Olivia Mock Shares The Truth About Self-Love, Fitness & Discipline

11:25Olivia Mock:But people overlook it because they go, well, if I, if this doesn't work for a week, then something's wrong with me. I just can't lose weight. And it's just, it, it drives me crazy because like, what was ever created good in a week, even two, even three. Now you can, if you do it the right way after week one, you can see massive results, but you have to be disciplined.

11:46Shawn French:Yeah. And to your point with the walking and how it is discredited, like even when I started checking club, I would tell people like, you should check in, you know, cause of course I'm reaching out to my immediate circle and connections and people I know when I first started and they're like, I can't do it. And I'm like, why? And they're like, well, I only go for walks. I don't work out. And I'm like, there's no only like you go for a walk. And I think we, we like bully people into thinking that your efforts aren't enough. But like you said, like everybody has a day one, they start somewhere, whether you make it to day seven, not everybody can do that.

12:18Shawn French:And I saw this quote and it's like, everybody knows the pain of starting, but not everybody knows like the strength and success you feel when you finish because not everybody can get there because our mental is weak. And, and to your point, like you have to get past the first week and the second week and the third week. And, you know, I don't know. I do, I do think that as a society, like we tell people like when it's hard, that means, you know, you just got to quit.

12:45Olivia Mock:Well, our brains are, are wired to keep us safe and to stay away from risk. Right. And that's great for some things like scaling a freaking mountain. Okay. But when we're talking about becoming better, you know, mentally, physically, we can understand that we get one body,

13:02Shawn French:right?

13:03Olivia Mock:We get one body and it can either, when you get to be 70 years old, it can either be breaking down on you or you could be strong. And it all happens, you know, early in life, you know, making sure that your joints are good, making sure that your, your muscles are strong. So that way, when you deteriorate Nash naturally, you're, you're not bone on bone. This is a big deal. It's a big deal. Let me ask you a question. Cause I think, cause you know, we're talking on nutrition and you know, I know, I'm not, I'm not a dietician and I don't think you are either. If I am correct me, your dad thinks he is.

13:34Olivia Mock:He thinks he's everything, but yeah.

13:36Shawn French:My dad has every certification under the sun.

13:40Olivia Mock:He's a certified badass. I do love that. Um, there's something that I haven't seen in the app and I'm not even talking about, you know, a widget or anything like that. And I could be wrong, but I would love to see people sharing their food journey. You know, this is what I had for breakfast, you know, breaking down what good eating really is, because there's a lot of fear mongering around carbohydrates. And I'll admit, like, there's times where I'll just stay away from them. I will, I'm like, I'm not eating them. But I also realized that, you know, that kind of ketosis or carnivore is great if you're really trying to shed And I know there's people out there that are carnivore and are absolutely jacked out of their mind.

14:25Olivia Mock:But, but for me, like you need glycogen to build muscle, right? So, you know, education on what's a good carb, what's a bad carb, right? What's going to fuel your body? And I always look at it as God put it here. I'm going to eat it. If he didn't, I'm going to stay away from it. Now, you know, I know we didn't put pizza here, but sorry, I'm going to eat pizza once in a while. That's my favorite. Yeah, I had some last night. What are your, what are your, yeah. What are your thoughts on that? Like as far as, you know, having people share their food journey and is there a way to encourage that in the app?

14:55Shawn French:So transparently, and I think, you know, just the culture that we live in, like the cancel culture, like you take one step wrong or say one wrong thing. And it's like, you're out of the equation. I really don't like cancel culture, but that's a topic for another day. But I think it makes you hesitant to share other aspects because it's like, I know I don't want to ruffle any feathers by, you know, posting about food. But that is something that I encourage, like checking, like you said, checking in. Yeah, you might be doing a workout that day, but it's the full circle of what it means to check in.

15:29Shawn French:So I encourage that if somebody wants to post, you know, that they achieve their food goal for the day. It's like it's anything that ties into your health and wellness journey. in the beginning I was scared to maybe encourage posting other things because I didn't want you know somebody getting on and be like finish a chess game today like I want to encourage people to stay you know motivated and on track with what we're doing here but no that is a hundred percent a part of you know the journey in the process so if you're watching this and you want to join check-in club I would love for you to show up in that way and you know absolutely I just think

16:03Olivia Mock:it's important for people to check in where they're at. Like, and what I mean by that is as they are, right. Okay. I'm going to check in three days a week, you know, like whatever, that's great, you know, and, and, and put that out there. But the thing that, the thing that's really special about the check-in club is the community. It's really damn cool. I've, I've already said it, but I just really find a lot of value in people showing up and being there for each other and, and just posting one small win, you know, because like, here's what, here's what I think, like when you start your journey, you know, or if you've fallen off and you're getting back on track, you need encouragement and you're not going to always get that from yourself.

