In short
Sue Bell Robbins’ recovery journey from alcoholism (“rock bottom”) to sobriety, then her rise as an Instagram personality in Palm Beach; she also discusses identity change, confidence, handling criticism, gratitude, and daily kindness as “determination” and “discipline.”
Guest background
Sue Bell Robbins, age 70, known as the “Instagram queen of Palm Beach.” She previously struggled with drinking and depression, had a “dry drunk,” and describes a DUI as part of her turning point. She credits friends, therapy, and a new mindset for rebuilding her life; she later divorced, moved back to Boston, and built a team (manager/editor/assistant) to run her content.
Key claims
Lasting change requires changing the person “to the core,” not just stopping a habit; confidence grows when you focus on supportive community and ignore rare snarky comments; gratitude and small acts (eye contact, smiling, compliments) create peace.
Notable examples
She stopped drinking after being told by a psychiatrist she was an alcoholic; she relapsed quickly when she returned to wine/scotch; she got started on Instagram after a street encounter led to overnight engagement (16,000 comments) and later built “fans” (725 followers). She shares examples of snark (“undertaker” joke) and her late husband’s humor/gratitude (e.g., answering “Jimmy Carter” to a quiz).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOConfronting Alcoholism
0:15 to 1:05
Suebelle shares her struggle with alcoholism and the impact on her life.
“Everything that's going on right now with you, all the great things, how you're inspiring people would not have been possible if you were still hitting that bottle.”
Finding Self-Worth
1:05 to 2:20
Discussion about imposter syndrome and the journey to self-acceptance.
“You're doing some amazing things at the young age of 70.”
Fear of Judgment
2:20 to 4:10
Exploration of the fear of public speaking and judgment from others.
“The first, gosh, I would say first three and a half years, I struggled with that.”
Journey to Instagram Fame
4:10 to 6:12
Suebelle recounts how she started her Instagram journey and gained followers.
“Well, there's a girl who sort of pops up on the street and will ask what you're wearing and what your favorite fragrance is.”
The Role of Trust and Teamwork
6:12 to 7:53
Discussion on the importance of trust and teamwork in Suebelle's journey.
“But she edits everything and will come up with a subject or if we're going to an event.”
The Role of Trust and Teamwork
7:55 to 8:31
Discussion on the importance of trust and teamwork in Suebelle's journey.
“We're proud to announce a partnership between White Sands Treatment Centers and the Determined Society.”
Building Confidence Through Success
8:31 to 10:55
Suebelle discusses how success and community support boost confidence.
“I don't know if they have that capability yet.”
The Importance of Authenticity
10:55 to 11:49
Suebelle emphasizes the value of authenticity in her life and career.
“And to me, those are, that's the community.”
Salesmanship and Taste
11:49 to 14:00
Suebelle reflects on her past sales experiences and personal taste.
“I just, I just don't like that connotation.”
Authenticity and Overcoming Challenges
14:00 to 18:20
Explore the importance of authenticity and personal growth in facing life's challenges.
“But, you know, that's what people are attracted to is your authenticity.”
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The Journey of Recovery
18:20 to 21:10
Suebelle shares her journey of dealing with alcoholism and finding support.
“and uh it's the best thing that ever happened to me but i didn't want to hear it initially no absolutely not none of us want to hear right what our biggest problem is because that is our own personal hell.”
Transforming Identity
21:10 to 24:10
Discussing the shift from identifying as a drinker to embracing sobriety and its impact.
“I didn't really have any, I didn't have a lot of support.”
Letting Go of Ego
24:10 to 27:20
Suebelle reflects on the role of ego and self-esteem in her journey to personal peace.
“And could you imagine everything that's going on right now with you?”
Honoring a Loved One
27:20 to 28:00
A discussion on how Suebelle honors her late husband's memory and the lessons learned.
“And you've got to let go of that perfection ideology.”
Lessons from a Loved One
28:00 to 29:26
Explore the valuable life lessons learned from a loved one's experiences and humor.
“wisdom his type of sense of humor i love the fact how you honor him and you bring them bring him into your life in the physical form now, what certain things did you take from him in this journey?”
Practicing Gratitude Daily
29:46 to 33:12
Learn how to incorporate gratitude into your daily life for increased happiness.
“He didn't have any ego or giving him a compliment.”
