In short
The episode argues that becoming the person you want to be (and building a top show) requires clarity, daily truthful self-accountability, serious preparation, and embracing the “messy middle” rather than waiting to feel ready. It also frames success as the “gift in the work, not the destination,” and warns against “wishing” instead of manifesting through action. Preparation is compared to high-stakes training (Navy SEAL mindset), and “curses” are treated as beliefs that can either limit you or be broken by choosing accountability and action.
Guests
No named guests appear in the transcript excerpt. The hosts reference prior interviews and guests (e.g., the Luttrells; Sarah and her book “Screw You, Watch This”; Rachel Barbo; Roman; Dan Tuffarello; Marina; Romans’ involvement; Claire; Jackie; Christina; Dr. Jason Wursland for Therabody).
Key claims
Clarity enables preparation; honesty about daily KPI/SOP deposits matters; cringe from past work proves growth; fear of sucking/judgment is normal; focus on what you can control; belief feeds outcomes (“curse” vs “not cursed”).
Notable examples
Luttrells interview and friendship; Navy SEAL preparation analogy; “messy middle” concept; Sarah’s “clean your side of the street” framing; sports “curses” (Red Sox/Babe Ruth vs Cubs); Cam Little’s record preseason kick and later continued success; social media hate and misinformation.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Journey to Success
0:00 to 0:45
Explore the mindset needed for success and the importance of taking work seriously.
“To be a top show host, do you have to pretend you are first, do the work, and become it?”
Reflecting on the Past Six Months
0:45 to 1:32
The hosts discuss their experiences and growth over the past six months.
“But when you started getting very, very specific on your goals and very real about what you need to work on is when Indivisible Progress started.”
Building a Community
1:32 to 2:19
Discussion about the importance of building a community around shared values.
“Well, I mean, first of all, I just, I going through and thinking about just me joining this and why I did it.”
The Evolution of the Podcast
2:19 to 3:26
The hosts share the evolution and milestones of their podcast journey.
“it was something that I envisioned having the closest people to me, a part of this because I wanted to build community, but I also wanted to do it around people that understood me.”
Lessons Learned Along the Way
3:26 to 5:30
Insights into the challenges faced and lessons learned during their podcasting journey.
“So I got to go by the old high school yesterday.”
The Importance of Preparation
5:30 to 6:46
Discussing the critical role of preparation in achieving success.
“So it was, it was really crazy when I started recording it, you know, in my car, I mean, the first ever episode was recorded in my guest room.”
Comparison to Navy SEAL Preparation
6:46 to 13:20
Drawing parallels between podcast preparation and the rigorous training of Navy SEALs.
“know, I put a neon sign behind me and a background and all that kind of stuff.”
The Importance of Preparation
14:10 to 16:55
Preparation is key to success and requires a serious approach akin to military standards.
“You could be a freaking underwater welder.”
Clarity and Manifestation
23:16 to 28:00
Understanding the significance of clarity in achieving goals and the role of manifestation in success.
“I said clarity, you said clear and specific, all synonymous to clarity, right?”
Manifestation Through Daily Actions
28:00 to 29:18
Learn how daily decisions and actions align with your goals for manifestation.
“Like, I just, I look at that and I'm like, maybe there's something to it.”
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The Importance of Honesty in Self-Reflection
29:18 to 31:31
Explore the necessity of being truthful with yourself about your progress and goals.
“I'm speaking from the freaking scars in the trenches.”
Navigating Life's Messy Middle
31:31 to 33:48
Understand how to embrace and grow through life's challenges and messy phases.
“And she, you know, I just love the conversation with her.”
Accountability and Overcoming Adversity
33:48 to 36:14
Discover the significance of accountability in overcoming life’s adversities and challenges.
“And there's a big part of introspective, you know, thinking that needs to take place there.”
Shifting Perspectives on Curses
36:14 to 42:00
Learn how to change your mindset regarding perceived curses and obstacles in life.
“So I, I follow me here because I'm going to get there.”
Overcoming Adversity and Resentment
42:00 to 44:29
Learn how to process negative feelings and focus on personal growth.
“To your point, when you were talking about if someone that you love bumps you a little bit, you're off course, you're three shades of white.”
Navigating Public Criticism
44:30 to 47:29
Explore how to handle public criticism and maintain a positive outlook.
“And we were like, Oh, he's the astronauts even admitting that the earth is flat, blah, blah, blah.”
Reflecting on Past Experiences
47:30 to 50:06
Reflect on significant past experiences and their impact on personal growth.
“And so, you know, I look at last year and I know you, you talked about it, but you know, we got to travel to Pennsylvania to, to be with Gronk and had a great group of people with us.”
The Impact of the Podcast
50:07 to 55:39
Discuss the profound impact the podcast has had on listeners' lives.
“And really just, I, you know, I want to know more about you, you know, as much as I know about you, there's times where we surprise each other and we learn about family members and things that we didn't know about.”
The Impact of the Show
56:00 to 56:49
Explore how the podcast influences listeners and fosters community.
“And yes, it's entertaining when we try to do as much as we can to make the show the best it can be as far as an entertainment standpoint.”
Launching the School Account
56:50 to 58:46
Learn about the upcoming school account offering free access and events.
“So for everybody listening, we're going to be launching our school account.”
Keynote Speeches and Unique Content
58:47 to 1:00:10
Discover exclusive content available in the school account, including speeches.
“Those morning thoughts I used to put on Instagram.”
Updates and Engagement Strategies
1:00:11 to 1:01:09
Get insights on newsletter sign-ups and maintaining audience engagement.
“What we do is when we bring guests on, we ask them and it started with, what was your walk up song at LSU?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00To be a top show host, do you have to pretend you are first, do the work, and become it? Wow, that's a weird one. You got where I was going with this. If you want to be successful, dress the part, act the part, and just believe that you're on your path to being that highest version, right? If you're unwilling to take something serious enough to give enough shits, then you're not doing it right. Yes, and I think the other thing is really knowing what the heck you're going after, right? The gift is in the work, not the destination. I'm going to be happy when I'll be happy when, when I get there, then I will be satisfied.
0:36If you think like that, once you get there, you're not going to be satisfied. You're not going to be happy. The reward and the true blessings are in every stage along the way. But when you started getting very, very specific on your goals and very real about what you need to work on is when Indivisible Progress started. Yeah. It's the cheat code. That's right. But it's a, it's a long route.
1:04What's up guys. We're back today with another pulse episode. My boy and business partner, Pat Sikins. We were talking yesterday and you're like, dude, it's been six months. I'm like, you're full of shit. It is not six months. Really? Yeah. Cause we were here end of July. Okay. And that's when the whole mustache started because right afterwards when Claire asked me to grow up for her birthday and kind of stuck. So yeah, it's been six months since we've flushed the format and got to talk about what's happened. And my goodness, we have a lot to cover. We do have a lot to cover. So I'll let you take it, man.
