed week three. I've had zero drinks. Like I just don't, dude, honestly, like I'm not against people drinking. Me neither. I'm not this, I never had a problem, you know, but like I just don't like the way it makes me feel. It makes me sluggish. I'm not as dialed in. I'm not as disciplined.

27:24So why the hell would I do it? If it doesn't make my boat go faster, I ain't touching it. Right. And even, and I'm okay with the language that I'm just, i've gotten older then it affects me more or whatever like you know i didn't know that similarly you know you're talking about football season like yesterday you know opening sunday i'm at a buddy's house for like football day we're all watching three quarters of them are beer drinkers bourbon drinkers whatever i don't even think anybody noticed that i drank 12 seltzer waters you know and nothing else but i would have noticed had i had i had a beer and i just don't have a desire that's not necessarily true it's not that i don't have a desire to have a beer every now and then or something still but i just know that i don't really need it and that like i'll feel better tomorrow if i don't and i have kind of gotten addicted to that i've gotten addicted to to feeling kind of better every day and and in my workouts like it's just like kind of like you said man like once i once i eliminated that thing just wild how societally like we're sort of conditioned even via movies and television shows or whatever like just people are always drinking they're just always grabbing a beer drinking you know and that's and again i got no issue with anybody who drinks you know to each their own but we're sort of conditioned to think that like it's it's not really that big of a deal and the it's out of whack how much better it made me feel when I stopped doing it, if indeed it's not really a big deal.

29:01And I was lucky physically, like you said earlier, like, you know, I've always worked out and I maintain pretty well and via my occupation, like it pays me to stay fit. And so I stayed fit through those years while I was still drinking. And so I didn't have this in the mirror reminder that like, yo, that you should stop doing this. but it's still man like as soon as i stopped like just i wake up better my workouts are are easier my progress after the workout comes faster my my thoughts are quicker and clearer my vocabulary increased like it was like in so many things like just started feeling like oh all of my functions are operating at a higher capacity now.

29:54Well, now you can do your job better too. Exactly. Why would I ever go back? It's like I turned up the volume cerebrally a little bit, and now I'm addicted to that feeling. I love that, dude. Dude, turn up the volume cerebrally. That is a great explanation for it. I'm just so much more in touch with certain things, you know, like even my intuition. Right. Like I'm very locked in on it now. Whereas before, you know, I could be wrong about that. I'm not saying I'm a hundred percent on. I'm not. Jackie will tell you that I'm, she's way more on intuition than I am, but like, how many, how many figures, how many figures are you holding up over here?

30:3917. It's just one. So just one. Dang it. So I was missing the, just the one, just the one. There he is. chris is finally here threw me the bird on the camera god dang man i love you i love you man i'm i'm really excited to see this man like okay so you said you loved it you said you loved it you got to screen it you've seen it yeah everything i almost asked you last time i'm like give me your login to your netflix bitch but no yeah hey hey hey they're hip to that it only works on one device i know they are gosh it's like the the freaking the netflix police nah dude i i'm gonna wait until it comes out it's only a couple weeks dude so yeah you know i'm i'm jacked up about it and i'll always love the characters you know you can just sit there oh you guys you're not doing the two episodes like and then i guess netflix doesn't really do that netflix uh drops it all at once and it's globally with this one so like following you do that yeah They do do that on the damn love is blind.

31:47It pisses me off. Oh, maybe. Okay. Sure. Sure. Well, with my reality shows. Yeah. I love my reality shows at all. That's good, man. So you'll Jackie will wake up in the middle of the night. See me on night one. Yeah. I'm in the morning. Yeah. How many episodes is it? It's eight episodes. Lovely. Yeah. And you know, it's pretty, pretty fast paced. You know, kind of hard to put down. Okay. But then, like, with enough relief in there to kind of, like, where you stop sweating, you know, and let your heart rate come down and, you know, enjoy some drama. And then, like, here we go again. There was one show.