The Impact of Kindness
33:15 to 35:27
Understand how small acts of kindness can create a ripple effect in society.
“good self-esteem, you know, you're enough.”
Teaching Empathy to Children
35:30 to 42:00
Explore ways to teach children empathy and understanding towards others.
“You know, my two things I've learned from my sister that, you know, somebody might really be grouchy and giving you a hard time.”
Navigating Life During COVID-19
42:00 to 47:38
Learn about personal challenges and reflections faced during the pandemic.
“And that's why if you're not a cook or something, COVID was really very stressful.”
The Essence of Determination
47:38 to 50:26
Explore the definitions of determination and personal growth from the guest.
“There's one more question that I have for you before we, we, which has been just amazing by the way.”
Final Thoughts and Audience Connection
50:26 to 51:38
Hear the guest's parting thoughts on inspiring others and connecting with the audience.
“Well, you're doing a damn good job of it.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00You're about to make a trade. Which you do you listen to? Is it get optioning those options? Or let's do a little research. Learn more at FINRA.org slash trade smart. Everything that's going on right now with you, all the great things, how you're inspiring people would not have been possible if you were still hitting that bottle. I went to a psychiatrist and he said, well, you're an alcoholic. You have to stop drinking. I got so fed up with it. I said, oh, who cares? I went back to drinking and decided that I was always going to drink. I thought it helped me cope, but what it did was it brought me more depression.
0:41It's just a spiral and you get so down, it's almost impossible to feel good about yourself again until I found some like-minded people that would say, I love you and I want you to take care of yourself.
1:02So Sue Bell Robbins, we're here with you, the Instagram queen of Palm Beach. You're doing some amazing things at the young age of 70. Walk us through what's going on with you. Oh, again, beyond my wildest dreams, I have some great endorsements. I have like 725, I call them fans, but followers. I mean, it's amazing. And it'll be two years. It is two years in August that this all happened. And I still can't believe it. My manager, Ali, says I have imposter syndrome. because it's like, God, how did this happen? Yeah. You know, it's funny because I think we all go through those moments of imposter syndrome, especially when we create something.
2:04We're like, wait a second, you know, who am I to do all this stuff, right? Who's going to listen to me and how am I going to really inspire? Because to your point, I mean, you really look at yourself just as Sue Bell Robbins. You're just another person trying to give back to the world. So I can really relate to that. The first, gosh, I would say first three and a half years, I struggled with that. And really what I did was I had to change myself to the core to just understand that, hey, you've got something to give and you're sending out a good message and people are going to gravitate to it. So I can really relate to that.
2:39And I think a lot of people don't admit that part of what they're going through. I really wish I had more of a filter because I tend to just say what comes to my mind and my ex-husband used to call it knee-jerk reaction. So I wish I could be a little more thoughtful. I've been working on it. It's funny. You know, the insecurity issue, like, you know, I don't know if I deserve this. When I was in high school or college, mostly high school, my mother used to say, what do you care what those people think about you? But we do care. You know, we want to be thought well of and popular. And again, it comes with age and wisdom that you're more sure of yourself and less insecure.
3:52You know, it brings up a good point. I did a show yesterday and we were talking about fear, right? And a lot of times people say, I have this tremendous fear of public speaking. No one really has a fear of speaking in public. They have a fear of how people are going to judge them. absolutely that's true yeah and once we get through that cast because i thought oh but now uh now i'm comfortable you know there haven't been any negative uh repercussions it's been all positive and i like talking to you sean well thank you i like talking to you too and what could be negatively said about you i mean really come on like you know i i think that you know if Anybody that has a right mind really respects what you're doing and it inspires them.
4:42So with that, how did you get started?
4:49Well, there's a girl who sort of pops up on the street and will ask what you're wearing and what your favorite fragrance is. and she popped up when I was walking with my friend and we told her and I guess we got like overnight 16 ,000 comments and they were all positive and from there she asked me to do one of me alone and that went well and I met this girl who'd done a lot of Instagram and she said, her friend, we want to make you a star. And I said, oh, because I'm always concerned about money. And I said, okay, well, like how much are you going to charge or what's this going to entail? and they said, oh no, we just want to hang out with you.