1:32Well, I mean, first of all, I just, I going through and thinking about just me joining this and why I did it. And I wanted to start by just saying, thank you, man. Oh man. You know, the opportunity to be here on the show today, just be a part of this movement, the society, what we're doing. It's incredible. And I texted you, um, over the break and I just, the ability to have you as a friend, I think there's a lot of people that would, uh, do a lot to be in my position, you know, to have you reaching out and being able to call you because you do so much on camera. So to have a personal relationship, I just think it's a, it's a special thing, man.
2:08And we've been through a lot. We have been through a very short amount of time. You trying to make me fucking cry over here, dude. Um, no, I appreciate that, man. And I'm, I'm blessed to have you as a friend too. And, you know, when I created this, it was something that I envisioned having the closest people to me, a part of this because I wanted to build community, but I also wanted to do it around people that understood me. You know, so I have you, we have Marina, you know, you know, Romans here, um, flew in and didn't tell us. Um, and then, you know, one of my best friends in the world, uh, you know, Dan Tuffarello is now working with us and, you know, to be able to have him on and everybody here, just, you know, it's so great how life comes full circle.
2:48So, you know, I'm, I'm the grateful one. And, um, you know, a lot of times I'm a little intense and it doesn't seem that way, but I, I just truly love having everybody that I, that I care about. I won't say everybody, but most of them in this company with me and pushing forward to keep me sharp and to do the best job we can for everybody watching and listening. It's, uh, talk about it full circle. I mean, being from Fort Myers, um, the ability to come back every once in a while and, uh, sit down with you and, you know, essentially my hometown. And yeah, it's, uh, it's great. And I got to tour around a little bit.
3:25I've come back a few times and haven't really had a chance. So I got to go by the old high school yesterday. That's awesome. Go Vikings. Yeah. I got to tour around with Christina and she showed me around and, uh, drove through the old, you know, the old neighborhood and things like that. and it's just, it's, it's been great, but you know, I just, I was thinking about the evolution of this show and I know we've talked about it, but you know, every single time we put an episode out, we have a new listener. So, you know, this thing has really gone from your car talking into your phone after the gym to a guest room when I found you.
3:56And we've told that story before. So you'll have to go back and watch that, but it was not an immediate, you know, Oh, we're going to be partners and things like that. But I was listening to the recap for 25 and I really want to dig deep on what's happened at some point today. But as I was listening through that, you were talking about in, you actually used in one of the clips, you said, you know, if you're new to the show, like, why is this guy talking? Because it matters. And it does because when I came to you and we started doing work and it was like, okay, you know, we've got some good guests and there's some good conversations and it's good.
4:29But when I started seeing, you know, essentially under the hood or behind the curtain and seeing the impact that this show has, because there's a lot of shows and there's a lot of gurus and there's a lot of flashy things that are entertaining, but this show has substance. And I'm not just saying that because of my position here, it's because it really does have impact. And to see the messages that you are getting of you saved my life, you saved my marriage, you know, it's, it's helping people on a very human level. And that's why the society works. That's why people are tuning in. And that's why people care about what you have to say, what the guests have to say, because it is a society.
5:04I remember we were talking to, uh, Amanda early on and it was like, well, why would you do this? It's because of the society, because of this group. So I just think it's a really special thing. And I just want to take a moment to hear from you about the evolution of it, because I've been here for two and a half years, I guess. Yeah. Two years. Um, not five. And when I know we're coming up on five, so I just want you to talk a little bit about it. Cause again, I think we do have some people that don't know the whole story. Yeah. So it was, it was really crazy when I started recording it, you know, in my car, I mean, the first ever episode was recorded in my guest room.
5:39Um, and I can remember that day. And I remember I started out like, Hey guys, this is Sean French, the determined society. I don't know if you're going to listen. I hope you do. I hope you like it, but here's the journey I'm about to go on. Here's the type of people I'm going to interview. and at the very beginning it was a very small approach it was like local people that have won state championship built big businesses and you there's many different cakes and there's many different recipes and pretty much all of them taste good right and so I felt like it was the same thing about success so I really wanted to dive into that and then you know it's noisy in my house so I started recording after the gym when I would have some type of download or some type of thought in the gym, something that fired me up, ticked me off, inspired me, didn't matter.
6:24I went and recorded. And I did that for about, you know, 15, 20 episodes, man. And then I learned I can upload video to the anchor app. And so I went to, I went to zoom and I thought everything was great. Had the shitty, um, framed poster behind me. It was like a word, word cluster of the determined society of everything that it meant. And as those interviews progressed and as, you know, I put a neon sign behind me and a background and all that kind of stuff. It's really funny because that's when I thought, I'm like, we're here. This is the greatest thing ever. But when I go back, I watch it and listen.
7:04And then I realized that we were nowhere even close and, or I wasn't anywhere close and there needed to be an up level, a step above what we were doing in the extra room. And that's when you came on and we started doing things in public venues. We started doing recordings like this. And that's when things, and there were some, you know, show flow issues at the beginning because we thought that we had to do something different and we really didn't, right? We just needed to stick to the plan and continue to grow. And so this rant about where the show started and where we're at now, it's rewarding to go back and, and look at it and cringe a little bit because I can now say like, I wasn't ready.
7:50I wasn't there. Right. And, and there needed to be more work done. And that's the message I want to send to the audience. You can look at things right now for where you're at and think that you have arrived, but if people aren't picking up what you're putting down, there's probably a reason. right and so i had to go on this big growth you know journey of myself you know mentally physically and everything like that and then all of a sudden i started looking like the brand and that's when everything kind of catapulted at you know towards you know the the first quarter right around the you know q1 of 2025 and it hasn't slowed down since because we're putting more impactful things out there.
8:32We're helping more people because I didn't, and we didn't stop putting out the messages that we wanted to. So, you know, the journey of the show has been beautiful and painful at the same time. Um, but it's, it's been rewarding, man. Well, I think you hit on something there. You know, if you're doing anything that means something to you, that's important to you. If you're not looking back over the short term and long term and feeling that cringe, then you're not doing it right. Yeah. Because if you look and you go, yeah, it's, it's about where I am. Then you're not moving forward. You're not growing.