32:34I can't remember what it was. Like, my heart rate was up the whole damn time. I can't remember what it was. Oh, it was Adolescent. Adolescent. Oh, yeah. Yeah. People love that show. I haven't seen it yet. Watch it. Yeah. It's crazy. It parallels real life so much, dude. And I was actually on Piers Morgan show and we talked about that the first time I was on and it was just like my first exposure to like big media. And I'm like, what the hell's going on? Like this is, you know, people are actually literally talking about Hollywood impacting real life. And I've seen it in so many different areas.

33:12Like you look at the Benendez brothers, right? That limited series came out and they got another, they got a retrial, right? They got a resentencing or whatever. And then, you know, Amy Bradley disappeared on a cruise how many years ago now? Oh, we think she's alive.

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35:45So you're about to make a trade based on a friend's text. But which you do you listen to? Is it, we could buy a house in Tulum. Get optioning those options. We could lose everything. Or let's do a little research. Get your head in the trade and make the investment decision that's right for you. learn more at finra.org slash trade smart i was just gonna say like yeah oh 1000 percent she even kind of like kind of looks like monica or something there's like a little bit of i feel like there's a little bit of monica in there yeah maybe i want to know that she's she's like i'm hispanic courtney cox is not like oh here we go with hispanic yeah yeah heard heard yeah but dude start landing the plane here I think I read somewhere that you have something else coming out in 2026 are you allowed to talk about that or yeah yeah yeah which I shot at the same exact time which was maybe the most baller I've ever felt like I was that's badass dude I was in New York shooting Black Rabbit and they would have to like schedule me out and wrap me so I could race to the airport hop on a flight fly to Atlanta and then film this movie with Anne Hathaway and Ewan McGregor and it's called Flowervale Street and they've already released some photos and stuff so I can say that it's like a it sort of presents itself as like a family drama but then at a certain point it becomes this epic dinosaur film oh really?

37:26that's interesting what's that? were you a T-Rex? Pterodactyl pterodactyl yeah I got wings baby um but um so yeah that'll come out in it's like a year from now it's like August of 2026 because it's an IMAX release and so um for whatever reason that incentivized them to lock in this date quite a bit down the road but that's cool yeah it's fun uh when it comes to what your family eats and drinks you know your choices matter You're the expert because you know what fits your life. And getting it right starts with good information. That's why America's beverage companies are sharing more information about our ingredients at goodtoknowfacts.org.

38:17No spin, no judgments, just the facts straight from the experts for more than 140 beverage ingredients. Visit goodtoknowfacts.org. And Hathaway. yeah i got to play a bit with her and ewan mcgregor and that's sick both fine people you and and uh jude were roommates when they were in their early 20s in london it was the two of them yeah and the two of them and angelina jolie and um in one apartment one house one one flat in london and johnny lee miller who ended up marrying angelina years later but um yeah the four of them are all in this apartment in their 20s before any of them made it. So wild.