16:44Olivia Mock:So it's like, if you can see other people that are out there working hard and you might see somebody that has more ailments than you, I mean, who, who knows? Like one day I can check in and say like, Hey, I don't want to be here, but then maybe there's another person checking in that is in a wheelchair that's going around the block. Like what excuse do I have?

17:01Shawn French:Yeah.

17:01Olivia Mock:And I, and I, and I just think that we need to stop judging ourselves for what we're doing. If we're not doing enough and just, Hey, you're a hundred percent is going to be different every day, but you have to show up.

17:11Shawn French:Yeah. I've been humbled by that for sure. Because I mean, even myself, when I started this, I put a pressure on myself that nobody else is putting on me, but myself. And like, I think for like 45 days, I didn't have a rest day. I'm like trying to get up. You know what I mean? Because I, I'm also a huge believer in leading by example. Like how can I tell people like show up and do these different things when I'm like laying in bed. So I wanted to start, you know, by showing like, I'm not asking you to do anything. I'm not willing to do myself, but you know, as the process is gone, I also know that showing up for yourself and checking in means like sometimes like I need to check in with where I'm at and like, I need a rest day.

17:48Shawn French:But to your other point, seeing some of the stories, like I had a friend who, you know, unfortunately discovered she had a little bit of an illness going on and basically had said, like, I was told that I was going to be in a wheelchair for a year and I just walked my first mile. So things like that, it's like, you, you can't put a price tag on those types of stories or like, even like on a, maybe on a lesser scale physically, like somebody is like, my dog passed away today, but I'm here checking in and I'm going to go do that. It's like, it looks different for everybody. And what checking in actually is like carries different weight for everybody in that same aspect.

18:30It's a good point because again, I keep going back to the check-in club and saying it

18:37Olivia Mock:over and over again, because I want you guys to pay attention first and foremost. Secondly, it's, it's not a check-in on an app. It is. But at the root of it is, are you showing up for yourself? are you pushing through the moments where you emotionally don't want to yeah right because that's the key if you can just go for a walk that day and and and post it you know like that's going to show somebody else you know like yeah you don't have to worry about the caption but if you if you write like hey my dog passed away today i'm emotionally wrecked i just want to stay in bed depressed i had that dog for you know 15 years it was it was their family first and foremost right If I can just show up for myself, post this and say all these things of why I shouldn't be doing this today, but I'm still not taking a zero day, that can inspire somebody else to move in spite of what they're going through that day.

19:25Shawn French:You have no idea. And I actually saw this picture online the other day and it like hit me so hard. It was all these cars stuck in traffic. And one car is like just lost her mom. One car is struggling with the eating disorder. Another car is struggling with self-harm. Like all these people, you have no idea what everybody's carrying. So like when I go through and I'm seeing like, I genuinely mean this from the bottom of my heart. Like I'm overflowing just like, I'm just so proud. I'm proud of everybody for showing up because you know, some people, I know their struggles, other people, I don't even know their name and I'm seeing them on there.

19:59Shawn French:And I'm like, it is beautiful how everybody is making it a priority to show up for themselves. And I encourage people to start small. You know how you were saying like back to eating goals and different things. Like some people are like, I'm going to eat clean for a week. And for some people that might be too big of a goal to start. Like, I think we set ourselves up for failure. If I'm like, I'm not going to have a single gram of sugar for the next 75 days. Like realistically, that's not a goal that's super attainable for somebody who's never done something like that. So start small. There's a feature in the app where you can set your weekly goal, how many times you want to check in.

20:35Shawn French:And that resets every Sunday. And I tell people if you're new to moving your body, if you're new to moving my shit up, man, just so passionate. But if you're new to moving your body and moving five days a week, Like maybe that's something that's going to automatically set you up for failure. Start with two days. Yeah. Tell yourself two days, regardless of what the week presents, I am showing up for myself those two days, regardless, no matter what.

21:01Olivia Mock:That's the danger in a lot of things when you start something, you know, it's like when I started my show or if I'm getting back in shape, I'm not going to say I'm going to record every day.

21:09Shawn French:Yeah.