9:08I look back at this stuff, you know, even a few months ago that we did it, like, look at the first pulse, you know, it's just, there has to be that evolution. And I think if you're not embarrassed by your previous work, then you're probably not moving fast. Yeah. And that's the other thing too, that I really want the audience to, to think about. it's like you don't need everything to start too many people are waiting to have everything that they need at their disposal to start a podcast or to if I had a dollar every time someone said like hey I'm gonna start a show this year but I don't know how to do it and I would have a lot of dollars dude and the big theme behind people that aren't pulling the trigger is because they're really, I think it's fear and they're not taking the control of the situation.
10:05They're not taking the bull by the horn, so to speak, and be like, all right, I'm going to do this. And whatever happens, happens. And you have to be open to the fact that you're going to suck at something for a very long time and you're going to be judged and people are going to delete you from social media. And it happened to me. I mean, People made fun of me all the time. I don't think they are anymore, but if they are, they are. It is what it is, but you have to go through those evolutions, those steps. And it's great for the audience to see that too. That was my point of all of this is the audience, the public has gotten to experience every level up.
10:47And so for me, that's a blessing because it shows process. It shows strategy. It shows discipline and determination. whereas if we would have just started with this where's where's the fucking fun in that it's a good point it's a very good point and you look at it and you can think of every excuse and a lot of times people say i don't have the thing right and a lot of times it's tech it's the skills to do the thing and when i talk to clients about that on the marketing side of things they always like oh we tried social media it doesn't work i'm like look you know when charles barkley goes out and plays golf, he's not blaming the clubs because he plays like crap.
11:22He knows he's a crap player, but he still loves it. Right. So it's not necessarily, or not always going to be this stuff around you, right. It's, Oh, if we only have better mics or better cameras, or, you know, if we could get to wherever it's, it's what we've talked about a lot on this show is you focus on what you can focus on. Right. Because there's just so much that's out of control. And like, even, you know, specifically here, you know, we wanted to be at an event or we wanted to get a guest or whatever it was or even comparisons you know us looking at other shows going what the heck why are we not doing that and so i think it's about looking at those things and going you know what what did we do we focus on the one thing we could do which was making the show the best we could yeah man and then we added the tech and we added the lights and we got better and better but to your point going all the way back to this it was you getting yourself right and then it was focusing on being the best you could on camera.
12:16Yeah, man. It's my happy place. That's for sure. Well, and I think it's preparation, right? Like I know so many people and that's why I love this show is them being able to see what actually goes into this. And there's a few that I definitely want to talk about. Um, and we'll start with the Luttrells and so we'll, we'll talk all about that. But as I was listening to that, they were talking about preparation and I can't remember which one was talking cause I was listening to it, but they were talking about the preparation that goes in being a Navy SEAL and going into a situation where the probability of you failing is pretty high.
12:50I mean, you think about that, like people are scared and you talked about this many times recently about, oh, you're scared to make a sales call. You're scared to start your podcast. It's preparation. And what you're scared of is not necessarily that scary. Like if you put it into, you know, comparing to what Navy SEALs are getting ready to walk into. And so I just thought that was such an incredible statement from them to talk about preparation of things are probably going to go really bad and really poorly, but they talk about their preparation and knowing that they've done everything they can.
13:25And so, no, I'm not comparing you to a Navy SEAL, but I'm saying the preparation that goes into these interviews to make sure that, you know, it's not just by happenstance that these things are happening. So I just talk a little bit about that specifically. And then I want to talk about just that experience overall. Well, as it pertains to the Luttrells, that was an amazing interview and they become friends. And, you know, thank you to Roman for having us out there in order to have that opportunity to sit and have community with them for three days. I watched college football with the Luttrells.
13:57That was a freaking highlight, man. And, you know, as it pertains to preparation of what Navy SEALs do or what anybody does, you could be a teacher or what, it doesn't matter what you are. You could be a freaking underwater welder. If you are not prepared, you are going to fail. And so I truly believe that I approach preparation here or anything that I do, whether it's in the gym or my nutrition, like one of a Navy SEAL. there's no negotiation right and too many people leave outs for themselves as it pertains to preparation well if i get to this today cool if i don't i don't no no no that's not the answer you have to be so dialed in and ready to prepare to do whatever it takes to be great and to make an impact so while i'm not a navy seal and i know and let me clarify for the audience i know prepping for a show is not the same thing as preparation for an operation in, you know, overseas.
15:02I get that, but I take it that serious. And if you're unwilling to take something serious enough to give enough shits to really dial in and, and put your best product out there, then you're not doing it right. Preparation is all about effort, dude. That's, that's it. Yes. And I think the other thing is really knowing what the heck you're going after. Right. So if we're going to keep using this example, like they know exactly what the objective and mission is, right. You know, what you want clarity. And remember we talked about it up front. It was like, we want to be the best show. Well, what the heck does that mean?
15:39You know, it's about really being specific on the goal. And so I think a lot of people that, you know, we talked to that are having struggles, issues, whatever it is, they're like, I'm doing all this stuff. They don't really know what the mission is. Like they're not super clear on it. And I think that to me was the biggest term for you is when you got very, very specific on what winning was because everyone wants to win. Everyone wants to do the best they can, but it's so, it's just so all over the place. Like even I think about financials, right? Like we've talked about, you know, people, I want to make a lot of money.
16:13That is such a subjective thing. Like what is a lot of money? like between you and me i'm sure it's very very different like we talked about fuck you money right and i've even seen different definitions of that yeah like i saw one was like it's just six months reserves like if you have that you have fuck you money you could walk away and i'm going well no no that's kind of the baseline for me like i always want to have that because world war three could start you know it's like who knows and so i just look at that and i go it's really about having that specific so well is that is that and i'm and i'm putting i guess i'm i I guess, projecting a little bit on you.
16:49But to me, it seemed like when you got specific is when things started turning around. Hey guys, we're going to take a quick break and we're going to slide into our recovery segment brought to you by Therabody. What an amazing technology that Therabody has. And it was founded on a really cool story by Dr. Jason Wursland. It was founded on pain. He got into an accident and had this extreme pain in his arm and found that percussive therapy really helped. So he created the very first version of the Theragun with the Makita drill, just to pilot and test to see if his pain could be relieved by percussive therapy overall.
17:30And surely it was. So now birth to the Theragun and now Therabody, who has a multitude of products to help you recover emotionally and physically. And some of the products even help with stress, meditation, and better sleep, and just overall better wellness. And when I had Dr. J on the show earlier in 2025, it really spoke to me because his platform was founded out of physical pain, and the Determined Society was founded out of emotional pain. And so it felt natural for us to partner up. So here we are, an official partnership with Therabody. And I want to talk to you about some of the products today that I've been enjoying that I think you need to understand and know more about so you could potentially implement them into your life.