5:59So that sort of got me started and the more I did it or the more videos we did, the more fans I got. Forgive me for calling them fans but I will be at a restaurant and I get not mom, but quite a few people want to say hello and they're so sweet so kind uh oh the best the one i love the most is uh oh you're much better looking in person than on the camera i think it's just the opposite but uh oh yeah that's how it started worst critic yeah i just went on and on and even today uh And I'll get another thousand followers, you know, if we post. I have a fabulous assistant manager. She bosses me around a little bit.
7:01But she edits everything and will come up with a subject or if we're going to an event. And she does all the filming and then edits and posts it. And all I do is talk, you know. Me too. You got the same thing. So you're as grateful as I am. So grateful. Yeah. I mean, without my team, I'm pretty much nothing. And I think it takes a very humble person to admit that, right? And back in the day, I was the one creating all my stuff. I was the one posting it. Now I have a team that does it. They do a damn good job. So I'm very grateful that I get to just have great conversations with people like you.
7:47and then other people do the things that I don't know how to do. And we're gonna take a quick break to hear from our Powered By sponsor. We're proud to announce a partnership between White Sands Treatment Centers and the Determined Society. With multiple locations across Florida, White Sands provides luxury, top-rated addiction treatment from medical detox and inpatient care to outpatient support and long-term aftercare. Their resort-style campuses, expert clinicians, and holistic programs create real, lasting recovery. Together, we're committed to bringing hope, resources, and healing to those who need it most.
8:29White Sands Treatment Centers. Make you look good. I don't know if they have that capability yet. We're still working on that one. We're still working on that one, Sue Bell. They got to do something else with this old man. But you mentioned something that I really wanted to touch on because you said you're always worried about money. And I think when we all get started in this space, we're so worried about what people want from us. And there's not enough people that want something for us, right? And it's always a, what's it going to cost me? And there's some people that would say, oh, it's only going to cost you$18 ,000 for two, three months.
9:10And you're like, wait a second. that where's the ROI on that, right? But you had somebody that believed in you and you had somebody that just wanted to be a part of your life because they respected you and they loved who you were as a human being. How has that played a factor in your growth? Because I would assume that trust is a massive factor, right? And so you trust these people. How did that work out for you? Because I'm really interested in that. I just became more confident. The more success, which I'm saying fans and success to me are sort of the same thing because it's people that are listening and enjoying what I have to say.
9:59The confidence really starts to flow and I'm not so concerned about anything really. I mean, I must say I do 100, I get 100 comments. Two of them will be a little snarky. One guy said, does your undertaker know you're walking around and I don't drink? And they've said, did you already have your martini? You know, stupid like that. That's two people out of a hundred. So to be so sensitive that that would ruin your day is just not happening anymore because I have the confidence and the love from the other 98. that's an important uh that's an important topic because a lot of times people can tend to focus on that negative aspect or the people that don't like them or have something snarky to say um in your words and what i found in my journey is to really focus on what i'm creating and how it's helping people and focusing on them and i love the fact that you call them fans by the way i have to say that because you said it a couple times and at one point you apologize for it to me I think calling them followers is, would be the apology because people are coming to our pages to ride along with us because we speak to them, you know, speak to their lives and the things that they're going through in a certain way.
11:38And to me, those are, that's the community. That's the fans. That's, you know, that's important. Followers is so kind of, you know, look at me, right? Look at me followers. I just, I just don't like that connotation. Yeah. So I got to ask you, what are you wearing today? You got a beautiful little, uh, pink outfit on and yes, it's, uh, I can't stand up. It's, um, one of the incredible things that's happened is I'm gifted with clothes. And this was a gift from a beautiful shop in Palm Beach. And I have it in pink and white. And when I post wearing it, they love it. No, that's great. It's called, yeah, this one is called La Vie, which means the life, Style House.
12:46And they're pretty much one of a kind. It's fabrics that were discontinued or something in this smart company. Put them together. And they're really, you can be fat and look fine in this because it's like a big thing. Like the sleeves. It's flowy. Oh, look at that. That's nice. I have this size arm, but they're wonderful. And they're all applique with flowers. It's sort of a happy look. I tend to be a little, I call it town and country with a couple buttons undone. You know, a little edgy. A little edgy. I mean, I'm edgy too. I like edge, right? And I think it takes an edgy person to do what you're doing.
13:33I mean, you started what? Did you start when you were 68 or 70?