21:10Olivia Mock:You know, when I started this, I was recording once every three, four weeks out of my car after the gym and I've thought download in the gym. I'd go out there and I vent on it. It sucked. It was terrible. Right.

21:20Shawn French:But it built, built up that muscle.

21:24Olivia Mock:Right. And I look at all the other shows that I went through. I go back and look, I'm like, oh my God, I'm mortified by how bad it was.

21:32Shawn French:Yeah. It's like, why'd I have a Facebook 14 years ago? I'm still trying to figure that answer out.

21:37Olivia Mock:Yeah. But like you just do a little at a time. My whole point is for the people listening is don't base your goals on what you think society expects of you. I think that's a big thing, right? It's like, Oh, if I'm going to be shredded, I got to, you know, wake up at 4am like, like Sean does or like PJ does or, or whatever. It's like, no, I just do it. Cause it works for me. Like if I can sleep till six and work out at seven or eight every day, I would. But the bottom line is too much stuff happens and then it's gonna go by the wayside. So I'm gonna take care of that most important thing right there.

22:11Olivia Mock:And people don't realize like giving back to yourself, the very first thing, like when I get up, I get up at four, gym opens at five. I'm up at four. I'm in the parking lot by four 30. What am I feeling today? It's four 30. What am I, what do I need from, from the word today? Okay. I'm feeling a little anxious. Go on my Bible app, clip on anxiety and I read.

22:32Shawn French:Right.

22:32Olivia Mock:And then I get in the gym and pour into myself. So by the time my kids wake up and I'm making their breakfast, I've had my time with God and I poured into myself. That's when I'm allowed to be selfish in those hours. I'm very selfish in the morning until 6am. Then it's all about them until I get them out the door at 7 15. And then I can go with my work day, but long rant. And I'm probably lost the audience here. Cause I can do that. Cause no, that's a good message, but start working. Literally don't try to do too much.

23:02Shawn French:Yeah.

23:02Olivia Mock:Don't succumb to what you think society wants of you. You don't work out. You never work out, you haven't had a healthy meal in 17 freaking years, go for two walks that week. It's two more than you did the last 17 years. Eat one good meal that week. And you've already bettered yourself from the week before or the 17 years before. I just think that we need to understand the small win, right? And it becomes cliche so much, but like small wins are the actual big wins, right? Those are the, what do they call those, uh, uh, micro movements, right? Or the, you know, then the, the macro is when you see somebody in the, in the world series hitting a walk off home run.

23:47Shawn French:Yeah.

23:47Olivia Mock:That's a macro result.

23:49Shawn French:Yeah.

23:49Olivia Mock:All the micro things, all the work, like, what are we doing? Like start small.

23:54Shawn French:Yeah. I love that. I also think I'm a huge morning person too. And you know, some people, their time for themselves is at night. maybe that's your work schedule maybe that's what works best for your family your kids but I'm the same way like if I don't win the morning I don't win the day like that's just for me personally I know around nine o 'clock I'm gonna have to start work and I've seen firsthand when I don't spend that time on myself in the morning it's not good it's not good for anybody so I think it's important like whatever time of day that is you don't miss out on that

24:27Olivia Mock:it's not good for your relationship either right you're married it's like i'm married three kids horrible for my relationship when i'm when i'm not on track because i'm human it happens yeah right i went through a time we went to ecuador in uh july so for the you know for three months or so i wasn't as consistent and i started noticing the the change in my speech pattern i was slower I'm like, what the hell? Like, okay, I'm, I'm slower. I'm feeling more anxiety. I'm feeling more, I'm pressing more, right? Instead of pushing, there's a difference between pressing and pushing. I was pressing. I'm like, okay, what's the difference?

25:08Olivia Mock:What changed? I'm like, you dumb ass. Like you are not, you are not following through. You are not doing the one thing that makes you great. Cause I, cause I believe everybody has the one thing, right? And I want to share this with the audience. I've shared it with them a thousand different times, but we get new listeners all the time. And you probably haven't heard this story, so I'm going to tell you.

25:31Shawn French:Let's see.

25:33Olivia Mock:The one thing that I always struggled with in my life was feeling good enough and having genuine confidence. And that all came from being overweight as a child and being overweight as an adolescence and into my adulthood. And so I would always yo-yo, right? I would always yo-yo. and I couldn't figure out why I wasn't having the growth that I needed in the show. Here I am having the show about determination and discipline where I looked like a fat freaking mess. I looked the other day and again, like I'm not judging anybody. This is me. This is how I felt about me. I, you know, I love all types of people.