18:21And I'm not going to get into a big deep dive of the actual science and everything like that. I'm just going to give you some anecdotal information based on the products that I'm using and that my wife is actually using too that is helping us out a great deal at home. Because the great thing about these products, guys, is you can use them anywhere. You can use them in the gym. You can use them at home, in your bed, in your living room. Hell, you can even drive with a TheraGun Pro Plus in your car and use it on your quads, use it on your arms, whatever that is. The first thing I want to talk about is the TheraGun Pro Plus.
18:55I bring that in my gym bag every day to the gym. And when I'm warming up, I use it to warm up. I put it on my arms, whatever body part I'm using that day. I activate those muscles. And what I find is I'm able to move my body a lot quicker. and I'm a lot stronger on those days that I do actually bring it and utilize it. I just think it's a great way to understand your body and the connection between your strength and your muscles and being warm and being able to perform because it's one thing to go work out, but it's another thing to perform while you're doing it. And the Theragun Pro Plus helps me do that.
19:31Another thing that I really truly enjoy is the Jet Boots Pro Plus. These things are wire-free. There's no hassle. There's no cords. There's infrared LED light. There's that compression therapy. And I've been having bad pains in my ankles, both of them actually, for about a year. And I don't understand where it's coming from. But when I started using the boots religiously after a leg day or after a cardio session, I throw those boots on and I find myself a lot looser afterwards. I find myself lighter. And then the next day, there's no pain in my lower extremity, like my feet. The other thing that I really enjoy is that product really helps me recover a lot quicker.
20:17And let's face it, that's the most important thing when we're trying to move our bodies or we're trying to succeed in life is we want quick recovery emotionally and physically. And these products help me do that. And it can help you do that as well. One of the other things that I really want to go into because it's helping my wife out a ton with headaches and being able to distract from the noise in her mind. And honestly, it helps me with that too, is a smart goggles. Whenever we feel a slight headache coming on or things are getting really heavy, just in our minds, just thinking about all the stressors, all the things out there that we can't control, we throw the goggles on, get in a quiet place.
20:59And there's different cycles on there and different intensities of vibrations and massaging that you can either turn it up or turn it down. And what I really enjoy is it allows me to focus on what's going on with just me and I think about things. And the massaging with the smart goggles relieves either headaches and it relaxes me and relaxes my wife to a point where we can fall asleep better. We are preparing to kind of downshift and shut down and slow down for the evening. So I heavily recommend them. The other thing it's really good for is just creating a peaceful time in your day. And what I found since using the smart goggles and then the other products is it works for me, it works for my family, and I know it can work for you too.
21:51So I want you guys to think about things that you are struggling with. If it's lower back pain or you wake up in the morning, your neck is tight. I'm going to tell you the Theragun Pro Plus will help that out. They have cold therapy on it, hot therapy. I mean, think about that. When I opened that box and realized that I could have heat therapy and cold therapy and a Theragun changed everything for me and also really made the thing that I hate doing the most is warm up, made that very easy for me just by applying it to the muscle group that I'm going to use before I do it. and in between sets, which promotes quicker recovery between sets.
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23:15I mentioned it and you said it, I think once or twice, I said clarity, you said clear and specific, all synonymous to clarity, right? If you do not have clarity, you cannot prepare. If you don't have clarity in the direction that you want to go, you cannot get there because it's like putting Google maps on when you're going on a road trip. Don't use Apple around Naples. Don't use Apple around Naples. It's terrible. You gotta use Google maps. You'll use a turn. Yeah. U-turns everywhere. Yeah. U-turns. Yeah. Siri does that just to fuck with you, I think. um but you punch in a starting point and you punch in an end point and then it gives you a plan and you follow it and you get there you don't question it you get there i mean back in the day used to question it right with the tom-toms they were terrible right but now you know where you're going there's a plan laid out for you know where to turn right you know what the speed limit is you know if there's a crash you know alternate routes for a speedier arrival right it's following a plan, but you're clear on where you're going.
24:18That's my point. You're, you're clear on the end destination. If you cannot get clear there, you cannot reverse engineer how to get there. And the other part is even when you are clear and you have the plan, you can't always think about this. Everybody thinks about getting here and I'm going to be happy when I'll be happy when, when I get there, then I will be satisfied. If you think like that, Once you get there, you're not going to be satisfied. You're not going to be happy. The reward and the true blessings are in every stage along the way. And as long as you're focused and strategic in those moments and don't come off of your standard of doing something every day to move you forward, you will never get there.
25:01But I want to be very clear. And I've said this a lot, but for the new listeners, the gift is in the work, not the destination.
25:13this reminds me of something and I want to get your take on it. I saw it on the internet. So it has to be true. Of course. Um, it was something along the lines of, and I'm going to paraphrase. I don't remember exactly, but it said in order to fall asleep, you have to pretend to fall asleep and that's how everything works. And I went, huh? Wow. That's a, that's a weird one. So if you think about it, right, you're not just sitting there and all of a sudden, I mean, most times you don't just let you're narcoleptic or, you know, just really touch. I might have a touch. It's fine. But you have to play the part.
25:45You have to get ready, go through your process and then pretend you're asleep to actually go to sleep. It's interesting, dude. And so when I thought about that, I was like, well, it does. And it said, that's how everything works basically. So to be a top show host, do you have to pretend you are first do the work and become it? so for me it's not pretending and right right for me it's not i think that that is a good distinction yeah i think for me it's about being the best that i can be and when i get to a certain point where i think i'm at a ceiling okay what can i do to get better right in order to be the top show and and for everybody listening for me being a top the the show is where people come to to feel fulfilled and, and, and feel better after listening and have some type of tool and strategy to apply to their life.
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26:37You know, but I think the big thing that you're talking about and, and, and the theme that I'm hearing when you say you got to pretend to be asleep before you can be asleep is manifestation. I really truly believe in manifestation. You have to be able to not just see it on the movie screen in your mind. When you close your eyes, you get, you better be able to see where you're going. but the other end of it is you have to feel it physically and too many people leave that step out they think oh lamborghini shows up in my driveway that's not the law of attraction law of attraction is seeing it feeling it and doing the work to get there you got where i was going with this i did so the point is i think the difference is maybe there's two types of people those who wish right because i think a lot of people wish for success wish for money wish for the relationship or wish for whatever.
27:24And manifestation is a very hard thing to me. It's kind of like meditating, right? Like when I first started really going on my journey of self-improvement, I was like meditating. I'm like, how the heck just, it's hard to stop thinking or, you know, whatever. And so I've heard manifestation a lot. Right. And, and I agree. It's, I think there's the wishing, the hoping, and there's truly manifesting, like putting, you know, whatever you believe in as far as prayers, energy, whatever into it. But the sleep thing to me kind of hit on manifestation. It's like, you believe that you're tired. You go through the process.