13:4070. It's interesting to me because I look at your socials and I see the engagement and I see the love for what you're doing. And you had mentioned earlier that you wish you would have more of a filter, but I think you having the lack of the filter in so many words, because I don't think anything you say is bad. But, you know, that's what people are attracted to is your authenticity. Have you always held authenticity and genuineness at the forefront of everything that you do on a daily basis? Absolutely. And it's gotten me in trouble before. But when I did sales, I'm just a fabulous salesperson.
14:26I worked in a men's store and had a small line of villager clothes. It was very traditional. but I, the guys would buy the suits and I would do the shirt and ties. And I think I had good taste, but I also would be insisting that this was the one they should buy because it was the most attractive. And, and that was a great feeling. And it's sort of what I do now is like, if I really like something, I want to share it or, you know, talk about it. You know, I had an issue with drinking in my 30s, late 20s, 30s, 40s, and my life was becoming unmanageable. I had everything anybody could want as a corporate wife, sort of the boss's wife.
15:34I got away with a lot, but I wasn't bad, but I was just sloppy. And it was suggested that I look at that and do something about it, which I did. And I think that has given me, as I said, a life beyond my wildest dreams. I'm able to do a lot. And whenever I post about something like that, it's unbelievable how many people thank me and give positive comments. Or when I'm out, somebody will whisper in my ear, you know, you really helped me. And because it's a given that for every alcoholic, 12 people are directly affected. You know, your parents, your husband, your kids, a job, and there are many losses.
16:37So I, not to preach, but I just tell what's happened to me, my experience. I like that. And it begs the question of, you know, we don't always, or the statement, we don't always, how does it go? So, you know, the people that are going to tell us the things that we don't want to hear are the people that we need to keep the closest to us, right? Because they want us to be better. They want us to show up more polished and give something to world. Who was the person that, you know, inspired you or gave you that challenge to kind of look at that aspect? About 15 of my friends. A whole slew of them.
17:22They're like, Sue Bell, clean up your shit. We got to figure this thing out here. That's good. Those are real friends. I went to a psychiatrist and he said, well, you're an alcoholic. You have to stop drinking. So for a year, I drank apple juice, but nothing seemed to get any better. And then I got so fed up with it. I said, oh, who cares? I'm just going to go back and have a glass of wine. But within three days, I was back to having a scotch after the guiding light at four o 'clock. I mean, your life becomes very small. and now my life is incredibly large and filled with wonderful uh wonderful people and experiences and uh it's the best thing that ever happened to me but i didn't want to hear it initially no absolutely not none of us want to hear right what our biggest problem is because that is our own personal hell.
18:34And it reminds us that we feel we're failing in life. For me, and I talk about it very often, for me, it was binge eating. It was finding comfort in food and abusing food. And I was a food addict. I'm sorry, just the way it is. And I think I got to a point just in this past December, it's like, hey man, this is the one thing holding you back. How could you have a show called The Determined Society when you're not showing any discipline in your physical form. And for me, you know, yeah, it's about, you know, looking good and not having to worry about, I can't wear that shirt because it shows this, right?
19:13Those are all amazing things that transpire once you lose a ton of weight, but really it's about health, right? And we want to be able to live a long time be there for our people and and truly maximize how long we're on this earth because we don't know when that day is actually going to come yeah it's it's when you feel that your life's unmanageable you know i can't wear that shirt i look so fat in this and um and I got a DUI and I, and, or I've gained 17 pounds in the past two months. You got to look at it. And until you're, you're willing to look at it, you really can, as I said, 15 people told me, you know, that I should cool it, but it's really until I decided enough, you know with the help of god i'm a big believer that i didn't do it on my own i i i had help i love that and i subscribe to that right i mean you can do what you what you can but you know you pray and you and you look for strength and and you know discernment and and wisdom as well right because to know god is to is to is to find wisdom now when you said it was was the turning point Because I know you said like you had 15 friends that came up to you, psychologists or a psychiatrist said you're an alcoholic.