26:08Shawn French:This is, you can only speak to your journey.

26:11Olivia Mock:Yeah. So like, you know, like I think, you know, people misconstrue things like, oh, oh, he doesn't like fat. No, no. I didn't like me fat.

26:17Shawn French:Yeah.

26:18Olivia Mock:Okay. Because it, it, I had no confidence. I didn't like going to vacation and taking my shirt off. Like, like literally like it was one of those things where it was a prison for me. And so here I am having this show about determination discipline, but I didn't look, I didn't look, I wasn't the, I wasn't the guy. I wasn't the part, you know?

26:36Shawn French:So I dove into that and it was

26:40Olivia Mock:just more about me wanting to be healthy for my family. I didn't ever, I don't ever want my son that's back there as two sisters or my wife to wake up one day and I'm not awake because I didn't take care of myself. I had a heart attack or I was sick. Like I want to, I want to combat that. So it started off as self-love because all my other fitness, or is this something I want the audience to really pay attention to right now? You cannot start a fitness journey being the best self out of shame, you will always fail. You will always fail all day and twice on Sunday. Like there's no, like you, you cannot be the best version of yourself leading out of shame.

27:19Olivia Mock:It has to be out of self-love. I love myself so much. So I'm going to do this. I changed my alarm from get up, bitch to, I love you. No, I destroyed, I did. I did. And then, and then I changed it to, I love you, Sean. It's still named. I love you, Sean. My wife saw that. She goes, who the hell wrote that? I go, I did. I wrote that. She goes, why'd you write that? I said, because if I'm going to change, I need to love me. I need to love me right now so I can continue nurturing myself. And as soon as that was taken care of, everything exploded. Everything got big. Everything got clear. All these different opportunities started to come to me.

27:59Olivia Mock:The show got better. I got better. I guess got better. I had more support. I had investors. I had PR. I had an amazing team. All to say, everybody listening right now and watching, when you sit there and you say, I don't know why I'm struggling. I don't know why I don't have the things I want. I don't know why I don't have the money I want. I don't know why I don't have the body I want. Yes, you do. Because it's the one thought you have in your mind that you do not like yourself for.

28:31Shawn French:Yeah. I had a very similar story, honestly. Like I mentioned, you know, my mom -

28:36Olivia Mock:Am I fired up now?

28:36Shawn French:No, that was great. Damn. You got me fired up.

28:39Olivia Mock:Like a cross between Fergie and Jesus. It's a stepbrothers reference for any of you people that - I love it.

28:44Shawn French:No, I love it. But I had a similar story. Like I said, my mom was in the fitness industry and I felt like people would always like, like this sounds dramatic, but they would look at me and be like, there's no way like that's her daughter because I was a little bowling ball. And, but it affected me so much because all my friends were, you know, they were tall and thin. And as a young girl going through school, like that takes a toll on you. Like I felt like none of the boys liked me and different things like that. And I don't know, it truly does weigh on you and your confidence over time. But I feel the same way now that I take care of myself.

29:17And I feel like when I stopped working out to produce a result that was

29:22Shawn French:based on the outside, I felt like that's when I truly got going. And that's how Checking club came about and all these different things that i'm passionate about because like you said when you start from a place of like I'm doing this because I hate myself Your your mind hears that and feels that and it's going to produce a result that ultimately doesn't last Yeah, and so I don't know. I think I tell people all the time like if my friends are like i'm feeling sad i'm like you've been working out lately and not in a way that's like You're Out of shape like get up, but it's like I truly believe that that aspect of our lives pours into everything else.

29:58Shawn French:And I don't know, I always tell people I'm like, whether it's 45 minutes in the morning or whatever, like 45 minutes for a better eight, 12 hours. Like that's a, that is a really good trade.

30:08Olivia Mock:I mean, think about that. You stack that up, you know, over, you know, the week, the month, the year.

30:12Shawn French:Yeah.

30:13Olivia Mock:Like it's important, right? Yes. You know, it's, it's, it's funny because I think everybody starts from a place of shame in something, right? No matter if they grew up poor, right. They become big business moguls because they have that insecurity of like, I don't want to, I don't want my family going through what I went through. It's kind of a place of shame. But when they finally get over the shame part, that's when they really take off. So it's just, it's super important to talk about because, you know, and I love the fact that it's your origin story too, because I can relate to that. I think it's powerful for the audience, right?