27:58You dress the part, right? You put yourself in the position. You dress to go to bed. I sleep naked. I do. I don't. Shorts, shorts people. Yeah. But you know what I'm saying? Like, I just, I look at that and I'm like, maybe there's something to it. And I thought it was a way to explain manifestation maybe for dummies is like, Like you dress the part, you get in bed and then you sleep. So if you want to be successful, dress the part, act the part, believe you are, and just believe that you're on your path to being that highest version. Right. Yeah. And part of that too, is you have to be honest with yourself every evening or every morning, every decision you make.
28:35Is this moving me towards my goal? Did I say I was going to get up and work out? Did I say I was going to eat clean today? Did I say I was going to play with my kids today? And if you said you were and you don't, that's a, that's a withdrawal from the account, dude. Like that's not a deposit and you got to reevaluate that every single day, you know, because part of the whole thing, the biggest part of the whole thing is simply that. Are you hitting the objectives and the tasks or SOPs that you need to KPIs, whatever the hell you want to call it that day to make yourself better. And, you know, if the answer is no, well, then you got to have a conversation.
29:10Don't shame yourself. There's plenty of days where I go, yeah, that wasn't it. That wasn't it. Like I'm not speaking from a soapbox. I'm speaking from the freaking scars in the trenches. I go through this, right? And you know, sometimes it's unavoidable because you'll go to bed at night and you're like, yeah, I think I did everything. I could have done this. Just take a mental note of it, right? Don't beat yourself up. Get some good sleep next morning. Hit that. Like do it. That's a massive part of manifestation that people heavily overlook. It's like, you have to be able and you have to be willing and available to do whatever you can every single day.
29:48Yes. And I, the biggest point in there was being honest with yourself, right? We talk about the one thing and we we've talked that personally, right? Like we're doing all things, but really we need to handle the one thing. And so when I look at that, it's really about being truthful, right? Because you can be doing all the right things morally, ethically, you know, professionally, whatever it is like, Hey, I'm going to the gym, uh, but I'm, I'm neglecting whatever, you know? Yeah. I'm, I'm at home all the time, but I'm not really present. Right. So to me, when I was listening to Sarah's interview and, um, I forget the name of the, the, the title of the actual pod, but her book, screw you, watch this.
30:32when she was talking about that, it was about really being truthful with yourself. Right. So to your point of like sitting down, it's not like, Oh, I could, you know, done the dishes. Like, no, what, what did I really screw up on today? And again, not being yourself up, but like, if you want to move forward, being honest with yourself and running toward the problem back to the Lutrells, they talked about running into the situation. And so I thought in that interview with Sarah about screw you watch this, when she was talking about really being honest with yourself, because to go get, you know, play with a chip on your shoulder, which we've talked about and, you know, have success and do the social media posts and all that.
31:08That's great. And yes, you can get revenge that way, but that's not what she's talking about. I think people could take that the wrong way and say, well, if I just post a bunch of stuff, then, you know, my ex is going to be pissed. That's not what she's talking about. She's talking about getting your house, your side of the street clean first and really addressing whatever the problem is, then setting your world on fire. 1 ,000%. Great woman, man. That was a great interview. She was fun, dude. She was awesome. That was a great interview. And she was grateful. And she, you know, I just love the conversation with her.
31:40She was a great guest. I look at myself and I look at you and everything we just talked about, I think is very true, right? Because, you know, when I first came to you, we're doing all the right things. We've got the, you know, the guests and the show and all that. But when you started getting very, very specific on your goals and very real about what you needed to work on is when the visible progress started. Yeah. Yeah. Long way to go. But that's true. That is very, very true, man. Clarity, man. It's the cheat code. That's right. But it's a long route. It's a long route. Rachel and I talked about this on my show.
32:21I'm two types of people. uh, Rachel Barbo, who's one of our affiliates, friend of the show, uh, who's been on the show and she talked about the messy middle and that's, that's her term. And I think so many people want to hide that, right? Because, you know, you don't want to show weakness, vulnerability, you don't want to post, you know, messy stuff. But I think so many people are in that right now, especially economically, politically, whatever, whatever issue you got going on, it's that messy middle, you know? I think everybody in one area of their life is constantly in a messy middle. And then you fix that.
32:58And then something else happens because as you grow, you know, we always say new level, new devil, right? There's going to be multiple messy middles and it's never, it's an evolution that never stops. It's like, you need that resistance to get stronger in order to be a stronger human being you need the messy middle you you need the you need the other side right you need to see pain to feel pleasure you need the darkness to appreciate the light you know dr j said dr jason wersland like when it's the darkest you can see the bright light man it's right there you just got to walk towards it you know what i mean like within the absence of dark there's no light every interview that you've had everyone that i've interviewed for my book i mean it's just every successful person that is within the society as a whole has issues they've been through just some absolutely terrible, horrible things.
34:05I mean, some unspeakable, unimaginable, yet they got through it, you know, and I just, and you know, I'm not in the greatest season right now, you know, and I keep trying to remind myself that it's going to pass, you know, the good, I've been through some amazing highs in my life and they've gone away and some really low lows, you know and it's just that advice of this too shall pass yeah yeah we got to help ourselves in those situations but if we know these things are going to happen we shouldn't be surprised it's life yeah we're not we're not immune to this shit right like we're not immune to tragedy circumstances you know or just bad seasons we're gonna have them but we have to be ready for them We have to understand why they're there too.
34:55And there's a big part of introspective, you know, thinking that needs to take place there. Why am I going through this? What is the lesson that the universe or God is trying to teach me in this right now? What part did I play? And that's a constant thing that I go through for myself every single day is like, how did I create this? I mean, all the way down to, you know, a small argument with my wife, how did I create it? Right. And we always have a part in it. So, you know, it's an interesting question to pose. You know, some people might be thinking, well, I didn't ask for this part. Or I'm not saying you attracted, you know, a loved one, you know, losing a loved one in a car accident or anything like that.
35:41Those are massive tragedies that you can't control. But at the same time, when you look inward on the things that you can control and you find that you're not controlling to the best of your ability, that's all about awareness. That's all about extreme accountability. And if you can get in those moments for issues at work, issues in relationships, then you can fix them. Because if you don't get there, then you're looking to point the fucking finger. And that's where shit goes really bad.
36:13it's about you know we talked about it you know if you don't have that very clear vision of what you're working toward then yes you're going to get knocked around right if you don't see the island and you're getting tossed around the sea then you're going this is stupid why am i even doing this um i was smiling there because i was thinking about last time i was down we went out to dinner and we went out with your family and we were talking to Jackie about curses. Okay. So I, I follow me here because I'm going to get there. But as I look at what we're talking about and getting through hard seasons and, you know, there's plenty of triumph stories.