20:49You drank apple juice for about a month. You're like, I'm done with this crap. I'm having the wine. What was the DUI, the turning point for you to be like, OK, now I have to make a move? Well, I think I was what they call a dry drunk. You know, I wasn't drinking, but yet I wasn't happy. I didn't really have any, I didn't have a lot of support. And until I found some like-minded people that would say, you know, you're doing well. You know, I love you and I want you to be happy and take care of yourself. because it's not just one thing. You have to change everything about the way you look at things,
21:48stay away from depression, which is a big, big thing. I mean, it's just a spiral, and you get so down, it's almost impossible to feel good about yourself again. so that's what happened and then I went back to drinking and as I said within a few days I was right back where I had started and I decided that I was always going to drink you know that's the one thing that makes me survive you know all the
22:34like I had a not a happy marriage, you know, and and it, it, it, I thought it helped me cope, but what it did was it brought me more depression. And until I, you know, changed the way I thought and by actions, not much was going well and i did end up having a very civilized um divorce and i i moved back to boston where i had lived before and uh i just sort of started over uh you know like turn the tv off and then i turned it back on that's all thank you for that um you know So I want the listeners to really key in on this because, you know, there's a lot of people trying to go through changes in their life, right?
23:32And they think that just changing a habit is going to change everything. You have to become a different person to the core, right? It's about standards, right? It's about like changing the thing from I need to stop drinking to I do not drink. And then you start forming that connectivity with that actual identity. and it's almost subconscious how we do it. But I mean, that's exactly what happened with you, right? You change your identity. You're no longer the person that I'm just going to drink. I'm always going to drink as a part of who I am to I don't drink. And could you imagine everything that's going on right now with you?
24:18All the great things, how you're inspiring people would not have been possible if you were still hitting that bottle. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, the boss's wife, the ego that comes with that, that, you know, you're unstoppable. You know, you don't have to answer to anybody.
24:44And there are no rules for you. They're for other people. losing that ego that I've heard it called easing God out that you become the star that's where it's got to start somebody said you've got to change and I said well I'm not drinking and he said no no you've got to change everything let go of the ego You know, I think that's where the problems begin. I had a friend that called it believing your own press. Wow, that's good. Yeah. That's really good. And it's true. Yeah. How did you have that? I shouldn't preach or anything. No, no, no. You're speaking on your own experience and my listeners understand that.
25:41They get it. What was it for you, right? Because we talked about easing out God and forgetting about you. I think everybody has a little bit of ego to a degree, right? I think some of it is healthy. It's not all bad. But how did you come out of that specific aspect of the ego and get to where you're at now?
26:10My self-esteem. Really kicked in, knowing that I was enough. I didn't have to compare myself with anybody else. I was grateful. Stopped taking things for granted. I used to say to my husband, hand me that. And he'd say, please is a very nice word. And I was going to say thank you, but just being mindful of other people, you know, and I was always rushing, you know, like the tortoise and the hare. You know, it's like everything doesn't have to be done right now. And again, I'm newly widowed, but I had a darling husband. And he used to tell me that I was a perfectionist in an imperfect world. And you've got to let go of that perfection ideology.
27:32It's going to bite you in the ass. It really will. Because nothing is ever going to be perfect. but to me the whole gig the whole reason for for life is finding peace and holding on to it i i read something somewhere that your late husband inspires you still to this day with his wisdom his type of sense of humor i love the fact how you honor him and you bring them bring him into your life in the physical form now, what certain things did you take from him in this journey?
28:17His humor, he was in a wheelchair for four years, his acceptance, his not ever complaining, his kindness but the humor was the best thing he was always when I was going to put him in this rehab because I thought he needed more stimulation and some of these rehabs are really a joke and this one was a huge joke but they made it sound like you had to apply and you might not get into the rehab, which is just bullshit. And they gave him a little quiz and they asked him who the president was. He said, Jimmy Carter. He was just great. Rinse takes your laundry and hand delivers it to your door, expertly cleaned and folded.
29:19So you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a whole new version of you. Like tea time you. Mmm. Or this tea time you. Or even this tea time you. So did you hear about Dave? Or even tea time, tea time, tea time you. Mmm. So update on Dave. It's up to you. We'll take the laundry. Rinse. It's time to be great. And he taught me a lot. I wanted to be like him. He didn't have any ego or giving him a compliment. He'd say, oh, that's not important. And you should never spend more than you make. I didn't love that too much. Who does? I don't like that one either.
30:13I mean, it was 38 years and 34 were just fabulous. He was really fun and he had funny names for people that weren't. That's awesome. You know. Yeah. If he'd see somebody really fat, he'd say, groceries. Oh, my God.