30:46Olivia Mock:Powerful for people listening because, you know, it, even if you just did a stretch, like i don't like i don't know like a lot of people that just sit there and like okay i feel tight i'm gonna go stretch right no they sit down they sit down so like here's something important too because there's a lot of people listening and a lot of moms out there that are so busy you know and i think about my wife who is gorgeous and you know blessed in genetics the moms don't always have time to pour into themselves because mom psychology is so much different right um they go go to work come home like help the kids with the homework i'm doing the dinner you know she has work to do some grading to do and then all of a sudden what's left for me you know i'm not saying her she's saying that i don't say that um but But for those lit, even just getting down on the ground, right.

31:49Olivia Mock:And opening up your phone, checking in. I can't get to the gym because I don't have way too many commitments, but I just did 50 pushups.

31:57Shawn French:Yeah. We had that happen. We have a group, a community called moms in motion. And I love it. You like how I teed that up? Yeah. I love that. No, but it's like people laughing.

32:06Olivia Mock:That shit was intentional. He's a mastermind. He's a mastermind.

32:10Shawn French:Well, you know, but you know, really it is crazy because I find myself, I'm like, I'm too tired. I have a dog. I have a dog. These people are chasing, these moms are chasing around real human beings and they're making time for themselves, regardless of what that looks like. Let's do away with the X. I'm not saying like you have to go to CrossFit. Otherwise it doesn't count as a check-in. Like you're saying, sometimes I've actually had moms be like, I did 25 pushups in 10 minutes of core on YouTube. That's incredible. Like the fact that you're finding time. And I will say like my mom, one thing, like I remember specifically through every age of my life, I watched her show up for herself and I never understood why that was a priority, but I can confidently say like, now that it's my own journey, I'm like, I want to be like that.

33:00Shawn French:She always made time to take care of herself. My mom looks amazing. And, you know, I, she has spent years and years and years of putting in, you know, that time and work for herself. So.

33:10Olivia Mock:It's important. And I'm glad you went, we went there with mom's emotion, right? Because, and again, it truly was intentional because I saw that. It's a thing where, you know, even if, because people judge themselves too quickly, there's moms right now listening. Let's say, well, I only have time for five pushups. What is that going to do? It's five more than you've been doing. Five more than you did yesterday. And it's commendable, right? Yes. Do your five pushups. But guess what? You do that for three days in a row. And then funny, that fourth day you managed to do eight. And then you get into this mode where like, okay, I'm going to do eight for three days.

33:46Olivia Mock:Then I'm going to get to 10. And that adds up. But that's back to that starting with goals that are attainable.

33:52Shawn French:Yeah. Like if you're to your wife, like when she has these days that are crazy busy and she's working and being a mom and being a wife, it's like maybe she starts with five. But that's a doable goal for what she's working through right now. So I know.

34:10Olivia Mock:My friend is giving us a home gym. I know I'm so blessed, right? So soon we're going to get.

34:17Shawn French:If any of my friends want to give me a home gym, please let me know because I'm very interested in that type of friendship.

34:23Olivia Mock:Yeah, exactly. Right. Exactly. So I'm going to put it in the garage and then I'm going to be able to go in the garage with her when the kids go down and work with her a little bit. I love that. Yeah. So much. She's someone to pick it up because I'm not putting a hitch on my truck. I'll probably crash it over the freaking.

34:37Shawn French:What is it? It's like a pre-built home gym. Yeah. They got to break it down. When you see a house like on the highway, I'm like.

34:41Olivia Mock:Yeah. No, no. But you know, like those things with the Smith machine, you know. Yeah. All that stuff. So it's got to be taken apart. Then it's got to be, you know, transported, but that's how I'm going to support her. And then too, if there's days where, you know, I didn't, maybe I didn't have time to finish my workout because, you know, I'm a hard stop at 555. Cause I want to get home and be there for my kids and help them get out the door and make their breakfast.

35:06Shawn French:You are very regimented. I remember when we were trying to set up a phone call and I had just missed you. And I was like, I can call you back. And you're like, I'm in dad mode. And I respected that so much because I am, I'm not a girl dad. I'm the opposite. What's the opposite? My brain isn't firing. I don't know. I'm a daddy's girl.

35:25Olivia Mock:You're a daddy's girl. There you go. Yes. Okay.

35:27Shawn French:And when I see another dad like acting in a way that like your kids will honor that and remember that. So I wanted to say that about you because sometimes when you watch somebody on a podcast or something and they're saying these things that sound good, you're like, yeah, that guy, he might not know. He actually, he actually does that.