36:50And again, that's what makes it great. You know, if someone came in here like, well, I was, you know, an all-star and then never lost a game and, you know, have struck out everyone I've ever, you know, faced. That's not a story. No, it's a story, but it's not, there's no triumph. And I think that's the human condition. And so when we were talking about curses at dinner, we were talking about them because Jackie is not as big of a sports fan as us. So we were talking about the baseball ones, you know, 86 years with the Red Sox, 108 with the Cubs. And we were talking about curses. And what I, where I'm bringing that is it's about getting past that season.
37:26And the curse wasn't real. You know, a goat did not cause the Cubs to not win the world series for 108 years. Babe Ruth. okay babe ruth probably caused the red sox to not win for 86 years as a red sox fan that's that's true all the other ones are not true selective reasoning exactly but curses are not you know it's not real it's just about well it's this thing that's hanging over your head it's this thing that's there and the only way to get out of it is you yeah and in in their in their curses for a reason right it starts off as art of the boston red sox curse they let the best baseball player arguably ever old time, right?
38:04Babe Ruth traded him to the Yankees. They're cursed. It's a curse if you believe it. And that's the big thing about believing in something. What is it you believe in? Is it feeding you or bleeding you? And believing that you're a part of a curse that's not going to allow you to win or, oh, this happens to me all the time. Well, cool. You know, the universe is like, your wish is my command. Here's some more of that shit. Because that's what you're attracting you're on that low vibration like you're going to get that kind of stuff right but if you don't believe if you don't like i'm not cursed like this is on me i got this if you're on the cover of madden yeah right the madden curse yeah yeah there's just so many examples and then front of the show cam little i was worried about this so we've got two jags we need to give a shout out to they i was hoping to come on today and be all excited where my But I mean, my goodness, AFC champions, AFC South champions, you know, Liam Cohen taking his team for the first year.
39:07We've got first team all pro Ross Matzik for front of the team or front of the show. And then Cam Little, also a friend of the show. And where I'm going with Cam is Cam hits a 70 yarder in preseason. So asterisk longest ever preseason. It's a 68 and a 65 yarder. Okay. After his 70 yarder this season, he missed one. I don't know if it was the kick after, but it was the game after whatever. And it was right after we met him, me and my kids, and he missed it. And I'm thinking, oh my God, this could be a curse. You hit the longest and then you fizzle out. And there's plenty of kickers who've done that, right?
39:40And plenty, you know, the Chuck Knoblox and Yips and all that stuff. The Knoblox thing. But what it can do, it came back and he hit two more record-breaking kicks this season. I do can, that guy's got a boob, bro. That's right. But I looked at this and went, he could have gone, oh my God, I hit my peak. I hit the, I hit the pinnacle. I'm in the hall of fame and now I can't kick it again. I can't hit that. Yeah. And so to me, it's this whole thing, bringing it all together is you can feel cursed and you can believe it and it's going to last for 108 years if you want it, if you wanted to, or you can get back on the horse like Camden and say, okay, it's just another kick.
40:20Yeah. I mean, that guy's so high level. I mean, he barely, I don't even think he missed in high school. From what, from what I looked, he's, he was perfect in high school, missed a few in college. I think he hit a 70 in college too. At Arkansas? At Arkansas. Wow. We'll have to ask him about that one. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, so he's doing all these things, but it's like, you could have just fizzled out and had this curse and then it would have been a thing. And then the next guy, and then the next guy. Instead, he just went, you know what? It's all about preparation. Yeah. It's about running towards your problems.
40:53And I'm sure he did some mental work and, you know, got it dialed in, but the same thing. And, and I, I am very guilty of that. Like when I get knocked off, boy, especially people around me that I love, you know, me, if I'm on a path and someone just taps me a little bit to the side, I'm done. We gotta work on that. So, so how do you do that? I mean, I, I really do have a hard time with that. It's like, I know I'm doing the right things. I know pretty clearly what I want to get accomplished, but if someone that I care about or I care about their opinion knocks me, man, you know, I'm three trails away now trying to find my way back.
41:28I mean, for me, I do feel it. I don't run from the feelings. I don't run from the disappointment. You know, it depends who it is, right? If it's my wife or someone very, very close to me, I'll communicate it. But at the same time, when I'm, when someone makes that effort to kind of throw me off, I look for the truth in it, right? Like, okay, if that, if, if someone said that wasn't my best show, let me find the truth in it and let me find where I went wrong and then I fix it, but then I don't think about it. Right. So I think there's the big thing is, is when something happens, right. To your point, when you were talking about if someone that you love bumps you a little bit, you're off course, you're three shades of white.
42:12it's okay to feel that way initially but i think the key for the listener and even you because this is your situation is just going okay if i keep thinking about it like this how is it helping me and trying to get away from the unjust part of it because that's the key if someone feels slighted or what's happening is unjust to them and is not right as far as, you know, integrity or loyalty or whatever, people sit there in that moment and stew over it a lot. And what I've learned to do is look at it and go, okay, fuck it. Like it is what it is. Like I can't keep thinking about this because we're always going to disappoint people, right?
43:01We're always not going to be enough for somebody and it's hard when it's a loved one, but it's also hard when it's the public, right? Because everything's exposed depending on what you do. Like for my sense, like it's all exposed. I'm, I'm exposed for everybody to make their comments and, and their frustrations and whatever. But man, long-winded answer. And, but the most important part of it is
43:32realizing and acknowledging who you want to be. And if someone can sit there in that moment and feeling that the way that they're feeling, you know, negatively and, and slighted or, you know, unloved if they focus on that and they choose to sit in that, that's where the problems occur because it, It, it creates more resentment. It creates so many other things. So for me, honestly, dude, I feel it. I worked through it for a day or two, depending on how serious it is. And then it's gone because I'm so focused on what I have to do every single day to feel good and be good. I like that. You know, it's, it's about focusing again on the things that you can control and, you it's a loved one or some yahoo in the comments on whatever platform you can't let it bother you because someone can talk about a guest or whatever it's like they they have no idea and rome and i were talking about it at dinner last night it's like if you're going to come in the comments and talk about the lone survivor you better have some actual information and some credibility to back it up or like when i interviewed an astronaut people were all we we did a flat earth he was talking about you know all the research and r d into space and i was like so you know bob at this point when when are we going to know if the earth is flying?
44:56People went nuts, of course. And we were like, Oh, he's the astronauts even admitting that the earth is flat, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, go to work. It's so funny. Like go to work. Lulu trail one.