30:39It's funny. Hey, it's funny because real quick though, because the Jimmy Carter thing cracks me up. Yeah. Right. He knew who the president was, but he was messing with those people. You know, it's like Jimmy Carter. I think I was born when Jimmy Carter was the president. That's what makes it so funny. It was in the late seventies, right? I was born in 78. I just, you know, I just love that about him. And I love that you remember that about him. But most of what I'm hearing is I've never met that man, right? But what I admire about him is his sense of gratitude. No matter what he was going through, wheelchair bound for four years, he had true gratitude for the world and where he was at.
31:26And I think that gratitude is a practice that people throw around a lot. you know oh write three things you're grateful grateful for down but they don't go any further than that they don't really dissect it they don't take it on with him for the rest of the day throw that on your back like in a backpack and go through your day with those things that you're grateful for and more great things will come to you absolutely absolutely supposed to the ideal And it's hard because we're human beings, but to take this day and make it like the last day of your life, how you're going to treat people, how you're going to feel without regrets.
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33:12Visit GoodToKnowFacts.org. good self-esteem, you know, you're enough. You're giving back or you're thinking about, this guy said, I know I'm not much, but it's all I can think about. Lose that and think about other people because then you don't dwell on the sad things that are going on in your life or, you know, your foot hurts, you know, those kinds of thing. It's all little, little tricks. It's the same person, but you're just approaching it in a loving manner. I love that. I love what you just said, because a lot of times we'll let little ailments like, Oh, my leg hurts or I'm super tired. So I'm not going to go to the gym.
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34:09I'm going to abandon my standard today. But then there's somebody out there that lost the ability to walk that would literally give their other leg just, and that's kind of doesn't make sense, but they would give so much to be able to go for that walk, to move their body. Right. And I think it's important for us to understand that daily, right? Like, Hey, my life may not be perfect right now. There may be things that I'm struggling with, whether it's my emotional regulation, I maybe lose my patience with my kids at times or whatever that is, but there's always somebody out there that's struggling more than you.
34:46And if you can just go out there for one day, one interaction at a time, hold the door open for somebody, treat them like a person instead of an object, that creates a ripple effect of kindness. And that's what you, my friend, are.
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35:51Well, they might have found out that their brother just got diagnosed with stage four cancer. You know, give them a break. And the other thing, I guess I got from my sister, but I taught first grade at one point. And find something to compliment somebody. You know, that's a great shirt. Your eyes are beautiful. Oh, I love what you just said. It's amazing. And when you're taking the emphasis off yourself and you're making somebody, you're giving something.
36:42So that's so needed. You know, that person might have needed a compliment that day. They might have just gotten a speeding ticket. That hasn't happened to me, but I'm not a great driver.
37:00Yeah. Stop thinking about yourself. It's so interesting because I had a conversation, my wife and I did, with our youngest daughter. She's six. She started first grade today. I know, right? We have a middle school. We have a son that's in sixth grade now. a daughter that's in fourth grade, and then our first grader. And she came home yesterday because they had teacher work day. So she had to do the aftercare thing because I was recording. And one of the things she said is like, this person was very unkind to me today. And she's always so nice to me. I said I didn't like my snacks. And she just said, eat it.
37:42And I go, and I'm like listening to all this. And sometimes I come up with some pretty good things to say. And I said, well, hey, you know, you don't know what she's going through. Maybe she got in trouble at school, right? Because like I have to break it down to kids terms, right? You know, she's in first grade. I go, maybe her boss got mad at her. Maybe she has to do something that she's not comfortable with and she's having a bad day. Maybe give her some grace, you know, go give her a hug tomorrow when you see her. and and that type of understanding to where if someone comes off like the rude or mean to you it's not about you it's about what they are potentially going through and cycling through in their life but to meet them back with kindness like hey are you okay you know i i i i feel like i mean that that how you said that hurt my feelings but are you okay you know and i think if we show people more kindness instead of reacting right and and blowing back yeah don't don't give it back to them receive it and then act out of kindness because that to me is more of a um response right there's too many reactions in this world especially on social media right um you could go and react to those mean comments but you wouldn't feel good afterwards yeah exactly yeah you might pack a little nicer snack though tomorrow oh listen listen here okay i i mean it's so funny because that child complains about everything that i pack it doesn't matter and you know so today you know like my wife and i we we chatted last night about hey maybe we switch it up find some healthier snacks this and that well she really likes hummus and baby carrots so i went and got those i'm like well what else does she like she goes you know sean they gave her tuna today and she really liked it i go oh are you serious i don't like that and she goes well you may not but she does so today okay so today i gave her some baby carrots a mandarin some tuna and some crackers so her snack later she's super excited to eat it but i swear to you subal if that thing comes back uneaten i'm gonna be pissed okay because i'm like you know i'm like yeah hey listen here lady i'm like shawnee homemaker this morning rushing back from the gym cooking breakfast getting her little snack ready you better eat it sister you better eat it and tomorrow will be hummus and carrots so we'll switch it up a little bit you know absolutely yes yes no i i receive it and it's so funny because a lot of times i would get so upset like when my wife told me yesterday that she just didn't like her snack she wouldn't eat i'm like you know what i i don't know what to do like no matter what i make it doesn't matter i can put filet mignon on her on her plate and she wants to douse it in ketchup I'm like, what the hell is going on?