35:44Olivia Mock:So it's funny. And I thank you for that. You know, it's one of the things that when I meet people, because it's starting to be like, I'll go to Wawa and I'll run in and someone will come in and they're like, Hey, I know you. And that's pretty cool. And I'm like, yeah, man. I was like, I recognize you. I followed you back. They're like, dude, you're the same person. I'm like, what do you mean? like I get confused I'm like is there is there a clone straight up and I'm like what the what do you mean he goes no most people have this on-camera presence or social media presence and they're not the same person in real life I'm like I'm a shitty actor right so like there's no way I could pull this off and then go do something else I think I go crazy I don't have multiple personalities yeah

36:27Shawn French:but it's that idea like people say never meet your heroes because of that reason of like

36:30Olivia Mock:disappointment and i've i've i've had conversations with people that i'm like i really like this dude he's freaking amazing and i have a podcast with him i'm like this is a while back this is a while back you're not talking about me right no not you well you're not a guy true true i'm just kidding

36:47Shawn French:i'm kidding just it's 2025 i was gonna say that it's 2025 we can be open here yeah we love them

36:54Olivia Mock:all we're neutral here don't cancel me no don't cancel her not yet not yet too early in my career But no, I mean, I really pride myself on that, you know, and the thing with, with the kids, like my, my son and my two daughters, I don't know if they'll ever understand how much, like, God damn it. You're going to make me cry on my show. They'll never know how much I love them. Like they'll, I think the only way that they will ever understand is when they are a parent themselves. and when they have to send their kids out in the world, you know, and go to school every day, I scared shitless to send them to school and they go to a very safe school.

37:28Shawn French:But, you know,

37:29Olivia Mock:I just think that those times are important, right? Because, you know, the dad mode, like it'll, it'll happen all the time. Like my partners, they'll call me at four dad mode.

37:39Shawn French:Yeah.

37:39Olivia Mock:I can, I can talk at eight, you know, like I'm, I'm down to do that, but I don't, I spent too much time when I was building this right away from them. I was recording downstairs and they were upstairs. So now it's like, when I leave here, unless I have to hop on a quick call, like I'm yours.

38:00Shawn French:Yeah.

38:01Olivia Mock:You know, I'm yours because it's important. And I think that the other thing that, that helped me draw that boundary you're talking about was me being disciplined in the gym. because there's certain times for certain things. And from four to seven 30, eight o 'clock, it's them. Yeah. I will confidently say to like a large part in how we view ourselves

38:25Shawn French:and how we understand love is, you know, the love that we receive from our parents, but also specifically dads, like dads have a really big calling on their lives to lead their family. and my dad as you know he just had his seventh anniversary of sobriety and you know we've always had this close relationship but over the last seven years the ways that I've seen him like in this sober-minded reality show up for me and you know things that I used to know because as a kid like you notice everything like I would be like all right I told him my friend's name like 10 times and he still doesn't remember and now he's like you have a dentist appointment on Thursday at 8 15 Right.

39:05Shawn French:And I'm like, wow. So it goes so far, like in the way that I view love because of, you know, the relationship that I have with my dad, like is so important. And I know a lot of people who have issues viewing love because, you know, broken relationships in the home with dad. So dads are such a, moms are obviously incredible and they're the heart of the home, but dads are

39:25Olivia Mock:like, you know, I think having both parents, you know, there's a lot of narrative. I did a show with Steve Gruber and he said that, you know, we need more dads out there. You know, we need more dads and people will come at me like, well, you know, half of dads abuse their children. I'm like, half of them, like that's the actual percentage. I don't know. I'm asking, like, is it really? But there's also moms out there that abuse children. And I think what's important for everybody to understand is having a mom and a dad, you know, in a household working together, pouring into their children. That's not to say single moms and single dads can't win.

39:59Olivia Mock:I don't believe in that. You know, when someone says, Oh, I hate to see someone come from a broken home. There's only one parent. Like that might be a ton better than having a broken home.

40:08Shawn French:Our home is broken, but it's, it's functional. But I, to your point, I feel the same exact way. Like I know it's whole, so many strong single moms out there and single dads who crush it.

40:20Olivia Mock:Yeah.

40:21Shawn French:But the love that they, they show also is so detrimental to, you know, how somebody views themselves. So just parenting in general is the whole point.