39:03Ewan was like telling me stories about Jude was like the loser sleeping on the couch who never paid his rent and like and I would like I would be in Atlanta and Ewan would like tell me a story and then I would fly back to New York and I'd relay that story to Jude and he'd be like yeah that's true. Did he tell you I stole it? You were the shit star. You were stirring shit. I was kind of a little bit but like on this like major league level like it was like oh absolutely it's the big leagues you know it was so much fun yeah it's like that's freaking awesome and they're but they're both great sports mounted and uh it was fun you know that's good man dude i thank you thank you for coming on man and uh i love you too man this is such a blessing bro so good to see you i can't wait to see you on the screen dude i want to get you i want to get you and the family out here to the house too let's do a little let's do it you know i'll text your call you here after and set something up yeah dude um hit me up uh tomorrow actually i got i'm slamming the rest of the day but hit me up tomorrow we'll get with jackie and we'll do it because i need some time with my cousin bro yeah man don't see the farm you know that'd be fun dude it's been like a week there you should do like a week do it yeah i'm dude i'm down trust me you stay much longer than a week and i'll like make you help me with renovations and shit so like a week's like a nice i'll bring my tidy whities i'll bring my tidy whities i don't have any i'll go buy some okay and you know you'll wake up and you're like alice was shaking her head and you're like what's what's going on she goes i was wondering how long into the interview we would get before it got real nice and weird i mean yeah i'm kind of disappointed like yeah yeah a lot longer than i thought but you know we're both a little more locked down than we than we were like we have to we have to be a certain way now we've grown up we've grown up i'm proud of us yeah i mean imagine that dude imagine that we grew up actually that shit's crazy before we go i gotta say man speaking of growing up you're just earlier talking about jay leno and and you're on truce morgan and all that stuff like i know you bro i remember i know you know where we came from and like it's so beautiful watching you become emblematic of what your show represents like you you are the determined society you you are such you're not just the host you're like you're the mascot you're you're such a picture of determination it's it's a beautiful thing and uh i mean that i love you i'm proud of you man well thank you i mean i i you know i get compliments from time to time but to hear it come from family that knows my struggle, knows my demons, you know, knows everything about me.

41:51It means more, dude. So thank you, dude. And likewise, man, I know where you've come from. You know, I I've known what you've gone through and to see you out there still killing it. And you, you mentioned something earlier in the show, you know, you're, you know, maybe don't go do that. I remember the, I remember those moments. I remember when there was this massive, like drama around you graduating early in the administration at the time, um, of the high school you went to, I don't want to put them on blast, but it fucking Google search guys. It's not that hard. Um, but like I, uh, I look at it and I, and I always kind of sat there and I'm just like, what's the big deal?

42:38like he has a dream like if someone told me right now like you know or back then like I remember I can't remember what song to I think I might have been talking to my mom and I go if someone told me right now to go grab a bat and catch his glove in the catcher's mitt and report to the Oakland Athletics I would have done it in two seconds so I commend you dude because there weren't it wasn't all sunshines and rainbows dude no they held like a meeting with the administrators cool and brought me which again that's what I was saying earlier it was like people who cared about us it wasn't like it wasn't shmo being like he shouldn't do that you know it's a pipe dream it was like people who were intelligent enough to sort of read the stats and cared enough about us to be to they thought they were being protected um but yeah like you know that that principal and and every other administrators sat me down and were like you have other options there's scholarship here and there's you know you should go do something else and um looking back and and really in the moment i remember being like proud of of that moment as well but in hindsight even more so like i love that i was just like sorry not sorry guys i'm going you never waver you never waver you you there was not ever a question of what you were going to do yeah i mean this is this is maybe too personal and and only you know you you know exactly what i'm talking about but that was grandma you know grandma was in this year my whole life being like you can do anything man tell them all to go to hell go get go get it maybe yeah well yeah we're still working on it but but now i pass down those same sentiments to my kids you know i tell them all the time like I'm a dreamer and I'm still working on it but like I'm every day right in front of you there's proof like it can be done it doesn't matter what anybody tells you you can you can figure this shit out you'll appreciate this man so this morning you know every Monday I take the kids to school um because Jackie has meetings and she can't take them so I take them get in there a little bit later and Mia was sitting there I was eating with her this morning right she goes i am so lucky to have you as my dad i'm like nah kid it's the other way around i'm lucky that you're my daughter because you make me the father yeah you your brother and your sister she was she was no she goes i was at school the other day and my friend came up to me and said, your dad is the determined society.

45:18That is so cool. And I'm like, wait, hold on a second. Dude, Mia's freaking six. She's in kindergarten. I'm like, Mia, I think you have it messed up. I don't think your friend came to school talking about me and my show. She goes, he did. You're friends with his mom, Paul's mom. I'm like, this is wild to me. And he goes, you know, daddy, it's just really cool because you just, you just help people. and I, and I think that I don't think I'm anything special. I, I, I truly don't, man. And, but when you're saying like you pass it down to your kids, it, it came up with that thought because, you know, I have three, just like you, you know, two girls and two, our karma, two girls, like four girls between seeing the two of us, Jesus Christ.