45:14It blows me away how much hate he got. But the thing that's really funny to me is people on social media, especially tech talk. they don't know how to feel context or understand it i field an answer probably at least five or six comments a day on the fasting reel for for the lutrells and the ones like wives question mark i'm like yes wives i interviewed two people each of them have a wife they are plural of wife right is wives they are twins their wives are besties the wives were out of town it's like holy shit listen to the whole thing to the company you can't see that there's two people there but it's like so many people want to be heard and the only way for them to feel that they can be heard is if they insult and i just don't think that's the thing but yeah dude like people hop in on comments and and find their angle like oh let me be a dick here right let me let me be a dick here but it is what it is kind of thought about but you know it these are we talked about leveling up these are the problems that you asked for that we've asked for exactly we want the public in there and we want to hear you know if it's not good that's great but we're also not going to play into you know comments that have no meaning or whatever absolutely not i mean these are the things and to your point you know the whatever you however you said it but the more that we do, the more that you're going to expose yourself and all of us to comments, whatever, but it's what we ask for.
46:55And these are the problems that we ask for. And yes, they get bigger and harder and more expensive, but it's what we ask for. And you know, I, what I love about it is we always start with positivity and we always start with trying to trying to celebrate the wins because it is going so fast. And that's why I wanted to do this flush to flush the format type show anyways, just to kind of let you not relax, but just to have you be a little bit more of the subject matter and just talk about all the things that are going on around here because it is so fast. And if we don't stop to appreciate it, all we're going to do is look back and go, oh, that was cringe, you know, six years ago.
47:31Yeah. And so, you know, I look at last year and I know you, you talked about it, but you know, we got to travel to Pennsylvania to, to be with Gronk and had a great group of people with us. We've been to LA during the riots and had those interviews. I mean, you know, trips that really were not easy to make happen for anyone. They still happened. We had some amazing, I mean, when we got started to say Gronk and Kathy Ireland and Grant Cardone and whoever else that we had on, we'd be kicking ourselves, you know. And at some points we did get, oh my God, we got to travel. We got to do this. The riots are happening.
48:10but you know, it all worked out. Yeah. Yeah. It was, that was an amazing trip, dude. We got to do some pretty cool things, man. Like I look back and look at 2025 and like, wow, we did that. Like that was an amazing experience sitting down in Jay Leno's garage. That was unreal. That was, and that was a hard interview for me, but not in a bad way. It was just sitting there. It's Jay Leno. But to look back on that and be like, we had that, we had that benchmark and there were so many benchmarks in 2025 and 2026, dude, like it's it, I thought 2025 was a demanding schedule. 2026 is going to be that much more intense.
48:58You want to talk a little bit about what you got coming up in 2026? I know we've got some travel coming up? Yeah, I got some, I mean, you know, some TV, you know, New York, Billboard and Times Square. Then we go to DC and then Chicago. That's all in a three day trip. Then back Tampa for like two or three TV segments in one day. So we're starting to get more, you know, network TV, which I think is very big for visibility. I mean, I don't think I know it's going to really help us reach more people with the whole goal of bringing them to the show so they can be fulfilled and you know hopefully it makes them feel a little better and they can listen to something that has some positivity to it and and some substance because there's a lot of shit out there that is just surface level stuff and we don't roll that way here so you know we have a lot of you know great trips um that you've outlined um you know i don't know if i want to talk about those because But they're exciting and they're, and they're big and they're, they're, they're the holy shit.
50:02They are. And the other thing I really like about them is continuing to tell your story, you know, because yes, this is the Determined Society with Sean French, but it is a guest driven show, interview show. So what we've done is very intentional, not only to have some very impactful conversations with some very well-known celebrities, but to really get you back into not just, you know, back on the West Coast, but in your element in a few different ways. And really just, I, you know, I want to know more about you, you know, as much as I know about you, there's times where we surprise each other and we learn about family members and things that we didn't know about.
50:41So, um, 26 really is going to be something special. I think, um, based on the plans that we have laid down, um, the impact that we're trying to have. And that's one thing I did want to ask you is, you know, when you look at 2025 and you look at the success of, you know, almost 9 million downloads or down 9 million listens, um, the guests that we have, the trips that we went on, the, just all the things, right. I always circle back to impact. And I talked about this multiple times today so far. And that's why I got involved with this. So, um, this is actually Roman's question. So we have only one AMA cause we didn't get around to it today or around to it this time, which we will do next time.
51:24I do want to throw out AMA. So if you're watching this now, next month, uh, you'll have the ability to ask us some questions and we'll, we'll try to feel some of those. Ask away too. Yeah, please do. We tried it once and it didn't go well. So you guys need to pick your shit up, man. Well, we'll put it on the social medias and, uh, People can respond to me that way they can stay out of your inbox. But so the question is of everything that we did in 2025. And I want to frame it because, you know, again, I said it earlier, but people talking about the impact that the show has had on their lives. And there were times in 2025, Sean, where I could not listen to our show.
51:57I was in such a bad place where I was just like, I don't want to hear my bestie over there telling me about all this stuff I know I should be doing and feeling all positive and all smiley because I just couldn't do it. And then there were times where I didn't want to listen. I would listen and I would get a nugget and I go, damn it. Damn it, Sean. Damn it, Sean. Okay, fine. This show really does create impact and there's nuggets, you know, whether you like the guests or not, if you absolutely don't like the guests, you don't have to listen. But just every time it's not about taking the whole thing and flipping your life upside down.
52:27It's about just taking one thing going, you know what? Let me try that. Today, I'm going to try that thing. So for you, I know there's a lot and you can take a minute to think about this. What was the number one most impactful story that you have from 2025? Meaning someone reached out and they said, hey, I heard this. I saw this. you know a clip on social whatever it was and this happened because of the show that is a hard one man um
53:04you know there was a gentleman that reached out and it was crazy because he didn't he wasn't following me and he reached out on instagram and said hey i just want to let you know that I've been listening to your show and I love it. It's really helping me in my journey with brain cancer. And I listened to the show. I listened to the stories and it helps me get into a more positive mindset and just understand that I'm going through this and I'm, and I'm going to win. I'm going to fight my ass off. And there's no, there's no reason why I can't stay positive and fight. I think that right there, I mean, that's someone's life.
53:48That's someone's dad. That's someone's husband, someone's child. And so when you have people that reach out and go, this is helping me, that for me means everything, dude. Like that for me means everything. I had another one. It was a very personal one. I grew up obviously in California and one of my teammates, Mike Davey, had two sisters or has two sisters. and one of them, uh, Nicole, hi, Nicole, Cole Davey, um, reached out to me one day and, you know, started like commenting on the clips and everything. And, um, sent me a message like, Hey, I'm going through some stuff right now. I'm not going to share details obviously, cause it's her story, but I utilize your show to fall asleep at night.