40:30Olivia Mock:So freaking parents

40:31Shawn French:are like the good, the bad, it like, it shapes you so, so much. And when you, you know, you start to develop in the whole frontal lobe, whatever, like I see things from a different perspective. And I'm like, as much as you want to be like, Oh, my parents don't affect me. Like, of course they do the good, the bad, all of it.

40:46Olivia Mock:So I think the big thing is, is when you grow is, is that when you pour into yourself by doing the hard things, you start to see certain things that you are holding against your mom or your dad a little bit differently. I'm like, they're just trying to help me. Right. Yeah. But the big thing is what, what also, and I alluded to this and I really want to go back to it, but I want the, I want to say it against the audience takes it in and I'm not challenging or questioning their aptitude, but I talk fast sometimes and I move on quickly. Then I come back is, uh, you know, when you, when you go to the gym and check in, right.

41:24Olivia Mock:And you do all those things, you become a better everything. You know, there's, there's not one time this last, this past week I've been sick and I'm trying to battle through stuff, but I've been staying consistent in every workout, every meal. So I know that no matter what, I'm going to feel like shit when I go home from here, but we're going to eat and then I'm going to make dinner later. I'm going to do all these things. But that pours into the cup that says, no matter what's going on in your life, you're going to take care of what's important. And that's, that spills over into my parenting style.

41:58Olivia Mock:Like this is a hard moment with my daughters. Daughters are hard. God bless you, sir. They're hard, right? They're hard. I have two, they're like two and a half years apart and they're besties and they are like worst enemies at times. And so those moments, if I'm not taking care of myself and doing the things that I need to do, I'll, I'll snap.

42:17Shawn French:Yeah.

42:18Olivia Mock:Right. So as we're talking about parenting, right, we've talked about moms in motion and, you know, postpartum, you know, different types of communities. What other communities are in the check-in app, check-in club?

42:28Shawn French:We have a ton. So we started the app with seven core communities and they kind of touched on a few things that would give people the guidelines of like to what this is, but you can also create communities. So like we have pickleball people, we have Pilates powerhouses, we have iron tribe, we have average Joes, which is just like not so hardcore, like kind of gives people a place to show up. It's like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not bench pressing 200 pounds, but I'm still, you know, getting a good dumbbell workout in and different things like that. Um, we've had a great group of women start something called End Zone Miles.

43:01Shawn French:And this is football coaches' wives who are doing like walking competitions. A huge part of Checking Club that a lot of people may not know about is within the communities, you can create announcements. So say you have, you know, Naples Run Club, the administrator of that community could post, hey, we're meeting up at Vanderbilt Beach this weekend. Comment below if you'll be there like to run with us. So there's different ways to engage in the communities. And, you know, as I mentioned, you can create your own. So.

43:28Olivia Mock:So that's kind of one of the things I was playing around with earlier today is that I can create my own determined society community. How would one promote that? Like, you know, would you, how, how would you draw people in?

43:43Shawn French:So we have pretty much everything within the app that is postable is shareable. So when you go in the app and you do the create community feature and you create the Determined Society community, which you could label it. You know, anybody who listens to the podcast is dedicated to bettering themselves, whatever, give a little description so people know what it is. And then you could share that community to Facebook, to Instagram. And from there, people can click on your link. If they don't already have the app, it'll direct them to the app store to download. And then it's a really quick and easy signup process.

44:13Shawn French:And you'll just join that community.

44:16Olivia Mock:So I could actually, when I create whatever I want to call the community, right? Termine society, the termination blueprint. I can share that link to Facebook or a link on a story and they'll click on it. And if they don't have the app, it'll take them to their appropriate app store, whether it's, you know, Droid or Apple, they can download the app. So there's a way that I can actually help you and people can help you grow users within your, within your app.

44:46Shawn French:Yeah. You know, with anything these days, like social media is a really good, you know, pillar to growth in any capacity. So we found so many people on social media. And one of the coolest parts of starting the app was when I, like I mentioned earlier, when I'm starting to scroll and it's like, okay, I don't know this person, which is really cool, which means it's reaching different groups. And, you know, I credit that to Instagram and TikTok and the power of social media, but a hundred percent shareable.

45:14Olivia Mock:I had a really good idea. You know, obviously, you know, fitness coaches. Yeah. Right. I have one that is really good. He's one of my best friends.

45:23Shawn French:Okay.

45:24Olivia Mock:And he works with, you know, moms, like, or he works with women 40 and over.

45:29Shawn French:Yeah.