40:51But, you know, I was taking it personally because I do, you know, in our household, we don't have gender roles. We don't like we have an open landscape or sometimes I'll help out with the laundry, but I will cook 99.9 % of the meals. And so I was acting out of a sense of pride, you know, choosing to be offended. She's just telling me what she likes and doesn't like how that's none of my business. I need to meet her where she's at. Well, so I did. I'm in awe that you do the cooking because that's really one of my terrible flaws. I cooked one night and I said to Richard, this isn't very good, is it?
41:40He said, no. What was the meal? What did you cook? Do you remember? I would screw everything up. I think I overcooked maybe chicken. Oh, no, I undercooked. Rare chicken is not good. Oh, damn. That's not good. He would say, oh, this bread is really good. He would try to make it positive. And that's why if you're not a cook or something, COVID was really very stressful. And, you know, I regret because I really was very bitchy. You know, I was going to have a knee replacement because he played a lot of tennis. And in December and November is when he fell. So we all know in a moment life can change, you know, on a dime.
42:42Your world can come to an end. And so he was in a rehab like, you know, six months into the COVID thing. And I was crying and I called him and I said, oh, I'm so sorry. I was such a bitch and I yelled all the time and it was terrible. And he said, no, you were only a kitchen bitch. A kitchen bitch. I shared this with my neighbor and she calls, she said, well, if you're KV1, then I'm KV2. So that's, we call each other KV1 and 2. KV1 and 2. You know, the whole COVID thing is still so real to me, you know, how we got through it and the harm it did, especially to children. You know, that homeschooling can't be easy.
43:47To hell with the children. You know what it did to them? I mean, the parents, like, I mean, I had a kindergarten doing distance learning and all the while trying to run a career because I was in corporate America. at that time. I see, I didn't leave corporate America until 2024. So I was trying to navigate my career while having a household full of my two daughters doing frozen karaoke, my son looking at a computer screen, my wife phone calls, me trying to learn something new. I'm like, oh my God. And it's so funny because we spent most of the time up in our loft. So we have a two-story home and upstairs.
44:25The main reason why we bought that house is for two reasons. One, the downstairs was so open. And then there was this loft where my wife and I envisioned having our football room because I am so blessed. My wife loves college and NFL football. I won the lottery there. We were going to have this amazing loft area with arcade games, a retro refrigerator, and a big TV so we could gather on the weekends and watch football. And It turned into a freaking playroom and we were constantly up there. And so now to this day, we're 2025, we're knocking on the door of 2026, right? And I'm like downstairs by myself and they're upstairs.
45:08Like if I'm cooking or something like, well, someone come down because I do not want to walk upstairs until it is time to go to bed. I still have an aversion to my loft. I don't like being up there. It's like PTSD at its finest, my friend. Exactly. I'll never get over it. Never get over it. Never. At one point I'm like, can we please sell this house and move somewhere different? Because I just got, I have too many bad memories in this loft. And then it's so funny. I'll be sitting there and the TV will be on, you know, when the kids aren't there. Cause during the week we don't turn on screen time for them.
45:43And all of a sudden pictures start flooding the screen. This montage of these pictures back in the day where I thought was such a terrible time. And the lesson here for the audience is when you look back at those times, you don't see them as bad. You look at your children when they were little and you're like, I would give anything to have those moments back and, and I guess operate differently or better in those times. And sometimes I sit there and look at the screen and I just, I tear, I cry. I'm like, how could I have let that time slip? How could I have let that time slip with my children and, and thought about all the things I'd rather be doing, like being out to work so I can provide for them.