46:05Um, but I look at it and And it's just like each one of them has their own set of abilities and talents. Like Mia for her entrepreneurship project, like, oh, she's not in kindergarten. She's in first grade. I apologize. She, I guess, got done with kindergarten last year. Great dad I am. Here we go. Well, her project, she's like, I want to do an entrepreneur project, but I want to do with you. I was like, okay, what do you want to do? She goes, Panda talk. I'm like, what's that? she goes my podcast let's build it i'm like what so we did a poster board of you know this whole concept of panda talk but you know helping children get through their big feelings and how to communicate them to their peers and their their parents and their teachers and so like i'm doing this with her and i'm like why do you want to do this because you show me it's easy i was like oh okay i didn't get too deep with i'm like god this is the hardest thing i've ever done but like you know you make it look easy the fact that that's cool i don't know about that dude i appreciate that but god you know i look at i look at some of the old stuff i'm like i can't even go back but i think that's anybody i think if you don't if if if if you're not looking back on this path you're on and and seeing some wreckage back there i mean then you probably weren't you know doing something risky or hard enough you know it should be kind of messy but you know I love that you're just now finding out I love that you're just now finding out that most of the demographic that watches your show is elementary school kids we all knew

47:49we're like minded you're the same maturity level you know they're not playing up to me I can tell you that I'm going down to them I'm like, yeah, it was just kind of amazing to me. I was like, well, I don't see that on my analytics. I think he's, I think he's lying. He's a little liar. Yeah. Maybe he's using his parents account. Nah, but dude, dude, this has been such a fun time for me, man. And I'm super excited for your, uh, your show to come out. And I just, I just can't wait, dude. Can't wait. So, um, let me ask you one more, uh, quick question here. So this is a determined society, right?

48:20And I want to know what your true definition of determination is. um uh i think that this goes back to you know this is sort of a theme throughout what we're talking about i feel like but it's always disciplined for me man it's that it's that motivation comes and goes and is an external an externally created force it's you know things around you are going good or you see something that you're inspired by and it motivates to or you know the inverse life's been exhausting and you're tired and you're unmotivated now but discipline comes from within and and for me i'm always trying to focus on what can i control i can decide that i'm working out whether i'm whether i feel like it or not i can um and you know we could go into microcosms of that whatever it is you know getting in the ice bath like god I don't want to fucking do this right now, but we're getting in because I said so.

49:25And, and then once we're in, we're staying in for the full five minutes because I said so. And my mind and my, my mind and my body might be like, get out, get out. But that thing in me, that's actually driving your soul, your whatever you want to call it. Because I said so, man, we're not, we're not stopping. And dude, I, that fires me up bro because that right there is something that i want the audience to really write down because i said so because there's something going on in their life right now that they say you know what i'm going to do this tomorrow but then tomorrow comes and they don't do it so what happens in those moments is you tell yourself that you can't trust yourself like if you break your word to yourself and you can lie to people and which i don't i don't can i don't know what you mean you know yeah i don't i'm not saying go lie to people but you can they may not never know the truth but you know when you break a promise to yourself and it's usually those moments you break the promise yourself you miss out on opportunity for growth and success so because i said so i mean damn it damn it damn it that's it and consistently doing so i think that the other um i mean i quoted tom hanks earlier i might as well do denzel too those are my two favorite guy and uh i go back to this a lot denzel and he has he has been filmed and quoted saying this in multiple venues and scenarios but uh he says dreams without goals are just dreams and ultimately they fuel disappointment and on the road to achieving your goals you must apply discipline and more importantly consistency because without commitment you'll never start but without consistency, you'll never finish.