45:29Olivia Mock:It'd be really good to introduce him to this app. Right. So he could, you know, coaches, coaches, he could create a community within the app and have accountability. Yeah. And then all these women can have, you know, community with other women that are going through the same thing as them. It's a really low friction. That's amazing to me to say. I didn't realize that.

45:51Shawn French:Yeah. There are a lot of features with like, even on the homepage, there's a tab that I love. And I feel like you're kind of the same way. Like I love a good motivational quote, a good one-liner. So there's a feature in there called Get Motivated.

46:03Olivia Mock:There's songs too.

46:04Shawn French:Yeah. They put a song with the quotes. And by they, I mean me. they but yeah that's a cool feature I love a good one-liner you can get motivated in there and then I do want to mention because you know some people are on this journey and they might not feel comfortable just being looked at by any you know average person you can make private communities and then whoever creates that community will be the admin to approve and reject so as a nod to my original check-in club members we started on a group me um there was like 200 people within the span of like two months, which was amazing. And I started by separating men and women just for comfortability purposes.

46:43Shawn French:Like I said, a lot of those moms, I wanted to create a comfortable environment. And so my original check-in club members, we have a private group called the OGs. And so I kind of create that space for them to, you know, show up in the way they were able to at first. So that's a way that we use a private community or if it's an all women's run club or something.

47:04Olivia Mock:Is there a way to promote different communities within, is there a list of them?

47:10Shawn French:So you can view every community that exists. There are some, you know, that I don't even have access to because they've been made private. Like there's a walking accountability group and different things that are more specific to the communities created. But when you go in the app, you can view all communities A to Z. And so if it's public, you can share that to anybody. So any, any community you can share the link, except if it's private, if you're not a part of that group, you wouldn't be able to share it. But if you're going through and you're like, like, I'm a part of a ton of them because I do different forms of movement.

47:42Shawn French:Like we have Denver rock climbing, like different things like that, which I'm not a rock climber, but I think it's cool that people find these unique ways to, you know, move their body and then create a community out of it.

47:54Olivia Mock:Pretty cool. You got my, you got my mind working because, you know, I think there's a way to drive people within the community is just to do more, right? To, to continue to show up for themselves and it be like, like I said earlier, low friction, right? Because what I'm thinking is when, when people are checking in, they're doing a story and, you know, community or, or whatever, you know, check this out, then it's just a nice way to include people and, and for more interaction, right? It doesn't in a world, here's what I'm getting at. We live in a world where everybody wants something from somebody.

48:33Olivia Mock:You're going to join my community. It's$97 a month, or you got to pay not, you know, a thousand dollars upfront and you get a 50, you know, a 15 cent discount for the year. I like this because you're really driving connection.

48:46Shawn French:Yeah.

48:47Olivia Mock:And, and a lot of times in this, in this journey of health and wellness, like you need community. You need it badly.

48:52Shawn French:So yeah, there's so many days where I get a notification and there's notification panel. So if you're not somebody who wants to get blown up all day, totally get that. I, as the owner, I'm very passionate about the people that show up at day in and day out. And so there'll be times where I'm not feeling it. And I see Danny S posted in Pilates powerhouses and I'm like, I better get going. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah.

49:17Olivia Mock:It's

49:17Shawn French:that.

49:17Olivia Mock:As we start to close out and, uh, is there anything, are you thinking about any new widgets coming? Like some, some additional features, new features.

49:27Shawn French:I'm always, you know, my, my gears are always, you know, going and oftentimes on social media, I'll do like, does anybody have any feedback or things that they'd like to see change or different things like that? So I'm always thinking we've had some people say like, can you collab with a friend? Like if you and I go and do a workout. Could it say like Olivia M and Sean F checked in together? Um, so I've thought about that or the ability to post multiple photos. If I did a lift and then I went for a walk or, you know, different things like that. That's pretty cool.

49:58Olivia Mock:So that's pretty cool. Yeah. I like that. Well, good stuff. Well, thank you for coming on and sharing the origin story and everything that you got going on with the check-in club.

50:06Shawn French:Don't forget you, you committed to start checking in.

50:08Olivia Mock:And I will, I will, I promise.

50:10Shawn French:I'm going to text you.

50:11Olivia Mock:I know, I know you will. Well, you, you can, you can, um, everybody watching and listening, you know, go check it out. Check in club in the app store, download it, right. Just download it. It's, it's literally free. Like there's no, you know, a lot of times they say free apps and then like, it's free for seven days, guys. It's, it's, it's freaking free. Join the community and, and just show up for yourselves. And until next time, guys, stay determined.