46:25It was all good intentions. But I'll never get the opportunity again to be sitting there with my kids 24-7. So I guess it's all perspective. Well, it's the ability to remember and to think about the good things that happened during that. You know, pain can sometimes bring, well, whatever you're beating yourself up about, you're aware of it. It's not going to happen again. And mostly you got through it. And yeah, you got through it. And sounds like, even though it was a madhouse, sounds like you had a lot of grace. Yeah. Yeah, I did. I was blessed because I was able to do my job from home. Right.
47:19Um, you know, so there's a lot of great things. I mean, if you're the kitchen bitch, maybe I'm a loft bitch. LB1. There we go. There's no other loft bitch. Just me. Just me. I'm proprietary. I'm proprietary. So, so Sue Bell, thank you so much. There's one more question that I have for you before we, we, which has been just amazing by the way. I've really enjoyed getting to know you and, you know, learning more about you and just kind of what makes you tick. You're a sweet woman and I, and I value you truly. Thank you. So the last question, yes, ma 'am. The question is, this is the determined society, right?
48:01That's the show. And it's built on determination and discipline. So I would love to know what your definition of true determination is.
48:12Determination. I guess instead of determination, I would say goal. My goal is to, well, I love that I'm recognized and I'm appreciated and I have a strong sense of self in a good way. And I don't think I've ever felt this peace and this happiness that's come from the recognition of not superficial, even though I am a little funny sometimes. But it's that I've given it away to keep it. I've given my serenity and my happiness away. And you can give it away just by making eye contact and smiling at somebody. That is, somebody once said, if you smile, your brain thinks it's happy. So I try to smile a lot.
49:29And mostly I try to stand up straight, working on my posture. That's what I'm determined to do. But I just would like things to keep going the way they are because, you know, as I always say, my life is beyond my wildest dreams. And I was so insecure. I used to have a little book and somebody gave me a compliment. I would write it down. And then when I was feeling badly about myself, I'd take that book out and say, oh, the lady on the bus said you were pretty. You know, little superficial things because I didn't have that self-esteem that I have today. So my determination or my goal is to continue and to know that I'm enough and to spread my joy.
50:29Well, you're doing a damn good job of it. And as long as you keep showing up like yourself and being who you truly are, you'll continue to inspire millions and eventually billions of people. And just thank you so much for coming on. Oh, you're darling. Thank you. Oh, you're sweet. Those kids are lucky, I'll tell you. You sound like a fabulous dad. I try. I fall short a lot of times, right? But it's about the journey and those pain points bring growth, bring wisdom, and do bring peace when I can go back and say, hey, listen, daddy messed up. Yeah. Will you forgive me? And that's something that I always try to do.
51:08My wife does the same thing. I learned that from her. My wife has been a saint. She's truly pushed me to grow as a human being. Well, you're blessed. Yes, ma 'am. Well, thank you so much. And for the audience, please do me a favor, share this episode with someone you know, love and trust that would get something out of it. And the one thing that I have for you guys is show up every day and make somebody's day better. And until next time, stay determined.
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From the publisher
At 70 years old, SueBell Robbins has become nothing short of an Instagram sensation. Known as the "Instagram Queen of Palm Beach," she’s amassed a devoted following not through filters or gimmicks, but by living with unfiltered authenticity, humor, and wisdom.
In this candid conversation with Shawn French, SueBell opens up about the unlikely start of her social media journey, overcoming addiction, finding peace after hardship, and embracing life with gratitude and grace. From “imposter syndrome” to the power of sobriety, SueBell shares the lessons that have made her life “beyond her wildest dreams.”
This episode covers:
-How SueBell became a viral influencer at age 70
-Battling alcoholism and the life-changing decision to get sober
-Lessons on ego, humility, and living with gratitude
-Coping with criticism in a world addicted to negativity
-Finding love, loss, and humor with her late husband
-Daily practices that build confidence, peace, and self-esteem
-Why kindness is the ultimate ripple effect
If you’ve ever wondered if it’s “too late” to start, SueBell’s story is the living proof that it’s never over — and that authenticity, courage, and a smile can change everything.
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