54:43I was floored. I was actually in Mississippi heading from the airport to Wing Ranch when that DM came through. And those types of stories make me feel so good because it's enriching someone's life. That's the impact. Those two stories, and there are many more, but those two I think about often when I feel like I don't want to today or I don't want to adult today. I put an extreme amount of responsibility on my back and my shoulders to carry people. Like if I don't put this out, if I'm not fresh for this interview, then that person and that person and the person over there, they're not going to get the value that they need today.
55:33So I just, I put it all on me. I put it all on me, man. You know, it's heavy, but it's worth it, dude. And those are the two stories that I think that made the most impact for me. Thank you. Yeah. Because, you know, again, it's, we, we get so caught up in the day to day of booking guests and getting content out and all that. So, you know, and we talk about it in our team meetings a lot, but I just, I wanted the society to hear it of, you know, taking this stuff and it is important. And yes, it's entertaining when we try to do as much as we can to make the show the best it can be as far as an entertainment standpoint.
56:08but there's some really impactful stuff that's happening. And, you know, the fact that it is impacting people's lives and changing lives and making people better. Um, you know, I, we see it a lot, but I, for me, it has helped me, you know, and to be around this group of, um, just some of the best people that I know that can push me and help me kind of stay straight sometimes when things are spinning out. Um, you know, so the fact that people get to tune in and learn from you twice a week is pretty awesome. And we just, we have so many things going on. I just, that's kind of the way I wanted to close is just kind of recapping the fact that, you know, we do have a newsletter.
56:49We've got the website, we've got the playlist, the frequency. We got to kick that back up. We've got the school account too. And we have the school accounts. You want to talk about that real quick? Yeah. I'm excited about this one. So for everybody listening, we're going to be launching our school account. And, you know, we're going to be making a major push for the free access. So if you're listening, you know, pretty soon you'll have free access to the school community, right? The cool thing about the school community is I'm doing a determination summit for five straight days at 7 p.m. Eastern.
57:23So whoever goes into that community is automatically going to be able to be enrolled and get a calendar invite for the determination summit. And they're going to have the opportunity to listen to me, to listen to Brandon Burns, potentially you or another speaker on how to build determination in their lives. And, and, and so for the most, there's going to be three levels of it, man. There's going to be a free version and a paid version, and there's going to be a mastermind option, right? If people want more, they want to hop on group calls. That is going to be there. and excuse me we've been needing to do this for a while we found the right guy to help us build it and we're about to launch it very very soon there's behind the scenes stuff in there that nobody else has seen and i'm not talking about behind bts from the show there might be some mixed in there but what these people are going to find in there is two things that are really cool right now.
58:24They're going to find all my keynote speeches that people paid me thousands of dollars to, to perform. It's going to be in there for them to watch. And then the behind the scenes is the selfie recordings. They haven't been released anywhere. They're in a folder being ready to be uploaded to school. So when people come into that community and see these videos, the behind the scenes, those are my thoughts. Those morning thoughts I used to put on Instagram. People are asking me, why aren't you doing this? It's because I have a strategy. it's going there. I want to drive people to the school account so they can build community with each other.
59:00You know, we'll have a gamified experience in there to where we do a 14 day determination challenge and the people that complete it will get a wall of determination sticker or, you know, seal on their account and they can, there's going to be a leaderboard where they can see where they're at. You know, and they're going to be able to communicate with each other. And, you know, it's going to give them a lot of access to what we have here. And just also just my mind, like they're going to, they're going to get heavy doses of it every day. And there'll be a, you know, call for it too. I mean, everybody that's in the community hop on a group call, but so I'm really excited about that one.
59:42Got a lot of stuff coming. Yeah. So I, what I would encourage everyone is go to the determined society.com. It's got links to all of our social, all the places the show is streamed on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, you name it. It's got links to the playlist. You know, go out to Spotify, search the frequency. Sean's picture is right there. It's got the thumbnail for the show. Follow it if you want. You know, that's probably the best. So it's always there. But I told Sean, it's always sitting right at the top. But, you know, the frequency just real quick, just so people don't know. What we do is when we bring guests on, we ask them and it started with, what was your walk up song at LSU?
1:00:18and we were talking about hype songs and how music you know fuels life essentially and so everyone's got that one song that just no matter what they're doing it comes on it just gets their juices flowing gets them you know turned up to a hundred and so we've got your walk-up song and we've got you know every single guest that we've had we've asked them and we've got so many of them out there and so it's just fun as you're working out driving whatever it is to go oh man this is Jamie Kennedy's song, you know, this is Jay Leno's song. This is whoever. Um, and so for people to go out there and we're updating it on the go and, you know, I just think it's something great.
1:00:53Yeah, dude. And, and again, like I can't stress enough though, the newsletter, like sign up for the newsletter. Everything's in there. You can sign up for the newsletter right on the website. There's pop-ups, there's all that stuff. Um, but yeah, just again, the amount of content happenings, events that we have keyed up for this year, that newsletter is going to be key. If you You are a fan of Sean, fan of the show. I want to get more involved with the society. The only way you're going to know. Love it. I love it. Well, dude, thank you. That was fun, man. Another pulse. Another pulse recorded and done.
1:01:25We got to, we got to stay on a normal cadence. This is too much fun for the audience. Thank you guys so much for listening. Share this episode with someone, you know, love and trust. And just remember that ultimately in life and in your day to day, you make the decision to how you're going to operate in the face of adversity or even in the face of success. Hopefully it's with extreme accountability and that you understand that everything is placed in your life for a reason and it's for you to grow. The wins, the losses, the messy middle, everything like that. So I love you guys. Share this again with somebody that you know, love and trust.
1:02:00Sign up for the newsletter. Keep your eye out for the school account. Until next time, stay determined.
1:02:08Thank you.
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In this powerful Pulse episode of The Determined Society, host Shawn French sits down with his business partner and close friend Pat Sitkins to reflect on the evolution of the show, the power of clarity, and what it actually takes to become the person you want to be.
They discuss why most people never start, how preparation builds confidence, and why the “messy middle” is where real growth happens. Shawn breaks down the difference between wishing for success and manifesting it through daily discipline, while Pat shares what makes this community-driven movement so impactful.
Key Takeaways
-Clarity is the cheat code to real progress.
-Cringing at old work means you’re growing.
-You don’t need perfect conditions to start.
-Preparation is what separates winners from wishers.
-Manifestation only works when paired with action.
-The messy middle is where strength is built.
-Extreme accountability creates real transformation.
-Impact is the true purpose of The Determined Society.
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